Everyone knows especially Ringmail Taylor that Unearthed Arcana much like the Tome of Magic goes against the fidelity and spirit that Gygax intended. They are not included when considering the game proper as these changes were never meant to be implemented in games outside of theory-crafting, truly it is known.
>retcon and make all the other classes weaker!
It's not a retcon if it was always intended to work that way. The "original" damage formula was literally misprint due to an editing mistake when trying to conserve space for printing.
>The "original" damage formula was literally misprint due to an editing mistake when trying to conserve space for printing.
Is there a source for this information? Not doubting, just ineterested in reading.
I mean yeah, there probably is, I remember Gygax mentioning it somewhere himself, and it's also been printed as the explanation in at least one Dragon Magazine, but it's not like I wrote down the source or anything, it's just from memory, sorry.
>retcon and make all the other classes weaker!
It's not a retcon if it was always intended to work that way. The "original" damage formula was literally misprint due to an editing mistake when trying to conserve space for printing.
Gygax is untrustworthy
All his DF questions about rules that were unpopular have some variant of "well I didn't want to do this but then a bunch of nerds harassed me until I was forced to make these rules for them!"
So a fall of ten feet should do as much damage as getting stabbed with a sword?
Tripping can kill you
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>Gygax is untrustworthy
No he's not, you're just a fricking moron.
You know, that drawing of the girl vaulting is pretty cool, make it a spear and you have a pretty cool character concept for some wuxia spear wielding acrobatic warrior
Fall damage absolutely should scale quadratically, why is this even a question? Breaking your fall should reduce the effective distance fallen (since sliding on a wall or grabbing an overhang slows your speed), which innately has compounding benefits the farther the fall is. Per the rules in the comic, if you reduce your effective fall height by 10 feet, that's a reduction of >1d6 damage if you actually fell 10 feet >2d6 damage if you actually fell 20 feet >3d6 damage if you actually fell 30 feet
Yes, falling 10 feet can easily kill the average person if it's a bad fall. People die just from falling down sometimes lol. That's not even a gripe with what I wrote, 1d6 per 10 feet is the standard.
Fall =/= dropping. A fall is an uncontrolled affair, you are speeding towards the ground as fast as possible and without bracing for it.
However a controlled drop or jump, from 10 feet, is absolutely doable. Just don't lock your knees or sprain an ankle.
At my job any work above 5 feet requires either a fall protection harness or staging with guardrails high and strong enough to withstand someone falling over onto them. If you are caught above five feet with neither of those things, it's an automatic writeup, a week suspension without pay, and repeat offenders might get fired.
People have died from far, far less. I know it brings in the old debate of how much realism is too much realism, but taking one bad fall even from seemingly harmless heights leading to crippling injury is just something that would end up present anywhere unless the living being in question either had absolute protection from external force or was light enough that it physically cannot ever fall fast enough to be damaged
I don't understand what I'm supposed to find stupid given how poor quality that image is. All I can see is "controversy at the world cup" and South America - which appears to be correctly labeled, maybe? - but I can't make out what that image on top of South America is.
That one pornstar at Twitch Con jumped like 5 feet in the air, landed on her ass because she thought the 1ft deep foam pit would cushion her fall, and instead broke her spine in 2 places when she hit the concrete floor.
The author of the work this mad was based on has disowned the adventure, and apologized for creating such hateful content, and you are a bad person for sharing this.
>Dude, what if we made a class where you couldn't control them in combat cause of their code of honor. But also couldn't control them out of combat cause of their code of honor
I'm not sure how that got past testing
>But also couldn't control them out of combat
Maybe I'm misreading and I don't know it outside of the comic, but it only days "part of any day" not all of it. So like an hour or two training session every day.
>Leap Attacks for high damage. >High combat-map mobility. >Any magic items that boost mobility are magnified; spider-climb boots w/ a Crossbow to ruin half the monster-manual's day. >Scale right past all the anti-magic fields and dodge the physical traps like they're nothing.
It's time to put the spellbooks away for a while Anon, go stretch out and figure out how motion can feel.
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Interesting. But ultimately Cringe of the highest degree
Also LMAOing at that level 17 ability. As if y ou wouldn't be able to just normally fly 100% of the time at that level.... though it is 5e. You get your first cure light wounds potion at what.... level 9 in that system, and the first time you see a single gold piece is level 6 or 7?
