Anons. I'm losing hope , I just can't beat malenia

Anons
I'm losing hope , I just can't beat malenia
I started playing this game on release ,220h later and i still haven't finished the game yet

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I started playing this game on release ,220h later and i still haven't finished the game yet
    Not even normalgays play this slow.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I gave up the main file and started new games with some of them being radomized enemies / items

      Stamp should send her flying into the air letting you followup with a charged R2. That's a lot of poise damage.
      What exactly are you having trouble with? Light roll makes it very easy to avoid waterfowl. Some of her other attacks are harder to deal with imo.

      >Stamp should send her flying into the air letting you followup with a charged R2
      > Light roll makes it very easy to avoid waterfowl
      this is exactly what i'm doing , i even got the timing of waterfowl
      yet it only takes one hit from her to stagger me to death

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        To help your survivability since of course anybody is going to get hit eventually, find the dragoncrest greatshield talisman if you don't already have it. Or use a weaker version. It's actually a big boost to damage absorption in PvE. Plus greatjar for more load so you can use more armor while still light rolling.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You might want to replace one of your stamina talismans with a dragoncrest for physical resist, vs Malenia it really helps to be able to take an extra hit or two, or just barely be able to survive a failed waterfowl dodge.

          >dragoncrest greatshield
          that's actually a good idea , it raises my defenses by almost 19% and the greatjar talisman does keep me under the light roll threshold

          >50 Endurance

          ran out of stats to level

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Should get 60 vig since that's the next hardcap

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    use your crouch+light attack poke. it staggers her big time and it's quick

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i don't understand why randomly her attacks have hyperarmor

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    these are my stats

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Stamp should send her flying into the air letting you followup with a charged R2. That's a lot of poise damage.
      What exactly are you having trouble with? Light roll makes it very easy to avoid waterfowl. Some of her other attacks are harder to deal with imo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You might want to replace one of your stamina talismans with a dragoncrest for physical resist, vs Malenia it really helps to be able to take an extra hit or two, or just barely be able to survive a failed waterfowl dodge.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >50 Endurance

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >50 END
      >no armor
      >not even a talisman to boost attack with low equip load
      fricking why?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that talisman raises my AR by mere 14 points
        i really didn't have anything else to level up

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you should wear the bull goat armor, it'll massively help with your defense against her mostly physical damage

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You don't want to get hit by her or she heals.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              yes i know and my ungabunga str/dex/end split build was able to blast her ass into space dual-weilding two axes regardless of her gay little life steal

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you should wear the bull goat armor, it'll massively help with your defense against her mostly physical damage

          either that or respec and put 10pts of end into vig, the health will help a lot more than end would at that point

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >50 vigor
      >50 end
      >no armor
      I imagine you're getting oneshot by half of her combos. You should at least upgrade your weapon to +25

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i don't want to use those rock cause they're finite
        and yeah she one shots me with almost all her combos

        Not even shields? Enjoy retrying that fight forever, I guess.
        And don't even bother with non-From games like a Nioh or a DMC game; refusing to use those games' gameplay mechanics won't get you far or will make the experience boring.

        i really hate using shields
        i bought both nioh and nioh 2 but i still haven't touched them yet

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Refund them or get them deleted from your Steam account; those games are all about using every single mechanic available, from ki pulse to onmyo, from living weapon to demon cores.
          Someone like you that sees his toolset as "cheese" will have a miserable experience with both games.

          I'll put it like this, neither Nioh game has i-frames as cheap as Elden Ring Souls (they exist, but they're extremely limited compared to what From games use) so many times you have to BLOCK and sometimes you have to DODGE. . Not i-frame abuse but actually dodging the enemy's attacks so they don't touch you.
          Disgusting, isn't it?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i'm not not that obstinate
            if the game requires different tactics i'll do so
            I got them in a sale , I don't want a refund even if I don't end up playing them at all

            You should get a few more points into vigor, and at 50 endurance, you should be able to wear at least a few more pieces of armor while still maintaining light load.

