It looks extremely more anime, and not grounded in reality like FF16. Of course, that's what the average person on Ganker prefers. They are childish and prefer games for infants.
>It looks extremely more anime
FF7 was always anime >and not grounded in reality like FF16
Ah, yes. The warrior turning into a kaiju and casting a henkidama is very realistic
Not him, but the original final fantasy 7, while being anime, had a more serious tone. This one looks overy bombastic and very self-indulgent. They keep making ff7 remake more ridiculous with every part they release.
>grounded in reality >like FF16
Ah yes, the very *realistic* and well thought-out world of FF16. Where entire countries just rise from nothing and then collapse from a light breeze, where Sanbreque somehow hasn't already conquered the world when they have an orbital nuke launcher at their disposal, where Rosaria is a duchy for no reason other than the writer thought it would sound cool, where nobody gives a shit when the giant crystals that have supposedly been the center of their civilization, culture, and religion for centuries are destroyed...
The very *realistic* combat of FF16 where the protagonist throws himself at his foes like a projectile armed with nothing but a sword that he might as well just drop into a ditch since he has enough magical power to flick a mountain in half. Where the protagonist sometimes turns into a kaiju whenever the plot Ultima decides that he should. Where he then gets into a fight with another kaiju in which the two giant monsters hit each other for a while, constantly regenerating any damage they sustain which makes it impossible to tell who's supposed to be winning without the arbitrary healthbars, only for the one that isn't the protagonist to arbitrarily lose because the game decided it's time for the fight to be over.
The very *realistic* characters of FF16 who either change allegiances at the drop of a hat or remain steadfast loyal to the protagonist for 10+ years without ever seeing him once in all that time. Where the batshit insane psycho bitch queen decides not to murder the most significant lose end in her scheme because if she didn't murder him the plot wouldn't happen. Where the main character's brother makes no attempt at trying to find him for no reason other than to make the story seem more interesting and mysterious than it really is.
What a great game.
It's gonna be absolute dogshit story-wise but I respect it for trying something new instead of just copy and pasting the original one. Combat is gonna be kino thoughever
Rebirth's sales will probably be even better than Remake's since Ganker is the only place you see hate on it.
Everyone loved Remake when it released on PS4
Everyone loved Remake when it came to PSN
Everyone loved Remake when it came to EGS
Everyone loved Remake when it came to Steam
Everyone loved Remake when they could pirate it on PC (I don't approve of this tho)
Add all these people together and that's millions of people who are going to be hype af to play Rebirth as soon as it comes out. I don't think SE are worried about two or three schizos on Ganker with nitpicks.
Because why the fuck would they wanna write the same story again? Making this a sequel/different timeline is far more interesting than the same story we heard almost 30 years ago.
>cloud dies >aerith and tifa both live >kick barret out of the party and force him to be a stay at home father >launch cid into space so he dies alone after he hits shera >tifa, aerith, and yuffie defeat sephiroth >sephiroth: "how can this be?? what about the future???" >tifa: "the future...." >aerith: "...is..." >all 3 together: "FEMALE!"
chud mass suicide incoming
day 1 buy for sure
I bet that it's going to be revealed that any divergences didn't actually happen and that the entirety of the remake games take place while Cloud is flying through the lifestream to fight Sephiroth at the end of the original.
Either way. Its gonna be nuts, and not in a good way.
They did this last time too, months of trailers that look accurate to the original, all the moments you remember and love, then BAM. Shit like Time Jannies.
>it looks accurate to the original
you're stupid if you don't already predict for the endgame to be you teaming up with Sephiroth and Zack to take down some even greater ultra threat and more magical nonsense
I think the most hilarious part about this trailer is people think they're getting a more faithful remake than part 1 when the back half of this game is almost certainly going to be an even more massive divergence from the original than anything in part 1
That's great.
Really Nomura is arguably the best writer in the industry. He wrote FF7 all by himself and then banger after banger.
He's better than bost literature authors.
God I hated the story in Remake. Not so much that they changed it, but it was just so BORING. Combat was good though, and it looks like it'll be good here too. Hoping for a more open world this time.
Sephiroth is going to combine the two timelines and Zack is going to take over for Cloud when Cloud is either dead or comatose until retard Cloud gets better
They didn't show anything past Vincent's cuck coffin in Nibelheim. Cid is in Rocket Town past the mountain. Probably has the same guest party member role near the end of the game as Red had in the first game.
yet, it plays like shit, just like part 1, and it has three times the LGBT shit shoved right in, trannies will push this game to GOTY, just wait and see, they are THAT simple
>TFW they spoiled aerith lives because she's there in the part with vincent in nibelheim which doesn't happen until just before the northern crater >TFW people will sperg hard because she will survive probably via something extremely dumb.
>>TFW they spoiled aerith lives because she's there in the part with vincent in nibelheim which doesn't happen until just before the northern crater
???????????????????????????
Aeirth will die but not when people expect. The gang (Zach probably) will save her and she will die in part 3 to subvert expectations but also keep it "canon", "fate" being the justification
Your memory is faulty. The visit to Nibelheim, where you can recruit Vincent, then leads through the mountains to Rocket Town where you recruit Cid, then you go on a quest to get the keystone and do the Temple of the Ancients, which is when she leaves the party. then you head north and go through a few areas and then you get to the city of the ancients where she dies.
>7Remake constantly shows cloud having the vision of aeriths death >entire plot point of time jannies is defying fate >kill the harbingers of fate >anons still think shes gonna die
idk how anyone could be this retarded. i do have a feeling theyre gonna do a bait and switch and kill cloud instead, i think that'd be even more heart wrenching. i cant see what other purpose zack would have
>That spoiler block
My bet's on Sephiroth, he shows up way earlier this time and talks Cloud through the Time Janny shit and in the Rebirth trailer we see him getting some moments of mental reflection and becoming full on playable. Probably a grand sacrifice to defy fate with the tragedy being that Cloud finally got to see past the monster he fought in the first loop.
it looks great but that's what all trailers tend to do, look great. It looks like it plays like a shittier version of Tales of Arise like the previous game but people will pretend it doesn't to keep up the hype.
the story is partially botched but I actually really like the gameplay and the 80% of the story that doesn't have nomura's dick wiped on it is still fun
i'm not gonna preorder this shit, though, i'm going to at least gauge how retarded it looks as a finished product
This game is going to be an even bigger departure from the original than the first remake and it's hilarious seeing people gaslight themselves into thinking it will be more pure
a mix of action, party mechanics and turn based is the best for FF. it's always been deviating from then based ever since they introduced ATB-slop. I'm a DQ, SMT, EO and Saga fan. FF combat was good twice: V and X
what XVI did went too far. they straight up removed rpg elements. 7 Remake is the sweet spot
Three, look at the cover.
Timeline of Remake.
Timeline where Sephiroth won.
Timeline where Zack didn't job to grunts probably because Cissnei reached him in time.
>Timeline where Zack didn't job to grunts probably because Cissnei reached him in time.
don't forget Reno and Rude, they were searching for them too. Kind of bizarre how Reno just forgets about Cloud in the base game, unless he never met Cloud in Soldier?
>Reno and Rude are the EVIL Turks.
Not in the remake. They made them question their orders and regret killing the people on and below the plate. They're psychos at best, poorly written at worst, in the original.
Underwhelming tbh, not very impressed. It looks exactly like Remake and that's not a good thing, this is no longer PS4 and we're no longer going through a pandemic. It's like they just reused whatever assets they had.
why do they looks so soulless? I swear the original polygonal models had more expression. I feel like I'm looking at AI art or lifeless dolls. I know Cloud is supposed to be an autistic husk of Zack but I thought he was at least supposed to pull it off or maybe I misread the original.
>Hamaguchi: The development team challenged themselves to give Red XIII a new play style that felt different from the other characters. Red XIII doesn’t just have an ATB gauge but also uses his own unique “revenge gauge” mechanic. His revenge gauge charges when he guards against enemy attacks, and he can spend that charge to use various abilities once the gauge is filled. We’ve designed Red XIII as a new type of character that requires the player to strike a balance between offensive strategy using the ATB gauge and defensive strategy using the revenge gauge.
>Nomura: We have mentioned this a few times before, but the order in which you can explore the locations is not the same as the original Final Fantasy VII, and there are some shifts in the order. For example, Wutai, one of the major locations, is not part of the route in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and will be visited in the next one. Although there are some changes in the order of the locations, the locations depicted in this title extend up to “The Forgotten Capital,” where the greatest fate of Final Fantasy VII awaits you.
>For example, Wutai, one of the major locations, is not part of the route in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and will be visited in the next one.
Gaaaaaaaaay
I really enjoyed the first one and had no problem with the time jannies as an allusion to the online crybabies desperately wanting the story to remain stagnant and unchanged. I’ll get this sooner or later.
looks awesome, shazams gonna have to rely on zoomers to shitpost for him until February. My only real complaint is the ps5 exclusivity, again. Can't say I disagree with all the hate that's gonna generate as we get closer to release, and while I don't like the general casualization and actionification that's been going on since ff13, I don't wanna see them get crucified over a rare good title when they're tanking in the stockmarket and prime to get bought up and transformed into a culture war factory by the literal Satan that is the financial sector
>FF7 ps1 onlies don't even know the already established canon from the myriad of prequels, sequels, and spin offs
Pathetic. You guys call yourselves fans of the series?
