>a good RPG instead of just a good Pokemon game
they need to do this again for real, remaster it and sell it back to Switch owners maybe?
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I completed it to get Ho-Oh on Emerald. Found it boring.
Colosseum is extremely bad and it’s so weird seeing people nostalgia for it
it's not nostalgia, it's just a preference for actual encounter design rather than "press A to win until the gym requires you to catch a water type" and a story which isn't an excuse which the developers themselves don't give a single frick about
Dude come on the story is just “dark Pokemon” which every fricking game at that time was doing with a nonsensical surprise villain and the gameplay is only hard if you are unfamiliar with Pokemon just like mainline games. But unlike mainline games it doesn’t benefit from the fun of building your own team and map design is basically tiny areas crammed with shitmon trainers
>which every fricking game at that time was doing
yeah but nothing does it now, it's a product of its era, a time capsule, to a better time
Coliseum sucks so fricking hard. The battles are so painfully slow, slowest animations in any fricking rpg ever made, horribly ugly graphics, and the story is ass like all pokemon games.
Coliseum might be worse than the modern games.
that describes gen 3 in general. colosseum did have some kickass music though
Emerald is one of if not the best pokemon game though.
Just shows how bad mainline Pokemon games are
I've always described it to people who've never played it as the best 25% of a finished game in the Pokemon series.
XD is worse with its near constant ambushes.
>XD
extremely bad is still better than the trash Gamefreak shits out.
>genius sorority actually animated its eyelids
gamefreak has just made every pokemons pupil turn into a line since gen 6
They also made unique sprites for shiny pokemon, as in they actually posed them differently.
Part of me thinks Pokemon Company won't remake or re-release Colosseum because it will make GameFreak look bad.
They even made unique icons for asymmetrical Pokemon, instead of just lazily mirroring it.
yeah, they'll definitely make game freak look bad with the shorter and more linear campaign than literally every pokemon game while also having drastically fewer features on top.
More =/= better
All the Pokemon game are pretty linear. Colosseum was very linear, yes. That doesn't necessarily mean it was worse off for it. The game was more story driven than past entries. I'm not saying it was better than the classics, but compared to today's games? I'd rather replay Colosseum than anything on the 3DS or Switch.
>More =/= better
Yeah, instead Colosseum is less and worse.
>That doesn't necessarily mean it was worse off for it
The reasons to have a linear a game are 1. story or 2. difficulty. Colosseum has neither. The story is as dogshit as any non-gen 7 game and the difficulty is the same "click A with the same pokemon the entire game to win" garbage
>and worse.
Explain why.
I also forgot about being able to play one-handed in XD because you can move using the c-stick.
Only gens 1 and 2 have any non linearity to them
Why do most of the shinies look angry?
>They also made unique sprites for shiny pokemon, as in they actually posed them differently.
>Part of me thinks Pokemon Company won't remake or re-release Colosseum because it will make GameFreak look bad.
So it's the Sonic Mania of Pokemon? Ironic, since Mania took fans to make a good game, while Seniority wasn't fans to make a good Pokemon game, or maybe it's because they are fans of RPGs in general.
>or maybe it's because they are fans of RPGs in general.
Supposedly they worked on Dragon Quest.
heh
these sprite images are still amazing to me years later
>pure disgusted zubat
>chad shiny meowth
>shocked and confused weepingbell
>voltorbs contempt
>the original pogchamp shiny magikarp
>crazed shiny sableye
>guffahing wailord
> maximum derp shiny kyogre
The Hoenn mon models mogged the frick out of the dated Stadium models of the Kanye and Johto mons, especially Kanto’s.
Literally the only problem is the animation length.
yeah, it's ridiculous that animations and effects still take years to go through even in 2022. Do we really need to wait for all this crap?
The moves themselves are pretty quick in the newer games, it's all the extra shit that drags it on, along with them being incredibly lazy. Every turn in Colosseum takes about 30 seconds to complete.
This is like the max number of interactions in a turn, insanely cherry picked
And honestly if this happened to me as a kid I would have been hyped lol
>this is okay because I say so
whatever chud. The only thing keeping colloseum from being literally perfect(as far as a standard pokemon game could ever get) is an animation skip button.
That's a pretty big concession considering it probably wouldn't be anywhere near as annoying if the battles weren't so numerous, which is a fault of the game at large.
>if the battles weren't so numerous
There are no random wild encounters. Every trainer you beat is a trainer you never have to fight again, and there aren't a ridiculous amount of trainers. The long animations and unintelligent and inefficient turn execution(that still plagues the series to this day) just make it feel that way
>wouldn't be anywhere near as annoying if the battles weren't so numerous, which is a fault of the game at large.
It's bad that there's battling? I don't get your point. I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure there are less fodder fights than there are in the newer games.
Honestly, pokemon is several decades late on putting in an intelligent turn execution system. Status effects should apply and make themselves known as the pokemon is hit and their HP bar is going down, same with everything else that needs to be told to the player.
