Odin and Valkyries are Norse mythology based on Germanic culture that's almost a thousand years old. Black people do not exist there, not even as bad guys since in those times blacks and whites did not interact with each other due to the desert serving as a natural border. No one knew black people was even a thing and that's why you never see black people being mentioned anywhere till like 500 years ago. Of-course if you watch the BBC you'd think the Romans were black but by simply taking look at a map and using a bit of common sense you know that's impossible.
They're hiring consultants from the west. They want to expand and appeal beyond Japan and think listening to western marketing teams is what will do it.
It is because they put them in because they feel like it instead of being preachy about it. That is the biggest difference. Both the intent as well as the lack of homosexualy preaching.
But feel free to deny it so everyone knows you don't have basic pattern recognition.
>instead of being preachy about it.
That's what it feels like here. It's also wrong when the company policy is forcing this on the dev, which is also what's going on at Square.
You think the jap devs also spontaneously decided to make Forspoken the way it is? Don't be a fool.
she literally has a different name and a different face >le armor >le weapon
literally doesn't matter, you can be wearing a skirt right now but that still doesn't make you a woman
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're thinking she replaces Hrist. Does she?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're thinking it's a different game, the main character is different, even the devs are different.
They wanted to reward the player based on his performance, but the implemented it in the laziest way possible. VP1 gave you exp crystals for juggling enemies, VP2 gave you materials for breaking parts, VP CotM gave you extra sin for overkilling enemies, which meant better rewards when you complete a mission. Also, VP1 rewarded you at the end of each period based on the einherjar you sent to Valhalla - Freya would give you a shitload of goodies if you fulfilled all of her criteria. Elysium doesn't give you shit. Rewards for missions are static. The grade is meaningless.
It's not rigged; it's an oversight. gems drop in increments of 10, but there's a chest that gives you 5 violet gems, forever fricking you because the demo caps the gems at 500, so you can never actually collect that last 10 gems since it would overflow past 500, and the game is not coded to just give you 5 gems and then discard the rest.
Played through the demo its fun enough I guess though this would be first play at the Valkrie games. Appreciate pantyshots instead of black void shit or ugly Valkries like from Nuwar
I'm aware of that, but I'm not dropping $500 for a console that's single exclusive is a remaster of a ps3 game.
I liked the demo, I didn't $570 like it
Demo started off eh but I was having fun by the end. The combat actually flows well and shines the best when there’s multiple enemies with different weaknesses on the field. Zipping between them and slinging the correct spells felt good. I was worried about the variety but if there’s a good amount of weapon types and spells it should keep things fresh for the whole game.
Don’t know if I want to drop $60 Day 1 but I have my eye on it.
VP2 was the same as 1. Every now and then there would be a town but all you could really do was walk from one end to the other and talk to NPCs.
From the demo of this it seems like Valhalla is the hub which will eventually get filled with other NPCs and maybe your Einherjar to talk with as the story progresses.
VP2 had towns; that was where you crafted new shit, since you had to use merchants for crafting instead of transmuting. They were also kind of checkpoint hubs where you rested and restocked items before going into a dungeon.
I seriously doubt Elysium will have towns. There doesn't appear to be a need for any.
Loved 1 and 2, and was initially turned off by the first trailer but damn I had a LOT of fun with the demo. I am weak for trashy ARPGs though so the genre shift worked in my favor anyway
Using the kick as a launcher and then grabbing the enemy and doing the uppercut air combo feels really nice. I can't wait to play with the full kit
The only thing I’m not sold on is how sidequests work. If they take you back to the same map anyway just let me complete as soon as I activate them instead of having to complete the level then come back. Just feels like padding.
It feels like a reboot. It follows the same structure of the first game. Odin creates valkyries to gather warriors in preparation for ragnarok. You go to various places in Midgard to purify souls to send to Valhalla. Eventually the black valkyrie enters the scene, who is almost certainly analogous to Hrist.
shut up moron, go actually play the game before writing it off.
