>absolutely RAPE the invaders. >soldiers sacrifice their bodies to ensure human dominance of earth

>absolutely RAPE the invaders
>soldiers sacrifice their bodies to ensure human dominance of earth
>soldiers get mindfucked to protect human race
>aliens unequivocally btfo
>sequel: nah, you actually lost

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >99% to win war
    >lose

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was playing yesterdat and had my sniper take a 99% shot on a drone AND FUCKING MISSED

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks 99% is a sure thing.
        Never gonna make it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ayy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's Xcom, baby.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is why only I only played through Xcom EU thrice and Xcom 2 only once.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jej

      Isn't the XCOM team working on some capeshit garbage

      man i thought we were getting an xmen but xcom where you recruit mutant and build xmansion or something, what a letdown

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sequel: nah, you actually lost
    It's actually
    >What if you lost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you trying to say xcom 2 isn't canon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then why did you say that the humans/xcom didnt lose canonically in xcom eu?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because they didn't, duh. In XCOM EU you win. In XCOM2, the story takes place in a world where they didn't win. A "what if" scenario as it were. You'll notice the details of what went wrong as told in XCOM2 have nothing to do with what actually happens in XCOM1, because they are not supposed to be the same continuity or storyline, or whatever. XCOM2 does not connect to the story of XCOM1, though I don't see how that is an issue.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thats such retarded cope for shitty writing.
              xcom 2 should have been a revenge story wgere we invade the alien planets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you pretending to be retarded
                you better not be

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a revenge story wgere we invade the alien planets.
                I could have fucking sworn you did that on the original one but that was many moons ago

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I could have fucking sworn you did that on the original one but that was many moons ago
                The last mission of X-COM is taking your super ship and attacking their Mars base and killing the Alien brain, defeating the invasion.
                X-COM Apocayplse ends with travelling to the aliens alternate dimension and fucking all their shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they didn't, duh. In XCOM EU you win. In XCOM2, the story takes place in a world where they didn't win. A "what if" scenario as it were. You'll notice the details of what went wrong as told in XCOM2 have nothing to do with what actually happens in XCOM1, because they are not supposed to be the same continuity or storyline, or whatever. XCOM2 does not connect to the story of XCOM1, though I don't see how that is an issue.

                >game sequel uses a game with multiples endings and makes one of them canon

                Your ass would absolutely be blown the fuck out if you've ever played a Nier game.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >In XCOM EU you win
              there is a bad ending where you lose, and a good ending where you win
              XCOM 2 simply takes the bad ending as the canon one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The bad end of XCOM1 doesn't line up with XCOM2 at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                of course it does, what happens is that you "fail" that xcom base assault, the DLC in xcom2 tells this story through Central

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's because it's not taken from the ending, it's an alternative ending for if you never made it to laser/plasma tech like most retards that played the game.
                https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/xcom-2-interview

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >laser/plasma tech
                >plasma
                that's my only complaint regarding Xcom's and Xcom 2's art is that the plasma tech-tier is too alien looking and visually divorced from human technological identity. I wish it was more grounded in reality instead looking like Elite armor from Halo.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Xcom2 assumes you lost the base defense mission from EW. That's how you're scattered and doing guerilla warfare.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                of course it does, what happens is that you "fail" that xcom base assault, the DLC in xcom2 tells this story through Central

                In XCOM2 the aliens hit humanity with everything they had from the start, not playing around with pushing humanity to uplift ourselves or testing us, they just bring down the mothership and bumrush you, which is not what happens in XCOM1.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There never was any uplifting even in xcom 1. The aliens literally harvest humans for genetic resources. Even the opening mission has people get gooed and harvested.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your memory is a bit rusty

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >numbered direct sequel
      >what if scenario
      You have to be a full retard to think this wasn't Canon. Chimera squad is how you do a what if game, as a side project.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You have to be a full retard to think this wasn't Canon
        Or I could just take Jake's word for it.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i just want xcom 3 bros

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the XCOM team working on some capeshit garbage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yep.
      and its a mobile game to boot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, Marvel game. With XCOM Chimera into this nonsense, I don't have any hype for XCOM3. If it ever comes out and is good, that would be great, it's just not something I'm expecting.

      thats such retarded cope for shitty writing.
      xcom 2 should have been a revenge story wgere we invade the alien planets.

