>Well, probably because it's a Legendary.
But he's also the real/postgame final boss, it would've been appropriate
At the very least Silver got to do it in Stadium 2, but it doesn't feel quite the same
His team, regardless of it being GSC or HGSS, follows a trend, specifically in Yellow.
Pikachu is the starter. the three starters are all Gift Pokemon on the way, so is Eevee and Lapras, and Snorlax is a mandatory battle.
Mewtwo, alongside the legendary birds, are optional battles, and therefore don't fit the same mold of being story beats.
In game he has all his OG homies with him.
He probably released Mewtwo and all the other ones back into the Wild once he registered them in his Pokedex though.
In Origins, which is apparently what this is based on, he literally threw them all into his computer storage to rot after registering them in his dex because they weren't muh shillzard. That's literally abandoning them
In Origins, which is apparently what this is based on, he literally threw them all into his computer storage to rot after registering them in his dex because they weren't muh shillzard. That's literally abandoning them
even though pokemon has aged like shit, at least we can wish a good pokemorning to all you pokefans! sincerely, the steven universe community. and sonic.
Red >Took down Team Rocket single handedly >Became the Kanto Pokémon League champion on his first attempt and immediately dethroned his rival >Completed the Kanto Pokédex >Traveled across the world cementing himself a one of if not the strongest trainer in the world >Mastered Mega evolution and Dynamaxing >Defeated Lear so hard that the guy couldn’t take the L and pulled a Kaiba and created Pasio and the PML to embarrass red in front of the world >Usually sticks to the same 6 Pokémon since Gen 2
Ash >First champion of Alola >Conquered the Battle Frontier >Mastered Dynamax, Mega Evolution and Z moves >Pokémon World Champion >Defeated Leon the undefeated, Cynthia, Steven, Wallace and Iris >Played a major role in the downfall of Teams Magma, Aqua, Galatic(twice), Plasma and Flair >Saved the world multiple times >Rotates his team but always has Pikahcu with him >Befriended Satan and God >Can control aura
Red was in charge of dismantling the syndicate at it's apex.
Ethan/Lyra kicked both Team Rocket and Giovanni when they were already face on the ground.
Remember how Origins had an entire episode where brock said some lofty "Friendship with your pokemon is proportionate to their power!" bullshit
And then Red spends the entire episode going "What does that MEANNNNN?" as if it's the deepest sentiment he's ever heard.
In the end he beats Brock by sacrificing pokemon to slowdown Onix with stringshot and then winning with Charmander, then Brock says "You finally learned it"
Origins was getting shat on by everyone except rabid Ash haters from day one. It bombed so hard in Japan I think the home release got canceled, it never reaired on TV, and we never got a sequel.
Was it? Because I kept seeing people for years claim that this was the best Pokémon anime ever. And I never got it. This felt like they unintentionally made their main character into a Gary Stu
>Took down Team Rocket single handedly
Ahem
Ethan/Lyra/Crystal took down Team Rocket’s sloppy seconds. Those guys were a compete joke and barely did anything.
Origins was getting shat on by everyone except rabid Ash haters from day one. It bombed so hard in Japan I think the home release got canceled, it never reaired on TV, and we never got a sequel.
>ash ash ash
The hell are you on about? not everything is about ash, the same people who refused to admit origins was shit were the same ones who'd eat up anything with a pokemon logo on it, especially when it concerns easy nostalgia baiting.
Anon, it’s no better than the overpowered edgelord variant of Isekai protags. Pixiv Red is an empty vessel for a Genwunner’s inner ten year old to project their power fantasy on.
>got pikachu because he was late
the creator of the pic really thinks this is a con? if anything ash fricking lucked out that he got a Pikachu with the strength of a god.
>with the strength of a god
With the strength of a bullshit. Can defeat legendaries left and right, then gets defeated by lvl5 starter with no battle experience.
>Chose his starter in honor of his father
What >Caught at least 150 Kanto Pokémon including Legendaries and raised them each
No he didn’t >Had Giovanni disband Team Rocket
Ash has disbanded several evil teams, especially by the time Origins first aired >Never abandoned his Pokémon
Yea he does
All of these are from Origins. The reason why he choose Charmander is because his dad named him Red so he wanted to honor him. In episode 3 he defeated Giovanni and reignited his passion for Pokémon battling that he disbanded team Rocket. And in the final episode he caught every Pokémon including Mewtwo. Yes Origins is stupid why do you ask?