            >50 END
            not anymore , kek
            I put 10 pts into vigor

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >"I'm above shields!"
              >"I'm above summons even when I've been stuck here for several dozen hours!"
              Yes, you are that obstinate.
              Trust me on this one; someone who refuses to explore other viable tactics beyond hitting his head against the wall has no business playing the Niohs. You wasted your money.

              You will remember my words when you make the obligatory thread b***hing about how the first or second boss is filtering you and the game is a piece of shit and you can't simply i-frame everything.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >what's the point of the fight if i did win that easily
                That's like saying you don't want to use the magnum in your hand because it's unfair to the bear about to eat your ass.

                alright that's on me
                but that's how i have been playing all the soul games , using a 2-handed heavy weapon,learning the moveset/openings and timing dodges

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And that's good, stick to your ideals.
                You just have to git gud.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And funnily enough asking strangers for tips and suggestions is still cheating; you're using someone else's talents and experience to get over a hurdle rather than figuring it yourself.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Kind of true, I learned how to dodge the waterfowl dance by trial and error.
                You just have to persevere and keep a clear head.
                >REEEEE DON'T DO THAT THAT IS BAD JUST PRESS THE EASY BUTTON TO WIN

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Hey, you do you. Never be ashamed of living the way you want.
                That said, you are posting on an anonymous image board. It's our obligation to grill you. Take the plunge. Summon the bros!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i'm willing to use a bucler to parry her and that's it

                You're fricking naked you stupid c**t.

                He doesn't want to cheese by using gear. "You didn't beat the game" and all of that.

                no gay it's for the light roll
                also i have a helmet

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You should get a few more points into vigor, and at 50 endurance, you should be able to wear at least a few more pieces of armor while still maintaining light load.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dual wield Chadagon greatswords instead of Gayhander, use R2 to stagger that b***h lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Put some armor on you fricking moron

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >159
      >Can't beat prostitute
      summon me I'll take care of it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Put some fricking armor on since you levelled up END already
      Malenia is prone to getting stunlocked, just run once she jumps and halts in the air (waterfowl combo)
      +25 your main weapon FFS
      Replace that 2nd talisman with something useful like dragoncrest ones to bank on physical defense

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >dragoncrest talisman
        i already did that
        i won't +25 any weapons at all
        i will lose the light roll by putting armor

        >Naked and using the Zweihander and nothing else
        I just realized that OP is one of those morons who got his brain so rotted by Dark Souls 1 that he can't play any other game without relying on that particular game's meta.

        unironically yes
        but being naked has a purpose now

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Summon some fricking help. Ignore the "YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME!!!1" gaytards. They are all tryhard gaystacks with no social interaction skills that are afraid of other people.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      unfortunately, i'm one of those gaytards but for a good reason , i really do enjoy the rhythmic nature of the combat during boss fights
      summoning will turn the fight into a chaotic gangbang and i won't feel good doing
      I'm not looking for help , i'm just crying about it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I see. Then enjoy your suffering, I guess.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I watched a guy take 2999 attempts at her before he beat her. I'm sure you can do it if he did.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i have a fricking job

      [...]
      either that or respec and put 10pts of end into vig, the health will help a lot more than end would at that point

      i did try

      you should wear the bull goat armor, it'll massively help with your defense against her mostly physical damage

      but i lose the light roll which is my main strategy to deal with waterfown
      i already respec'd and got 60 vig and 40 end

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        anon just throw a freezing pot to deal with waterfowl

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no thank you
          i knew the frostbite staggers her out the attack but i rather learn the timing and positioning as anon says

          Kind of true, I learned how to dodge the waterfowl dance by trial and error.
          You just have to persevere and keep a clear head.
          >REEEEE DON'T DO THAT THAT IS BAD JUST PRESS THE EASY BUTTON TO WIN

          Dual wield Chadagon greatswords instead of Gayhander, use R2 to stagger that b***h lol

          i have the greatsword upgraded to +24 but i enjoy the zwei poke more even though it's has a better str scaling

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Just cap vigor to 60 and upgrade the sword, keep trying anon.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              thank you anon

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Not even the fricking pots, of all things
            Now I'm 1000% convinced: stay away from any game that isn't DaS PTDE.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >how dare you not take the easy way out ugh

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My strategy was
    Phase 1: jump + strong attack with dial-wielding giant hammers; she staggers and is vulnerable to a critical hit after three or four hits. It's very important to only attack her with a full stamina bar so you have enough energy to escape. I think it's deliberate given how if you run to the other end of the arena she just walks, giving you time to regenerate your stamina.
    When she used her anime attack, I just switched to the fingerprint shield and block; she earns health back but the stagger + riposte damages her way more. Repeat until she dies.
    Second phase: I just summoned Tiche lol; that phase was just too hard and chaotic to me.

