this, the most enjoyable things about warcraft are warcraft 3 along with it's lore manual that I read through multiple times, and world of warcrafts music.
Anyone who pretends that WoW lore was ever good at any point never played a Warcraft game. Butchering the story into only two factions makes no sense for anyone that actually liked the real lore on top of dumb shit like undead holy priests/draenei retcon/all of the shitty books like for garona
The franchise is called Warcraft, retard. Everything was built on top of the war. Was is stupid? Yes, but it was entertaining.
If anything I don't understand you gays who claim to like the game, yet to enjoy it need to purposefully ignore huge chunks of it. All for what? A glorified hamster wheel?
For me? It's the severe lack of slut armor. For a bunch of degenerates it's surprising they haven't had good slut pieces. At least they updated the barbershop to let you change your sex and shit for free instead of the 40 bucks they used to charge, I got to convert some of my female toons to male.
The game looks like a gay pixar shit N64 game and most "armors" are just painted on skin. You can't make slut armor with a 25 year old engine like that.
The lore was perpetually destroyed every new iteration. But the Chronicles books really set the highest standard of how to make sens of the WC universe. It's a shame that they were retconned instantly.
>Be Tank >Do KSH >Never had fun once >Quit
I still don't understand why I did it but I don't have ANY fond memories of season 1. The timer, the green-parsing shitters who think they're good, the dungeons itself... I don't know. Anyone who thinks that M+ is peak content should be taken behind the shed and get shot.
Dead game. Every single worthwhile aspect of the game has been destroyed, queues take forever, most guilds are dead and the content has never been worse. There are no redeeming quality left unless you're a sodomite or chud looking to play a game with explicit ingame representation of your kind
I thought people were saying this is the first decent expansion since MoP or even Legion? I keep seeing that repeated everywhere, and haven't really seen a lot of people shitting on it. I'm still too scared to ever play a Blizzard product again because they rugpull their player base so often. Overwatch 2 recently just continues this line.
>I thought people were saying this is the first decent expansion since MoP or even Legion? I keep seeing that repeated everywhere
Yeah. That's the cope, and since nobody is playing the game outside of the hard-stockholmed twats who would keep playing even if it was another Shadowlands, only their narrative really exists.
it's just cope after 2 disastrous wow expacs in a row, i'll assume dflight is shit too because pvp is already dead. At least that's what my friends who still play are telling me, it's S4 of shitolands level of dead.
The raid and m+ any good? That's all I did anyway for modern WoW.... I honestly haven't been a huge fan of WoW ever since like Wrath, a lot of the magic of the game is just gone and the lore isn't interesting. It's so hard to get excited for anything new from Blizzard anymore.
M+ is pretty mediocre, they brought back some of the older dungeons people liked from previous xpacs but the new ones from DF this rotation are cancerously long for m+, no idea about the raid I gave up on raiding in WoW when I was tired of doing it as a part time job for no pay in BFA
Don't fall for that rethoric. It being the first decent expansion since Legion by no means it means it was as good as Legion. It just means that SL and BfA were that bad.
chudflight just shows how Blizzard knows they can not give a shit because the drones will happily eat everything they put in the table and ask for seconds.
WoW is possibly the single most pathetic game people still obsess over and it's actually sad how many thousands of hours of life is wasted on standing on a tile pressing the same sequence of keys over and over and over and moving a few pixels every time the ground changes colour. I have a "friend" who whines about being supposedly busy and not having time then he goes and sits for 4 hours every second day fighting the same boss with the same people and the same moves. I'm actually convinced WoW is a haven for individuals with Asperger's or high functioning autism. The obsessive compulsive repetition of it all is shocking to me. I just honestly don't get it.
It's because he's in a guild that makes him show up in order to obtain gear for the raid team, for the next challenge. It's all about the race. That's the fun part. Being the top dawgz on the server. The absolute worst part of raiding is the monotony after you've already finished the current content.
So he's wasting hundreds of hours of his supposedly already limited time so that he can brag to other autistics about pixels on a screen? And then it all resets every few months? That's mental.
it still throws me off in Other Game when everybody just brushes themselves off and apologizes for fucking up if something happens and party-destroying autism attacks are very, very rare
I've had a healer get really toxic toward the tank and both the tank and other dps were shit talking him all the way through the rest of the dungeon. also whenever I played tank everyone was toxic toward me for being bad
>tank pulls wall to wall like normal since dungeons are a meme >healer has an autism attack because they can't handle their 2 button rotation and rage quits
Healers in XIV are actual subhumans this happens every 4 or 5 dungeons I do.
>giving a shit about the opinions of a potato
Potato players are the subhumans of XIV. Good thing there is a mod to change potato morons into generic looming NPCs.
I've had a healer get really toxic toward the tank and both the tank and other dps were shit talking him all the way through the rest of the dungeon. also whenever I played tank everyone was toxic toward me for being bad
Never had issues with tanks or heating on primal in my 9 years of playing
>WTF YOU PULLED THE PACK TO THE LEFT INSTEAD OF THE PACK TO THE RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THEY GIVE THE EXACT SAME % AND ARE FUNCTIONALLY THE EXACT SAME? >THIS IS NOT PART OF MY USUAL PRE-APPROVED ROUTE AND NOW I AM FUCKING LEAVING, BYE
M+ has so many actual turbo autists.
~30%
another ~60% are weird disgruntled 4chanacks that spidermonkey themselves into the thread to screech about SJWs and the remaining 10% are confused ex-WoW players that see an opportunity to talk about XIV instead, which is bizarrely the most on-topic the thread usually is
i am saying most people in a WoW thread are not actually doing that, "viewpoints of the developer" ends up turning into a 4chan rant with a 99% success rate
Yeah, all that shit was changed back in 9.1.5 if I recall during the controversy.
That was also when they nixed usage of the word "consort" from the game, turned "damsel" to "townsdweller", changed the The Day Deathwing Came questline to be "less homophobic" and added males to Illidan's Black Temple harem to make it more "equal."
Why would OP try to trick people into playing this shit. That's fucking rude.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because the game has actually been dying so they're probably desperate.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
as the saying goes, misery loves company. WoWbucks are the most miserably gamers on earth.
>DEAR WHITE MAN >I can get along with and fuck around with men of literally every race. >Its only when white women get involved when there are "Problems"
Grumpy because you can't make friends, aren't you, Maddie?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not even worth an actual response.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
after all this time, gays are still trying to claim the T as their own
Yeah, all that shit was changed back in 9.1.5 if I recall during the controversy.
That was also when they nixed usage of the word "consort" from the game, turned "damsel" to "townsdweller", changed the The Day Deathwing Came questline to be "less homophobic" and added males to Illidan's Black Temple harem to make it more "equal."
i will never forgive them for unpersoning quinton flynn as the voice of kaelthas, they even replaced ALL lines, from BC magisters terrace even, the THE MAASTER WILL HAAVE YOU is so bad compared to the original one.
Remember Ganker that these people hate you and anything you stand for, its personal for them.
>a fan harasses you and your family to a horrendous degree >you get punished by having your likeness removed from everything
At least he doesn't have to be associated with Blizzard anymore.
i will never forgive them for unpersoning quinton flynn as the voice of kaelthas, they even replaced ALL lines, from BC magisters terrace even, the THE MAASTER WILL HAAVE YOU is so bad compared to the original one.
Remember Ganker that these people hate you and anything you stand for, its personal for them.
He was also found not guilty and the judge even called his accuser a fucking schizo.
Blizzard never apologized.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
of course they wouldn't
that would imply calling the cult of socjus liars
and if they do that, they will get chewed out
~30%
another ~60% are weird disgruntled 4chanacks that spidermonkey themselves into the thread to screech about SJWs and the remaining 10% are confused ex-WoW players that see an opportunity to talk about XIV instead, which is bizarrely the most on-topic the thread usually is
that go (You) fishing by namedropping 4chan for no discernable reason.
Less than 1% of posts on Ganker in general aren't worthless shitposts.
Convinced my lardass lifetime wow addict friend to quit this pile of shit during shadowlands by constantly mocking him and his favorite skinnerbox. He's actually managed to get in shape since then.
BfA's final days. Getting the Sliver of N'zoth toy to kill your own faction players.
I was a NElf DK trying to get the Sliver of N'zoth toy but I had to kill 10 of my own faction while in Uldum. I ended up randomly bumping into an Undead Warrior doing the same thing, we then proceeded to fly together and murder 10 horde and 10 alliance that moved while talking in Shath'Yar and not understanding a single thing we said to each other.
i would wait for people at the top of barrens to come from thousand needles with the elevator, mind control them, and then throw them back down to their death
means he had to do 88 mythic dungeon runs for an item he was looking for WITH a group that had the most potential for it to drop (as many party members as possible that are eligible for that item)
means he had to do 88 mythic dungeon runs for an item he was looking for WITH a group that had the most potential for it to drop (as many party members as possible that are eligible for that item)
dont forget that the item in question is basically mandatory for some specs
mythic+ was never good. there is nothing fun about juggling annoying mechanics spamming on damage sponges while hoping that one pixel you missed doesn't kill everyone. on a timer.
>mythic +
Literally nobody likes this, not even 30000 players left now.
It's 10 mans that people like doing with their bros. I can't believe they are STILL going "raid or die" mode, not that it even matters anymore, lmao dead shit game.
>Dragonflight is unironically better than it's been in a decade based entirely on system design >however it's now the "bud light" game from a marketing standpoint, no-one will play because it's 'too gay" (It 100% is fairly gay story-wise)
If Dragonflight had the atmosphere and story of legion or WoD but with its current systems it would certainly be alot more popular, but as it is now the gay shit is pushing alot of people away. Although I guess the difference her is bud light is a trash drink tastewise while dragonflight actually tastes good.
Most people aren't willing to give it another chance because of how burned they feel from BFA and Shadowlands being so bad, I wouldn't even know about the gay shit if people didn't bring it up on Ganker honestly. People moved on since its been over 4 years since the last time they had fun and found other games since then, why come back to WoW after that?
I left after BFA and just didn't want to deal with it again. The entire fiasco with azerite traits just told me they really have no faith in the game and no idea what they're doing anymore >why do you care what a trait does? just take it and play the game >wake up to yet another long ass blue post about the state of azerite >another 5000 word essay on reddit by Ion trying to do damage control >another mechanic bugged that they just blatantly said they don't have plans to fix or balance because they don't have time
you know the worst part? even after all that I bought the deluxe edition of Shadowlands because the blizzcon trailer looked amazing and I genuinely thought it would save WoW because it falls in line with the pattern: MoP was great, WoD was terrible, Legion was great, BFA was terrible, Shadowlands should be great
>blizzcon trailer looked amazing
That's where you went wrong. Blizz cinematics always look "enticing", but that's like a siren calling you into the waters to sink to your doom. Also, the Shadowlands trailer was a crime.
