Am I getting GASLIT? I've been playing FF7R and it feels like some of the characters acting way different then how they would in OG. Like I remember OG Cloud being an actual dick. Barret was more unhinged. Tifa seems a lot more ara ara now.
Wtf.
Am I getting GASLIT?
Squeenix is try to be SO REEEL in every way, grounding everything and all the characters. No fun allowed, everything must be CINEMATIC and movie worthy. Look at FF16.
Stop buying Final Fantasy games.
Stop playing Final Fantasy games.
There are a ton of better JRPGs (both action and turn based) that deserve your attention. Go find them, I guarantee they are of better quality and aren't all scams like FF.
Everyone I talk about this game with keep saying how the characters are exactly the same as in OG and I just don't see it. Did I just have a different interpretation?
>Did I just have a different interpretation?
No, your friends are either too retarded to spot the differences, or they have barely touched the original game, and just lie in front of your face
my friends are Ganker
Oh yeah? What's your interpretation of Cloud, Tifa and Barret then?!
Literally no FF7 demake "fan" was even alive when the OG and the movie were a big thing. They're legit examples of the "Huge FF7 fan excited to play it for the first time " meme.
Any and all (extremely common) complaints have been covered up online by the paid SE shills.
the destruction of sector 7 in particular was ridiculous
I thought they did a good job of not keeping it too serious or cinematic
It was still really goofy and lighthearted. I liked it a lot except for a few things/areas.
The remake is just fucking dog shit
It's not bad but it definitely feels like a Sony game post 2020 while the original definitely felt like a 97 game. The atmosphere and theme feel a lot different so far. This feels like I'm playing KH3.
I hated everything about it. I guess the graphics were kinda good on PC, when the main characters were on screen. But the way the NPCs look like their design was outsourced to fiverr ruined it. I don't know how snoys even accepted this garbage at all. It's so shit.
>thumbnail
I thought this was a blurred image of jimmy neutron for some reason
holy shit i see it
what the fuck
>But the way the NPCs look like their design was outsourced to fiverr ruined it.
The environments are full of generic asset store models too.
Actually no, it's just you and your 0 capacity to understand there's a difference between expanded scenes with voice acting and non verbal language vs expositive text messages.
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I've replayed the game this year and the remake just shits on it when it comes to characters
No it doesn't homosexual
Yes it does fucki'g retarded dumb cunt kys
EVERY character was more standoffish because the writing was shitty and bare ones
Characters barely interact with each others, in the original you can play for hours and not have the characters exchange a single world, they're all empty robots that are as likable as an rts fodder unit
I think you're kinda salty but people who pretend the character writing in the og game was better are truly coping because just basic things like cloud and aerith's interactions are done 300x better and make you care about her a lot more, when in the og game you barely interact with her aside some few moments.
And it isnt even a fault of the OG writing, just the new format being better to develop and make them interact with each other.
One of the biggest issues some of these jrpg boomers have is how they filled the inexistent moments of the og game with headcanons of how characters should act. Headcanons that were born when they were childre. So they imagined how aerith should be with cloud.
>make you care about her a lot more
>when in the og game you barely interact with her
youre retarded. Aeris is literally the OG waifu that everyone cared about and you're pretending like well documented history didn't happen. Shes essentially the most cared about character in RPG history.
I'll be honest with you, aerith is great but if her writing and scenes(and lack of them) were the same as the og game she would be mid nowadays. The best part of remaking these games is adding more scenes and deepening the relationship between the characters.
So now she can be popular with more people and not just you who fell in love with her when you were 7.
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I keep thinking how giving some chapters just to aerith and cloud get close to each other was the best decision of remake.
Him being close to her for 5 min and invading shinra even when he's supposed to be a cold merc works in a low poly game, but it would've been really bad and jarring in a modern format.
I was kinda surprised how they nailed aerith and cloud's dynamic. Shit like the coloseum as fucking great.
The easiest thing to fuckup in aerith is how a lot of people forget how she's not supposed to be angelic and pure like an angel.
She is innocent and benevolent, but she's not that stereotype of purity. So the remake version nailed her really hard.
The character dynamics are what i want to see the most in this project, things like Barret and Cid, or Yuffie and Vincent talking with each other will be cool to see.
In the OG game we were too limited in what we could do with them.
I agree, I just wish we could have had these improved interactions in a straight remake that tried to retain the visual style of the original setting.
Totally fair. I also wish they did something like that but i'm still liking the remake project a lot. The only shit i really dont like is the zack bullshit.
