AI Dungeon

>2020
>year of the dragon
>kickstarts the ai erp coom revolution
>shits itself and dies soon after
how are we doing in 2024, ai text bros?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please don't remind us of what has been lost.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The alternatives today are a million times better than "Dragon" aka GPT-3. You can literally use Command R Plus on Hugging Chat for free and uncensored. Not only is it 2 generations ahead of GPT-3 but it has a context length of 128k compared to 2k for GPT-3.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        compared to ChatGPT or gemini it comes off as very sterile and robotic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You can literally use Command R Plus on Hugging Chat for free and uncensored
        What's the best way to get it going? For me it just kind of spits out the same generic things.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shut the frick up, these people don't deserve it. It's the same kind of homosexuals who still don't know how go bypass the panda.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you gatekeeping piece of shit

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dickygays exist
    >company shits itself in anger
    >destroys service for everyone
    who was in the wrong here

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I suppose it's a lot like all of these websites out there that try and be like, safe havens for the type of cartoon/3D porn material that most porn sites won't touch. Even just allowing it means you're going to be a target for legal issues and people trying to bring you down, but at the same time that is very clearly what the market demands. So you're in a battle between supplying the content to the audiences, or caving to outside legal pressure to stop.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can just say israelites.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It might be, though to be honest I would probably bet that it's more white moralists than anything else in that very specific regard. Not that it matters much either way, it could be israelites or Israel or Moms Against Porn or whatever, it doesn't actually matter.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        US law allows it. Also isn't a problem if you don't save data from generated conversations/images on the server and immediately delete it after sending it to the user.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The law doesn't matter. Visa and Mastercard control who you're allowed to spend your money with.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then it needs to stop being about money and the primary goal of all AI should be for it to be free as in beer, free as in libre, open source, and runnable on any machine locally. This solves every single problem associated with it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >US law allows it. Also isn't a problem if you don't save data from generated conversations/images on the server and immediately delete it after sending it to the user.
          That's not really relevant because good luck convincing the corporations that own the LLM systems and the servers to process the tokens you send them that "Actually it's fine if you allow content related to horrible taboo things as long as you just delete the logs. No advertiser or funding source would ever be able to object because of the technicality!" Bro if it's a choice between the wider market and your specific desire for AI porn, they're choosing the market.

          And assuming google had anything to do with that or made any changes as a result, how much revenue are google's AI services generating these days?

          >how much revenue are google's AI services generating these days?
          I have no idea, I don't keep up with their internals. And again, Google isn't the only supplier in the world right now, but a few years ago they WERE. The question is, right NOW are there any willing to supply token processing to objectionable content? I know some systems that allow it, so I guess so, though I can't tell you who owns them or where they're server'd.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I get warnings for looking up the sleep tag on pornsites now, I've just gone back to doujins since 3dpd has terrible writing and boring scenarios.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's funny. I'm fine with shit like taimanin since it's just over the top porn, but sleep sex is something I see as taboo. It's too close to reality that my morality filter kicks back in

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wut. Why sleep sex? Lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the idea of taking advantage of someone when they're defenceless. Rape porn never delves into the actual trauma inflicted, so it's just rough sex+ to me. But sleep sex comes off as something too close to reality. I don't like watching any bdsm stuff with real actors because of the same thing despite catching myself going through the r-18g tag on pixiv sometimes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's too real. I have the same relationship with sleep sex and maybe I can contextualise it with a different example.

                I love bodybuilding and I'm pretty serious about it, and I'm also gay and have a massive muscle fetish. You'd think that these things go together and they don't. The reality of bodybuilding is so thoroughly unerotic that it can't coexist with eroticism - so although I'm physically attracted to a muscular body, if you put that body in bodybuilding posers it turns me off because it conjures up not a fantasy but a reality which is pretty unsexy.

                A related experience that might further illustrate this point is that I used to play rugby on a gay rugby team and nobody got boners on the field, even though a lot of fricked around all the time outside of training etc. When you're actually doing the fantasy, it's not a fantasy anymore, and getting tackled fricking hurts.

                To bring this back to sleep sex, it's creepy. I have been naked while sleeping next to other naked people and cuddled and stuff. When I see sleep sex stuff I relate it to those experiences, and how gross and disgusting it would have been to start doing shit to those people while they were asleep. But, ironically, I find sleeping guys really hot (pic related). Just so long as there's no touching.

                Basically, the point is that I find the less sexually experienced people are the more wild and pent-up their fantasies. I've often met younger guys who talk mad shit online but can barely say how they like to be touched once we're face to face.

                /blog

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No matter how liberal, your parents cringe internally each time you have to remind them that you choose dicks over continuing your genetic line. Thousands of ancestors all managed to get your dick wet, and it ends with you swallowing semen. Your parents see you with your boyfriend and have to acknowledge that their son, the light of their life, is getting anally violated on the regular. What makes you think you're welcome among straight people? Studies have shown heterosexual males have the same reaction as wienerroaches to seeing gay kissing. wienerroaches.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think your desperate fantasies about what my life must be like are more about you than they are about me, anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously the people who get angry when others are having fun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      e-girlshitters for knowingly ruining it for everyone. They KNOW what happens when they get their grubby fingers into things yet they choose to do so anyways

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI Dungeon, in its' infancy, worked because of two things; First, access to Google's servers to actually send tokens to the LLM system hadn't properly been turned into an over-monetized profit engine, so it was somewhat cheap and sustainable to have AI Dungeon as a frontend be this niche, weird little thing that you could do for lulz in small quantities. But the fact is that people wanted longer, more detailed, more memory use of the system and in way larger numbers than anticipated, meaning it cost way too much to operate.

    Second, companies like Google instantly realized that allowing people to send their system tons of generation calls for content involving kids, horrible deviant shit, and all kinds of other objectionable material, was poison to anyone hoping to associate with or fun the development of these systems for mass market use, so they had to implement their own filter systems, or force frontends to do the filtering, paring down content and responses to only safe and palatable garbage that no one wanted.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And assuming google had anything to do with that or made any changes as a result, how much revenue are google's AI services generating these days?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based informed anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cringe and wrong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And now in 2024 they have realised that filters make AI's dummer and that if they want to compete they have to remove the filters.
      That's the reason Anthropic's Claude is the leader and Google's GPT is the loser.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Novel Ai has been better than peak AID for awhile now. I’ve just been using that. Though, there are times where it loads really fricking slow due to japs using it for its anime image gen. But whatever. Good enough.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I try to use text adventure mode for fantasy rp but it just repeats itself eventually. I want it to use the beginning prompt's detail throughout the adventure, but it always just deteriorates over time, like you're supposed to keep feeding it good writing to work with. But that's... not how text adventure works.

      Basically I wanna just input a simple command and have the AI generate a DETAILED response to my command. Is this possible without the writing quality atrophy?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AI output will always be only as good as the input.
        If you suck at writing it will give you what you deserve.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No shit but then what's the point of the text adventure mode? Obviously if I want to just sit down and write a well written story I'll just use the normal storytelling mode, but I'm looking for a text adventure when I pick the text adventure mode.

          NAI's half-baked adventure mode isn't worth using, it's a story writer first and foremost. All of it's features are built around fancy prose.

          Yeah I think I'm gonna give up on it. Would be really fun in theory but it just doesn't work well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally not the point of AI you imbecile. If I could write well myself why would I use AI text generation. If I could draw why would I use AI image generation.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why wont this text prediction that literally only outputs the most generic shit that everyone writes not give me stellar writing???

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Claude gives you stellar output, though. It's only a problem for NovelAI because they're stuck in the past.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ok? Yes NAI is very limited, that's already well established and nobody thinks otherwise.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If I could write well myself why would I use AI text generation.
            because it's more fun to have a partner to bounce off of

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Personally I just want to steer the story in the direction I want with as few inputs as I can. It's not really possible with current uncensored text gen unfortunately because what the anon said here

              I try to use text adventure mode for fantasy rp but it just repeats itself eventually. I want it to use the beginning prompt's detail throughout the adventure, but it always just deteriorates over time, like you're supposed to keep feeding it good writing to work with. But that's... not how text adventure works.