Not anon of previous post, but.. >Ability to sneak attack with quarterstaff/spear/javelin >Advantage on acrobatics checks to stay on your feet in rough weather/surroundings >Increased jumping distance when equipped with polearms >Able to revert falling damage into bonus damage with weapon attacks/advantage on attack rolls when attacking after falling a certain distance.
>>Able to revert falling damage into bonus damage with weapon attacks/advantage on attack rolls when attacking after falling a certain distance.
Orbital strike acrobat once you have some option to teleport or fly
I'd give them added effects on Disengage and Dodge actions. I dunno if they should get Cunning Action, but it should be something that synergizes very well with it to encourage a classic Thief-Acrobat.
You make it into a DEX-based arcane spellcaster, because god forbid 5e can have classes do anything out of the ordinary through any means other than spells. The musician/diplomat/swashbuckler class is a full spellcaster, the hunter and holy warrior classes are half casters, literally three in four classes are casters and the remaining all have caster subclasses. The game has 4 redundant arcane-caster classes and 3 non-caster classes for frick's sake, what makes you think that it could handle a class with mundane utility?
unironically pre-woke when you could have a negress character and all the 99.9% white kids watching didn't question it or think twice about it because her Blacksity didn't inform the character.
acrobats aren't real
Unearthed Arcana much?
Everyone knows especially Ringmail Taylor that Unearthed Arcana much like the Tome of Magic goes against the fidelity and spirit that Gygax intended. They are not included when considering the game proper as these changes were never meant to be implemented in games outside of theory-crafting, truly it is known.
Shut up namegay, Gygax spirit was "you can't play anything outside my stuff because you MUST BUY MY STUFF ONLY" and nothing else
Then explain this, mister smarty pants.
SOVL
>retcon and make all the other classes weaker!
It's not a retcon if it was always intended to work that way. The "original" damage formula was literally misprint due to an editing mistake when trying to conserve space for printing.
>The "original" damage formula was literally misprint due to an editing mistake when trying to conserve space for printing.
Is there a source for this information? Not doubting, just ineterested in reading.
I mean yeah, there probably is, I remember Gygax mentioning it somewhere himself, and it's also been printed as the explanation in at least one Dragon Magazine, but it's not like I wrote down the source or anything, it's just from memory, sorry.
Gygax is untrustworthy
All his DF questions about rules that were unpopular have some variant of "well I didn't want to do this but then a bunch of nerds harassed me until I was forced to make these rules for them!"
Tripping can kill you
>Gygax is untrustworthy
No he's not, you're just a fricking moron.
You know, that drawing of the girl vaulting is pretty cool, make it a spear and you have a pretty cool character concept for some wuxia spear wielding acrobatic warrior
Kino. Like a wardancer or wytch
When push comes to shove, you have to do what you love, even if it's not a good idea.
Fall damage absolutely should scale quadratically, why is this even a question? Breaking your fall should reduce the effective distance fallen (since sliding on a wall or grabbing an overhang slows your speed), which innately has compounding benefits the farther the fall is. Per the rules in the comic, if you reduce your effective fall height by 10 feet, that's a reduction of
>1d6 damage if you actually fell 10 feet
>2d6 damage if you actually fell 20 feet
>3d6 damage if you actually fell 30 feet
So a fall of ten feet should do as much damage as getting stabbed with a sword?
Yes
How is this even a question? Were you home-schooled or just Ameritard?
Yes, falling 10 feet can easily kill the average person if it's a bad fall. People die just from falling down sometimes lol. That's not even a gripe with what I wrote, 1d6 per 10 feet is the standard.
Hell, people sometimes die from falling less than 10 feet.
People also sometimes can fall hundreds of feet and walk it off.
Fall damage is stupid
Fall =/= dropping. A fall is an uncontrolled affair, you are speeding towards the ground as fast as possible and without bracing for it.
However a controlled drop or jump, from 10 feet, is absolutely doable. Just don't lock your knees or sprain an ankle.
Black person, literally the news of today for my country is a firefighter that fell from 4 meters and died. That's slightly over 13 feet.
