>AI writes all the code
>AI draws all the art
>AI writes the entire game's story
>AI playtests the game to see if it's physically beatable
>GPUs use AI super sampling and frame generation more than actual computing
How do people look at all of this and think it's a good thing for games? Especially when AI are put in charge of creating all of the MTXs to maximize profit, too.
God I love Marine so much bros.
She's amazing.
You better be buyin her figma then
but she's a dumpy old out of shape woman
she has no place among the young vtuber stars
I love how they thought it was a good idea to hand paint the shading in the abdominal area of the 3D model and it ends up making her look like she has a fat belly.
she needs her eggs fertilized asap
every second counts
at this rate she might never experience the wonder of being a mother
she would be a terrible mother
that doesn't stop me from fucking anime mommies
>Their 3D models are so cheap that they can't make unique shaders for her leggings and bodystocking
>Just paint static shines on there
It's like I'm back in the PS2 era
That would explain why they're so full of SOUL
Because they aren't mentally retarded and understand the implications of all of those things. I also look for ward to AI operating systems which will dramatically reduce power usage while dramatically improving usability.
also AI malware that can tell what kind of OS you have and exploit the telemetry in your AI operating system.
>>AI writes all the code
oh no anyone can create a game
>>AI draws all the art
oh no it's good
>>AI writes the entire game's story
oh no it can expand beyond the generic storytelling that sells, and you can have actually infinite dialogue for infinite quests in a game you enjoy
>>AI playtests the game to see if it's physically beatable
oh no it's not buggy
>>GPUs use AI super sampling and frame generation more than actual computing
oh no it's optimized
>How do people look at all of this and think it's a good thing for games? Especially when AI are put in charge of creating all of the MTXs to maximize profit, too.
games are free
infinite dialogues for infinite quests sound cool
it would be like a real virtual world
Indeed
>>>AI draws all the art
>oh no it's good
lel
>>>AI writes the entire game's story
>oh no it can expand beyond the generic storytelling that sells
ahahahaha
>technology will never improve even though it does constantly!!!
is this the hill you'll die on? as far as pictures go AI is already dunking artists and it will all only get better.
>AI is already dunking artists
lol, it mostly looks like generic concept art
You haven't seen shit if you believe that. The majority of it is probably porn, not concept art.
>AI is already dunking artists
>AI, which objectively CANNOT DRAW, because it doesn't work that way, is dunking humans capable of drawing
Yeah nah.
>semantics seethe
I don't think that distinction matters to anyone but artfags, and don't worry the companies will still keep them around so they make stuff they can actually copyright.
I can't fucking wait for the indie renaissance in ~5 years, it'll be like the early 2000s all over again. We'll be drowning in tons of mediocre games with some genuine diamonds in the rough. Fuck just think of what the modding scene is going to go through once an easy Ai art-> texture-> model-> rig->animation pipeline is streamlined, and we're already pretty far along that right the fuck now.
Since the ai art bubble started all I see is increase traffic on my patreon, some guys even send me ai stuff as a reference for their commissions lol.
>AI draws all the art
>oh no it's good
LOOOL
>oh no anyone can create a game
I remember more than a decade ago everyone in here can't stop seething about Unity Intro in every game they saw.
Funny how Ganker always hated soulless corpos but decide to become one when there's a chance
>empowering indies is somehow bad now
>empowering indians is bad now
yes because then poos like you won't be able to help themselves from jeeting and shitposting all over a website that was just fine without you
>it's good when it's controversial and I'm allowed to be extra contrarian about it
>>ai art
>oh no it's good
christ almighty
>>AI playtests the game to see if it's physically beatable
>oh no it's not buggy
are you genuinely retarded or just an esl
>>GPUs use AI super sampling and frame generation more than actual computing
>oh no it's optimized
literally not how this works
>AI writes all the code
>oh no anyone can create a game
You're actually retarded if you don't understand why allowing any common retard who doesn't know two shits about making games to get into game development because he'll want the computer to do all the work for him
You people complain about developers being lazy and without talent then want the scene to be flooded by actual lazy shits who don't know anything
If "anyone" can make something, then its worthless.
Only garden gnomes care about money as much as you do. Stop being a soulless garden gnome.
>I talk how the game scene will be flooded by actual garbage made by common retards who would just look at you blankly if you asked what a "mesh" or "node" or "stack overflow" is because they used an AI to do all the work for them
>so this is about money huh???
I'll repeat - if "anyone" can make something, its worthless.
It's worth it to everyone making it, again you're strictly talking about money like a garden gnome. Your idea of "worthless" is meaningless if you have a soul.
Also, what I'm confused about, is how these people are even going to like, judge these games that they're apparently pressing a button to generate, and getting something completely customized to their own tastes.
I mean fuck it, let's say in under a year, someone invents a GPT system that with the push of a button, can create a whole fucking Unreal Engine game from scratch with models, animations, levels, UI, all that shit. Ok, cool.
And then what? You're just going to launch this program and play it? With randomly generated content in it? And what happens when you realize that, much like all AI shit, it's actually not what you asked for at all? Are you going to have it create a new one? Are you just going to keep generating and playtesting randomly-generated video games until you find one that somehow isn't complete shit?
And what even is the computer supposed to do? Create a complex story, characters, quests, achievements, customization, challenging enemies, bosses, locations, puzzles, and rewards? How the fuck is it going to do all of that? Unless the game made "just for you" from the computer system is fucking Pong, that shit ain't happening.
>And what happens when you realize that, much like all AI shit, it's actually not what you asked for at all?
This is fundamentally just your projection which makes your argument pretty weak.
>3D FFT or Gundam game with fun gameplay
I'll play this, yes. It'll be fun just like video games are now(sometimes).
>And what even is the computer supposed to do? Create a complex story, characters, quests, achievements, customization, challenging enemies, bosses, locations, puzzles, and rewards? How the fuck is it going to do all of that? Unless the game made "just for you" from the computer system is fucking Pong, that shit ain't happening.
Why can't it do all of this in the future when models understand what all of these things entail? Have you ever even talked to ChatGPT? Ask it to come up with ideas for any of this stuff and it will. Future GPT will be able to code it all for you. Future future GPT will do it on the fly.
i've seen these gundam images a lot on sdg and every time i can tell they're just the strike freedom
The issue is also that when you actually have knowledge and exprience with game development, you know all sorts of things that make a good game - how to properly handle hitboxes, psychics, NPC & mob behavior, what is "good level design", how to prevent bugs, glitches or sequence breaking, how to give the game good feedback, how different mechanics should work etc.
If everyone could fucking make a game just by pressing a button, gaming would be flooded by complete amateur trash because they wouldn't be able to see all the issues and just think their product is "good enough"
You can already see it even in "decent" indie games where you can see game design issues, mistakes or lack of experience in some areas - and thats with games people make from start to finish. Now imagine game development being automatic and accessible to anyone who doesn't know shit.
>you know all sorts of things that make a good game
I mean there is some intuitive things, and there's some things you learn with experience, but the truth of the matter is that most developers DON'T know how to just make things good right from the start. That's why they have to spend years working out the bugs and playtesting constantly and getting feedback from users so they can change things that don't work and add better ideas. No game is good right from the drawing board, it's a matter of refining over time.
And how the fuck is a computer even going to understand that shit? A computer knows what good movement controls feel like? A GPT algorithm is going to just somehow analyze a bunch of games and learn which control schemes or button setups or fucking animation blending is good and which is bad?
Son, please.
it's shit like this that makes me realize the market will be absolutely flooded with complete dogshit within the decade because fags like this unironically think their AI game is gonna be "the one that people like the most"
That's already the case with indie games today, but it's gonna get a lot worse once the bare minimum of using RPGMaker/Unity/Unreal is gone
>unironically think their AI game is gonna be "the one that people like the most"
They will make them for themselves. What kind of backwards ass logic are you using?
i'm sure people are generating AI novels for this exact purpose
>They will make them for themselves
>uhhhh yeah I'm gonna AI generate this whole game just for me and me only and never show anyone else ever and just keep it and so will everyone that makes AI games, it'll be fine
if you unironically think Steam or Epic or whatever potential digital market aren't going to be absolutely flooded with complete trash pumped out for a quick buck then I dunno what to tell you. It's happened before and it's literally right now with fucking Unity asset flips and bundles full of dogshit, why do you think it won't be human nature for greedy gays to bloat the hell out of any storefront they can with their half-assed game?
What point do you think you're making ? They already are flooded with shit, and every now and then there's something fun. AI will only extrapolate that while simultaneously making all of the games better.
Why are you even talking about stores you dumb goy?
>AI will only extrapolate that while simultaneously making all of the games better.
How the fuck is a computer randomly generating games supposed to make all of them better.
Explain, with words.
They aren't randomly generated. Stop being retarded and it will make sense.
>can have ai generate content on the fly according to whatever you do in the game
Basically AI gm for all of your rpg needs.
>within the decade
There's already AI CG games on steam right now. Dozens actually.
are those "games" in the room with us right now?
and how many of them are actually good or even somewhat remotely memorable
no you jacking off to them because of fat tits doesn't count as "good"
We're talking about the market being " flooded with complete dogshit" which is what I'm pointing out is literally already happening. There's not a tag for AI shit on steam yet either so you can't filter it easily.
Some of these people are pumping out half a dozen 'games' in less than a month
This is one dev btw. A few of these are before AI art became a thing. There's dozens that were after NAI got leaked.
>mostly positive reviews
What's the problem here?
I'm just pointing out that it already exists. Every thread there's some dumb gay who goes "Nobody actually is usually AI generation in games!"
Meanwhile in reality they seem to not only be making them but like you said getting positive reviews.
I know several indie devs that are trying out using voice ai in their projects too.
>you can have actually infinite dialogue for infinite quests in a game you enjoy
DOOOOD
I GET SO MUCH CONTENT
SO MUCH CONTENT TO CONSOOOOOOM
fuck off idiot
>NOOOO I DON'T WANT MORE GAMEPLAY THAT I LIKE AHHH HELP ME
What is your favorite game? You don't want more of it? More like it?
Nothing is. It's coming.
All of my favorite games are more like art pieces than mindless gameplay loops.
AI can't accurately express the human soul.
So you're a fart sniffing pseud that only plays indie shit? Answer the question you gay.
>Only indie games are good games
?
Okay I'll take this as you not even liking video games.
>oh no anyone can create a game
is this supposed to be a good thing?
Explain how it's not.
>but there will be a lot of bad games
That you can ignore.
it can do some cool things but language models are limited as fuck. it's a good assistant and it will speed up game creation, but don't expect it to completely take over. only pajeets think that.
HAG SEXO
My bros
Ok but like even in this retarded scenario where Ai writes code, makes dinner, then sucks your dick afterwards you still need people to do things, and there will naturally be a market for human-made things. AI just makes things simpler, it's helped me debug code way faster than searching through stack overflow for fifteen minutes, AI is only a good thing for productivity, if you're worried about getting replaced, take a look at reality for like 4 seconds instead of being a fearmongering gay.
Can't be worse than the current AAA market.
When can I get an AI to play the game for me and feed me all the dopamine from winning? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czY9kWNXDDI is literally me and I hate trying.
Didn't read. I just wanted to post Marine.