Everything is fanfiction till it's officially endorsed. FF7 itself was fanfiction till it became a game. It was fan made fiction for the Final Fantasy series.
gonna let you in on a secret zoomzoom - the original fans who played it on ps1 before mid 2000s found all the tie-in titles to be such letdowns, after so much hype each time and through a lot of bitter disappointment it became clear that everything was a flimsy cash-in bastardization. They're fine games, but they're forever stained in memory
What little I've been unintentionally exposed to is basically: >soldier has more than two people
Shocking! Would have never guessed >Sephiroth is like, everywhere and never dies man
Advent Children. FF7R is just Advent Children: Kinda Different with Twists. Ackdt.
FF7R is ackdt.
Whatever else you want to throw at me is 100% filler in context to a core FF7 game.
So yes, you're right, I never played phone games or crisis core or anything else, won't, and don't fucking care.
>Remake >Rebirth
So what's the name of the third one?
Replace? Restore? Is it just going to be called Final Fantasy 7-2?? What is it? >inb4 hurr le durr it's gonna be called REFUND durrrr
Hilarious and original. So fucking funny.
After the 3rd game of remaking the original game, they'll set up for a 4th game that goes beyond the original game. Then off to a 5th game, and a 6th game, and then a 7th game, and an 8th game, and a 9th game...
>people haven't even played the new mobile game to get the prequel story about young sephiroth and cloud's dad Glenn Lodbrok being part of the first soldiers
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Glenn Lodbrok. There's a reason they included his story into the new mobile game. He's going to be an extremely important plot relevant character.
>schitzo invests hundreds of dollars into first soldier before it shuts down and is on cope that the main character from that shitty game matters for the rest of the year to justify his purchases
Glenn wasn't even part of the Battle Royale game. He was created specifically as part of the stand alone story set after the Battle Royale game exclusive to Ever Crisis. There is no reason to create this new character unless they intended to keep using him. Especially since he has a history with Sephiroth in the story in Ever Crisis.
Timeline where Zack lives is the timeline he wins in, so he's trying to get to that timeline to take over the planet. He'll still get omnislashed. Maybe even double Omnislashed by Cloud AND Zack.
Now that they've thrown out the concept of worlds merging AVALANCHE being dead confirms Cloud will die instead of Aerith.
Aerith and AVALANCHE are dead in Zack's world
Everyone is dead in Sephiroth's world
Zack is dead in Cloud's world.
If these worlds merge Cloud is the only person who has a spare life
>Sephiroth is only usable in the flashback
For now. He'll be playable as a perma member in Part 3 I'd bet a fuck ton on it.
This is sooo shit
SE are a special kind of dumb cunts
It's virtually confirmed already, I wouldn't worry too much about it considering Cid and Vincent are virtually deconfirmed and the combat resources had to go somewhere
Red XIII, Sephiroth, Cait and Zack would put it at 4 new characters - same as the first game
Now that they've thrown out the concept of worlds merging AVALANCHE being dead confirms Cloud will die instead of Aerith.
Aerith and AVALANCHE are dead in Zack's world
Everyone is dead in Sephiroth's world
Zack is dead in Cloud's world.
If these worlds merge Cloud is the only person who has a spare life
>Sephiroth is only usable in the flashback
For now. He'll be playable as a perma member in Part 3 I'd bet a fuck ton on it.
did you forget that epilogue Sephiroth wanted to ally with Cloud? Why do you think he wants to merge the worlds if there's a timeline where he already won? He needs to ally with the good guys to beat the REAL villain
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Anonymous
And why the fuck would it make sense for Sephiroth to become a permanent member even if he's from another timeline where everyone else is dead? He's not Magus. He's not redeemable in the slightest and has been the villain in every story he's been in.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
anon I don't know i you noticed but FF7R is KH-level of retardation
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>time jannies
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Anonymous
It's been far better than any of the fan theories being written by literal mongoloids on the internet. Every speculation has gone so far off the deep end when compared to what they did for the first game. The first game opened up the story for some divergence but the stupid shit FF fans have been coming up with is down right embarrassing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
> He's not redeemable in the slightest and has been the villain in every story he's been in.
Not in Crisis Core.
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Anonymous
He was still very much a secondary villain as Crisis Core was meant to show you his story leading up to 7.
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Anonymous
>He's not redeemable in the slightest
They made Sephiroth change his pronoun back to "pre-crazy" for a reason bro
He doesn't need to be redeemable he just needs to not be the biggest fish to fry
I've already accepted the final boss of the trilogy is gonna be Genesis and Jenova doing some fucking dumb team up bullshit so they can do some sort of the beginning and the end motif.
It looks like the story will be shit and the game will be railroaded, just like the last one. After KH3 and FF7R I'm never buying another Nomura game, and after FFXV and XVI I'm probably not buying any new FF games in general.
first thing I ever jacked off to was hentai of Tifa getting eiffel towered by two faceless dark dudes with distinctly beige looking jizz coming out both holes
So it's sold almost as much as the original, that's a huge success, especially since they can sell it two more times to the same people while reusing a lot of assets.
There really werent enough remakes for your gay ass comparison. But RE2,3,4 remake all sold a ton. 3 sold the least but Its done 7 million by now. Remake2 sold 12.6 million copies. Probably double by now. So FF7 failed in comparison
So it's sold almost as much as the original, that's a huge success, especially since they can sell it two more times to the same people while reusing a lot of assets.
the original FF7 has sold 14 million
the psx by the time ff7 released also had much smaller installbase than ps4
But they are setting themselves up for extreme bed shitting with these story tweaks, feel like this will end up being the video game ending equivalent of Game of Thrones or How I Met Your Mother.
I mean some are okay, but they are going really waaay out there with it.
they've fucking murdered the chocobo race stages clearly don't give a shit about preserving any of the soul of the original game
look the fuck is this, how does this not just look sad to anybody
>they've fucking murdered the chocobo race stages clearly don't give a shit about preserving any of the soul of the original game
??????????????????
at least it looks like a real minigame and not the original shit
I'm not a great fan of it, but chocobo racing was more than a full-fledged minigame. It had strong mechanical depth (for you to bypass by feeding every chocobo 99 of the best greens).
Snowboarding > Chronobind > Crazy motorcycle > Triple Triad > the rest of Final Fantasies' minigames don't matter.
Budget and technology are not a replacement for passion and talent. It's not that hard to figure out my little cute zom zom anon. Devs in the 00 and before had to work with limitations that forced them to be more creative. The fact that budgets were much smaller also gave them way more creative freedom. Now with the rise of technology and financial risks, the devs have become lazier, less skilled, and less creative.
Yep, this is clearly Square at it's best. I have very high hopes, vast majority of their games are mediocre thrash but Once or twice a decade they drop a top 100 of all time games contender.
Its utterly bizarre and retarded the fact the new game remake is a sequel where you have to play the original to make sense out of it. I mean, I dont care since I played the original game 25 years ago, but dude, it was 25 YEARS ago.
Also no one wanted a 1:1 remake, they wanted the original plot and game with new graphics/gameplay. Literally no one asked for a remake thats actually a sequel. Not me, not you, no one ever did. You could have made a straight sequel, an updated remake, even a 1:1 remake and no one would have complained.
I will fix FF7 remake for you in like 5 seconds and make everyone happy:
>Main Campaign is like FF7 original plot, no time jannies, Sephiroth is revealed slowly and built upon >After you finish the game... >NEW GAME PLUS >Here you have the new remixed timeline
The same shit Nier automata pulled. So newcommers dont get fucked, people who wanted something new get something new, people who wanted a remake get a remake. Its so fucking easy its unreal, the timejanny campaign is not a new game plus
>the new game remake is a sequel where you have to play the original to make sense out of it
This trope's been done multiple times by this point such the Evangelion Rebuilds or even Blaster Master Zero to a lesser extent.
You have to remember their market for this isn't oldschool fans, it's the modern mainstream gaming market so they don't need to and really don't want to stick to the original blueprints. They want to throw things in peoples faces quick and early so they fall for the hype surrounding things they've heard about the original (they probably haven't played).
Realistically Sephiroth shouldn't have been shown at all in the first game but that wouldn't sell copies to secondary fans who know of him through other media now would it?
>You have to remember their market for this isn't oldschool fans
Which also doesnt make sense because the game expects you to have played the original specially with Sephiroth since in the remake he just comes out and misses the whole setup of the original. So you dont get the wtf moment if you havent played the original. Nor even understand why he is big deal.
>8 fucking years of work to make two shitty over budget filler remake games
Fuck this industry and SE for wanting to be like greedy AAA Western corporate cucks
Same. I still want to shoot up all higher ups in Tokyo at SE headquarters tho. Bunch of fucking retards who fell for "muh heckoerino AAAilo graphixo!!! and heckerino realsisimno animationono!!!!" meme that made the industry get fucked beyond repair in the 2010s. Back in the 00s it only took like 2 or 3 years max to make an incredible and revolutionary game with unique style because devs had brains and knew their fucking limits. What's worse is that SE fell for the meme so hard that now they want to ape the West as much as possible with that GoT garbage in XVI.