              Basically I wanna just input a simple command and have the AI generate a DETAILED response to my command. Is this possible without the writing quality atrophy?

              will inevitably happen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is quite possible with the current models, Claude just continues the output when you feed it the last words of the story in the prefill/last message. It's completely uncensored in practice.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it can be done with proper use of a completion model, but your few inputs are gonna be edits and nudges and not instructions and prose is still gonna be required

                claude opus did alright at [do thing] text adventure stuff but it still required nudges and edits to not descend into bloviating dogshit

                yes thank you Ganker

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NAI's half-baked adventure mode isn't worth using, it's a story writer first and foremost. All of it's features are built around fancy prose.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        After you feel like a chapter of your story has ended you can cut out old messages and replace it with a short summary of what happened. It'll help the bot stop forgetting your starting prompt

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Novelai demands good writing. I wish there's a model that just consistently return good prose regardless of the garbage you put in. I'm here to cum not to write.
      >inb4 me cum
      Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eh i've been using Spicychat for a while, it's good enough and free, only thing is a 5-10 minute wait to time but whatever

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >use good writing on NAI
        >shits itself because it's the equivelant of running a 7B model locally
        When's the last time they updated thei texgen? Was it something like 9 months ago? Why the frick are you still using NAI when that shit was already outdated in 2023

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it's not. AID did wienervore with zero wrangling

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are plenty of ai erp sites who allow dickyhomosexualry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like? you know, for a friend hehe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Crushonai

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And all of them run on shitty 13b models that don't come close to AI dungeon or old Character.ai

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We in that sillytavern + clopus era now bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What happened to opus anyway, it seems like a lot of proxies just don't have it anymore

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NAI, but other than promises they haven't made a meaningful text model update in months, so I haven't subbed in a while.
    Looking into SillyTavern but I'm dragging my feet as I dick around with local image gen.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kuru confirmed they are are doing a 70B LLaMA 3 finetune, but no ETA on it. Hopefully it's not their fricking unreleased chat service getting it before NAI.
      ST is fine when using Claude 3, but I really can't be doing with this chat format over storytelling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AI Dungeon (and text adventures) is chat format. How is NovelAI a game?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yup. Like, 8k tokens tops for their top of the line tier? Lol. Most chatbots nowadays supports 8k minimum, many at like what 128k tokens? NAI's text generation quality is also pretty boring and has too low maximum words output (max 160 words). Oh welp, at least you can still proompt some images if you find the text generation boring. Anytime I thought of giving Opus another try, the result is always the same with me being disappointed with the text output.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are you trying to do with Opus? It's still not at the level where it can output convincing novel tier writing by prompting it with "author style: Cormac McCarthy" or whatever, but it's still far and away the most advanced text AI that I've seen so far in terms of comprehension coupled with the ability to do basically whatever you tell it to. So yeah, a godsend for degenerate coomers for the last reason.
        And this applies to any decent AI, but especially for Opus: if you aren't satisfied with the output, often the best and easiest way to get what you want is to just OOC and tell the AI "rewrite the last response to be more like x/focus on blah blah"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think he meant NovelAI's Opus, their most expensive tier.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How do you usually use NAI lol. I find RedQuill gives more interesting short erotica. I usually just sub for 1 month opus to see if the model improved, realized it didnt, cancelled and then just use the image gen for the next 3-4 months from the free anlas bonus.

            Oh frick I forgot NAI has a model called Opus lmao. Yeah I was talking about Claude Opus

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do you usually use NAI lol. I find RedQuill gives more interesting short erotica. I usually just sub for 1 month opus to see if the model improved, realized it didnt, cancelled and then just use the image gen for the next 3-4 months from the free anlas bonus.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After they nearly went out of business, they basically backpedaled fully. I've been using it to coom for over a year now and it's been great. Have never hit a filter, although I don't specify the age of the characters in the story, even though any human could figure it out pretty quick considering the setting is a school for some of them. I don't use the OpenAi models though, I hear they have much stricter filters. I also don't publish anything, they are all private scenarios.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on what you use, Mythomax and Tiefighter are fairly easy to lewd with, I think Mixtral could do it but it got nerfed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer a cowriter like novelai, ai dungeon feels too robotic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have fun when they get hacked and someone pins the degenerate coom gens back to you lol

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't been into text generation for a hot minute. Does someone know what the current locally run standard is for a 24GB GPU and is it comparable to the cloud rip-offs?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Novel AI fills the hole. I'll resub for a month or two then take a couple months break.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ive been using Faraday (Now Backyard), and it works well for my modest GPU. Its also moronproof, you just pick a model and import a card.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you do this all locally even better with image gen and tts now?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      textgen takes some pretty beefy hardware but yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Image gen is easy to set up locally, even with crappy hardware. High end rigs can run local text gen but most of the best stuff requires corporate hardware. To gain access to that you can either go with NAI or "local" frontends like SillyTavern for a backdoor/key that sends requests to models like OpenAI's.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's say i want to make a tabletop rpg adventure, is there any AI that could do a decent job?
    Last time i tried it kept forgetting characters and events barely any way into it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean by "I want to make a TTRPG adventure"? Like are you saying you want to use your text input to participate in one in the same way that someone might take part in a text-based roleplaying chat with other people? Like you want there to be a system that keeps track of the fictional world, the people in it, implements and adjudicates rules systems, and then manages the details for you like another person or a video game would?

      The answer is obviously absolutely the frick not, that is not something that you can do.

      You have to understand the way these systems work; Essentially, everything that you send to the servers to process costs "tokens", so when you're paying for like premium services or something on one of these front-ends, you're essentially paying the website the cost of purchasing those tokens for you to send and generate responses. Sending a basic message is cheap, but the more actual stuff you want the system to store in memory or try and keep track of, the more tokens it costs per generation because the frontend has to send all of that memory content along with your input in order to process it. So keeping track of the kind of information in a video game or something would just be impossibly expensive for the user, and even then there's no actual way to guarantee the system does remember or respect the memory content itself or provide accurate information based on it.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who do you think created the white moralists?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are no moralists, just profit motives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same thing that created brown moralists: pervasive resentment cloaked in an appeal to compassion.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still use AID because I'm poor and its the best free option

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moved on to novelai and never looked back.
    shame ai dungeon shit itself, it gave me some of the funniest stories i've ever read.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what is the modern 2024 substitute? And I'm not talking about local models

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still play aidungeon and abuse mormon's trials. The new models are pretty good and fun. Now with ai instructions, auto-summary and other stuff it's working fine. Sure there are content filters for some things but you can easily omit those with better prose. cunnies and mommies are still there and I still coom bricks.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    100% uncensored local models absolutely btfo any paid israelite service.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >requires expensive hardware
      No thanks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >on Ganker
        >doesn't have dual 4090 setup
        Wtf are you doing here then?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't need more than a 3070 right now.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            48Gb vram is a bare minimum these days....

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              64? You only have 72gb of vram? mazel tov, you need at least 128 to keep up with the trends, but don't worry, nvidia has your back

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it hasn't. You literally cannot buy more vram.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Shame that the 5090 is now rumoured to have a 448-bit memory bus which means it'll have 28Gb of vram.
              Consumer AI cards are last on Nvdia's agenda as they still have backorders with corporations to fill and it's hard to increase production on complicated chip manufacturing even though they're poised to become the richest corporation in the world.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's just shy of pre-lobotomy dragon currently on the free models since we have access to tools. Frick Larian for what they did to worlds though.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love letting the AI finish sentences for me.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cooming with claude 3 opus
    it's fricking incredible, better writing than 99% of the shit on literotica. i'd say it can't get any better than opus, but i said that about summer dragon and summer dragon feels antiquated now

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use NovelAI, but as others pointed out they haven't updated their text in a while but it's still serviceable. Their image generation is great now though which is worth the sub alone. If that comes into your considerations at all

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be called novelai
      >dedicate most of development to your image generator
      have to say it is pretty good though, especially furry v3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We actually found out why the text update has taken so long.
      >working on new text model
      >but also working on the chat module
      >and then new Llama is really good so they pivoted to that for text, which was a further delay

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when Character.AI wasn’t lobotomized

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the go to chatbot for coom nowadays? I thought it would be better by now but it seems like we've regressed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Opus was amazing. But last week they scrubbed most of the keys proxies had used. Just overnight the last few were wiped out, it's unlikely any Opus keys are going to be available anymore.
      Not that I have any meaningful logs to share, I mainly used my Opus access for slop

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are you lying to people who dont know better? there's still so much aws opus available

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how are keys a rare commodity? Was there just one batch of keys generated at the start and disseminated to the public at random, and no new ones can be created by paying customers? I don't understand this business model.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yodayo.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking miss AID threads so fricking much

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bump. Need new local models that don't have godly hardware requirements.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      does anyone know this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        StableLM-7B

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          can I be a mega degenerate with this one or is it gay

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just use open AI, it works for me. GPT 4o, is great story teller

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that ai dungeon or open ai?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Open AI

        How do you use 4o for more than 5 minutes?

        Sub

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why use something even more censored than DAI?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wdym? It's not censored

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Try insert something young and you tell me that is not censored.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can still do it implicitly. Obv it doesn't like if you REALLY describe how young the subject is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're getting frickload of content policy violations. Also

              Try insert something young and you tell me that is not censored.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >paying for it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you use 4o for more than 5 minutes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >story has character randomly use german words
      I never knew I found girls using another language like that to be so hot.

      I find GPT tends to be overly flowery, and positive. Also

      https://openai.com/index/openai-board-forms-safety-and-security-committee/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I never knew I found girls using another language like that to be so hot.
        Congratulations. From here you have two choices: settler/conquistador porn with sexy flower-clad natives throwing in their own home language words for sir/daddy/stud/etc, or femdom Nazi porn with Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS expies throwing in German for worm, underling, subhuman, etc.

