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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DMC5 has pointless MTX and cut content later sold as DLC
    >hailed as the second coming of christ
    >DD2 has pointless MTX and cut content later sold as DLC
    >dogpiled by the media and e-celebs alike
    ???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I don't get it, either. Like I don't want to tell people not to b***h about MTX, but it's weird how DD2 gets singled out for a practice that has, unfortunately, become industry standard.

      Itsuno is totally working on DMC6 now that DD2's done, right?... right?

      Wasn't he planning on retiring after DD2?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers first action game (BING BING WAHOO QUIRKY PIZZA MAN)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Standars for a good game are this low, we hit rock bottom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DMC5 is a fun game
      >DD2 is not
      It's THAT simple.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dmc 5 was fun but it just wasnt as good as 3 (but better then 4)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DMC5 was great and was supremely a complete experience. The amount of care put into it was above and beyond. The only shitty party is arguably V.

      On the flipside DD2 feels like its missing something. It has a strong core but just abruptly ends as things start going.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >twitter likes for gold orbs
        >online co-op is a busted joke
        >mission 2 is clearly the level with the most work, done in it in terms of environmental diversityotherwise enjoy recycled tree environments.
        >V is Vergil's Nobody
        >You could remove Lady and Trish and nothing would change and they look ugly as shit in DMC5 so it would be in fact better if they hadn't appeared at all.
        >Boss dialog is weak, especially that atrocious Nidhogg exchange with V
        >Characters quip into space during levels like my heckin marvel movies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Goliath shouting in pain when you kick him in the balls and being incredulous that Nero can kick his ass
          >V citing actual romantic poetry to talk shit
          >Nero getting hopeful he can finally get through Urizen's shield only to then get BTFO when he just stands up
          >Dante completely ignoring Cavaliere because he knows Trish is inside
          >King Cerberus talking shit about past demons of the respective element it's currently using
          >Urizen being completely incapable of understanding why Dante is much stronger than him because he doesn't have a heart anymore
          >Dante reminiscing on the events of DMC1 and paying his respects to Griffon, Shadow and Nightmare for fighting him when they knew they had no chance
          >Nero verbally beating the frick out of Vergil while also doing it physically
          And you know what the best part about all this stuff is? It all happens in-game, when literally none of the main games before had in-game dialogue at ALL.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

            being completely incapable of understanding why Dante is much stronger than him because he doesn't have a heart anymore

            Even for shonen shit that's lame as frick I can't think you would think this is an actual plus in terms of writing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think you like DMC, Anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like DMC1 although it has definitely shown its age, DMC3 and some of DMC4.

                A lot of what I don't like about DMC4 is shared with DMC5, in that neither felt as polished in terms of scope as DMC3/SE did. DMC4 and 5 both attempted to broaden its scope in terms of environment, gameplay (adding new characters) and story significantly and tripped up because of it, so you get stuff like what I listed

                >twitter likes for gold orbs
                >online co-op is a busted joke
                >mission 2 is clearly the level with the most work, done in it in terms of environmental diversityotherwise enjoy recycled tree environments.
                >V is Vergil's Nobody
                >You could remove Lady and Trish and nothing would change and they look ugly as shit in DMC5 so it would be in fact better if they hadn't appeared at all.
                >Boss dialog is weak, especially that atrocious Nidhogg exchange with V
                >Characters quip into space during levels like my heckin marvel movies

                as a result. It's clear that some love was put in DMC5 but its clear that Itsuno lacked the restraint needed to produce a polished product.

                For instance, with the characters, Dante had 5 games to be iterated upon to reach the level of depth he had in that game, Vergil 3 games, Nero 2 games and V of course only one game and it shows. Rather than introduce yet another new character it would have been better to focus on Nero more, especially since the narrative focused on him quite a bit more than Dante or V.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You couldn't further away from the truth. DMC5 is the most polished game in the series in narrative terms, on top of being extremely restrained.

                If DMC5 hadn't been restrained you would've gotten a two bit story where Vergil just sorts of comes back and nothing is made out of it and maybe a new super powerful boss shows up because the devs can't really be bothered to do anything with their characters. Instead of that, you have a story that is entirely dedicated to explain how and why, down to creating world building for it, utilizing dozens of parallels, motifs and callbacks to all the games, and filling the gaps DMC4 left and issuing a retort to DMC3's ending.