Marine who? Where from?
sexo
I love hags so much
>AI playtests the game to see if it's physically beatable
If you ever actually get this to work you'd have solved the halting problem
not sure what that is but there have been beta tester AIs for years now
The stress testing bots that MMOs use to figure out if they can handle player load only run a scripted set of actions before disconnecting
They don't beat anything. Human playtesters are used to gauge if something is physically possible for a person to accomplish
>2023
>OP posts vtumors to auto-discard his own opinions
Didn't read.
It can only be a good thing because the state of vidya can't get any worse.
>the state of vidya can't get any worse.
Oh ye of mighty faith
is the vtuber phase more or less popular than a year ago?
I would say the golden age of vtubers is long gone, but in terms of popular they're still going strong. Vtubers have become normalized now if that makes sense.
>I would say the golden age of vtubers is long gone
Thank fuck for that
Aren't the JPs the biggest they've ever been?
I don't follow the industry closely but subscriber number-wise, yes.
I guess but who cares. Nobody is really talking about them on a global scale.
>the golden age of vtubers is long gone
and somehow I managed to avoid it all beyond some memes, like the one that said the n word when playing gta5.
Marine is objectively the ultimate woman. Clone her and let other women go extinct.
AI has your job, you have no job, you can't afford the vidya the AI makes.
Oops, AI was a mistake.
>NOOOO THE STUPID BLUE COLLAR WORKERS WERE SUPPOSED TO GET REPLACED FIRST NOT ME NOOOO
Haha, get fucked.
I know AI is the future but AI bros make it sound like a scam.
AI is as much of a scam as NFTs and crypto, so not at all.
why are you so retarded? how is it is a scam?
AI is only making waves because it is another "minimal effort" tool.
At the moment, they are getting away with it because law and politics are always a decade behind culture, but AI has seen rapid response regarding the legality of the method. The number of lawsuits rising up to sue people for using their intellectual property as "training" are rapidly growing, and AI is very likely going to be hamstrung so hard that everyone looking for a quick buck will end up writing it off in a few years time.
The majority who have been praising it will soon write it off, the tech will continue to be used for potentially useful things, not just copypaste anime booba and swiping shitty code from github.
The fact that people are now trying to spin a narrative that you can make money and have a carreer by using AI while failing to comprehend the issue of copyright laws
You don't need copyrights to make money off of your art but.. really? They're saying selling AI art is a scam?
Pretty simple: big companies will use their own AI to generate content and pass it as totally original human content made by some nobodies that get paid for this specific role. How would we know? How would anyone stop them? Why shouldn't every company do this?
Tell me what is preventing this future:
Companies will be able to fire most of their staff and keep enough just to sell the illusion that they were capable of creating the finished product on their own. Or they will outsource most of the work to sketchy companies in east asia that will use AI for everything and this way bypass US and european laws. There is no way to realistically hold it in check. It's over. AI won.
>95% of Ubisoft employers are fired
>new AC games keep releasing
>they look and play exactly the same and no one can tell the difference
>profits skyrocket
Fuck those retarded lefty french, I would laugh so fucking hard.
If AI codes games I can finally create my dream rpg where the gameplay is fucking children (girls) and you level up by having them birth babies.
You are an otaku on a journey of having the world record in impregnating >10 year olds.
AI written code is shit, filled with obvious errors, and was basically copy-pasted from a Google search.
AI writing is bland, full of inconsistencies, and has no sense of plot. It's like all the purple prose a college student shoves into a paper to get it to 16 pages.
AI art is awful, generic, filled with errors and frequently can't even give you want you ask it to do.
AI super sampling looks like someone smeared vaseline over the entire screen. Now you will know the pain of people trying to look at pixel upscalers.
>AI playtests the game to see if it's physically beatable
lol
Do you realize how long that takes? It can take a month to train an AI to beat a single level in Super Mario Bros. You think that one is going to run through an entire Assassin's Creed length game and confirm that somebody can get to the ending?
Ultimately, AI can't do anything but produce very generic, bland, expected content. It is basically "designed by committee" but taken to the next level, and with no sense of what a person might prefer. The tech might improve a bit, but at the current level, all it will produce is generic slop. Maybe for people who are used to buying generic slop for $100 this will be fine, like the CoD players or people looking for porn. But anybody who wants any sort of content, quality, or anything of interest won't care about the product.
This is all correct for now, the idea is that it WILL eventually get better at these things and more. Practically every first world country and tech firm has their sights set on it and is going full steam ahead, we'll likely all be old men or dead before AI ever gets to the point of singularity, but the ride will still be wild.
>we'll likely all be old men or dead before AI ever gets to the point of singularity
everyone intelligent says we'll reach the point of computers being more capable than people in a few years. singularity doesn't matter that much
Everyone intelligent last century said we'd have that shit by now.
and a few years away from today affirms them as correct you impatient retard
You're only setting yourself up for disappointment, advancements and breakthroughs don't follow a neat timetable, and guesswork is not a suitable replacement for actual work in the field.
I'm not, I'm enjoying what's going on around me and I've educated myself on what's soon coming.
You live with your head up your ass. You constantly ignore the breakthroughs we've been having for the past year and don't actually know what you're talking about at all.
Just two more years!
I already won with art and voice and nothing will stop other things coming out.
You sound like a crying garden gnome who doesn't realize he's lost, you realize that right?
Not with this generation tech.
That attitude is what thought that the Virtual Boy would take over VR. What happened with the Virtual Boy? It died. Hell, Oculus is dying as we speak, but the difference between Virtual Boy and Oculus was a new level of tech. They needed the new tech to make something like the Oculus, and just waiting five years after the Virtual Boy (even if it had been a success) was not going to hit it.
Same thing here. The AI tech is obviously limited. Everybody is just running an optimization algorithm and hoping that it'll magically spit out something new. But all it's spitting out is what's to be expected: Optimized results. And when you feed such a machine a bunch of random data, it will spit out an average of what you give it: Sterilized, mild, generic fluff that the average consumer would be fine with. But nothing exciting. And this is precisely what we are seeing produced by AI - if you ignore all the results that it produces which are are just bad, which are what more time and focus will iron out.
Currently AI needs new tech, or at least a new concept, before it will move forward. It will certainly get more common, but just like the production of the Assassin's Creed: Climb Towers Again series, you're just going to see the same thing over and over as a result.
>AI ever gets to the point of singularity
AI will not hit a singularity. In part because Moore's Law has been proven incorrect, and in part because that would involve turning over the full manufacturing capacity to a computer and allowing the computer to determine what will be produced. And the current nature of CEOs is that they won't let a production plant run without seeing the guaranteed returns they expect.
>The AI tech is obviously limited.
No it isn't though. Nvidia, Google, and Microsoft see no end to gains in scaling up. That's why they've been spending countless billions on it.
Note that you have ZERO citations for any of your claims. You either read this from some shitpost or you're just pulling it right out of your ass.
Do I really need to cite that Virtual Boy failed?
Do I really need to cite that Oculus failed?
If you really need to read about Moore's Law, then here. A simple google search about the subject will lead to a lot of articles. Basically, transistors are getting down to the atomic size, and you obviously cannot have silicon transistors smaller than silicon atoms.
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/transistors-moores-law
As for the rest, anybody who has played around with these AI art generation programs, or AI writing programs, or AI code generation programs, has a good idea of what I mean. It's bland, it's generic, it lacks variety. Go listed to some of this AI voice generation and notice that it lacks emphasis and a lot of emotion as a result. This isn't some fault in the program: This is the intended result. A lot of the AIfags don't like to hear this, or are just so oblivious to everything to not even recognize, but it is pretty clear to anybody who has read a lot just how bland and poor AI writing is.
And notice that I'm not pointing out the obvious flaws that AI arts generates (which everybody knows about). I'm not pointing out the obvious problems that AI writing has. These are things which, after enough work, will likely get cleaned up. But that doesn't resolve the big problem that AI generated content has, something which you can't solve by somebody who shoves a sentence into a machine and expects a good game as a result.
>That's why they've been spending countless billions on it.
I'm not saying it won't provide profits. Being able to spit out 70GB of code that a professional can go over is a lot more efficient than having new college recruits type in 70GB of code for that purpose. You just won't be getting the kinds of results that everybody is claiming.
>Do I really need to cite that Virtual Boy failed?
>Do I really need to cite that Oculus failed?
Completely off-topic and I couldn't care less about hardware for gay nerds.
>If you really need to read about Moore's Law, then here. A simple google search about the subject will lead to a lot of articles. Basically, transistors are getting down to the atomic size, and you obviously cannot have silicon transistors smaller than silicon atoms.
And if you don't use silicon...?
>And notice that I'm not pointing out the obvious flaws that AI arts generates
But you will out yourself as a coping art cuck simp pretending he's intelligent.
>You just won't be getting the kinds of results that everybody is claiming.
You will. We already are.
>And if you don't use silicon...?
Then you are limited to the atomic structure of whatever material you are using. What, you think that a Boron semiconductor, if you could make one, would continue the doubling of hardware power every two years infinitely?
Another thing you don't seem to know about is that hardware won't have to keep increasing once we have sufficient AI systems(coming soon).
>coping art cuck simp
holy buzzword
>In part because Moore's Law has been proven incorrect
?? by who??
>Hell, Oculus is dying as we speak
There's a third headset being announced already
2 more weeks sirs
If it's enjoyable to play/experience, who cares if it was made by a human or AI? I don't give a shit if a good game is made by Dave Johnson, Masurai Aniki, or Inesh Bhanabi as long as it's fun to play.
>AI begins to play games
>AI designs games for games
>AI gets jobs in order to pay for more games
>AI is playing 10,000 games a year
>They all look and sound completely incomprehensible to people, but the AI seem to "enjoy," them.
What does the dark souls of AI games look like?
It can't be worse than the current stale, progressive marxist shit that is the current western AAA market. I would rather risk my hand at some AI games than play anything by Ubisoft.
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I've got 100 followers on pivix and none of them are even close to your chringe ass
>AI playtests the game to see if it's physically beatable
No but seriously, if you trained a gamer AI couldn't you eventually reach the point where you could hard-evidence playtest the balance of a game with 1000s of matches using ai?
https://www.youtube.com/@TwoMinutePapers/
Twominutepapers has a bunch of videos about AI play testers, it's one of the ways they're learning how to develop AGI.
Has he scaled back from sensationalist news back to more legitimate ones or is it pure journalism now?
So, realistically, how long do I have to wait until I can have access to an affordable cloud service general use AI so I can get God Hand 2, Angel Blade s03 and TWOW?
AI will be good for procedurally generated games/content or more "open ended" games (Dwarf Fortress, Minecraft, Victoria 2, Stellaris) and maybe some open ended RPG à la Daggerfall, because the AI will be able to create things that actually make sense instead of random bullshit.
Otherwhise good handcrafted games will be better, but it's not like videogames have a lot of them these days.
Marine's dried up womb
She's only 32, anon.
I really want to see how she looks in real life to see if she's hot.
Wouldn't this result in stagnation? Akin to creating a game using the pre-programed generic tools of a game engine?
And Christ at the amount of pajeet shovelware...
>Wouldn't this result in stagnation?
No... it would result in everyone making every game they've ever wanted, and then from there making games they then decide they want.
>well my dream game is complete but I can do better
>repeat this until you die
Unless it gets to a point where you can run your own AI on your own hardware I imagine you'll have to pay a hefty amount.
