Antagonists that you wanted to win

Antagonists that you wanted to win

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We'd be better off

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >antagonist

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      edgy... you will grow up hopefully eventually. Millions of real lives lost for one man's hubris isnt anything to joke about.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cringe

        Trannies lost
        Chuds won

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          where qa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing that went wrong was when he involved non bullies

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Could he beat kuroiwa?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is some random high school teacher a kung fu master anyway?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        his uncle taught him iirc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        his uncle and he took it more seriously once he started up his plan

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean that's clearly the idea. He's the only Yakuza antagonist who just gets away scot free, obviously because the devs knew damn well that plenty of players would completely agree with him.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mass Effect should have ended with Shepard and everyone else dying in the final push. Reapers win and harvest everyone and everything, fuck off until the next time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The refusal ending exists you know

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's one of the endings. Everyone makes their last stand instead of negotiating and they all die. The next civilization manages to win against the reapers for good due to all the information and technology left behind.

        Which color was it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't a color, IIRC it may have gotten added after release to basically tell the starchild to fuck off and take his options with him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's one of the endings. Everyone makes their last stand instead of negotiating and they all die. The next civilization manages to win against the reapers for good due to all the information and technology left behind.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yagami letting him walk away was so retarded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why?
      the police at the time were infiltrated by the Jap feds who will likely kill him and Yagami would rather see him walk away then get killed by the feds
      the point of there not being enough evidence against Kuwana is debatable though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yagami was fine with Kuroiwa getting executed by cops in the first game, but now he thinks another serial killer’s life is worth protecting?
        >inb4 he didn’t ACTUALLY kill anyone

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kuroiwa was actively attempting to kill someone in front of the police who tried to simply arrest him at first, Yagami couldn't do anything to stop that even if he wanted to
          Kuwana gets away because the police are being controlled by a feds who are actively looking to assassinate Kuwana when they get to him and Yagami doesn't want to help those feds get what they want, even if he thinks Kuwana should see justice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That just makes Yagami look like a fucking idiot because Kuwana could easily kill more people
            LJ really ruined his character

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >abloo blooo Yagami shouldn't have even tried to stop him because Kuwana was right, as even Kaito pointed out when he asked "Are you sure you're on the right side this time?"
              >abloo bloo Yagami should have stopped Kuwana no matter what despite the morally grey nature of their antagonistic relationship being the point of the game
              you tards don't know what you want

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ganker is one person
                I wanted Kuwana to face some kind of justice, if that means some glowies killing him why should I care? He’s a fucking serial killer not some tragic antihero.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, he was literally portrait as a tragic antihero, which is the whole basis of the conflict of Yagami still wanting justice by bringing him in. I think you're just retarded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dude he’s a tragic hero for torturing and murdering people because they are…le bullies!
                I really don’t understand how people can worship him, Yagami being conflicted about this at all is just bad writing to force some kind of drama. A serial killer’s motivations don’t matter, their monstrous actions do.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the entire point of the game flew over your head. It's pretty impressive because the story is REALLY straightforward.
                My condolences on your brain, I guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’re defending bad writing because of surface level ambiguity that doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny. Embarrassing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're calling everything you don't understand because of severe crippling autism 'bad' (and that must be most things to you). Embarrassing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s clear from how defensive you are that you’re a fanboy that has to excuse everything Yagami and Kuwana do despite it making zero moral or logical sense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's clear that you have autism and even when a work of fiction CLEARLY spells out a person's motivations and reasoning you still can't "get" it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's not fucking rocket science, autismbro.
                The two sides presented are:
                -Ends justify the means
                -Ends do not justify the means
                and the game does not tell you which one you personally should believe. Some characters show more deference to the former, Yagami follows the latter.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yagami follows the latter
                Except at the last second when he lets Kuwana walk away to go commit more murders.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you go take a piss at the end of the game? He had no choice. He had no proof or evidence against him, Kusumoto was already taking the fall, and only because he is not there to be Soma's scapegoat is Soma arrested.
                Retardbro?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also Kuwana is affected by Yagami to some degree, and tells the police the location of all the bodies despite it meaning he now has to dip to China and give up on Japan for the time being.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he had no choice but to let the serial killer walk away when he knew the glowies would have taken care of him
                The blood of all of Kuwana’s future victims will be on Yagami’s hands, you can’t defend this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you want him to kill him or something? So the exact same shit you're crying about?
                Bro, I was memeing but I think you actually are retarded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yagami didn’t have to kill him he knew other people would do that for him, Yagami has no obligation to protect Kuwana when he knows he is a threat to the public.