                When I said you didn't seem to like DMC it was because you were complaining about what's one of the most important lines in the game, which is entirely about what the whole series is about. The exact same kinds of lines exist in DMC1 and DMC3 for that matter, in similar moments as well.

                You want to talk about the characters? Would you mind telling me what Trish does for most of DMC1? Or what Dante does for all of Nero's levels in DMC4? Or what Vergil does for most of DMC3 or what effect Lady has in the game if you skip the cutscenes? I'll answer for you: They do practically nothing, as opposed to the characters in DMC5 which are basically always accounted for both in the plot and in the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and by the characters in DMC5, I mean Nero, Dante and V. Nico's always there too, but yes, Lady and Trish have more minor roles, since they're only tangential to the story. Even though they're still in the game since they're parts of the bosses and they give Dante their weapons. Hell they're even around as npcs in Mission 10 and in the menu screens.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and by the characters in DMC5, I mean Nero, Dante and V. Nico's always there too, but yes, Lady and Trish have more minor roles, since they're only tangential to the story. Even though they're still in the game since they're parts of the bosses and they give Dante their weapons. Hell they're even around as NPCs in Mission 10 and in the menu screens.

                You can't reason with these people anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>If DMC5 hadn't been restrained you would've gotten a two bit story where Vergil just sorts of comes back and nothing is made out of it

                That's basically DMC5. Vergil comes back, then Nero has his very rushed catharsis with him and then Dante and Vergil frick off to hell. Lady, Trish, Nico, Kyrie are bit parts except for Kyrie's speech at the end that boosts Nero's morale.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >DMC5 is the most polished game in the series in narrative terms, on top of being extremely restrained.
                NTA, but that's DMC3 is by far, and it's not even close. There's no character wasted in that narrative, as opposed to Trish, Lady and fricking Kyrie who doesn't even show up in the game at all. It's like Capcom was just trying to look for reasons to hamfist those characters because DMC5 is supposed to be epic for epicness's sake, while Nico was somehow more of a character than all three of those combined. The whole thing surrounding V was just pure nonsense. I hate these kinds of convoluted tropes as much as alternate universes and time travel, especially considering that this alter ego shit isn't really a thing in DMC's universe (unless you count Arkham, maybe?). It's even worse when V sounds, looks and acts nothing like Vergil. That felt like a random ass pull for the sake of an epic twist later on.

                >what effect Lady has in the game if you skip the cutscenes?
                This is such an utterly moronic point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was really hoping that V was Mundus and we would have a mexican standoff with Vergil, Nero, Dante and V going after the fruit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's like Capcom was just trying to look for reasons to hamfist those characters
                How do you hamfist already existing characters? DMC3 doesn't have any "wasted" characters because it's a prequel to DMC1 so nobody but whoever is absolutely required shows up. And even then, it's not like the characters are deeply fleshed out or anything. Vergil is primarily a foil to Dante and doesn't get to develop at all. Lady and Vergil basically don't interact with each other and that's also true of Dante and Arkham outside of his time as Jester. Lady exists so Dante can grow up and that's pretty much it.

                Don't get me wrong, DMC3's story is good. The characters serve their role and the performances are stellar. But it's not the deepest thing ever. The conflict itself is very, very straightforward. It's a good story because it's written and played in earnest. Which is precisely why your comment about the Urizen line is plain stupid.

                >especially considering that this alter ego shit isn't really a thing in DMC
                Nelo Angelo's introduction is literally him coming out of Dante's reflection in a mirror. Dante and Vergil standing for two separate natures which they both share has always been a thing.

                Yamato being able to split Vergil is just an extension of what it already had done before in previous games. Why would it not be able to split one person when it literally split reality before?