>Dragonflight is unironically better than it's been in a decade based entirely on system design
The system design is terrible. Talents are worse than vanilla talents because they remove core abilities that have always been base to the class like multi-shot. With single target talents you literally can not do AoE, this is shit design. You actually have to swap talents between each boss to kill the already annoying trash. The crafting is ruined since they decided to add in RNG, and it literally gives you best in slot gear. Even better than most of mythic raid. They've done this to sell tokens to casuals since now you can just buy near BiS gear straight from the game interface. In BFA/SL the systems were annoyances you can get around after a few weeks so you could enjoy the fun parts. In DF the systems are the core game. You can not get around them.
You know you can switch talent builds with a simple click, right? You're supposed to make a single-target build and an aoe build and swap them around. There's also nothing wrong with making a hybrid for open world questing. Sounds like a skill issue on your part rather than a systems issue.
Yea no fucking shit, but it's annoying for no reason. The game was never like that with vanilla/MoP talent trees. There is no reason for basic abilities like multi-shot to be in the talent tree. Instead of coming up with new interesting abilities to put in them they just removed the ones that have always been in the game and stuck them in there to make it """interesting"""
>The game was never like that with vanilla/MoP talent trees.
mop “talent trees” had maybe 1 or 2 rotation altering decisions per class, they were fucking awful
Ah yea, having the decision to not be able to attack more than one target is definitely more interesting. Just kidding, you're fucking retarded.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
why does being able to spec for the situation you’re in break your brain?
back to final trantasy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wow is eternal
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Eternally shit
GOTTEM
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol [...]
is that a chart of how many players there are left?
it says viewers?? but it means players, right?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>NOOOOO STOP SHOWING METRICS THAT GAUGE POPULARITY, TRUST MY SHITPOSTS ON Ganker!!!!!!!!!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
who are you quoting
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stream views has no correlation with number of players.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
cope, chud
it's a very accurate metric to gauge interest
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Roblox is bigger than WoW and it has no views. You lose.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
kids game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And kids watch twitch
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so perfect for twitch then?
not 8 year olds
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
twitch is 8 year olds and kissless 45 year olds behaving like 8 year olds
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so perfect for twitch then?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so sports, GTAV, valorant, Minecraft, League of Legends, Counterstrike, Rocketleague and DOTA2 are all more popular than WoW? that's pretty sad
and why are the top two most popular WoW streams classic? shouldn't it be retail? shouldn't people be watching Echo?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>watching Echo
why? race is over, they lost
and you could make that argument, yeah. but then there's more people watching heroes 3 or watching people LITERALLY FUCKING SLEEP than final chud
and you're supposed to make anyone believe that final chud is some fortnite level sensation that everyone is playing
jesus christ
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
why are you dodging the question and bringing trannies into this?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
shut the fuck up gay and have a nice day
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
is this because your copyright claim didn't work, Rulakir?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
because it's all he knows to do
despite the fact that he's simping for a chud game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It always impresses me, watching the hardcore death recaps, how many WoW players are unable to focus on the game without watching someone else play the same game at the same time.
This just doesn't seem to be a thing in FF, when you play the game, you focus on it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You already had to do that with the old talent system. Except now with the new talent system you're pretty much always going to spec into some sort of AoE for a raid boss if the boss spawns adds at any point during the fight. Before you could run ST talents and still have enough multi-target to handle the adds. Now you're forced to waste 5 talent points to even be effective at all. It's actually less choice than you had before. It's bad design.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You already had to do that with the old talent system.
you sure about that? I played through all of classic and classic tbc on a mage and respecd a grand total of ~5 times
from single target leveling to blizzard leveling
from blizzard leveling to arcane pve
from arcane pve to fire pve
from fire pve to tbc frost leveling
from tbc frost leveling to arcane pve
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You couldn't respec in raid on those expansions no fucking shit you didn't swap a lot. I'm talking about the MoP-BFA talents. I swapped way more with that talent system than with the new one. It was way easier to go hybrid between ST and Multi-target with the old talents. In the first DF raid I used the same talent build for basically every single boss because they spawned adds of some sort. The utility class side of the tree is fine, but the DPS spec side is terrible.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
tell me exactly which mop talents you swapped on a fight to fight basis
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't remember MoP, but in SL hunters swapped careful aim to explosive shot on more AoE heavy fights, I used trailblazer to run seeds on xymox, you swapped steady focus on ST fights when you had time to steady shot twice in a row and keep it up, streamline on fights where you couldn't. Chimaera shot was good on that row for 2 target fights like lords of dread. Had to run born to be wild on a few fights so turtle would be up in time to immune the tank soak on one fight. Lock and load and volley was also swapped around a lot depending on the fight.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this was 5.4 after readiness got removed but you could swap quite a bit for different fights
>it's now the "bud light" game from a marketing standpoint, no-one will play because it's 'too gay"
I thought drinkers were more mad at the chud downplaying and being ditzy about March Madness, rather than actually shilling Bud Light in a random Instagram ad.
it's not really better
it's just the same but without some of the borrowed power in sneedolands
but the time and money spent on borrowed power systems instead goes to... nothing
M+ sucks. I've played WoW and got CE for the past like 10 tiers in a row. I finally quit this patch with the new upgrade system because of M+. There is no reason to raid now that M+ gear is better and easier to get/upgrade. Blizz is killing the game the game. No one actually enjoys M+; they just enjoy the dopamine of getting free upgrades for no effort. They also ruined pushing for score since they force you to do tyrannical, which no one likes.
>Why don't they just make wow 2?
They tried with Project Titan, which was then salvaged into becoming Overwatch.
However, they do have a new upcoming survival MMO that's like Rust/Ark + Valheim with hundreds of players per server. It has been in development for 6 years, is nearly done, and will be announced at Blizzcon in November. Release in late 2024 or 2025.
Would you really trust Blizzard's current staff with designing a game from the ground up? They can barely survive building on top of the bones of a near 20 year old game as is.
The modern WoW team can't even make an interesting patch do you really think they can make an entirely new game? The last like 15 patches have all been boring alt catchup zones with "rare" spawns
lmao. there's literally more people on a single data center than all of wow and classic combined. and it's STILL getting more popular. it's just not stopping or even slowing down. everyone plays it now
It has 30.000 peak players across all servers during the day according to leaked microsoft acquisition docs.
And fleecing whatever little mentally ill addicts they have left is not something to brag about.
what is it about ff14 that distorts your perception of reality that hard? first it turned you into a chud and now you are making daily threads about how wow is dying since 20 years. stop it. it's not healthy.
Why have WoW players been obsessed with predicting FFXIV's death for nearly a decade?
Doesn't seem to be going well for them considering it's still growing.
It has 30.000 peak players across all servers during the day according to leaked microsoft acquisition docs.
And fleecing whatever little mentally ill addicts they have left is not something to brag about.
>It has 30.000 peak players across all servers during the day according to leaked microsoft acquisition docs.
Wrong. The 30k number was the absolute lowest amount of players at any given time.
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what is it about ff14 that distorts your perception of reality that hard? first it turned you into a chud and now you are making daily threads about how wow is dying since 20 years. stop it. it's not healthy.
Because nobody at nu-Blizz knows anything about game design. All they can do is desperately try to keep people from unsubbing and monetizing the fuck out of the poor fuckers who still play the game.
Vanilla WoW was the only time the game actually played like an MMO. Every expansion is just instanced dungeons and raids for endgame content. Whemever you try to do any open world raids the game becomes a laggy piece of shit. WoW is a garbage "MMO"
I watch hc death compilations to laugh at retards' misery and them wasting dozens of hours for nothing. I'm obviously counted in that graph. Does that somehow make me a player according to your logic?
there's more hype and interest in a hardcore wow than final fart's upcoming DOA patch
lmao
enjoy your recolors and reskins and another excruciating content drought ya fucking looney chud
The hardcore wow FOTM is still going strong, and the official servers release will likely make it even more popular. That being said, dragonflight is dead
Did they tell Demon Hunters to get fucked and give Demonology Warlocks back metamorphosis?
Did Ion apologize live for fucking the spec because, "they'd rather you not play it?"
Has Sylvanas been perma-murdered and Garrosh and Arthas brought back to lead the factions like the chads they are?
If not I'm not resubbing, my life is better off without WoW.
>mythic+ still not in dungeon finder tool >still has to deal with autistic holier than thou tanks & healers
Just let me get the fucking group instead of waiting 40+ minutes.
oh yeah i'm sure it's just a larp and it's not the fact that everyone can see it's the same butthurt xivtrannies that wow at 1/10th of its popularity still mogs their dead chud chatroom
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the thread is about wow not final fantasy, stop coping. you should be worried about the community in your own game drying up and blizzard shitting the bed continuously. dumb moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
still the most popular mmo
still can find groups for pretty much anything at any given hour
still gets regular and, with DF, even more often update patches
Don't care. M+ is shit and soulless regardless of whatever other game you're obsessed with does.
cut the larp trannoid.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I do not care about your obsession, but m+ is shit and soulless.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
millions of people seem to enjoy it
you opinion isn't worth shit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>millions
buddy I don't think they had millions of subs in shitolands, it certainly didn't feel like it at the end of slands. especially not likely after the chinks got cut off, try again mr shill.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Millions?
There seem to be more than millions of people NOT playing WoW, though?
Hm..
over 4m m+ runs in less than 2 weeks
there's a large portion of the playerbase that doesn't even touch m+
this game still has millions of players. i know this fact upsets you, but it is something you have to live with
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this game still has millions of players.
you are funny
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>millions
why does that make you so upset? why do you care so much anyway?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>upset >at a massive self-deluding cope
????
i'm laughing, goofy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>upset
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wrong one
xe's a wow player so this is more applicable
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Millions?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There seem to be more than millions of people NOT playing WoW, though?
Hm..
Not only is it soulless, but with the new upgrade system an average player who only grinds M+ would be 10+ item levels ahead of a top 5% player who only raids. I don't know how anyone is still playing this shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I don't know how anyone is still playing this shit.
Stockholm syndrome and monogamerism.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i don't know, so i'm asking: does the mythic+ tournament have a bigger audience than the world first raid race?
XIV and WoW have a lot more in common than you think. Both have amazing expansions (WotLK/BC and HW/SB), an overhyped expansion (Cata and ShB) and took an immediate nosedive in quality (MoP and EW). XIV is stuck with farts chasing a fad while WoW is infested with gays trying to push a political agenda.
Why can't we be friends?