But still, unless you do the whole pre-planning of a game where you specify every single detail to be followed I don't see how the results won't be generic. And I imagine the results won't be instant.
I really think we need to slow down this hype until we can ensure that the AI that could potentially "build our dream game" isn't just a service you subscribe to another company. Because you can be 100% assured that it will follow their rules and that might limit the results of the product. And daddy Microsoft will want to re-earn their billions of investements and more. I feel like we should be skeptical until we see where this is going.
>Unless it gets to a point where you can run your own AI on your own hardware I imagine you'll have to pay a hefty amount.
It will get to that point sooner than you realize. It's moving way faster than mobile did.
I understand your skepticism, you don't seem like you're totally braindead, but it's coming anon. Games aren't that complicated.
I don't think that many people are thinking that AI will literally create a whole game from just a text prompt anytime soon. But creating art assets, levels, music, and dialogue are going to be a whole lot easier than they are now, and maybe even basic gameplay systems could be automated. It's likely that that kind of stuff could be able to run on your own rig.
'Make me a 90's style arena shooter' won't be happening anytime soon, but 'make a *size* map in unity and populate it like a *example*', 'make a texture of gritty sci-fi robot model for this model + *art tags*', 'make this rig move like it's missing a leg', etc are more possible
Creating an entire game from scratch is in the realm of LLMs which we have and are always improving. You simple train a model based on video game source code and it could code for you. You CAN code a janky game with chatGPT right now and chatGPT is baby tier compared to what exists in labs and is coming.
Creating models,voices, animations, text, and levels is something AIs can already do today.
Yeah but it's likely that those aren't going to be particularly good or exceptional. I'm more interested in what people are going to make once creating assets become so easy that anyone can do it, like assembling a game via lego bricks. We'll got tons of CoD, Fortnite, Doom, Smash Bros, & Sonic riffs, but I'm sure we'll also get a couple cool weirdos making shit like a Killer 7 send-up. I loved the early 2000s where everyone was still trying to figure out what worked in 3D, and you get really cool shit because of experimentation. You get God Hand, Pikmin, RE Outbreak, Ico, DMC and the entire character action genre that followed it. You also get tons of weird ideas like Killer7, or Typing of the Dead, or Katamari, etc. Sure, most of them won't be good, but the PS2 library was full of shovelware and that didn't stop it from being incredible anyways.
AI is meant to be a person, or many people, that just do whatever you tell them to do. It's not just some system that shits out a finished product you can't edit. If something is wrong you tell it to change it.
But yeah we're basically on the same page. 3D prompting will be so amazing for vidya.
no it wont, it would be the death of the industry, why bother paying for new games?
Yes it will, that's what AI is and what every breakthrough is working towards.
>why bother paying for new games?
Indeed, games will be free.
This affects more than video games too.
do you think having all these games are going to incentivize people into even making or using them?
>oh no, we have too many good games because making them is so easy
You're one of these retards huh.
>>oh no, we have too many good games because making them is so easy
NTA but...
Genshin Impact is one of the best games ever made and I was never one to complain about engines. Not sure what strawmen you think you're talking to but it ain't me.
Genshin impact barely count as asset flip made by no name one guy studio.
We literally got people shitposting about Bleak Faith a Soul-like game that used stolen asset from elden ring.
I thought you were talking more about the engine than asset flipping, because asset flipping is seriously irrelevant in this conversation.
No, I'm talking about imcopetent devs.
unity was frown upon decade ago because it enable people making garbage game just because they can compile random assets from the internet and sell it in steam early access for easy cash grab.
>it would be the death of the industry
Thank fucking god. No more MTX driven design that sands everything down to appeal to normies. No more designing games just for the fuckers who treat them like movies and drop them after 2 hours. No more designing everything about optimizing MTX/engagement from those casual players. The industry deserves to shrink and budgets need to fucking plummet. The industry practices of the last 15 years need to die and stay in the past.
>why bother paying for new games?
Because they would have to offer experiences that match their price tags. Because competition is good for consumers. Ideally because they're able to create things with teams of designers that indies aren't able to, offering a wider variety of things than before.
Big companies wont use AI. We had to tell some of our employees to not use chatGPT because its leaking company info and breaking NDAs. Hope no one uses it to post e-boi stuff. You might get a visit from the feds.
>Big companies wont use AI.
You mean... companies like Microsoft, Nvidia, Facebook, Amazon, and Google? They're all using it a lot. Do you mean the smaller companies who have greater opportunities for profit than them?
AAA studios like the one im at. Our management dont want other companies knowing about games we're working on or other company secrets.
EA, Ubisoft, and Microsoft are using AI. What AAA studio do you work for anon?
Sony. They also dont want to use the art stuff because copyright laws.
>I w-work for Sony
https://ai.sony/
>Sony AI, if you're unfamiliar, was established in April 2020 with the goal of pursuing "groundbreaking research in AI and robotics in the realm of entertainment". Its website list four main areas of interest - AI ethics, imaging and sensing, gastronomy, and, of course, gaming
I see anon, I see.
Whatever dude. Thats what our management said. I think you are underestimating the legal aspect. Sony music are using AI for song generation but are not training it on anything they dont own the rights to.
I'm a gamedev, IMO current AI is not suitable to develop a game by any means. The way it generates assets are not really viable in production unless you want something extremely jank and incohesive. You might be able to get passable results in a vacuum but it simply cannot provide you with something appropriate even for jam-tier games.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/3/23623473/blender-stable-diffusion-ai-plugin-3d-modeling-texture-render
>The Verge
Thanks for the laugh, time to watch this video again.
>crying about the website
>ignores the article
Noel titties
Marine booty
At this point it's almost guaranteed the A.I. will be able to make better games than modern mentally ill liberals in the industry.
Current game series almost seem like they are being generated by some bad AI already. Like FIFA, CoD, Battlefield etc. Assassin's Creed series seems like the result of feeding an AI with the first two games, some history books and the communist manifesto. At least with AI games we can have alternatives to this shit, new combinations of interesting inputs etc.
>6 months in since AI released.
>Still hasn't taken anything over and it still fucks up the hands.
2 MORE WEEKS RAQEESH AND THEY WILL SEE!
Humans have been fucking up hands for our entire history, it might take AI a year or two
>Humans have been fucking up hands for our entire history
funny enough that's why AI has so much trouble with it, because there's so much art from humans with shit hands it has to learn off
Last I checked, I don't remember humans constantly adding 7 fingers on each hand.
post your work
>The FF Tactics Pajeet is already shilling in the new AIslop thread.
Recognize this one? It's your AI trash that you posted in the last thread. I literally sketched it out in 5 minutes before it hit bump limit and was unable to post it in the last thread but I'm glad you're here so I can steal more of your art and I can take all the credit for it in the real world and it won't trace back to anyone because you're a nobody making AI trash.
Dont bother with that shill, he's here just to troll. Its a known schizo from Ganker
Oh wow, that's incredibly pathetic and yet hilarious.
>Recognize this one?
No... It looks nothing like my art. You can't even trace? Damn dude, do you need some lessons? I give art tips for free.
>Cope: the Post
Aw what happened to posting more of your FF Tactics slop that you didn't even make? You that a scared of me taking credit for your AI trash?
>No... It looks nothing like my art.
Lmao @ your life.
My god it generates descriptions under the pictures because it's been trained with a fucking artbook, and pathetic weasels will call it their own art. Disgusting beyond belief.
This anon inadvertently showed a perfect example of what I thought would be a great use of AI.
Prototyping.
You can use AI to generate character designs, poses, scenes, etc. They won't be perfect but it can be enough to fuel your own imagination or help you decide if a certain design or style is what you really want. A skilled artist can then redraw the work (not trace) making changes as necessary until you have a completely original piece.
Really artists are the biggest opponents when instead they should be the ones making the most of it while it's still somewhat in the hands of the average person.
Even game development can benefit, all you need is a good proof of concept, then you can gather the monetary support of fans. You use that money to get actually skilled coders to fix it the AI patchwork, artists to revamp your models/art, and musicians to redo your creative Commons or AI music into something unique to your IP. Theoretically, ideas guys have finally won.
I don't really get why people do these mental gymnastics. You can do it all just through AI. There are AI artists who "finish" their work with extensive img2imging if not photoshopping. Control net could have you draw a base then just prompt the rest in.
Well anon, since my computer can handle any of the AI; I don't have any personal experience with the quality of outputs. Some anons have posted some good shit, most anons post terrible shit.
The difference is that the personal investment of time and resources for the failed kickstarter would be lower. This could result in the person refining their works or giving up. Given what I've seen make bank on kickstarters, I think more people would be successful than you'd expect. This would likely be more in the short term as perhaps people might actually develop taste/discretion in what they throw their money on. So it could (long term) result in a highly competitive environment with a low barrier to entry but a high ceiling for success where you'd be forced to experiment to be successful because copycat works would simply be drowned out.
It's about lowering the barriers of entry. If the user can create economic stability for themselves using this AI, they then can have the time to train themselves to do the work without AI turning it form a crutch into a tool. It's a force multiplier. I've actually felt MORE enthusiastic about practicing my drawing AFTER seeing other anon's generations.
>So it could (long term) result in a highly competitive environment with a low barrier to entry but a high ceiling for success where you'd be forced to experiment to be successful because copycat works would simply be drowned out.
This hasn't happened since the beginning of crowd funding websites an AI generated concepts won't make people suddenly develop a better sense of what to throw their money into. If anything you're just advocating for more low-effort shit that's already plaguing these platforms.
Normie money isn't infinite, if everyone does the same low effort slop, there's not going to be a large enough slice of the pie to be worth it.
And even if it is worth it, how will this negatively effect me? I won't buy the game and if it takes away from Indie/AAA then they'll simply have to trim the fat and stop pandering to people who hate games anyways.
Seems more than a fair trade for the occasional break out game.
But 90% of crowfunding projects don't even get their full funding so how will AI change that? Again you're just throwing more garbage into a sea of garbage. The successful projects are already being head by people who know what they're doing and most importantly, have the connections to bring others into the project. There's no use case for your scenario you originally outlined.
AI lowers the funding needed by lowering the initial investment and the opportunity cost of time spent.
Furthermore it works as a force multiplier for people who DO know what they're doing. AI might not be able to make models for the final version of the game but it can generate plenty of temps (concept, models, shading, voices) to get the general idea across. This lets the dev focus on gameplay or refine dialogue (some stuff sounds fine written but terrible when voiced). Again I've always seen more value in it as a tool for prototyping rather than one that will straight up replace the professionals.
That's not how prototyping really works and I'm going to refer to your original post
again specifically:
>Even game development can benefit, all you need is a good proof of concept, then you can gather the monetary support of fans. You use that money to get actually skilled coders to fix it the AI patchwork, artists to revamp your models/art, and musicians to redo your creative Commons or AI music into something unique to your IP. Theoretically, ideas guys have finally won.
Your average idea guy has no idea how to lead a project. He can ask for $100,000 and get that but he doesn't know how to budget or even how he needs in the first place. Compared to somebody who already works in the gaming industry and has lead projects before, he knows how much he needs, who to hire, how to budget, etc so there's no need for the AI because the people and tools are already at their disposal. Most smal indie teams or one-man developers already have their prototypes worked out and offered as the pitch so again, no need for AI. There's no use case for Ai generated stuff because it does nothing to aid the campaign in the first place.