                >This is such an utterly moronic point.
                Why? It's a videogame. A character being relevant only in cutscenes, which you have no way to interact with at all, is a valid complaint. Specially when Lady became playable later and is constantly doing sick shit in DMC3's cutscenes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's a prequel to DMC1 so nobody but whoever is absolutely required shows up
                Oh and for that matter, we can leverage the "hamfist" complaint towards DMC3 too since it was very explicitly retconning DMC1's story. Vergil was supposed to have being kidnapped by Mundus before DMC3. Lady and Arkham didn't exist, and Rebellion, which is directly tied to Dante getting his DT, was a DMC2 retcon. The DT scene itself is based on DMC1 novel scene where Gilver stabs Dante with Force Edge.

                Obviously I'm not serious with any of these criticisms, but it's a fact DMC3 retconned the story, just because it was easier to do so. Well, at least until DMC5 re-retconned everything so the DMC1 novel stuff was canon again, just slightly different.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How do you hamfist already existing characters?
                Your logic is bizarre. You're doing all these weird mental gymnastics to deflect from the criticism that many of these characters barely even serve a purpose.
                >Lady and Vergil basically don't interact with each other and that's also true of Dante and Arkham
                So? Are you saying good writing requires every character to interact with each other? Not only that's an arbitrary criteria you just made up, but your own criticism also applies to DMC5. In fact, nearly everything bad you said about other games also applies to DMC5.
                >Lady exists so Dante can grow up and that's pretty much it.
                And the only reason Kyrie exists in DMC5 is to give a single line on the fricking phone to motivate Nero near the very end. Also, did you miss Lady's whole conflict with her father in DMC3?
                >But it's not the deepest thing ever.
                I did not say that it was, and DMC5 most certainly fits that category as well, while having more bloat to deal with. This is one of the reasons why DMC3 is better. It IS straightforward, and it does what it sets out nearly perfectly and very effectively, about as good as what you can expect from a relatively short story in an action game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You're doing all these weird mental gymnastics to deflect from the criticism that many of these characters barely even serve a purpose.
                No, I'm saying it's a stupid criticism about a game that's meant to be a complete sequel versus a game that's a prequel that did away with whatever it didn't need. Trish and Lady don't need to fulfill any major roles in the story, they're there because it's DMC, and they're established characters. Sure, they could do more with them, but the game already has enough going as is.

                Again, you were talking about restraint. If the game weren't restrained, they would have bigger roles in the story even though they didn't need to, like it happened with DMC4.

                >Are you saying good writing requires every character to interact with each other?
                What I'm saying is that the characters primarily exist to serve in Dante's coming of age, even if it's sometimes to their detriment as independent characters. It's fine for the purposes of DMC3, which is prequel, but I wouldn't say they're completely without "waste."

                >nearly everything bad you said about other games also applies to DMC5.
                Sure lol.

                >I did not say that it was
                So what's your problem with the line at the start of this conversation?

                >Like several characters in DMC5
                You mean minor characters. There's a difference. It's not like there's a bunch of cutscenes of Lady or Trish blowing shit up in DMC5 and then not being playable. They're down for most of the story and that's about it.

                >humanity being on the brink of destruction is utterly irrelevant to the gameplay too
                Not really. You're constantly dealing with the after effects of the tree's destruction. Basically all the environmental interaction is through the tree and often related to human blood.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Again, you were talking about restraint.
                That's exactly my issue with DMC5. It doesn't know restraint. That's why at least three characters (not even counting Morris, by the way. Would you remember that he exists in DMC5 if I didn't mention it?) are almost completely useless.

                >So what's your problem with the line at the start of this conversation?
                What are you going about now? I never said DMC3 had the "deepest story ever" like you seemed to imply that I said, and that's the end of it. I'm only comparing it to other games in the series.

                >You mean minor characters. There's a difference.
                Oh yeah, sure, just call them "minor characters". Problem solved.

                >Not really. You're constantly dealing with the after effects of the tree's destruction. Basically all the environmental interaction is through the tree and often related to human blood.
                Okay? Then everything that happens in other games is purposeful too because they're just an effect of what came before, no matter how shallow. You're tying to play some pedantic game but you don't seem to realize it can go both ways.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's why at least three characters are almost completely useless.
                See

                Oh and just to clarify. Yes, I am making a pretty big distinction between major and minor characters here.