>Muh character interaction
Are these anons crazy or am I going insane? Cloud was definitely more standoffish in the original especially in the midgar section. But here a lot of his goofiness is showing early on. I get they're trying to make the twist "whoa he's actually a silly kiddo trying to be cool" but it just feels wrong from the cloud in midgar on 97.
media literacy is at an all-time low. These smooth brains played the game, but literally can't understand anything about it other than the fact that the characters have the same names and it takes place in the same city.
T. I didn't play the game
I think the remake is a fun game, but it is undeniably a more generic one.
That elevator comparison really says it all. Soul vs soulless
I really miss the colorful 90s sci-fi junkyard aesthetic of Midgar. Everything looks so samey these days.
explain
FF7 DEmake is a shitty SEQUEL to the Advent Children. It's also a unfinished slog, filled with American 2020s' identity propaganda. The Wall garden being turned into a chic gay paradise was one of the worst offenders.
They're alternate timelines. Thats kinda part of the story (Sorry anon for spoilers but if you didnt notice the weird time jannie ghosts werent in the OG)
It's not.
it is you fucking retard, did you even play the game?
I did.
It's a remake, non related to the og game. It's a new iteration.
it's mentioned multiple times that things are not how they should be, implying as they were in the original game.
And Barret in OG. During the train he starts fucking going nutty when people are shit talking avalanche and hailing shinra but 7R he just stares people down and threatens them.
>There are FF7 "fans" who have never played the real FF7
Calling it "Remake" was the biggest mistake of all time.
Holy crap is this just insane gaslighting? Some please tell me the truth or I'm going to shoot my mistress in the closet.
SE shills have been doing overtime since 2019. They cannot let this flop of a demake-sequel fail. Hence keeping the fact that it's not the same story, not the same game as the 1997 OG is crucial.
Otherwise, more people would realize that the nu-7 betrays not only the oldfag fans who waited 20 years for a loving remake (a la RE1 Remake ), but also the zoomies who wanted to experience the greatest JRPG ever" with a new coat of paint.
Like Im not gonna hate on it for being different but come on can we admit it is different?
It's not.
It's consequence of going from 2d text base game to full 3d.
I disagree because i feel like the characterization is the best part of remake, it's probably just a consequence of you having headcanons of how these characters should act, which is normal for a low poly game without voices.
But Barret literally does go monkey unga bunga on the train compared to him just starring down people
How is it, Is he more unhinged or not?
Because in a low poly game you cant convey nuance to a character like barret needs to be 10x more exagerated than the other models to show how emotive and impulsive it is, but his characterization still feels the same to me.
He still almost points his gun-arm at random shinra people in the train, what are you talking about?
I'm mainly just annoyed that if I want to play the remake with the more fun gameplay and make sense of the story I need to have played the original with the gameplay I don't enjoy. Shouldn't a remake replace the original?
I mean I could always just play the remake and try to take the story on its own terms.
>Shouldn't a remake replace the original?
It depends, sometimes, sure. But in others, not really. The intent of 7 remake is never to be a substitute to OG 7, the devs said it themselves.
I guess. I mean I suppose it's more interesting to have it be its own thing than just be a straight retelling, but it's annoying that I have to know like a plot summary or something of the original.
I'll just play the remake as is, fuck it. I played through XIV and enjoyed the references even without playing any other FF game before. (I DID try and play 7 original but I cannot get into turn based/ATB combat, sadly)
Like if there were a mod that made FF7 original play like a 3d brawler in battles and that was it I'd probably be able to get through it.
Like, it's totally fair if you wanted to see the classic story but with updated visuals and mechanics of remake, but that was never really the intention behind this project. Weirdly enough the wish of the devs is to have og 7 being always relevant and not getting "deleted".
>I did try to play original
Tou are gay as fuck.
And the demake is made for fags like you.
Enjoy finishing its fanfig story some time in 2033. Yes, it's also an episodic release, each ep costing upwards to 90 bucks brand new (+ DLC tip).
I don't mind. It's the same reason why I hate 1:1 anime adaptations yet everyone fucking wants it. Stupid anime degenerate fucks.
>more fun gameplay
FF7 OG literally plays way better. The demake covers barely 4 hours worth of content from the classic, but stretches it into a 80h slogfest with obligatory fetch quests, minigames and narrow pathway skibbiding animations.
I didn't play it yet cause I was waiting for them to release the complete game. How can you actually stretch midgar so hard?