You're funny. ShB and EW are so disconnected from the overarching plot. ShB was nothing more than a tool to use due to the insanely bad choices of their higher ups. Who needs localized stakes when you can shit out a world ending menace like Mahvel
>opens up a new avenue for exploring shards >ancient spooky ghosts >nah lets make them humans and create the most boring area in the game (a couple of floating circles)
Miss me with that shit fampai
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ZODIARK TRANCE!
DON'T PRETEND I'M YOUR FRIEND
This post right here is what happens when people cutscene skip or just watch it on youtube to pretend to know about the game (theyre seething WoW players)
>apocalypse happening >haha bunne look for pudding
The only good parts of EW was the granny losing her shit and the fight with Venat.
This post right here is what happens when people cutscene skip or just watch it on youtube to pretend to know about the game (theyre seething WoW players)
How is Cata overhyped when all of the boomers that got filtered by t11 still cry about it? If anything Wrath is the overhyped xpac, Ulduar was considered the greatest raid ever but server pop across the board has been dropping like a rock on all of them because of how bored people are.
You're funny. ShB and EW are so disconnected from the overarching plot. ShB was nothing more than a tool to use due to the insanely bad choices of their higher ups. Who needs localized stakes when you can shit out a world ending menace like Mahvel
>valor was removed
and replaced with a new currency that makes you grind even more M+ >seasonal affix was removed
the good seasonal affixes were the only parts M+ that were ever fun >the shit affixes were removed or nerfed
they're all shit
10.1 flopped harder than a fish in the sun and players realized that the barely serviceable state of dragonflight launch was the best it's going to be for the next 2 years and so they probably left
which means the shillmachines need to intensify
after playing hc in turtle, i don't think i could ever play the game in any other way. i don't really like raiding and shit like that. i grew up on eve and runescape
I know normies and casuals don't give a shit about this but I quit WoW back in WoD because I finally got sick of them reusing skeleton/models from classic through WoTLK and not making anything new
has there ever been a bigger case of “success breeds jealousy” in the gaming industry than wow?
tons of people hate on stuff like breath of the wild but they can’t actively root for everyone to return their copies and refund their purchases or something like they can with hoping every single person unsubs from wow
I think you just mentioned it: Botw is the only game to come anywhere remotely close to how much jealousy seethe wow caused from its peak popularity. Maybe Fortnite too.
Minecraft would be the next candidate but it seems to have flown completely under the seethe radar and seems to still be overwhelmingly loved
>Fixed
It will never be fixed until its made completely optional. There is zero arguments for forcing me to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends.
MMOs being a dated concept is what's holding back MMOs, they'll never be mainstream again now that the biggest appeal they had 20 years ago you can experience on Ganker or any other online messenger.
Leveling is one of the few issues they fixed recently with how fast it is and they finally got rid of making the main story required for every alt.
>Fixed
It will never be fixed until its made completely optional. There is zero arguments for forcing me to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends.
What that anon said. Levelling serves zero purpose in a modern MMO. The entire game is based around a gear treadmill anyway, why put a boring level treadmill in front of it just to force players to quit of boredom before they hit the cap??
It made sense 20 years ago when people took months to hit the level cap and the game was designed around your "Hero's journey", but its been streamlined way past that now
the de-emphasis on leveling/the world is one of the root causes for wow getting worse and worse
the gear/progression treadmill is the single most important pillar of wows success
and you want to get rid of both, go play some other genre because you obviously don’t like mmorpgs
>the de-emphasis on leveling/the world is one of the root causes for wow getting worse and worse
I'm saying make it optional you fucking sperg. >the gear/progression treadmill is the single most important pillar of wows success
I never said remove power you fucking sperg.
the backpedaling lmao
making leveling optional is necessarily de-emphasizing it >power is untied from equipment
you quite literally said remove power from equipment
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>making leveling optional is necessarily de-emphasizing it
Call it what you want. I shouldn't be forced to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends. >you quite literally said remove power from equipment
Yes, not remove power you brain damaged fag.
people like you is why i quit retail forever
you are a cancer upon the genre. why you don't just go play DRG like a normal person or another coop game is beyond me
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you are probably one of the dumbest people i've seen posting on here, and that's saying a lot
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet you can't give any counter-argument.
>I shouldn't be forced to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends
nobody is forcing you to play an mmorpg, like I said earlier just go play some other genre >Yes, not remove power you brain damaged fag.
as if youre not going to then complain about whatever other system replaces gear, you just want your little action figures ready for you to play with straight out of the box, you want power grinding removed, you don’t want to play an mmorpg
but you’re still in here SEETHING about the most success mmorpg ever made and one of the most successful games ever made, I hope you’re getting paid to do this or else it would be pathetic
>nobody is forcing you to play an mmorpg
That's not a reason why the campaign is forced for every class I want to play. >as if youre not going to then complain about whatever other system replaces gear
Just make power come from progress you spacker and tie it to your account so you can play whatever class you want. Gear should just be cosmetic. >I hope you’re getting paid to do this or else it would be pathetic
You're literally shilling for free and having a meltdown when someone criticizes some bad elements.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And yet you can't give any counter-argument.
counter-argument to what? you said you don't enjoy wow, you were told to go play games that cater exactly to what you're describing you want
if you are retarded enough to keep playing a game full of stuff you hate, i have no argument to save you from your subhuman tier iq and lack of time management skills
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you said you don't enjoy wow
I like WoW, what is retarded, and something you have no counter-argument for, is forcing people to play through the campaign and gear up every time they want to play a new class.
back to fortnite zoom zoom
Still no counter-argument
Still accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
remember my first reply to you when I told you de-emphasizing leveling is what killed wow and you got mad and lashed out?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think de-emphasizing levelling would make the game better and justified why. You haven't explained why forcing people to play the campaign every time they want to play a new class has any value at all. Nor have you explained why power should be tied to gear.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you don’t like mmorpgs, you should probably not play mmorpgs
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ok, show me a single tab-target co-op game with WoW's Mythic+ system I can play co-op with my friends.
Idiot.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The funny thing is that wow has been so bad for so long that they’ve garnered an audience of people like you who don’t even like mmorpgs but like modern wow
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I like the co-op (Dungeons and raids) side of WoW, the forced MMO garbage isn't fun in the slightest. You haven't given a single reason why it should be forced.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Give me a single reason why I should be forced to aim at people in an fps
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Give me a single reason why I should be forced to complete a mythic raid before I unlock the campaign.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what..?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The campaign has nothing to do with playing end-game co-op with friends. Gating it by forcing to play the campaign is retarded.
>I like the co-op (Dungeons and raids) side of WoW
co-op is not onyl dungeons and raids, you fucking brainlet. holy shit you fucking retards are so stupid. where did blizzard even dig you out from?
90% of interactions players had before wow became the main game for subhumans like you were had in the open world, not in the dungeons
what you want already exists
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361210/Warhammer_40000_Darktide/
this is made for people like you that do not enjoy rpgs and just want a pve coop experience
>co-op is not onyl dungeons and raids, you fucking brainlet
I never said it was. But it's a big part of it >90% of interactions players had before wow became the main game for subhumans like you were had in the open world
WoW has sharding you brainlet. You can keep areas populated by those that choose to do that content retard. >this is made for people like you
That isn't a tab-target co-op RPG like WoW you brain damaged fag.
You aren’t and the fact that the comparison flew so far over your head that that was your response is alarming
You literally have no counter-argument. I accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>WoW has sharding you brainlet.
it has it now. and it also has nothing to do with what i said. my point was that you LITERALLY do not understand what an mmo is, at the most basic level >That isn't a tab-target co-op RPG like WoW you brain damaged fag.
it's as much of an rpg as wow if not more at this point, lmao. and as for tab-targetting, too bad. you can't have everything. either switch to fps games and get what what you want, or stop being autistic and complaining
you went out of your way to develop the worst taste imaginable
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>do not understand what an mmo is, at the most basic level
I don't care what you think an MMO is. You haven't given a single reason to force people to play the campaign every time they want to play a new class. >it's as much of an rpg as wow if not more at this point, lmao
It doesn't even have a healer role. You're fucking retarded.
>And this is a problem because?
because then blizzard could no longer justify this being a B2P, sub-based game
why would you pay for this when warframe is free?
I'll say it again, all you have to do is dangle some mounts and cosmetics and people would play the campaign. People run 0 IQ old raids every week for cosmetics retard.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's not what i think, it's what it is. it's in the name. >You haven't given a single reason to force people to play the campaign every time they want to play a new class.
i don't think you should have to do that. again, modern wow is an abomination. for all i care, they could just remove leveling and the entire open world, it's not like i play the game. what i did was try to explain to you why that is never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to happen >It doesn't even have a healer role. You're fucking retarded.
what you can't pretend you're a healslut with your fellow discord chud friends? too bad. teamwork and cooperation is what makes pve pve, not spamming the same three keys to heal
not to mention that all these games feature support characters so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about >I'll say it again, all you have to do is dangle some mounts and cosmetics and people would play the campaign.
yeah and all you have to do to get people to come back to wow is to create a satisfying leveling experience, write a decent story, and not shit the bed with every expansion in some way
but that is never going to happen. just like your delusional warframe version of wow is never going to happen
retail gays are truly the most retarded subhumans in existence, and you further confirmed it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it's not what i think, it's what it is. it's in the name.
MMORPG does not mean "You have to play the campaign to unlock the rest of the game". I shouldn't be forced to play Half-Life 2 to play L4D with friends. You have no argument. >what you can't pretend you're a healslut with your fellow discord chud friends?
WoW isn't even remotely the same as Darktide. It's laughable you're even suggesting this and it shows how weak your position is. >yeah and all you have to do to get people to come back to wow is to create a satisfying leveling experience
All you do is make statements like "make is satisfying", "wow is an abomination", you haven't substantiated fucking ANYTHING you say and you STILL haven't given a SINGLE reason for force people to play the campaign.