And frick everything that's done one-at-a-time, that shit should be grouped up. There's a sandstorm? Hit all vulnerable pokemon at the same time, don't tell me
>a got buffeted by the sandstorm!
>b got buffeted by the sandstorm!
>c got buffeted by the sandstorm!
>d got buffeted by the sandstorm!
Gamefreak is shit for not fixing this basic problem.
FRICK affection
Frick the mandatory affection BDSP forced on you anyway. It's less that it makes the game easier and more just the annoyance of the animations.
>toughed it out so you wouldn't feel sad
They really could have worded that in a less infantilizing way.
.....how...????
Are you forgetting these games main target audience is literal children????
fricking manchild.
>target audience is literal children
Not entirely true. And just because your target audience is children doesn't mean you need to bust out the cringiest lines that even children would recoil from
thats the same argument bronies used to justify them watching a cartoon made for preschool girls, and it still doesn't sound any less pathetic.
Pokemon and horsefrickery are two different things.
Grown men can have grown up on pokemon, but only the gaygiest of men grew up on my little fricking pony.
Pokemon has beautiful women like Jesse and Sabrina, my little pony has nothing but sparklegay horses.
Pokemon is a JRPG with a hyper autistic competitive scene, my little pony is nothing but a cartoon and merch line.
Pokemon is at its heart a shounen adventure, which appeals to a more masculine nature, while my little pony is nothing but a troony circlejerk about feelings and gender identities.
It's certainly childish to be a grown man and make pokemon the core of your identity, but simply liking pokemon while being a grown man is nowhere near the same as liking a glorified trans groomer cartoon
>main target audience is literal children
that shit aint bussin pham
no cap localizers should know better
on god
If you want battles to be faster, just turn off the bad animations that take up time.
turning off animations doesn't fix the problems in the webm. There's a fundamental problem with how gamefreak executes turns: they all revolve around a constant barrage of notifications that have to be mashed through.
Even if turning off animations actually turned them all off, you'd still have to sit through constant pauses as Gamefreak's shit engine tries to process a burn and tells you steelix took damage from the burn.
Yeah, but the main problem as been mitigated, that being the poor animation, turning that off doesn't fix the problem completely but it does make battles faster than they would be otherwise.
>poor animation
The animations in colosseum weren't poor. It's not the animation's fault, it's the game's horrible turn execution that's flawed.
The fact there's still a problem even in spite of animations being turned off shows Gamefreak is doing something horribly wrong. There are easy middle grounds to keep both appearance(soul) and function intact that Gamefreak is too incompetent or unwilling to reach.
>The animations in colosseum weren't poor
Yes they were.
No! You aren't supposed to show that one!
That's one (1) frame, show the entire animation.
The game does not have separate flying idle and standing idle animations, correct.
Still better than just not showing them
No worse than gamefreak.
Bad animations and not being able to skip animations are two different problems.
If the animations suck then that's a problem of quality.
If you're autistic enough to only play pokemon for its raw gameplay, then yes you'd want to turn off animations to speed through your easy child's game.
But there's a third problem you're overlooking: the fundamental battle engine being slow as shit, even in absence of animations. It takes longer to get through everything than it should, both performance wise and communication wise to the player.
you got me. let's see if game freaks fixed that problem 20 years later.
You can't even turn animations off in colosseum and it sucks ass. Autists complain about the animations not being good enough in 3D pokemon games, but tbh the actual problem is just not being able to turn them off. Its at its worst in the gamecube games when it's double battles only and you need to sit through four animations a turn.
It's funny, the music is so good I never cared about watching animations.
It's got a really nice style to it, that's about it though, a real slog to play through.
No, i played it recently and its great, the only flaw is that its slow
See pic related. Both GameFreak and its bootlickers hate Colosseum because it's actually good.
I have quite literally never seen a good argument for why Colosseum is good, let alone decent.
>play pokemon game
>explore routes while fighting trainers
>explore caves while fighting trainers
>go through dungeons while fighting trainers
>tied up with gym battles
>play colosseum
>walk around giant empty towns
>no routes
>dungeons amount to glorified hallways with a shit ton of trainers in them
>trainers have nothing but shitmons
Do you see the difference, moron?
This is quite literally the entirety of Pokemon Colosseum, please defend it.
Yeah and how long does that shit take
Not long at all.
One of these has less of a focus on story, routes and caves to explore and gym battles and is a fricking Gameboy game.
The other is full of padding at every step of the way.
Not saying this isn't wrong, but these sites are such nonsense. Saw that Skyward Sword was 40 hours to 100% but I did it in 26.
>can beat Pokemon red glitchless with only your starter in maybe 3 hours
Damn... Such a long game...
It's a short game. And? You act like it's a mainline title. Why are Pokedrones so moronic?
>It's a short game. And?
It's short and padded out the ass.
>You act like it's a mainline title.
It's priced like one and you moronic Black folk keep claiming it's the best thing to happen to Pokemon as if it is/should be mainline.