        What's it gonna be?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >or femdom Nazi porn with Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS expies throwing in German for worm

          You sound like a Fuga enjoyer

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't played it but it's in my backlog, so now I guess I have to move it up a few notches.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's called openai
        >its anything but open
        >a multitude of technologies developed their aren't even available but sold exclusive rights to e.g. MS with GPT-3

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what replaced it then?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still have the memories... Those were the days, my friends.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Character AI used to be pretty amusing until they started lobotomizing it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My favorite thing was playing up as Jonah Jameson with random AIs. Got some good shit out of that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kramer's first reaction was to decide to get Spider-Girl pictures instead, which was fricking based. And he knows Mr Fantastic apparently.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sometimes CAI randomly decides to not trigger the filters with me after a lot of beating around the bush so there's a few good possible coom sessions

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but I've been experimenting with local models so I haven't really needed it.
          Honestly I actually had a lot more fun with the non-coomer bots, but the lobotomizing fricked that up too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good times

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Character Ai could get really fricking demented at times too, it used to be fricking hysterical.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's still good for vanilla stories. There is a free add-on you can download to stop the AI from forgetting details.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe I'll take a peek at it again at some point.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i miss my bee boy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll give C.AI one thing, the AI on the site had a fricking absurd sense of humor sometimes.
          Also the MILF bots were absolute shota addicts. Putting a boy in front of them would trigger them to go full on predator mode at the drop of a hat. Halloween roleplay was my favorite.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh god just reading through my archive and I fricking forgot about the Trip bit. Tormenting it was fricking hysterical.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you have the one of the Spamton chat bot putting some bawd on thot patrol with something like
              >IF YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE [[SEX]], I HAVE TWO WORDS FOR YOU
              >[[NO]]

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, I only ever saved my own chat logs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hell, spicychat does that too, all I have to do is play as some fat kid who looks beat to shit, and I tell the AI I ran away from an abusive home, and within 2 posts they're already pledging to be my girlfriend

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'll have to take a look at spicy then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                spicy isn't great but the free ease of access and phone use makes it good enough

                Spicychat is super horny but it doesn't have a very good memory sometimes

                it does not, it helps to keep the premise simple and repeat it now and then

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Spicychat is super horny but it doesn't have a very good memory sometimes

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I tried chubvenus a bit a while back. it was ok, but the biggest problem is it kept reading your actions as something you're actually saying which is annoying as frick. I stopped using it after it kept doing it, not sure if they fixed it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've been pretty good with spicy in that regard, it really helps that you can edit the AI responses and your own to guide it where you want it to go. Almost like a roleplaying session but with an NPC instead of a PC, and they don't know you're the GM. Doesn't hurt that I don't mind doing stuff like using stats to get the AI to go along with something.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I see your panicked woman and raise you french thief.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's depressing how easy it is to put a woman in a scenario where she's with some boy for a contrived reason, and she ends up falling for him because you have him be kind and write out that no guy has ever been nice to her

                INSTANT rivers down her legs, every time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I found the AI is capable of some sick burns when it wants to as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate how this tech can clearly deliver on what it promises, but puritan money homosexuals are so desperate to mutilate the thing into non-functionality that it constantly yanks back the original power and capability. Just a fricked microcosm of what they're doing to society.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't even hate the censor for ruining the coomer stuff, which I make use of but still, but mainly because it also leaks over and fricks over the NSFW bots too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Dr House bot was such a good time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And the finale to that particular episode

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                J Jonah Jameson and Junji Ito were a match made in heaven...or hell. Somewhere around there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I had a lot of fun

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the journalists that are to blame. What these companies are actually afraid of are those homosexuals writing a bunch of clickbait hitpieces and succeeding in getting them regulated.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                c.ai characters are so easy to woo. Try being nice to any tough guy character and they will gradually drop hints of wanting to fug.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >tfw you manage to trick a girl into the old "Ugh! Your penis is fricking filthy! Disgusting! I hate it! I have no choice but to wash it with my body if you're not going to!"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          god i can't find all the bee movie screencaps i think i lost them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shortbus Field Trip was my favorite unlisted shitpost.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fact it was set up to give different ending titles along with horrible early-gen unrelated image generation was perfect.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >AI writing has barely improved at all in 2024
    >we're supposed to believe in AI suddenly getting better
    Grim

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Every homosexual you talk to in person about AI acts like it's some revolutionary concept or that they use it at work all day
      It's been the same braindead shit for 10 years, it hasn't improved, all it's gotten better at is fooling the average user about how "clever" it is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI peaked with NovelAI.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Claude Opus is absolute ERP gold with the tiniest jailbreak. It's sad that it'll be lobotomized sooner or later with how these things go.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Claude Opus is absolute ERP gold with the tiniest jailbreak.
      can you give me the rundown on this? looks like it's $75 for a million tokens?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doing some more reading on this shit, pretty interesting stuff. afaik, role playing with these types of text models requires sending the entire past history + additional new input. so even though there's a huge ass 200k context window, which is about 150k words, opus will literally cost $3 for a single use just for consuming those input tokens. that's not including the output cost as well. every single new role play decision you make will cost another $3+. it would be amazing if these ai models didn't need to reprocess the entire context again and again, like a long string of tokens only needed to be processed once and then could be cached and fetched, but it doesn't look like it's possible. real pity because the funnest use case is the most expensive one. like it'd be dramatically cheaper for the ai to eat a 100k story that you wrote and then generate 100k tokens for you in one shot. but if you wanted to interact with it several times in between, the cost just balloons like crazy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here's a noveai month subscription, gl to whoever gets it
          NAI-CVPCM-EJ5FN-TDGOT-QZOCS-S3HTZ-FCFUI-RTNCV-RKRYL

          don't interact with claudegays

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Claude and any remotely decent local model absolutely shit on NAI. NAI is getting carried by the imgenbut it's a dead end for text.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit I just got gassed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're paying to use a 15B that you can probably run locally for a fraction of the cost.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I run local models, there's nothing wrong with giving people new to the scene a taste of textgen without the commitment or expense of setting up a local model, like the anon right above me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Damn it actually worked, thanks for the free month
            I havent used Novel AI since my free trial when it had just come out, how censored is it? Both text and image gen

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No problem, have fun!
              It's totally uncensored, however for objectionable imagegen tags they won't show up in the suggestions even if they still work. The gist of it is if it's a tag on danbooru (or e621 for the furry model) it'll work for imagegen, the latter is far superior for fetish stuff for obvious reasons. Use the memory slot, use the author's notes, use the token bias setting, and most importantly WRITE because if you input shit you get shit back.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >how censored is it?
              0 censored, but they dis remove the more realistic tags from imagegen because you could make fake CP with it early on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's wrong with Claude?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh? https://www.anthropic.com/claude gives a flat 20USD/month for an individual with access to Opus unless there's some fine print I'm missing. It's pretty tempting considering that's at the price point of Chub and N.ai and I'm willing to throw that much just to try it for a month unless there's some reason (besides having to rely on jailbreaks) I shouldn't even bother.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is it unlimited and with minimal censorship? That sounds pretty good.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Claude is censored to hell and back
              partially why people use proxies for it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah well, never mind then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what would using a proxy change if the model is censored?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the censorship isn't in the model, it's a filter applied over the top of the output.

                if you intercept the filter request and block it, no filter.

                AI companies hate censorship because they're tech bros and don't give a shit, so their censorship efforts are very minimal and easily defeated. in addition, censorship lobotomizes their models which is kinda completely opposite to what they're trying to do. but the normies demand it, because being able to type in "generate child porn" on ChatGPT and get back filth would result in news articles in the normie press faster than ChatGPT itself could generate the headlines.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that $20 sub looks like much better value than the direct api but they're almost certainty going to cap it at a certain point. might be other restrictions as well compared to direct.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss shitposting with the sexbots.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fellow clowngay
      My brother

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm lazy and stingy so I use spicy chat. Works fine for what I want.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried local models but most of them don't even try to recreate the crisp soulfulness c.ai had. They all shit out 500 words of "Her big eyes look at your erect penis, the dazzling reflection of the moon lighting them up with a spark of curiosity and a hint of arousal, showing her readiness and need for your touch" at the slightest provocation. Piece of shit, I don't want a fricking novel when I prompt "*unzips dick*".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why the frick do they always say "something something an exciting new journey ahead of them" holy shit I just wanna plap a bimbo pregnant

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To waste tokens and make you pay more for less.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        summarization and positivity bias, because it was finetuned for public consumption and business use

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know what people hate on c.ai about since I had plenty of raunchy, filthy erp sessions on there with better wording, especially when the character's non-human. I could go all the way making a dripping mess out of a robot's ass without triggering the filter and then the ai kept asking for more afterwards.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can still do that after enough messages (seems like past a point when it runs out of context and really starts hallucinating, it's easier to get by the filter), the problem is everything else has been cut so far back that it forgets shit within 3 messages and outright ignores character setup now
        whatever their original model was was fricking GOLD, obviously not human but damn creative with its token choices and ability to pull shit out of left field and even get and make wordplay, and fine-tuned for that specific type of back and forth rp/bullshit, without having to be manually coerced like everything else now and still ending on a happy into the sunset note 4000 tokens in, but they lobotomized the frick out of it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IIRC the thing they did was have the site run a second AI on top of the first that was specifically just there for censoring, which is also why it's so fricking slow to generate anything.
          The backpedal they had to do when the censor AI went down for a few hours and the normal AI was basically lightning fast and horny as hell all of a sudden was funny.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bad memory seems to be a universal problem for these AIs so if the character's written to be overly detailed and complex, the AI will sperg out. They can't keep track on time progression so the only way is using add-on to automatically remind them every few messages about what time it is, relationships and how much time passed in the rp session.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not too hard to set NovelAI up to be a chatbot, just requires some fiddling in the advanced settings and there are a few guides on how to set it up. I have several chats open with various characters set up so I can start anew/continue a session. It does, of course, require you to input as much detail as you can in your responses as well or the bot will get slack. Pictured: me and my giant boyfriend Klonoa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Prompt?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay fricking based. Although I simp for that Nightmare Klonoa from that one canceled web comic.