      >thats such retarded cope for shitty writing.
      That's literally what it is. And it makes way more sense and is infinitely less shitty than: "lol actually you lost." From the mouth of Jake Solomon himself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't see how that quote diaproves my assertion of shitty writing.
        >LOL ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pffftt, okay buddy. Whoah be it that people make different games set in the same general universe. Bet you pissed and shit your pants when XCOM was just a reboot of X-COM and not a continuation of X-COM Apocalypse. Do not reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still can't deny the second shittiest writing cop out after "it was all a dream".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks doc

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nah, actually xenos deserve respect and the same rights as humans

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only resect I give is to the viper as a fleshlight.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are they really xenos if they were "born" in earth?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > over 2 years and people are still getting mad at a $20 spinoff

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it's truly a $20 spinoff, then whatever. If they take it and run with it, then I'll be pissed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on how they implement it.
          Apocalypse had naturalized ayy factions you could interact with and that was cool.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I will never not be mad that some furry/xeno Twitter gayry got greenlit as a game and got full backing from the devs.
        This game doing even middling well will influence all future games whether you like it or not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FOR THE EMPEROR

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A reminder that all of the Elders' troops were mind-controlled or tortured to do their bidding.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ADVENT LIVES MATTER

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And no others do, correct? That is how you people interpreted that phrase in your fits of rage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah and?
        That's kinda the whole point of the series. That the elders conquer planets, harvest their inhabitants, and genetically twist them into servants and fighters.
        Humans are just another resource to them until we steal their shit and start using it against them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly. So it's silly to blame the troops for what they did when they literally had no choice in the matter.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a matter of blame. Their existence as independent creatures you can work with ended after the Ethereals fucked them up for so long. Nothing left to do but dispose of them.
            Obviously Chimera would be establishing a sharp divergence from how the aliens work in X-COM/XCOM, one that I'm not a fan of and should be left to a different series not called XCOM.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Of the races in 1, I'd say mutons might be possible, they're a soldier species used to taking orders, and very susceptible to psychic suggestion. Thin men/vipers never seemed to be negotiable, sectoids were creepy fucks even to the ethereals, floaters were constantly self mutilating so I can see them just tearing themselves and whatever else is nearby apart, and the rest are either nonsapient or mechanical in nature.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By the time the invasion of earth starts, most races are beyond saving, their whole species has been turned
            Into a weapon. Believing genetic, cybernetic and psychic moulding of a whole species will just go away once the ethereals are gone is dumb, as is the concept that the ethereals were actively managed Nd controlling each and every member.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And we stole their shit (the ayys) and used them against the elders!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reminder that the ethereals themselves state they gave up on the sectoids for being needlessly cruel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kinda. The sectoids were Gift-compatible, but their innate cowardice and frailty meant they never really developed it beyond a means to torment the various creatures that frightened them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was fine with Chimera Squad but it just came out of left field for me becuase I assumed the aliens troops were bred and engineered to the point of being essentially tools and did not still have anything close to free will.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It varies. Mutons were deemed incapable of independence by the Uber, so it's easy to assume they were kept obedient with mind control and let off the leash with combat drugs - and the floaters were basically failed experiments mangled to the point where the ethereals made them cybernetic suicide soldiers just to get some use out of them. The thin men (and by extension, the viper species) were specifically noted to be both independently intelligent and loyal, so they were presumably capable of acting of their own volition. The Uber also said that the sectoids were intelligent, but their natural cowardice and frailty made them unsuitable as anything but cannon fodder, even with their psionic potential - it's worth noting that the sectoids in 2 have been genetically altered with human DNA to improve their physical and mental abilities. Thus it's easy to infer that the presence of individuals like Verge is a result of the species becoming more human.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i hated the squeal. it was like you playing as a woke guy apart of le resistance! all that it was missing was resistance flag being pride flags. and it felt so dumb not playing as some x-files type organization you know? what was fun was being some topic secrete thing.