>Why are Pokedrones so moronic?
>homosexual defending Colosseum calling anyone else a drone
>short and padded
Oxymoron.
Anon, of course it was 60 dollars on release. It was released on a home console. Why do I even have to explain this? How do you feel about Stadium and Battle Revolution being full priced titles too? Oh, who am I kidding, you've never played either of those games, just like how you've never played Colosseum.
Gamecube games were only $50.
not everywhere.
They were in the only place that had $60 games.
now im really confused.
Colosseum was the most fun I had playing a Pokemon game
Not gonna lie I've never finished Colosseum since the purification is kind of annoying, but >XD is pretty good for a pokemon game. Kinda get the joys of pokemon but with an actually GOOD gimmick that makes it uniquely fun.
I wish Gamefreak would get a clue from it instead of just inserting random meaningless battle gimmicks hoping for it to do something.
It is but it had a better idea for Pokemon. Pokemon was always darker since Gen 1 and it's been clear the womenfication of it is a mandate from TPC that wants marketable plushies over actual game quality.
The worst part of the Seniority games is balance and localization. Otherwise, it's the correct direction post Gen 1.
nu-machop unironically looks better. I've always been weirded out by machop's saggy old man chest
>Saggy old man chest
They're ribs.
I don't even like Machop much, but you have some supremely shit taste.
All of them, ignorant morons, unaware that the reason recent games are shit is because Game Freak hired these homosexuals.
GameFreak shills should get hanged.
>80% of the useable mons are johto shitmons since they need a way to impliment gen 2 into RSE since there was no cross-gen trading
playing through Colo is an absolute slog, havent played GoD so maybe they fixed the distribution
XD has way more shadow pokemon and it gives you a lot of good ones early one. You could build a good team within the first third of game, unlike Colo where the only good Shadow Pokemon for first 2/3 are the starters and legendaries.
I always kinda liked how Colosseum forced you to use a bunch of Johto shitmons with awful movesets. Figuring out creative ways to work with what little you had was a neat little challenge, and the idea of a badass ex-Snagem member using a team with fricking Dunsparce and Skiploom was always pretty funny.
>I always kinda liked how Colosseum forced you to use a bunch of Johto shitmons with awful movesets.
I legit don’t remember what Pokemon I used in that game AT ALL I think I used Espeon and Suicune for everything.
For me all I can remember is Quagsire
This honestly, people only say it's good because it's "different".
I never got far in it as a kid. Recently played it and enjoyed the frick out of it. No nostalgia.
Horrible taste
shit taste redditor
Wouldn't go as far as calling it extremely bad, but if it didn't carry the pokemon brand, it would be forgotten.
For what is worth, it doesn't feel as lazy as some GF games, in fact, it doesn't feel lazy at all. But sometimes a good effort doesn't translate to a good product.
i mean, shit, its not even that good when compared to RPGs up and down the river, but the mere fact it respects your ability to do basic thinking as a human being and asks you to at least strategize a little bit puts it far above a lot of other pokemon games
one of the main examples that comes to mind is the lab portion where each encounter has some variant on rain dance+thunder teams, and predicts some of the more common counters to the strat and asks you to overcome it
i personally disliked XD more than Colo because they threw so many basic b***h encounters at you, threw so many shadow mons at you, it became tiresome really quick
it felt as if they saw colosseum keeps you slightly underleveled for most of the game, and became absolutely fricking terrified of not having the player be overleveled and thus just spammed weenie battles at you
the first hour or two alone was just a slog of spamming A over and over and over, they somehow made the lab, a cool thing in the last game, one of the worst experiences
608071353
>remaster
have a nice day disgusting sub human
yeah, upscale the textures using AI, and add some post processing effects. make it modern, use raytracing on charizard's flamethrower, ect
Was pokemon X D better
gameplay-wise yeah, but the protagonist is really lame compared to edgelord and tummygrill from Colosseum
for sure
I've not long finished it and quite enjoyed it. Very battle heavy, so I did kinda miss the other elements of traditional pokemon games, but it was pretty fun
no, its only positive point is the purification chamber. adding more shadow pokemon ruined it more than anything. the game is fine until the shadow pokemon factory where they start spamming them and the game grinds into a tedious slog.
The purification chamber made things a little too easy, but it's preferable than walking into a corner in Agate Village.
I liked how there were more shadow moves.
that's true, more shadow moves too. they're forgettable but at least have more flavor than 'kill myself rush'.
Both games have something good going over the other, neither are perfect, but I'd still rather play through Colosseum.
kill myself rush was based though
>non elemental crit hit and just leave your shadow pokemon in their hypermode
At least you have the option to kill some of them since miror.B will show up with them later.
Masuda will need to die for tht to have a chance of happening
Do you ever think they do this shit out of pride?
I mean BDSP seemed almost deliberately sabotaged because they didn't want anyone upstaging them.