I don't get the "its not a valkyrie game" when literally every game in the series play different to each other.
>I don't get the "its not a valkyrie game" when literally every game in the series play different to each other.
1 and 2 had nearly identical gameplay with the biggest change being the story structure, and they shared the plot.
Covenant of the Plume was still less of a departure than this is you disingenuous homosexual.
Don't engage with that moron. He never played any of these games. I guarantee anyone b***hing that Covenant of the Plume is different never played it. It's more similar to the first game than Silmeria is.
I’m actually bummed it has the VP attached it for that reason. If it were just a new IP or on its own it would probably just fly under the radar as a decent but nothing amazing action game.
But since it has the VP name people are going to hate it on principle of it not being like 1 and 2.
Do you remember when VP2 released? Every fan of the original game hated it. I loved it, and I still do, and now it seems like more fans are coming around. Covenant of the Plume, similarly, is a great game. Even though the genres *appear* to be different between entries, the basic premise of juggling enemies through combos remains the same.
>Do you remember when VP2 released? Every fan of the original game hated it.
Nice revisionism. People disliked the Einherjar getting sidelined and the linear structure but 2 was always praised for everything else.
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People will hate it because there’s a lot who genuinely believe the “old good new bad” mentality regardless of actual quality.
People still shit on VP2 regularly for not being like 1 even though it still has the same core concept and a lot of similarities with only the Einherjar system really being toned down to focus on a bigger main cast instead.
>People will hate it because there’s a lot who genuinely believe the “old good new bad” mentality regardless of actual quality.
Ah yes, actual quality. Something that is clearly impossible to demonstrably compare.
>But since it has the VP name people are going to hate it on principle of it not being like 1 and 2.
what annoys me is that "fans" just can't be happy valkyrie is getting a new game at all.
it's been dead for 15 years, i guarantee the same people shitting on it already are also the same types to cry if SE decided to never do anything with the ip ever again.
>what annoys me is that "fans" just can't be happy valkyrie is getting a new game at all.
What annoys me is that morons like you think fans of a series should be happy that it gets brought back from the dead with a new entry in a new genre by devs who had nothing to do with the original in a new title that doesn't in any way do the series justice. Why the frick are fans supposed to appreciate a game that clearly isn't made for them?
I would rather have no games than shitty spin-offs made by different developers that are just cashing in on the name. Stop pretending everyone other than you is one person who can't keep their opinions straight you stupid frick.
Do you remember when VP2 released? Every fan of the original game hated it. I loved it, and I still do, and now it seems like more fans are coming around. Covenant of the Plume, similarly, is a great game. Even though the genres *appear* to be different between entries, the basic premise of juggling enemies through combos remains the same.
People will hate it because there’s a lot who genuinely believe the “old good new bad” mentality regardless of actual quality.
People still shit on VP2 regularly for not being like 1 even though it still has the same core concept and a lot of similarities with only the Einherjar system really being toned down to focus on a bigger main cast instead.
You won't find a bigger Valkyrie Profile fan on this board than me, and I didn't hate it. I don't hate it because Tri Ace is not responsible, so I can't really judge it as a true Valkyrie Profile game; this is more like a spin-off, or fanfiction. Judging it as a brand new action game, it's not bad. Definitely far from great, but I don't hate it.
>people enjoying the demo get called shills by the one moron spamming the thread with BUT THE Black person posts
Oh yeah definitely
Feel free to have a nice day any time
The demo was fun outside of some rough looking visuals even on PS5. I can already see how crazy the combat will get once you get more weapons/skills/einherjar. Hopefully the full game turns out well
The in game explanation is that the tutorial is just Valkyrie having a sort of prophetic dream and she hasn’t actually gotten any teammates yet. Chapter 1 ends with her recruiting the sword dude
>after first cathedral >need bow dude to make bridge or whatever >he's gone from the skill palette >what the frick >use other dude >both of them disappear and reappear in the skill palette and game crashes
great demo.
Yeah. Doesn't help that the animations aren't that tight.