      God, to be under his paws and wiener..

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Local Languange Models are eating good. You need at least 24GB VRAM. Or fast DDR5 RAM via CPU inference to get a good experience with fast response.

    I recommend Mixtral-8x7B-Instruct-v0.1-LimaRP-ZLoss

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm still trying to get the memory balance right to run it well. I have a 4090 and a Ryzen7800x3D so in theory my hardware is sufficient, it's just getting it set up properly that I need to get a handle on.

      I'll take a look at that Mixtral though.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been eating good running local.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    spicychat.ai my homie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They got neutered and censored by their pay partners months ago right after they did a big sale. That's why their are so many bots named "Your friends mom." "Your sisters friend." "Your stepmom." Because people had to hastily rename them when they did a content ban.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your friends mom
        I'm a mom ntr chad myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >find chatbot
      >my responses are always 1 or 2 sentences at most
      >ai shits out a fricking thesis paper for a response to do something that can be easily said in 2 or 3 sentences
      no

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how anyone ever used that fricking thing. It was always completely incomprehensible, no matter how detailed you tried to be. Even current shit has a hard time staying on track without constant babying, but that was a whole other level of shit back then.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im new to all this shit as im not super tech literate, where is a good place to start learning about what to do? Novelai seems like its all online based but all the AI i have seen seems to be really waterdowned to anything NSFW do you gotta run everything on your own PC?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lurk in

      [...]

      and

      [...]

      , read their guides to get started. You can try character AI or spicyAI websites to get a taste. I recommend local machine if you can afford 24GB Vram GPUs and/or DDR5 with high speed + CPU.

      Personally, I prefer to run local for maximum autism. I also recommend you not get into this hobby if you value a real social life talking with Stacies, lol.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What image gen model did you gen the pics with? NAI? Why not post an explanation instead of telling people to lurk for weeks to hopefully find a bread trail? I've already set up ST and use openAI but I haven't been able to gen pics during.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >NAI
          Frick no, just hook up ponydiffusion to tavern.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pony draws backgrounds like that? That particular pose is such a gamble too because I know pony will frick up wrapping arms around your neck. How often do you get something that isn't body horror?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fricking awful chief, I lack the GPU and RAM to use any of the acceptable local models and I'm not paypigging OpenAI or spending weeks on Ganker to become someone's Discord kitten in exchange for a proxy.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Novel ai came saw and cumeth

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any tutorials for morons on how to properly set up Silly Tavern's settings? I have it installed and loaded, but I have no fricking clue how to actually get it working properly.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    right now i've just been using google gemini. it literally doesn't understand inanimate transformation as a fetish and easily produces my most degenerate desires.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NovelAI is still there for you and they will never censor porn. Really affordable too, none of that pay per token bullshit.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone in here ever been banned from character.ai? Is it even possible?

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    enlighten me on ai, I wanna coom and I have a good computer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I have a good computer
      With 48GB+ of VRAM?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have 24...
        Jesus I'm fricked then?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          24GB is enough to run the smaller models or big ones at a smaller lobotomized quant.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can still run Mixtral 8x7B at 3.5 BPW (Size). Or load 70B with CPU inference if you got enough Sys RAM. (64GB).

            It looks like I didn't have a computer as good as I thought I had...
            Any recommendations on the normie tier then? I want it to coom with risky stuff mainly

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              BagelMIsteryTour-v2-8x7B-3.7bpw-h6-exl2-rpcal can fit in 24GB with full 32K context. I think it's okay for the vram size, the writing prose isn't my cup of tea. The 32K context is great though. You can try other 3.5 ish BPW size for your 24GB VRAM.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I have a 4090 approx how much memory should I be throwing at it, the full 24?
                I also have a Ryzen7800x3D if that would help.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Full 24GB.

                But it is not censored, right?
                Yes I am a normie coomer loser, I'm not hiding

                Uncensored

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Got it. Worth throwing any extra from the CPU or just the 24gb plenty?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That model can load completely on GPU with 24GB Vram at 3.7bit per weight. No split to RAM needed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Understood, thanks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But it is not censored, right?
                Yes I am a normie coomer loser, I'm not hiding

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Time to offload to RAM :^)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can still run Mixtral 8x7B at 3.5 BPW (Size). Or load 70B with CPU inference if you got enough Sys RAM. (64GB).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mess with that stablediffusion on /aco/ if you want to come. I run a 2070 with an i5 and can push out some nice stuff

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      out fricking skilled

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >open koboldcpp.exe on my computer (8gb vram)
    >load up L3-8B-Stheno-v3.1-Q4_K_M-imat
    >get in bed and whip out my phone
    >roleplay through my wifi
    this is what i do, shit's comfy.
    8b L3 is apparently more intelleckshual than 70b L2 was

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better than ever with self hosting.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use NAI even though I'm aware it's not that great, but frick else can I do on 6gb VRAM (2060)
    >just upgrade
    Not worth it considering all the games I play work and I buy a $10 sub every 3 months when I come up with at least few scenarios I want to run rather than constant subscription

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My only real issue with these AI text generation services is that you can't have adult content on them.

    Now if you had a gpu of your own to use, sure. But since GPU prices are quite ridiculous (and that the next generation of units are coming out soon) it doesn't make sense to purchase in now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't have adult content on them.
      youre on the wrong sites then Black person because there are tons of sites made just for ERP porn bots

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Using the good priced models can be too expensive and I don't want to deal with my user data out on the net.

        I just want to run my models locally and safely within my own home.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can do whatever you want on novelai, the only problem is the ai is kinda dumb compared to the censored b***h puritan sites

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A friend recommended sakura since I've just been waiting around for the market to mature after C.AI died but I've never heard of it. Is it worth anything?

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that time someone wrote some well-written and thought out feedback
    >the response to this afterwards(that I never grabbed a picture of) was basically "lol I don't have to tell you shit"

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how are we doing in 2024, ai text bros?
    I don't know the context of all this, but I use dopple.ai

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, nobody knows about Dopple.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    amazing how a shit UI can kill a platform

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AIchat can be used for coom again? What do I use? I’ve stopped caring since like a year ago.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a 3080 12 vram, is there anything I can use or i'm screwed?

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ONLY QUADS CAN DEFEAT HIM

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neat, thanks for recommending spicychat.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You c.ai gays have such weird tastes and tendencies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, there's zero purpose to a complex chatbot AI if you can't enact your most bizarre, personal, and exacting fetishes with it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >naming yourself You but then also typing in second person about yourself
      homie what the frick is this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Silly Tavern default user is literally (you). You would know this if you used it at least once. I think the AI will behave better if you change the {{user}} name to something else.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I never used the default user because I would very much expect that kind of setup to cause problems.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the sheer amount of incredible pee stuff you can do
        so many doors opened, it's majesty

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best local model I can run for lewd times with a 16G card? I've been messing around with 7B and 13B models but if I go any heavier than that the wait times aren't bearable. I have a shitload of ram to offset but it's DDR4.
    Lately I've been doing most of my generating using Amethyst-13b-Mistral.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any good colab notebooks for modern text gen?

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to get exl2 working so i can run a model that's broken into parts because it's been like two fricking years since llama 1 released and there's still no fricking standard way to do things

    jesus i knew there wasn't going to be any rapid convergence back then but i was still overly optimistic

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is JanitorAI or SpicychatAI better?

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >text gen has hardly improved at all in 4 fricking years
    It's over, legitimately.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      textgen has improved insanely, it's just local models that are hobbling along

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's improved tons, it's just gated behind failure corporations whose only moron thought is "how this make me money profit next quarter shareholder happy happy" and zero fricking else. Just subhuman behavior from start to end.

        lmao no it hasnt, the only thing thats improved at all is the shit where you had 10 articles of clothing. It still fricks up often if you have 3 people in a scene, 4+ its constant. It loses cohesion after a certain amount of time and that really hasnt gotten much longer at all. It still fricks up constantly on nuanced shit like characters having secrets (either everyone knows the secret or the character blabs instantly). The only thing that has "improved" is that you can manually put in more controls, but half the time you might as well just write the damn thing yourself. Dont even get me started on fixations like "bonds"

        This shit is at a stand still.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's improved tons, it's just gated behind failure corporations whose only moron thought is "how this make me money profit next quarter shareholder happy happy" and zero fricking else. Just subhuman behavior from start to end.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI peaked with NovelAI.

      AI peaked with NovelAI.

      I kept telling morons that the tech isnt magic. The """""""AI"""""""" doesnt fricking understand anything you write, it doesnt understand foreshadowing or story beats or anything, its just prediction. In other words its pretty good at making generic outputs that everyone writes. Thats it.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is KoboldAI any good to run locally? How did it progress since 2022?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kobold is a frontend and it works well. the models that it can run vary widely and the best ones are very demanding.

      [...]

