>300 years in the future. >the Colt 1911 is still in use. >performs better than most future weaponry

>300 years in the future
>the Colt 1911 is still in use
>performs better than most future weaponry
literally the most based pistol ever made

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's also 10 times more aesthetic, why can't bethesda make weapons that don't look like shit?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the guns in Starfield are fine, especially when you compare them to the travesty that is Fallout 4s guns

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Fallout 4
        That's an unfair comparison, when you live in a crap house, your weapons naturally look like crap.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Guns looked just fine in FO1/2, no need to defend bethesda's incompetence

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          New Vegas weapons were fantastic. It's just Bethesda having shit design sensibilities.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >New Vegas weapons were fantastic
            Lol no
            And obsidian continued being shit for the outer worlds where they look horrendous

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Lol no
              New vegas weapons selection is excellent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i see you saved my picture. i am glad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like that the guns have different manufacturers. Too bad the manufacturers themselves aren't as present as the ship companies. Maelstrom is a bit odd since it seems like a pirate company but you see plenty of non-pirates with them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maelstrom isn't the dedicated pirate company, I think it's just because they're cheap. It's not like the Bandit company in Borderlands where they are literally making dedicated weapons for mooks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Make a 1:1 copy of a real life gun
      >Still fuck up the trigger/trigger guard
      Bethesda's incompetence really does know no bounds.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats because it's not a 1:1 copy. Guns are the same as cars. The designs are copyrighted. For instance, Rockstar doesn't make cars for GTA look like real life brands but with slight changes because they're incompetent, it's to dodge copyright laws. Same with Bethesda and these guns.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the 1911 is public domain though. also browning didn't collect royalties on any of the guns he designed for the government because he considered them patriotic contributions.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats because it's not a 1:1 copy. Guns are the same as cars. The designs are copyrighted. For instance, Rockstar doesn't make cars for GTA look like real life brands but with slight changes because they're incompetent, it's to dodge copyright laws. Same with Bethesda and these guns.

            It's so you can pull the trigger with space suit gloves you idiots

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they didn't have mechanical engineers sitting in a room and going through an iterative design process that took years to develop guns
      instead they had like 5 calarts grads and a diversity hire discussing in a single meeting why this concept art for a tree they found on reddit would look cool in their game

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3 world wars
    >2 galactic wars

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still in use
    what a stretch

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >300 years into the future
    >boomer FUDs still obsessed with it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Trying to fud 1911s by saying only boomer fudders use them but uses the wrong version of "fud"

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It just werks.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anon the 1911 is still in use today...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And is today 300 years in the future? Fucktard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is over a hundred years since the 1911 was adopted and it is still used.
        Most modern pistols still use the short recoil system of the 1911.
        Pistol slides are older than 1911(and technically precedes what browning did with the FN m1900) and they are still used in everything.
        Single shot-double barreled shotguns are over 150 years old and they are still used.
        Knives are as old as humanity itself and it is still used as tools and weapons.
        If something is still mechanically sound and still useful it will still be made and used unlike say the fucking Luger P08 or a Pepperbox.
        If well maintained, guns that are over 200 fucking years old can still fire.
        Reproduction copies can fire guns.
        You are a fucking idiot that is hung up over nothing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          my buddy swears by springfield's 1911, it there any reason i should get a colt over a springfield?

          >New Vegas weapons were fantastic
          Lol no
          And obsidian continued being shit for the outer worlds where they look horrendous

          >Lol no
          explain. they were dogshit in ow tho

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really, unless you just want that pony on the side of your gun. Old Colt was unsurpassed in the quality of their production 1911's, but they aren't what they once were. Just pick whichever appeals to you more, they'll be functionally identical unless you get a lemon of course.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              fucking rad thanks. i really want the springfield mil-spec 1911 for my first gun. another friend just got an anaconda (colt maybe?) and i can't wait to shoot it, told him i'd pay for the ammo. my friends took me shooting for my first official, lol time last year and it was rad as hell.

              does starfield have revolvers?