Even if that was true and it isn't because FF7's marketing alone made it one the most expensive games still to this day basically, SE has been going for amazing spectacle since like FF6 its not really new. Unless you truly believed a world existed where a FF would still look like a higher budget bravely default or something. You have no one to blame but yourself.
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>Even if that was true
It is true retard. What was considered cutting edge and time/budget consuming is nothing compared to what SE makes today. Back then they made way more games and they did it way faster because the budgets were way smaller and actually reasonable. It didn't take them 15 years to release one game. They were not an overblown corporation with millions of people. No one wanted them to become an overblown whale that they are now. They transformed into it because of their own never ending greed.
my point is that cloud believed he was zack, dude...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kinda difficult to understand this from your sentence
w-what leak
w-what leak
>New NIER is already in development >Story takes place in Kingdom of the Night which is on Dark side of the world >The plot will revolve around the protagonists of the first part and the refugee androids, who at the time of the events of NieR: Automata were already in the dark part of the earth and hiding from the Command, but do not yet know about the events that occurred at the end of the first part >The soundtrack is produced by students of Keiichi Okabe from MONACA Team.
I won`t say more and this information will be buried here.
i mean cloud and zack were both competent soldiers.
Yes but the original point of the fucking flashback in the previous game was to show just how CRAZY strong sephiroth was. You had 300 hp and he had like 3k. You die in one hit and do 30 damage to the dragon. He fucking auto casts Life 2 (a spell you havent seen before) and does 3k in a regular attack
Please Square, keep going with more mature tone of FF16, me and others at our limit containing cringe when watching trailers for FF7R.
Please keep making new mainline games for actual adults not 9 year old lobotomy patients.
I really want to get into KH I love autistic deep-lore shit that actually commits to its worldbuilding and takes years of build up.
I am starved now that MGS is dead and Deltarune is a long time away, and there is no Nier/Drakengard on the horizon.
This is probably the worst decision I could make but I see no other choice
I watched multiple KH lore videos. Even after watching multiple it still makes almost no sense. Legitimately the lore video by gay dunkey actually does the best job at explaining it.,
I mean, I don't just care about "le deep lore", I want a game with a big, rich world that gradually opens up without the sitcom syndrome, characters that undergo development across multiple games, and gameplay that's at least fun enough to tie it all together.
Sadly, I don't know many games that satisfy these criteria.
Metal Gear Solid
Legacy of Kain
Drakengard/Nier
Megaman Zero (X somewhat but not really)
Megaman StarForce even though 2 is a filler slump mostly
Blaster Master Zero (seriously, play it, each game expands on the previous game story-wise and gameplay wise, it's so good)
Trails of
Kingdom Hearts
Ace Attorney kinda by this point but they really try to make each game standalone as to not scare off the casual audience
Zero Escape if you treat ZTD as a fanfic
To the Moon kinda sorta
There are also cases of "distant" soft-sequels such as Zelda and Castlevania, CV more so but still not enough
Honestly can't think of much else, it's a shame
I hope the Hypnospace Outlaw guys do something with that budding universe of theirs
I mean, I don't just care about "le deep lore", I want a game with a big, rich world that gradually opens up without the sitcom syndrome, characters that undergo development across multiple games, and gameplay that's at least fun enough to tie it all together.
Sadly, I don't know many games that satisfy these criteria.
You can do much better than Kingdom Hearts for that shit.
Start with Homestuck if you didn't already. Bonus points for Toby Fox music. Just make sure to get the unofficial offline version that has all the extra content.
I do have the Offline Homestuck Collection, just started reading it recently in fact. It's not a game though, but I hope it tides me over before the next chapter of DR and UT Yellow.
Keep in mind, KH makes zero sense until it all makes sense at once due to a big reveal.
It comes in waves like that.
Right now, it seems we're hitting the Alchemy, Kabbalah phase of the lore with the current stuff.
Pretty good, considering the FF7R (aka remake of the most legendary FF game) only sold 7 million copies and solidified Nomura as a fucking hack while Yoshi-P still sits on top of SE makes me feel pretty good not gonna lie.
Yeah and judging by how the xiv money is dropping, the SE shares dropping and this new game being a disappointment he will not direct another FF game unless the next one is a mmo
>tries to expand Final Fantasy by turning Final Fantasy into a ripoff of a series that sells less than Final Fantasy >it backfires and his game is blamed for the company's recent downfalls
Yoshida is a god damn moron.
Your director is an uninspiring hack copying Wow, DMC and GOT
He rejected being ceo boardchairmen and after xvi poor sales he is a little more fucked
Holy fucking cope.
Anyways, as I said, Tardmura can work on some shitty remakes on Unreal Engine (kek) on the side, while Yoshi-P leads with his own new engine and biggest MMO on the market that makes an actual money.
XIV and DQX's got no expansion till probably July revenue being down isn't too surprising if anything SE should be worrying about it's aging gachas that have for the first time in literally a few years performed worse in a quarterly than their HD Games section and that was with one game vs the like 12 gachas they have running.
>tries to expand Final Fantasy by turning Final Fantasy into a ripoff of a series that sells less than Final Fantasy >it backfires and his game is blamed for the company's recent downfalls
Yoshida is a god damn moron.
>Hey Chat GPT 15 >grab the assets of the ff7 remake and make an actual remake of the game >remove compilation gayry >actually make 2 versions of the game, one with fixed camera angles and turn based, and one with modern gameplay
We just have to wait. AI slop cant be worse than this.
Sure it looks good, but then so did the first one. Then the game came out and it was revealed to be more linear than the first game's Midgar somehow, but stretched out over the course of 30+ hours. Not a fun time.
It's almost as if there were bots in this thread. "no open world" complains while ignoring the chocobo stuff (probably didn't even watch the trailer, or bot).
umm wheres the grimdark gaysex? this isnt final fantasy..
It looks extremely more anime, and not grounded in reality like FF16. Of course, that's what the average person on Ganker prefers. They are childish and prefer games for infants.
Yeah, that's exactly what I want. You're a gay who hates fun. Not everything needs to be so serious anon.
sorry ill have gay sex with you to make it realistic
Cry more, Yoshida dickrider. No one wants your shit game and no, it's not grounded in reality, it's just badly written trash.
>not grounded in reality
Did you forget these are Final FANTASY games?
>It looks extremely more anime
FF7 was always anime
>and not grounded in reality like FF16
Ah, yes. The warrior turning into a kaiju and casting a henkidama is very realistic
Not him, but the original final fantasy 7, while being anime, had a more serious tone. This one looks overy bombastic and very self-indulgent. They keep making ff7 remake more ridiculous with every part they release.
>after Aerith dies you go snowboarding down a mountain doing tricks
>had a more serious tone
Sure bro
And it's gonna outsell FF16, because anime is far more mainstream than whatever last decade garbage FF16 was trying to ape.
FF16 was boring and looked like absolute dogshit, but that's what you get for letting MMOdevfags make a mainline game.
>boring
not a valid complaint
>grounded in reality
>like FF16
Ah yes, the very *realistic* and well thought-out world of FF16. Where entire countries just rise from nothing and then collapse from a light breeze, where Sanbreque somehow hasn't already conquered the world when they have an orbital nuke launcher at their disposal, where Rosaria is a duchy for no reason other than the writer thought it would sound cool, where nobody gives a shit when the giant crystals that have supposedly been the center of their civilization, culture, and religion for centuries are destroyed...
The very *realistic* combat of FF16 where the protagonist throws himself at his foes like a projectile armed with nothing but a sword that he might as well just drop into a ditch since he has enough magical power to flick a mountain in half. Where the protagonist sometimes turns into a kaiju whenever the plot Ultima decides that he should. Where he then gets into a fight with another kaiju in which the two giant monsters hit each other for a while, constantly regenerating any damage they sustain which makes it impossible to tell who's supposed to be winning without the arbitrary healthbars, only for the one that isn't the protagonist to arbitrarily lose because the game decided it's time for the fight to be over.
The very *realistic* characters of FF16 who either change allegiances at the drop of a hat or remain steadfast loyal to the protagonist for 10+ years without ever seeing him once in all that time. Where the batshit insane psycho bitch queen decides not to murder the most significant lose end in her scheme because if she didn't murder him the plot wouldn't happen. Where the main character's brother makes no attempt at trying to find him for no reason other than to make the story seem more interesting and mysterious than it really is.
What a great game.
It's gonna be absolute dogshit story-wise but I respect it for trying something new instead of just copy and pasting the original one. Combat is gonna be kino thoughever
Rebirth's sales will probably be even better than Remake's since Ganker is the only place you see hate on it.
Everyone loved Remake when it released on PS4
Everyone loved Remake when it came to PSN
Everyone loved Remake when it came to EGS
Everyone loved Remake when it came to Steam
Everyone loved Remake when they could pirate it on PC (I don't approve of this tho)
Add all these people together and that's millions of people who are going to be hype af to play Rebirth as soon as it comes out. I don't think SE are worried about two or three schizos on Ganker with nitpicks.
>It wasn't actually a failure, everyone loved it
Why are you so fanatical about this company? Odds are they were never good/relevant inside your vidya playing years
What was fanatical about what they said?