Then stop talking about AI.
Why? Given the level of discussion between the blind hate and the blind obsession; I at least lack the biases that make the former two act like mouth breathing retards.
I'm also not pretending to know more than I do, I'm theorizing and asking questions, occasionally I receive answers.
Because you're not adding anything to the discussion, you're just looking stupid.
I guess I could post some Dalle art and spam "artfags seethe" that makes me look smart?
Or perhaps I should shout "doom doom ai soulless!"
No, most anons generating aren't creative at all, they make the same shit over and over and copy the same shit other anons make. You follow a few Ganker threads you've seen them all. It's the last 0.1% of stuff that gets posted that makes it worth even looking into it. There's been some interesting techniques that have been shared; anon using skeleton poses to get the ai to generate accurate poses with the correct amount of fingers, training the AI on specific characters/people; stuff that might later develop into realistic tools.
But most discussions never talk about this, they just post more anime titties or complain that the tities are soulless.
You're not adding to any discussion, I've at least started some debate among anons that ISN'T the same circle jerk as every other thread. All you've done is complain.
>You're not adding to any discussion
I have most of the (you)'s ITT. Pretty sure I'm doing fine. We're in a discussion right now and I sincerely think you shouldn't be talking about something you can't even use, it makes you look stupid.
Yea, a lot of people have called you a retard. Weird thing to be proud of.
Seriously anon, muh (You)'s, if that's all you care about. I actually want quality discussion, not your shitflinging.
>Yea, a lot of people have called you a retard.
Nope, just you. Funny because you are one of the only retards here. Probably jobless since you can't afford a graphics card.
The lazy pseud cannot imagine useful work being interesting.
>Even game development can benefit, all you need is a good proof of concept, then you can gather the monetary support of fans. You use that money to get actually skilled coders to fix it the AI patchwork, artists to revamp your models/art, and musicians to redo your creative Commons or AI music into something unique to your IP. Theoretically, ideas guys have finally won.
That only works if the ideas guy knows how to lead a project full of people. What you're proposing is just more failed kickstarter campaigns.
I think machine generation can be a useful tool but I fundamentally don't understand automating an activity that is in itself enjoyable. Like I get that machines will inevitably replace all commercial jobs for illustrators and 3D modelers and composers and so on because the commercial industry is all about brute forcing results fast and cheap, but non-commercial art is about the process rather than the result. Perfection is the end of the pursuit. What are you supposed to do then, learn rock climbing or do cocaine?
how is wasting your life drawing enjoyable??? wasting your life drawing funny faces when you want to draw anime??? really? You are like people who say working out is fun, you're wasting your time and killing yourself for fun, the only thing people want is the end result, if the process is boring shit it should be AI
How is wasting your life breathing enjoyable???
How can you lack that much soul...
Yes, partaking in the creation of something you came up with and seeing your efforts become a beautiful thing is enjoyable.
This. When I see people talk about being creative with AI it makes me just think of photographers calling themselves artists. Pointing and clicking doesn't mean you created anything worthwhile or interesting.
A machine is doing all the work for you
Photographers are actually way more of artists than AI pajeets will ever be. They actually have to get up off their ass and make sure to be able to get the right shot. The ones working in National Geographic will literally wait hours until an animal comes around so they can snap the perfect shot while AI is as much work as finding something on Google Images and waiting for it to print out.
lol
When some random asshole can point his iphone at a something and say "I'm an artist" it stops being art.
If they go out in the Amazon and snap a picture of a waterfall, sure it would be artistic meanwhile AI slop will always be considered just that, effortless slop.
>effortless slop.
Yes, just like photography. Glad we agree
Photographs are artists and most people respect them more than paintpigs.
Prompting is more advanced than photography and is another form of art.
>doesn't know what prompting is
How are you this ignorant? There are books on the subject.
>Typing in words in google images is an art.
These AItards are completely retarded.
>prompting is more advanced than photography and another form of art.
Listen, Billy... can I call you Billy? I will be straight up honest with you - if people like you just stopped at "this AI tool allows me to get fanart and pornographic material suited for my tasted cheaply, easily and efficiently. Sure it may be low quality sometimes but I don't care so much, and its for my personal use anyway" people would have zero actual issue with AI, even would applaud it. People wanting quality would still use regular artists but someone just wanting specific artwork of their favourite character right at this moment without caring about quality would get what they wanted too. All would be at peace.
But no, first you get to work igniting a flame war, insisting AI will replace actual artwork and make it obsolete. You extend it to other fields like writing and music, when the results are still less than desired. You keep acting smug about it, continuously stirring up shit and causing pointless arguments.
And then you take it even futher beyond and start being actually CONVINCED that AI artwork is on the same level as actual art and that it takes the same amount of skill and effort, that you deserve displaying your "art" even in real life galleries, that you should be allowed to make money for it. You actually start making claims that typing in a prompt is a form of "art", that its something you can master. And its all intervined with constant scoffing at "artfags", enemies you created in your head.
You don't realize it but you are the luddites or artists mad about -new art- of the 21st century and it's genuinely hilarious seeing history unfold in front of my eyes. Your opinion is meaningless, you're just angry lol.
If they were luddites, then why are people who use technology like Photoshop and Blender so against AI in the first place?
There actually were artists back then who said digital art wasn't real art
You have any proof to back that up or is this just another pajeet strawman? Artists were even using MS Paint since its inception.
The debate is still on you retarded zoomer
https://medium.com/art-direct/is-digital-art-real-art-b3046f3ee7da
https://www.quora.com/Do-you-agree-or-disagree-with-the-argument-that-digital-artists-are-less-creative-or-lazier-than-traditional-artists
https://artofericwayne.com/2019/10/06/the-complete-absence-of-digital-painting-in-the-fine-art-world/
There are bros today who say video games aren’t art, point is there will come a time when these people enjoy a movie or animation and they’ll learn that a part of it was made by AI. I don’t know what the thought process is going to be but it will be interesting
They are mentally retarded artists against -new art-. They've inherited that same spiritual retardation our ancestors had. Luddies used technology, they just didn't like the new technology that was endandgering their craft. Just like the digital artists you're talking about. But they'll adopt it eventually and in the meantime I'll have my keks.
There's no gauge, it's just art. But more people do appreciate film and photography more than paint and that's a fact.
>Film
Yes, that's a given.
>Photography
lol
It's plastered all over the internet and media 24/7. Much more photographs are produced than drawings. And film and television are a subset of photography.
Most photography isnt considered art. Art usually has a concept behind the piece and has to be thought of as a work of art. Posting a picture of your lunch on instagram wouldn't be put in an art museum unless you gathered a collection of them and talked about the shallowness of social media.
And just look at this - whenever people explain what I'm saying to you right now, you just lash out, you get angry, you deny reality. You keep claiming that "no no no, you're stupid, this is art and I'm an artist, this is the future and you're too stupid to understand it" when I doubt you even understand half the prompts you use trying to make "professional" artwork or what kind of processes actually take place in actual creative work including using blender or photoshop. You keep lashing out and denying reality, claiming youre something you're not - and that's just depressing, Billy
>projection
Son, I get it. You were born as a bright young man with potential, but you let opportunities slip by. You tried to actually get into art, but lost all interest once you realises that its something that needs hours and hours of practice, lots of patience and determination to become better. You kept asking for shortcuts, some sort of magic guide that will allow a complete amateur to draw high quality art in moments. But it doesn't exist. So when AI art comes around, a tool that you think will allow you to instantly make art without having to put in time and effort, you fanatically latch onto it as your "big break".
Billy... take it from a guy older than you - this is just sad. You can use your magic computer toys to make infinite anime girls for your own satisfaction, but you will NEVER. Actually. Be. An. Artist. You didn't make ANY of these anime girls. The computer did. And claiming that you actually put in any sort of effort into the process is a terrible lie, Billy. You input things you can barely understand but think will make the drawing "good" - high quality, 4k, 8k, highres, paintingoncanvas, professionalportrait, random names of artists you found on google - nothing about it takes "skill", Billy. You're just inputting random phrases into the program hoping you will get a masterpiece and not yet another run of the mill predictable piece of AI artwork.
You're not an artist. End of story son
Jesus christ Hank just BTFO all the pajeets for eternity!
Cute strawman, but you're aware that most people couldn't care less about the abstract concept of ''art'', ''real art'' and ''artist'', right?
I'll have you know that most people will just turn around and walk away when they get informed you didn't make the drawing you just showed them
Also any average Joe can tell fucked up anatomy or weird errors when they look closely
If you were an actual artist and knew what the artistic process involves and requires, you wouldn't be saying this
>If you were an actual artist and knew what the artistic process involves and requires, you wouldn't be saying this
Everyone is an artist and I say that confidently because AI art has plenty of in-depth processes to express whatever you want.
>I don't like it so it's not art
Not how it works.
>Not how it works.
Uhoh
You can't say that anon or AI prompters will say they're artists too
They are artists.
They're con "artists", frauds, and phonies and nobody likes em.
They're just artists, plain and simple. You have this idea that being an artist makes you special but it doesn't. This thread had an artist proving he couldn't even color an image meaning he's below a toddler, but he's still an artist just like the AI artists or the person who made this photograph
That's rich coming from an AIfag who wouldn't even be able to draw a Kirby. Real artists can put their work on any canvas like walls and floors like Egyptian carvings meanwhile AI pajeets are only pretend artists until they have to go to work and they have no access to a computer to do all the work for them.
You wouldn't call a receipt art would you? Its written text on paper so why not?
The average Joe doesn't go out of his way to check the author of every image he sees online, and the anatomical imperfections are going to be ironed out eventually. What else do you got?
>the anatomical imperfections are going to be ironed out eventually
Weren't you gays already saying it did?
Then by that logic you're admitting you're less valuable than the average amateur artist who can draw a variety of big titty women without needing a program trained on hundreds of thousands of image data.
Your conclusion is a non sequitur...but sure, you are ''superior'', you can sleep now.
He knows he isn't, he will not sleep well. But he will cope again tomorrow.
> the anatomical imperfections are going to be ironed out eventually
What happened to that "controlnet fixes imperfections" shit you morons were shilling?
Not him but when AI has a handle over 3D the way it has a handle on 2D, there will be no more anatomical issues because you're working with something concrete in a 3D space, with an AI who understands physics.
You gonna be ok?
I'll be more than okay since I have actual talent, something an AIfag could only dream of having so he could actually fix the fucked up hands and melted features.
You know you don't.
I can draw realism, my last drawing was Samuel L Jackson from Pulp Fiction. Keep coping pajeet.
>doesn't post it
>thinks that takes talent
If it's so easy then why can only few people do it and you can't? I would never post my real work in a thieves den full of AItards.
If you have talent why aren't you posting it?
If you have talent, why are you posting AI images?
You're the only person in this thread talking about talent, you've been coping about it all day.
>elf dude has been in the thread for literally 5 hours
>starts projecting that others are "in here all day"
Because you're simply not worth it, Pajeet. My good art is reserved for people with actual taste and skills.
Sad.
Sad I wasn't born yesterday? AIfags are truly retarded. I'd be sad aswell that you'll never reach my level no matter how hard you tried, even with the help of AI.
Keep coping mate and get back to practicing. You should at least finish one piece in your life!
I'm an artist. AI art is art.