What you're suggest is retarded as forcing people to finish a mythic raid before they can play the campaign. The two components have NOTHING to do with each other.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
moron, stop talking about your arbitrary campaign marker. an rpg means leveling, gaining skills, and growing your character. this is the most basic feature of an RPG and has been for decades, even before RPGs were video games >WoW isn't even remotely the same as Darktide
wow isn't. but your retarded dungeons are. only a megaautist wouldn't see the similarities in what is a pve experience with the exact same intended design >>BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE MUH TAB TARGETTING
yeah like i said, you are an autistic retard > you haven't substantiated fucking ANYTHING you say and you STILL haven't given a SINGLE reason for force people to play the campaign.
maybe because i said i don't care if people play some dumb campaign or level at all, lol. as for why wow is an abomination, it's because it's an amorphous blob without a consistent world, without any satisfying RPG elements, and with forced timegated content meant to milk you dry with dripfeed content over the course of months
and this isn't even getting into the awful story, music, design, etc, or even the gnomish pricing of what they're offering. private servers have better stability than blizzard's "premium" services >What you're suggest is retarded as forcing people to finish a mythic raid before they can play the campaign
moron you are literally behaving like a lot. nobody cares. nobody really disagrees with you. both people in this thread are telling you you don't enjoy rpgs, which is absolutely true. but neither of us give a shit if blizzard remove leveling or whatever the fuck it is you mean by campaign in dragonflight. i told you they won't, because that won't allow them to charge as much as they do now, and money is all that matters
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this is the most basic feature of an RPG and has been for decades, even before RPGs were video games
Still haven't explained the value of forcing players to play the campaign. Could you justify forcing people finish a mythic raid before playing the campaign? >only a megaautist wouldn't see the similarities in what is a pve experience with the exact same intended design
a 4 player DPS-only horde shooter even remotely similar to WoW's tab-target gameplay. Your position is laughable. > it's because it's an amorphous blob without a consistent world, without any satisfying RPG elements, and with forced timegated content meant to milk you dry with dripfeed content over the course of months
and this isn't even getting into the awful story, music, design, etc, or even the gnomish pricing of what they're offering.
Again, more empty statements with literally nothing of substance to support what you're saying. >moron you are literally behaving like a lot. nobody cares. nobody really disagrees with you. both people in this thread are telling you you don't enjoy rpgs, which is absolutely true. but neither of us give a shit if blizzard remove leveling or whatever the fuck it is you mean by campaign in dragonflight. i told you they won't, because that won't allow them to charge as much as they do now, and money is all that matters
Still no counter-argument.
I accept your concession.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
just go play albion you fucking sperg
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i'm playing wow as we speak though
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it has it now.
and it has layering since wotlk which its the same retarded shit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it's as much of an rpg
a 4 DPS left4dead clone is like WoW
holy shit you're fucking retarded
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You aren’t and the fact that the comparison flew so far over your head that that was your response is alarming
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I like the co-op (Dungeons and raids) side of WoW
co-op is not onyl dungeons and raids, you fucking brainlet. holy shit you fucking retards are so stupid. where did blizzard even dig you out from?
90% of interactions players had before wow became the main game for subhumans like you were had in the open world, not in the dungeons
what you want already exists
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361210/Warhammer_40000_Darktide/
this is made for people like you that do not enjoy rpgs and just want a pve coop experience
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this. i'm not sure what the fuck this guy is talking about. if you don't see why people care about leveling up and progression in an RPG, you shouldn't even be talking
he has a point that nu-wow is so bad that you might as well remove leveling, but that's because the game is a piece of shit
in an ideal world, you would have satisfying leveling and a satisfying gear treadmill
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if you don't see why people care about leveling up and progression in an RPG,
I never said remove it, I said make it optional. What you're saying is about as retarded as forcing people with a mythic raid before they unlock the campaign. You're fucking clueless.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>make it optional
and how would they do that?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just remove levels? You start the game and can choose the type of content you want to play. PVP, co-op PVE, the campaign, professions... It's that simple.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
except the part where literally every single person would select to skip the leveling, because the leveling in retail wow is, again, complete shit. so if they did make this "optional" you might as well delete the entire open world and just make it a lobby-based game
don't get me wrong, the game is trash, and i can see why a retard like you that unironically enjoys mythics wants to remove the last shreds of what allows blizzard to pretend this is an mmo
unfortunately, blizzard will never do that, because the overwhelming majority of whales are not retards like you, but different types of retards that just want to log in and do the same weekly grinds for 15 year old skins, do their dailies, and then spend their time on reddit/discord/wow forums while they pretend that being logged in and afking in the capital is playing the game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>except the part where literally every single person would select to skip the leveling
And this is a problem because? All you have to do is dangle some mounts and cosmetics and people would play the campaign. People run 0 IQ old raids every week for cosmetics retard.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And this is a problem because?
because then blizzard could no longer justify this being a B2P, sub-based game
why would you pay for this when warframe is free?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>is forcing people to play through the campaign and gear up every time they want to play a new class.
because their entire model relies on making you waste your time in the game on unlocking pointless bullshit and playing around rng. if blizzard allowed you to play and have fun, you wouldn't even buy a sub beyond a month
not to mention that for most of the wow sheeple, grinding for no purpose is literally what they consider fun. they're mazed rats that GENUINELY LOOK FORWARD to running the same raid for the 4189th time for the chance to get that one skin or mount, and see no problem with arbitrarily being given a chance to do it one time a week only
and as the game gets worse, they will keep locking more and more stuff to waste your time. it's the only strategy they have to retain subs, because god knows the game is complete garbage
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
back to fortnite zoom zoom
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I shouldn't be forced to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends
nobody is forcing you to play an mmorpg, like I said earlier just go play some other genre >Yes, not remove power you brain damaged fag.
as if youre not going to then complain about whatever other system replaces gear, you just want your little action figures ready for you to play with straight out of the box, you want power grinding removed, you don’t want to play an mmorpg
but you’re still in here SEETHING about the most success mmorpg ever made and one of the most successful games ever made, I hope you’re getting paid to do this or else it would be pathetic
people like you is why i quit retail forever
you are a cancer upon the genre. why you don't just go play DRG like a normal person or another coop game is beyond me
>Why should I have to play the campaign every and gear up every time I want to play a different class? >>THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS, SO THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE OKAY????????
thank fuck i don't play mmo's then. i tried playing wow classic when it came out but quit 10 levels in when i realized the """gameplay""" was brain-meltingly boring. like how masochistic you have to be to do shit like level every skill in oldschool runescape to 99, what the fuck is wrong with you
and of course the full list of trannies from an actual chud infested wowfugee discord dedicated to hating XIV simply because of the endwalker story
https://imgur.com/a/R4BsUec
this is who spams Ganker, /wowg/, and /xivg/
this new cope is pretty funny >the game is good if you ignore all the bad parts >so what if the story, lore, setting, and tone are all shit, it was always bad and I ignore it but I will also claim to love WoW
LOL
Dragonflight is fun but it's no longer a social game. Yes, there are other players but you treat them no better than NPCs. I played for a month, leveled to max and did some mythics - the only time anyone ever said anything was to shittalk after somebody died. Trade was full of people selling boosts, nothing else.
this new cope is pretty funny >the game is good if you ignore all the bad parts >so what if the story, lore, setting, and tone are all shit, it was always bad and I ignore it but I will also claim to love WoW
LOL
>the game is good if you ignore all the bad parts
and then what are you left with? killing the same 8 target dummies for half a year and running the same old dungeons for a small chance at good loot for the same amount of time if not longer
>Overwatch 2 will be different with its very own PVE campaign for each character which will be available at launch! >doesn't happen at launch >still working on it! >months later >actually we're just scrapping it >and also this is just Overwatch now, we're scrapping the 2
Maybe because I'm older now, but I don't really feel FOMO anymore. And after having tried out wow again, I felt nothing pulling me back to play it after leveling a new character and I finished the story. I'm certain that the only reason people play this game anymore is because FOMO drives them to. There isn't anything for a new player: the world is empty of players, you don't really get to experience any of the story leading up to Dragon flight, and you'll likely be flying through disconnected dungeons while leveling instead of learning about the world.
M+ is still shit and the only redeeming thing about the season is that the crest system makes it possible to get to 441 in the first two weeks so that you can go back to doing the bare minimum 8 +20s for vault each week faster.
Because the system makes no sense without the timer?
The baseline timer just signifies that you’ve completed the dungeon in a normal run as it was meant to be played
>Because the system makes no sense without the timer?
How so? It's a mode with an infinite scaling. It doesn't matter if you're going to brute-force your +x key since the key above will be a roadblock for you no matter what you do. The timer sterilizes everything. After a few weeks, there is only one route, one way to play the dungeon. It's an hamster wheel within a hamster wheel. It's shit.
No one forces you to play that way, you can still do your meta thing. But now you can play that way.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that would be the meta thing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so your entire response is nonsensical because you falsely assumed it wouldn’t be the meta thing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What's your point? It doesn't matter if it becomes a meta, now you have the freedom to decide, either you rush, you do your own thing, or you brute force yourself and waiting for your cds at every pull. Who gives a shit? Right now is only one way to play. How can your rotten brain understand that?
I quit in Legion because of the shitty forever grind.
Finally my old friends made me resub for Dragonfag. I fell for it and wasted good money on this shitty xpack. I lasted 3 weeks, mythic+ farming burned me out in a single week.
This is the single worst mechanic that has ever been invented in a video game. I'm not even sitting you. Every fucking week farming with drooling retards a shitty boring content just so you can raid. Fuck this.
cock ass dood I hate this game dood AARGH dog shit game dood Cocksuckers thanks for the 5 dollars donation thank you so much watch me get this mount WTF dood god ass game dood give me the mount already OH MY GAWD dood farming this mount for years already man Coldy got it like in one week dood mcconnel what you think of the game? what bad? no dood best mmo right now expansion is LITTY dood if I killed my mom? you banned I don't need to explain it to you stupid bitch you banned get out of my chat COCK ASS another wipe dood nooo who didn't do the mechanic? it's a two mechanic boss you just don't die you know what you kicked from the group dood I will not have my time wasted here dood get out of here anyway was really fun to play 10 minutes of World of Warcraft time to react for the rest of the stream
The worst part about M+ is that it somehow manages to turn pure casuals into elitist cunts. You will have an absolute complete trash player who's never seen a raid on harder than raid finder difficulty handpicking people 20 item levels above him and acting like he's the best player in the world doing M+10 runs, and then ragequitting after 2 wipes.
I hate using this word but M+ is more "toxic" than any game I have played.
>The worst part about M+ is that it somehow manages to turn pure casuals into elitist cunts. >Be tank >Have ~3k rating >Join a quick +16 run for being lazy >Green-parsing shitter can't stop giving me tips.
imagine it's 2010 and you're enjoying WoW and somebody pops out of a time rift and shows you this picture and says "This is the future of WoW".
What do?
