Any Dark Souls lore expert here can explain the ending to me?

Any Dark Souls lore expert here can explain the ending to me?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dude fire go crackle thwip

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's tough after Elden Ring since DS is clearly in the post-Frenzied Flame timeline

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you link the fire

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >link the fire
      what does that even mean

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you continued the cycle of the age of fire.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    (you) listened to a worm and killed an old guy. now you have his job forever until someone kicks your ass, unless you ended the universe.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is that the version with the Black person?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Link Fire
    World prospers for another ten thousand years of civilization until the fire begins to fade once more
    >Don't Link Fire
    Whatever the frick the age of dark means. Very sus that all the worms bow to you and I don't trust it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There must be some races that thrive in the dark. I'm thinking about those big locust preacher guys from the ringed city dlc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Humanity has no one but themselves steering the wheel

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dark Souls lore expert

    you mean fanfic specialist?
    there is no real logic on all of from's games, barring sekiro (and barely). Don't give a frick tho, they're still great.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. brainlet

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter which one you picked, you get israeliteed by serpents

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ending is purposefully irrelevant as the serpents controlled the linking either way. You are supposed to play the third game to follow up on the story and understand it by completing the secret ending. Just remember that your character in Dark Souls canonically linked the fire with the cover set (Elite Knight armor).
    The serpents want a fueled Fire, but to twist it into something else, and in the first game they push undead to link the Fire specifically to delay the Age of Dark, since in reality they are interested in creating another Age entirely instead

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You were not the chosen one, the prophecy was constructed by Gwyn’s pantheon to hopefully embolden some hollow enough to prevent their hollowing while leaving them a breadcrumb trail to follow to fulfill Gwyn’s goal of extending the age of fire and preserving his legacy longer. You sacrifice yourself to the flame, rekindling it and bringing on another long age of the status quo. The issue being, itll fade again, and this entire problem will just come about again, because the entire civilization he helped construct is built on sand, and is inherently impermanent. In the alternate ending, you embrace the inevitability of the fading of the flame, and give in to whatever it is that comes next, understanding fighting against it is like trying to run from death, and that clinging to the age of fire is hopeless because it will eventually have to end. However, whatever the age of dark actually represents for humanity is unknown to anyone, and left open to interpretation.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still no port of II or III

    What are the odds the switch II will be the missing entrys & Elden Ring?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You either cast yourself to the flame, burning your powered up soul and the the souls of the lords to extend the age of fire as Gwyn once did.
    However it is temporary and fleeting and the fire will die again. Alternatively you can kill Gwyn and not link the fire, becoming Dark Lord, which is implied to be a role where you basically let the world go dark and prevent others from rekindling the flame.

    The Dark is shown to be destructive, mutagenic and cannibalistic in nature, especially towards beings not of it. For humans who embrace their humanity, it appears survivable albeit you may be some sort of twisted shade like the 4 kings.

    The Third game does a bit better of a job showing you that the Dark isn't ideal but isn't just straight up "end of existence" like many thought during DaS.

    Either way, DaS III heavily implies that if you do the Dark Ending in 1, some homosexual will eventually kill you and relight the fire. I used to be a smug Dark Ending anon until the third game did that to me. But the third game is great revenge since You fail to actually rekindle the fire if you burn yourself in DaS III

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >getting cold
    >set self on fire
    >warm for the rest of your life

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After filling the lordvessel and linking the flame, would the next undead just need to self-immolate to continue linking the flame, or do they still require absorbing powerful souls?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They'd have to one up that undead somehow. By DaS III there are hardly enough powerful beings left which is why the Bell brings back former lords of Cinder.

      DaS was just a collection call on the Lord Souls that haven't been burned, which is why the restored flame is massive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You still need powerful souls. They're basically just kindling, and they get consumed for the fire. It's also got diminishing effects each time, like that other anon said.