Besides the perfect parry there was a skill I couldn't use consistently. It's the one with the square button. iirc you can hold guard as long you want but as soon as an attack hits you have to press square or something like that. Like I said, couldn't use it consistently and I wonder if the few times I managed to pull it off it wasn't actually the perfect parry thing.
You still gain more of those gold materials with a perfect parry, though, so I suppose it would be better to learn to master it in the full game if you want to upgrade more easily.
>GAME UK got exclusive rights to the steelbook preorder bonus in bongland >more expensive than anywhere else >go to preorder >£5 pick up in store fee on top
fricking greedy c**ts, I cancelled that shit right away when I saw that.
fricking square giving exclusives to the worst retailers possible.
can't wait till the highstreet fricking dies and we can just order everything online.
a real b***h since the steelbook looks sexy as hell.
Sorry but my wife lenneth cant be replaced
>black character
im out
But you fight the black one
Odin and Valkyries are Norse mythology based on Germanic culture that's almost a thousand years old. Black people do not exist there, not even as bad guys since in those times blacks and whites did not interact with each other due to the desert serving as a natural border. No one knew black people was even a thing and that's why you never see black people being mentioned anywhere till like 500 years ago. Of-course if you watch the BBC you'd think the Romans were black but by simply taking look at a map and using a bit of common sense you know that's impossible.
But its Japan, they turned Jack the Ripper into a little girl.
You do realize you’ll never beat the israelites right? Just stop yapping and consume.
c ya gaygit, keep gatekeeping yourself from good games because "muh black people"
this isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure
t. resetera
I am not out but is a 100% pirate for me
>"Have denuvo"
Dont care i can wait a couple of month
I have so much to play in the meanwhile
can someone explain to me why now even nips are putting black people into euro settings?
They're hiring consultants from the west. They want to expand and appeal beyond Japan and think listening to western marketing teams is what will do it.
>black
she's med at worst
That would be considered black in my country.
Good. You won't be missed.
>now
Loki was not white in the original PS one Valkyrie Profile.
I don't care if she's black
Is she hot or cute? If yes that's a win in my eyes
Not racist when horny
Unironically it's ok when japs do it.
It really isn't
It is because they put them in because they feel like it instead of being preachy about it. That is the biggest difference. Both the intent as well as the lack of homosexualy preaching.
But feel free to deny it so everyone knows you don't have basic pattern recognition.
>instead of being preachy about it.
That's what it feels like here. It's also wrong when the company policy is forcing this on the dev, which is also what's going on at Square.
You think the jap devs also spontaneously decided to make Forspoken the way it is? Don't be a fool.
>Blackwashing
Just make a new character. I hate this demon world.
It's literally a new character
Why does she look almost exactly like Hrist in armor/weapon?
I thought she looks like a Black person?
>armor/weapon is nearly identical to Hrist's style
>s-she's different!
she literally has a different name and a different face
>le armor
>le weapon
literally doesn't matter, you can be wearing a skirt right now but that still doesn't make you a woman
They're thinking she replaces Hrist. Does she?
They're thinking it's a different game, the main character is different, even the devs are different.
what did they mean by this
Pillpill me on this game. Is it fun? Is there much build variety? Is the story good?
it's very 6.5-7/10
>it's very 6.5-7/10
those are some of my favorite games of all time. Especially the PS2 era.
So it's exactly what I expected based on everything that was shown so far. Why did anyone expect it to not be shit? That's what's confusing me.
Its alot better than the trailer.
too bad there's no PC demo, would've liked to try it
You don't own any consoles?
no but I'll be able to try it on release for free anyway
Did you like Chaos Legion or other bad PS2 hack'n slash games? It's pretty much on the same level.
It's just a demo, there's nothing substancial storywise.