                He took a chance that Kuwana might not murder more people and changed for the better after everything. And the scenes after shows that Kuwana gave up the locations of his other victims, showing he did change.

                Taking that chance at all was retarded, and who’s to say Kuwana won’t change his mind again the future?
                Kuwana still deserves to answer for his crimes either way, better that he dies than just gets let go scott free.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yagami didn’t have to kill him he knew other people would do that for him
                fucking wat lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He took a chance that Kuwana might not murder more people and changed for the better after everything. And the scenes after shows that Kuwana gave up the locations of his other victims, showing he did change.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think he "took a chance", though. He gave a big ass speech about the law and its workings, and BY THE LAW and its workings, he had no choice but to let Kuwana walk. You could tell he was frustrated by his ending spiel, and that "I will never stop!" line.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He took a chance that Kuwana might not murder more people and changed for the better after everything. And the scenes after shows that Kuwana gave up the locations of his other victims, showing he did change.

                >I really don’t understand how people can worship him
                Were you just not paying attention at all? His actions are favored because he's fighting injustice. The justice system refuses to punish the people driving kids to suicide because they're underage and even if it does punish them it's a slap on the wrist compared to if an adult were to get a kid to kill himself even if the bullies understood exactly what they were doing and how much they were torturing the kid until it led them to suicide. People relate to Kuwana wanting to get that justice.

                Have you never questioned why The Punisher is one of the more popular Marvel characters? He murders entire armies of people, sometimes for thought crimes, sometimes for actual crimes, sometimes for heinous crimes. He murders people who the justice system can't get to legally or have corrupted the justice system.

                Kuwana is in the wrong. He murders a bunch of random people, many of which who have tried to move on from the scenarios. He murders for his own vanity rather than justice as evidenced by him still murdering people who the parents don't want to kill/have forgiven. He's a hypocrite as he was willing to write off Sawa's death and actively let Yagami nearly get killed multiple times, one of them almost by his own hand (The ship explosion), just to enact his own means.
                The game shows you that Yagami's actions are what Kuwana should have done.

                [...]
                Did you forget that Yagami isn't a cold-blooded murderer and they spent multiple chapters setting up that Yagami had nothing on Kuwana because all the evidence pointed to his students murdering them? Yagami wants to bring Kuwana in by the books but he can't because Kuwana is manipulating the very legal system Yagami wants to uphold. The entire game beats you over the head that the law isn't 100% just and very flawed and that Yagami understands that but is willing to accept having to let Kuwana go to uphold the justice he believes in and wants to make better.

                Also, wouldn't the glowies just have disappeared his ass while he sat in a cell? Without any proof, the police couldn't hold him long but the higher ups would've certainly killed him. It wasn't just mustache man after him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Moose

                >I really don’t understand how people can worship him
                Were you just not paying attention at all? His actions are favored because he's fighting injustice. The justice system refuses to punish the people driving kids to suicide because they're underage and even if it does punish them it's a slap on the wrist compared to if an adult were to get a kid to kill himself even if the bullies understood exactly what they were doing and how much they were torturing the kid until it led them to suicide. People relate to Kuwana wanting to get that justice.

                Have you never questioned why The Punisher is one of the more popular Marvel characters? He murders entire armies of people, sometimes for thought crimes, sometimes for actual crimes, sometimes for heinous crimes. He murders people who the justice system can't get to legally or have corrupted the justice system.

                Kuwana is in the wrong. He murders a bunch of random people, many of which who have tried to move on from the scenarios. He murders for his own vanity rather than justice as evidenced by him still murdering people who the parents don't want to kill/have forgiven. He's a hypocrite as he was willing to write off Sawa's death and actively let Yagami nearly get killed multiple times, one of them almost by his own hand (The ship explosion), just to enact his own means.
                The game shows you that Yagami's actions are what Kuwana should have done.

                >Yagami follows the latter
                Except at the last second when he lets Kuwana walk away to go commit more murders.