>First battle at the outpost with Espeon/Umbreon
They could not have started that game more perfectly, the animations were smooth, the music was great, the opening sequence got you hyped for the MC. Also the only time double battles were fun.
The composer is still thinking about the game in somewhat recent time at first (4 years ago uploaded this). Don't think we'll ever get a remaster sadly, but it's a pretty good game.
Pokemon is pretty simplistic for an RPG, but doubles really is the patrician format. A lot of the trainers in the game had some semblance of a strategy, even if it's kinda basic for competitive Pokemon.
On a side note, The Under's theme FRICKS
I live for this kind of shit.
Anon that's not Pyrite Town
Love me some Pyrite Town. Love me some Under. Love me some Semifinal Battle. The whole soundtrack is a gem. Apparently Tsukasa Tawada wrote the majority of it in like 2 weeks.
These games had FRICKING AMAZING MUSIC.
Anons who know what this thread is fricking about:
Anon who is extra fricking based:
>the under has been filled in by the time of the sequel
>we never get to go back there.
I never got a gamecube as a kid and missing out on Colosseum hurt. I'd been playing Pokemon on the gameboy since day 1, played the shit out of Stadium 1 and 2 on the N64 but I never got a look in at Colosseum. What's the actual format of the game?
>top-down running around areas sort of like mainline pokemon, except they're connected by an overworld screen instead of routes.
>no wild pokemon. Every battle is a trainer double battle.
>boss fights are the admins of the local criminal syndicate instead of gym leaders
>some trainers have shadow pokemon which you can catch in the battle with them.
>almost all trainers can be refought endlessly
>starter pokemon are a pair of level 25 Espeon and Umbreon, skipping the shitty tackle/growl earlygame
It's good
>pokemon game
>but you can't catch anything except johto shitmons that are pointless to use
>and the entire game is linear
>and the game lacks a frickton of options and features mainline games have
>and all the characters are ugly and look nothing like pokemon
>and you're forced to do double battles where can't even turn off the slow as frick animations so you're forced to watch almost a minute of animations every turn
It's shit
>johto shitmons
frick that video for calling gen 2 as worst gen of all time and frick you for believing it
johto pokemon always felt like the shit not good enough to make gen 1 outside of a handful
>>a good RPG instead of just a good Pokemon game
It's a bad RPG and a bad Pokemon game.
I don't remember being stopped in Pyrite town so twin tails could go on a 20 minute cutscene gushing about sand malasadas
The entire game is being stopped and being forced to go down a straight line.
No it just had moronicly slow gameplay where every move takes 10 seconds to execute instead
You're free to stop what you're doing and travel to other areas whenever you want in colosseum
I don't remember Colosseum having tutorialized gameplay.
you can make this argument without being a hyperbolic wojak posting sperg.
I came into this thread to basically post the same thing. I really like both games, but it seems strange when people shit on USUM for adopting a more typical JRPG structure while pining for Colo/XD. I think people who say USUM is all tutorials didn't actually play very far into the game, and colo seems like a kind of popular game to just shill without having played it in a decade+.
>shows up to your battle and literally just wants to dance
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
que ritmo
>You can't make a memorable villain in pokemon unless you make them literally morally moronic tier
>Minor B.: Hold my beer.
top fricking ost
Colosseum and XD are peak pokemon interms of difficulty and challenge. It was doubles format , trainer battles are 90% of the content and the ai cheated in hilariously blatent ways. Like you could have a fire type out and then switch to gligar and the enemy trainer would use icebeam on the same turn you switched as if it predicted you
You can beat the entire game just with the Umbreon and Espeon it gives you. I don't understand why people call it harder than the mainline games.
You cant only beat it with those two through a ton of grinding. Even then it comes down to luck or item spam as the final boss has a scizor that sweeps through even your level 90's in 4-6 turns
>Colosseum and XD are peak pokemon interms of difficulty and challenge
click bite/toxic
click psychic/reflect
win
gen 7 was harder and it's not even close
I beat Moon with a NFE mon on my team and no exp share.
You've clearly never attempted that challenge
>H-HOLY SHIT IS THAT A SCIZOR!?
>click reflect
>click bite
>click psychic
>scizor is dead
oh....nice challenge, game
Scizor kills lv 75 espeon in 1 shot and level 78 Umbreon in 3 shots even with reflect so what level did you grind too?
Gen 3 rules anon. Scizor ain't shit
Thats what happens though.
Only problem I had in 7 was the fused necrozma fight. It kept oneshotting and outspeeding everything on my team. Only problem I had in 8 was Leon. Same problem. Oneshotting and outspeeding my pokes. Other than that, smooth sailing.
>the enemy trainer would use icebeam on the same turn you switched as if it predicted you
The AI picks a move after you make your own. This happened in the mainline games too.
Extremely boring games. Still more care given to Pokémon animations and music than current mainline games.
The game is bad, but that's why it need a remake.
Just implementing the changes from Gale of darkness and gen 7 would improve the game marginally.