In an industry sense there is no way to look at FF7 remake other than a huge failure
square could've just remade the game with minimal changes and sold like 40 million copies
they literally jerk themselves off all day, dehydrate it and then smoke it mixed with crack
>actual reddit spacing
Calm down bud, it's your bedtime. School is tomorrow.
The game didn't sell very well so to act like "everyone loved it" is retarded
It looks...mysteriously accurate to the original.
Whats your game, Nomura?
it was always gonna be the same as the og, but throw some curve balls
I fear what the curve balls will be. You know they're coming.
Like Aerith surviving and Tifa dying instead or some shit.
If Tifa dies, will someone actually attempt to take Nomuras life?
Well, he isn't overseeing it anymore and the shit ideas usually came from Nojima.
And kitase the retard wanted to wipe all the non playable party at the return to midgar
kys trip gay
They'd never do something that took actual balls
They won’t do that. It’s just to give you a little hope Aerith will survive just to kill her the same way.
stfu boco
You know I’m right!!
Why the fuck couldn’t we have just gotten a straight remake? It would have sold just as well…
Because why the fuck would they wanna write the same story again? Making this a sequel/different timeline is far more interesting than the same story we heard almost 30 years ago.
Nobody would buy $200 worth of 3 games just to replay the same plot beat for beat but with le pretty grafix and action based combat
>Nobody would buy $200 worth of 3 games just to replay the same plot beat for beat but with le pretty grafix and action based combat
Reality proves me right, hence the ff7 remake series.
I would live it if it just became Aerith jumping universe to universe trying to save her own life.
as a shipfag, i fear aerith and zack are gonna be reunited. please dont cuck cloud....
>cloud dies
>aerith and tifa both live
>kick barret out of the party and force him to be a stay at home father
>launch cid into space so he dies alone after he hits shera
>tifa, aerith, and yuffie defeat sephiroth
>sephiroth: "how can this be?? what about the future???"
>tifa: "the future...."
>aerith: "...is..."
>all 3 together: "FEMALE!"
chud mass suicide incoming
day 1 buy for sure
lol people like you are going to be so ass fucked when the end of 2 completely diverges from the the original
I bet that it's going to be revealed that any divergences didn't actually happen and that the entirety of the remake games take place while Cloud is flying through the lifestream to fight Sephiroth at the end of the original.
>Whats your game, Nomura?
The Zack universe plotline.
I wouldn't speak so soon
>Nomura
You mean Nojima, the guy who writes all the crazy shit for Nomura.
Either way. Its gonna be nuts, and not in a good way.
They did this last time too, months of trailers that look accurate to the original, all the moments you remember and love, then BAM. Shit like Time Jannies.
It will be nuts, in a good way. It can go no other way after the ending of the first game.
Or it can follow the trajectory of Kingdom Hearts and be simultaneously random and extremely boring.
>it looks accurate to the original
you're stupid if you don't already predict for the endgame to be you teaming up with Sephiroth and Zack to take down some even greater ultra threat and more magical nonsense
Oh, I know. Thats why seeing all the old stuff is like salt in the wound.
I think the most hilarious part about this trailer is people think they're getting a more faithful remake than part 1 when the back half of this game is almost certainly going to be an even more massive divergence from the original than anything in part 1
That's great.
Really Nomura is arguably the best writer in the industry. He wrote FF7 all by himself and then banger after banger.
He's better than bost literature authors.
are you retarded?
so did the trailers to remake, remember how that went?
ksks skksksks
Accurate? Are you fucking retarded?
You clearly never played the original, retard.
Nomura is at best a consultant.
Toriyama makes this slop, his garbage is all over it.
It definitely reminded me of the more fun parts of the original.
Sephiroth seems gayer in the remake though.
It does, I will pre order it and 100% it just like I did with REMAKE
defiantly look's cheaper then the first part. in the animations exp
It looks like they're desperate to be done with it
> 29th february
> Nomura does it again
>It looks fucking glorious
looks being the keyword. The writing and dialogue are still terrible.
wake me up when they announce an actual complete remake with the whole story at reasonable price
Story looks like a absolute mess, but the original FFVII stuff looks good. ie: Junon parade, Golden Saucer, etc.
>gazillion of FF fans will die before they finish releasing the last part of this remake
more Tifa is a win for me
Too Hispanic.
>The cover has Cloud, Sephiroth and Zack.
Yeah so that joke about Zack swooping in and stopping Sephiroth from killing Aerith might actually happen.
I've already made my peace with aerith living, zack saving her is the only way I'll be happy about it.
Rufus isn't intimidating enough
You know what? Fuck it, i'm on board, show me what nonsense you got up your zipped up sleeves, Nomura.
Still going to wait until all 3 parts are released and on PC.
PS5 HAS NO GAMES
ALSO ON PC
you made it sound like it was on pc at release this time. doesn't look to be the case?
There`s like 10 threads of this garbage with no replies, fuck off already
Is there good 3d porn of yuffie, i actually completely forgot she was in the dlc and had a 3d model
idk but the 3d porn of Cloud is incredible
God I hated the story in Remake. Not so much that they changed it, but it was just so BORING. Combat was good though, and it looks like it'll be good here too. Hoping for a more open world this time.
Sephiroth is going to combine the two timelines and Zack is going to take over for Cloud when Cloud is either dead or comatose until retard Cloud gets better
The game is shit, it was cyberpunk aesthetics in the original
Way to ruin it, Nomurahack
Cyberpunk was midgar then rest of the gsme its the aversge rpg of lefts chase the bad guy
>he doesn't know about Costa del Sol
zoom zoom
>Nomura confirmed the game ends at the halfway mark.
Oh shit, we're gonna get the full party by the end of the game.
>Oh shit, we're gonna get the full party by the end of the game.
lol
WHERE IS CID
Disc 2.
cid shows up on disc 1 in the original, though. You get him before Temple of the Ancients.
not PC enough. it's over
They didn't show anything past Vincent's cuck coffin in Nibelheim. Cid is in Rocket Town past the mountain. Probably has the same guest party member role near the end of the game as Red had in the first game.
>it will take them three games just to get through disc 1
>12 years to get through one game
>probaby will sequel bait with advent children and dirge of cerberus
Tifa dying instead of Aeris?
> im waiting, clown
Did they meta talked to pc players?
It looks good, I will buy it
CHOCOBO GP IN SHAMBLES
Bait
Man I fucking hate Square for fucking up GP so bad.
yet, it plays like shit, just like part 1, and it has three times the LGBT shit shoved right in, trannies will push this game to GOTY, just wait and see, they are THAT simple
unfortunate the release date is 2025 but we'll take it
do you fucking fucks even own a fucking ps5
Why not just call it FF 17 and then make it however you want?
Why shit in the mouth of FF7 fans?
What did I ever do to these developers to make them so mad at me?
They don't think they're shitting in your mouth. They think you'll love gay stalker Sephiroth and time jannies.
I just got to get a ps5 , I really don’t wanna
Wonder where it will leave off this time. Seems like sephiroth is trying to merge worlds so he can be stronger or be in a timeline he survives in
>TFW they spoiled aerith lives because she's there in the part with vincent in nibelheim which doesn't happen until just before the northern crater
>TFW people will sperg hard because she will survive probably via something extremely dumb.
>>TFW they spoiled aerith lives because she's there in the part with vincent in nibelheim which doesn't happen until just before the northern crater
???????????????????????????
what teh fuck are you talking about retard
Aeirth will die but not when people expect. The gang (Zach probably) will save her and she will die in part 3 to subvert expectations but also keep it "canon", "fate" being the justification
Your memory is faulty. The visit to Nibelheim, where you can recruit Vincent, then leads through the mountains to Rocket Town where you recruit Cid, then you go on a quest to get the keystone and do the Temple of the Ancients, which is when she leaves the party. then you head north and go through a few areas and then you get to the city of the ancients where she dies.
The ABSOLUTE STATE of FFVIIR haters, getting actual facts wrong while calling FFVIIR things dumb.
>7Remake constantly shows cloud having the vision of aeriths death
>entire plot point of time jannies is defying fate
>kill the harbingers of fate
>anons still think shes gonna die
idk how anyone could be this retarded. i do have a feeling theyre gonna do a bait and switch and kill cloud instead, i think that'd be even more heart wrenching. i cant see what other purpose zack would have
>That spoiler block
My bet's on Sephiroth, he shows up way earlier this time and talks Cloud through the Time Janny shit and in the Rebirth trailer we see him getting some moments of mental reflection and becoming full on playable. Probably a grand sacrifice to defy fate with the tragedy being that Cloud finally got to see past the monster he fought in the first loop.
it looks great but that's what all trailers tend to do, look great. It looks like it plays like a shittier version of Tales of Arise like the previous game but people will pretend it doesn't to keep up the hype.
YES, the story looks and sounds completely retarded.
YES, they should have just gone with a straight remake
YES, this game looks super fun anyways
YES, I will preorder this nonsensical game
YES, I will have fun.
>I like to support bad things
ok, Bin Laden
the story is partially botched but I actually really like the gameplay and the 80% of the story that doesn't have nomura's dick wiped on it is still fun
i'm not gonna preorder this shit, though, i'm going to at least gauge how retarded it looks as a finished product
Why was the Junon cannon firing? That's disc 2.
>Why isn't (Game that is not based on the source material game) accurate to the source material?