              >performs better than most future weaponry
              >43 dmg
              shipcels...we lost...

              will mods fix these retarded ass designs?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                may i suggest, a derivative of the 2011? any of the super high spec and reasonably affordable double stack 9mm 1911's now made by many manufacturers. doesn't have to be an 'actual' 2011 from the STI guys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And is today 300 years in the future?
        from 300 years ago?
        yes
        now 1911 wasnt 300 years ago

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >anon the 1911 is still in use today...
      No it's not, the fuck are you talking about 45tard?
      Beretta mogged this monofilar 8 round magazine trash 20 years ago. Bethesda setting as usual are lazy and uninspired as fuck. Cyberpunk 2077 blows its design and art out of the water

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't hear anything but a 9mm piss baby crying.
        Unless you're a 10mm man. Then I agree with you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a .38 Special kinda guy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >20 years ago
        Bro, we’ve had double stack mags before 2003, and it wasn’t beretta that did it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1911 is still in use today...
      wrong, it has been completely phased out decades ago. it's just amerimutt boomer retards that have that crap with them for show

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it has been completely phased out decades ago
        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/iconic-1911-pistols-are-finally-gone-from-marine-corps-service
        This year actually. Unless Marines don't count as human beings.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Muttmarines always keep old trash for years and years. It doesn't mean that the 1911 platform isn't outdated garbage already 60 years ago

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >1911 platform isn't outdated garbage already 60 years ago
            Pistols and Submachine guns are outdated concepts that served no point in warfare even when the M9 was phasing out the 1911.
            The average M4 is going to have more value even indoors than a pistol.
            Pistols still being used in service is a scam much like the scam that is the "new standard" rifle caliber

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9mm kills the body 45acp kills the soul

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the origin of the line anyway?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ?si=A_IWW08JECdVUkys
        not sure if its from somewhere else but i heard it from badger. his tabg videos are fucking hilarious if you're into yt crap

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based on what?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    actually tempted to buy this piece of shit game now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LUDOKINO
      IN
      SPACE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For the love of god just Pirate it first.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9x39mm superiority

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where to find ammo for this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Centurion Arms. Take the NAT to Residential and walk straight forward away from the NAT.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wtf I don’t know there are weapon shop in Residential District, in thought there is only UC distribution

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've installed a mod that lets me craft ammo with lead and copper at industrial benches, helps with the ultra rare calibers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          honestly the fact that this isn't in by vanilla is fucking retarded
          can make advanced space age electronic equipment
          but guns and ammo that vodka soaked slavs could produce by the millions in the mid 1900s? Impossible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the guy on neon with the robot named styx has some, his ship is on the left hand side of authority trader

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        visit every shop and then sleep 24, repeat

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So starfield really is just an asset flip game?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    John Browning is the god of war and the patron saint of violence.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kalashnikov spent the dying years of his life wracked with guilt over the guns he created.

      Browning worked to his last breath designing cool new guns, literally keeling over dead at his workbench.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What did Eugene Stoner do?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Swimming in the money from royalties

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Meanwhile Sullivan is still alive and designed miracles like the Ultimax 100 and the SureFire MGX that are machine guns that have near zero recoil.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Kalashnikov spent the dying years of his life wracked with guilt over the guns he created
        Nah, he helped design the 100-series rifles. Lurk more nogunz gay.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bethesda sucks so much at weapon design in Fallout 4 they just copy irl weapons now
    ....lazy.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's hard to find ammo for it. It's cool but I can't use it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No ammo crafting or perk to make ammo? Lame. So how is the game?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also no weapon mod swapping like FO4, or buying attachments like scopes from vendors like NV

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buying ammo is fine because money is very plentiful. I made a concerted effort to not horde money and it feels pretty good to buy anything that catches my fancy

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >performs better than most future weaponry
    >43 dmg
    shipcels...we lost...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I got the other sniper up to like 426 damage. The one with 5 rounds. Hard Target, I think it's called. Only one I think I could get higher is the magpulse one, but in my 80hrs I've only picked up a single one, and it was a white basic version. Playing on very hard, too. Sucks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >80hrs
        i mean i'm 37 hours in and only have refined and advanced weapons (lawgiver is refined), i assume that there will be stronger weapon tiers. i think hard target and the lawgiver have pretty much the same dmg tho because they use the same ammo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think it's because the RoF and default mag count is lower. I didn't fully mod up a lawgiver to compare 1:1 outside of unmodded, though, so maybe they're closer than I think.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah but what tier is your hard target, advanced, superior, what

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They were both advanced when I compared them unmodded, I only modded the Hard Target.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weapons are just references of real weapons.