Mostly by just spending way more time fleshing out characters and world building. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of padding too, but you spend much more time with character interactions than you do in the original. It's a natural evolution of story telling.
I'm sure the original is objectively a better game mechanically or something, I'm not going to judge from that standpoint, I know this is just me having bad taste; but I couldn't stick with it past Don Corneo's mansion. Like the battle system did zero for me, just made every random encounter annoying to do, I wasn't looking forward to battles.
If I could skip them and just do the plot or something that could work too. I've been tempted to watch a long play or something like that.
It's not a better game mechanically( or even character writing-wise), that's just boomer mentality. And i say that as someone who has 7 as my favorite FF.
I mean it's a classic of the genre right, that's got to count for something - I'm not going to say I think it's bad because I don't have fun with it. I'm more annoyed at myself if anything, I wish I could have fun with more traditional RPG stuff.
(I'm not a zoomer either, I grew up in the 90s, we had a SNES then an N64 then a PSX and a Dreamcast, but I never had any interest in JRPGs. Always platformers, rail shooters, action games, stuff like that.)
I think FF7 is a masterpiece but the truth is that if you dont enjoy its gameplay it's fine, dude, nothing wrong with that.
I really like the turn based system of it but i also think the strongest parts of 7 are related to its world, narrative and characters, not the combat itself.
FFVII is mostly "groundbreaking" for having prerendered backgrounds in an easier game after RE1 filtered people. I love the game, but it is not a significant advancement or departure from the games that came before it. Materia's really cool, that's about it.
>If I could skip them and just do the plot or something that could work too. I've been tempted to watch a long play or something like that.
I play on emulator and just speed up encounters.
Actually deranged thread
I'm going insane here.
Can't wait for this thread to reaper where people will be asking if there were Ubisoft towers in original ffvii. Also you remember it correctly cloud was prototype squall at the start. Barret was cursing and crazy. Tifa was just a childhood friend / low key I can fix him at the start.
what
This thread is kinda normal, there is just one guy that's unhinged and keeps repeating the same words so it's easy to know which posts are his ones.
I wonder how the fuck a game does that to people.
Really? I thought this was the best these characters have ever been, and the most true to OG.
Nah, I agree with you and I finished with the same sentiment. Cloud more prickly in og, Barret probably the closest to og, Tifa obnoxiously ara ara as fuck in remake
As someone who haven't played the original, i started the remake just today, i'm like 6h in and i'm having a LOT of fun, i was surprised.
Like compared to Balltroons Gay 3 (that i dropped at the end of act 2 because it was dogshit) i'm having like 1000x more fun.
Is the original THAT good that it's way better than the remake? Or are you guys just nostalgia-fags?
>Is the original THAT good
Think about all the reasons you like the remake and try to guess if they can be applied to the original.
>Balltroons Gay 3
Just as a warning, you are probably going to dislike the direction that the story of FF7 takes.
>Is the original THAT good
you are too stupid to breathe if you dont play the original first
Because it's not actually a remake but some bullshit time-warp sequel set after the Compilation shit that bled the FF7 dry of any of its creativity.
Was Marco and Tifa banging?
Why the fuck are there lights in the fucking slums?
I really don't get how Remakefags can dislike the original when it's what spawned the very specific character dynamics you get in the remake. I get enjoying new additional dialogue due to advancement in tech, but beyond that it's like disliking the very origins of something you like for no reason. Just complete irreverence.
Nevermind how the remake changes up or outright removes some nice dialogue bits from the original, so you can't even say that the remake manages to recreate every scene while adding on top of it.
Can you link any post that talks how the og is bad, because i'm pretty sure you're just reading things wrong.
I mean, what am I supposed to take away from posts like this?
>they're all empty robots that are as likable as an rts fodder unit
Which is blatantly false. I've been playing the original recently and I was genuinely surprised by how well the game held up in character writing and interactions. I'd even say the amount of dialogue is still comparable to a lot of modern JRPGs which surprised me. Yeah, little moments are not as prolific as the remake, but the remake also has years of tech and FF history way ahead of it.
That's why i said to him that i think he's just salty.
I think the lack of interactions is just a limitation of its format, ff7 was perfect in what it could do. But removing all the angry of his post, i do agree remake inevitably does interactions and nuance better.
How are there 7R fags? I'm genuinely curious
people from reddit and twitter have no standards
Yes they fucked it up fully and turned all the chars into the cringe knock off cosplay version.