>fire fighter dying is countrywide news
Where tf do you live?
>A tragic death of a guy saving lives during a disaster not making national news
Where tf do you live?
Easily nationally newsworthy in any country with a sub-50 million population
That describes 70% of nations on this planet, just saying.
Are you moronic? Yes, falls are hideously dangerous.
At my job any work above 5 feet requires either a fall protection harness or staging with guardrails high and strong enough to withstand someone falling over onto them. If you are caught above five feet with neither of those things, it's an automatic writeup, a week suspension without pay, and repeat offenders might get fired.
People have died from far, far less. I know it brings in the old debate of how much realism is too much realism, but taking one bad fall even from seemingly harmless heights leading to crippling injury is just something that would end up present anywhere unless the living being in question either had absolute protection from external force or was light enough that it physically cannot ever fall fast enough to be damaged
Everybody is calling you a moron anon but I fell off the roof of my second story home and only broke an ankle.
That means you have at least 3 hit points.
Better double that for the typical overweight Amerifat that hasn't jogged or used stairs in a decade.
Americans don't leave their houses because they are lazy, Europeans can't leave their houses because of the Muslim refugees.
That is what an american who never left his house would think, yes.
Rent-free.
I don't understand what I'm supposed to find stupid given how poor quality that image is. All I can see is "controversy at the world cup" and South America - which appears to be correctly labeled, maybe? - but I can't make out what that image on top of South America is.
>nobody pointed out that swords do 1d8 + strength bonus damage even in AD&D and BX
longswords; broadswords did 2d4, normal (short) swords 1d6 - but different versions may have different damages.
That one pornstar at Twitch Con jumped like 5 feet in the air, landed on her ass because she thought the 1ft deep foam pit would cushion her fall, and instead broke her spine in 2 places when she hit the concrete floor.
Yes but it should stop at 8 to 10d6 because of terminal velocity
Are there more of these comics? I've only seen the cavalier one before
Yes but only barbarian as far as I know
He also did maps
That's a shame, I quite enjoy these
The maps are still pretty good
I wasn't expecting the spaceship to be like that.
>I've only seen the cavalier one before
Lurk more, newbie, and you will find out.
How cruel he is to make the CHA 18 anti-paladiness and not draw her before disintegrating her. We can only imagine.
The author of the work this mad was based on has disowned the adventure, and apologized for creating such hateful content, and you are a bad person for sharing this.
Thompson did a few for dragons as well.
>surinam dragon
dear god how horrifying
Could you post the rest?
Here's the one for reds.
Blues
And finally whites for the full chromatic set.
>2% human ate dragon
What they get for kidnapping a vore e-girl princess
>Dude, what if we made a class where you couldn't control them in combat cause of their code of honor. But also couldn't control them out of combat cause of their code of honor
I'm not sure how that got past testing
UA is a pile of unfinished jank.
Remember, Gygax’s mindless and doomed obsession with getting a D&D movie made put us all into the bad D&D timeline.
>But also couldn't control them out of combat
Maybe I'm misreading and I don't know it outside of the comic, but it only days "part of any day" not all of it. So like an hour or two training session every day.
If it were a normal class that would be fine. but since you ALSO can't control your character IN COMBAT.... Well its just adding insult to injury
>and monk
I always thought it was a proto-monk class
"Full-size" internet version. The actual poster is even bigger and higher-res.
Does your thread has any point at all, or it's just standard Saturday shitposting?
If some wizard handing out magical roles and I got stuck in a fantasy world as an acrobat, I'd be pissed
It was the 80s and Diana is both black and a woman.
Acrobat w/furkini isn't the worst thing that could've happened to her.
... So what is the worst thing?
Admittedly it would be a different show if they solved puzzles with easily made pancakes but still
There is literally nothing wrong with a furkini in the context of D&D.
>2nd best role in the whole group
>1st when it comes to utility
>Bitches anyway
Sounds to me like you are a homosexual
Why would Dungeon Master make a fat, neckbearded guy an acrobat?
400 pounds of stinking blubber but it moved like an acrobat (professional/magical). I don't know anon that sounds fantastical and scary to me.