      When was the last time we had scifi weapons that was cool?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        District 9.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When video games was at its peak soul

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >new weapons are just iterations of old weapons
        humanity has been doing this for centuries, it's not that hard to believe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cyberounk 2077

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Metro unironically has better guns than CP2077 and it's all slav-junk. I'd even put Starfield above 2077

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ok retard, we can tell you didn't play it

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cyberounk 2077

              Cuperpunk has that really cringeworthy talking AI gun, Staefield doesn't, thus Starfield wins by default.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I did you fucking moron. Spastic webms are not about the weapon designs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cyberpunk guns are great, seethe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron, do you want me to outline how retarded that gun looks and operates?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                feel free to go ahead but the gun looks cool and you'll just make yourself look like the autistic retard you are

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the Kriss Vector feeding mechanism
                cope

                Reminded me of this

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the Kriss Vector feeding mechanism
                cope

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                when did the Vector become the meme gun that's in every game now anyway

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the kriss has been a mainstay in games for over a decade, it's a testament to its design when a lot of its "futuristic" contemporaries have been forgotten
                good riddance to those too, if i never have to see that atrocious g36 again it'll be too soon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You say that when Starfield literally has their own version of a P90, the original "gun of the future".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The funny thing about these webms is I do more impressive stuff that wows people all the time and the moron that makes this stuff has to memorize a route and save scum and he still has no grasp of what looks cool.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >weapons are just references of real weapons
        No shit. Humanity always copied and recycled same ideas, and polished them by adding something new.
        >When was the last time we had scifi weapons that was cool?
        Cyberpunk 2077 and Destiny 2 have lots of scifi weapons that look badass.
        If you like retrofuturism with mix of reality, then Atomic Heart and Fallout New Vegas.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I got an advanced regulator in a level 5 space station on mars and it does 100 damage, it's so ridiculously broken at this level I have to not use it on purpose.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Old world hunting rifle
      What absolute madman went out hunting with a Vintorez

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not gonna spoil anything but one of the main story missions later on in the game, personally my favorite mission, I found this gun and got so excited. I like to hoard old earth artifacts and store them. Funny cause there's actually a brief side quest about two friends who like to collect earth artifacts.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Game has good gun models, variety is ass though. And there's only so much you can do for garbage gamebyro combat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >variety is ass though
      there's like 30 different guns, if anything the roster is excessive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No idea what people who say this are on about. There are like 40 guns in circulation in Starfield. Compare this to Fallout 4 where you had about 10, and many were just variants of one another.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's more of a relic. It's like using a crossbow in modern war.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is carrying me hard
    But it does like no damage to terrormorphs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they have a lot of armor, I think you need stuff with armor penetration

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please circumcise your weapon it has phimosis.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    John Browning crafted the perfect pistol, like the blueprint was handed down by God himself. .45 chads keep winning, even centuries into the future.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still in service
    why? are there drugged up flip jungle space men in space?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how do i get swag? i want a gf.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        First step is to take a time machine to before covid when people actually met each other.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          still happens here in my city. just not with me 🙁

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Second step is to drug women so that them "liking" you doesn't even factor into it 😀

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              but then she wont love me :/
              what do you do?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          mass effect did a pretty good job as scifi guns

          >before covid when people actually met each other

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >before covid when people actually met each other
          you have to go further back than that. try any time before 2007

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are there drugged up flip jungle space men in space?
      Yeah but the liberals at MAST get shitty if we call them that so everyone just calls them Spacers

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the clip acts as a heat sink in a vacuum

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >clip

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i love the magshot
    thing is broken and works well with a space cowboy build

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Mag- guns are the most busted weapons in the whole game. I've never seen a gun deal 900 damage before I picked up an Advanced Magsniper - that thing one shot headshots Starborn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      does it count as silenced?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, and it cannot be silenced. That is its one drawback.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's actually shit
    Play the game OP.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3 WURLD WURRS
    I like how they put random speed holes in the frame and the safety notch is too far forward to actually engage it.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is a stupid moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey! You're a stupid moron.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that gigantic trigger guard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can’t own guns
      >”expert”