>you WON'T believe this >but first >listen >actually, lemme say this >Blizzard is terrible >anyway, let's check the new expansion >check this out >SLAMS >I'll tell you what, man >the point is >fluid combat >but you know what >it's complicated >lemme lemme lemme think of it this way >as a moderate >wow bad, but not that bad >look >here’s the thing >*adjusts eyeglasses* >I kid you not >let's play on >woke outrage >culture wars >I'm just some dude who raids in the back of a garage >full stop >I guess what I’m trying to say is this >*adjusts jacket* >I'm an Alliance dropout >I used to work for Stormwind >I was homeless >get woke go broke >it's nuanced >Harumph I say! >I try to keep these short >get a copy editor >let me break it down for you >raid analogy >horseshoe theory >Blizzard is eating itself >that's nuts >I dunno, man >it’s actually kinda scary >think about it >Marvel movie analogy >*claps hands together* >I will say this >I can respect that >but at the end of the day >I'm a milquetoast fencer-sitter >store mount good, wow token bad >i'll wrap this up >thanks for hangin' out
>mythic plus
Imagine doing the same 30 minutes of gameplay over and over like you are a retard playing League of Legends.
As fuck awful as people say Shadowlands was, it had way more to actually do than Dragonflight.
>People constantly ask Blizzard to just let every race play any class even though it'd break lore to do so >Blizzard holds off on doing that for years until they finally decide to lax up a bit and let more races be certain classes even though it breaks lore >People start bitching at them for doing this and saying that they're killing their game
What
Wow it's almost like that playerbase consists of more than a single person!
Maybe that's why games who's developers have vision do better than ones who let a million voices randomly decide their direction each patch....
No, people wanted more somewhat sensible combinations. Zandalari Warlocks (Demoniacs), Night Elf Paladins (that one cunt in Legion), etc.
Not Lightforged Warlocks that are literally the antithesis of one another.
wow literally has no less than 3 generations of different player types and attitudes who were once fans, every single change they ever make to the game for the rest of time will be criticized
blizz could've made such changes and it could've made sense, but they did it late and made some stupid changes on top of that. classic blizzard shooting themselves in the foot
>no i legitim-ACK
There can only be so many players of this dead chudshit who play femdwarf with that exact face and hairstyle combo and who happen to shill dragonshite on this website, chud. You can stop pretending.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not that guy that posted that I'm asking for the lore retard
wow will never change wow will never change!
Ever since WoD, always the same! Couldn’t keep their hands out of the lore! But not our wow! Couldn’t be precious wow! Mazing them blind! And now wow gets to be good again? What a sick joke! I should’ve unsubed when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop
sorry but shadowlands was the straw that broke the camel's back
i endured shitty expansion after expansion, mostly thanks to my guildmates and my friends that kept playing
shadowlands killed my love for the franchise, and i heard my guild disbanded before sepulcher
so many sweet memories in this game, i'd like to keep them like that
the game i liked has stopped existing at the end of wotlk
I've been enjoying my friend's slow realization that Aberrus is an undertuned piece of shit with easy simple mechanics.
What's better is the new gearing system makes the issue even worse.
The lore has long been destroyed and without it there is no reason to play a Warcraft game.
this, the most enjoyable things about warcraft are warcraft 3 along with it's lore manual that I read through multiple times, and world of warcrafts music.
I never read a single word of the lore and I played since 2005
we know, and this is how you rationalize playing an LGBT chud game and you being "straight"
Anyone who pretends that WoW lore was ever good at any point never played a Warcraft game. Butchering the story into only two factions makes no sense for anyone that actually liked the real lore on top of dumb shit like undead holy priests/draenei retcon/all of the shitty books like for garona
The franchise is called Warcraft, retard. Everything was built on top of the war. Was is stupid? Yes, but it was entertaining.
If anything I don't understand you gays who claim to like the game, yet to enjoy it need to purposefully ignore huge chunks of it. All for what? A glorified hamster wheel?
For me it was blood elves in the horde and yes, i know that it was for the south korean market.
For me? It's the severe lack of slut armor. For a bunch of degenerates it's surprising they haven't had good slut pieces. At least they updated the barbershop to let you change your sex and shit for free instead of the 40 bucks they used to charge, I got to convert some of my female toons to male.
The game looks like a gay pixar shit N64 game and most "armors" are just painted on skin. You can't make slut armor with a 25 year old engine like that.
dood b& dis andy
>literally never clicked on any of his videos
>his rate face wow deaths reaction videos are always in my recommended
Fuck off!
>Change into the opposite sex
>Have to spend $20 to remove your deadname
The lore was destroyed in Vanilla. Stop pretending it's a recent thing.
The lore was perpetually destroyed every new iteration. But the Chronicles books really set the highest standard of how to make sens of the WC universe. It's a shame that they were retconned instantly.
This, it’s can’t even be argued that it’s Warcraft anymore. Why play a furry chud fantasy game.
>running the sane contemt over and over is fun
You gays killed the MMO genere.
Stupid zoomer. Grinding has been part of MMOs since MUDs
yes part, but not the whole game
correction, running the same content but with a timer for an epic score has ruined MMOs
>Be Tank
>Do KSH
>Never had fun once
>Quit
I still don't understand why I did it but I don't have ANY fond memories of season 1. The timer, the green-parsing shitters who think they're good, the dungeons itself... I don't know. Anyone who thinks that M+ is peak content should be taken behind the shed and get shot.
>most fun thing to do is run the same dungeons thousands of times since raiding is a fucking mess
nah im good
Dead game. Every single worthwhile aspect of the game has been destroyed, queues take forever, most guilds are dead and the content has never been worse. There are no redeeming quality left unless you're a sodomite or chud looking to play a game with explicit ingame representation of your kind
I thought people were saying this is the first decent expansion since MoP or even Legion? I keep seeing that repeated everywhere, and haven't really seen a lot of people shitting on it. I'm still too scared to ever play a Blizzard product again because they rugpull their player base so often. Overwatch 2 recently just continues this line.
>I thought people were saying this is the first decent expansion since MoP or even Legion? I keep seeing that repeated everywhere
Yeah. That's the cope, and since nobody is playing the game outside of the hard-stockholmed twats who would keep playing even if it was another Shadowlands, only their narrative really exists.
it's just cope after 2 disastrous wow expacs in a row, i'll assume dflight is shit too because pvp is already dead. At least that's what my friends who still play are telling me, it's S4 of shitolands level of dead.
It's better than Shadowlands and BFA but that's not really saying much, not worth catching up to at this point if you aren't already playing it
The raid and m+ any good? That's all I did anyway for modern WoW.... I honestly haven't been a huge fan of WoW ever since like Wrath, a lot of the magic of the game is just gone and the lore isn't interesting. It's so hard to get excited for anything new from Blizzard anymore.
M+ is pretty mediocre, they brought back some of the older dungeons people liked from previous xpacs but the new ones from DF this rotation are cancerously long for m+, no idea about the raid I gave up on raiding in WoW when I was tired of doing it as a part time job for no pay in BFA
Don't fall for that rethoric. It being the first decent expansion since Legion by no means it means it was as good as Legion. It just means that SL and BfA were that bad.
chudflight just shows how Blizzard knows they can not give a shit because the drones will happily eat everything they put in the table and ask for seconds.
SL filtered out everyone who was still critical of the game. DF is more of the Legion-SL era just without AP grinding this time.
Dragonflight is DOA and these paid shills having to beg people to come back is just hilarious.
i still play classic wow. doing naxx again with my guild this weekend
>when a 21yr old version of the game is more enjoyable than the present
>mythic + farming is now most fun it has ever been
Jesus fucking Christ the absolute state of WoW players.
You wont be able to shill your gay game back to life here. Fuck off.
>Celestalon
Wasn't that the guy who pushed for pruning abilities during WoD because he was playing on a tablet or some shit?
i think so.
I miss classes in MoP so much, there was a modicum of depth there. destro lock and fury warrior were so fun; shit, even fire mage was fun
WoW is possibly the single most pathetic game people still obsess over and it's actually sad how many thousands of hours of life is wasted on standing on a tile pressing the same sequence of keys over and over and over and moving a few pixels every time the ground changes colour. I have a "friend" who whines about being supposedly busy and not having time then he goes and sits for 4 hours every second day fighting the same boss with the same people and the same moves. I'm actually convinced WoW is a haven for individuals with Asperger's or high functioning autism. The obsessive compulsive repetition of it all is shocking to me. I just honestly don't get it.
It's because he's in a guild that makes him show up in order to obtain gear for the raid team, for the next challenge. It's all about the race. That's the fun part. Being the top dawgz on the server. The absolute worst part of raiding is the monotony after you've already finished the current content.
So he's wasting hundreds of hours of his supposedly already limited time so that he can brag to other autistics about pixels on a screen? And then it all resets every few months? That's mental.
i wish it were as easy as you make it out to be.
The mechanics in the encounters have gotten extremely complex and difficult over the years
overwatch pve scrapped and was never actually planned to be added lol
the best part is when most of the dungeon groups disband because someone has an autism attack
I knew it. There's no way actually normal people play this shit enthusiastically.
it still throws me off in Other Game when everybody just brushes themselves off and apologizes for fucking up if something happens and party-destroying autism attacks are very, very rare
I've had a healer get really toxic toward the tank and both the tank and other dps were shit talking him all the way through the rest of the dungeon. also whenever I played tank everyone was toxic toward me for being bad
aether moment
crystal, actually
weird, never had problems there; i've had more problems with the fr*nch on what's now the chaos datacenter than i have on crystal
haha ur bad xd
>tank pulls wall to wall like normal since dungeons are a meme
>healer has an autism attack because they can't handle their 2 button rotation and rage quits
Healers in XIV are actual subhumans this happens every 4 or 5 dungeons I do.
>new healer drops in in five seconds and the dungeon continues as normal
The charges, officer?
The charges are healers are awful in XIV like I just said.
Damn sucks to get a revolving door of autistic healers every time you play. Anyways move off of Primal
just remember that the common element in every bad party you're in is you
>giving a shit about the opinions of a potato
Potato players are the subhumans of XIV. Good thing there is a mod to change potato morons into generic looming NPCs.
Never had issues with tanks or heating on primal in my 9 years of playing
>noooooooooooo you HAVE to do the heckin' skpperino otherwise we miss out on 3.35 seconds!!!! I am LEAVING!!!!!
>WTF YOU PULLED THE PACK TO THE LEFT INSTEAD OF THE PACK TO THE RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THEY GIVE THE EXACT SAME % AND ARE FUNCTIONALLY THE EXACT SAME?
>THIS IS NOT PART OF MY USUAL PRE-APPROVED ROUTE AND NOW I AM FUCKING LEAVING, BYE
M+ has so many actual turbo autists.
Why did blizzard NEVER ban retards for this kind of behavior?
bro just be normal, it's just a video game.
Mythic+ has never been good and should have never existed. Don't kid yourself.
why do people like replaying content again and again in hopes of a good roll on a slot machine
Autism
you answered your own question
>shitty mazed+ treadmill is now most fun it has ever been
and?
tfw no tauren gf
just go to your local walmart, anon
lots of heffers roam and graze there
So how many posts in every WoW thread are trolls trolling trolls? 90%?