>Butterfree, Pidgeot, Primeape and Lapras
Yeah those are all gone but >Squirtle, Goodra, Greninja
These 3 can be called back at any time. He still owns them. Naganadel is a special case
I'm surprised people keep bringing game Red feats to Origins Red, when they are different beings.
Origins Red =/= Games Red, and that isn't even beginning if we are talking about Remakes Red, Let's Go Red or the OG one from the GBC games.
He is a literal non-character turned from players avatar into made to be a representation of Gen 1 to appeal gamefaqs or boomers, so most his only known feats come as reference to those games and anything beyond that goes into headcanon territory for the most part.
Unless you want to also bring Adventures Red into this argument who is an entirely different character from the games and had more appareances over the years, or if you want to bring the Red from that shitting Clafeaury Manga with toilet humor.
Redgays have this weird tendency to just talk about "Red" as this weird blob of various Reds that did something impressive. The Clefairy manga Red is oddly enough never brought up.
Personality wise Adventures Red in his own arc feels like a mix of OG and AG Ash. An egotistical brat who can actually battle but has a heart of gold and learns to be a better person throughout the journey.
Thing is a lot of Origins and Red and game Red have very similar accomplishments. It doesn’t help that TPC always promotes Red as one of the best or the best trainer in the world. In Masters he’s still listed as the undefeated in solo battles and Blue wants to end his streak.
where the hell are you from? facebook? cheezburger??
The frick is cheezburger?
You're too young to be here.
GET OUT UNDERAGE
God, these newbies just get younger and more stupid. Lurk moar
I miss Red having an Espeon.
Same, made him unique
I-is that mega charizard X? You mean the badass black batman blue fire dragon with bloodthirsty red eyes from KANTO??
No, he's just Charizard X who has a neat color scheme of black and blurple.
To this day I'm still confused why they didn't just pull out all the stops and give him Mewtwo instead of Espeon
Well, probably because it's a Legendary.
I just want his Espeon back and for Green to get an Umbreon to finish the duo-fecta.
>Well, probably because it's a Legendary.
But he's also the real/postgame final boss, it would've been appropriate
At the very least Silver got to do it in Stadium 2, but it doesn't feel quite the same
I also think it's more appropriate than Frontier Brains being the only ones who use Legendaries. I always found that odd.
His team, regardless of it being GSC or HGSS, follows a trend, specifically in Yellow.
Pikachu is the starter. the three starters are all Gift Pokemon on the way, so is Eevee and Lapras, and Snorlax is a mandatory battle.
Mewtwo, alongside the legendary birds, are optional battles, and therefore don't fit the same mold of being story beats.
Mewtwo in gen 2 was explicitly captured by Red because it was no longer to be found in unknown dungeon.
Maybe he just felt like going somewhere else
> Never abandoned his Pokemon
All of Red's pokemon were jobbers and were treated like shit besides Charmanderino
In game he has all his OG homies with him.
He probably released Mewtwo and all the other ones back into the Wild once he registered them in his Pokedex though.
nope hes not a gay like ash
Game Red never caught Mewtwo, that's why it's still in its cave in HGSS.
Doubt it since to get it in the shitty dex you need to catch it. He probably did let it go like I said.
Game Red never filled the Pokedex either.
>He never filled the Dex
Are you dumb?
In Origins, which is apparently what this is based on, he literally threw them all into his computer storage to rot after registering them in his dex because they weren't muh shillzard. That's literally abandoning them
kek
Top of the line trainer
>Lvl 50 252+ SpA Rhyhorn Thunder vs. Lvl 25 0 HP / 0- SpD Jolteon on a critical hit: 61-72 (91 - 107.4%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Worse even, Geovanni ordered Rhyhorn to use Thunderbolt (juu man boruto)
Thank god you didn't post a webm, I have no idea how people thought Red was ever a better trainer than Ash
100% of the Origins fanbase consisted of "I hate Ash on principle despite never watching the anime since Johto" gays.