Puristfags keep setting themselves up for disappointment
This game is going to be an even bigger departure from the original than the first remake and it's hilarious seeing people gaslight themselves into thinking it will be more pure
Celebatory boom boom for new president.
Firing that huge-ass cannon must cost like 1,000,000,000 gil.
Now rufus its more american so he shoot for celebration like texans
watching you stupid zoomzoom gays get excited for this action slop is exactly why ff is dead.
7 remake isn't action slop . it's good action.
>good
>action
ff is a turn BASED series. this shit will flop just like 16 because they keep ignoring their core audience.
a mix of action, party mechanics and turn based is the best for FF. it's always been deviating from then based ever since they introduced ATB-slop. I'm a DQ, SMT, EO and Saga fan. FF combat was good twice: V and X
what XVI did went too far. they straight up removed rpg elements. 7 Remake is the sweet spot
So Reunion now means the merging of the 2 timelines
Three, look at the cover.
Timeline of Remake.
Timeline where Sephiroth won.
Timeline where Zack didn't job to grunts probably because Cissnei reached him in time.
No because time jannies deleted some of the stupid dinasty warriors quantity od enemies that were after zack
>Timeline where Zack didn't job to grunts probably because Cissnei reached him in time.
don't forget Reno and Rude, they were searching for them too. Kind of bizarre how Reno just forgets about Cloud in the base game, unless he never met Cloud in Soldier?
The chink boss only knows about cloud
Cloud never was SOLDIER
No, she'll die in Part 3 after surviving part 2
Reno and Rude are the EVIL Turks. Cissnei is Zack's cocksleeve so she makes more sense.
Also gives him a party member to use.
I can't believe Sephiroth is merging the timelines just to make Cissnei canon.
Cissnei was always canon, she left Turks after Zack died and the Turks game.
I don't remember that coming up in FF7.
Because it's my headcanon.
>Reno and Rude are the EVIL Turks.
Not in the remake. They made them question their orders and regret killing the people on and below the plate. They're psychos at best, poorly written at worst, in the original.
especially near endgame with the optional fight with rude,reno, and elena and you can just let them help evacuate the citizens of Midgar.
Even the rookie Turks are villains. You kidnap and enslave people into the SOLDIER program in Before Crisis.
>Newfag detected
Cloud never was part of SOLDIER.
this whole thing is making me feel like Nomura watched Twin Peaks: The Return and was profoundly inspired.
Okay I'm hyped as fuck seeing that shit. But, who is the mysterious caped guy with the red beard in the Junon parade? Any guesses?
jeffrey epstein
Some Kingdom hearts goofy motherfucker
>But, who is the mysterious caped guy with the red beard in the Junon parade? Any guesses?
The guy of the first soldier glenn , so we have jack garland at home meme
No Glenn is blonde and he's immediatly shown trying to tard wrangle Sephiroth when he's looking for Loveless boi so he dies during Crisis Core 100%
I thought Genesis turned all grey after degrading?
you're right, but Weiss and Underground picked Genesis up and who knows what they're up to. Maybe we'll learn more with Vincent.
My little chunni boy cannot possibly be this cute
Probably some new bullshit character like a living ramuh
he was really interested in Rufus for some reason.
for me to shit on.
everything wrong with the gaming industry tied up in a neat little package. fuck yourself if you buy this shlock.
I have never seen the appead of Final Fantasy.
Underwhelming tbh, not very impressed. It looks exactly like Remake and that's not a good thing, this is no longer PS4 and we're no longer going through a pandemic. It's like they just reused whatever assets they had.
BUGGIE, CHECK
CHOCOBO VARIETY, CHECK CHECK
GOLD SAUCER AND GAMES, CHECK
INSANE SCOPE, CHECK
Yeah...I'm thinking we're back...
Nothing makes me happier than looking at the Squeenix Stock Price rn.
Hope this trash company crashes and burns for good this time.
Cait Sith is going to be my main.
mein Black
why do they looks so soulless? I swear the original polygonal models had more expression. I feel like I'm looking at AI art or lifeless dolls. I know Cloud is supposed to be an autistic husk of Zack but I thought he was at least supposed to pull it off or maybe I misread the original.
>Hamaguchi: The development team challenged themselves to give Red XIII a new play style that felt different from the other characters. Red XIII doesn’t just have an ATB gauge but also uses his own unique “revenge gauge” mechanic. His revenge gauge charges when he guards against enemy attacks, and he can spend that charge to use various abilities once the gauge is filled. We’ve designed Red XIII as a new type of character that requires the player to strike a balance between offensive strategy using the ATB gauge and defensive strategy using the revenge gauge.
Red confirmed to be for counter fags
It brought a tear to my eye but not in the good way. A part of my soul was just injured.
After Baldurs Gate 3 I just can't look at games like this anymore, they're so disappointing in comparison
baldurs gate 3 vs JOSHYOOAH!!!!
>Nomura: We have mentioned this a few times before, but the order in which you can explore the locations is not the same as the original Final Fantasy VII, and there are some shifts in the order. For example, Wutai, one of the major locations, is not part of the route in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and will be visited in the next one. Although there are some changes in the order of the locations, the locations depicted in this title extend up to “The Forgotten Capital,” where the greatest fate of Final Fantasy VII awaits you.
I have faith, they will kill Barret instead.
Then ill care and cry its the only good remake character
>For example, Wutai, one of the major locations, is not part of the route in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and will be visited in the next one.
Gaaaaaaaaay
as i expected
Did they remove the overworld? This looks more like a bunch of smaller interconnected maps
That's because it is.
the combat looks so uncomfy... i miss turn based
It's been over twenty years, get over it and play a different franchise already.
Oh it looks beautiful no doubt. Too bad it plays like shit and they fucked up the story.
So will Aerith die in Rebirth or no? I need to know in case I need tissues on hand in case I fap during the scene
WHERE'S MARLENE!?!?!!?
you freaks leave marlene alone. you can have your e-boi.. but not marlene.
Don't worry pedofag, you'll get the dolphin girl to fap to
Cant wait this moron getting his skin recycled for NTR expansion of chud fantasy xiv
you are a porn addict
you are a porn addict
>he thinks seeing "NTR" anywhere and throwing a tantrum over it is an argument against him being a porn addict
legitimate mental illness, seek help
Nomura Full Control is Imminent.
Final Fantasy died with XVI and the MMO devs.
And now it is Reborn with Nomura.
The Age of Art is Upon Us.
I really enjoyed the first one and had no problem with the time jannies as an allusion to the online crybabies desperately wanting the story to remain stagnant and unchanged. I’ll get this sooner or later.
looks awesome, shazams gonna have to rely on zoomers to shitpost for him until February. My only real complaint is the ps5 exclusivity, again. Can't say I disagree with all the hate that's gonna generate as we get closer to release, and while I don't like the general casualization and actionification that's been going on since ff13, I don't wanna see them get crucified over a rare good title when they're tanking in the stockmarket and prime to get bought up and transformed into a culture war factory by the literal Satan that is the financial sector
100% agree with everything here
>inb4 squareenix gets shinra'd
will Zack finally read those 88 letters from Aerith?
>FF7 ps1 onlies don't even know the already established canon from the myriad of prequels, sequels, and spin offs
Pathetic. You guys call yourselves fans of the series?
>fanfiction enjoyer
Everything is fanfiction till it's officially endorsed. FF7 itself was fanfiction till it became a game. It was fan made fiction for the Final Fantasy series.
noncanon
gonna let you in on a secret zoomzoom - the original fans who played it on ps1 before mid 2000s found all the tie-in titles to be such letdowns, after so much hype each time and through a lot of bitter disappointment it became clear that everything was a flimsy cash-in bastardization. They're fine games, but they're forever stained in memory
Unless Rebirth opens with someone saying "Hey, remember Genesis?" it's all non canon bullshit to me.
You're right, I don't know the fanfiction.
What little I've been unintentionally exposed to is basically:
>soldier has more than two people
Shocking! Would have never guessed
>Sephiroth is like, everywhere and never dies man
Advent Children. FF7R is just Advent Children: Kinda Different with Twists. Ackdt.
FF7R is ackdt.
Whatever else you want to throw at me is 100% filler in context to a core FF7 game.
So yes, you're right, I never played phone games or crisis core or anything else, won't, and don't fucking care.
>FF7R is just Advent Children
FF7R literally retconned Advent Children already.
Wish FF7R was as fun as Advent Children.
I meant it is comparable in story design with the plots and characters and oohhweeeeeee super sephiroth comes from everywhere
Fist sword gun is a stapple of FF. That doesnt mean shit.
inb4 the new chocobos are basically minigame areas like the hand-cranes in part 1
>Remake
>Rebirth
So what's the name of the third one?
Replace? Restore? Is it just going to be called Final Fantasy 7-2?? What is it?
>inb4 hurr le durr it's gonna be called REFUND durrrr
Hilarious and original. So fucking funny.
Retold.
I 100% believe the endgame for Cloud and friends is to undo the timeline fuckery. There's no fucking way it goes anywhere else.
After the 3rd game of remaking the original game, they'll set up for a 4th game that goes beyond the original game. Then off to a 5th game, and a 6th game, and then a 7th game, and an 8th game, and a 9th game...