>So how many posts in every thread are trolls trolling trolls?
ftfy
~30%
another ~60% are weird disgruntled 4chanacks that spidermonkey themselves into the thread to screech about SJWs and the remaining 10% are confused ex-WoW players that see an opportunity to talk about XIV instead, which is bizarrely the most on-topic the thread usually is
So people can't cringe at the state of WoW in terms of story, characters and the viewpoints of the developer?
no, you are not allowed to do that.
That sucks. It feels relevant as well.
i am saying most people in a WoW thread are not actually doing that, "viewpoints of the developer" ends up turning into a 4chan rant with a 99% success rate
nobody bothers talking about ff except for wow shills deflecting criticism about wow being a steaming pile of shit.
the new devs are so anti fun it's hilarious
i knew it was over when they changed the big love rocket.
they changed way more than quest names, the chud devs went on an inquisiton against anything funny in the game.
Why would OP try to trick people into playing this shit. That's fucking rude.
Because the game has actually been dying so they're probably desperate.
as the saying goes, misery loves company. WoWbucks are the most miserably gamers on earth.
>DEAR WHITE MAN
>I can get along with and fuck around with men of literally every race.
>Its only when white women get involved when there are "Problems"
Grumpy because you can't make friends, aren't you, Maddie?
Not even worth an actual response.
after all this time, gays are still trying to claim the T as their own
Holy shit, is this real? WoWfags, explain now!
Yeah, all that shit was changed back in 9.1.5 if I recall during the controversy.
That was also when they nixed usage of the word "consort" from the game, turned "damsel" to "townsdweller", changed the The Day Deathwing Came questline to be "less homophobic" and added males to Illidan's Black Temple harem to make it more "equal."
They changed a human lobotomy victim in Undercity to be less "icky sticky problematic"
So now she's just like some consensual pet or something?
It's very much real. Also, fruit bowls.
The Mac'Aree one is because the real McCree turned out to be a rapist. Same reason they changed the Overwatch character.
NO SWEARING IN LE HECKIN DOJO YOU XIVCHUDS!
what is wrong with the name Patrice Lancaster?
i will never forgive them for unpersoning quinton flynn as the voice of kaelthas, they even replaced ALL lines, from BC magisters terrace even, the THE MAASTER WILL HAAVE YOU is so bad compared to the original one.
Remember Ganker that these people hate you and anything you stand for, its personal for them.
>a fan harasses you and your family to a horrendous degree
>you get punished by having your likeness removed from everything
At least he doesn't have to be associated with Blizzard anymore.
He was also found not guilty and the judge even called his accuser a fucking schizo.
Blizzard never apologized.
of course they wouldn't
that would imply calling the cult of socjus liars
and if they do that, they will get chewed out
honestly i'm just here watching the dumpster fire while talking shit about a game i used to enjoy.
Any studio's game getting shilled hard here is normally in huge trouble, it's the bottom of the barrel of shilling.
95%. 4% are guys like this dipshit
that go (You) fishing by namedropping 4chan for no discernable reason.
Less than 1% of posts on Ganker in general aren't worthless shitposts.
>for no discernible reason
You don't use very many threads oriented around WoW or Blizzard, do ya? No need to troll-shield, friend.
Beyond help honestly
>mfw Blizzard put all this effort into crafting and adding new systems, pseudo auction house, etc
>they made it worse, not better
It's pretty amazing, really.
what is the most "chad" thing you ever did in WoW?
Unsub.
Convinced my lardass lifetime wow addict friend to quit this pile of shit during shadowlands by constantly mocking him and his favorite skinnerbox. He's actually managed to get in shape since then.
as a human rogue i only went ganking in enemy capitals. my calling card was sapping the thief catcher guards next to someone so they'd freak out
I once beat a level 55 tauren warrior as level 45 paladin in Stranglethorn vale.
I was literally shaking at the end,
uninstalled the game
Stealthing outside Orgrimmar as a lvl 2-ish gnome rogue, running up to 1hp duel losers and lucky shotting them to a raucous chorus of KEKs.
BfA's final days. Getting the Sliver of N'zoth toy to kill your own faction players.
I was a NElf DK trying to get the Sliver of N'zoth toy but I had to kill 10 of my own faction while in Uldum. I ended up randomly bumping into an Undead Warrior doing the same thing, we then proceeded to fly together and murder 10 horde and 10 alliance that moved while talking in Shath'Yar and not understanding a single thing we said to each other.
i would wait for people at the top of barrens to come from thousand needles with the elevator, mind control them, and then throw them back down to their death
quit
Fap to my pandaren pc
I will resub to XIV before I even think about resubbing to the trash fire that is WoW post 9.1.5.
Won't be playing your dead chudshit.
Gotta spend 2 weeks wrangling retards so I can get a thing that makes my guy 2% more powerful
capitalists btfo
I swear, some of those models added in this expansion HAVE to be imported from the scrapped mobile game.
>I'm having so much fun bro
what does any of that stuff mean? I quit wow in cataclysm
means he had to do 88 mythic dungeon runs for an item he was looking for WITH a group that had the most potential for it to drop (as many party members as possible that are eligible for that item)
and? shit drop rates were a thing since vanilla
I don't think you grasp what I'm talking about.
dont forget that the item in question is basically mandatory for some specs
mythic+ was never good. there is nothing fun about juggling annoying mechanics spamming on damage sponges while hoping that one pixel you missed doesn't kill everyone. on a timer.
mythic+ is just a soulless treadmill version of challenge modes
>mythic +
Literally nobody likes this, not even 30000 players left now.
It's 10 mans that people like doing with their bros. I can't believe they are STILL going "raid or die" mode, not that it even matters anymore, lmao dead shit game.
> It's 10 mans that people like doing with their bros.
>paying a sub to play with only 9 other players
fuck off retard
imagine playing online games with your friends lol lmao rofl xd
>Dragonflight is unironically better than it's been in a decade based entirely on system design
>however it's now the "bud light" game from a marketing standpoint, no-one will play because it's 'too gay" (It 100% is fairly gay story-wise)
If Dragonflight had the atmosphere and story of legion or WoD but with its current systems it would certainly be alot more popular, but as it is now the gay shit is pushing alot of people away. Although I guess the difference her is bud light is a trash drink tastewise while dragonflight actually tastes good.
Most people aren't willing to give it another chance because of how burned they feel from BFA and Shadowlands being so bad, I wouldn't even know about the gay shit if people didn't bring it up on Ganker honestly. People moved on since its been over 4 years since the last time they had fun and found other games since then, why come back to WoW after that?
I left after BFA and just didn't want to deal with it again. The entire fiasco with azerite traits just told me they really have no faith in the game and no idea what they're doing anymore
>why do you care what a trait does? just take it and play the game
>wake up to yet another long ass blue post about the state of azerite
>another 5000 word essay on reddit by Ion trying to do damage control
>another mechanic bugged that they just blatantly said they don't have plans to fix or balance because they don't have time
you know the worst part? even after all that I bought the deluxe edition of Shadowlands because the blizzcon trailer looked amazing and I genuinely thought it would save WoW because it falls in line with the pattern: MoP was great, WoD was terrible, Legion was great, BFA was terrible, Shadowlands should be great
>blizzcon trailer looked amazing
That's where you went wrong. Blizz cinematics always look "enticing", but that's like a siren calling you into the waters to sink to your doom. Also, the Shadowlands trailer was a crime.
>Dragonflight is unironically better than it's been in a decade based entirely on system design
The system design is terrible. Talents are worse than vanilla talents because they remove core abilities that have always been base to the class like multi-shot. With single target talents you literally can not do AoE, this is shit design. You actually have to swap talents between each boss to kill the already annoying trash. The crafting is ruined since they decided to add in RNG, and it literally gives you best in slot gear. Even better than most of mythic raid. They've done this to sell tokens to casuals since now you can just buy near BiS gear straight from the game interface. In BFA/SL the systems were annoyances you can get around after a few weeks so you could enjoy the fun parts. In DF the systems are the core game. You can not get around them.
You know you can switch talent builds with a simple click, right? You're supposed to make a single-target build and an aoe build and swap them around. There's also nothing wrong with making a hybrid for open world questing. Sounds like a skill issue on your part rather than a systems issue.
stop defending blizzard
Yea no fucking shit, but it's annoying for no reason. The game was never like that with vanilla/MoP talent trees. There is no reason for basic abilities like multi-shot to be in the talent tree. Instead of coming up with new interesting abilities to put in them they just removed the ones that have always been in the game and stuck them in there to make it """interesting"""
>The game was never like that with vanilla/MoP talent trees.
mop “talent trees” had maybe 1 or 2 rotation altering decisions per class, they were fucking awful
Ah yea, having the decision to not be able to attack more than one target is definitely more interesting. Just kidding, you're fucking retarded.
why does being able to spec for the situation you’re in break your brain?
back to final trantasy
wow is eternal
Eternally shit
GOTTEM
is that a chart of how many players there are left?
it says viewers?? but it means players, right?
>NOOOOO STOP SHOWING METRICS THAT GAUGE POPULARITY, TRUST MY SHITPOSTS ON Ganker!!!!!!!!!
who are you quoting
Stream views has no correlation with number of players.
cope, chud
it's a very accurate metric to gauge interest
Roblox is bigger than WoW and it has no views. You lose.
kids game
And kids watch twitch
not 8 year olds
twitch is 8 year olds and kissless 45 year olds behaving like 8 year olds
so perfect for twitch then?
so sports, GTAV, valorant, Minecraft, League of Legends, Counterstrike, Rocketleague and DOTA2 are all more popular than WoW? that's pretty sad
and why are the top two most popular WoW streams classic? shouldn't it be retail? shouldn't people be watching Echo?
>watching Echo
why? race is over, they lost
and you could make that argument, yeah. but then there's more people watching heroes 3 or watching people LITERALLY FUCKING SLEEP than final chud
and you're supposed to make anyone believe that final chud is some fortnite level sensation that everyone is playing
jesus christ
why are you dodging the question and bringing trannies into this?
shut the fuck up gay and have a nice day
is this because your copyright claim didn't work, Rulakir?
because it's all he knows to do
despite the fact that he's simping for a chud game
It always impresses me, watching the hardcore death recaps, how many WoW players are unable to focus on the game without watching someone else play the same game at the same time.
This just doesn't seem to be a thing in FF, when you play the game, you focus on it.
You already had to do that with the old talent system. Except now with the new talent system you're pretty much always going to spec into some sort of AoE for a raid boss if the boss spawns adds at any point during the fight. Before you could run ST talents and still have enough multi-target to handle the adds. Now you're forced to waste 5 talent points to even be effective at all. It's actually less choice than you had before. It's bad design.