Have you never heard of Sammo Hung
We had a rule at our table that you had to act out almost everything. Having a fat bearded man pirouette for my amusement is totally my jam
>Leap Attacks for high damage.
>High combat-map mobility.
>Any magic items that boost mobility are magnified; spider-climb boots w/ a Crossbow to ruin half the monster-manual's day.
>Scale right past all the anti-magic fields and dodge the physical traps like they're nothing.
It's time to put the spellbooks away for a while Anon, go stretch out and figure out how motion can feel.
/tg/ approved Ganker
acrobats are pretty cool
Nice 40 year old children’s cartoon reference, OP. Really high effort thread.
OP might be a spamming homosexual, but that doesn't make you any less of a zoomer
That's EXOTIC DANCER for you, anon.
Source
This looks nothing like her
Call it a loose interpretation then.
>makes the black a thief-acrobat
>the actual thied is redhead
Gingers are soulless and have no morals
>Zoomer goes full zoom
I love acrobats so much
I play a 20th level black, half-elvish acrobat in my latest homebrew WOTC Dungeons & Dragons™ campaign!
barbarian monks weren't really a thing back then.
Wasn't Warduke in that show in one episode?
Yes.
He was hella cool.
Even caught the Dungeon Master in a block of ice.
He's the only one who beat the Dungeonmaster.
And as far as I recall, that's the only time he showed up.
>shows up once
>humiliates God
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves forewer
Yes.
What's that? An evil fighter for ants?
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the batshit-circus, and I've been involved in numerous secret dive shitting raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed chillidawgs. I am trained in yard-ape warfare and I'm the top tuck'n'roller in the entire Barnham & Batsie circuit. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will shit-mouf your wienersucker with precision the likes of which has never been shat before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can dive-shit you with the nose authority of of god's own f-18, and that's just with my hairy batshit encrusted butthole. Not only am I extensively trained in flaming hoop diving, but I have access to the entire pile of guano from the worlds largest bat preserves and I will use it to its full extent to dive-shit onto your miserable ass face, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking shyeeted, kiddo.
is it ok that I have an erection
Yes.
Diana is such great waifubait. 10/10, would bleach her womb
Giant and shaman.
T O M B O Y
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How would you stat her modern? Monk?
Only poofter gays play modern games.
Yes
Thoughts?
Interesting. But ultimately Cringe of the highest degree
Also LMAOing at that level 17 ability. As if y ou wouldn't be able to just normally fly 100% of the time at that level.... though it is 5e. You get your first cure light wounds potion at what.... level 9 in that system, and the first time you see a single gold piece is level 6 or 7?
So how would you update the acrobat for 5e?
Not anon of previous post, but..
>Ability to sneak attack with quarterstaff/spear/javelin
>Advantage on acrobatics checks to stay on your feet in rough weather/surroundings
>Increased jumping distance when equipped with polearms
>Able to revert falling damage into bonus damage with weapon attacks/advantage on attack rolls when attacking after falling a certain distance.
>>Able to revert falling damage into bonus damage with weapon attacks/advantage on attack rolls when attacking after falling a certain distance.
Orbital strike acrobat once you have some option to teleport or fly
I like this one but I'd also like to see if the tumbling mechanic from this
design could be worked in somehow, maybe made more useful in some way.
Sneak Attack with a 10' reach sounds funny. I'd throw in some tripping abilities too. Maybe proficiences with whips, rope darts and grappling books.
I'd give them added effects on Disengage and Dodge actions. I dunno if they should get Cunning Action, but it should be something that synergizes very well with it to encourage a classic Thief-Acrobat.
You make it into a DEX-based arcane spellcaster, because god forbid 5e can have classes do anything out of the ordinary through any means other than spells. The musician/diplomat/swashbuckler class is a full spellcaster, the hunter and holy warrior classes are half casters, literally three in four classes are casters and the remaining all have caster subclasses. The game has 4 redundant arcane-caster classes and 3 non-caster classes for frick's sake, what makes you think that it could handle a class with mundane utility?
SEXO CON DIANA
brasileiro basado
AAAAAAAAAAAAA SEXOOOO
QUERO SEXOOOO
unironically pre-woke when you could have a negress character and all the 99.9% white kids watching didn't question it or think twice about it because her Blacksity didn't inform the character.