                Did you forget that Yagami isn't a cold-blooded murderer and they spent multiple chapters setting up that Yagami had nothing on Kuwana because all the evidence pointed to his students murdering them? Yagami wants to bring Kuwana in by the books but he can't because Kuwana is manipulating the very legal system Yagami wants to uphold. The entire game beats you over the head that the law isn't 100% just and very flawed and that Yagami understands that but is willing to accept having to let Kuwana go to uphold the justice he believes in and wants to make better.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day Moose I don’t care how corrupt a system is there is no justification for ever willingly letting a serial killer go.
                You can worry about reforming the system after the dangerous killer is incapacitated to stop him harming anyone else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so...you want Yagami.... to break the law...to stop the guy....breaking the law...?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WE'RE BREAKING ZA RAWWWWWWWWWWW

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Break the law how? By letting him be arrested? Whatever the glowies do to him wouldn’t involve him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how do you 'let' him 'get arrested'? You're telling us Yagami should've just killed him, because he certainly wasn't going to be like "Yeah bro, I'll just wait right here for the glowies to kill me"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >knock him out or restrain him somehow
                >present him to the police and explain everything that happened, with testimonies from other witnesses and other evidence easily corroborating it
                It wouldn’t be hard at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                knock him out how? Magic? Fucking retard. And then what? Yagami would be responsible for his death at that point and for nothing because nobody had ANYTHING on Kuwana. It would've made Yagami a hypocrite on three counts.
                Thank FUCK you don't write stories.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I wrote this story I wouldn’t have ever placed Yagami in such a retarded moral dilemma to begin with. You’re literally defending a serial killer going free because somehow killing him would be a bad thing, is this just because you hate bullies that much? lmao grow up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Moose

                >You can worry about reforming the system after the dangerous killer is incapacitated to stop him harming anyone else.
                Tell me, what are you going to arrest him on? How can you prove he's a serial killer? How can you prove you were killing a serial killer? How can you justify murdering him with no proof to anyone?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not saying Yagami should directly kill him you retard(though that would still be preferable to LETTING A FUCKING SERIAL KILLER WALK AWAY).
                What evidence did they have? Would the testimony of Yagami, Kaito, Soma, and everyone else in that warehouse not be enough to at least detain him while an investigation occurs? I swear you Kuwana cocksuckers have no understanding of how law enforcement actually works.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

                >at least detain him while an investigation occurs?
                and then he gets GLOWIE'D, no trial, no justice. You know, the same exact thing Yagami lectured about for 10 minutes in that scene?
                And you want him to directly lead to Kuwana's death the same way Yagami blamed him and Rekio for Sawa?
                fucking retard lmao

                Better that than even risking Kuwana killing more people. Do you cry every time a cop shoots a dangerous criminal?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >at least detain him while an investigation occurs?
                and then he gets GLOWIE'D, no trial, no justice. You know, the same exact thing Yagami lectured about for 10 minutes in that scene?
                And you want him to directly lead to Kuwana's death the same way Yagami blamed him and Rekio for Sawa?
                fucking retard lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just want to bring up that Yagami's actor is also the main character in a movie with the exact same themes as this, Killing for the Prosecution. It's really good, worth a watch.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The game shows you that Yagami's actions are what Kuwana should have done.

                If he did what Yagami did, the bullies responsible for the deaths would've gotten away scot free. Let's not forget that one of them went on to become a teacher who bullies his own students and was implied to be grooming one of them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Moose

                >the bullies responsible for the deaths would've gotten away scot free
                That's the problem that you're going to have to deal with to work towards a solution.
                >one of them went on to become a teacher who bullies his own students and was implied to be grooming one of them.
                Which would have instantly destroyed his career if Sawa, Toshiro, or even Koda ended up blabbing.

                If Kuwana fought for laws that forced transparency in schools and allowed students to come forward to the police anonymously to accuse the schools of things like that that would already solve several issues. It would have let people like Toshiro submit a complaint without his father having to know about it. If he fought for more advocacy it would have allowed students to be more privvy to what was right and what was not in terms of stopping bullying. If he fought for harsher punishments for students that clearly knew what they were doing when bullying someone that severely or even to the point of suicide he would have gotten somewhere.

                There will always be corrupt and bad people, but Kuwana's actions did jack and shit to stop bullying and suicide-related bullying. All it did was kill some people and ruin his and a bunch of other people's lives including someone who was fighting internal Japanese corruption.

                You’re really underestimating how easy it is for someone to get arrested, especially based on multiple accusations and under suHispanicious circumstances like the massive fight in the warehouse.
                My point is that Yagami shouldn’t cry over glowies killing Kuwana because it is the lesser of two evils compared to letting him go, when you work in that field you should expect to have to make a hard choice like that to save more lives in the future.

