>Adaptability + Protean + Double STAB + you can keep your item + literally any Pokemon can use it + it can be literally any type + the opponent can...

>Adaptability + Protean + Double STAB + you can keep your item + literally any Pokemon can use it + it can be literally any type + the opponent can never ever know which Pokemon will trasform and which type they will become

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how does it interact with Protean anyway? can Greninja get double-STAB on any type?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's been dexcut.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't change with Protean so I don't know what op is yammering about. And the only 2 mons who could use Tera type Adaptability are like Porygon-Z and Basculegion

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And the only 2 mons who could use Tera type Adaptability are like Porygon-Z and Basculegion

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tera type doesn't change, but the pokemon's actual underlying type does.

        She's been dexcut.

        Even if Greninja is forced to sit out two generations in a row, Cinderace will be in SV because the gen 7 starters were all in SwSh.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1.5x to 2x is double

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2x is double
      Y-yeah?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        double stab would multiply into eachother, the total STAB multiplier would be 2.25x

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That isn't how damage bonuses are calculated, anon. It's an additive equation.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Explain how

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1.5x1.5 = 2.25
            That’s how much of a bonus Regieleki gets on Electric attacks because it gets the ability multiplier and the STAB multiplier.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          to be fair he said double BONUS not double dmg
          so since the bonus is additive it would be double bonus

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stab is 1.5.
          If you double that, it's 3.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            50% + 50% = 100%, retard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That isn't how damage bonuses are calculated, anon. It's an additive equation.

          to be fair he said double BONUS not double dmg
          so since the bonus is additive it would be double bonus

          Stab is 1.5.
          If you double that, it's 3.

          I feel like we're talking about different numbers here. What's being doubled?
          If STAB is being doubled, then it's 1.5*1.5, or 2.25.
          If damage is being doubled after STAB, then it's 1.5*2, or 3.
          Boosting twice becoming 2x only works for stat boosts. Raise attack once, and it's 1.5x. Raise it twice, and it's 2x.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            STAB is being doubled, not squared. 50% + 50% for a 100% bonus, or 2x.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Where are you getting the information that the multipliers will be added rather than stacked?
              They've never done that before.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They've literally never not had multipliers be additive. Ever.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're completely wrong.
                Think of Dracovish, which is centered on stacking multipliers.
                Fishious Rend is 170 BP if it goes first. 1.5x from STAB, 1.5x from Strong Jaw, 1.5x from Choice Band, and 1.5x from rain. That's effectively 860 BP.
                If it worked the way you think it does, each buff would add 85 BP, making the effective BP "only" 510.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Atleast someone in this thread actually plays the game, holy shit.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no pokémon with Protean/Libero will exist in SV

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Greninja, one of, if not, the most popular Pokémon, cannot be used in any core series Switch game
      That definitely sounds like something GameFreak would do.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WTF WERE THEY THINKING?
    >Pokemon can change type of the fly.
    Basically every turn is a leap of faith because your x4 thunderbolt on Gyarados can become useless if it changes to ground and OHKO your electric Pokemon with STAB Earthquake
    >Broken Pokemon can get insane coverage with Teramoves
    Regileleki can turn Ice, therefore STAB Ice Tera move + Transistor thunderbolt
    >Pokemon with certain abilities can become a pain to deal with
    Shedinja with Normal/Electric only has 1 weakness
    Any Pokemon can get a free set up by turn to Fire or Steel or Electric to become immune to burns, poison or paralysis
    Any Pokemon with x4 weakness can switch type on the fly. Dragonite is x4 weak to Ice? No problem, now you become steel with multiscale.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It only happens once a battle.
      Shedinja will not make the cut.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WTF WERE THEY THINKING?
      >Pokemon can change type of the fly.
      One of their Pokemon can tera per battle. I guarantee Tera types will be placed on team selection vs screen so you know what has what.
      >Broken Pokemon can get insane coverage with Teramoves
      >Regileleki can turn Ice, therefore STAB Ice Tera move + Transistor thunderbolt
      Or, Regileleki can just go Tera Electric And gain extra stab on top of Transistor, which is more likely.
      >Pokemon with certain abilities can become a pain to deal with
      >Shedinja with Normal/Electric only has 1 weakness
      Weather, Your own Tera Type
      >Any Pokemon can get a free set up by turn to Fire or Steel or Electric to become immune to burns, poison or paralysis
      Any Pokemon with x4 weakness can switch type on the fly. Dragonite is x4 weak to Ice? No problem, now you become steel with multiscale.

      You would have to use your one use of Tera on turn 1 just to ignore getting burned? Sure, go ahead and do that, nice waste of your gimmick

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m excited, it’ll turn the game into something more than weakness exploitation and switching featuring stall

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the opponent can never ever know which Pokemon will trasform and which type they will become
    I think they can make an educated guess.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tera type is static unless you change it out of combat with an item. Retard. So if a Tera Type with Protean even exists it's not going to change it's Tera Type once you've Teralyzed it.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You only get the Super STAB if the Tera Typing matches one of the originals.
    So you if you have Volcarona with a Fire Tera Type, it will have only the Fire STAB, which boosts Fire moves by 2 instead if 1.5. How ever, you lose your Bug STAB in the process as well.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the opponent can never ever know which Pokemon will trasform and which type they will become
    We don't know that, PVP might show the Tera Type in the preview. And in PVE unpredictability is nice.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If there is literally no way to see the Tera type, this will be insta banned by Smogon and be fucking cancer for doubles
    If you can see it during the battle preview, this makes things much more fair, but the power boost from same type Tera still remains passive
    Rather than promoting strategies, it's way more likely that Weather/Terrain + Choice item unga bunga will be the preferred way to go
    Like what is gonna survive a Solar Power Choice Specs Fire Blast from Charizard? Your Flash Fire Arcanine who can't do shit back and dies to Scorching Sands?

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