      THIS FUCKING RETARDED

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who BTFO the ayys first time cheated or savescummed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Impossible is the Difficulty that lead to XCOM 2.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Xcom 2 is written the way it is because xcom 1 is a game that it is possible to lose and most people that didn't save scum lost at least 1 game.
    they picked the "you lost" ending as the true ending. it doesn't matter that the winning scenario in 1 is an overwhelming victory for humanity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, Marvel game. With XCOM Chimera into this nonsense, I don't have any hype for XCOM3. If it ever comes out and is good, that would be great, it's just not something I'm expecting.

      [...]
      >thats such retarded cope for shitty writing.
      That's literally what it is. And it makes way more sense and is infinitely less shitty than: "lol actually you lost." From the mouth of Jake Solomon himself.

      Refer to pic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the pic says that every player's game is an alternate timeline. every save file is a timeline. thats pokemon logic.
        the "you lose" ending is still the one that got the sequel, that pic confirms it. xcom 2 isn't the alternate timeline according to the pic, everything is an alternate timeline.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, so "you lose" is not "the true ending," it is "one ending."

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The entirety of XCOM:EU was actually just simulations ran on your super-enormous commander brain
    >sequel is you getting broken out and taking revenge on the people who brain-raped you in order to genocide your fellow man
    yeah its pretty neat

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's literally zero reason to play any xcom game other than UFO defense and mods for UFO defense

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The sequels story is grade A fucking trash and everyone involved should be embarrassed.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IT WAS ALL A DREAM

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >game fucking cheats

    Xcom is bullshit. I especially hate how if the aliens stumble upon you, they get a double turn extra move to reposition around you entirely and fuck you over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that pod spotting movement is bullshit and needs to go.
      Otherwise the fights are fine, but me spotting an enemy only for them to all scurry into cover is retarded. My guys don't get to dive for cover, why do the aliens?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >savescum
      Heh, who would do such a thing

      On Veteran and upwards I found myself forced to rush to pods and then reload once I knew their position because Andromedons and Sectopod can just merc half your squad within the double turn

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    xcom2 is what happens if commander didn't git gud or savescum.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >savescum
      Heh, who would do such a thing

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Getting my ass whooped
    >Win a mission with four dead rookies and one alive one because of a great grenade
    >Get a sergant sniper
    >start stomping alien ass
    Many such cases

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you build Snipers usually?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >squadsight
        >high ground
        >assault spec'd into defense and flush
        You have now won the game

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any good recent xcomlikes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mario + Rabbids

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NO

        its not bad, but a lot of the appeal for me in xcom is the tacticool bullshit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Warhammer mechanicus

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just beat my first run on normal, what mods should I pick up for my next play through

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enemy Within.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The sequel had a cooler premise than the OG reboot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reboot’s still a kino setting tbh, I just wish they tweaked it a little and went the Roswell/Area51/1950s shit so the timeline looks closer to this.
      >1950s glowmoron discover aliums
      >work towards understanding and removing any trace of their attacks
      >plan to push them out of the planet
      >succeed, humanity enjoys all the advancements and shit
      >fast forward to modern time
      >get fucked and commander is old now
      >xcom 2 starts
      It’s a shame Xcom declassified turned out like that, it’s a perfect opener to the alium shit, it’s not even a terrible game, just dreadfully mediocre. Wish they’d stuck to their guns and made it something else like the Bioshock clone or something.
      Also I don’t know why you retards are bellyaching over the organization losing, not even 50% of the players who played the first one finished it with the good ending, it was a stroke of genius to set it in a resistance setting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A nucom game but with the bureau 50s aesthetic would be great, spools in suits fighting aliens with Tommy guns and remingtons