                >because it is the lesser of two evils compared to letting him go
                Which Yagami doesn't care about. He wants justice to be served legally and in a way he can live with. There is nothing Yagami could have done to put him away, and he wasn't going to let someone get murdered. Yagami wanted to put Kuwana away by the books to show that while the legal system is flawed it still can work, it's why he fought so hard against RK and the government. He also wanted to show Kuwana that his method was massively flawed through his actions which he did. It's why Kuwana even agrees to a lot of what Yagami is saying in the end arguments and why he even releases the bodies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meanwhile, many more students will take their lives and the authorities will continue to look the other way and ignore the cause because change won't happen overnight in a corrupt society. Kuwana's actions, while drastic, is a necessary evil in order to expedite the process of change for the sake of potential future victims of bullying.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                serial killers dont kill bullies

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no he’s not a serial killer because I don’t like the people he kills
                Are you a child?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s obvious you’re a cuck who is a slave to muh authority and the bullshit justice system.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't you forgetting about Sawa-sensei OP?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he literally saw Emi Terasawa in her. He felt guilt over bringing her into things, and anger that the ones responsible glossed it over.
      Do autists just not get that or something? This retard place is the only place I see cry about that plot point.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kuwana might be indirectly responsible for her death, but Yagami blaming the Vice Minister for it for what she did years ago made no fucking sense at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally did nothing wrong, that bitch teacher had it coming since she was part of the coverup and I don't see why they kept playing her death up as such a bad thing.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If he wins then Sawa-sensei loses.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Muh Sawa Sensei

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all he wanted was to explore the world with his nephew.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally did nothing wrong, that bitch teacher had it coming since she was part of the coverup and I don't see why they kept playing her death up as such a bad thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Moose

      >and I don't see why they kept playing her death up as such a bad thing.
      Because when she was going to start speaking up they murdered her and it's entirely because she realized who Kuwana was? The entire reason why Yagami keeps bringing her up is because Kuwana refused to acknowledged that RK was on her because she realized who Kuwana was and what he was doing. Kuwana refuses to even accept that he let an innocent die in his pursuit for "Getting justice for innocents" and then proceeds to try getting Yagami killed like four times while saying he's trying to get justice for innocent people.

      I’m not saying Yagami should directly kill him you retard(though that would still be preferable to LETTING A FUCKING SERIAL KILLER WALK AWAY).
      What evidence did they have? Would the testimony of Yagami, Kaito, Soma, and everyone else in that warehouse not be enough to at least detain him while an investigation occurs? I swear you Kuwana cocksuckers have no understanding of how law enforcement actually works.

      >knock him out or restrain him somehow
      >present him to the police and explain everything that happened, with testimonies from other witnesses and other evidence easily corroborating it
      It wouldn’t be hard at all.

      You realize you're asking for him to just get assassinated, right? The very thing Yagami was actively ranting about in the ending and vehemently against doing the entire game? The Japanese government was looking to get him killed so the instant he gets arrested he commits suicide with two bullets to the back of the head.
      You also realize not a single person in his class or Yagami's crew has any actual proof of what they're saying, right? Every single body dating back a decade has the fingerprints of his students who never went to the police at any point whereas he's spotless, and all they have to go on compared to hard evidence is a bunch of randos who have been meeting with the students recently and his students who have been covering up a bunch of murders for a decade saying that Kuwana did it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She deserved it
        She's not an innocent
        She was an active participant of the coverup

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If Sawa sensei didn't die, would Yagami even have the resolve to see the case to the end?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You’re really underestimating how easy it is for someone to get arrested, especially based on multiple accusations and under suHispanicious circumstances like the massive fight in the warehouse.
        My point is that Yagami shouldn’t cry over glowies killing Kuwana because it is the lesser of two evils compared to letting him go, when you work in that field you should expect to have to make a hard choice like that to save more lives in the future.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    personally I would have just shot Kuwana

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    letting Kuwana walk free then tell the police about the other killed bullies was the game admitting no one had a good answer for the question either way

    but this is too difficult for 15 year old chan to grasp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a radical centrist take.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Moose

      >was the game admitting no one had a good answer for the question either way
      But the game did have a good answer to the question. Why do you think they had Koda befriending her own bullies and being an active act in saving someone else from falling down that path?