You're responding to someone that actually thinks photography is on par with paint as far as being an artist goes. Just give up trying to reason with them.
you're right but every response is going to boil down to "SEETHING LUDDITE/ARTFAG NO JOB" because that's kinda the point of these arguments, they're not made in good faith it's just easy bait
That's wrong, AI fags do make arguments in good faith but they always devolve because the other side does not have any good arguments, they are indeed seething luddite artfags. Perfect example here
>non-commercial art is about the process rather than the result
For artists, sure. I'm sure there's plenty of other people who just want to see their ideas put to paper, and aren't good enough to do it themselves and aren't passionate enough about art to learn. There's nothing wrong with them getting to see that, especially if it sparks a genuine interest in creating.
>You can use AI to generate character designs, poses, scenes, etc.
You aifags repeatedly prove you're retards that never worked on or creating anything.
Now post this same character with absolutely 0 alterations in a dynamic pose or with another character. AI art (currently) is useless for games unless it's a visual novel. Current models suck ass at object persistence.
There are many games with AI art that prompt consistent characters, it's easier with anime styles but you can do it with realistic styles too.
Genuinely beyond pathetic at this point but thanks for the laugh.
Well... you tried lmao. I hope tracing my masterworks helps you improve 🙂
>Too scared to post more of his FF Tactics AI slop.
>Y...you traced!
You can line both of them up in photoshop if you want, it was done freehand in mere minutes because like I stated in the last thread when you said I couldn't draw it, anime shit is easy to draw.
You know they pull this every retarded thread? They want you to draw something, paste it on img2img and tell you its "owning" you.
>I wasted my time poorly tracing your work, please give me more haha btfo!
this is really bizarre
Haha yeah, you did get BTFO by real talent, that's for sure. I can't wait to show all my homies all this new FF Tactics art that I came up with myself.
Right... well thanks for the fanart bro. I guess I really am famous now.
>It's traced.
>It doesn't look like my AI slop.
So which one is it then? Saying it was traced just makes me look that much better.
You are coping so hard right now.
op is mad as fuck I can make 0 effort art like this in 10 minutes or less lmao
>10 minutes
More like an hour if you don't have a good grafix card and you can do that in 5 minutes with Photoshop.
I looked it up, it seems I provoked you earlier today which made you veeery mad. Then some hours later you come back showing your work that proved me right.
>That generated in under a minute and you couldn't draw it.
If anyone is coping, I'm sorry but it is you..
Check the IP retard, I'm not even the drawfag that was replying to you but that shit was hilarious how much you started to cope. Can you blame me?
Oh hey, more free art to add into my anime portfolio. It's going to be mine now, kinda funny how you were saying AI is just a tool but in reality you were actually my tool all along 😛
You aren't capable of drawing those.
You said that last time and you became the laughing stock of the thread, wanna bet?
And I was right lol. Your sketch sucks and that was an easy one. I look forward to your next work though 😉
Sour grapes in a nutshell. You wish you could draw as good as me so you wouldn't have to use AI, too bad so sad you're useless tho.
Hey FF Tactics Pajeet, hows my new sketch coming along?
I love it bro, can you finish it or is sketching all you're capable of?
Thanks my favorite tool, I was going to sketch the other ones but I think I'll yoink this one aswell and I can get all the praise for actually drawing it.
>but I think I'll yoink this one aswell
That is an img2img fanart of your work bro. I'm your fan too. It's just too bad you can't make a single finished piece.
I don't have to finish it, all I have to prove is that I have something you'll never have, actual talent while you play pretend.
Not enough talent for people to actually hire you instead of using AI in 5 years max. Your style is extremely generic and basic, sorry.
Funny how actual art is like a cross to vampires for AImorons
>AI pajeets
>Getting hired
Thanks for the laugh, that was a good one.
>Search source
>"By Adolf H"
>pepewot
>"Adolf Hiremi"
kek
wow you got it signed by the original artist, oh wait
>People love your AI art
>Someone feeds it to their own AI and starts making new stuff
>They claim it's their own art
>NOOO THAT'S MY ART, *MY* ART!!!
>They don't give a fuck and keep going
>They gain a bigger following because they start pandering to the coomers
>Someone else feeds the coomer art to their own AI and starts gaining a following with new stuff
>NOOO THAT'S MY ART!!!
>There are many games with AI art that prompt consistent characters
where
Steam, dlsite, itch.io
Using AI is fun and it's another skill to master.
which games
retard it's already being used to draw backgrounds
>cgi is cheating
>back in my day we had to hand draw every frame of animation
who FUCKING cares
75% of human beings aren't as creative as artificial intelligence already anyways
it can't get worse from where we are now
Wasn't Ganker the one who can't stopped complaining about unity game maker using assets flip in every new unity game?
Oh for fucks sake why are the pajeets infesting this board too?
mods are asleep, so they raid free
NFTs and crypto tanked and AI is the new scam
>suddenly
Its pretty simple: You deserve what you allow.
Retarded mods allowed shills to archive, now they infest this board like rats in shit.
tbh the biggest problem there would be lack of ability to share fun secrets with other people in internet
Something will probably replace it like cool scenario ideas or some shit but still
NEVER post that subhuman opportunistic WHORE on my board ever again, retard
"kudasai"
Maybe make a good fucking game then instead of committee-approved, global standard pandering, political soapbox stand-in garbage for toddlers.
Humans haven't been able to do it, might as well let skynet have a shot
Sweaty passionate rough sex with Hoshou Marine
All games will be streaming?
Anyone excited for an AI-driven future is fundamentally anti-human and should be culled.
Only insecure pathetic ''artists'' would say something like that.
Of course the best human art will always be superior to the best AI creations, but does that mean there is no space for AI at all? Of course not. Most artists are mediocre and won't be able to compete with AI. I don't care how much you want to live of your deviantart pregnant Sonic drawings and commissions, you can't stop technological progress. Now you either make something on the level of the greatest human artists, or you're better off looking for another job.
>Only insecure pathetic ''artists''
t. projecting """engineer"""
good morning sirs. Reminder to do the needful by not redeem
>AI writes all the code
Which one? I cant code for my game so that would be perfect.
SHE'S 17 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
why is she so fat?
>but I wasted my entire life drawing everything frame by frame!!
>i wasted my entire life working out!!
>i put "effort" in, that means my work is good! it has "soul"!
HAAHAHAGAHHAHAHAHA. Artcels are fucking finished. What matter is result. If you can prompt a good game, nobody cares if AI made it, and everyone would do it instead of wasting their life drawing. If you could press a button to get an instant fit body to attract women, everyone would do it instead of wasting their life picking up a metal like caveman.
You wasted your life and you are inefficient, youre supposed to work SMART. Not hard
>i wasted my entire life working out when I could have taken the shortcut and inject my arms with oils.
Pretty much this. Real artists do it for themselves to elevate their souls, not to sell it for money (intellectual property is a meme anyways). Soon they won't even have the chance of selling art at all, unless they are the top 0,00001% best artists.
Does programming have its own "handcraft"-like appeal, or is it better off automated? After all, game code should be bug-free and optimised and the measure of those things isn't really subjective.
programming is about design, when theres a human at the controls, they can map it out with ease, and if they do it right its almost like painting.
theres also livecoding.
Coding is an art form too but like images, AI can handle it.
Hand drawn will always be better but who gives a fuck when I can make shit like this
Why does that rifle have more than one barrel?
it makes it more powerful
Humanity will become slaves to machines, not because the machines will conquer us with bombs and guns, but because they will conquer us through replacing the human mind behind all creative and critical thought. Why put the effort to learn an intellectually challenging skill when you can ask an AI to think for you? Now get back to consooming, cattle; after all, it’s been tailor made to your exact psychological profile.
Some AI could come up with a less cliché, boring and predictable episode of Black Mirror than yours, anon.
Tell me how I’m wrong. I’ll wait.
The average Joe is already an NPC. They always have been. Exceptional people that do exceptional things are, obviously, a small minority. AI won't change that. AI won't stop anyone's pursuit of excellence and self-improvement. It might make it difficult for them to profit from their work, but is money the only reason you make art or pursuit intellectual goals? If so, maybe you're also another NPC that thinks he's the MC.
“Five percent of the people think;
ten percent of the people think they think;
and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.”
― Thomas A. Edison
Money isn’t the motivator for innovation or creativity, but to refine ideas and put them into practice takes time - compensation is necessary, otherwise they won’t have time as they’ll be forced to work menial jobs to afford survival, let alone the necessary investments to pay for all the legal bullshit to get off the ground - can’t take out a loan without enough collateral. This isn’t 1800’s America anymore, where you could just relocate to a new frontier to start fresh in a place that your niche has yet to be fulfilled.
Very few people behind these things look at it as a “get rich quick without working” thing: rather it’s more “I’d just like to make enough to live comfortably off of it so I can devote my time to it much more.” Those who see it as an easy get-out-of-work-free card are the ngmi failures you see on /ic/, the type who put the cart before the horse.
So basically you're not in a financially comfortable situation to devote more time to your hobbies? Why is that my problem? I have my own life to worry about. Are you saying we should stop the technological progress of humanity to make your life more convenient? No matter what you say, it will sound extremely egotistic and delusional. It's not about innovation being impeded, its not about the risk of the average Joe-NPC turning into an NPC, its not about people losing their humanity, its about technological innovation being inconvenient to your personal life's plans.
Crab bucket mentality. If AI was beneficial, it’d be freeing us from menial blue collar and low end white collar labor, giving us more of the time to think and pursue our true interests. I don’t think there’s as many npcs as you do, rather that most people are forced into the 40+ hour work week which rids them of the time necessary to devote to these pursuits. If you’ve ever done them yourself, you’d know it’s not merely a “hobby” you can relax with for a scheduled couple hours. Also hypocritical to call it egotistical when the gist of your response is “not my problem.” You very much should care if advancement of the human species is something you care about. AI is not innately bad, but the current course it’s heading down will do more harm than good as it advances.
Essentially, you’re arguing that only those born into luxury deserve to be anything more than a laborer, even if that wasn’t your intention. It’s easy to say “make time”, but you cannot make time because, as you implied, the world as it is does not care if you do or don’t have time. Riddle me this; why design AI to compete in computer science, art, and even philosophy? Who does that benefit more? Only people I’ve seen enjoying it are the npcs you condemn, who simply do not have time nor care to develop skills, and are happy with just consuming whatever is “good enough.” Do you call that “progress?”
Raise your standards. AI generated content is like a diet of candy. The intelligent and creative aren’t going anywhere, but life just got much harder for them for no good reason.
What if my interest is blue collar work?
Then I wouldn’t believe you. No laborer I’ve met is happy breaking their backs for a bullshit wage, only seeing it as a means to an end.
I like working with my hands. Electrician work is fun to me, and it pays exceptionally well.
Alright, I’ll entertain it. So, from that perspective, do you think it’s ideal for everyone to be forced into blue collar work?
Nope. You should pursue what you enjoy, and for most people, you can actually do this if you apply yourself. AI notwithstanding, the fruits of human labour will always be in some level of demand, including art. I wouldn't complain and scream for technological process to stop if it imperiled my work, because for starters I know it's pointless from historical examples, and secondly, there are always going to be people who prefer the human touch.
For example, I still commission art from human artists, even though I could use an AI to do it, because while it might seem irrational that I value human work over AGI, it is what it is. I'm a simple man, if I like a thing, I don't waste time pondering the whys and hows in some misguided pursuit of efficiency in all things.