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The funny thing is that because of his job he is probably one of maybe three or four people who aren't in the military or registered dealers in the UK who could get the super special LOICENCE that would in fact, let him have some guns beyond shotguns.
        I doubt he has it because the museum will be covered by the museum firearms licence which is way cooler and basically has no restriction beyond "you work for a museum"
        Which is another loophole. There's a few "I work as a curator of a train (and firearm) museum" stories.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what now big boi?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        finally a mech-compatible 1911

        now if only Starfield had mechs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bethesda didn't get the memo that they could just copy paste the 1911 in the game without any legal trouble so they made it look sort of weird but still familiar

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        now it's french

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      possibly 'winterised' for use with suit gloves and shit? plenty of IRL guns for people who expect to be using snow gear etc have big oversized guards.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't bare metal on metal for moving parts a terrible idea in space?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Solvable with the proper bearing surfaces or lubrication between metal parts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lubricant in space
        yeah

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this just reminds me that guns in cold weather just start spitting liquid when it gets hot enough

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still waiting on pic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my bro

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really don't understand the fetishism behind the 1911 or the .45 ACP. By World War II it was already determined to be completely ineffective in real warfare and was replaced in rear echelon troops by the M1 Carbine. Most law enforcement had even largely replaced it with various .357 Magnum Revolvers by the mid-20th century until the rise of the Wonder 9s in the 1980s.

    The "muh two world wars!" shit was always a Fud myth. The biggest contribution of the 1911 was its overall design that ended up being the basis for handguns moving foreword, but it wasn't even John Brownings first slide operated pistol The .45 ACP was chosen over a retarded meat carcass test of dubious efficacy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1911 is pretty

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you'd ever shot one you'd understand. They're incredibly easy to shoot accurately and the ergonomics are excellent. Any gun that feels great and is easy to be accurate with will always be popular.
      Also keep in mind the time period it was introduced. At that time most semi-auto handguns were extremely finicky and their ammunition anemic. A handgun that was extremely reliable and consistently lethal was revolutionary at the time, especially one that could be easily mass produced. Law enforcement continued to primarily use revolvers due to both tradition and not wishing to appear too militarized by using the military's handgun.
      The 1911 isn't and never was a primary weapon to win wars with. No handgun is. Ask anyone who's had to use it to defend themselves in a combat zone however, and you'll find the vast majority were highly satisfied with its effectiveness.
      >tl:dr
      It's great to shoot, very accurate and it kills shit dead.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never fired a 1911, I have however, fired an M1 Carbine, and its probably my favorite rifle of all time to shoot. Very lightweight for its size, very reliable, .30 Carbine, while not the most powerful round in the world, is still screaming out that barell at 2,000 fps. Its a perfectly pragmatic round for a perfectly pragmatic gun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They're incredibly easy to shoot accurately and the ergonomics are excellent.
        I felt this with my FAL
        yet the video game world pretends it doesn't exist

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The FAL is criminally underused in games.

          >it kills shit dead
          handguns suck at killing akshully

          Yes they do compared to rifles, but the 1911 sucks a lot less than most others. Were he alive today, I'm sure Alvin York could attest to that. He killed multiple German soldiers rushing his trench with less than seven shots.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it kills shit dead
        handguns suck at killing akshully

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >> handguns suck at killing ackshully

          only if your retarded

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The reason US developed M1 carbines was because of a giant report that analyzed a ton of combat experiences backline troops had with their issued 1911 and they realized 1911 are not very good at hitting or killing stuff. So they made a lightweight semi-auto gun with a stronger caliber than a handgun but weaker than rifle. Something to give to arty teams, tank crews etc. to defend themselves.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, the 1911 is no substitute for a rifle or carbine as a primary defensive weapon in a war zone. No handgun is. A handgun does offer several advantages over any long gun though. These are especially important in close quarters fighting and use by special forces.
              >Much smaller and lighter than any carbine
              >Can be operated one handed quickly and easily while restraining a person, grappling, moving an object etc.
              >Much easier to use in extremely cramped spaces
              >Preferable to use in linear corridors with potential friendlies/hostages, less risk of overpenetration
              >Effective for deep concealment in operation using disguises and subterfuge

              Every gun has its place, and the handgun will always be useful as a compliment to a long gun.