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, this is what I really wanted. Does Xenonauts come close to this at all? I just love the whole 1950s look while the everyone tries to maintain that haha nothing wrong here, perfectly good neighbourhood with my nuclear family and shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't Xenonauts take place in the 80s or something?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that the Volunteer is apparently canon to XCOM2 and some maps have crashed firestorms on them suggest that the Commander did surprisingly well despite the ethereals bringing their A-game right from the get-go instead of starting with a covert war.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just hope they get rid of the RNG if they're gonna keep going with the small squad sizes. It worked fine for other games like Mechanicus, Daemonhunter and Phoenix Point, and their problems stemmed from different design problems. Troubleshooter went another other way around and simply made the protagonists a lot tougher, but XCOM isn't a game where you should lead a bunch of protagonists around unless it's a climatic moment.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was an interview about this where they said the reason they made it this way was because most players never got to the victory screen.
    https://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/features/g5668a2027f1fd/Firaxis-talks-XCOM-2/

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My XCOM 2 experience was horrible and it was on Rookie, should I bother buying the DLC? I heard it actually makes the game fun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The DLC is fun, but if you're struggling on Rookie, there's really no help for you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no it wasn't difficult, it was just tedious and started getting boring, it was tough to keep the units alive early on among all the bullshit and curveballs like stun lancers, sectoids and out-of-sight flanking pods that got triggered by combat (one time I threw a grenade at an enemy behind an indoor pillar and the ceiling broke and it revealed the alien pod right above) but when I unlocked psionics and leveled my troops the enemies stopped having any chance of winning, and the final mission was just a "do it at your own pace, no rush" and even with a 2014 GPU on lower graphics the final cutscene lagged horribly and both the video and the audio were desynced. That's Firaxis coding for you. I wanted to start right afterwards on Commander ironman without the tutorial mission but at that point it turned into a pain in the ass (Gatecrasher is merciless and highlights how bad rookies are) and I stopped playing because the Rookie playthrough had already drained my willingness to play. I ask about the DLC because I heard that it makes the game more fun on average, even with the Chosen invading every mission, and that since Firaxis' approach to gameplay design is "off-load any sort of significant optimization or technical improvement to the DLC" that it might generally improve how the game itself feels, considering the size of the DLC once again. Since pirating is not really an option (huge DLC that essentially replaces part of the base game + "totally not a DRM guys" DRM launcher) I can just nab it for cheaper from a key reselling website.

        >should I bother buying the DLC?
        No. But there are mods out there that can make the game easier for you, even on the Rookie difficulty.

        Why not? Does the DLC actually make the game worse?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >should I bother buying the DLC?
      No. But there are mods out there that can make the game easier for you, even on the Rookie difficulty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It does, but if you're getting bodied on Rookie, I wouldn't recommend it. The Chosen can fuck you really hard if you let them, and they have an annoying habit of showing up on timed missions. The good news is that some of their weapons, especially the Hunter's, are hilariously broken, so its worth going after them just for that.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I'm a savescum, any problem?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The RNG seed doesn't change between one loaded save or another, right? I don't seem to recall savescumming helping with the RNG issues in Xcom.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never did it in XCOM but it's pretty simple to rearrange the seeds in other games. E.g. have the guy that misses a shot that causes someone to get killed shoot second instead of first.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there really anyone that would want them to keep dragging out XCOM 2 story shit and not reboot and do the X-Com/XCOM1 initial planet defense scenario again?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Optimal XCOM strat
    >Overwatch Turtle
    Optimal XCOM 2 start
    >Speedrun alpha strike every encounter with grenadiers out the ass
    I wonder what XCOM 3 will be like.

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