                I'm not criticizing DMC3 because I want to know about A&R more. That'd be silly. We're strictly talking about Lady, Vergil, Arkham and Dante. My point is that most of the major characters exist to further Dante's development along. Which is, again, fine for what DMC3 is.

                But that's totally different from DMC5 where Nero, Dante and Vergil have basically the same footing, while Lady and Trish don't.

                >What are you going about now?
                See

                [...] being completely incapable of understanding why Dante is much stronger than him because he doesn't have a heart anymore

                Even for shonen shit that's lame as frick I can't think you would think this is an actual plus in terms of writing.

                >Oh yeah, sure, just call them "minor characters". Problem solved.
                Yes. This might be crazy to you but a character doesn't need to play the same role in every story they're in.

                >Then everything that happens in other games is purposeful too because they're just an effect of what came before, no matter how shallow.
                What are you even talking about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just imagine i put all my replies here
                i win

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes. This might be crazy to you but a character doesn't need to play the same role in every story they're in.
                Or have any sort of impact in the plot whatsoever and characters around them, or have any sort of growth. Or hell, they don't even need to show up at all, such is the case with Kyrie. Thank god for payphones, because if those didn't exist, DMC5's narrative would fall in shambles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and just to clarify. Yes, I am making a pretty big distinction between major and minor characters here.

                I'm not criticizing DMC3 because I want to know about A&R more. That'd be silly. We're strictly talking about Lady, Vergil, Arkham and Dante. My point is that most of the major characters exist to further Dante's development along. Which is, again, fine for what DMC3 is.

                But that's totally different from DMC5 where Nero, Dante and Vergil have basically the same footing, while Lady and Trish don't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and,
                >Why? It's a videogame. A character being relevant only in cutscenes, which you have no way to interact with at all
                Like several characters in DMC5... Gotcha. Also, Dante gets the Kalinna Ann from Lady. So your point isn't even correct.
                >is a valid complaint
                It's not a valid complaint. The story is part of the whole package and serves as impetus to progress through the game. How can you even say that cutscenes don't matter while attempting to defend DMC5's plot this hard? If you skip DMC5's cutscenes, humanity being on the brink of destruction is utterly irrelevant to the gameplay too. This is a strange hill you're choosing to die on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>How do you hamfist already existing characters? DMC3 doesn't have any "wasted" characters because it's a prequel to DMC1 so nobody but whoever is absolutely required shows up

                What kind of fricked up reasoning is that, neither Arkham or Lady are mentioned in DMC1

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nelo Angelo's introduction is literally him coming out of Dante's reflection in a mirror. Dante and Vergil standing for two separate natures which they both share has always been a thing.
                That's... completely different from the way V exists, anon. Dante and Vergil are established as two seperate spawns of Sparda. V is quite literally a second personality come to life (and a poorly developed one at that, because most of his mannerisms and looks seemed to come out from nowhere).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's... completely different from the way V exists, anon.
                Did you not read the next sentence where I said Yamato being able to do what it was a thing way before DMC5?

                Regardless, V is just the part of Vergil's personality he didn't like because they were too "human." It's the exact same idea as always. Neither the mechanism by which he was separated nor why for narrative purposes are new.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Did you not read the next sentence where I said Yamato being able to do what it was a thing way before DMC5?
                Make alter egos come to life? I don't think so.
                >Regardless, V is just the part of Vergil's personality he didn't like because they were too "human."
                Let's back up a little. Since when does Vergil even have an alter ego? What explains V's looks, the tattoos, his lanky frame with black hair and a huge nose? Why does he read poetry, why can he summon monsters? Where the frick do ANY of these things come from?

                The other problem is, since this plot device is now introduced to DMC's universe and it came essentially of nowhere, there's no reason not to apply it to other characters too, because we ALL have sides of ourselves that we don't like. So what do Dante's or Nero's alter egos look and sound like? Why shouldn't Capcom just keep pulling out random personalties that were barely hinted at before for hell of it? This is a similar issue that plagues FF7 Remake; shit that was never intended to exist now became a huge central plot point in the narrative and turn it on its head.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What explains
                It's fricking magic.