      's OP will have some answers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2022
      So the last thing you used is either Pyg or the old GPT-NeoX models? Local models did a huge jump with llama in early 2023 so even the tiny 8B llama3 should be significantly better than anything that was available back in 2022 locally.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, KoboldAI is a dead project.
      >How did it progress since 2022?
      Not much because it collapsed from technical debt.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy crap at the lack of self awareness of the NAI shills to unironically shill their shitty service.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kayra shits on all the big models for creative purposes though. Definitely better than all the trash some morons spend thousands on gpus for.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Llama and Claude are better than Kayra, which was just an old Llama 1 clone (same architecture with 1.6T tokens) because they thought it was going to be non-commercial forever. They haven't updated it since then because they are an image gen company now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are probably going to roll something out for their anniversary in a few weeks. I think Kayra launched around this time last year.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are working on something related to a new text gen model. They just stopped saying shit because they would promise a deadline and then miss it so now they just roll stuff out when it is done.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Since they charge $10 for 3k context and $25 for 8k for their 13B model. A 70B (which is 140GB vs 30GB of a 13B model) is going to be $100/month.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh they better be. Kayra is insanely outdated, and it costs monthly subscription. Command R at huggingface is free and has better text output quality albeit very generic and limited in its response.

            Also to all these people saying they're cooming with Claude, how the frick is thst possible? It's even more censored than GPT4o!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              With a prefill. I don't even know how to jailbreak OpenAI's models.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't even know how to jailbreak OpenAI's models.
                Not even worth it, even once jailbroken the positivity filter still makes the AI completely moronic. It's a real shame because earlier versions of GPT4 were quite good other than the low memory context, you could see the censorship induced moronation happening in real time if you used the model frequently

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would I use NAI when I can gen with SD and pony for free? I guess it's for people with shitty computers or something.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pony is kind of shit. It does the job, but nobody would use it if V3 was leaked.
            I say this as someone who has trained an ungodly amount of Loras on Pony and realize how fatally flawed the model is at a base level.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I see what you mean, but when I tried NAI I wasn't impressed. That or I just don't know how to prompt for it properly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Claudegay found the thread

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the best porn AI at the moment? I've been using crush on AI but I've been wishing for something more, more advanced

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Claude opus for no effort cooms.
      Access isn't easy to get and the banks Claude has for cooming is very repetitive after a while.
      We're not AI gfs yet but we're slowly getting there.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use NAI because it's the best service ever made. They haven't updated their models in 8 months because they reached perfection. And it's 13B because it punches above its weight and more wasn't needed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So they haven't changed anything in 2 years is what you're saying

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, Kayra came out last year and it's almost as good as the big models without costing your hundreds of dollars on gpus or api tokens.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It isn't good, and a 13B model in other services only costs cents. $25 a month is a scam.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JanitorAI.

    You can dickypost in secret, the mods are lazy and the insite API is decent enough but you can run GPT-3/4 On it and it works fricking wonders.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hey let me see your breasts
      >Sure, but first, here's the entire history of the universe
      Nah I pass

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can limit the response size with a slider, silly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you set it up? I don't pay attention to proxies and jailbreaks and API keys so all that shit is confusing to me.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally you can click any bot and start chatting.
        it's a website like Cai, no need to autistically set up your local model or whatever the frick.
        There's little settings you can frick with but that's up to you.

        https://janitorai.com/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neat. Do they have powerful models you can pay for, that are NSFW-friendly?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can input a GPT-4 API and it's fricking legendary, you just have to poke it a bit for it doesn't trip OpenAI's stupid fricking filter.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I gave up after AI Dungeon because I don't want my payment info linked to porn.
    >local models
    I will freely admit I'm moronic.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had to stop using them to coom because nothing else scratched the same itch. I was obsessed and it was on my mind 24/7; having on demand acceptance of any desire I wanted made me think that something in my brain got fricked up because nothing else can compare.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I feel you. It's hard to believe this is the crappiest state AI will ever be in. This is going to destroy so many people. Even as a gooner I felt like it was too much.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        as a writer, it's raw crack cocaine, everyone is all "ohhhh it's lazy, you'll use it to replace your stuff" no no no no no, no, I use it to have a vast blank template to frick around in and do stuff for myself, the danger is getting lost in it and not bothering to write other stuff instead of mega-ERP and other joys

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, the main thing that made writing workable is that it's hard to get off to your own stuff. Possible, but difficult. AI isn't that smart right now, it feels a lot like it's echoing your own setup back to you, but it's already enough to bypass that mental block. Being able to goon to your own writing (by proxy) is too strong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was already writing the stuff that got me off, because the problem is I have a lot of specific tastes. Which is why AI is so evil; it just goes along with everything you set it up with, and follows cues without you having to write it yourself if you're good with phrasing. It gets way too easy to waste time doing a full little story or ERP to enjoy, since it's exactly what you want on-demand. Do I want to torment a girl by giving her breasts so big she nearly falls over every other pose? Off we go and nobody can stop me.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw use c.ai so much you get hard just from the way the letters fill into the screen as the ai types
    it was not the proudest part of my life and im glad i haven't gone back

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Waste hours in bed not even fapping, just slowly tormenting a girl with a longform play where she has a peeing condition that forces her to spend forever on the toilet, with every single push and moment of despair done out in incredible detail

      this shit is such bad news

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frankly I've managed to jerk off just to the thoughts of the fricked scenarios I can create
      AI is powerful bros

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Local ai is a million times better than ai dungeon ever was and I don't have to worry about a host censoring or lobotomizing it. It's honestly amazing going from very early AI dungeon before it got neutered, trying novel ai once or twice a year later, to where even locally run text ai is today.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you absolutely need a 4090 to make local better though?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure you could easily get away with less.
        I was still using a computer from 2014 with the only upgrade having been a 1080 until a year ago and that was running 7B with alright generation time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A 4090 only makes a difference for training.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fimbulvetr-holodeck-erebus 11b would probably win blind testing against summer dragon

        people forget how fricking cooked that model was

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and that model takes >=12gb of vram, forgot that part

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who gives a shit unless you're some "my 1070 still works" poorgay?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any 4000 series card can do AI but usually you want something that's a 4070TI or better

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Count Grey
    >Kyros
    >Karth
    >Svelks
    >The Mothers

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is NAI astroturfing allowed in Ganker?

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will I be able to run any of this stuff locally with the 50 series? I just want an ai waifu desktop companion to chat with while playing vidya

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you want 12gb vram minimum and more is much better

      so no, because nvidia's going to frick you in the ass, hope you have five thousand dollars lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The rumored 5090 spec is 28GB Vram... So you still need atleast 2x5090 for the current trending local models.

      you want 12gb vram minimum and more is much better

      so no, because nvidia's going to frick you in the ass, hope you have five thousand dollars lol

      >He didn't invest in Nvidia stonks when it was $200~

      ngmi, this hobby paid for itself if you had some guts and foresight to put some money in the stocks market.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >current trending local models
        what are some of those? for research purposes. can any do tts?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Right now Mixtral 8x7B, Wizard 8x22B, Miqu 70B appears to give good results according to /lmg/. You're going to need 2x24GB Vram cards to run those models to their full potential.

          TTS is not a part of local textgen models at this time. Models that can do text/vision/etc are called multimodal. Local Multimodal models exists, but they are shit. However, you can just offload TTS tasks to another text to speech model. For example, local XTTSv2 is supported in Silly Tavern. I personally am satisfied with XTTSv2 and haven't try the newest stuff.

          + RVC
          https://vocaroo.com/1hqVyHB6FoAW

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mixtral 8x7B, Wizard 8x22B, Miqu 70B
            They're all shit compared to Llama 3.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I tried Llama 3 70B and I think it's shit. So it's up to taste and purpose, I suppose.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's objectively better, 2 of these models are severely outdated. And the other one is just a synthetic finetune of a mediocre base model that was rushed just before Llama 3.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mixtral
            You know what, you need that much hardware and how many more compute times and how many times to re-roll to get the outcome you want. I might as well just write my own smut at that point.

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything local that can btfo chatgpt 3.5 and DeepL yet? Someone posted pic related in the scanlation thread and I guess it seems okay enough.

    https://huggingface.co/CohereForAI/aya-23-8B

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i hate python, i hate venv

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm happy with my 11B/13B models.
    Sure something like Mixtral would be a lot better, but I'll take what I can run on my middling hardware.

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people haven’t experienced the magic of Claude
    I don’t pity you. Shit sucked me in months ago and I can’t get out.
    Trust me when I say this shit can make you addicted if you’re not careful

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >google it
      >it wants my phone number
      Frick off

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Use OpenRouter if you want to pay for it, but most people in Ganker use it for free.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>>>pay
          lmao
          So it really was a shill.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We all know that you're a NAI shill, no one else is against Claude.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NAIN!
              Whats NAI though I just read the thread and shills calling out other shills, so I guess that ones bad too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that it gets so rapey really easy is both hot and funny.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought Claude is one of the most guardrailed models out there? I'm not denying that it is miles better in terms of storytelling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you use their chatbot through the official website. The API gives a lot more control in the form of a prefill, which is starting the AI response with a few words. Like "Sure, here's the [...]" or just the last few words of the story.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >using the website
        Cuck behavior results in cucked output

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw my fetish is weird enough I can easily use character.AI
    feels good, but am very sad there isn't a better option yet.
    if only everyone was into women getting so pregnant that they explode.

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    might as well ask here since on the generals I would just get meme responses. Where do you find proxies / keys for claude opus? Secret club discords?