              >no handgun is
              Even the Single Action Army?

              Nope, lever action rifles and shotguns won the West.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A handgun is preferred when riding horseback since you can still hold on to the reins while firing. Hence, the SAA being so popular with pretty much everyone.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Handguns have their uses yeah, they're easy to carry, that's the main advantage. Not everyone needs a bigger gun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no handgun is
        Even the Single Action Army?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The 357 is still a pistol round, it is no better than the 45 unless you are wanting to punch through car doors. 9mm only achieved prominence through capacity combined with the fact most law enforcement (especially back then but even to this day) have less firearm training than the average gun owner, and so they need every single round in the hope of hitting and stopping a threat. The 45, like every single pistol round that travels less than 2,000fps is fine, and there is little actual discernible difference between them when they hit a human body. Quit being a tribal-round gay; carry and shoot what you are most comfortable and accurate with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The 45, like every single pistol round that travels less than 2,000fps is fine
        Its worse, most .45s are subsonic, that was actually one of its biggest limiting factors. Subsonic ammo is fine if you're shooting supressed, but energy transfer squares with the velocity, not the mass, which is why 5.56 is so devastating despite only being a 55gr projectile. .45 ACP was never that great of a round, it just took modern ballistics to prove it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if velocity is so great why don't you own a five-seven? even psa makes one now so being poor is no excuse anymore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've been considering it anon. Its between the PSA Rock like you said, a Deagle in .357 Magnum, or a Mini-14 but I still haven't decided

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a sidearm meant to be used when nothing else will do of course they'd give the base/camp staff a carbine instead

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Menace II Society

    >Kek being called a revolver in the game
    Bugthesda always never cease to not impress when it comes to weapons in there games.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the non-historical guns in starfield were AI designed.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Ganker so insufferable?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bethesda games attract Ganker autists like no other, every fucking game they act like todd personally raped them in front of their parents because "the sword was too wide" or "this bolt actually goes here on this gun"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Starfield actually has the less ergregious gun designs of any Bethesda game. I think they were getting sick of people bullying them for the retarded Fallout 4 designs.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >300 years into the future
    >humans are digging tunnels rather than machines

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is there any point in owning a 1911 if you already own a double action revolver, they seem like basically glocks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The 1911 is a single action pistol so every time you pull the trigger it feels so crisp and light. You have to cock the hammer yourself on your revolver if you don't want a 10 pound trigger.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait you have to cock the hammer every time wtih a 1911?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no retard, its a semiautomatic. Semiautos have a lot of advantages over older double action revolver designs. In a double action revolver, pulling the trigger both cocks the hammer, rotates the cylinder, and drops the happer, the more machinery you have the trigger perform, the heaver the trigger pull is going to be. Semiauto pistols don't have this problem, all the trigger has to do is drop the hammer/firing pin, since the slide and spring loaded magazine already do the job at chambering the round for you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh i have a glock and i hate it, wish i could trade it for a 1911

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only once, the slide cycle also cocks the hammer every shot after that. It’s “single action” because it’s not the trigger that’s doing it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh okay thanks so it does need to be cocked (once) to be fired

            are they easier to shoot than glocks

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its honestly a stupid thing. Imagine someone writing a novel in the 1700s about how in 2023 the M1752 Musket is totally being used you guys, like totally, tech never advanced.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tech never advanced.
      Except tech has stagnated in guns.
      Companies are more interested in making toys like this side mounted magazine fed Bolt action rifle

      ?si=8dGBP5AcRHHqumZl or expensive gimmicks for an expensive gimmick round like the brief 5.7mm craze that did not go anywhere.
      Take a look at experimental stuff the "next generation" standard rifle trials made and the shit that won just looks like a suped up AR15 to the average joe.
      End goal of weapon tech is using the least amount of moving parts possible for production efficiency, maintenance, and because the average soldier still eats crayons while still being able to reliably hit and kill things from far away.
      And we have reached that point.
      Nothing outside of the invention then adoption of cheap caseless ammo will change much if any and even then guns won't change much visually.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tech stagnated in guns
        ENTER