Barret is the only well written character in the requel.
Although it's kinda unfair since he was pretty enjoyable in the OG too. I am pretty sure they're going to ruin him somehow during his showdown with Dyne. Squeenix are masters at transmuting gold into shit.
That is the Clive Rosenfield effect. Overexposure to XVI has addled your goyish brain, confusing your grasp on reality. The only known cure is to denounce yoshitpiss
They act like their compilation selves, plus making up headcanons from a time before voice acting.
Did you even play the compilation, dude. I know Ganker bros dont play videogames but how the fuck do you even pretend aerith is the same as her compilation version.
It gets even worse when last year we saw a cc remake with the old aerith. Dude is tripping.
>I've been playing FF7R and it feels like some of the characters acting way different then how they would in OG
FF7R is not a "remake" in the strict sense, its a kind of sequel based on the events of the original FF7 universe with characters aware of that universe, its the worst kind of attempt they could've made at subversing expectations with meta narrative elements. Where games like MGS2 deconstruct sequels, hype and fan expectations FF7R sniffs its own farts, pokes fun at fans while simultaneously jerking them off and plays it so ridiculously safe by refusing to killing off characters it becomes boring
I think your statement is kinda mongoloid because there are around 2...1 character that knows what is going on, and that's it. Did you read a wikipedia summary or just absorbed info about the game per osmosis from here?
>abloo bloo
imagine defending the demake, any year lol
So you did absorb the game per osmosis. You can at least watch an youtube video to shitpost or something, the game has its issues but when you cant even point them you just look retarded.
I'm trans btw
did YOU play it because there's a LITERAL FUCKING BOSS FIGHT where characters see the original ff7 events play out you fucking inbred
>Aerith
>Red XIII
>Cloud has visions but he doesn't seem to understand them yet
Yeah, and none of them has no fucking idea of what they mean, only sephiroth. They are no different than a person who played ff7r first and saw all that.
lol, Red XIII and Aerith have plenty idea, I think you're just debating the interpretation that the game shoves right in your face. I still like the game btw, not the person you were originally replying to.
I disagree with you because aerith herself at the end has no fucking idea of what they changed or didnt change, that's why she only had a "weird feeling" in the rain. The point is more about how only Sephiroth has that type of knowledge now, aerith loses hers progressively as the game happens.
Ganker doesnt play videogames.
Our time is nigh, FF V and IX brothers!
Squenix has no choice!
Because Remake sucks in almost every single way.
From the shitty overly tanky enemies that take 5 hours to kill basic shit
From the absolute guttered look of the world. Crazy steam punk elevators? Gone. The sky completely blocked by the upper levels. GONE. The people in the slums can see the sun now which goes against the entire point of them being separated from nature/light/hope/etc
Are we in a dungy dirty slum? Should the music reflect that? Lol no MAKE IT A FULL ORCHESTRA BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A FUCKING ORCHESTRA NOW. ONE WINGED ANGEL WAS A MEGA HIT EVERY SONG MUST BE ORCHESTRATED.
From the shitty full animations play out every time you swing your fucking sword to break some boxes that completely stops movement
I FUCKING HATE REMAKE I cant wait for part 2 to sell 50% of the copies and for part 3 to be half baked
Man you're probably so angry, damn.
anger is a byproduct of the Clive Rosenstein effect. XVI has ripped this community apart
Not even clive rosenstein, it's jaded rosenstein, it gets worse with age.
will denouncing yoshitpiss help?
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I just hate it so fucking much. Fuck Squeenix, and fuck demake lovers.
Wait until you found out you were gaslit about it being "a remake with some changes'
Running through the OG game now. Finishing up the flashback. I wonder how Remake will explain Tifa and her father being in the Reactor while Sephiroth was torching Nibelheim
Wasnt Tifa a temporary guide for shinra while SOLDIER was there? it makes sense to have her being there.
Yes she was... during the initial trip. Also while she wasn't allowed in the actual Reactor because
>Sephiroth
>Only authorized people are allowed in. This place is full of Shinra's industrial secrets.
But Sephiroth burning Nibelheim was apparently days later. No one knew Sephiroth was going to go crazy until it was too late. And Tifa and her father's body was in the actual reactor. What the fuck were they doing there?
This isn't me shitting on OG by the way, I know it was set up for the twist. I'm just curious how SE will explain it in Rebirth
True, the whole nibelheim scenario will probably be a lot more developed to explore how the whole breakdown of sephiroth went.