I just wish they would give us 2vs2 battles in a main game again.
I wonder if there will be more double battles in the new games because of co-op
That would be a cool way to do it but I suspect they are just going to use their new real time raid battle system for the coop stuff.
I knew this game was going to be an outlier in Pokemon even on release when it began with you fighting some fricker at a truck stop with two Eeevee evolutions. Nothing since has ever been that original
ludo
These games sucked dick and a dykg video won’t change that.
gamefreak wont allow it to happen it made them seethe so fricking much
Gamefreak has gone on record saying there will never be more games like this. They're salty as frick that they were so good and they didn't make them. Colosseum and XD are STILL better than any attempt at a 3D game they've made. They look better too which is pretty hilarious considering the newer Pokemon games have better console specs to work with.
The fact their jealous incompetence is why we're never getting another PMD, Ranger, or some other new spinoff is downright depressing. Frick the talentless hacks at gamefreak holding back the franchise
The shitty phone games don't count
>it makes gamefreak mad
is that true?
see
Game Freak bought Genius Sonority out just to make sure they'd never make another Battle Revolution or another Colosseum ever again. Then they proceeded to force them to work on mobile games instead.
Battle Revolution sucked.
As a game. Still the best Pokémon looked visually
Noticed that BDSP had almost nothing from Platinum, use DP shitty world design and looked like shit. That cause Masuda directed the original DP
>Dressed up as Wes for school dress up day
>Painted a white line across my face
>Made the snag machine out of some cardboard tubing and painted it
>Get to school
>No one knows who I am because I'm the only one with a gamecube
Felt bad man
i turned the volume off during the miror b battles
>>a good RPG
Pic unrelated?
Colosseum was where I dropped pokemon.
Finally we got a 3d game on a real console and what did they do with it? Fricking NOTHING. It's just a game boy pokemon game but half as long or interesting. Frick this game and frick Nintendo
My favorite part of Colosseum was walking down empty hallways while being bombarded by Trainers with literally nothing but shitmons, leaving you underleveled for the final battle unless you grinded on Mt. Battle which was slow.
Colosseum was fricking garbage and I'm tired of you Black folk thinking it's somehow the best thing to happen to the series.
The game is absolutely short as frick and that's not even before you take out the endless padding.
The absolute entirety of the game is
>talk to npc
>tells you to talk to other npc
>walk down long hallway 'dungeon'
>bombarded every two seconds with trainer battles
>they literally all have nothing but shitmons that are easy to defeat and yield extremely low EXP
>do this a few times
>get to the end
>suddenly the final boss has a decent team at a decent level
>either luck out or grind
>game done
The fact that the game starts your Pokemon out at level 25/26 and gives you a fricking legendary at the start too shows how poorly planned out and balanced it is.
Holy shit, you're actually complaining about the fact that there's random trainer battles in a fricking pokemon game. Go back to /vp/ and stay there.
random trainer battles are literally the worst part of the series. They're pointless filler content where you do nothing but mash A repeatedly. Trainer battles are only worth a shit in postgame facilities or PvP.
This is part of why PLA is so good, they stopped focusing on the dogshit pointless npc battles and more on the actual collectathon and exploration parts.
>mash a repeatedly to win
you've never played Colosseum.
That's literally what Colosseum's gameplay is. You click A with Umbreon and Espeon or Espeon + one of the OP legendaries the game hands you and you win for free.
The only people who think Colosseum is hard or strategic are the dumbfricks who are moronic and wasted exp on all the johto shitmons at the beginning of the game and then wondered why they're underleveled.
The real secret to victory is using Plusle.
Compare Colosseum to any mainline pokemon game. You cant just faceroll the entire game with your one starter
>You cant just faceroll the entire game with your one starter
Yeah, you do it with two.
>You cant just faceroll the entire game with your one starter
In Colosseum I can. In USUM I can't.
Wow le hecking ultra nekrozma is such a difficult fight, good thing my pokemon loves me and will randomly survive hits it shouldnt and get extra crits for no reason because of the power of friendship.
Doesn't thst only happen if you groom them?
>ultra necrozma is kino
fify
>Wow le hecking ultra nekrozma is such a difficult fight
this but unironically
>legendaries
So let me get this straight. You deliberately went out of your way to lower the difficulty curb by equipping THREE fricking legendaries on your team, and now you're on Ganker seething about how easy the game is? What's wrong with you? This argument wouldn't even fly on /vp/.
>This argument wouldn't even fly on /vp/
He'd have a hell of a lot more responses
>NOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY LIKE A moron
not an argument
How is it not an argument? You put one, not two, but THREE legendaries on your team on your own accord, knowing that it would make the game a cakewalk because the game was too hard for you. Most people don't even use one while playing mainline titles, you literally set the game on easy mode because you got filtered.
Maybe you belong on the /vp/sub
To think you were so confident in your argument not even five minutes ago.