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a gun thread, no shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, thats just a 9mm pistol. Its a pistol with great build quality, but its still just a 9mm

          Firearms really don't need to "evolve" anymore. There is physically no better way to tranfer energy at distance than throwing mass at high velocity. We've already perfected guns. Smokeless powder is the most efficient propellant for the job, we have firearms and calibers built to such high tolerance that they're accurate to well over 1,500 yards, thats already well beyond what a normal human is capable of unless its in a controlled enviornment from a rifle bench.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just a 9mm pistol
            Get your hands on it, it doesn't even shoot like your average 9mm.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gas delayed blowblack
          Something that existed even in the 1940s, and that pistol is not the first to use it on pistols.
          >fixed barrel
          come now. Even the Desert Eagle had a fixed barrel.
          >the slide
          a gimmick.
          May as well praise the Desert Eagle since you could mount shit on it too.
          Nothing in that gun disproves that tech stagnated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LOW fixed barrel mind you

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >gas delayed blowblack
              Something that existed even in the 1940s, and that pistol is not the first to use it on pistols.
              >fixed barrel
              come now. Even the Desert Eagle had a fixed barrel.
              >the slide
              a gimmick.
              May as well praise the Desert Eagle since you could mount shit on it too.
              Nothing in that gun disproves that tech stagnated.

              More handguns need fixed barrels. And the Desert Eagle is a great pistol if its chambered in a more practical and less expensive round like .357 Magnum or .44 Magnum

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >slide that doesn't jostle back is a gimmick
            wat

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I personally love the Loredo Lawgiver. In fact, the only decent looking "future' weapons in Starfield are the Loredo ones like the Coachman

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's too fucking curvy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the point is that they're meant to be .50 caliber sporting rifles. The design reminds me of target or olympic pistols/race guns like the Remington XP-100

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh shiet, I forgot about those. I think someone at Bethesda is a gun nut.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Big futurist Utopia
            >there are gun stores literally everywhere and nobody seems to care
            No doubt in my mind someone at Bethesda is a gun nut

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>Big futurist Utopia
              are you fucking stupid? it's nowhere near a utopia

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's nowhere near a utopia but his point is right, UC are supposed to be authoritarian but there's no firearm laws whatsoever, it legitimately fucks with my immersion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Authoritarianism doesn’t require restrictions on weapon ownership. Honestly I don’t get authoritarian vibes from the uc at all though, it feels like they’re supposed to be a star trek federation stand in.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe not but when the other faction is supposed to be explicitly liberty focused it comes across a bit weird they aren't more restrictive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats so it can feel like firefly if you wanna be a cowboy. They are themed factions, if you look closely none of it will make sense and you start to get people asking what the dudes in megaton eat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It has a california compliant rifle stock and as such belongs in the trash

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the Beowulf makes sense as a gun design at least.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Give me the QRD on utilizing long barrels when you're traveling space. Shouldn't everything be compact?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          From a comfort standpoint? Sure. But longer barrels increasing velocity is still a thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When you're working in places that is not using Earth's atmosphere, comfort trumps velocity. I think it would go about like how battle rifles were phased out.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >how battle rifles were phased out.
              Now they are coming back using .277 Fury in 20 round mags
              "Assault rifles" are the ones that will be phased out.
              Trust the plan. Invest in SIG

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where's the mag

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          top lloaded similar to a P90

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh wtf, I guess the feed is from the front of the mag instead of the back like a P90

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>300 years in the future
    >>the Colt 1911 is still in use
    better than most future weaponry
    way to shit on your own worldbuilding just to please some fudds

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who needs technology when you have a gun

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You is my moron

    Starfield is still garbage and you couldn't pay me to play it.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly surprised Bethesda never added references to the Russian TP-82, since that was a gun that actually did go to space on Cosmonaut missions. There are plenty of other references to the Soviet Space program, like one of the planets being named "Gagarin" but I guess I shouldn't expect anyone on the team was even aware of such a niche firearm.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's your MTR-8, bro,

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    80hr gameplay and I still haven't found one of these.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your space dad gives you one at the very begining if you have the kid stuff perk. You need to visit them first and tell them you're with constellation, then later on you'll find them at the Lodge where your dad tells you his engineering buddy gave it to him and he just got it sighted at the range.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pistol deals 41 damage
    >assault rifle deals 6 damage
    Subhumans who work at Bethesda are inept