                This franchise runs on demons and feelings, dude.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and by the characters in DMC5, I mean Nero, Dante and V. Nico's always there too, but yes, Lady and Trish have more minor roles, since they're only tangential to the story. Even though they're still in the game since they're parts of the bosses and they give Dante their weapons. Hell they're even around as NPCs in Mission 10 and in the menu screens.

                Why does this read like seethe from someone that cant accept that the game they like is flawed?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you associate being articulate with being defensive? I dunno.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him, buy you're not being articulate. You're excusing convoluted nonsense by conflating different shit because two concepts sound somewhat the same, and that makes for dogshit writing. You probably rationalize V's abilities to summon monsters as a reflection of Vergil ability to summon swords. It's a flimsy association at best and almost all of your defence of DMC5's narrative hinges upon that one trick.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nico giving you shit if you get hit by Qlipthoth Roots in M01
            >Nero using the Rawhide on Malphus prompting the "lets go for a walk little chicky" line

            5 was soul overload.

            someone get this idea to Matt, he's based enough to at least run it by them
            the protomen getting on an official game OST is a long-time coming too

            Matt isn't at Capcom anymore and hasn't been since a little after 5's launch.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Nero using the Rawhide on Malphus prompting the "lets go for a walk little chicky" line
              He actually starts talking about BDSM which is often cut because the boss gets easily staggered. She also talks about him not being strong to take on Urizen if you let her go around.

              And there's a dialog if you manage to hit her with Punch Line just right that it will actually launch her.
              >Unfathomable!
              >Oh you're about to fricking fathom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have a clip of the fathom line? Never heard of that until now. I've had the Urizen line I think but not the BDSM either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can find it on youtube if you look for the word and the boss's name.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Found it. Very cool line and mechanic. I love Nero.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Give 'em a little taste of THE GOOD SHIT

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Matt isn't at Capcom anymore and hasn't been since a little after 5's launch.
              WHY? that must be why DD2 turned out the way it did

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Matt didn't do shit you realize that right? He was just the hype man

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thats exactly what Itsuno needed
                a homie to have his back

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >missions are fine
          >V is fine
          >lady and trish look fine
          >boss dialog is fine
          >actually complaining about quips in fricking DMC

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >missions are fine
            no. It's not as bad as DMC4 but theres a lot of recycled content. DMC3 can get away due to being set exploring a tower but each new area was distinct.

            >V is fine
            No

            >lady and trish look fine
            Hell no

            >boss dialog is fine
            Nidhogg, I need not say more

            >actually complaining about quips in fricking DMC
            Quips can be fine but are poorly implimented during ingame sequences

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The only shitty party is arguably V.
        It's not even shitty, just undercooked. Which is fine considering that you only get to play as V for like 3 missions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DMC5 was good so marketers didnt need to hide its issues by spamming fake outrage over its irrelevant MTX like they did with DD2

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1 came out after mh world and re2 remake, which were good and ran well
      >1 came out after garbage like SF6, RE8 and RE4R and Itsunos DMC5

      Itsuno is totally working on DMC6 now that DD2's done, right?... right?

      the game sold too poorly and had a mixed reception, maybe in another 10 years kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the game sold too poorly
        Why do doomposters always suffer from Dunning-Kruger?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cut content later sold as DLC
      DMC5 has no significant cut content. Vergil wasn't cut from the original release. If he had been then he would have actually gotten some new mechanics or levels instead of being almost the same as in DMC4SE.

      You could argue they designed his boss fight knowing they could reuse it later if the game did well, but that's not cut content.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DMC5 mtx are there if you are so bad at the game that you'd rather pay money than try to get good
      >DD2 mtx are there for basic things such as character customization or fast travel that aren't easily accessible normally in game
      If you can't see the diference you must be mentally moronic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Traveling is the game in DD2.