We Kingdom Hearts now, bro.
reunion
good god, anon, it's going to be called reunion, you dense motherfucker
Nah, I thought that too but Crisis Core already took Reunion.
I think it will be Return (to the Lifestream etc.)
Return would be great because lifestream is all about that.
Remake
Rebirth
Red XIII
Remoron
>the Hojo edition
ReDEMPTIONNNNNNNN
Also works, they can tease Sephiroth redemption in trailers etc.
Oh wait, I forgot that Aerith is likeable in the remake. We can't let Zack have her, boys.
She actually has a personality, crazy right?
And she says things that a person would say. Outrageous.
I can't wait for their reunion
Vincent side-game dlc will be like retrograde. It will show a glimpse of how he plays. The question is, who'll be the villain?
>who'll be the villain?
weiss and underground. maybe a cameo of Omega. Though I much rather have Cid DLC.
Cant wait to play in June on PC
Vincent Valentine
>world map confirmed
kino is back
It was the only thing worthwhile in the entire presentation.
>people haven't even played the new mobile game to get the prequel story about young sephiroth and cloud's dad Glenn Lodbrok being part of the first soldiers
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>cloud's dad Glenn Lodbrok
that's not his dad i heard.
>Glenn Lodbrok
But Cloud's last name is Strife
>he thinks the guy who couldn't even remember he wasn't Zack has any clue about his real name
He's making shit up to fuck with people, ignore him.
I see you haven't played Ever Crisis yet.
unless he took his mothers last name?
>schitzo invests hundreds of dollars into first soldier before it shuts down and is on cope that the main character from that shitty game matters for the rest of the year to justify his purchases
Uh bro they're talking about evercrisis
>captcha: NTRRM
Glenn wasn't even part of the Battle Royale game. He was created specifically as part of the stand alone story set after the Battle Royale game exclusive to Ever Crisis. There is no reason to create this new character unless they intended to keep using him. Especially since he has a history with Sephiroth in the story in Ever Crisis.
He is just discount jack Garland with shonen anime personality
>Ruining FF7
>Glorious
I guess for some people yeah.
I'm sorry, retard. Are you incapable of playing the original FF7 or something? Dumb fuck.
I look forward to seeing you cry in these threads yet again when the 3rd game is announced
who's the hooded dude with the beard?
Master Xehanort.
X-BLADE
this could actually be real and Ganker would explode
Glenn Lodbrok. There's a reason they included his story into the new mobile game. He's going to be an extremely important plot relevant character.
Angel/Genesis cause bullshit underground experiment
>burns down your house and family town
heh nothing personal kid, also i'm a good guy now, we gotta merge universes because... BECAUSE WE JUST DO OKAY???
Timeline where Zack lives is the timeline he wins in, so he's trying to get to that timeline to take over the planet. He'll still get omnislashed. Maybe even double Omnislashed by Cloud AND Zack.
Nah, the key art has 3 different skies. The Zack timeline and the Sephiroth wins timeline are distinct
will part 3 have us playing sephiroth?
This is sooo shit
SE are a special kind of dumb cunts
They just need to confirm you can play as Zack. I don't want to get cockblocked with only cutscenes for him.
It's virtually confirmed already, I wouldn't worry too much about it considering Cid and Vincent are virtually deconfirmed and the combat resources had to go somewhere
Red XIII, Sephiroth, Cait and Zack would put it at 4 new characters - same as the first game
Sephiroth is only usable in the flashback. I'd reckon Zack has a party member too.
Now that they've thrown out the concept of worlds merging AVALANCHE being dead confirms Cloud will die instead of Aerith.
Aerith and AVALANCHE are dead in Zack's world
Everyone is dead in Sephiroth's world
Zack is dead in Cloud's world.
If these worlds merge Cloud is the only person who has a spare life
>Sephiroth is only usable in the flashback
For now. He'll be playable as a perma member in Part 3 I'd bet a fuck ton on it.
>He'll be playable as a perma member in Part 3 I'd bet a fuck ton on it.
You're not allowed to have ideas if they are gonna be this fucking terrible.
did you forget that epilogue Sephiroth wanted to ally with Cloud? Why do you think he wants to merge the worlds if there's a timeline where he already won? He needs to ally with the good guys to beat the REAL villain
And why the fuck would it make sense for Sephiroth to become a permanent member even if he's from another timeline where everyone else is dead? He's not Magus. He's not redeemable in the slightest and has been the villain in every story he's been in.
anon I don't know i you noticed but FF7R is KH-level of retardation
>time jannies
It's been far better than any of the fan theories being written by literal mongoloids on the internet. Every speculation has gone so far off the deep end when compared to what they did for the first game. The first game opened up the story for some divergence but the stupid shit FF fans have been coming up with is down right embarrassing.
> He's not redeemable in the slightest and has been the villain in every story he's been in.
Not in Crisis Core.
He was still very much a secondary villain as Crisis Core was meant to show you his story leading up to 7.
>He's not redeemable in the slightest
They made Sephiroth change his pronoun back to "pre-crazy" for a reason bro
He doesn't need to be redeemable he just needs to not be the biggest fish to fry
I've already accepted the final boss of the trilogy is gonna be Genesis and Jenova doing some fucking dumb team up bullshit so they can do some sort of the beginning and the end motif.
Sephiroth will only be playable if the big twist at the end of rebirth is genesis highjacks the plot with his gayry and DEEPGROUND bullshit.
you think sephiroth will redeem himself and take a chill pill after knowing who he was and join cloud and zack?
No, I think he will team up with them for his own selfish reasons but ultimately be the lesser evil until the "big new threat" is dealt with
What is even worse then his planet destroying retardation though? Like where does it even go?
Ask Nomura
Rebirth will be the greatest Final Fantasy in history. I can feel it.
How do I automatically post Vincent is not playable into every thread about this game?
I didn't realize it when I was younger but literally every character looks like they could be a model
Anon, you're legitimately retarded. Leave this place it's not healthy. Every character from every game could be a model.
the new overworld theme is making me tear up bros…
who is the canon love interest for 雲
Tifa.
Aerith loves Zack.
Yuffie is a wildcard.
Jessie died in the OG so won't pretend she counts.
Sephiroth loves his mother ( alien )
Tifa, seeing as the only other candidate got Sephiroth'd.
>not turn based
Where's all the autistic screeching I thought Final Fantasy had to be turn based?
it's okay when nomura does it
No, it had to be an RPG, have party members, etc. I know this is just cope from people not liking FF16 being a discount Devil May Cry.
No it was turn based. I've seen it spammed for the last 6 months that only turn based Final Fantasys are real Final Fantasys.
genesis and weiss do something to cause sephiroth to join and merge the worlds.
nah
It looks like the story will be shit and the game will be railroaded, just like the last one. After KH3 and FF7R I'm never buying another Nomura game, and after FFXV and XVI I'm probably not buying any new FF games in general.
is tifa woke?
first thing I ever jacked off to was hentai of Tifa getting eiffel towered by two faceless dark dudes with distinctly beige looking jizz coming out both holes
source
?
She is a gaslighting bitch
>Cissnei
Which spinoff should I play to know more about her?
the horrible, awful dirge of cerberus
That was the e-boi waifu2 of vincent
oh right my bad
Crisis Core and the Turks game. But mainly Crisis Core.
>7 millions
>in 4 fucking years
>a fucking REMAKE OF FF7
what the fuck
see
japs drink their own koolaid worse than anyone on earth
we just wanted a fucking ff7 remake. they made kingdom hearts garbage. it failed vs budget
Ganker will say it flopped
Flopped?
No
Didnt meet Squares expectations
Yes
if we had an ocarina of time full remake it would sell 50 million copies.
So it's sold almost as much as the original, that's a huge success, especially since they can sell it two more times to the same people while reusing a lot of assets.
>So it's sold almost as much as the original
That's a good look to you ? game had a 10 years hype
the original FF7 has sold 14 million
It was even popular in spain when rpgs were alien nerd freak shit specially japanese
Over almost 30 years and half a dozen re-releases
The remake has almost caught up to that in just 4
>only half the sales
>almost caught up
Quick anon tell me three vidya remakes who sold more than 7 million copies in 4 years in the current or past gen
There really werent enough remakes for your gay ass comparison. But RE2,3,4 remake all sold a ton. 3 sold the least but Its done 7 million by now. Remake2 sold 12.6 million copies. Probably double by now. So FF7 failed in comparison
>no numbers to back up his lies
Cute retard.
https://www.xfire.com/capcom-confirms-resident-evil-2-remake-outsold-resident-evil-7/ (Aug 2023)
https://www.destructoid.com/resident-evil-3-remake-hits-five-million-sales-milestone/ (Feb 2022)
https://gamerant.com/resident-evil-4-remake-sales-milestone-5-million-units/ (july 2023)
also ~~*shipped*~~. Shills will defend that
the psx by the time ff7 released also had much smaller installbase than ps4
>4 fucking years
3 years
It looks okay. I'll give it more credit if Vincent is playable.
It looks great.
But they are setting themselves up for extreme bed shitting with these story tweaks, feel like this will end up being the video game ending equivalent of Game of Thrones or How I Met Your Mother.
I mean some are okay, but they are going really waaay out there with it.