>gets graded at end of mission
What the frick. I just wanna explore and not get this dmc shit
They wanted to reward the player based on his performance, but the implemented it in the laziest way possible. VP1 gave you exp crystals for juggling enemies, VP2 gave you materials for breaking parts, VP CotM gave you extra sin for overkilling enemies, which meant better rewards when you complete a mission. Also, VP1 rewarded you at the end of each period based on the einherjar you sent to Valhalla - Freya would give you a shitload of goodies if you fulfilled all of her criteria. Elysium doesn't give you shit. Rewards for missions are static. The grade is meaningless.
The rapier seems cool
Just got it, it seems nice
Also i feel like the parry/counter is too strict
Does difficulty/hard affects it?
Is A the highest rank or S?
Is this demo rigged that you dont get the last available defender skill? Im always missing 5 violet gem
I got all 5
It's not rigged; it's an oversight. gems drop in increments of 10, but there's a chest that gives you 5 violet gems, forever fricking you because the demo caps the gems at 500, so you can never actually collect that last 10 gems since it would overflow past 500, and the game is not coded to just give you 5 gems and then discard the rest.
Fricking japs and their spaghetti coding
How the frick am i gonna get that skill then
Play through the entire level again and open the 5 gem chest.
Is it just chapter1 then the 2 subquests? If it is then frick it deleting this shit
What difficulty are you playing on? I've gotten all the skills and I haven't even touched the chests on Hard. Everything's at cap too
Played through the demo its fun enough I guess though this would be first play at the Valkrie games. Appreciate pantyshots instead of black void shit or ugly Valkries like from Nuwar
YESSSSS.
Thank fricking good lord. I just hope she gets different outfits tbh senpai.
Hoping for more outfits as well.
Nier costume will be greatly appreciated
Any brown stain?
you, probably.
I can feel my PS5 dying with the magic effects lmao
Why isn't there vrr or higher frame rate?
My PS5 didn’t cha at all, clean your shit out bro
Stop fricking lying. I just fought some dragon that had an icebreath n i swear it drop to like 20s
Nta, mine is working fine. I just wish this game has higher framerate or vrr
my ps4 pulled out a revolver and blew its hdd out the second the first tutorial enemy showed itself
Thats a ps4 problem.
I'm aware of that, but I'm not dropping $500 for a console that's single exclusive is a remaster of a ps3 game.
I liked the demo, I didn't $570 like it
Demo started off eh but I was having fun by the end. The combat actually flows well and shines the best when there’s multiple enemies with different weaknesses on the field. Zipping between them and slinging the correct spells felt good. I was worried about the variety but if there’s a good amount of weapon types and spells it should keep things fresh for the whole game.
Don’t know if I want to drop $60 Day 1 but I have my eye on it.
U guys thing we are gonna get cities/towns like in vp1? I never played vp2 so idk what happens there
VP2 was the same as 1. Every now and then there would be a town but all you could really do was walk from one end to the other and talk to NPCs.
From the demo of this it seems like Valhalla is the hub which will eventually get filled with other NPCs and maybe your Einherjar to talk with as the story progresses.
VP2 had towns; that was where you crafted new shit, since you had to use merchants for crafting instead of transmuting. They were also kind of checkpoint hubs where you rested and restocked items before going into a dungeon.
I seriously doubt Elysium will have towns. There doesn't appear to be a need for any.
Not going to lie, its actually better than the trailer.
Yeah the trailer made it look like ass. If it weren’t for the demo I wouldn’t have paid attention to the game at all.
WE
WUZ
VALKYRIES N SHEEET
Loved 1 and 2, and was initially turned off by the first trailer but damn I had a LOT of fun with the demo. I am weak for trashy ARPGs though so the genre shift worked in my favor anyway
Using the kick as a launcher and then grabbing the enemy and doing the uppercut air combo feels really nice. I can't wait to play with the full kit
Is there a weapon list?
The only thing I’m not sold on is how sidequests work. If they take you back to the same map anyway just let me complete as soon as I activate them instead of having to complete the level then come back. Just feels like padding.
Is this a prequel?
It feels like a reboot. It follows the same structure of the first game. Odin creates valkyries to gather warriors in preparation for ragnarok. You go to various places in Midgard to purify souls to send to Valhalla. Eventually the black valkyrie enters the scene, who is almost certainly analogous to Hrist.