>How is it not an argument? You put one, not two, but THREE legendaries on your team on your own accord
>game gives you tools
>uhhh ACKSHUALLY you're not meant to use those, see what you're meant to do is equally train out every pokemon on the limited story battles with low-exp yeilding shitmons with no wild pokemon and then grind at mt battle until they're all at a decent level 🙂
I accept your concession. Stop samegayging btw, the IP count hasn't gone up at all.
You have to beat the bosses in the game to get the legendary dogs, and then you still need to purify them, you're pretty far into the game by the time you've caught them all.
Do you use box legends to beat the mainline games? There you have a master ball and don't have to fight someone to get them
Don't even bother, he's literally never even played the game.
>Grinding is bad, so let me waste five hours on Mount Battle purifying legendaries
You got 3 time flutes, and could just master ball glitch them.
Y-you used the time flutes right away instead of saving them for a pokemon you like and the Tyranitar?
3 dogs, 3 flutes.
>Literally glitches the game to give him more time flutes and master balls
>"Heh...this game is easy!"
Anon why do you bite the most lowly bait?
Unironically poe's law. That anon is being dead serious.
He real isn't, his greentext is clear,
I wish this was the case, but Pokedrones seriously believe these moronic opinions. Read the whole thread. That same anon got caught in a lie and is now on damage control. Feels good being an Orre GOD
It's called making your own fun. Are you the exp share autist?
>PLA was so good because I could take in all of those empty fields and glitching grass clumps unmolested
kek, PLA was a good game but not for this reason. I have no idea what the other anon was thinking. Pokedrones will shit all over Colosseum and Gale of Darkness, but defend garbage like SwSh. I love all the cope ITT over the fact that a fricking battle sim with a storymode tacked onto it at the last minute BTFOs every almost every Pokemon game past the DSi era.
The Sword and Shillers FEAR the Orre region CHADS
In the last month this game is getting tons of threads. What happened?
this happens every time there's a new mainline on the horizon because terminally online pokemon detractors that will talk your ear off about how charizard didn't deserve a mega need to hold this game up because it wasn't made by gamefreak.
What is interesting is these threads also have an adversion to the sequel, making me thing they were 6 year olds who's parents never got them the second game.
I had coliseum and my friend had xd and i thought xd was offputing almost entirely because of the protag looks like a gay compared to wes
But you know that was because your were a kid right and you don't think that now?
I dont think about pokemon at all now but i did cherish stadium, coliseum and gen 4 for what they were
Never played xd longer for 20 mins at his house and my coliseum disc is cracked like everything i owned on gamecube besides the incredibles video game because kids don’t treat discs well
DYKG covered it in a new video so now a bunch of zoomers can pretend they played it.
>tfw slowking used skill swap
>Slaking used Earthquake
What emulators
Colosseum had the potential to be thee GOAT pokemon title but was held back by Gamefreak and Nintendo in general.
A more standard RPG pokemon catering to older audiences is exactly what the series needed. No homosexual ass 10 year old kid fighting gym trainers and catching wild pokemon 11 games in a row.
Colosseum just didn't have to budget to be amazing. XD was plain dogshit as a followup. I thought with the Switch Nintendo might try another Colosseum-like game now they're not limited to shitty handheld hardware but nope, Gamefreak is okay to spam the same and tired shit over and over because the majority of Nintendo fans are soulless bugs.
>mfw friend finished the game and didn't know what to do with the mons
>you can transfer the mons off to gen 3 games after finishing the game
>transfer some random ones into my sapphire
>couple of years later buy leaf green
>borrow friend's GBA to transfer all my sapphire mons to my leaf green
>later buy DS, transfer all my mons to gen 4 via those annoying minigames
>later transfer to soul silver
>then to white 2
>then to pokemon bank and into Y
>then to alpha sapphire
>Then to Moon
>Then back to pokemon bank so I can then transfer to Pokemon Home
And that's how I ended up with a full 890 living dex with over 150 pokemon that are old enough to vote.
colosseum is a dreadful slog, its not a good rpg in any means. it fricks you around with fetch quest bullshit for 10 hours then its over and you can move the pokemon to a better game. XD is better, but really, not by much
Colosseum and XD's main flaw is that the animations take forever and you can't turn them off. They're good animations, but they're too long.
But it has good guitar riffs
>still no colosseum, stadium, battle revolution, etc. re-release
>no way officially play older pokemon games on switch/mobile aside from the gameboy era
it's funny how they know pokemon post-SwSh/Go has been dogshit, they don't want people to acknowledge how little they progressed and make comparisons
They must be pleased that the fandom are drooling morons who ask for remakes instead of rereleases.
Colo was a bit janky with how tedious shadow purification was, but it was just nice to have something DIFFERENT to mix up the pokemon formula. I appreciate the fact that the entire game was double battles, making it something you actually needed to build strategies/movesets around. Rather than doubles being a rare occasion like in the mainline games, where there's no point bothering with doubles strategies. I also liked how the game was actually relatively difficult for a pokemon game. And the music was kino.