        The other stuff is cosmetic shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that aren't easily accessible normally in game
        that's not even true
        portcrystals work the same as the first game, 1 extra one won't do much difference
        and the character edit voucher is available 1 hour in for pocket change, hell with the new patch you can buy 99 of them ingame

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >portcrystals work the same as the first game, 1 extra one won't do much difference
          precisely because they are so limited 1 extra one IS a world of diference. There are only 6 portcrystals that you can obtain, and consediring how big the world is they are not enough. 1 out of 7 is 15%, so 15% of your capacity to fast travel is completly blocked behind a mtx.
          >hell with the new patch you can buy 99 of them ingame
          capcom backpedeling and changing the game so quickly after the horrible reception only strengthens my argument bud

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the power of DMC5 fujos

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DMC has been predatory for 20 years.
      DD hasn't

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DMC5 was a good game that could run on a toaster.
      DD2 was a flop that required a super computer to get 60 fps.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      memba when horse armor was the worst we could have gotten?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dmc5 was only sold to its niche dd2 was marketed to everyone

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DMC1 and 3 were leagues better. Still prefer over 2, 4, and R

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

      the memes were great. the mechanics were pretty good but the levels and most bosses were forgettable and playing as V sucked ass. i regret paying full price but i was riding the hype train big time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and most bosses were forgettable
        I maintain that DMC5 has the most quality bosses since 1.
        3 had Vergil, Beowulf, and Agni&Rudra. Everything else was gimmick shit or boring.
        4 only had Credo, MAAAAAAYBE Berial if you're into that. The Dante fights were particularly bad because it was just an input-reading bot.
        5 has Goliath, Cavaliere, V's familiars, King Cerberus, Urizen, Vergil, Dante, Elder Geryon Knight, and Malphas.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I maintain that DMC5 has the most quality bosses since 1.
          might just be me then, haven't played since release honestly

          V's book should just be a selectable weapon for Vergil

          that'd be cool

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Itsuno is totally working on DMC6 now that DD2's done, right?... right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you really want Itsuno to work on DMC 6 when DD2 was such a failure?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DD1 is just as garbage as DD2 and it didnt stop itsuno from making DMC5. They're completely different games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah? DMC5 was great.
        Though I wouldn't mind a new director with fresh ideas and design philosophies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DMCV was good, but Capcom sucks dick and V was an abysmal character to play.
          They need to get someone who loves Dante and get all these other b***hes the frick out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            6 being Dante, Vergil and Nero will trump any solo Dante game.

            >bonking vergil against his doppelganger with the devil buster
            Vergil didn't deserve such a hilarious defeat

            But you miss out on the kino Silver Bullet change to the lyrics.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Which one was it? Counter stab or the suplex?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Solo Dante game means they can make the game fun instead of focusing on a shitty criss-crossing story

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                5 is fun and hardly focused on the story. What more can they really do with Dante now anyway? Narrative wise and mechanically.

                Which one was it? Counter stab or the suplex?

                Silver Bullet has three stages in the Vergil fight. Slow strings at the start and if you remain human until Vergil's health hits about 70%. Popping DT or 70% health triggers the instrumental. Only when you buster Vergil and his doppelganger does the lyrics of Silver Bullet kick in.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >5 is fun and hardly focused on the story
                Is that why you get a hundred cutscenes and constantly switch character?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I forgot only 5 had cutscenes. I find nothing wrong with switching characters but I can get why people would. Its even less of an issue once you've beaten the game and can focus on scores, ranks and fun because then you can just play all of Dante's levels for example. That said, they should have done divergence mode but at least we have mods.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Any problems immediately dismissed and smoothed over with "mods"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon can't read. Sad.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dante's levels are not more fun the third time, the game suffers from all the characters and is a mess

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry to hear that. Dante's levels are fun every time for me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, DMC1 has great levels

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So does 3, 4 and 5. Damn what a good series.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Won't mention 2, then 4 and 5 may as well be only Nero
                What a good series

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Remember when people V was a prototype for a summoner class in DD2? lmao
            Man DD2 must've been a massive disappointment, I never cared about the series though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your gif looks more like Dante than DMC5 Dante.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's almost like Dante aged or something... crazy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your gif looks more like Dante than DMC5 Dante.

              don't forget
              >almost fricking died
              >in a coma for a MONTH
              he looks fine considering those two items and looks like his DMC4 counterpart during the flashback sequences

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I HEAR VOICES IN MY HEAD
    THEY COUNCIL ME
    THEY UNDERSTAND
    THEY TALK TO ME

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BANG BANG BANG
    MARIO'S A Black person

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ALL OF THESE BOYS INSIDE MY AYY ASSS