>shills trying to hype the game up while the actual fans hate it
It's HUZZAH all over again.
>while the actual fans hate it
what are those real fans
shut up moron, go actually play the game before writing it off.
I don't get the "its not a valkyrie game" when literally every game in the series play different to each other.
>S-Spend the money then you can complain when its too late!
No.
There's a demo you window licker
>I don't get the "its not a valkyrie game" when literally every game in the series play different to each other.
1 and 2 had nearly identical gameplay with the biggest change being the story structure, and they shared the plot.
Covenant of the Plume was still less of a departure than this is you disingenuous homosexual.
Don't engage with that moron. He never played any of these games. I guarantee anyone b***hing that Covenant of the Plume is different never played it. It's more similar to the first game than Silmeria is.
I’m actually bummed it has the VP attached it for that reason. If it were just a new IP or on its own it would probably just fly under the radar as a decent but nothing amazing action game.
But since it has the VP name people are going to hate it on principle of it not being like 1 and 2.
Do you remember when VP2 released? Every fan of the original game hated it. I loved it, and I still do, and now it seems like more fans are coming around. Covenant of the Plume, similarly, is a great game. Even though the genres *appear* to be different between entries, the basic premise of juggling enemies through combos remains the same.
>Do you remember when VP2 released? Every fan of the original game hated it.
Nice revisionism. People disliked the Einherjar getting sidelined and the linear structure but 2 was always praised for everything else.
>People will hate it because there’s a lot who genuinely believe the “old good new bad” mentality regardless of actual quality.
Ah yes, actual quality. Something that is clearly impossible to demonstrably compare.
>But since it has the VP name people are going to hate it on principle of it not being like 1 and 2.
what annoys me is that "fans" just can't be happy valkyrie is getting a new game at all.
it's been dead for 15 years, i guarantee the same people shitting on it already are also the same types to cry if SE decided to never do anything with the ip ever again.
>what annoys me is that "fans" just can't be happy valkyrie is getting a new game at all.
What annoys me is that morons like you think fans of a series should be happy that it gets brought back from the dead with a new entry in a new genre by devs who had nothing to do with the original in a new title that doesn't in any way do the series justice. Why the frick are fans supposed to appreciate a game that clearly isn't made for them?
Then they cry when theres no more games of that series
I would rather have no games than shitty spin-offs made by different developers that are just cashing in on the name. Stop pretending everyone other than you is one person who can't keep their opinions straight you stupid frick.
People will hate it because there’s a lot who genuinely believe the “old good new bad” mentality regardless of actual quality.
People still shit on VP2 regularly for not being like 1 even though it still has the same core concept and a lot of similarities with only the Einherjar system really being toned down to focus on a bigger main cast instead.
Its only issue is being different. Hindsight will vindicate the game
You won't find a bigger Valkyrie Profile fan on this board than me, and I didn't hate it. I don't hate it because Tri Ace is not responsible, so I can't really judge it as a true Valkyrie Profile game; this is more like a spin-off, or fanfiction. Judging it as a brand new action game, it's not bad. Definitely far from great, but I don't hate it.
>people enjoying the demo get called shills by the one moron spamming the thread with BUT THE Black person posts
Oh yeah definitely
Feel free to have a nice day any time
That huzzah shit was legitimately funny.
What is this HUZZAH you speak of?
The people “pretending” to shill the Saints Row reboot. The fact that it was pissing people off was just funny to me.
This game is ok
>Mogged by every single older VP game
Damn...
They all cute
Is the PS4 version that bad?
I hope she gets porn
I searched the hottest mc of previous titles and she only got 2 pages of rule34
I'll be satisfied with just some Lazyprocrastinator animations of the mc and the dark bawd.
She has the be meme
tags?
Lenneth.obviously
The demo was fun outside of some rough looking visuals even on PS5. I can already see how crazy the combat will get once you get more weapons/skills/einherjar. Hopefully the full game turns out well
Is her butt round?