    Worked on both NG and NG+.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i unironically found her 2nd phase easier
      I also don't want to cheese her with summons or use shields

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not even shields? Enjoy retrying that fight forever, I guess.
        And don't even bother with non-From games like a Nioh or a DMC game; refusing to use those games' gameplay mechanics won't get you far or will make the experience boring.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Get nagakiba
    Put on unsheathe
    Play like a b***h and get heavy unsheathes in when she's walking or after an attack.
    If you light roll backwards she can't catch you except with the first attack of the combo.
    If her attacks are too fast for you use one of the steam control layouts that let you roll on button press instead of button release.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Summon some dudes and cheese it. Who are you trying to prove what to? Use the game systems they give you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Summon some dudes and cheese it
      what's the point of the fight if i did win that easily

      unfortunately, i'm one of those gaytards but for a good reason , i really do enjoy the rhythmic nature of the combat during boss fights
      summoning will turn the fight into a chaotic gangbang and i won't feel good doing
      I'm not looking for help , i'm just crying about it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >what's the point of the fight if i did win that easily
        That's like saying you don't want to use the magnum in your hand because it's unfair to the bear about to eat your ass.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kill the Elden Beast, become Elden Lord.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Spam Blasphemous blade special attack.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Humanity didn't evolve to be the dominant species on the whole fricking planet by refusing to use the pointy stick!

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You're fricking naked you stupid c**t.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't want to cheese by using gear. "You didn't beat the game" and all of that.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I did it so you can too, simple as.
    Took me like 6 hours in total

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Using a melee weapon and clothes
      Something something you didn't beat her something something

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Anything that isn't magic or dex is fine in my books.
        Keep seething shitter.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Man this mindset really needs to frick off
    Use the tools the game provides, beating her using only your flaccid dick isn't going to make you feel any better afterwards

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao I'm 225 hours and I'm about to finish my second play through.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    have you tried to stop being a fricking moron and use mimic with two katanas and uplifting perfume like a normal person?

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I was able to beat her and I'm at lvl124.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just give up.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is malenia another shitty berserk reference?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day moron.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Naked and using the Zweihander and nothing else
    I just realized that OP is one of those morons who got his brain so rotted by Dark Souls 1 that he can't play any other game without relying on that particular game's meta.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >naked
      >dark souls 1 meta
      speedtrannies are not meta
      armor is moronicly op in 1 and is the reason why it's now useless

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Use mimic

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All you need to understand to beat her is you can only hit her right after she attacks. Make a habit of instantly running full speed backwards whenever she returns to idle animation, so you are safe in case of waterfowl. The most dogshit boss in history for sure

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >dogshit boss in history for sure
      Coming from the most dogshit player doesn't mean much.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I beat entire game RL1 cope harder

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Malenia, buckbreaker of Miquella

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lol just get the fallingstar beast jaw and spam the weapon art how is that hard?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what's with cheesy methods that Ganker is suggesting
      did any of you beat the game ?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People that play the game for clout or peer pressure just wanting to get it over with as soon as possible

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I sure felt that way once I reached the snowy areas but I still took a six months break before continuing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, I'm a incantation enjoyer.
        I've beat the game plenty.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >still no great fist weapons
    i really need a fist weapon that has a kicks and something to close the gap

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no great fist weapons
      anon, are you on crack again?
      >spiked caestus
      >heavy +25 cragblade
      >60 vigor
      >60 strength
      >80+ poise, armor up
      Enjoy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      fist weapons peaked with ds2
      even the regular punches have no scaling in this game

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