>You already had to do that with the old talent system.
you sure about that? I played through all of classic and classic tbc on a mage and respecd a grand total of ~5 times
from single target leveling to blizzard leveling
from blizzard leveling to arcane pve
from arcane pve to fire pve
from fire pve to tbc frost leveling
from tbc frost leveling to arcane pve
You couldn't respec in raid on those expansions no fucking shit you didn't swap a lot. I'm talking about the MoP-BFA talents. I swapped way more with that talent system than with the new one. It was way easier to go hybrid between ST and Multi-target with the old talents. In the first DF raid I used the same talent build for basically every single boss because they spawned adds of some sort. The utility class side of the tree is fine, but the DPS spec side is terrible.
tell me exactly which mop talents you swapped on a fight to fight basis
Don't remember MoP, but in SL hunters swapped careful aim to explosive shot on more AoE heavy fights, I used trailblazer to run seeds on xymox, you swapped steady focus on ST fights when you had time to steady shot twice in a row and keep it up, streamline on fights where you couldn't. Chimaera shot was good on that row for 2 target fights like lords of dread. Had to run born to be wild on a few fights so turtle would be up in time to immune the tank soak on one fight. Lock and load and volley was also swapped around a lot depending on the fight.
this was 5.4 after readiness got removed but you could swap quite a bit for different fights
>it's now the "bud light" game from a marketing standpoint, no-one will play because it's 'too gay"
I thought drinkers were more mad at the chud downplaying and being ditzy about March Madness, rather than actually shilling Bud Light in a random Instagram ad.
>guys you might not understand it but this pile of shit doesn't have diarrhea traces in it, thus its good.
Sloppy job, chud
it's not really better
it's just the same but without some of the borrowed power in sneedolands
but the time and money spent on borrowed power systems instead goes to... nothing
M+ sucks. I've played WoW and got CE for the past like 10 tiers in a row. I finally quit this patch with the new upgrade system because of M+. There is no reason to raid now that M+ gear is better and easier to get/upgrade. Blizz is killing the game the game. No one actually enjoys M+; they just enjoy the dopamine of getting free upgrades for no effort. They also ruined pushing for score since they force you to do tyrannical, which no one likes.
Why don't they just make wow 2?
>Why don't they just make wow 2?
They tried with Project Titan, which was then salvaged into becoming Overwatch.
However, they do have a new upcoming survival MMO that's like Rust/Ark + Valheim with hundreds of players per server. It has been in development for 6 years, is nearly done, and will be announced at Blizzcon in November. Release in late 2024 or 2025.
how did everquest 2 fare?
i mean its still around (somehow)
Would you really trust Blizzard's current staff with designing a game from the ground up? They can barely survive building on top of the bones of a near 20 year old game as is.
The modern WoW team can't even make an interesting patch do you really think they can make an entirely new game? The last like 15 patches have all been boring alt catchup zones with "rare" spawns
because despite what seething ff chuds tell you, it's still the most popular mmorpg out there and makes them a lot of money.
lmao. there's literally more people on a single data center than all of wow and classic combined. and it's STILL getting more popular. it's just not stopping or even slowing down. everyone plays it now
what is it about ff14 that distorts your perception of reality that hard? first it turned you into a chud and now you are making daily threads about how wow is dying since 20 years. stop it. it's not healthy.
they can't handle the fact that their chud chatroom will forever be a niche, dead piece of shit
>ffxiv deludes you into making threads for 20 years
>hasn't even been out for 20 years
I think you're the one thats deluded
Why have WoW players been obsessed with predicting FFXIV's death for nearly a decade?
Doesn't seem to be going well for them considering it's still growing.
It has 30.000 peak players across all servers during the day according to leaked microsoft acquisition docs.
And fleecing whatever little mentally ill addicts they have left is not something to brag about.
surely you can post them then, right?
>It has 30.000 peak players across all servers during the day according to leaked microsoft acquisition docs.
Wrong. The 30k number was the absolute lowest amount of players at any given time.
that's still pathetic lmao. xiv has 30k most of the time on steam which is like 5 percent of the playerbase.
And almost everyone just uses xivlauncher instead of steam.
why are you replying to bait? that chud keeps mumbling about "leaked microsoft docs" yet they were never posted
are you retarded?
that document also stated the game has 4 million subs, do you believe that?
You will never be barry.
Because nobody at nu-Blizz knows anything about game design. All they can do is desperately try to keep people from unsubbing and monetizing the fuck out of the poor fuckers who still play the game.
what do u farm? and for what reason?
Just copy xiv and get it over with.
It's what blizzard has always done.
that would require starting the entire from scratch
Vanilla WoW was the only time the game actually played like an MMO. Every expansion is just instanced dungeons and raids for endgame content. Whemever you try to do any open world raids the game becomes a laggy piece of shit. WoW is a garbage "MMO"
disgusting
>another episode of xivtrannies coping that wow is still #1 mmo
>the blue line represents a game that is dead
>the red line represents a game that has billions of players
i do not care about chinks and insects who make the majority of the games players and what they google for the game is simply not fun
chinks dont have access to the game anymore
>another episode of the 3 people still playing dragonflight latching on to the continued success of WoW Classic
wow classic is dead too retard
lol
I watch hc death compilations to laugh at retards' misery and them wasting dozens of hours for nothing. I'm obviously counted in that graph. Does that somehow make me a player according to your logic?
there's more hype and interest in a hardcore wow than final fart's upcoming DOA patch
lmao
enjoy your recolors and reskins and another excruciating content drought ya fucking looney chud
If you think I'm gonna sit and translate that schizophrenic word salad of yours to human language then you're wrong. Good day.
The hardcore wow FOTM is still going strong, and the official servers release will likely make it even more popular. That being said, dragonflight is dead
>final fart's upcoming DOA patch
bro there's like 10 different final fantasy titles that's a service title, who's getting ayame and kasumi
more like another epsiode of the same 3 ff chuds shitting up a 300 replie thread. it's crazy to see how low some "people" can go.
Blizzard defenders, assemble!
>NOOOO STOP BTFOING MY HEADCANON, WOW IS DEAD. ITS DEAD!!!!!!!!
>YOURE SUPPOSED TO LET ME SHAMELESSLY LIE!!!!!
Who are you talking to?
rent free
Don't care bout 14, just 'ate Blizzard for ruining my favorite game, simple as.
fuck mythic+. the whole concept is trash and boring.
the pinacle of dungeon content was challenge mode during mop. everything after that kept getting worse.
>h-hardcore will save wow!
*coughs up blood*
when is evoker being released? seems interesting and i have the itch to play again
evoker is already out and in a few weeks its getting a 3rd spec, augmentation, which is basically a bard/buff class from old mmos
oh i meant to say augmentation, i love bard/buffer classes in games
its 10.1.5. should be out in a few weeks
Why the fuck the DRAGonQUEENs get a third spec but not CHADhunters?
probably because they want to shake up the "holy trinity" by introducing a buff spec
>introducing a buff spec
They already had that, it was called shaman and paladin
>when is evoker being released?
It released with the expansion, 6 months ago.
dead chud game
wow, yeah.
Should i pick slightly tanned, healthy skin color for my middie or 1-1 milky white?
god i wish body type 2 individuals were real
the trapezoid eyes ruin that face. 1 is better.
even with the free trial
hard pass.
nice try blizzdrone, still not playing chudflight
Overwatch 2
Did they tell Demon Hunters to get fucked and give Demonology Warlocks back metamorphosis?
Did Ion apologize live for fucking the spec because, "they'd rather you not play it?"
Has Sylvanas been perma-murdered and Garrosh and Arthas brought back to lead the factions like the chads they are?
If not I'm not resubbing, my life is better off without WoW.
How is this retard still not fired?
My personal favorite is him telling people that liked 10 mans to just get over it.
RAID OR DIE!
>DOA patch
But enough about 10.1
I can't wait to do Nier raids with the blubros.
cant wait for blue mages to get Ultima before black mages
I resubbed. After 1 week I am tired of running uldaman hoping for a head drop. Wyrm capped. Waiting for tuesday.
>mythic+ still not in dungeon finder tool
>still has to deal with autistic holier than thou tanks & healers
Just let me get the fucking group instead of waiting 40+ minutes.
Make the group yourself then dumb zoomer gay
>boo hoo wow is me no one is doing all of the work for me
>still has to deal with autistic holier than thou tanks & healers
Or just add it to the fucking dungeon finder tool.
Do you not have friends? have a nice day
>still has to deal with autistic holier than thou tanks & healers
Dungeon finder tool.
blizzardcuckolds are so desperate
>Running on a treadmill is the most fun it's ever been
I swear WoW whales are not even sentient.
>Oh boy farming the same dungeons every day/week sure is fun guys,
>doing roulettes every day sure is fun
Shut the fuck up, cultist shit.
>criticizing one shitty MMO means you play the other shitty MMO with the same issues
Lol
>it's ok because the other game that lives in my head rent free does it too
The actual state of wowfags
kinda ironic you're saying this considering its the xivtrannies that shit up every wow thread on Ganker
nobody is buying your larp, stop deflecting wow chud.
oh yeah i'm sure it's just a larp and it's not the fact that everyone can see it's the same butthurt xivtrannies that wow at 1/10th of its popularity still mogs their dead chud chatroom
the thread is about wow not final fantasy, stop coping. you should be worried about the community in your own game drying up and blizzard shitting the bed continuously. dumb moron
still the most popular mmo
still can find groups for pretty much anything at any given hour
still gets regular and, with DF, even more often update patches
cut the larp trannoid.
I do not care about your obsession, but m+ is shit and soulless.
millions of people seem to enjoy it
you opinion isn't worth shit
>millions
buddy I don't think they had millions of subs in shitolands, it certainly didn't feel like it at the end of slands. especially not likely after the chinks got cut off, try again mr shill.
over 4m m+ runs in less than 2 weeks
there's a large portion of the playerbase that doesn't even touch m+
this game still has millions of players. i know this fact upsets you, but it is something you have to live with
>this game still has millions of players.
you are funny
why does that make you so upset? why do you care so much anyway?
>upset
>at a massive self-deluding cope
????
i'm laughing, goofy
>upset
wrong one
xe's a wow player so this is more applicable
Millions?
There seem to be more than millions of people NOT playing WoW, though?
Hm..
>millions
tell me, are the ffxiv players in the room with us?
not at all, only objective Ganker browsers here that don't have a dog in this fight
:^)
thats right. i play both games. lol
Don't care. M+ is shit and soulless regardless of whatever other game you're obsessed with does.