Imagine the riding..
Captcha:DDD4X
September 29 vs November 9
Cute girl vs bald man
Valkyrie vs a god
Hilde vs black Angrboda
East vs West
Valkyrie Elysium vs God of War Ragnarock
Yep, my vote is on the Japs.
valkyrie will have more interesting game play
god of war will look prettier and be more polished and feature more press circle to do thing
dad of war has better gameplay.
Oh wow, a real time traveler!
Not him but Ragnarok looks pretty much identical gameplay wise
She fricks white einherjar.
will she be Sheva tier?
Better if she has blue eyes to contrast darker skin, nothing gets me harder more than that.
WE
I hope she has red eyes in contrast to the protagonist
You know, the art design is actually good, it's the 3D stuff that looks terrible and worse the VP2.
Anyone else get a little annoyed at her repeating voicelines?
Why won't they make Hrist's game bros
Why can't I summon any of my teammates after the tutorial?
The in game explanation is that the tutorial is just Valkyrie having a sort of prophetic dream and she hasn’t actually gotten any teammates yet. Chapter 1 ends with her recruiting the sword dude
Ahh ok. I skipped everything, so I can get a feel on the combat. Not worth wasting my time watching the cutscenes until I get the full game.
>after first cathedral
>need bow dude to make bridge or whatever
>he's gone from the skill palette
>what the frick
>use other dude
>both of them disappear and reappear in the skill palette and game crashes
great demo.
Based game
How thick is her butt? Im a butt man
She's a fricking bawd!
I'm gonna download the demo.
I only have a base PS4.
Pray for me.
Don't worry, not alot of things happening in this game.
That's good to hear. Thanks.
The parry in this game is quite strict.
Yeah. Doesn't help that the animations aren't that tight.
Besides the perfect parry there was a skill I couldn't use consistently. It's the one with the square button. iirc you can hold guard as long you want but as soon as an attack hits you have to press square or something like that. Like I said, couldn't use it consistently and I wonder if the few times I managed to pull it off it wasn't actually the perfect parry thing.
The roll seems more useful than the block so far for me. The enemy attacks are slow.
You still gain more of those gold materials with a perfect parry, though, so I suppose it would be better to learn to master it in the full game if you want to upgrade more easily.
$10 says Hilde falls in love with a prettyboy that turns out to be Lezard
Chances of sexy outfits? I know pc will give glorious no bottom day 1.
Is it fun?
Is actually ok
will this mad lad be back. it would feel wrong if he was completely left out.
DLC Einherjar
Is it out yet?
You only get a taste
Demo? yes. The complete game? Sep 29.
But is it fun?
Play the demo. It's better than the trailer
I don't actually play games. I just need to get my shitposting up to speed.
Worthy of 20 dollars.
>no ultrawide support
cancelled my pre-order
>same roastie from Foh'spoken, SH leak is in three different games
Yike
Wow the new trailers looks good
>naruto run animation
kek
The valkyrie on the first game on the ps1 actually runs the same.
Is the demo not on Steam?
Sadly, you guys won't be eating
At least it's not EGS exclusive. I still can't play Jack's game
you can pirate his game
No
No thong no buy
There is no reason for this to exist, except insult the series
It's disgusting. No reason why you should be looking under her skirt without her permission
>Elysium
>Eve
What's with Ganker trying to pass a 5/10 looking b***h as some kind of Sex Goddess
>GAME UK got exclusive rights to the steelbook preorder bonus in bongland
>more expensive than anywhere else
>go to preorder
>£5 pick up in store fee on top
fricking greedy c**ts, I cancelled that shit right away when I saw that.
fricking square giving exclusives to the worst retailers possible.
can't wait till the highstreet fricking dies and we can just order everything online.
a real b***h since the steelbook looks sexy as hell.
You will regret this
no I won't, a piece of steel sitting on my shelf isn't worth another $30 of expenditure over just buying the game anywhere else