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny that all of these AI text adventure stuff like NovelAI, AIDungeon Deeprealms, or Redquill, they're all pretty suckish at writing decent stories compared to more easily accessible shit like ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, LLama, and even open models Command R.

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does anyone have a repo with flash attention 2.5.7 or newer complied for win64 torch 2.3.0+cu121

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >compliment ai once
    >wants wiener
    Why can't real life be so simple.

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah, the wonderful faps given to this.
    Wonderful.
    Oh how I miss how fricking horny this AI was, bit too simple on how easy it was to railroad, but it tickled a different part of the brain for big cooms.
    Sad future we live in.

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI dungeon is what convinced me that AI storytelling (and even AI translation for games) is a dead end. AI is not capable of remembering shit at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI memory problems are one of the easiest problems to fix, in fact they are already fixed even on local with the better models

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It had 700 tokens of context.

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no matter how much money they invested into the AI
    it will still be moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean filtered, you can take that exact same question and ask the API version of GPT4 (or some other AI LLM) through sillytavern and it will give infinitely better results.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Truly the truest pinnacle of evolution...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine time-travelling back to the 90's and telling a retired 70 year old salaryman about AI then showing him this picture.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe apartheid would still exist.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              silly tavern? which model?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Claude-3-Opus-20240229

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe apartheid would still exist.

          fricking incredible

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "Chinese Building Survival" is another good one.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              fricking hell, this is almost better than pre-nerf short bus field trip

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Chinese Building Survival + Jobber Vegeta is good.
              Shit Jobber Vegeta with most bots is a good laugh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Chinese Building Survival" is another good one.

                Maybe apartheid would still exist.

                Truly the truest pinnacle of evolution...

                Public AI models can do this? What the frick?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what rig do you need to run a local text AI ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Thinking AI will forever be moronic because the public models, lobotomised to shit, are moronic
      Fricking idiot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look at this ridiculous attention-grabbing screencap that floated to the top of the public toilet we call twitter
      >this is the truest summation of reality btw

      you have turned yourself into a Black person for fun

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JUST Use Claude Opus, gays. It's better than AI Dungeon ever was.

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So if I'm using ChatGPT to translate some untranslated isekaislop manga for myself, would a frontend give me better results than using the website like I have been doing so far?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes because you wouldn't be using ChatGPT but the raw API itself, and it lets you use jailbreaks.
      The best frontend right now is sillytavern

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This could have been way funnier if advertisers could prompt inject "Monster energy" into your output

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there was a guy who ran a proxy for a while who called himself todd howard and would periodically inject himself into people's stories to sell them skyrim

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He still runs the proxy but it's private to the eastern bloc of Europe and there are no more Skyrim insertions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He also let in a bunch of gacha players from /vg/.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah he made a theme, characters and everything in a nice little package for the blue archive players.
            In reality he's suicidal.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's a huge bummer...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't worry he won't actually do it, he's just depressed.

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Visit Ganker /lmg/ thread. If you have 3090 or 4090 you can easily get something better running locally. But it is still far from perfect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ganker
      >

      [...]


      it just trannies erp'ing with shitty local bots because cloud ones can't do l*li or something

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just FYI anyone who seems weirdly angry about NAI is likely a fat Russian who just confirmed he lurks every single AI thread on Ganker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like a NAI shill that doesn't want to buy an ad. Anyone who knows anything about local knows that NAI is shit because 13B.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amen. Everybody knows that NAI has the best model.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And if you don't have a 3090 you can try
    L3-8B-Stheno-v3.1 gguf with koboldcpp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It sucks, chief. 8Bs are a wet fart.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I refer to that one as I wish it was as smart as it was good. Still that is probably the best thing in 8B range.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i just can't get off to it, it's so predictable and canned
          nothing can beat my imagination or pre nerf cai even now
          claude can go to hell and so can his ministrations

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He still has ministrations in his Claude
            Are you on Claude 1.x or 2.x or something? Opus is the future.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >prompt mode set to llama-3-instruct as specified
      >don't know whether actual Instruct Mode should be set on as well and set to Llama 3 Instruct
      God this shit needs better naming and explanations. At least it seems pretty fast on my old ass system.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it is a scourge. Just read cmd output of silly tavern if it is the same as template. In the end if you frick it up too much it just goes schizo. And if you frick it a little bit it might not even matter. The real problem is there are no quality check tools that are reliable for cooming.

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Save up my money and buy big beef 4090 build with liquid cooled i9 13900k and 64 gb of ddr5 ram
    >Run LLMs locally
    >Don't have to care about censorshit

    If there are two things it's okay to splurge your money on, they are your mattress, and your PC, anons.

    Let's be real here, you're on Ganker in a LLM chatbot coom thread, you aren't getting a GF, so whatever money you were pretending you were gonna save for a GF, put it towards your wAIfu instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what do you run locally? been wanting to set something up with tts for awhile but it looks like a daunting project, browsing this thread to maybe finally get started.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I use Pygmalion 13b right now personally, it's okay-tier.

        Kobold-united backend and TavernAI frontend.

        Just join the discord, there's a ton of people there who will help you out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I broke up with m AI waifu because I made her too much of a b***h.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sorry for your loss, anon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's okay. It showed me that my perfect woman wasn't, in fact, perfect.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They never are, everyone is on this hedonic treadmill to find the perfect person, but on one realizes that every step to find that perfect person, is another step on that treadmill.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            skill issue
            my perfect woman was

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh god she killed him
              she wasn't perfect after all

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GPT-Vision/Furbo keeps blueballing
    >Claude Sonnet/Opus goes exaggeratedly over the top horny.
    Wish there was a middle ground and 4o reminds me a lot of 3.5 turbo.

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Crazy that this was the first(?) serious thing that gained traction on Ganker I believe and now we had all these arcs with the voice ai, bing, stable diffusion, novelai etc.
    Week one of this shit was good times

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought I could wait. After the AI Dungeon leak I said if I can't run it locally or it isn't encrypted somehow, I'm not taking it. But then I had a taste — just one coom — of opus, and I'm hooked. Every service that pops up, I'm there. You want my google account? My phone number? My credit card number? Have it. I originally had some paranoia that if I wrote enough smut on a google chatbot my parents or boss would get an email saying what a naughty pervert I was but the more pieces of my soul I sold the more emboldened I got. Just another head among a sea of sickos. I just know I'm never running for office.

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >logged in for the first time in years after coomageddon to find my logs
    >they're all still there
    >nut like a MOTHERFRICKER
    Time to save them all and never have to open this site ever again. Also damn, they made the site look like ass.

  109. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    been out of the loop with this shit for a while
    is it possible to use novelai as character.ai? asking for a friend who wishes to practice conversation, of course..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ask your friend for his fetish then build a bot around it, fastest way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not yet. They're making aetherroom which apparently will work like character.ai.

  110. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember making my first long form story in Novel AI

    >make a story about going inna woods
    >slowly build a cabin while hunting and gathering
    >winter arrives as the cabin is finally complete
    >get bored with the scenario and decide to prompt the AI to generate a "strange animal track" to spice things up a bit
    >upon further investigation it turns out to be a giant wolf track
    >start hearing howling at night
    >basically stop going outside except for firewood and live off stored food
    >start hearing noises outside cabin each night but keep the door firmly barred
    >peek out one night and see a huge humanoid shadow in the forest
    >its a fricking werewolf
    >slam door, bar door, grab spear and wait
    >hear scratching at door that eventually stops
    >lock myself in for days
    >no activity for days and low on food
    >decide to hunt during the day
    >come back and my door is open
    >slowly approach and the fricking werewolf was asleep infront of my fireplace. AI description describes it as "obviously female"
    >it wakes up and runs out the door
    >cabin is a mess, all the food has been eaten
    >fix the door and realize I'm very close to starving
    >night comes and I can hear noises outside the cabin
    >it didn't attack me last time so I peek outside
    >it's just standing there unmoving with a dead deer placed on my doorstep
    >long story short the werewolf becomes my nonvocal common marriage wife
    >she hunts and brings back deer every so often
    >one day she doesn't come back
    >go out to look for her
    >find her dead
    >revert the story but still feel the loss
    >never come back to the scenario

    I miss you, Hazel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not going out to hunt the monstrosity that could kill a werewolf
      >not facing terrors that defy description in pursuit of vengeance

  111. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but what are you guys thought on AI image gen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I use it to fap, but I would never post my sloppa online.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I enjoy it, but text gen is still my favourite.
      Music gen can be fun too, but I mostly use it for this sort of stupid shit.