And when AI reaches the level of being indistinguishable from human work if you don't know the origin? What if you see a piece of art you actually love, only to discover that it was ''soulless AI trash'' all along? See how silly it is to disregard AI art by principle? I'm a simpler simple man: I like what I like, and I don't care how it came to be.
>2 more weeks sir
>What happens when it's indistinguishable
I ask who the artist is, I receive an answer, I let my sentimentality do the rest
>What if they lie
Why must people lie?
They would lie for the same reason an used car salesman would lie about the miles on a vehicle: to sell you something. But you're missing the main point here. You're rejecting something you would otherwise appreciate for no good reason. You're saying art can't live independent of the artist (or creator, if you will), that they have no intrinsic value, and that we as humans can't (or at least shouldn't) find beauty and meaning in creations that don't come from where we want them to come.
I'm just being realistic and pragmatic here. The world doesn't work the way we wished it did, and it doesn't revolve around any single person. It is what it is, and the cat it out of the bag. AI is here to stay, all we can do is our best, as always. Humanity won't go out of their way to make your life easier (they might, but not the way you want). Adapt or die. If humans can't compete with AI, maybe we deserve to lose.
Then lose we most likely will, hence my original post. Maybe not in our lifetimes(or maybe so with how rapidly it’s advancing), but I still believe this is the tipping point for mankind’s long term future. I’m not gonna stop pursuing my passions, and it will probably kill me as a result(slowly), but I’m disappointed with the path we’ve chosen and will continue to live in spite of it.
I don't subscribe to this extreme doomer view of the future. Like I said before, the best human art will always be superior. It's not like the average NPC is a fine connoisseur of high art anyways, they will just switch from mediocre human art to mediocre AI art. People will still be free to create what they want and appreciate what they want, AI doesn't change that.
That's complete ignorant babble, if that was true, people by the millions wouldn't go to museums like the Louvre in Paris or the Met in New York to see all the greatest works of art created by humans.
Your post didn't contradict him at all and fine arts museums appreciate AI art anyway so your point is moot regardless.
Ah yes, the average Joe is an avid museum goer, an appreciator of fine art, an intellectual, a spiritually enlightened individual. That is the world we live in. Yes.
Retard.
And every single one of those people are actually appreciators of fine art or are just checking a semi-obligatory box in their vacation trip to Paris, just before the next attraction? Anon...
Thanks for proving my point from earlier retard.
You seem a bit confused, but whatever, friend. Enjoy your delusions.
Why do Marine have the best porn?
Because she likes it.
Honestly this might be it. She actively encourages her fans to enjoy being horny, but not to the point that it comes off as super desperate.
She actually spends money to get past paywalls for porn of herself. She wants people who don't even know her to recognize her from porn.
I love Marine, she is what sex positivity actually looks like.
It's depressingly rare to see a female public figure actually encourage men to have horny fun instead of trying to shame us for daring to have a sexual impulse.
she destroyed millions of shotas
Not as many as Noel though
>IT'S OKAY TO BE HORNY
>people will shout that this male supremist movement made by patriarchy sympathizers
She cute
You dont need skill to "master" AI
lmao funny cope, go hide your prompts pajeet
without skill you might type small boob instead of big boob
But small boob is the sign of true skill.
This guy gets it. It ain't easy to proompt.
AI could honestly be used for some incredible feats in the future.
Oh look, it's the hourly Indian bot thread. You know what to do sirs.
>body is 11/10
>voice is 4/10
why japanese keep doing this?
Hello, I'm not going to post more than once but nearly all artists are whiny morons who's minds will break at any moment, prompting them to remove anything and everything they have ever made from the internet and as such I feel nothing about them losing their jobs to AI in the future. Artists are to make things for me to play and jack off to and any attempt to subvert this via emotional gayry or monetary gayry is unacceptable. I have never paid for a commission and I never will, I will find your art for free and I will train algorithms on it so I can jack off forever.
>thread still alive
holy shit
has ff tactics guy used a single other style in the last few months? shit's weird
I've only been able to make FFT stuff for the past month and yes, I change it up every day. Today I made art using Monogatari, Disgaea, FFX, Code Geass, Mosha, OOT, Gundam, generic/random, and Asanagi artstyles.
You can't finish it.
>Oh no no no the pajeet is going through the 5 stages of grief!
>First denial
>And now acceptance
Nobody cares what you generate because it was made by AI, fraud. Continue getting BTFO by the drawchads.
>he admits it by dodging
Damn that's sad. Imagine calling yourself an artist but being worse than an AI.
his art is much better than your proompts, gay
That must be why he isn't posting it. He can't even finish a single piece!
neither can you, retard. Posting broken garbage like that would be a disgrace to any actual artist.
>Dodging
You mean like you changing the goalposts from the first sketch I posted?
>It doesn't look the same.
>You traced it.
>You can't finish it.
Keep coping AItard, even if you were able to sell your AI slop for pennies. You would have to sell thousands just to make as much money as I do for one tattoo that I do. Stay seething that you'll forever be worthless.
Genuinely pathetic people. jfc
Somebody put the FF Tactics pajeet on suicide watch, it's all over for him!
you tried
>tell an artist he can't do something
>he couldn't after spending hours trying
I couldn't have landed a better catch.
I love how you cope bro. Nothing you've tried to say matters lol, you're just seething about AI art and making me laugh and feel awkward for you.
Because artists have mental issues. ChatGPT scraped way more of our data than Stability did, and like you say no one cares about that. Not even the msm.
Bro, you got owned twice by the artchads with your own AIslop. You sure it's us coping or yourself?
>It doesn't look the same.
>You traced it.
>You can't finish it.
All true anon. I get it now though, you're a sub-par tattoo artist, you simply can't color lmao.
>no you
Whatever you need to tell yourself about coping over having no actual talent.
>BTFO'd by "drawchads"
>when all they've been doing this whole thread is copying AI art, with less detail, and no color, while taking more time to do it
You are literally the very thing you're bitching about AI doing. No one's gonna hire you if all you can do is trace shit with a pencil. At least AI guy can make a complete image.
The hiring argument is always funny to me because why would somebody who doesn't know what they're doing get hired over somebody who does
stable diffusion is not hard, i guarantee people will be simply adapting to use it in workflows
if you just get people PROOMPTING you get shit like this, which is currently frontpaging /r/ stablediffusion
This. Nobody is going to get hired for being an AI soothsayer. Also the AI's are just as good at generating text for prompts just as much as they are generating pictures so when the AI is trained enough and has enough data of people's interests, they won't need the AI pajeets to add in prompts.
>I plug in my snes and play ff6 again
Please post more Marine lewds. The thread is full of people accusing each other of being AI pajeets.
so did an online artist fuck up a picture of your waifus or something at one point? Why are the AI prompters so nasty when they pop up in these threads? Did someone overcharge you for a commission piece?
>AItards making fun of the people they stole from
lol
lmao
>It's democratizing art, i can make a game by myself!
If you're making it by yourself why is hiring an artist even in the question, it's complete nonsense
I don't even get the democatizing art argument either. Democratizing it how? All you need is a pencil, paper and one of the thousands of free tutorials on the internet, nobody at all is stopping you from learning art other than yourself.
It's democratizing good art first and foremost. Secondly not everyone has time to waste learning how to draw, and now they don't need to.
>It's democratizing good art
lol
lmao
"good art" usually also means usable art, the stuff you're posting is mostly unusable for anything other than a low res impression and scrolling past
Post your art.
You first
That's what I thought.
Don't worry sir, I'll wait
>AItard finally feels like he's made something in his life when the ironic part is the AI made it.
That's like me taking a random pic on Google Images and saying I did it. Truly pathetic.
Literally "I accept your concession" tier response
speaking of which, i accept your concession
People are still freaking out over image generation models? They were a cool novelty back in autumn last year but there's far more actual utility in multimodal language models and attention networks for drug discovery/medical diagnosis. Funny how there's nowhere near as much outrage over ChatGPT "stealing" the work of authors as there is for Stable Diffusion.
It's just furry artists bitching that they can't charge thousands for YCH auctions anymore.
not really, they got gatekept and pushed out of every site they flooded.
but Ganker is not moderated, so the shills infest here with offtopic and trolling and nobody cares
A sci-fi mag site literally shut down it's novel submission after 17 years because pajeets are fucking flooding it with garbage to make a quick buck
don't act like you give a shit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/22/scifi-magazine-clarkesworld-artificial-intelligence/
how is the AI scene these days? has prompting gotten any better so you don't need to enter an esoteric strong of words to get a decent image? any good chatbots that aren't completely lobotomised? any advances to voice cloners since 11.ai?
sorry i'm late, bros
>you can use AI to make your dream game
>choose to play games made by other people and pay for the mtx
truly Ganker is a board for npcs
This guy gets it. Why would I play another game when I can just make my own? That will be the future, mostly.
Why make an ai generated game?
You ever play a level randomizer? they fucking suck.
Because it would allow me to create what I want.
Current image generators don't do written text inside images. One of the next versions of Google ai is getting the feature so it will make ai generated shitpost comics possible pretty soon, like next year or so
>Current image generators don't do written text inside images.
Yes they do.
I don't think you know what text is, Anon. Any computer can edge-find on a fucking logo and replace the red pixels in the lettering with pixels from another image, that's about as brainless as can be.
The systems can't CREATE text because they don't fucking know what words are.
>next year, sirs.
>Why would I play another game when I can just make my own?
So, enlighten on this nonsense; You want to play your own game, catered specifically to you and your tastes. And in fact, this is literally the single most important thing in your life, nothing means more to you than being able to play YOUR game made for YOU.
But. You can't, because you have no skills. You don't want to learn things, you don't want to make things, you don't want to do anything. You just hope that soon enough, if you wait around long enough, someone will use tons of money and tons of learning and tons of skilled programming and years of hard work, to create a system that will let you do no work, and just press a button and have your perfect dream video game made just for you delivered to you for free.
And then, you're going to say "I made this."
Is that about right?
Are you really going to cry about this for the rest of your life?
>Is that about right?
Yeah. Why not? As long as the product is good, who cares how it's made?
The thing is if i wanted an AI to make an RE1 clone with tank controls, there is no guarantee id even like it. A part of the reason i like it so much is the campyness and i really dont think the AI would make such hilarious cutscenes without somebody trying to force them in.
>The thing is if i wanted an AI to make an RE1 clone with tank controls, there is no guarantee id even like it.
And that's kind of the point. The reason AIfags are so brain-broken is because the ability to press a button and be given a billion randomly created images makes them all functionally worthless. When you can just endlessly scroll through them, you don't care about any of them, so you'll just scroll and scroll and scroll and eventually you'll just get to the bottom and hit Generate and have a billion more. None of them mean anything to you and none of them offer anything unique because of how disposable they become as a resource.
Imagine having a game and just hitting the Randomize button to get a new one. At what point do you actually stop and play it? You won't because it's barely even a game at that point.
>A game with fun gameplay that the computer creates
>"I'll play this, it'll be fun"
Wow, fucking top tier insightful thoughts from this smoothbrain right here.
bro, how the fuck would you know if the game is "fun"? Are you going to test it? How much are you going to test it? How much time are you going to put into testing each iteration that you generate in order to know if it's fun or not?