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is an assault rifle?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but the STG-44 is technically the only "true" assault rifle if you really want to be a pedantic retard. Its where the term "assault rifle" actually comes from

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .45 STRONK
    IF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY GREAT GRANDPAPPY TO SLOT FLOPPIES ON MARS THEN IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When do I actually start getting guns with bigger numbers? None of the weapons I've found have bigger numbers than the very first ones I found and I'm... level 17 or something.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never. At some point you'll start getting exact same copies of your guns but with boosted damage but that's it. Bethesda sucks at weapon progression

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm 60 hours into the game and there's guns I still haven't seen yet, which is something no Bethesda game has really done before.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apologize.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You first.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Craft them if you really want to have a muh special gun. I wouldn't even want to put points in combat due to how trivial the game gets when you get guns at a certain point where it just practically instakills anything.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are all rifles bullet rifles or you can have lazer rifles?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can have lazer rifles as well, they just aren't as good/cool

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's very hard to find good energy weapons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I love the orion. It looks like something from a 90’s laser tag place.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so sad it's too weak

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it has 9 bullets. A laser pistol has like 24, does nearly as much damage, and goes pew pew.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a bug or did I do something because when I go to the well in Atlantis there's that gun shop and I can just steal everything and the guy just walks around me looking at me but does nothing, what the fuck?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's too impressed and paralyzed by your Chadlike confidence to do anything about it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's on the house, friend.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How viable is using a .410 as home defense?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Brit detected, you got a loicense for that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shotguns are good even birdshot is lethal if you get close enough. Buckshot is nasty i’d be scared of it going through walls. honestly best is probably just glock 9 for home defense.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bruh birdshot from a .410 isn't going to kill anything bigger than a fat squirrel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you going to stand up right away after getting blasted in point-blank~living room distance most likely 2~3 times in a row.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how much pcp am I on? seriously though a guy I went to high school with had a huge scar on his chest from getting dick cheneyed. he said it made a fucking mess but didn't even knock him out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At 5 feet or less it would.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shotguns are good even birdshot is lethal if you get close enough. Buckshot is nasty i’d be scared of it going through walls. honestly best is probably just glock 9 for home defense.

      Are Chainsaws good for home defense.
      Just have one in your closet. And when you hear a bump in the night, just rev it. I'm sure even a hoodrat with a glock problemsolver will think twice.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"detras de ti imbecil!" revs up chainsaw

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not actually good at killing people (the chain would snap on bone or get clogged with flesh)
        but crazy effective at neutralizing people.
        Just like how pumping a shotgun is also terrifying, a chainsaw is 10x more terrifying. Absolutely nobody, even someone who is armed is going to fuck around and find out what a possible death by chainsaw is like

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people use .22LR for home defense, a .410 is probably fine

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >been asking for a toggle aim option since fallout 3
    >they finally add the two lines of code and put the option in starefield
    >nice, can you please add it to fallout 4 as well?
    >no fuck you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no fuck you
      The "cinematic" VATS kill was an option you could disable in Fallout 3.
      They didn't put that option in Fallout 4.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay I have to admit space battles only ever get fun if you are outnumbered. Shit's tight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the game needs is more large scale battles like the Crimson Fleet quest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      space battles are weird, it doesn't feel like you are piloting anything

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Play it in first person

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my bae

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks really cool except sci-fi gun makers still don't understand that one of the revolver chambers have to be int-line with the barrel (I assume this one has a six o'clock barrel because the upper thingy is too thin).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        each chamber holds 3 rectangle bullets

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh huh

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dont think about it too much

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I really like Beth weapon designs in this one. Didn't like them in FO3 or FO4 but here most guns look neat, even if a bit silly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the mag weapons look incredibly uncomfortable to use but then maybe they're just made to be used while wearing a spacesuit or something

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like how they look the most 'nasapunk' out of all the weapons, almost looking like powertools

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the mag weapons look incredibly uncomfortable to use but then maybe they're just made to be used while wearing a spacesuit or something

              post right above yours

              upping pistol and sniper/rifle with these makes you almost unstoppable

              Post heavy weapons, preferably rotary ones.