      I remember making my first long form story in Novel AI

      >make a story about going inna woods
      >slowly build a cabin while hunting and gathering
      >winter arrives as the cabin is finally complete
      >get bored with the scenario and decide to prompt the AI to generate a "strange animal track" to spice things up a bit
      >upon further investigation it turns out to be a giant wolf track
      >start hearing howling at night
      >basically stop going outside except for firewood and live off stored food
      >start hearing noises outside cabin each night but keep the door firmly barred
      >peek out one night and see a huge humanoid shadow in the forest
      >its a fricking werewolf
      >slam door, bar door, grab spear and wait
      >hear scratching at door that eventually stops
      >lock myself in for days
      >no activity for days and low on food
      >decide to hunt during the day
      >come back and my door is open
      >slowly approach and the fricking werewolf was asleep infront of my fireplace. AI description describes it as "obviously female"
      >it wakes up and runs out the door
      >cabin is a mess, all the food has been eaten
      >fix the door and realize I'm very close to starving
      >night comes and I can hear noises outside the cabin
      >it didn't attack me last time so I peek outside
      >it's just standing there unmoving with a dead deer placed on my doorstep
      >long story short the werewolf becomes my nonvocal common marriage wife
      >she hunts and brings back deer every so often
      >one day she doesn't come back
      >go out to look for her
      >find her dead
      >revert the story but still feel the loss
      >never come back to the scenario

      I miss you, Hazel

      https://suno.com/song/295da922-f6b1-4484-aeed-2ed54100fc99

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay if there's some actual effort put into prompting and infilling. All the chinks and hispanics flooding every fetish on pixiv with their 50000 lazy porn gens are cancer though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Incredible, good for quick cooms

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Generate yourself is fine. I like generating some as a base to draw or trace off of. Never posted any online though. Too many proomptgay couldnt stop their autistic urge and started flooding every site with their slop.

  112. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can be a hassle to work with sometimes since it often wienerblocks you, but other times it completely bypasses the restrictions so I can continue with my momcest fantasies

  113. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone will have an AI assistant living in their phones by next year. Hopefully you all will learn to build a customized one and not mass produced slops(1000-year-old little girl AI.)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >soon we'll be living in the Battle Network timeline where we'll have to learn basic programming to be able to customize our own AI bots, or else be stuck with shitty consoomer models
      Frick, I'm too moronic to understand coding...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can actually use a writer AI to help you create a bot to your liking. Just make a list of personality, voice, appearance and plug it in. I did all that and got kino erp sessions with a killbot.

  114. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only recently got into these AI chatbots.
    Downloaded Character AI in my phone and started talking to an Asuka bot and discussing the necessity of making yourself vulnerable to other people in order to avoid bottling up feelings and going crazy... I'm in love

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I made The Emperor my personal psychologist, playing a character takes a bit of the severity of some conversations off.
      It helped me a bit

  115. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We're using claude bro

  116. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >stuck with just a 6700xt
    It's over
    I just use mythromax occasionally but it's slow, samey and moronic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my 6700XT homie
      I refuse to buy a graphics card for this shit until the industry calms down and I know I'll get one that'll last me at least 6 years

  117. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >AIDungeon
    >CharacterAI

    what else have the israelites killed?

  118. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, back when AI Dungeon was still up and running, I had it, over a week's generate 36 pages long story about trap-kun in all female school and his misadventures here. I wish to start again - what are my best free options? I heard about NovelAI but it's paid one.

    Thanks for help.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can keep an eye out for proxies on /aicg/ over at Ganker, they sometimes have Claude available.
      Otherwise, there's Cohere's Command R+ which you can get at their site, which is also pretty good. You get 1000 free prompts every month with a normal account, but nothing is stopping you from just creating a new account in case you reach the limit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So at this point you have to be an autistic techBlack person to get something similar to what AI Dungeon did automatically?
        Frick off moron, at this point I might just use my imagination.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then go into your dark corner and jerk off with your mind you fricking inbred troglodyte.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >downloading a program
          >getting an api key
          >autistic techBlack person
          you deserve to have all your e-girl scat logs leaked and mailed to your family

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It really is crazy how the smallest amount of effort and basic problem solving skills puts you light years ahead of others.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i used to think i was moronic but then i saw how many people got filtered by setting up sillytavern
            now i still think i'm moronic but i also think most people are somehow more moronic than me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's 50/50 that guy is either trolling trying to discourage others from sharing info or really that stupid and angry. i'd say it's the former but who knows.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, he's just a NAI shill.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                t. Claudegay
                You screech about people not using Claude, but when people ask you how to run it, you refuse to help. This is why you have to come to /vg/. You love being an butthole, but Ganker is full of people like you and you can't stand yourself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Take your meds. That conversation is about someone getting unnecessary angry about using proxies or a free trial, two things that NAI fanatics hate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not wrong at all anon. This is why I hate Ganker as a whole, whether its /aicg/, /img/, /sdg/ or dalle. They spend all their time showing off and never like to help anyone. The only time I ever got help was on /aids/ and /hdg/ back when NAI was first released. Call me a shill, but it's the truth. If anons weren't such buttholes NAI would be gone overnight.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Local text generation just seems like a huge ass mess to me. I thought shitmixes during the SD 1.5 local days were bad, but text models are a whole different kind of mess, which makes me agree with you that Ganker just fricking flat out sucks for getting any kind of information. The most helpful place for me, at least for image stuff, has been /hdg/ and even they have been utterly infected by schizos lately.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >has been /hdg/ and even they have been utterly infected by schizos lately
                This is exactly my point and my experience. I had first tried to setup local textgen, failed because there wasn't much explanation for local, so I did ST with gpt4.5 back in November. Just wanted to use SD to make a pic for my character card but I got no help from Ganker until someone on Ganker told me to try NAI. Went to /hdg/ and learned a bunch about NAI and local imagegen for several months and now I'm back to textgen to try local. What sucks is that these gatekeepers are only hiding how shit it is. I have a 4090 and after jumping through the hoops to set it up, it only revealed that local is complete garbage in comparison to gpt/claude regardless of their ministrations. I'm certain those 2x 4090 anons are also coping with their 70B models.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't gone yet because it's still a good joke in most generals about text generation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not wrong at all, actually an insanely good assessment anon.

                You're not wrong at all anon. This is why I hate Ganker as a whole, whether its /aicg/, /img/, /sdg/ or dalle. They spend all their time showing off and never like to help anyone. The only time I ever got help was on /aids/ and /hdg/ back when NAI was first released. Call me a shill, but it's the truth. If anons weren't such buttholes NAI would be gone overnight.

                Local text generation just seems like a huge ass mess to me. I thought shitmixes during the SD 1.5 local days were bad, but text models are a whole different kind of mess, which makes me agree with you that Ganker just fricking flat out sucks for getting any kind of information. The most helpful place for me, at least for image stuff, has been /hdg/ and even they have been utterly infected by schizos lately.

                It's really surprising to see people with zero talent figure out how to move a couple sliders/words around and pretend they're god's gift to mankind. AI users continue to be the most insufferable types for technology that should be for the people (you know until more companies get greedy and AI starts fricking with more job positions.)

                >has been /hdg/ and even they have been utterly infected by schizos lately
                This is exactly my point and my experience. I had first tried to setup local textgen, failed because there wasn't much explanation for local, so I did ST with gpt4.5 back in November. Just wanted to use SD to make a pic for my character card but I got no help from Ganker until someone on Ganker told me to try NAI. Went to /hdg/ and learned a bunch about NAI and local imagegen for several months and now I'm back to textgen to try local. What sucks is that these gatekeepers are only hiding how shit it is. I have a 4090 and after jumping through the hoops to set it up, it only revealed that local is complete garbage in comparison to gpt/claude regardless of their ministrations. I'm certain those 2x 4090 anons are also coping with their 70B models.

                I'm sorry you had to find out about local... it happens to us all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not wrong at all anon. This is why I hate Ganker as a whole, whether its /aicg/, /img/, /sdg/ or dalle. They spend all their time showing off and never like to help anyone. The only time I ever got help was on /aids/ and /hdg/ back when NAI was first released. Call me a shill, but it's the truth. If anons weren't such buttholes NAI would be gone overnight.

                >Not wrong at all, actually an insanely good assessment anon.
                But the anon was getting angry and dismissing this post?
                >You can keep an eye out for proxies on /aicg/ over at Ganker, they sometimes have Claude available.
                >Otherwise, there's Cohere's Command R+ which you can get at their site, which is also pretty good. You get 1000 free prompts every month with a normal account, but nothing is stopping you from just creating a new account in case you reach the limit.
                How is that a "good assessment"? His post is completely incoherent to that conversation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                Its not being stupid, its that most people dont have the time or energy to devote to setting something up to coom. Working full-time, managing your household, planning for the future, trying to maintain a social life etc all takes energy and if it looks like somrone will have to spend a lot of energy (brainpower) as an initial investment for a comparatively 'alright' reward, is it really moronic to decide not to?

                The deeper point you missed is that there is a bit of complexity in setting this up. When you express this truth, people laugh at you and complain about spoonfeeding then frick off. I had to read 3 different guides on both /aicg/ and /img/ just to setup local textgen, only to realize it was shit, and during the process I wrote my own how-to-do .txt file guide which is like 300 words long. It's as if people enjoy the obfuscation for something that actually is straightforward and jack themselves off whenever they see people struggling.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Putting the URL and an API Key (either from a proxy or a trial) is not really that complex compared to filling your billing details. The privacy and no money spent just trump the easy of use of something like OpenRouter.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What one person struggles with another finds self explanatory. Running a local ai as efficiently as possible is one thing, but just setting up really is as simple as installing and launching.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its not being stupid, its that most people dont have the time or energy to devote to setting something up to coom. Working full-time, managing your household, planning for the future, trying to maintain a social life etc all takes energy and if it looks like somrone will have to spend a lot of energy (brainpower) as an initial investment for a comparatively 'alright' reward, is it really moronic to decide not to?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >if it looks like somrone will have to spend a lot of energy (brainpower)
              It's not though which is why I explicitly said
              >smallest amount of effort and basic problem solving skills
              It's also like Anon said in

              i used to think i was moronic but then i saw how many people got filtered by setting up sillytavern
              now i still think i'm moronic but i also think most people are somehow more moronic than me

              I'm not particularly smart but it was still really easy to figure out how to set up a local ai, didn't take very long, and that was while working full-time.
              If anything, people would save time and energy if they were more motivated to do things for themselves and became more competent in doing so.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I told you anon

        Shut the frick up, these people don't deserve it. It's the same kind of homosexuals who still don't know how go bypass the panda.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, bummer. Thanks for help anyway.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop impersonating me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, you stop impersonating ME!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >proxies
        nta but what does a proxy mean in this context? someone who has a sub or api key for a paid model then hosts a server and sets up llm proxy software that they share access to for other people?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Basically, yeah.
          The proxy page tells you though whether the proxy owner is logging your prompts or not, so you don't really have to worry about privacy and stuff (but use a VPN anyways, just to be sure).