      The message the game had was that Kuwana's method is an extreme that doesn't address the core issues of the problem and simply picks off the weeds as they grow. All it does is bring other people into your ego trip and actively ruin their lives to get revenge without stopping it from happening in the first place. Kuwana even has this delusional thought that by releasing the bodies it would scare students into not bullying anyone because it might get them killed when the entire story shows you that no one in Seiryo cared at all outside of being sad their teacher/students died.

      Yagami's methods ended up stopping a bullying epidemic in Seiryo by him actively participating in the MRC and as a simple person talking to a bunch of the students. It also brings up multiple times that nothing Kuwana does solves anything. All it does is have him directly ruining the lives of other people. He never stopped for one minute to become a government representative using his story as a teacher who failed his student to help other students by fighting for stronger laws, he never tried making a suicide hotline, he never advocated for anything.

      She deserved it
      She's not an innocent
      She was an active participant of the coverup

      >She was an active participant of the coverup
      Who was going to blab after Yagami barely prodded her a few times because of how much guilt she had over doing that. It's why she even tells Yagami anything on the rooftop in the first place.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Who was going to blab after Yagami barely prodded her a few times
        How many years later? And what did she do during the actual trial, when it actually mattered?
        She deserved it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Moose

          >How many years later?
          A year?
          >And what did she do during the actual trial, when it actually mattered?
          She was threatened into silence by having her entire life upended and ruined if she spoke the truth because she had zero proof of anything she was saying due to internal corruption. Not everyone is a bastion of humanity and is able to screw themselves over for justice, but even with her it was eating at her inside which is why she ends up confiding in Yagami and willing to end her career as a teacher just to make things right.
          >She deserved it.
          She deserved what, getting killed by a secret government organization because she stumbled upon the fact that Kuwana was a serial killer which could have ended up revealing that he knew who Reiko was and that he helped Reiko kill someone thus destroying her career as a politician? Because that's why she ended up getting killed.

          Kuwana might be indirectly responsible for her death, but Yagami blaming the Vice Minister for it for what she did years ago made no fucking sense at all.

          He was trying to show Reiko that by helping Kuwana stay in the dark and keep killing it would just lead to more and more people like Sawa getting their lives killed to justify his ego and enact some parent's revenge which was completely true as shown to us by Yagami nearly getting killed and all his students either dying or getting pseudo-framed for murders.

          Meanwhile, many more students will take their lives and the authorities will continue to look the other way and ignore the cause because change won't happen overnight in a corrupt society. Kuwana's actions, while drastic, is a necessary evil in order to expedite the process of change for the sake of potential future victims of bullying.

          Except, as the game showed, it did none of that. He ruined a bunch of his student's lives, he ended up being the cause of Sawa's death, and he caused Reiko to lose a promising position exposing Japanese corruption meaning she could have taken down Daidoji and his men's operations to some degree.
          No one was worried about some bully serial killer, they were sad about people at their school being continuously murdered. Kuwana releasing the bodies isn't even mentioned in The Kaito Files that's how little Kuwana's actions mattered. The trial did nothing but show some dad trying to make a mockery of the judicial system, it did nothing to bring his son's plight to the masses as evidenced by no one talking about it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            autist

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and he caused Reiko to lose a promising position exposing Japanese corruption meaning she could have taken down Daidoji and his men's operations to some degree.

            Let's just blame Kuwana for that and not Public Security who were the scumbags who wanted to blackmail her in the first place. I swear, Yagami spent way more time being mad at everyone BUT the people who were actually directly involved with Sawa sensei's death. No wonder it's such a huge fucking meme.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Moose

              Of course Public Security is also at fault. It's both their fault and Kuwana's fault. PS's for doing everything in the first place and Kuwana for allowing Sawa to become a dispensable pawn he doesn't even think about after she died until Yagami brought up why she died to him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By Yagami's logic, he's also responsible for Shintani's death in the first game because the Mole wouldn't have killed him if Yagami didn't pursue the case further.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Moose

                Yagami's also responsible for Sawa's death because he started digging and uprooted a lot of the truth.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Short list of people who are to blame for Sawa-sensei's death and should feel guilty about it:
    >everyone but Soma

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    same but him in nioh 2

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kuroiwa<soma

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally Yagami's argument

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cop is a serial killer
    >serial killer is a cop
    whats next?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The new Vice Minister of Health is a serial killer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cop is a cop
      >serial killer is a serial killer

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