Aliens

Why does the Aliens franchise routinely fail to produce great video games? Does anyone else here want good Aliens games? The last good one came out in 2010 AVP.

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    if you actually sit down and watch Aliens its an incredibly boring and dull film and "fighting the Aliens" is maybe 2% of the runtime. And the sentry guns scenes were only part of the directors cut, not the release version.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Okay but this is about the games. The content lore for this franchise is incredible as far great game potential yet we don't get them.

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    just mod amnesia to have alien assets. There, the perfect amnesia game

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    actually the last good one was alien isolation
    avp 2010 was a solid ok game but the alien and pred campaigns were like half the length of the marine one

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      As a kid I loved playing as the predator and xenomorph. As an edgy teen, I replayed the game and enjoyed the marine campaign the most. As a 22 year old, I realized that my kid-self was right all along.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        in AvP 2010 the pred campaign is like the only actual good one, the other two are mediocre af

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          For me the Predator is obviously the weakest. The Pred controls are so fucking janky. Alien is okay, and the marine feels most polished.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Mind you, I'm viewing this game through the rosy lens of nostalgia. The predator campaign scared me the most as a kid, and I loved playing as them. The xenomorphs were really fun to play around with. The marine campaign is basically COD but more boring and somehow less fun. I would like to note that I recently played AVP Classic... and holy shit! One of the best games I have ever played. Minus the marine campaign. I guess I'm just tired of shooters as their markets are too oversaturated.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            man I love the marine campaign in classic, it's spooky as shit and I like how you die extremely fast. I love all the campaigns in that one though. the Alien's I found really hard as a kid because it was disorienting and difficult to figure out where to go. I think overall the Alien campaign was way better in 2. In fact I think pretty much everything was way better in 2.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Too bad AVP 2 is now abandonware. Had to go through some sketch shit just to get it running properly on my pc.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                dunno if you'd want it or not but here
                https://avpunknown.com/avp2aio/
                that site has all-in-one iso and exe versions of everything involving that game including the fixes.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I heard that this website was sketchy or something. Got too scared to download stuff from it. Instead, I got the game from a random torrenting site, and downloaded the patch somewhere else. It's all good now, thanks anyways.

                Really? I played it a few months ago on my Windows 10 system without having to do anything.

                Recently I upgraded my hardware, so it might have fucked with some settings here and there.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Really? I played it a few months ago on my Windows 10 system without having to do anything.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                AvP2 seems to give some people a ton of trouble and others not. I had no issues outside of having to install some fixes to get widescreen to work properly but I hear very often that people have to jump through flaming hoops in order to get it to work. GOG really needs to put out a new version. Shame it will probably never happen now that the mouse owns the property.

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly think this franchise is just damaged goods at this point. Even if it finally started to pump out good games its been a shitty franchise for so long that it will go unnoticed.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The Alien franchise lost me when Covenant retconned the Aliens into being (in a way) human creations.
      Alien and Aliens will always be some of my favorite movies ever, and that's all what I'll acknowledge about the franchise.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It seems like sci-fi continuously does this. They don't want their cool monsters to be anything other than scientific creations made by humans or some other species. Shit is ridiculous.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's because the artsy types who manage sci-fi properties are extroverts who exclusively care about human relationships. The only way a story prominently featuring a sci-fi monster can have any emotional impact to them is if the monster is closely tied to humanity somehow, especially the onscreen human characters. This is also why they don't care about internal consistency and freely retcon important details whenever they feel like it; the only thing that matters to them is how the characters feel about each other.

          Anyway AvP 1 and 2 were great games, we just need something like those again. It should be simple enough, the first game didn't even have a story.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >who exclusively care about human relationships
            This is exactly what The Thing was built around and it was good, though.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The problem isn't human relationships being central to the story, the problem is normie writers who don't grok sci-fi getting confused and trying to connect the monster to the human relationships in inappropriate ways. See Alien Resurrection for an entire movie built around this error.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's because the artsy types who manage sci-fi properties are extroverts who exclusively care about human relationships. The only way a story prominently featuring a sci-fi monster can have any emotional impact to them is if the monster is closely tied to humanity somehow, especially the onscreen human characters. This is also why they don't care about internal consistency and freely retcon important details whenever they feel like it; the only thing that matters to them is how the characters feel about each other.

                Anyway AvP 1 and 2 were great games, we just need something like those again. It should be simple enough, the first game didn't even have a story.