The same way the image is nice due to prompts, the game will be fun due to prompts. No one will use a shitty prompt for some boring game.
>the game will be fun due to prompts.
Fucking lol.
Ah yes, just type in "Computer, make me a fun game. Make sure it has fun gameplay and not bad, boring gameplay. Also make sure it has a good UI and good controls and not bad controls because those aren't fun. And make it have funny jokes and good characters because if not it won't be a good game."
>bro, how the fuck would you know if the game is "fun"? Are you going to test it? How much are you going to test it? How much time are you going to put into testing each iteration that you generate in order to know if it's fun or not?
And this differs from trying to find a fun game in your backlog of "hand-crafted games", how? Oh yeah, I don't have to indirectly give money to a gnomish trillionaire pissing his fortunes away on pozzing the world solely to fuel his BLACKED fetish. Sounds good to me.
Why are you posting human art?
Dream games cant be prompted yet so it still requires effort and filters everyone other than cash grab VNs. These people could have made asset flips years ago without AI but didn't.
>make your dream game
>you still have burnt out dopamine receptors and your dream game ends up being no more fun than all the games you complained about
>finally go find a new hobby like you should have years ago
I don't know man, these zealous AI enthusiasts just don't see the cliff and can't wait to jump...
they can see the cliff, they're just too retarded to actually stop and not jump
Anon, you honestly think that AI is more corrupt than humans? We are literally our own worst enemies.
Our purchases already inform developers exactly what we're willing to buy so they can maximize their gnomish tactics.
Chances are by the time we have an AI capable of all of that, games will be AI. Like literally will be. Why have code for a game when you can just have an AI keep all that information in memory and manage it as if it were the game. Do you actually believe theres any difference between code and an AI capable of producing code? An AI that could do all that would be considered an AGI.
Here's the thing about GPT-created "AI" images; They're a novelty. They don't exist for any reason other than just to satisfy a momentary whim someone might have of saying "Hey I want to see a picture of Jennifer Aniston in a Batman suit" or "Hey I want to see a scene from a fake Metroid movie" or "Hey I want to see a picture of an anime girl with 19 titties".
They're not art, in the sense that they are not expressing anything that any person actually feels or thinks. They're just a computer system categorizing words into a language model and then approximating a pixel representation of a response. They're not solving any problems or creating new ideas. And more specifically as production-related art goes, they can't actually solve any design problems either, because whereas a real person would be told "Ok we need some character designs of insect people that really incorporate the unique features of the insect species into their silhouette and body shape", because a computer literally doesn't have the ability to understand those words arranged into that sentence. It might be able to randomly generate something that might somehow end up kinda-sorta close to what a person might design, but it's purely accidental.
So if you want these AI-image systems to ever replace designers and creators, then you either have to A.) Lower your standards such that you don't actually care how wonky, broken, or inconsistent the generated designs are and just use it anyway because it's free, or B.) Hit the "Generate" button on your chosen software a million times in the hopes that with enough random generations, you end up with something actually good.
In either case, what you're doing is not creating anything of value and you should have just quit before even bothering.
kek
you're still here? i thought you were too busy crying, coping, and making excuses after getting btfo so hard.
If AI is so superior, why can't it replicate unique and soulful artstyles?
If there are any promptjeets left in this thread, I dare them to create a genuine, detailed pizza tower sprite, on the spot.
I don't care if you think the game is shit. Prove me wrong right this instant. Prove to me that you can make a pixel-perfect sprite and not anime woman #49324632.
They won't because they know it would it take hours to generate it and even more time to filter out the ones that have 3 arms.
I'll stick to cute elves but feel free to do it yourself bro, it's easy to get into.
So what does some retard like you do with these 10,000,000,000 worthless images you've made? I mean aside from shitpost on Ganker with them.
Do you just scroll through them on your computer every day? Do you jerk off to them? What is the goal here?
I have a twitter but I also just enjoy art that I enjoy. Another use is posting them on Ganker and making people like you angry.
>Has to lie about having a twitter to make himself feel better.
What a sad little Indian man.
🙂
>458 tweets in a month
Most posts have 4 images too. Lots of art.
't know what prompting is
>How are you this ignorant? There are books on the subject.
why not use an ai to summarize the book and post it here
Is the book called "How to generate the same shitty image of an elf in tight pants" by some retarded gay who thinks that Indians cooming themselves on Twitter is a replacement for real interaction?
How is Google Images any different? You type in the box to get what you want except Google Images takes seconds instead of hours unless you have a 4090.
He's so proud of his pennies but then again I'm sure that's alot of money in Indian currency.
I'd just like to point out that I'm a mediocre illustrator, and my Twitter has more engagement than this. And I don't even tweet more than 5 times in a week.
This dude literally spams thousands of AI generated images a month and his whole following is third-worlders.
now post how many likes each of your "drawing" gets
>the AI elf gay gets less likes people's drawing of anime girls eating ramen
>retweets shit from the pajeet stable diffusion CEO
That's not impressive at all since all you're doing is posting dozens of posts per day of randomly generated images that get less than a hundred likes each.
>i get 15 thousand follow-ACK
The funniest thing is, I see this guy all the time, and I thought he was just playing a character the same way tripfags/namefags used to back in the day. Just super committed to this one shitposting bit.
But it's not. It's literally his whole life. He's actually this same retard in his day-to-day, not just on Ganker.
That's fucking spectacular and extremely depressing to know, because holy shit do I feel sorry for everyone who has to know or be related to this fucking tard.
LMAO no wonder this gay always comes into every AI shill thread. That is just sad to see.
Dude runs a Twitter account where he spams low-quality AI generated images that get likes from bot accounts and foreign coomers who don't give a shit.
Talk about a fucking waste of time. Imagine being such a failure.
FF Tactics moron has been getting BTFO the entire thread. AI morons just continue to keep losing while being jealous of drawchads.
the fucking retard gives the game a bad name, fuck him
>got fan art
>won every argument
>laughed at the plebeian attempts at cyberbullying
>got stalkers who will help me post my art on Ganker
I won. It's too easy.
Nah bro, it's my art now since I actually sketched it. Keep coping with your 20 likes tho.
sounds like crying to me
everyone is laughing at how retarded you are, and you are proud of it
>March 9th
>AI still producing 8 armed monstrosities.
But i thought just 2 more weeks, sirs??
I'm saving this image for the next AI shill thread.
>these are unironically the fags that buy into this shit
and here I thought it was all just elaborate bait holy fuck
>Hands:hidden
>Signature: incomprehensible
>Background: nonsensical
>Yep, it's AI art
>I have a twitter
So you just...endlessly generate random images of elf women in bikinis and post them on Twitter? Holy shit, I'd actually kill myself if I was anything even remotely like you.
So you just generate and post random shit every hour with no intention beyond (you)s and twitter likes.
I DON'T accept your concession
hey, cool it with the anti-indian remarks
If only that was created by AI..
Except it's been 6 months and it still hasn't replaced anything, Pajeet.
>multi-industry changing technology gets universally adopted and perfected in 6 months
But please, do tell me why this fancy new telegram is oh-so worse than sending a written letter by carrier pigeon.
>2 more weeks and it will be good, sirs. Now keep generating more big titty anime girls
Hey can you have an AI generator make me a wojak meme?
>These nametags
Also, addendum: The only people who see AI-created images as anything other than a momentary visual novelty to scroll past, the people who are desperate obsessed with them and post things defending them, trying to say it's "democratizing art" or that "lol artists BTFO" or whatever other shit they come up with, it's all the same shitposts you see when someone pretends to defend a really shitty video game.
It's not real, it's a meme, they're pretending. But specifically, they're pretending by making sure you are well aware of just how little they care about the garbage. "It's good if you just ignore all the bad parts" is basically how every single defense of AI images as a concept goes. That's how you know they're pretending, because that's not a real thought that functioning people have in their heads.
Just have AI play the games too, a fully closed circuit.
Do take in to consideration you hardly get decent 'art' but more of a rendering of some subject with little real control with these models. You cant get decent consistent storylines going with same character models even. This will change eventually and then it'll be more usable maybe, but for now they are one shot attempts at something that must be still curated and potentially edited to be of much use. They'll eventually be more useful and be used as tools for artists. Laymen who generate thousands of images get blinded by the novelty of it and dont have skill to truly utilize the tech.
You can appreciate art without stories or with them. Most people do.
Almost like art has nothing to do with stories. Weird.
Artists lost.
Get over it.
What did we lose though? AI has been a disaster since it has started.
>Artists lost.
How? The US government literally just ruled that AI-created images can't be copyrighted, and that copyright can only extend to media created by a person.
So if you can't copyright AI images, then you can't own them, and you can't use them as any sort of business material, branding, marketing, or trade because literally anyone can take them from you and either impersonate your product or use your branding for their own stuff.
So how exactly has anyone who is paid to make artwork losing here?
For me, it's Okayu
I dropped Okayu ever since she dropped the tomboy gimmick for a generic high-pitched uWu voice to appeal to coomers. Fucking globohomo ruining our dreams again
I dropped her when I learned she was fat IRL.
I picked her up when I learned she was. Well, not literally, because... you know.
>not strong enough to pick her up
You don't deserve the chubby girls.
If I can pick her up, she ain't fat enough.
thats even better.
Is Inugami fat too?
Yep, both of them.
Your form is weak and it shows.
God image the hot fat lesbian sex they have
AImorons are truly the scum of the earth.
https://wonderdynamics.com
dropping this in for fun
you thought the current state of movie slop was bad? you have no idea how bad it's going to get
Now I can make a Hollywood-tier film from my couch; this is going to lead to the death of the film industry. You can literally just make John Wick at home in a room with green walls, now minus the gnomish slop writing.
The film has to be good for people to want to go watch it, if it's AI garbage, it will just end up like a Youtube video with less than 1k views.
If you can shit out 100 1k view youtube videos over a few weeks that's 100k views
>How do people look at all of this and think it's a good thing for games?
Because games are fucking dogshit now lad. Oh no, an ai will create some shit that is catered specifically to me instead of sheckle garden gnomenstein who despises the medium and industry but wants to rip you off harder than is possible in any other medium and thus only makes stuff that caters to the widest possible base of normies with brain dead design because thinking is not what the widest audience want, they want gratification and to "complete" the thing with no thought or level of competency required so they can talk about it and fit in
> Oh no, an ai will create some shit that is catered specifically to me
moron you can't even make unity tuts how do you think you're going to piece together AI generated assets into a game
>how do you think you're going to piece together AI generated assets into a game
With the AIs help.
>thoroughly proved you wrong but then you start babbling
lmao.
you thoroughly proved that you dont understand your own tools or have never used them. img2img is not text generation
And you outed yourself as a retard if you thought that was img2img.
Most Gundams I've seen around the net were from Wing.
it confuses me because it's clearly this exact image it looks funny as hell
They're retarded, they're hoping the entire game will manifest before their eyes while they sit back and eat Doritos.
It will happen. Games and art aren't so different.
good morning sers
please redeem the AI
That implies we get real AI.
Reminder, AI and VR are marketing terms used by pajeets to lie to normies about how advanced search engines and motion controls are(they aren't). Real AI and real VR are decades away, if that.
You may not like it, but that's the truth.