Was my first pokémon game despite playing it when I was 13 (Had a PS1 during the "Golden Era") and I really liked it but looking back, here are some drawbacks.
>No voice acting, many JRGPs at the time already had this, FFX, Tales of, etc...
>Is sorta cheaply made, all Kanto and Johto mons use the stadium models and they clash a lot with the newer ones
>3D models for humans are lifeless and souless, you rarely see them zoomed in for this reason
>Not that many interesting locations, very few of them too
>World design is interesting but they don't really do a lot with it, can't even ride the badass bike you have
>Does not have minigames and other cool distractions like STADIUM 1 and 2, menus are also very stale in comparison
>If you finish the game you can trade with GBA, cool, but since there are no wild pokémon, you can't really give away trash for something good to transfer them between games, the only way to raise your pokémon count is to import a Nincada and evolve it, had like 25 shedinjas because of this.
That being said, it had a very good OST and probably one of the most kino fights in the series:
>>If you finish the game you can trade with GBA, cool, but since there are no wild pokémon, you can't really give away trash for something good to transfer them between games, the only way to raise your pokémon count is to import a Nincada and evolve it, had like 25 shedinjas because of this
Wow I never thought about that, you're right.
>No voice acting
This is honestly a plus. Nintendo voice actors are almost always god awful, especially NoA. I wouldn't trust a TPC hired american crew to voice a pokemon game
>3D models for humans are lifeless and souless
The npcs had as much life and soul as any other JRPG at the time. That is to say, the named ones were over the top as always
Man, compare it to Skies of Arcadia (A Dreamcast game) and FFX and it lets a lot to be desired, anon, and of course I mean decent voice acting, not that I truly wanted it but it's the least they could do considering the rest of the shortcomings it had.
>compare it to (big budget games)
not something a spinoff with a spinoff's shoestring budget and deadline is gonna get. Sadly the only people getting a good budget are the talentless hacks at Gamefreak, who blow it on nothing every time.
my favorite battle theme (tied with the battle brain theme from emerald)
Yes plz remaster both gamecube games they are stupid expensive
Emulate them moron. Scalpers and collectors hold no power over emulationchads
Dolphin is one of the best emulators around and you can mod a Wii to play them for free. I own both games from when I was a kid but still use Nintendont because it's so much easier
GF would rather sink themselves and TPCi then do that.
it would be a cakewalk too in my head canon they could simply replace all the models with the latest ones
Anybody who actually cares about quality or difficulty just plays romhacks and even then you have to filter out a lot of garbage. There are a lack of pure 2v2 hacks but they're improvements in just about every way otherwise. Gaia > your favorite pokemon game
Are there any good hacks with pure doubles mode? The only one I know of is RoWE which has a doubles only mode
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=10453847
Here's some double battle patches you might like. I used one of these in tandem with AlteRED and it worked wonders. BW/B2W2 have a triple battle patch too.
Check out Grand Colosseum.
h-hayai
any good romhacks for this game? i really enjoyed XG, a romhack for XD
It was pretty confy for 4 bros battles
>mecha groudon
most disappointing fight in the whole game tbhsempai
> The magma arena that had lightpoles like you're in a damn park
XD really doesn't get enough love for how good some of its environments were.
All the coliseum games were great, too bad they decided to just mass produce shitty mobil- I mean handheld games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhDWNIFz5uA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdtwiCZlhx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXrHs0OFhIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVv0ZFvvBW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B26s2iWraDk
Tsukasa Tawada is a genius and its a shame that he's one of the only devs left championing these two games.
If there's anyone here that can stand some romhack bullshit look into Pokemon XG. It's a challenge hack of XD that adds a good chunk of shadow pokemon and wild pokemon to catch.
>Tsukasa Tawada is a genius and its a shame that he's one of the only devs left championing these two games.
I really wish they'd put him on mainline. The main battle themes (trainer and wild pokemon) haven't been good since gen iv.
Has there been anyone who worked on a spinoff being given a meaningful role on mainline?
The closest to this I can think of is a mainline composer who'd been composing for multiple mainline games. He referenced a pokemon mystery dungeon song in one of his latest compositions, and mysteriously was demoted to gruntwork afterwards and hasn't composed a song since.
James Turner worked on Colo/XD before getting hired by Gamefreak as a Pokemon designer and was the art director for SWSH.
I wonder what spurred those decisions. They'd sooner let a gaijin be in charge of important aspects than acknowledge another studio does their job but better
James Turner sabotaged the sequel to colosseum. That was probably what won gamefreak over, assuming it wasn't his rite of initiation
he's the reason why XD was so shit? that explains why too much as to why XD turned out the way it is.
I remember playing this and being very fricking confused, i keep waiting and waiting for the pokemon exploration and catching part of the game to start until i realize there wasn't one.