              this is pretty stronk too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh shit

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand gun nerds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never got gun nerds until I got my first gun, now I understand the ways

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there are no charge guns? the only thing i liked about fo4 was the gauss rifle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post right above yours

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post heavy weapons, preferably rotary ones.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wish 40mm ammo wasn't so rare. most weapon vendors dont even stock the ammo in the first place and then when they do its like 8 at a time

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield seems have spent eight years working on gun modifications and food texture modeling

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the loot system is buttfucked unsuprisingly
    i found an "advanced urban eagle" super early that has been significantly stronger than any and every gun i have seen since
    i assume it is because they place non-randomised/leveled loot in certain instances but man is it a whole load of gay to finish a long quest line only to be given vendor trash

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't please everyone. Weapons being leveled to you means complaints of not being able to find desirable things, overleveled weapons spawning early means complaints of things being too easy or there being no incentive to use other things, homogenized performance means complaints that there is no progression...

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .45 huh?

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so how are energy weapons in this game? I'm tempted to just stick with upgrading ballistics so I can deal some damage even if I don't spec into every weapon type (pistols,rifles etc.)
    Not sure if there's a way to reset skill points

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The only pump-action shotgun is the old earth one

    I don't mind the look of it, it's a classic, but I kind of wish there was a more futuristic option for pump-action. The Pacifier looked like it would be but nope.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HEHE YA KNOW THESE KIDS DON”T KNOW WHAT A REAL HERO LOOKS LI,,KE LEMME TELL YOU BACK IN MY DAY I SAVED MY WHOLE SQUAD WITH NOTHIN BUT A 1911 .45 ACP DURING A TRAINGIN EXERCISE
    —————————————-
    Maurice “stingray” Dickson
    1979-1980 USMC DEVIL DOGS OO RAH
    1981-1983 Sioux Falls VA organizer
    1983-1885 American Legion treasurer
    “Whoever trades freedom for safety deserves neither” - our founding fathers
    “Run forest run!” - tom hanks
    “We don’t dial 911 we dial 1911”

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I found a photo of you sir

      The funny thing is that because of his job he is probably one of maybe three or four people who aren't in the military or registered dealers in the UK who could get the super special LOICENCE that would in fact, let him have some guns beyond shotguns.
      I doubt he has it because the museum will be covered by the museum firearms licence which is way cooler and basically has no restriction beyond "you work for a museum"
      Which is another loophole. There's a few "I work as a curator of a train (and firearm) museum" stories.

      I don't get why he even bothered to make a YouTube channel, he's just a worse version of ForgottenWeapons. It feels so contrived, like he just made it in an attempt to convince the rest of the world that British gun laws aren't completely fucked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HEHE YA KNOW THESE KIDS DON”T KNOW WHAT A REAL HERO LOOKS LI,,KE LEMME TELL YOU BACK IN MY DAY I SAVED MY WHOLE SQUAD WITH NOTHIN BUT A 1911 .45 ACP DURING A TRAINGIN EXERCISE
        —————————————-
        Maurice “stingray” Dickson
        1979-1980 USMC DEVIL DOGS OO RAH
        1981-1983 Sioux Falls VA organizer
        1983-1885 American Legion treasurer
        “Whoever trades freedom for safety deserves neither” - our founding fathers
        “Run forest run!” - tom hanks
        “We don’t dial 911 we dial 1911”

        well fuck me I forgot to post an image. I guess I'm the real Fudd now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To advertise the museum he works for. That's it anon. I don't know how that was so hard Ian basically got started because he conned the auctioneers into somehow thinking people would watch a youtube video to preview guns at auction and come buy them.
        Funny thing is I bet in both cases it probably has drummed up some business.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It helps that Ian is essentially responsible for the pump and dumps that is affecting guns. Hes like that metal rock jesus, spins up some shit for a video, has a few copies of the gun, jacks up the price and makes a killing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what's the point of advertising the museum though when it's not even open to the public?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Naw, Ian isn't even associated with RIA anymore anyways, his channel got big because he legit shows off cool obscure guns and gives history lessons and disasembly tutorials. There is nobody else that fills his niche.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's 300 years in the future not 100.000 like in Halo.

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