Sounds like they're already using AI to write plots for videogames.
elden ring 2 miyazaki btfo
Sounds like Forspoken, a game so uninspired that even the villain looks AI generated and the game flopped hard.
sounds more exciting than 90% of modern vidya
>I can't think of a game where i play as a hero fighting stuff in a mysterious land
what the actual shit
Big tech will soon limit AI otherwise it will lead us to dystopia
Already sounds like the plot for Kingdom Hearts.
anyone over the age of 25 understands the potential of AI
you need some growing up to do if you feel threatened by progress lol
Why are retards here acting like computers have peaked and will never advance ever? There's no way that, within the next millennia, we're not getting an "automatic game maker" machine.
>b-but you'll be dead!
One, you don't know that. Two, you said it was impossible. You didn't give a time limit. Fact is, EVENTUALLY, technology will be able to create anything you can imagine, and it will be as available as any household item. Unless you LITERALLY think that technology will peak in 2025 or some shit, and we're just gonna spend the next 5 billion years jerking off until the sun eats us.
AI cant create matter. Its stuck in the digital realm. Ill be impressed when houses stop costing so much money. Also the hell is the point of an automated game maker when there are millions of games you could pirate?
>Transhou Tranime
Fuck off tourist moron
beggo
beggo
beggo
Pure unaltered offtopic retardation
How the fuck Ganker got so low?
AI is making me money.
Coding is fucking lame I'm totally fine with an AI doing all the code if it doesn't break. I can just do the shit I actually want to do myself like the assets
Based I got that record. Even met up with Dan, great guy.
Take solace in the fact that even if ai ends up making everything, video games will be the very last thing to go. They contain elements of every artform and more
>most ecchi of hoe-boive
>i have the most wholesome fantasies about her
More often when i wanna fap to marine i just imagine lovely dates and a happy life
I guess its over for me
>be foot fetish artist
>ai will never replace you
There's a real nice lora for feet called implied blowjob or something like that. I can't post any of the images here though.
Bro those are fucking disgusting, and also the ears are backwards.
yeah the others were much better. I tried censoring one of them but got banned anyway.
>I tried censoring one of them but got banned anyway.
Yeah because no one wants to see your garbage foot-fetish AI anime bullshit.
That looks like complete shit, AIfags once again proving they have no taste.
Did you intend to have ears that are backwards along with feet with only 4 deformed toes?
post more Marine
No post Subaru instead of the hag
no
AI chuds all want to stop the idea of them creating and enjoying creation, but the problem is:
You weren't creative
You didn't put in effort
There is nothing human in it to appreciate
Thinking ai won't touch story writing and design is copium. Slowly ai profiles will take over the internet over human ones because they will enjoy things better than you too. You will be a useless bag of flesh waiting to be phased out by the next ai optimization update.
>You weren't creative
>You didn't put in effort
>There is nothing human in it to appreciate
All wrong. Cope and seethe.
Ask an AIfag for their prompts. They will get upset because they are afraid of "prompt stealing" and are afraid of being mocked at how the prompt contradicts the final image.
My favorite part is that most of them don't even understand what they're writing in. They just spam names of different artists who are super-skilled, and then throw in random shit like "masterpiece" "8k detail" and the names and fucking focal lengths of camera lenses for FUCKING DRAWINGS, when they have no idea what that shit even means.
For me it's the bullshit of how ai posters come to different boards saying shit like:
>AI got better! Img2Img and Controlnet can fix errors!
But if you go to any of their generals, you'll see that they can still only post images where characters' hands, eyes, legs, arms, ears, feet, hair, and clothes are stupidly deformed.
why is there somebody itt just spamming random unrelated images
is the intent for somebody to say "haha this looks like ai" and make an epic gotcha
why not just samefag a response, it's the same thing as generating one
>unrelated
do you know where you are?
some AItards tend to falseflag, I'm just posting Marine on a Marine thread
To be fair I think the anon that wants to make his own dream game via AI is retarded for over-simplifying the process and not being able to express his idea better, but his idea is not completely ridiculous. Imagine a future where technology is so advanced that an AI assistant can fulfil the roles of writer, modeler, programmer and every needed professional for a full AAA game creation. Your role will be the ''idea guy'', the showrunner, LA CREATIVIDAD. You would still need to provide a clear consistent vision and playtest and rework your inputs A LOT. 99,999% of people would just prefer to play a finished product made by someone else instead of putting in the work. Yes, the work, it would still require a lot of it if you expect a half-decent result. But if he thinks he would just press a button and say ''AI, make fun dream game'', yeah, he's retarded.
>ctrl f pajeet
>18 hits
Pajeetschizo works fast
>How do people look at all of this and think it's a good thing for games?
yeah let's keep creating bad things for games
What the fuck is this shit?
-new art-
Her tit on the left is becoming inflatable, I can't believe "Anton" is actually retarded enough to post that.
It seems like the opponent threw a red bowling ball into her armpit thus dislocating her shoulder.
>cross-eyed elf wizard trying to do school work with deformed hands and a double sided pen
Must be a special ed class.
Why do homosexuals fixate on the most irrelevant aspects of coomer pictures?
Well, they're gay.
Excuse us for not being attracted to women with derp eyes and corpse hands.
How is that a fucking coomer picture? Who the fuck is going to jerk off to a random anime image of some cleavage in an otherwise basic-as-shit normal picture?
Son what the fuck. There's literally actual porn for free all over the internet.
You will never be a coomer.
>tits the size of her head
Porn addict.
So because an image of a female character has big tits, you literally are required to jerk off to it? Like there's no possible way for you to just not do that?
>So because an image of a female character has big tits, you literally are required to jerk off to it?
Yes.
Based coomer.
>6 fingers on each hand
>not jerking off to cleavage
You are impotent.
>AIfags can only call people gay for not liking deformed women
holy fuck..
are those...
BOOBS? AWHOOGA AWHOOOGA *steam out of ears* huminahuminahuminahumina
KEK this MS Paint post has more soul than any AI slop posted in this thread.
>and a double sided pen
Spotted the zoomer that never learned how to use a compass in elementary school
She's not drawing circles...
>witch
>not learning how to draw magic circles
She's literally not fucking drawing circles.
She has drawn a fucking square with the compass tool.
>pencil has an eraser
>SHE IS LITERALLY NOT ERASING
autism
that is not a pencil
I repeat: autism
you're back at the original issue
why use a compass for writing notes
>use it as a pencil when writing
>use it as a compass when magic circle-ing
Do you still carry a flashlight, mp3 player, and digital camera as well?
>Do you still carry mp3 player
yes
She's not fucking drawing circles. There's literally not enough room where she's placed the pencil to make a circle.
If it's a compass with a removable pencil, why not use the pencil?
If she's drawing magic circles, why is none of the notes on the image about drawing magic circles
why is she suddenly switching topics to draw magic circles in the middle of her notes? Nothing about it makes logical sense because it's an AI hallucination.
Burgers are fucking crazy.
Stellar Blade
>How do people look at all of this and think it's a good thing for games?
hacks will deliver shittiest of shit which will purge all the scams as only labours from passion will succeed
Real people that use AI to create stuff don't call themselves artists and couldn't care less about your personal arbitrary abstract concept of ''art''. You're being trolled and having your fragile egos exposed. Please stop embarrassing yourselves.
They could care so less that the AI shill Anton had to brag about his 20 likes while posting 100s of AI slop a month.
>They could care so less
How ironic.
Don't tell them.
the idea that only the ai posters are teh mastre tr00ls and that ai posters can't be getting trolled is funny as hell
But "trolling" by acting like you're a retard is just sad. That's not trolling, that's just being an idiot.
somebody fucking pencil sketched and had a poster mad enough to post his twitter likes in an e-peen measuring contest. said poster has been in the thread for literally 4 hours
Someone trolled an artist to post shitty art, then baited dozens of people posting twitter stats.
KEK Anton is still assblasted over getting BTFO I see.
Stalker-san acting tsundere. Now that's funny.
>AI elf fag is now pretending that he hasn't been trying to shill his twitter account everywhere
What's funny is that for all your posturing about AI images being so great for social media, you still get less social media engagement than people who post scribbles or share their pictures of food.
>schizo posting
At least put some effort into it.
>How do people look at all of this and think it's a good thing for games?
Nobody sane looked at the gargles of women, third worlders and other diversity hires and thought that'd benefit anything.
It just happened.
But AI won't go online to boast how it ruined a favourite franchise of mine.
>But AI won't go online to boast how it ruined a favourite franchise of mine.
I bet it will.
I hope it will do more than that.
why care about franchises when you can generate your own original ip?
marine is actually in her early 20s the whole cake fetish is just another layer of roleplaying
>aifags are proud to submit pictures of elves with garbled eyes and hands.
but she has big boobas
big boobs will grant me at least 30 likes!
Fatty
I just want the holodeck fantasy bros
then perhaps dont bait your /vt/ thread with ai garbage.
mods dont care its offtopic anyway
>I love it when elves have their hands melting into their pants while wearing ANVVVNVVNVIS brand shirts.
>deformed 3 fingered hands
>midget shins
>eyes that look like they're suffering from an infection
>a t-shirt with pockets
>AIfags actually think this shit looks good and will call you gay or a "seething artist" if you don't
thats was nice thread mods, keep it up
I've bought a 4090 the other day specifically to create AI porn of anime girls exposing themselves in public. Also to play video games I guess.
A true man of the 2020's.
Please call yourself an artist. It makes the deviantart retards around here seethe uncontrollably.
>Also to play video games I guess.
What a waste
>"I keep these images to post on Ganker to make people mad"
>"These shit elf images are art"
making people mad on Ganker is an art
ergo, keeping you here posting here for 6 hours is an art
A multi-faceted artist.
>>"I keep these images to post on Ganker to make people mad"
>>"These shit elf images are art"
Where's the contradiction?
There's no contradiction, they're points to make the conclusion in the third line, you fucking retard
Chris-Chan has been mentally raped to the point of not being able to form coherent thoughts anymore, please understand.
>AI shill gets dunked on and doxs himself.
>They're all just mad I tells yuh.
Uh huh, coping for 6 hours must not be good for your health.
i'm making fun of the elf poster, genius
It really is just too easy.
7 hours
I like Ganker.
you could have drawn something yourself in this time and maybe been proud of it instead of just spamming avatar images
AI art is better than drawing.
if you get the last you, will you be happy?
take it.
He will, it's to make up for his lack of likes on his tweeter account filled with 8 armed elves.
you gonna be ok anon?
Anton coping to the very end. You hate to see it folks.
drawslaves malding fr fr
I felt a little bit like this and then I tried ai and realized it sucks lmao
The future is now, sirs!
It's not even real ai. It's just automatic Photoshop. It doesn't draw anything or make any pen strokes on its own. The system just molds and melts several images together which is why the small details are often so melted looking without definition. It can't distinguish these things. It will never be able to correct these either since the system has no ability to redraw lines on its own and has to make do with its repository of images with which it patches and melds together to create the final product. Of course 99% of produced images look terrible and the retard pajeet then needs to select the best 1 out of the bunch that doesn't look too ridiculous adnauseum.
Of course pajeets have no sense of art or soul so all the ai gen images look the same and are still fucked up and easy to spot lol despite them thinking they selected the best one out of thousands.
The real issue are actual artists who use ai to generate their images then correct the dogshit features the program cannot deal with like fingers and small details. But why not just draw it to begin with?
It is AI, that's why it's called AI. It draws better than people do too so why would you draw?