        Damn, you practically eradicate all the powerful beings in lordran, where did the past lords of cinders get all those souls.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We don't know about lords of cinder beyond the ones you fight in the game but
          >Abyss watchers
          They somehow figured out how to unify their souls into one with a blood pact.
          This sounds like a reasonable way to achieve a very powerful soul by just linking together the souls of those who join your ranks. The pact is probably some sort of extension of Artoria's abyss pact but applied to every member. It was enough to make them viable.
          >Saint Aldrich
          He's a cannibal and its implied his slime state was achieved by consuming human dregs while devouring the flesh of his human victims. He's basically an alternate form of what the 4kings became and I imagine this ascended state made him very ripe for burning.
          >Yhorme
          He's a Giant, he probably has a big soul to start with and it's implied he did a lot of "great deeds" before trying to stop the Profaned Flame.
          >Ludlith
          He's a pygmy lord and probably possessed a very strong shard of the dark soul
          >Lothric and Lorian.
          Lothric is stated to be bred to be a prime candidate to link the fire.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He's a Giant, he probably has a big soul to start with and it's implied he did a lot of "great deeds" before trying to stop the Profaned Flame.
            He didn't try to stop anything, the linking actually brought ruin as the Profaned Flame resonated as Darkness grew

            >He's a pygmy lord and probably possessed a very strong shard of the dark soul
            No, the only reason he linked the fire was Souls transposition, the true fuel was the ring he carries.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              AKCHUALLY with Yhorme it says on his ash that he linked the fire to stop the Profaned Flame but legend held him as the cause of it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, the Profaned Flame is Dark Flame
                the notion that liniing the Fire would stop it was wrong because the more the Fire is linked the stronger the Fire gets

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That part about the abyss watchers sounds really cool.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Abyss Watchers are very cool. By the events of DS3 they're stuck fighting and killing each other forever to prevent the abyss that contaminated them from getting out into the world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You still need powerful souls. They're basically just kindling, and they get consumed for the fire. It's also got diminishing effects each time, like that other anon said.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can keep the first flame lit as Gwyn did or embrace the darkness and let the abyss creatures take over Lordran as a lord of darkness. You don't even need to read any dialogue to understand that. The giant creature in Firelink Shrine is helping you for a good reason. New Londo ruins was the gateway to that crap and had to be flooded to prevent the abyss to keep growing. And guess what? It lies directly below Firelink.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Link the fire and the god's order in the world will continue but man is still subservient to them or don't link the fire and man gets his freedom but has to deal with all the horror the god's were trying to prevent anyway. There's no right answer here.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >YOU WILL BE UNDEAD
    >YOU WILL LINK THE FLAME
    >YOU WILL BECOME ASH
    >LINK THE FLAME CHUD

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Think of it as if you're "the chosen one" a messianic figure who is part of of a royal bloodline, similar to the Jesus Holy Grail bloodline. Like Zeus killing his father Saturn he finds out his father is a Demiurgic/Saturnian father figure whom he must kill to perpetuate the cycle depending on which ending you pick.

    The thousand year reign that Gwyn rules is akin to the thousand year reign of Christ or of the Third Reich, this is has to be related to astrology and the general cycles of civilizations but that is another discussion. Your destiny is to keep the "fire" of humanity going until the cycle ends (Ragnarok/Kali Yuga/Revelations) and a new golden age emerges. A purification process from a decaying age, which is arguably the potential birth of a new earth and the destruction of the present earth. Pretty much all the souls games have this theme.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funny, but all Souls games have the theme that keeping the cycle going will get shittier and shittier, and new things should be tried.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2 and 3 show places that succumbed to darkness and they're worse off than lordran

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >keeping the cycle going will get shittier and shittier, and new things should be tried.
        That's absolutely right. We can't just perpetuate the same cycle expecting it to work over time. Time steals everything, everything degrades, rots. You can even see it as a meta narrative on game development or storytelling in general, which is especially obvious in 3's DLC.
        That's why an alternative needs to be sought. Or, let things rest for a while before restarting the cycle so it can sustain itself longer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's a pessimistic take from Miyazaki but that is the nature of cycles. Its highest peaks leads to the lowest of low eventually, until the real end of the cycle happens.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"We should try something new instead of doing the same thing over and over again."
          >Pessimistic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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