Still going to play the fuck out of it though.
I'm going on honeymoon with my 3 wives
Who gets it first and who gets it last?
Nomura is a Kingdom Hearts gay. Covering up Tifa with an undershirt, spats, and stockings.
UNACCEPTABLE. I want my huge globes flying in FMVs Tifa.
Based, fuck that shitty new lifeguard costume in the gacha too
why does tifa refuse to be 雲s girlfriend before the end of the game?
it's cloud who's too gay to accept
Cloud is retarded and needed ZackCHAD to tell him to man up via the lifestream.
zack died an incel, though
it's cause she only starts with 30 affection points
Because Cloud comes back into her life like a completely different person and starts talking about shit that never happened like a complete schizo.
Because Tifa is emotionally weak coward.
why are the enemies so small?
>just saw the trailer
>"On 2 discs"
neat, just like the good old days.
I wonder how hard /ourguy/ Razor is going to trash it?
they've fucking murdered the chocobo race stages clearly don't give a shit about preserving any of the soul of the original game
look the fuck is this, how does this not just look sad to anybody
nitpick
OH NO, MY HECKIN' CHOCORINOS
Yea!
muh soul
ahh, yes, because the chocobo racing was such a beloved part of the game
>they've fucking murdered the chocobo race stages clearly don't give a shit about preserving any of the soul of the original game
??????????????????
at least it looks like a real minigame and not the original shit
I'm not a great fan of it, but chocobo racing was more than a full-fledged minigame. It had strong mechanical depth (for you to bypass by feeding every chocobo 99 of the best greens).
Snowboarding > Chronobind > Crazy motorcycle > Triple Triad > the rest of Final Fantasies' minigames don't matter.
Why does everything look so soulless in modern games?
The lack of ssao and shadows. ITS REALLY bad when it does that gay ass shot of Cloud and Sephiroth fighting together in the flashback.
Budget and technology are not a replacement for passion and talent. It's not that hard to figure out my little cute zom zom anon. Devs in the 00 and before had to work with limitations that forced them to be more creative. The fact that budgets were much smaller also gave them way more creative freedom. Now with the rise of technology and financial risks, the devs have become lazier, less skilled, and less creative.
You actually might have a nice day when Rebirth releases to universal acclaim.
There might be multiple stages, dumb dumb.
might actually get a ps5 for this only to get mad at the story changes, AGAIN
The PS5 revision will be out in time for this right?
Yep, this is clearly Square at it's best. I have very high hopes, vast majority of their games are mediocre thrash but Once or twice a decade they drop a top 100 of all time games contender.
God I miss To Love Ru
Zack is playable, he has visible wounds between two different moments here.
Also you can see Aerith's "mother" here on the left, so he took Cloud there
Yea, but I don't use him.
Loom will show up in part 3. She will die instead of Aerith.
>Welcome to the new world order!
And, I walk.
>insectoid can only quantify success through numbers
yawn
quit posting until you get a soul
what the fuck else quantifies success anon
I don't want a 1:1 remake it want it to not be retarded
Why the fuck do you retards want a 1:1 remake? Go play the original VII if that's what you want.
too much gnomish allegory
Its utterly bizarre and retarded the fact the new game remake is a sequel where you have to play the original to make sense out of it. I mean, I dont care since I played the original game 25 years ago, but dude, it was 25 YEARS ago.
Also no one wanted a 1:1 remake, they wanted the original plot and game with new graphics/gameplay. Literally no one asked for a remake thats actually a sequel. Not me, not you, no one ever did. You could have made a straight sequel, an updated remake, even a 1:1 remake and no one would have complained.
I will fix FF7 remake for you in like 5 seconds and make everyone happy:
>Main Campaign is like FF7 original plot, no time jannies, Sephiroth is revealed slowly and built upon
>After you finish the game...
>NEW GAME PLUS
>Here you have the new remixed timeline
The same shit Nier automata pulled. So newcommers dont get fucked, people who wanted something new get something new, people who wanted a remake get a remake. Its so fucking easy its unreal, the timejanny campaign is not a new game plus
>the new game remake is a sequel where you have to play the original to make sense out of it
This trope's been done multiple times by this point such the Evangelion Rebuilds or even Blaster Master Zero to a lesser extent.
You have to remember their market for this isn't oldschool fans, it's the modern mainstream gaming market so they don't need to and really don't want to stick to the original blueprints. They want to throw things in peoples faces quick and early so they fall for the hype surrounding things they've heard about the original (they probably haven't played).
Realistically Sephiroth shouldn't have been shown at all in the first game but that wouldn't sell copies to secondary fans who know of him through other media now would it?
>You have to remember their market for this isn't oldschool fans
Which also doesnt make sense because the game expects you to have played the original specially with Sephiroth since in the remake he just comes out and misses the whole setup of the original. So you dont get the wtf moment if you havent played the original. Nor even understand why he is big deal.
>8 fucking years of work to make two shitty over budget filler remake games
Fuck this industry and SE for wanting to be like greedy AAA Western corporate cucks
I want to plant my seed in Aika
Same. I still want to shoot up all higher ups in Tokyo at SE headquarters tho. Bunch of fucking retards who fell for "muh heckoerino AAAilo graphixo!!! and heckerino realsisimno animationono!!!!" meme that made the industry get fucked beyond repair in the 2010s. Back in the 00s it only took like 2 or 3 years max to make an incredible and revolutionary game with unique style because devs had brains and knew their fucking limits. What's worse is that SE fell for the meme so hard that now they want to ape the West as much as possible with that GoT garbage in XVI.
Should've been complaining since FF7 OG then.
The og and all games in 97 didn't require even half as much budget and time to make like the remake le retardo
Even if that was true and it isn't because FF7's marketing alone made it one the most expensive games still to this day basically, SE has been going for amazing spectacle since like FF6 its not really new. Unless you truly believed a world existed where a FF would still look like a higher budget bravely default or something. You have no one to blame but yourself.
>Even if that was true
It is true retard. What was considered cutting edge and time/budget consuming is nothing compared to what SE makes today. Back then they made way more games and they did it way faster because the budgets were way smaller and actually reasonable. It didn't take them 15 years to release one game. They were not an overblown corporation with millions of people. No one wanted them to become an overblown whale that they are now. They transformed into it because of their own never ending greed.
Welcome to the new world order!
Here you go, friend.
the fuck is this lol
Not shitty over budge filler remake AAA western corporate slop.
>Not shitty over budge filler remake AAA western corporate slop.
>j-slop is somehow better than that
literally even worse and more exploitative of its consumers than w-slop LMAO
The new SaGa.
Ok thats cooly bizarre besides being women and their pets beating two japanese bald rapist npc of some manga
HOLY SOUL
Which way western man?
Actual fun shit. In Final Fantasy.
Who would've guessed?
>Worlds are about to merge
What did he mean by this? - Don`t touch original FFVII World!
>Cloud fighting with Sephiroth
>Cloud not jobbing instantly
MISSING THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Cloud already killed Sephiroth once though
not jobbing instantly
he jobs. Sephiroth blocks the omnislash completely
Im talking about the flashback scene where they fight together
they're expanding the flashback beyond that point I assume. I still hope they showcase how insanely strong Sephiroth is in comparison
Cloud had same HP and MP as he does in the fucking trailer.
i mean cloud and zack were both competent soldiers.
Cloud never was part of SOLDIER newfag.
my point is that cloud believed he was zack, dude...
Kinda difficult to understand this from your sentence
>New NIER is already in development
>Story takes place in Kingdom of the Night which is on Dark side of the world
>The plot will revolve around the protagonists of the first part and the refugee androids, who at the time of the events of NieR: Automata were already in the dark part of the earth and hiding from the Command, but do not yet know about the events that occurred at the end of the first part
>The soundtrack is produced by students of Keiichi Okabe from MONACA Team.
I won`t say more and this information will be buried here.
It doesn't matter because it never happened to begin with, remember? It probably actually happened with Zack and Cloud is self-inserting as Zack.
Yes but the original point of the fucking flashback in the previous game was to show just how CRAZY strong sephiroth was. You had 300 hp and he had like 3k. You die in one hit and do 30 damage to the dragon. He fucking auto casts Life 2 (a spell you havent seen before) and does 3k in a regular attack
can't wait for this ff7 remake series to be done so that they can start working on ff8 remake
Please Square, keep going with more mature tone of FF16, me and others at our limit containing cringe when watching trailers for FF7R.
Please keep making new mainline games for actual adults not 9 year old lobotomy patients.
You will pre-order my game, won't you, Cloud-kun?
Why does this make me laugh?
The cheeky expression and pose juxtaposed by the supposed intimidating presence of the main villain of the game.
My boy sephi always looks like he is in the middle of a shampoo commercial and you gotta admit he delivers
what am i missing? i thought they already remade it?
its 3 installments. Rebirth is up to the midpoint of the story.
>Must milk goyim to buy one game 3(or 4) times.
Boy i have news for you its not a 100% remake its a sequel/reboot
It looks weak and censored, it only compares favorably to FF16 and Forspoken
Apologize.
>make a shit game
>a remake of ff7 sold 7 millions in 4 years
Apologize yourself gay, I wish you were contained to KH
I really want to get into KH I love autistic deep-lore shit that actually commits to its worldbuilding and takes years of build up.