>anon actually thinks those screenshots look good
Step aside colo-cucks, a REAL studio's animations are here. Kneel before Gamefreak's superior generic backgrounds and 2-keyframe tweening that completely break any sense of immersion. That will be $59.99 + tax + subscription fee, thanks!
Sometimes I don't really understand GF thought process.
>make new battle mechanic
>don't take the time to refine it so it doesn't end doing shit like that
If the thing you're trying to make is too hard for your capabilities, just don't do it. Fricking GF.
But our marketing team told upper management that gimmicks boost sales, regardless of how cheaply they're implemented. They also said that if we introduce a new gimmick every gen, we won't have to work harder on making the game actually good because the consumers will be too busy ogling the new gimmick to notice how crusty our game is!
smarr indy comprany
prease understandu
GF doesn't care to refine anything, just slap something new in the game and ship it out, It'll sell a billion copies regardless of the effort they put in so its easier to halfass and cut as much content as possible to see how much they can get away with.
Cool Dreamcast game
Did she died?
Miror B return when?
I'm playing XD now. Should I just get all the new shadow poks I get and remove old ones from party, since they are higher level or I should just keep what I like?
>XD
Sticking with good ones you got in the first half is generally better, considering EVs, getting ahead of the level curve, and the effort needed to purify new ones. But there are a handful in the late-game that are fully evolved and come high level enough to consider.
I love the weirds realistic textures they used in old attack animations.
And that's it
Wait when does this happen?
After purifying lugia?
After the credits roll Eagun comes to visit you and challenges you to battle. It's actually a pretty funny fight because this is right after you caught Lugia and the birds and you're itching to use them, then the very next fight is a guy with six Electric-types.
The lack of coloseum and xd love we've gotten over the years makes me feel like someone with som autority of pokemon has a vendetta against genius sonority. Those guys were poached "top talent" from sony how did they make 2 games that did well on the GC and 1 on the wii and then get deligated to making mobile phone tier games for the ds and 3ds
pokémon is a brain dead child’s game
if i play pokémon, i want a brain dead child’s game
this was not a brain dead child’s game
this was a bad pokémon game
Even if it is harder than normal pokemon games, it's still piss easy.
sorry about your negative IQ friend
I'd say if your trying to snag all pokemon some of them can be a pain in the ass like entei the first time around.
You get second chances on all of them.
Colosseum kind of sucks ass, Gale of Darkness though, that’s the good shit
>Gale has more pokemom variety, more replay value, faster battles, and a better purification system
>people still try to push Colosseum as the better game
I'm convinced that the only people who prefer Colosseum only do because of the edgier looking protagonist and the final battle.
>people only like colosseum more than GoD because it has more soul
I do, and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
I like the edgier protagonist too but my problem is that they didn’t lean on it enough. And eventually it stops mattering and you’re treated like every other Pokémon protagonist.
Yes, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise
Games are more than just mechanics, I will not continue playing a fighting game no matter how mechanicly good it is if I don't like any of the characters.
I will also play a character I'm worse at than a character I'm naturally good at if I hate that character as well
Colosseum stunk. GoD was way better.
bros why do gamecube games look like ass compared to PS2 games
nintendo
Colosseum and GoD were dope and I wish GF and the Pokemon Company would stop being cowards and re-release the games or make a third entry. I want that edge back, dammit.
>takes like an hour to beat half a dozen trainers in a hallway because of how slow the game was
Shit was boring.
This game had such good animations. I love having to wait 7 seconds to watch Electrike clip through the Trainer's leg every time I damage it!
(you)
It's funny how anti-game freakgays have deluded themselves into thinking grindy slowpace games like the cube games are good just because they have a higher ratio of "good animations", even though more than half of them are just reused from the N64 alongside the models.
people also think the N64 games were better than gamefreak's trash.
Turns out sane people don't care about gamefreak's terrible gameplay and instead want to see pokemon battle eachother
Everyone's anti-gamefreak though? I've never met a single person who honestly defended gamefreak that wasn't literally a paid shill like Merriku.
Even the plebbest of normalgays know that mainline pokemon games are god awful, but they buy them anyways because pokemon.
They did, that's what Su/Mo were
They just forgot it was 2017 and didn't let you skip cutscenes
I think colosseum is my 2nd favorite pokemon game just behind crystal.
I hope the next pokemon game is good, but last two generations have been shit. Still played arceus and that was fun
Funny how it only turned out this way because the devs didn't know anything about shitkemon. Always thought this game was a gem
I remember pretty much nothing about this other than it had neat music (which I can't remember) and a pretty neat art style with the whole 'wild west with vague sci fi and pipes everywhere' thing. Also getting fooled by some stupid rumor about running into a door frame near the train-restaurant thing to catch Mewtwo.
never played gale of darkness, is it a proper sequel or just a rehash/fix?
It's a better game in everyway besides the main character being a lame boring kid with a scooter
It's an actual sequel and not some 3rd version of a pokemon game ala Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, etc.
I've been play Grand colosseum, so far pretty enjoyable, only just beat miror b though.