When shit ages, it turns to dust.
literally all of these are true, except the bottom right which was still true since it wasn't until years later that he became a champion at anything
Red not abandoning his Pokemon is hilariously untrue.
he doesn't in the games, they only make him do it in origins to shill charizard
He has no character in the games you dumbass.
he is literally a character in the games, him being a silent protag doesn't change that
Being a character does not necessarily mean having a character.
even though pokemon has aged like shit, at least we can wish a good pokemorning to all you pokefans! sincerely, the steven universe community. and sonic.
nah ash is still shit
have a nice day, piece of garbage.
nah you do that instead homosexual
Can't we just tell Redgays to frick off from life and never post here on /vp/ again?
Red
>Took down Team Rocket single handedly
>Became the Kanto Pokémon League champion on his first attempt and immediately dethroned his rival
>Completed the Kanto Pokédex
>Traveled across the world cementing himself a one of if not the strongest trainer in the world
>Mastered Mega evolution and Dynamaxing
>Defeated Lear so hard that the guy couldn’t take the L and pulled a Kaiba and created Pasio and the PML to embarrass red in front of the world
>Usually sticks to the same 6 Pokémon since Gen 2
Ash
>First champion of Alola
>Conquered the Battle Frontier
>Mastered Dynamax, Mega Evolution and Z moves
>Pokémon World Champion
>Defeated Leon the undefeated, Cynthia, Steven, Wallace and Iris
>Played a major role in the downfall of Teams Magma, Aqua, Galatic(twice), Plasma and Flair
>Saved the world multiple times
>Rotates his team but always has Pikahcu with him
>Befriended Satan and God
>Can control aura
>Took down Team Rocket single handedly
Ahem
Team Rocket without Giovanni is not the same syndicate.
They didn't have the same financial backing.
She traveled back in time and beat Giovanni too.
Red was in charge of dismantling the syndicate at it's apex.
Ethan/Lyra kicked both Team Rocket and Giovanni when they were already face on the ground.
Red mastered Z-moves too. He uses them in SMUSUM and in Masters with Pikachu.
Remember how Origins had an entire episode where brock said some lofty "Friendship with your pokemon is proportionate to their power!" bullshit
And then Red spends the entire episode going "What does that MEANNNNN?" as if it's the deepest sentiment he's ever heard.
In the end he beats Brock by sacrificing pokemon to slowdown Onix with stringshot and then winning with Charmander, then Brock says "You finally learned it"
Origins is SHIT, nostalgia truly blinds people
Origins was getting shat on by everyone except rabid Ash haters from day one. It bombed so hard in Japan I think the home release got canceled, it never reaired on TV, and we never got a sequel.
Was it? Because I kept seeing people for years claim that this was the best Pokémon anime ever. And I never got it. This felt like they unintentionally made their main character into a Gary Stu
Ethan/Lyra/Crystal took down Team Rocket’s sloppy seconds. Those guys were a compete joke and barely did anything.
>people
Those would be the rabid Ash haters in question. It was the best Pokemon anime ever because it didn't have Ash.
>ash ash ash
The hell are you on about? not everything is about ash, the same people who refused to admit origins was shit were the same ones who'd eat up anything with a pokemon logo on it, especially when it concerns easy nostalgia baiting.
Yeah they were such a joke that Lance had to intervene
So when the frick are masters going to stop being pussies and actually give us the Red vs Ash fight that they teased?
>Gary Stu vs an underdog
You can say what you want, but Red is a shit character.
Redgelords will never let go of this image
Hahaha I loved that image when I was 11
>mfw "Pixiv Red" is a tag on Danbooru
Wow, people’s imagined idea of Red is really THAT divorced from canon, huh
Kys. It's the epitome of soul, when you derive something like this from a bunch of pixels, at the time.
Anon, it’s no better than the overpowered edgelord variant of Isekai protags. Pixiv Red is an empty vessel for a Genwunner’s inner ten year old to project their power fantasy on.
Why are some people so obsessed with a nothing character like Red? Is it just projection and genwunnerism?
He's portrayed as the strong, silent type which makes people associate him with being a bad ass.