I am starved now that MGS is dead and Deltarune is a long time away, and there is no Nier/Drakengard on the horizon.
This is probably the worst decision I could make but I see no other choice
>there is no Nier/Drakengard on the horizon.
>He doesn`t know about massive leak.
w-what leak
bro drakengard anniversary happened 4 days agoband i doubt taro Twitter writted something
You'll actually feel bad knowing all the dumb shit that happens in that series, but knock yourself out
I watched multiple KH lore videos. Even after watching multiple it still makes almost no sense. Legitimately the lore video by gay dunkey actually does the best job at explaining it.,
Dunkey's KH lore video is legitimately the perfect normie translation as to what the fuck is going on in that series.
I mean, I don't just care about "le deep lore", I want a game with a big, rich world that gradually opens up without the sitcom syndrome, characters that undergo development across multiple games, and gameplay that's at least fun enough to tie it all together.
Sadly, I don't know many games that satisfy these criteria.
Legacy of Kain series
Yeah, good point actually, I need to finish it. Thank you for the reminder.
keep saying it also the pronouns in starfield take up like one second in a 700 hour game chud
Metal Gear Solid
Legacy of Kain
Drakengard/Nier
Megaman Zero (X somewhat but not really)
Megaman StarForce even though 2 is a filler slump mostly
Blaster Master Zero (seriously, play it, each game expands on the previous game story-wise and gameplay wise, it's so good)
Trails of
Kingdom Hearts
Ace Attorney kinda by this point but they really try to make each game standalone as to not scare off the casual audience
Zero Escape if you treat ZTD as a fanfic
To the Moon kinda sorta
There are also cases of "distant" soft-sequels such as Zelda and Castlevania, CV more so but still not enough
Honestly can't think of much else, it's a shame
I hope the Hypnospace Outlaw guys do something with that budding universe of theirs
meant to quote
Also, The World Ends With You, if we're talking Nomura shit.
Just two games, but they're damn good.
> Dude le suburban battle royale but nobody dies
You can do much better than Kingdom Hearts for that shit.
Start with Homestuck if you didn't already. Bonus points for Toby Fox music. Just make sure to get the unofficial offline version that has all the extra content.
I do have the Offline Homestuck Collection, just started reading it recently in fact. It's not a game though, but I hope it tides me over before the next chapter of DR and UT Yellow.
>It's not a game though
But it has many playable game segments.
Keep in mind, KH makes zero sense until it all makes sense at once due to a big reveal.
It comes in waves like that.
Right now, it seems we're hitting the Alchemy, Kabbalah phase of the lore with the current stuff.
what is the sexual market like in FF7 world?
Abundant. Aerith, Tifa, Jessie, Yuffie, Priscilla and Ester are all over Cloud.
WE
ARE
SO
BACK
>SaGa chuds posting their trash in a KINO thread
sad
Is this Mukki? He doesn't look the same as the original, but he's muscular and effeminate and comes after Andrea.
thats dio
Yeah, didn't recognize him from the hairstyle and new clothing. Thank you guys.
No, this is the golden saucer owner. I forget his name.
KINO is incoming
ITs the owner of Gold Saucer
Pretty sure its Dio
I literally bought a PS5 for this game
I only haven't because I want a Rebirth bundle
>WE
>ARE
>SO
>BACK
I look like that and said that
It looks like FFXV, and finally the good parts of FFVII. It's good.
Honestly I don't give a fuck where they take this games plot wise. I think saving Aerith would be cool and I don't think it invalidates the original.
The Zack stuff is kind of pushing it a little though
Me? Gongaga
Holy fuck i want back the moron that dubbed him in psp
XIV and XVI (yoshi p) trannies, how do you feel?
I think it proves Yoship right that people don't actually want turn based Final Fantasy
This thread proves he was right
No he was wrong you still have turns into actions that arent attack block or dodge
Sorry but FF7 Rebirth isn't turn based and no one cares. Yoship won.
Pretty good, considering the FF7R (aka remake of the most legendary FF game) only sold 7 million copies and solidified Nomura as a fucking hack while Yoshi-P still sits on top of SE makes me feel pretty good not gonna lie.
Your director is an uninspiring hack copying Wow, DMC and GOT
>Your director is an uninspiring hack
But enough about Final Fantasy VII >>R E M A K E<<
He rejected being ceo boardchairmen and after xvi poor sales he is a little more fucked
Yeah and judging by how the xiv money is dropping, the SE shares dropping and this new game being a disappointment he will not direct another FF game unless the next one is a mmo
Well he wanted to make another mmo before retirement
Holy fucking cope.
Anyways, as I said, Tardmura can work on some shitty remakes on Unreal Engine (kek) on the side, while Yoshi-P leads with his own new engine and biggest MMO on the market that makes an actual money.
As garbage as chudflight has been WoW is still bigger, if only because Endwalker post-launch has been an absolute catastrophe.
Ah yes that engine that wont be used in more games besides another mmo unless crap engine of xvii is so bad they borrow it
cope your own expansion announcement couldn't even beat a regular day of wow
>bringing up wow in a ff7 thread
but I was told the 16 schizos weren't blizzdrones what happened?
The other anon randomly said XIV was the biggest MMO. I simply shot his bullshit down to earth.
Shadow refugee happened
XIV and DQX's got no expansion till probably July revenue being down isn't too surprising if anything SE should be worrying about it's aging gachas that have for the first time in literally a few years performed worse in a quarterly than their HD Games section and that was with one game vs the like 12 gachas they have running.
>tries to expand Final Fantasy by turning Final Fantasy into a ripoff of a series that sells less than Final Fantasy
>it backfires and his game is blamed for the company's recent downfalls
Yoshida is a god damn moron.
didnt XVI sell 3m?
either way, both garbage
The English voice acting is so bad; holy fuck. Do people really put up with this?
Yes ,Clown ( cloud)
YES HAHA SQUARE ENIX MILK MY NOSTALGIA EVEN MORE WAAAH I CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF GETTING MILKED
>Cloud dates all of them at once
Yeah, no shit? Cloud is a bishounen chunni protagonist. He needs a herem like everyone else.
>SO HERE I AM
>DOING EVERYTHING I CAN
>HOLDING ON TO WHAT I AM
>PRETENDING I'M A SUPERMAN
I am Nanaki of Cosmo Canyon! The son of the warrior, Seto! Now watch me hit this Choco-Wheelie.
I cant fucking wait that dog pretending to be marine
what the fuck
I will maybe grab it when it goes on sale because Squee Enix games drop like a brick on sales. Plus there's no real rush to get it anyways.
I hope FF9, FF10 and FF6 are not remade until the last FF7 remake game.
This team is too fucking good not to use on FF6
9 is almost finished
It had so much soul
>Hey Chat GPT 15
>grab the assets of the ff7 remake and make an actual remake of the game
>remove compilation gayry
>actually make 2 versions of the game, one with fixed camera angles and turn based, and one with modern gameplay
We just have to wait. AI slop cant be worse than this.
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Bros, why there is a party and rpg in FF, werent we going the dmc route?
Welcome to the new world order!
Sorry, bro. The rpg franchise not having rpg was a problem. Wont happen again.
The diet dmc failed
is it possible to only have males on my team in FF7? I hate women and dont want to play with any
In the original? Run the Cloud/Cid/Barrett shit talking ball busting trio
FFVII REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:Birth
I can't wait for FFVII-3 to be yet another stupid fucking story but an otherwise fun game. Nomurashit strikes again.
Gameplay wise? Absolutely. Story wise? It's already confirmed to be ruined fan fiction by SE's resident Lightning simp.
what is the most romantic scene from FF7?
barret and cloud on the Ferris wheel.
Sex under the airship.
Getting impaled by a katana
When Zangan told Cloud “hey kid, you aint all that bed, just a bit tight hehe”
Aerith on the Gondola.
All hail to our Mexican queen Ortega-sama.
she is an open biden/obama supporter, is used goods, and has a black boyfriend.
what if the new ending is Cloud with Tifa AND Aeris?
forget cloud
Sure it looks good, but then so did the first one. Then the game came out and it was revealed to be more linear than the first game's Midgar somehow, but stretched out over the course of 30+ hours. Not a fun time.
i hope they are designing a lot of super bosses for me to die to after i beat the main game.
My wife and her 1970s bush is still alive!
>ff13 pretending to be 7
FFVII Rebirth, it's like ff13 became a trans-game and started identifying as ffv7
It's almost as if there were bots in this thread. "no open world" complains while ignoring the chocobo stuff (probably didn't even watch the trailer, or bot).
Where are all the people who told me that Cait Sith would never be playable? Apologize.
I dont apologice cause the character is unlikable besides being a cat in appearance and its role in the game
dumb esl
i had a dream where i saw cait sith being like a navigator form persona, tossing random buffs and helping the party from afar
glad i was wrong
they see me rolling, they hating
> Sephiroth Must be there busting cap FR FR
reminder that Cloud is getting canonically cucked by Johnny here
why did Tifa reject him?
It's gonna be the greatest game of all time.
lmao there's no way that brat kyrie is going to take care of Cloud. she's going to rob him and leave him in the bushes somewhere
Yeah well the japanese mindset of women being caretaker