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On the subject of music, I think the most amazing thing about DMC5 in retrospect was how it turned my opinion around on Subhuman. Remember the initial leaked version that Capcom had to pull because it was so awful and the band accidentally wrote the lyrics thinking it was about Donte? And then the final version dropped before release, and it was still shit. I spent the whole first playthrough dreading it, and when I finally got to Dante's levels I was still dreading it, and then I got to the first combat and it was like I could feel the grin rising to my face in slow motion as it built up to YOU CANNOT KILL MEEEE and my opinion instantly flipped around, like I finally understood what it was there for. And then I got to Cavaliere. What a great game, fricking hell.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dynamic version of Subhuman is godtier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And then, Dragon's Dogma 2 happened.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its pretty good in game but its pretty clear to me that the guy really was writing the song about Donte, the lyrics really don't fit Dante

      meanwhile:

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't know they were wasting Casey Edwards on a gacha. That's grim.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          probably just to hold him over for the DMC6 soundtrack, he's going to have to share that one with HEALTH too since Suzy has Itsuno by the balls

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'M ON A BOAT

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    taco tuesday

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DMC5 has the worst music of the main series and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DMC5 has the best music of the main series and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not an uncommon opinion though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would you be "tired" of pretending it if there's nothing to tire against?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cuz this board is contrarian central and the only threads that get bumped are full of drama and trolls.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Understandable

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bring back Roiland the voice of Dante.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As ever, my Capcom pipe dream is that they have Itsuno direct a new Mega Man third person shooter spinoff with the tonal balance of DMCV. based on the variant setting created by The Protomen and featuring their music in a Metal Gear Rising style semi-diegetic context

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      someone get this idea to Matt, he's based enough to at least run it by them
      the protomen getting on an official game OST is a long-time coming too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I imagine Capcom knows about The Protomen, they still draw relatively large crowds at MAGfest and other events, which probably have some Capcom employee or another present in an official capacity, and I can't imagine that it's never percolated back up the chain that there's a band using the names of their characters and visual elements from their games.

        As for the other point, strangely enough, they're already on a video game OST.
        They were an on disc track for Rock Band 4 at launch. That's why Light Up the Night is twice as popular on Spotify than their next most popular track.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DMC was shelved for DD2 which is fair as Itsuno is in charge of both
    >DD2 turned out to be a total sidegrade and nothing would really be lost if it never happened
    >At least two more years before DMC6 if we're lucky
    >Even then it might be DMC remake purgatory until the 2030s

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >*blocks your path*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >*Trains for a literal hour in The Void and learns all your sword clash timings in your path*
      Wew...... I'm bored.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nero saying Jackpot for bustering Vergil put of midair >ACCEPT ME DADDY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bonking vergil against his doppelganger with the devil buster
      Vergil didn't deserve such a hilarious defeat

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My biggest issue with DMC5 is that it's a glorified DMC's Greatest Hits collection. It still manages a distinct feel and I like it quite a bit though. The story is mostly disposable, as it was in the others.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting to style on Virgil with style switching was both great and a bit sad.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the beginning there was DMC1.

    That's how it should have stayed. Rest of the series is shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jadedness and contrarianism are not viable substitutes for a personality

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unfortunately acting like a homosexual is a personality for you people

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah it is and my epic 3x3 is a suitable replacement too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Of gods and devils

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting, why do you feel this way? 1's atmosphere? The fact the game isn't just combo autism?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but I for one do appreciate that the game is not combo autism. Guns matter. Every enemy matters. DMC1 has major flaws and DMC3 was a fair direction to take the series but it is by no means my ideal sequel.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely can't imagine giving a single shit about story in these games. This is why I like NG threads, nobody ever mentions shit like story or any of that homosexualry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they mention DMC instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it sucks when the Dev injects a bunch of story and fricks up the game!! That's the fricking problem you mega moron!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why don't you make a NG thread instead of seething in a DMC thread?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there are NG threads?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >extremely reddit thread