I will say that I've always felt Sephiroth's heel turn happened too fast. Sephiroth goes from cold to in distress to fuck humans to fuck humans and Cetra almost immediately. So I do hope Rebirth either makes the build up to Sephiroth's meltdown more apparent or make it clear that he wasn't really stable from the day they walked into Nibelheim
Sephiroth has a lot of potential to have a good downfall in nibelheim. One of the things they introduced in the mobile game(lol) is how he carries a photo of lucretia with him all the time, and hojo called her Jenova.
He grew up being constantly manipulated and lied to. If they explore that he can have a great breakdown.
I still need to play that. How is it?
Also I think Dr. Gast is a good example of what you're talking about. Because Dr. Gast worked for Shinra and started the SOLDIER program. Only because he had no idea how much Shinra was lying to him. When Ifalna told him the truth he fucked off immediately.
The first soldier storyline is really interesting because it explores parts of ff7's world that werent touched a lot, like nations that were anihilated by shinra. But there isnt a lot of content yet so it's not that worth it. But it's nice and had the most nobuo uematsu soundtrack i've hear in a long time.
And yeah Hojo is such a piece of shit, man. Young seph keeps going around asking if people knows his mother called jenova with this picture.
Really curious to see how they will tell Lucrecia's story in this remake.
So maybe his break was caused by thinking Shinra conducted experiments on Lucrecia to make her into what was stored in the Nibelheim reactor instead of the souljuice planet tick from outer space she really was, on top of learning he was something similar?
I dont know man, but just these things tell so much. Poor guy not only was being experimented since birth but being fooled constantly and sent to battlefields to wipe entire armies. It makes sense for him to go insane.
Well it gives a fuck ton more weight to this line
>Sephiroth
>...I've always felt since I was small...
>That I was different from the others. >Special, in some way.
>But... not like this...
He was also coddled by Shinra and people kept telling him how great he was, that feeds to his ego. He initially thought he was Cetran because he felt different, he was superior. And Jenova's name kept appearing in the books.
The truth is that Sephiroth had the "jaws" approach but he always could've been developed in both ways, be it a looming threat or a nuanced villain. His backstory has potential enough for him to go any route development-wise.
For me I don't think Sephiroth is that interesting as a villain, at least before anon's post
. I think what makes Sephiroth memorable is how he affects everything around him. Mostly Cloud but every time Sephiroth makes an appearance the status quo changes.
Sephiroth in the OG is more like a narrative tool than a character itself, he's the devil whispering in cloud's ear, and i think he's great at being that. But it's clear how that isnt enough for some people so for this new project the devs want to do more with him.
I feel like remake's approach is to develop him more, not to make him good or have a redemption story, but to make him more complex.
The remake mischaracterises everyone, but it's just a symptom of the root issue which is gaudy excess. In the remake everything has to be more complicated, extreme and excessive. All the goofy anime shit aside FFVII is quite somber and restrained in its storytelling, and none of that comes across in the remake. It's so bloated with quirky pandering that the original narrative is (deliberately) neglected. I've said that the remake feels like a greatest hits compilation of VII remembered wrong by people who spent the last twenty years only playing the compilation games and I stand by that.
>somber and restrained in its storytelling
Only when it's about the characters which they nailed in FFVIIR. Motherfucker, we're talking about a story that has mechs, aliens, a planet that has its own quirky personality, a 6ft 5 motherfucker with a katana the size of himself that can teleport around at will. These elements that are still prevalent in Remake. They make bombastic things, just as bombastic or they take it up a notch, which they should, because that's what made FFVII fun, meanwhile they made the quieter moments, just as restrained, just as quiet, just as they did in the OG. You fags are just picking the weird bombastic, unrealistic elements like the jannies and made a sweeping generalization as if that is all Remake did. Really, Sephiroth flying and chucking a materia at Cloud is "somber" and "restrained"? Diamond facing of 1v1 with the Sister Ray near Midgar is restrained? Get out of here man.
I am talking about presentation. VII had comedy as well but the ratio of serious to funny is better than in the remake, and whenever the remake tries to replicate those quiet emotional plot beats it ends up being overacted melodrama instead. There's no sincerity to be found there.
>best iterations
Calling them iterations is generous, they're at times unrecognisable
>Calling them iterations is generous, they're at times unrecognisable
Again, i dont know what to say beyond that i disagree absolutely with your take.
Can you give some specific examples of what you mean instead of broad generalizations?