                I have to disagree, and I wish the answer was as complex as this.
                Simply suits and audiences started believing that good writing = complexity for the sake of it and good writing = grey motives all around. So we can't have the aliens being just dangerous animals from outer space but they had to be directly related to humans through a convoluted chain of events because being "just animals" or "just alien bioweapons" is too simplistic for vocal morons who act like they're intellectuals and experts on narrative because they read tvtropes.
                I remember reading somewhere that System Shock 3, had not became vaporware, would reveal "SHODAN's true motives". Again, having a megalomaniac AI (which ironically had a lot of human flaws, something she never realized) with a God complex wasn't enough, gonna give her complex (heh) motivations and probably paint her as good all along because "much convoluted writing".
                Isn't World of Warcraft narrative like that too? Like, every villain is just secretly a good guy trying to protect the world... of Warcraft from a bigger evil?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I noticed this trend too after going back and watching a bunch of old ass 80s and 90s movies and then watching more recent ones
                it feels like lot of recent shit is really more intellectual just for the sake of being intellectual and it doesn't necessarily make the movies better, it just makes movies more tedious and contrived

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Watchmen's Ozymandias was both a blessing and a curse for villain writing.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Such a good fucking comic. I recently re-read it and noticed quite a lot of shit that I missed before. Would have to agree with Ozymandias here (SPOILERS):

                Bringing a lovecraftian, non-euclidean octopus into being and teleporting him to a populated city to end the cold war between the USSR and USA is a based decision. Too bad one shizo's writings would spell the end for him.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Sad but you seem to be dead on here.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >the first game didn't even have a story.
            It didn't? I distinctly remember some bong with a red beret dissing on the pillock playing as the PC through some really pixelated in game monitors.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It went to hell when Fox fired David Fincher. As much as I love how fucking weird Jean-Pierre Jeunet's entry was, it sucked as well.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Which still doesn't make sense because of the Pilot mural in Prometheus that showed ALIENS.
        Onto game topic: One of the issues is that they always want to be beholden to the movies instead of the very rich expanded universe, or unique settings, that's why all the Alien vs Predator games are good to great, because they don't have anything to work off of (discounting anything related to the two shitty movies).

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't watch Prometeus.
          It's the only Alien movie I've never watched because I'm aware that it doesn't feature the aliens beyond a post-credits scene and 2 hours of humans acting like retards without the aliens killing them sounds boring.
          Hell, I've watched both AvP movies.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            It wasn't even an actual Xenomorph in the post credit scene, it only marginally looked like one. It was pretty shit movie. It really was two hours of humans acting like morons.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I still can't believe that in-universe the colony seeding vessel' creew in Covenant went onto a completely uncharted planet with zero protection gear or caution and the writers had the audacity to think us viewers would somehow sympathize with a bunch of monogoloids who sealed their fate the moment they landed on the planet and treated the whole thing as a joke.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >"According to our sensors there isn't a single living being on this planet even when it has a proper atmosphere and forest. Eh, it must be nothing and the place is totally safe".

          To be fair as soon as Aliens they were relying on human stupidity to get the plot rolling.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            *soon
            As early early as Aliens.

            I need to work on my English.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, but the plot related stupidity of humans in Covernant reached parody level.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think it's such a bad idea and I like David, but it was somehow so poorly executed and I could barely see shit in Covenant.

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Isolation was literally perfect for an ALIEN game
    ALIENS was an action flick, nothing more.
    A good movie, but a bad ALIEN movie.

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because its an aging franchise, the time to strike whilst the iron was hot was two decades ago, there is zero creativity with it other than the thing everyone knows and not many companies have the budget or the stones to actually follow through on a half decent bug hunt.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Alien Isolation at least had great graphicis. I think a good Aliens game needs amazing graphics and great gunplay. The aliens need to also be tougher. They were too weak in Fireteam Elite. Should be FPS with mostly drone Xeno's that are spooky. Probably should be action survival horror tbqh with co-op and multiplayer.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        So make a co-op shooter more like GTFO than L4D, ie more of a focus on difficulty and having complete awareness to not get turbofucked, rather than having it be a run and gun?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe something like the toughness of the zombies from RE2 as well as Mr X. The Xeno's should be threatening enough. Elite was basically just hordes of the dog variant that doesn't take much shots to kill. So definitely less Xeno's than Elite and L4D. Also make them more intelligent.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You lose atmosphere and tension with multiplayer

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >The last good one came out in 2010 AVP
    AVP 2010 was middling at best. It's nowhere near as good as the AvP1 or AvP2.

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I really like firetime elite, i feel like its kino playing through it co-op a couple of times, they should have shipped it with a timesplitters like level editor though, based on pre defined blocks or something so you could make your own levels and place the spawn points in them, would have gave it way better legs and longevity, because without them shipping new chapters/levels every couple of months its not going to last long.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It is okay but its lack of budget shows

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Checked
      It's funny you mention that because earlier plans for the game were to have most of it be procedurally generated levels using those preset blocks.
      I never saw it working though, the version I saw didn't even have a smartgun implemented yet.