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did DMC5 ran like ass when it was released?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think so
      It had some pretty long loading times on PS4 though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ran?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DMC5 was consistently 60 fps due to a combination of people lambasting DmC for being 30 fps and Itsuno containing all his open world urges for DD2.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So can someone explain what the actual problem with DD2 is? I don't wanna hear about how it's shit on PC, you should've expected this. Is there any real problem when it's functioning on consoles? Gameplay gripes? Story? Music? Anything?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From what I've gathered, it has less enemies than DD1, less classes/vocations than DD1, the "true" final boss is a cutscene, it's filled with microtransactions, and it generally less content than DD1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's filled with microtransactions
        the first game had literally dlc for the character creator, and the option to buy rift crystals with real money

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the main critique is that it has less vocations and less special skills to equip, they also gimped the vocations making them use only one weapon type, fricking over thief and ranger players who can equip bows and daggers at the same time in the first game. not all monsters returned from the original game, like evil eyes, the wieneratrice or the hydra there are new monsters though. for roleplaying homosexuals, they can't make short characters; considering that there's a brothel and a hotspring in the game, it's not brainer why they took out the option to make smaller than 160cm arisens or pawns: they didn't have the balls to get bad press for making a game that allows you to frick a prostitue as a child or run around with only steam covering your small privates around adults.
      and as of now it seems that ng+ barely changes anything in terms of difficulty just like the first game

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does every fricking dmc and action game thread now have to just be filled with seethe and shitflinging. You would think dmc 5 was the worst trash on the planet if you looked in any of these threads.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because this genre is dead. Fans are just naturally aggressive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you ask people to post S-Ranks or gameplay, it can end in three outcomes. They either post proof (rare), shut up immediately, or give you 30 replies bragging about how good they are and giving excuses as to why they won't post proof. It's mostly posers or loregays who remain

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When was the last time someone actually posted proofs or any kind of fricking gameplay in these threads? And I mean actual new gameplay not those 2 webms that ng Black person keeps posting every goddamn time

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just found out Reuben hates trannies, as if he wasn't already based.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He also believes in aliens, chemtrails, and is a complete anti-vax schizo, so I wouldn't take him seriously

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pro troony and vax weirdos shouldn't be taken seriously. Like you.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    would dmc 6 just be the devil bros adventuring through hell or would the whole scooby gang be involved somehow?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      v better not come back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        V's book should just be a selectable weapon for Vergil

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn't mind more W.B quotes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they already wrote his battle theme though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >HEALTH X DMC
          Honestly, that would be pretty fricking cool. I love HEALTH, and I love DMC.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Suzy's fricking Johnny
            Itsuno (and Capcom in general) love Suzy
            its bound to happen

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Some huge butthole wants to conquer both hell and Earth at the same time, you swap between Nero's side and Dante's side throughout the story
      >At the end of the game Vergil pulls some bullshit so he gets to be the final boss again
      >Also he'll have a full moveset and be controlled by AI in certain Dante levels but he won't be made playable until the SE release two years later

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know what. Frick all of you. I'm gonna get my SS ranks on dmc 3. Later losers

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone losing their shit after someone leaked Vergil's face for the first time
    kek
    https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/453036706/#q453044085
    https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/453043702/

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All rise for the best Ganker sings

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RULES WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS LAST ETERNALLY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EVERY MOVE YOU MAKE CREATES YOUR DESTINY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that video and song are burned into my mind lol
      I like Mr Troublemaker more but that one is lost to time, or at least its no longer on youtube
      you can find it on devils lair I think though

      in fact here it is https://devils-lair.org/videos/stylish/ethereal-terminal_duo.wmv

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember seeing the first DMC3 trailer and being blown away by all the shit they showed off. Wall-running, rainstorm, actual aerial combat. Went to the store and bought DMC1 that weekend

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FIGHT FOR FREEEOM
    LET'S UNITE TO CARRY ON
    IT'S TIME TO DEFEAT
    NOT RUN AWAY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss Brea... She was the only COMBO MAD player Itsuno ever recognized. Not even Donguri has that honor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the others just abuse unintended glitches
        brea played the game as it was meant to be played

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hey have you already make them know that we want dmc 6
    https://captown.capcom.com/en/super_elections/1/new

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID
    RUNNIN THROUGH MY HEAD
    RUNNIN THROUGH MY HEAD

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