I dont know what to say beyond that i disagree absolutely with everything you said man, lol
I think remake is by far the best iteration of these characters and the material that understands them the most, but if you dont think so...ok.
That's a great description, you are 100% correct. It's so bloated, and yet so empty of everything the real game has.
I legit feel like there is a version of this compilation you created in your head because if you fucking play cc you'll see how the characters act completely different. Seems like you're larping.
>I legit feel like there is a version of this compilation you created in your head because if you fucking play cc you'll see how the characters act completely different. Seems like you're larping.
People just need to google aerith cc for 5 min on youtube to see how different the writing is.
Acting like Remake is writen like the Compilation is something that was parroted so some people just keep repeating it without thinking.
Yep. Aerith is a robot in Crisis core.
Jesus fucking Christ. Well that explains why he introduced his mother as Jenova. And thanks to the context in Crisis Core we know the only reason Sephiroth was in Nibelheim at all is because Lazard went missing.
Hojo is possibly the most evil fuck in the entirety of the FF7 universe.
Sephiroth is the main villain but at the end of the day he's just a product of shinra's evilness. If we look the big picture Hojo is definitely the biggest bastard.
I look at Sephiroth like a fusion between Jenova's predatory nature and Shinra's greed. Jenova's literal otherworldly abilities are just the method it uses to feed on planets. Shinra willingly harvests the souls of the dead just to increase their own power. Sephiroth is the worst of both worlds. He's convinced himself he deserves to be sole proprietor of every soul on the planet just because of the abilities he inherited from his "mother"
Hojo does evil things based on what he thinks it would be the funniest one, there is no way.
Remake has a flashback to TIfa and her dead father in the same place it first happened in the original, when she's with you for the second reactor bombing.
tbh as Rebirth comes closer, making the game a departure from the original makes more sense. I'm imagining if it was exactly the same, you'd know every single thing that's going to happen in the story with the only draw being new gameplay systems that you'd already explored in the first installment. You could just keep replaying the first installment to get the meat of what's substantially different.
Also I appreciate the probing questions Tifa starts asking from this point on
>Tifa
>.........
>Cloud...?
>How bad was I when Sephiroth cut me?
>Cloud
>I thought you were a goner. ......I was really sad.
>Tifa
>.........
To her, Cloud was never there. He shouldn't know this. And yet his account of events from that day are accurate. So Tifa doesn't know how to react.
>Watching someone play FF7 on yt
>Get up to the cloud true past scene
>They either talk over the fucking scene or are playing on the shitty re-release version that plays the wrong music during the scene.
Fucking infuriating
hells what I know, I only know some baseline stuff, last I played OG, I wiped to Lost Number.
I just hope they keep the Xenogears reference.
>I remember OG Cloud being an actual dick. Barret was more unhinged. Tifa seems a lot more ara ara now.
Show proof.
Is it just me or is the overall tone of the original FF7 and the "remake" completely different?
Like the remake seemed almost embarrassed by the campiness moments that the original FF7 had.
That's most remakes these days.
They're different games made by different people anon. Why would the characters be acting the same?
You're not being ""'gaslit""" (that's a term paranoid women use btw), you're just being MEMED for playing a shitty remake.
If they actually made a remake it would be one thing, instead we got an EVA "sidemake time loop bullshit".
Honestly its a bummer. I can't even think of any recent rpgs ive played that had tone of games like FF7. Maybe BG3 a bit...
>They're different games made by different people anon. Why would the characters be acting the same?
It's like you retards didn't even bother checking the dev team and just spew whatever dumb bullshit your favourite dumb youtubers said to you.
3 devs in common doesn't mean the team is remotely the same
nta, but the main writers, directors, musicians and artists are all there doing the series since the first game. Everything they published is canon.
Remake Cloud is an actual dick though? What's the problem.
Maybe the localization was different? Its hard to say. I also remember Cloud being more of an asshole
The Remake characters just feel like more fleshed out versions of the OG characters. Nothing they do feels out of character, it's just that the original characters weren't give the chance to react to 1/100th of the things they react to in Remake.
Man its almost like turning anime characters into real life people is always shit or something.
It's a sequel, not a remake. Yes, it's a bait and switch game.
Since you couldn't see them acting, a lot of the character development were left to your mind to fill in. The FFVIIR characters are more developed, thus, you'll lose a lot of what you perceived as them to be, on the other side, they are more developed to the authors intention. They are essentially the same thing though.
Remake is better than the original. OP is a seething midwit with baby duck syndrome