      The disney buying fox and then selling game studios shortly afterwards (because disney doesn't want game studios for some reason) really boned cold iron's plans.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    fireteam elite is honestly pretty alright. nothing special, but I played it for a few weeks with my two buddies and we had a good time. easily would recommend on a sale.

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    god i fucking hate the console morons. the sheer amount of lag/rubberbanding and that the contribute absolutely fucking nothing.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >auto-aim gun
      >makes fun of console players
      lmao

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is fireteam elite for someone who justs want to play alone?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      its a co-op shooter

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They said the same thing about DRG and I found it to be fine when played alone

        if you play solo you get a pair of bots. they're kinda shit and not recommended for hard mode. there's some modded ones out there that are good, but you can't do public matches with them.

        honestly i like the game, but the crossplay lag, no comms of any kind and an abundance of cosmetic DLC over actual missions really hurts it.

        Thanks anon, do you have an recs in regards to those mods?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2602346800

          i tested with a hard mission, the bots done all the work for me, was piss easy. tried very hard and it was still doable. got wrecked on insane though.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Many thanks anon

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      if you play solo you get a pair of bots. they're kinda shit and not recommended for hard mode. there's some modded ones out there that are good, but you can't do public matches with them.

      honestly i like the game, but the crossplay lag, no comms of any kind and an abundance of cosmetic DLC over actual missions really hurts it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I mean you can but it's definitely a game meant more for playing with a few buddies.

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Alien isolation dumb moron

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    isolation was shit and the stupid alien "director" was even worse sneaking around games are gay

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I like how in the marines manual the smart gunner lies on their back to fire prone, which is similar to some rifle shooting positions irl

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why would someone pick up a co-op game to play it solo.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      anon just wants to shoot some aliens but doesn't want to socialize.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        you can't even socialist in the game. there's not even text chat.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          okay
          anon just wants to shoot some aliens but doesn't want to interact with people then

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Wait
          What
          Are you kidding me?
          On co-op games there are things that you need to type about because the game's ping system isn't enough to convey what you want to say. What kind of co-op game doesn't have a text chat?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            people have been begging for it since day 1. it's fucking retarded to not at least have text chat.

            the defenders will just say 'just join the discord' but i don't want to join a public discord.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The only time I joined a Discord server was the only time I played a co-op game without randos, instead joining an organized team.
              It was easily the most miserable experience I've had with co-op games so never did it again.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's why edf has the right formula.
                Join randos and spam chat wheel stuff and those fuckers always join in.
                Alien universe has more than enough quotable shit to get some flavour chatter in between crying for a res or ammo.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        okay
        anon just wants to shoot some aliens but doesn't want to interact with people then

        I'm sure there are tons of games like that, with proper maps and campaigns. He doesn't need to bother with a game not designed as a singleplayer experience.

        A lot of these co-op shooters are very well made fun games. Sometimes you just can't get the same feeling in any other game so the co-op shooter has to be it. This is why these kind of games need to support the loner introvert types by making sure allies can be bots with competent enough AI.

        Co-op games only shine when you play with people; with bots is a dull experience.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Co-op games only shine when you play with people; with bots is a dull experience.
          I completely disagree

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Because you've never played those games with people so you're used to the bot experience.
            Bosco is competent but it simply doesn't compare to having an actual team of Dwarves playing well and succeeding or playing like shit and making you laugh at how hard they fucked up.

            I'm not even a normie; I'm old enough to be your father and I've never had a girlfriend (I use prostitutes instead) and my only friend left the country years ago so I've been friendless for half a decade.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I've played co-op games with others. Nobody plays these games forever though. Also once a game is old and abandoned then what do you do if you never played it but it interests you? Why don't you just simply agree that these games should make sure to have competent AI? Its not hard. I don't even disagree with you entirely.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody plays these games forever though.
                Some people do if the game is good.
                To be fair it's not like you keep playing the same single-player games forever. You eventually move to other games too.

                >Also once a game is old and abandoned then what do you do if you never played it but it interests you?
                An old game that is extraordinarily good will sustain a population of players, no matter how old it is; just look at Left 4 Dead or Killing Floor. If a co-op game is a complete ghost town, it means that it wasn't a particularly good game in the first place.