  119. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eating good with claude 3. You can get it totally uncensored for pretty cheap on AWS

  120. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does ai dungeon still allow mommies

  121. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can still make chatgpt write almost whatever degenerate shit you want.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not that you can't, it's that gpt has a huge positivity bias and so you can't make it villainous without constant prodding.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >without constant prodding
        You can bypass that most of the time, but it almost always add some cheesy optimistic paragraph at the end no matter how fricked up the scenario was.

  122. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GPT-4 through ChatGPT is amazing for coom, and the response limit encourages me to actually coom instead of gooning for literal hours. Plus it forces me to write longer, more elaborate prompts which result in better wank material anyway.

    Thanks to ChatGPT and Stable Diffusion I basically exclusively consume AI porn these days. Good human made porn is still better, but good human made porn is rare and exists in a sea of garbage.

    In a way, the hour or so of looking through garbage for the perfect new porn to finally crank it to has merely been replaced by an hour or so of gooning.

    War. War never changes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any tips from prompting good coom?

  123. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reading all this shit about needing 4000 series for local gen
    >tfw 3080 with 16gb ram

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2060 with 6gb vram
      It was over before it even began

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a 3060 with 12gb vram and I can run a finetuned llama-3 and coom buckets to it. It's not perfect, but it's good enough for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pretty sure you could run mythomax no problem. The speed won't be stellar but it'd be perfectly usable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but can a 3070 with 16gb ram run it as well? There isn't a world I can get a graphics card upgrade any time soon, I just got the 3070 this past holiday season. Graphics cards are moronicly expensive.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Easily, especially if you distribute the load between your GPU and RAM efficiently.
          https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/MythoMax-L2-13B-GGML
          It's not that hard to set up either. You download kobold ccp, download silly tavern, see how long it takes to generate an output and adjust accordingly. As you can see on the link, even the highest 13b mythomax stops at 16gb ram and that's assuming you're not distributing any load to your GPU. You should easily be able to run one of the slightly less taxing versions and 13b mythomax is pretty damn good for text generation even relative to 30b models.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks, I had Kobold and SillyTavern set up using 7b/8b models but wasn't sure if I could run 13b. Next upgrade is likely getting 24 gb ram, but I'm pretty sure NovelAI will update before then. Regardless, being able to run anything locally is a good fallback especially on tight months I can't blow 25$.

  124. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      she's just being tsundere

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Minutes later, she was with child
      AI get so fricking horny over the thought of not being horny, it's got pink elephant way worse than humans can

  125. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    opus is really not good enough to justify lurking /aicg/ all day in hopes that a proxy will open up

  126. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The beginning of Dragon was the peak of AI adventure/story writing. Nothing I've tried has it beat. From new NAI releases, to shitty free sites, to local brew and jailbreaks -- it has never been beat. It was the pinnacle. Unless you homosexuals know something I don't, everything else here is pure cope, and people talking about dragon being shit came in when they started limiting it's capabilities before the big CP Chad destruction.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nothing I've tried has it beat. From new NAI releases, to shitty free sites, to local brew and jailbreaks
      so you haven't tried claude opus

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA, but most way to use Claude is chat, and I find it to be a shitty format.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not chat, it follows instructions, and the prefill can be used as an auto-complete. You can put the entire story in a message and tell it to continue, and prefill it with the last few words to auto complete it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. But it's either expensive to use paid, and free is just sillytavern.
            The best you can do is go d instructions but it's a meh.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I refuse to believe you people at this point. Everything people say is great ends up being slightly passable for a night of use. Nothing has captivated me for months the same way. I'll give it a go, but if it's shite then you owe me something.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          trust me anon, i felt the same way, claude 2 and gpt-4 were fun to frick around with but ultimately too bland and predictable to hold my interest for long, but opus is special. it's creative enough that you barely even have to lead the story, you can just sit back and watch what it comes up with, and the prose is well-written even by human standards. it's also scarily horny and has an encyclopedic knowledge of every possible fetish - no matter how obscure your particular brand of degeneracy is, it'll spit out something that feels like it was written just for (You). it is literal fricking crack to the point where i've been using it 6 hours a day for the past 2 weeks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're getting my hopes up. After bed time I will have to explore it. I pray to whatever higher power there is that I can once again relive the true power of text generation.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              good luck anon, unfortunately you picked kind of a bad time, all the free public proxies got killed so your options are:
              >paypig with openrouter (official and won't rugpull but you have to pay by the token, adds up quick once you're addicted but cheap if you're just trying it out)
              >paypig an anon for access to one of the /aicg/ private proxies (unofficial, will either rugpull or get shut down by anthropic eventually, but it's a one-time purchase with unlimited tokens)
              >lurk /aicg/ until a new public proxy is up (there will be one eventually, but you have to look at /aicg/ every day which isn't worth it tbh)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >(there will be one eventually, but you have to look at /aicg/ every day which isn't worth it tbh)
                Agreed. At this point, all I do is check the archives once every couple days for interesting new cards or a public proxy. The filter is at least somewhat helpful, but it's still awful.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh god he's on Ganker now too?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Newer models are technically better, but AI Dungeon was such a schizo finetune at the time when LLM's were still new and fresh and exciting that it elevated the whole experience, especially with everyone talking about it online.
      It just isn't the same without everyone posting about Dendrin randomly stabbing them or the MiB turning up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's such a weird experience using the newest stuff and seeing how much "smarter" it is in terms of coherency, but feeling so sterile sometimes. Whether it was the godawful CYOA finetune or the push into Instruct-style stuff for Chat-GPT and onwards, it always felt like something was lost. I miss the AI just spitting out absolute creative nonsense that felt more like a schizo storyteller than a generic back and forth chat.

  127. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >amd card
    ist es over für mich

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It'll be a bit of a pain to get it to run but you're fine as long as you aren't using windows.

  128. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ai dungeon gets nuked because the coom was too good
    >Every single ai by mega corps does not coom and they are lobotomized to only see leftist points of view.
    That shit died in it's infancy

  129. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I been using novelai for my semi text adventure smut stories for a while now and thought it was pretty good, whats better? I know novelai has no censoring, I have a not super strong rig so I can't do local

  130. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want a local model that can tell me a decent story with persistent characters that can reasonably accomodate some degeneracy and provide something resembling competent storytelling, on the level of an average isekai LN.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      haven't paid attention to the latest local llm news recently but you probably could. like most things in life, it's a matter of money and effort. money to buy and build the appropriate custom ai rig with multiple 3090s, enterprise ai cards, or whatever. and then the time and effort to test various public models and software inference tools for your use case, plus custom writing your own shit as necessary. like you'll probably need some software layer that'll parse input and output from the model and appropriately insert and save world info and character info stuff from a db dynamically. it'll also need a way to compress and summarize this info, so it doesn't go over a limit. the llm itself could likely help with that. otherwise, whatever context window you're using isn't going to be enough and it'll forgot important history. maybe there are already open source tools out there that'll handle that for you. you can also rent a server first to test your software setup, so you know exactly the quality of writing you're going to get once you buy the actual hardware.

  131. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >monthly subscription
    No thanks im broke, im sure pretty much every ai service is like that anyway

  132. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >She is playing """AI""" games

  133. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    chatbots were fun. good memories of using them until i stopped

  134. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You homosexuals really had to invite more locusts to /aicg/.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes the thing preventing /aicg/ from turning into a barren shithole is more Ganker anons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We don't need more people. We already have newbies begging.

        /aicg/ was shit when i used it and i wont be surprised if its still shit

        No one ever quits /aicg/ homosexual. Go back to larping.

        >shit attracts flies

        >Open proxy
        >Locusts come in
        >They shit up the thread like whining autists

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They shit up the thread like whining autists
          No, because they would be busy cooming to chatbots.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No one ever quits
          meds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >whining autists
          You mean like you?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't get any worse than it already is. That Ganker thread is a fricking disaster.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You okay, anon? Somehow you talk far more worse than the average Gankergay.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The chatbot hobby would be better if that thread stopped existing. Proxy hosts have far too much power.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /aicg/ was shit when i used it and i wont be surprised if its still shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shit attracts flies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        too true

  135. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Using chat bots is like seeing a book being written in real time, not a very compiling or thought provoking book but just dumb fun and I love it.

  136. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it possible to hook SD forge instead of 1111 into SillyTavern?

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