In reality he just likes peace and quiet.
He's not even that, actual ingame dialogue mentions him as being pretty chatty.
At least until GF learned about le funny dot dot dot man maymay and started pandering to morons.
You do know that's them teasing him?
That was sarcasm autisimo
nah he's not world champion leon was just crazy weak
Cope harder
>English Pokemon twitter account calls Ash "world champion" despite renaming the world championship the "world coronation series"
too little, too late
Are you moronic? The series is ending soon
>got pikachu because he was late
the creator of the pic really thinks this is a con? if anything ash fricking lucked out that he got a Pikachu with the strength of a god.
>with the strength of a god
With the strength of a bullshit. Can defeat legendaries left and right, then gets defeated by lvl5 starter with no battle experience.
It got nerfed moronic.
His level is wildly varies even without any nerfs/powerups.
Pikachu lost to a Snivy after it got nerfed by Zekrom. Something like that never happened again.
His level is wildly varies even without any nerfs/powerups.
they are both terrible. garry is the real protaganist.
>Chose his starter in honor of his father
What
>Caught at least 150 Kanto Pokémon including Legendaries and raised them each
No he didn’t
>Had Giovanni disband Team Rocket
Ash has disbanded several evil teams, especially by the time Origins first aired
>Never abandoned his Pokémon
Yea he does
All of these are from Origins. The reason why he choose Charmander is because his dad named him Red so he wanted to honor him. In episode 3 he defeated Giovanni and reignited his passion for Pokémon battling that he disbanded team Rocket. And in the final episode he caught every Pokémon including Mewtwo. Yes Origins is stupid why do you ask?
This is hilarious since it omits a shit ton of his accomplishments that already mogged Red back then
Your typical Originsgay knows nothing about post-mid Johto Ash, if the "Ash releases all his Pokemon" bullet point didn't make that clear.
>Butterfree, Pidgeot, Primeape and Lapras
Yeah those are all gone but
>Squirtle, Goodra, Greninja
These 3 can be called back at any time. He still owns them. Naganadel is a special case
Goodra and Greninja postdate Origins and Squirtle was never seen again until after all the Originsgays had stopped watching.
No it was already pretty clear when the moron didn't even know that Team Rocket are MCs
Ash Ketchum is a harem protagonist:
- Misty
- Melody
- Chikorita/Bayleef
- Latias
- Macy
- Anabel
- Angie
- Serena
etc
Maybe in the eyes of a 30 year old manchild.
Ashgays have become drunk with delusion over his shoehorned champion title.
Anime really does some messed up stuff to the mind.
Anon, the OP pic is some moronic shit from 2013 that got ridiculed even back then.
Red is a boomer character. No one really cares about his exploits because they're all in Gen 1.
Ash has traveled through every generation, and has become more iconic for the brand.
Red is stronger because he’s in smash and I killed every character with flare blitz, yeah I’m thinking
/thread
>Aged like shit
So, turned from shit into humus?
I'm surprised people keep bringing game Red feats to Origins Red, when they are different beings.
Origins Red =/= Games Red, and that isn't even beginning if we are talking about Remakes Red, Let's Go Red or the OG one from the GBC games.
He is a literal non-character turned from players avatar into made to be a representation of Gen 1 to appeal gamefaqs or boomers, so most his only known feats come as reference to those games and anything beyond that goes into headcanon territory for the most part.
Unless you want to also bring Adventures Red into this argument who is an entirely different character from the games and had more appareances over the years, or if you want to bring the Red from that shitting Clafeaury Manga with toilet humor.
Redgays have this weird tendency to just talk about "Red" as this weird blob of various Reds that did something impressive. The Clefairy manga Red is oddly enough never brought up.
The Clefairy manga Red isn’t “cool” enough, that’s why
He’s also a gag manga character
Personality wise Adventures Red in his own arc feels like a mix of OG and AG Ash. An egotistical brat who can actually battle but has a heart of gold and learns to be a better person throughout the journey.
Thing is a lot of Origins and Red and game Red have very similar accomplishments. It doesn’t help that TPC always promotes Red as one of the best or the best trainer in the world. In Masters he’s still listed as the undefeated in solo battles and Blue wants to end his streak.