                >Why don't you just simply agree that these games should make sure to have competent AI?
                Because I would rather have the developers use those resources to improve the overall experience.
                Co-op solo players are no different from people forcing multiplayer into single-player games.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Because I would rather have the developers use those resources to improve the overall experience.
                Literally telling us itt that you think good AI isn't important for a video game. You're done.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Twisting my words when I'm clearly talking about improved bot AI, which is worthless for a co-op game.
                What a dishonest individual you are; no wonder you play co-op games solo: you're unfit to interact with other human beings.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of these co-op shooters are very well made fun games. Sometimes you just can't get the same feeling in any other game so the co-op shooter has to be it. This is why these kind of games need to support the loner introvert types by making sure allies can be bots with competent enough AI.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous
      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Wow

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      If I have hot, steamy sex with her and she turns preggo and lays a dozen eggs, then the facehuggers will hatch right? So far so good. What if I get impregnated by one of those fuckers? Did I also give birth to my bastard child? Or am I just paying child support with my nutritious viscera?

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    AVP 2000 was decent
    AVP2 was kino and the peak
    AVP 2010 was good
    Aliens Colonial Marines was god awful

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    AvP2 was so fucking good. I might have to reinstall it here soon.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      What sort of legal bullshit is preventing this from getting rereleased?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        probably nothing, it just seems to be somewhat forgotten for some reason. when you bring up AvP everyone immediately just thinks of the 99 game. awesome game though, I used to replay it constantly when I was in high school. I thought how you started as a facehugger and then a chestburster before becoming the drone was the coolest shit back then.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao no. It is the most fondly remembered entry of the entire series. Both for its single as well as multiplayer. It would be on Steam/GoG as soon as AvP1 popped up on one of them.

          As always, it is some IP conflict again where old companies were closed down and the rights to certain properties scattered to the winds in whatever auction buy ups. System Shock 2 was stranded in limbo for a REALLY long time because of this.

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Fireteam Elite and Isolation are both objectively better than 2010 AvP, you fucking retard.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      dude on the right looks like a fucking mass effect character or something
      way out of place

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Fireteam Elite and Isolation are both objectively better than 2010 AvP, you fucking retard.
      No

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    AvP 2010 wasn't good, it was "serviceable".

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    post yfw

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    i remember this piece of shit was shilled on Ganker, like it is another masterpiece as Alien Isolation.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think I've ever seen anyone call it a masterpiece. it's a solid 7/10 co-op shooter though.

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >2010 AVP
    >good
    You never played that shit heap

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Are they even doing anything Alien-related beyond the upcoming videogames? Any new movies?

    I thought Isolation was just okay; I've never been a fan of "hide until the monster go away" games, but some scripted sequences were great.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      there's a TV show coming out but they're leaning heavy into the whole weyland-yutani is white people angle apparently.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds awful.
        Why everything monster-related has to be politics and human drama now? Reminds me of The Walking Dead and most modern Zombie fiction
        >Zombies? what's it? We're too busy dealing with douche humans

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          well to be fair, there was always a political element like that in the series where the huge all powerful corporation shits on the little people in the name of "progress", but I see them dumbing it down and just making it wypipo bad because that's how a modern TV/movie writer do.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I hate garden gnomes so much.

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I thought fireteam was a ton of fun. Just way too few levels

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      we're getting 4 more at the end of the month. DLC of course.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      it's at least getting a bunch of free content updates at some point in the future, right?

  26. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Fireteam Elite felt like a scam honestly. Extremely repetitive, no content, half of the base game is against robots or white spiders, 99% of the customization is just weapon colors and copy pasted caps.
    They made new original xenomorphs and they all suck and scream "generic coop shooter enemy", matchmaking is awful, all NPCs are mexican women or so.
    It reminds me of all these 6/10 WH40K games, but worse. As flawed as Space Hulk Deathwing was, it felt like a better Aliens game than Fireteam Elite, despite not being about the Alien franchise. Sad.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yep this is exactly the problem here. Aliens deserves better than this.

  27. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >and please
    >call me Cynthia

  28. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    KNEEL

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Pure kino

  29. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Fireteam should've went more into the 80s aesthetic. You unlock a bunch of COD cosmetics and weapon skins and there's chud half-cuts instead of mullets and pornstaches and stuff. It's about all I want from a game with Aliens' Space Marines, though. I'd like an RPG, too, something like Mass Effect.

  30. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    the first avp game is so old now that they should just remake it and be done with it and finally give us the avp game we deserve.

  31. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because "Alien" as a franchise is super mega hyper popular and normiecore. It's a fucking cornerstone of pretty much the entire western popular culture. Everybody knows it, everybody knows that they're supposed to love it or risk losing their street cred. People will buy anything related to it, so companies know that their products don't NEED to be good, so they repeatedly half-ass them.

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