AoE2 won. It fucking won.

Why/How did AoE2 win the RTS genre?

>C&C faded into obscurity
>Blizzard somehow managed to kill the "unkillable" StarCraft
>barely anyone plays WC3 anymore and it was only popular for custom games, anyway
>despite its massive success and being the reason AoE2 was developed, AoE1 was quickly eclipsed by AoE2, yet AoE3 and AoE4 have never surpassed AoE2
>all other RTS games never really grew large communities and can therefore be ignored

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it's just so pleasant to play and easy to understand quickly

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Great balance between economy and military, great campaigns, fun to play on a casual level and still possible to be really sweaty about it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      nailed it
      also, godly artstyle and audio.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      nailed it
      also, godly artstyle and audio.

      These
      Great gameplay, great aesthetics, almost no skill floor, massive skill ceiling.

      AoE2 is the closest thing to a perfect RTS in existence and arguably a perfect game.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame because Rise of Nations is objectively the better historical RTS.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It does everything right in terms of gameplay, and it's based on real-life history, so it has lasting appeal because everything it's based on will never change and is constantly relatable to every historic period and culture depicted within it.
    It transcends the shallow juvenility of franchise IPs by doing this. This is why it has outlasted SC & all others.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it's on sale, should I buy it even if i'm only going to play single player?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i like the campaigns, but im aoe2 whore so whadoi know

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I would say yes, there is a ton of single player content, between campaigns, historical battles and skirmish (vs AI)
      also the map editor is really good, so there is a ton of user made content

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      aoe2 is mainly a singleplayer game, only a tiny fraction play multiplayer and not even all of those play competitive multiplayer

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I've had AoE2 since the original release and to be honest, the only time I ever played online was when I was playing with friends. 99% of my thousands of hours was skirmish vs AI.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    One thing that keeps SC from being good and cursing it to fade into obscurity is the refusal by the fanbase to allow any changes that would objectively improve the game because they are scared shitless they might have to adapt their playstlyle after 20 years. Even just the idea of better AI pathfinding or better hot ground keys is forbidden, let alone new units that could actually balance out the gameplay. So it's basically just a moron clicker at this point, that only a dwindling korean population cares about (and even they have started to switch over to AoE2). Meanwhile AoE2 still gets expansion packs and updates.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why do retards who have never played Starcraft pretend to understand it?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you have to make a strawman to argue against?

        You know that if back in 1999 they released a patch with better pathfinding where units would simply move out of the way to let other AI through instead of just bottlenecking, everyone would be down for it. Now such a simple idea is taboo to the dying playbase. Not even someone like Tasteless can make a living off SC in Korean anymore because of how dead it is becoming. Meanwhile, AoE2 is thriving and koreans are moving to it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Why push for changes to a game you wouldn't play regardless? The Brood War fans like it as it is, whatever, let them.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            This is a interesting question. You assume people wouldn't play it because of improvements while also it would alienate their old fans. Yet AoE2 proves that that assumption false. Talented players adapt and new fans come for new content which keeps the whole thing fresh and everyone benefits.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Not people, I mean you. You don't play it, and you wouldn't play it. So why care about changing it?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >a patch with better pathfinding where units would simply move out of the way to let other AI through instead of just bottlenecking
          This would make the game so much fucking worse, anyone who actually plays the game will tell you that much
          >b-but people who didn't know how to play the game in 1999 would have liked it
          You just reinforce my point

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >despite its massive success and being the reason AoE2 was developed, AoE1 was quickly eclipsed by AoE2
    2 more weeks till AoE1chads RETVRN to put you back in your place

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Rome/Egypt in AoE2
      ERECTUS

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      How does this work anyway? Are we going to get these civs aged up to a more appropriate time period or is it literally AoE1?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's the latter. AoE1 ported directly into AOE2

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's just using the updated engine, but the civs are all AoE1 civs and can only be played against AoE1 civs. But you get much better pathfinding and map generation.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So how long till mods break those restrictions and let me mash Aztecs and Egyptions into each other?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I'd imagine not very long

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      MY DICK
      IS DIAMONDS

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'm genuinely coming back to AoE2 just for this. Took a break for a good while and missed out on some of the previous additions, but porting AoE1 into it has me hyped. Is it going to be all the civs from AoE1 or just the 3 on the cover?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >In the ‘fifth’ and last recorded year of the Annals, the king [Hattusili] returned to Syria. This campaign was a much more ambitious, far-reaching one than his earlier foray across the Taurus. Declaring himself to be like a lion on the rampage, Hattusili led his troops through Syria in an orgy of destruction and plunder as one city after another fell before his arms. Wagon after wagon was laden with the plunder of the cities and lands he destroyed, their palaces and temples and other places stripped of their statues and furniture and items of gold and silver and other precious materials, for transport back to Hattusa. The king was merciless in victory, repaying the courage of two of the local rulers who had defended their cities to the bitter end by harnessing them to one of the wagons laden with their cities’ spoils. Like beasts of burden, they were made to haul the wagon back to their conqueror’s capital. Hattusili gloated over their fate.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      How does this work anyway? Are we going to get these civs aged up to a more appropriate time period or is it literally AoE1?

      I think it's the latter. AoE1 ported directly into AOE2

      It's just using the updated engine, but the civs are all AoE1 civs and can only be played against AoE1 civs. But you get much better pathfinding and map generation.

      Hopefully they add some QoL features from AoE2, too. I don't want it to die like AoE:DE.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I bought both AoE this past steam sale. I was planning on starting with the first one, but my pc struggled really fucking hard with it just by looking at a couple of trees. Tried AoE2 out of curiosity and the benchmarks were locked 60fps with bazillions troops on screen (with the hd pack enabled). I welcome the dlc, I will be able to play the first one after all.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I suggest you download the Gold edition and use UPatch

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >makes the dockyard a swastika

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            dock of peace

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't even know this was a thing thanks anon

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think smaller ratio of unit size to map size really helps. Even on the largest map starcraft units are rather big compared to aoe

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >win the RTS genre

    unless AoE2 is codeword for Company of Heroes, they didnt

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >reskin AOE2
    >Add shields and aircrafts
    >It's still good

    And episode 3 expansion pack would have been great.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Wish the unit pathing wasn't so retarded though

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why/How did AoE2 win the RTS genre?
    Pretty simple. The genre died years ago, so the few people who were still clutching onto it kept playing the same old games.
    Microsoft eventually saw a business opportunity here since they owned the franchise. First they released the rather bad HD edition that's little more than a widescreen mod and a couple of modded civs, but later they launched the definitive edition that's everything the fans wanted. It's a very rare case of a remaster actually improving upon the original.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How is Age of Mythology? Should I wait for the remaster?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun and has an actual story but don't expect AoE2 levels of quality. Also the chink DLC is dismal, skip it.

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