Not only is it soulless, but with the new upgrade system an average player who only grinds M+ would be 10+ item levels ahead of a top 5% player who only raids. I don't know how anyone is still playing this shit.
>I don't know how anyone is still playing this shit.
Stockholm syndrome and monogamerism.
i don't know, so i'm asking: does the mythic+ tournament have a bigger audience than the world first raid race?
XIV and WoW have a lot more in common than you think. Both have amazing expansions (WotLK/BC and HW/SB), an overhyped expansion (Cata and ShB) and took an immediate nosedive in quality (MoP and EW). XIV is stuck with farts chasing a fad while WoW is infested with gays trying to push a political agenda.
Why can't we be friends?
shadowbringers and endwalker are not only the best stories in gaming, but possibly one of the best stories ever written. go away.
You're funny. ShB and EW are so disconnected from the overarching plot. ShB was nothing more than a tool to use due to the insanely bad choices of their higher ups. Who needs localized stakes when you can shit out a world ending menace like Mahvel
>ShB
>Disconnected from the Ascian plotlines
>EW
>Disconnected from the Garlean and Hydaelyn plotlines
>opens up a new avenue for exploring shards
>ancient spooky ghosts
>nah lets make them humans and create the most boring area in the game (a couple of floating circles)
Miss me with that shit fampai
DON'T PRETEND I'M YOUR FRIEND
>apocalypse happening
>haha bunne look for pudding
The only good parts of EW was the granny losing her shit and the fight with Venat.
you are the kind of player they made fun of in HW during the DRK questline
I was making fun of you for being the typical Zodiark chud who hates ShB and EW because your daddy ancients were just a bunch of retards.
Ancients were better as spooky ghosts. If they remained that way with a mention of their past here or there I would be content
This post right here is what happens when people cutscene skip or just watch it on youtube to pretend to know about the game (theyre seething WoW players)
>Other expansions didn't have world ending threats
What are
>Bahamut
>Thordan
>Alexander
>The Warring Triad
>Shinryu
>Omega
>The AuHispanices
Wow is shit and dead, deal with it.
Good shitpost
How is Cata overhyped when all of the boomers that got filtered by t11 still cry about it? If anything Wrath is the overhyped xpac, Ulduar was considered the greatest raid ever but server pop across the board has been dropping like a rock on all of them because of how bored people are.
ZODIARK TRANCE!
Yeah okay but ff xiv is not a mmo.
why
what changed in 10.1
nothing. the game is still more shit than ever
valor was removed
seasonal affix was removed
the shit affixes were removed or nerfed
and there's now a new item upgrade system which basically allows you to always progress your character regardless if you get drops or not.
Okay, unironically sounds good
My biggest problem with wow is how RNG dependent gearing is, I hope they start easing up on the RNG bit by bit
>valor was removed
and replaced with a new currency that makes you grind even more M+
>seasonal affix was removed
the good seasonal affixes were the only parts M+ that were ever fun
>the shit affixes were removed or nerfed
they're all shit
They fixed EVERYTHING!!!
10.1 flopped harder than a fish in the sun and players realized that the barely serviceable state of dragonflight launch was the best it's going to be for the next 2 years and so they probably left
which means the shillmachines need to intensify
It really is, we already reached legion 7.3 levels of good expansion
i guess wow still being more popular than final chud caused some gays to really lose it
after playing hc in turtle, i don't think i could ever play the game in any other way. i don't really like raiding and shit like that. i grew up on eve and runescape
the fact that wow is dead really chaps these shills' assholes
I wish WoW would make a good expansion so all the wowfugees infesting XIV would leave
but everyone left
who even plays final chud at this point?
game ceased to exist after the streamer grift ended
dont care chud both your mmos suck dick
just that watching wow die is more fun
lol
Explain to me who these new baddies are and why we haven't heard of them before if they're so powerful that the dragon aspects fear them
proto dragons. the ones that didn't accept the titan's gift after galakrond was defeated
Don't ask questions, bigot
They're vrykul in halloween costume is what they are.
I know normies and casuals don't give a shit about this but I quit WoW back in WoD because I finally got sick of them reusing skeleton/models from classic through WoTLK and not making anything new
has there ever been a bigger case of “success breeds jealousy” in the gaming industry than wow?
tons of people hate on stuff like breath of the wild but they can’t actively root for everyone to return their copies and refund their purchases or something like they can with hoping every single person unsubs from wow
I think you just mentioned it: Botw is the only game to come anywhere remotely close to how much jealousy seethe wow caused from its peak popularity. Maybe Fortnite too.
Minecraft would be the next candidate but it seems to have flown completely under the seethe radar and seems to still be overwhelmingly loved
WoW will never be good until levelling becomes optional and power is untied from equipment.
Leveling is one of the few issues they fixed recently with how fast it is and they finally got rid of making the main story required for every alt.
>Fixed
It will never be fixed until its made completely optional. There is zero arguments for forcing me to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends.
You won't ever see that in an MMO so why bother posting, the biggest one that attempted that was Guild Wars 1 and it was for pvp only.
Because forced levelling is holding back MMO's.
MMOs being a dated concept is what's holding back MMOs, they'll never be mainstream again now that the biggest appeal they had 20 years ago you can experience on Ganker or any other online messenger.
What that anon said. Levelling serves zero purpose in a modern MMO. The entire game is based around a gear treadmill anyway, why put a boring level treadmill in front of it just to force players to quit of boredom before they hit the cap??
It made sense 20 years ago when people took months to hit the level cap and the game was designed around your "Hero's journey", but its been streamlined way past that now
>levelling becomes optional and power is untied from equipment
I’ve honestly never heard a worse opinion, congrats
And yet you can't give a single counter-argument to either. I accept your concession.
the de-emphasis on leveling/the world is one of the root causes for wow getting worse and worse
the gear/progression treadmill is the single most important pillar of wows success
and you want to get rid of both, go play some other genre because you obviously don’t like mmorpgs
>the de-emphasis on leveling/the world is one of the root causes for wow getting worse and worse
I'm saying make it optional you fucking sperg.
>the gear/progression treadmill is the single most important pillar of wows success
I never said remove power you fucking sperg.
the backpedaling lmao
making leveling optional is necessarily de-emphasizing it
>power is untied from equipment
you quite literally said remove power from equipment
>making leveling optional is necessarily de-emphasizing it
Call it what you want. I shouldn't be forced to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends.
>you quite literally said remove power from equipment
Yes, not remove power you brain damaged fag.
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
you are probably one of the dumbest people i've seen posting on here, and that's saying a lot
And yet you can't give any counter-argument.
>nobody is forcing you to play an mmorpg
That's not a reason why the campaign is forced for every class I want to play.
>as if youre not going to then complain about whatever other system replaces gear
Just make power come from progress you spacker and tie it to your account so you can play whatever class you want. Gear should just be cosmetic.
>I hope you’re getting paid to do this or else it would be pathetic
You're literally shilling for free and having a meltdown when someone criticizes some bad elements.
>And yet you can't give any counter-argument.
counter-argument to what? you said you don't enjoy wow, you were told to go play games that cater exactly to what you're describing you want
if you are retarded enough to keep playing a game full of stuff you hate, i have no argument to save you from your subhuman tier iq and lack of time management skills
>you said you don't enjoy wow
I like WoW, what is retarded, and something you have no counter-argument for, is forcing people to play through the campaign and gear up every time they want to play a new class.
Still no counter-argument
Still accept your concession.
remember my first reply to you when I told you de-emphasizing leveling is what killed wow and you got mad and lashed out?
I think de-emphasizing levelling would make the game better and justified why. You haven't explained why forcing people to play the campaign every time they want to play a new class has any value at all. Nor have you explained why power should be tied to gear.
you don’t like mmorpgs, you should probably not play mmorpgs
ok, show me a single tab-target co-op game with WoW's Mythic+ system I can play co-op with my friends.
Idiot.
The funny thing is that wow has been so bad for so long that they’ve garnered an audience of people like you who don’t even like mmorpgs but like modern wow
I like the co-op (Dungeons and raids) side of WoW, the forced MMO garbage isn't fun in the slightest. You haven't given a single reason why it should be forced.
Give me a single reason why I should be forced to aim at people in an fps
Give me a single reason why I should be forced to complete a mythic raid before I unlock the campaign.
what..?
The campaign has nothing to do with playing end-game co-op with friends. Gating it by forcing to play the campaign is retarded.
>co-op is not onyl dungeons and raids, you fucking brainlet
I never said it was. But it's a big part of it
>90% of interactions players had before wow became the main game for subhumans like you were had in the open world
WoW has sharding you brainlet. You can keep areas populated by those that choose to do that content retard.
>this is made for people like you
That isn't a tab-target co-op RPG like WoW you brain damaged fag.
You literally have no counter-argument. I accept your concession.
>WoW has sharding you brainlet.
it has it now. and it also has nothing to do with what i said. my point was that you LITERALLY do not understand what an mmo is, at the most basic level
>That isn't a tab-target co-op RPG like WoW you brain damaged fag.
it's as much of an rpg as wow if not more at this point, lmao. and as for tab-targetting, too bad. you can't have everything. either switch to fps games and get what what you want, or stop being autistic and complaining
you went out of your way to develop the worst taste imaginable
>do not understand what an mmo is, at the most basic level
I don't care what you think an MMO is. You haven't given a single reason to force people to play the campaign every time they want to play a new class.
>it's as much of an rpg as wow if not more at this point, lmao
It doesn't even have a healer role. You're fucking retarded.
I'll say it again, all you have to do is dangle some mounts and cosmetics and people would play the campaign. People run 0 IQ old raids every week for cosmetics retard.
it's not what i think, it's what it is. it's in the name.
>You haven't given a single reason to force people to play the campaign every time they want to play a new class.
i don't think you should have to do that. again, modern wow is an abomination. for all i care, they could just remove leveling and the entire open world, it's not like i play the game. what i did was try to explain to you why that is never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to happen
>It doesn't even have a healer role. You're fucking retarded.
what you can't pretend you're a healslut with your fellow discord chud friends? too bad. teamwork and cooperation is what makes pve pve, not spamming the same three keys to heal
not to mention that all these games feature support characters so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
>I'll say it again, all you have to do is dangle some mounts and cosmetics and people would play the campaign.
yeah and all you have to do to get people to come back to wow is to create a satisfying leveling experience, write a decent story, and not shit the bed with every expansion in some way
but that is never going to happen. just like your delusional warframe version of wow is never going to happen
retail gays are truly the most retarded subhumans in existence, and you further confirmed it
>it's not what i think, it's what it is. it's in the name.
MMORPG does not mean "You have to play the campaign to unlock the rest of the game". I shouldn't be forced to play Half-Life 2 to play L4D with friends. You have no argument.
>what you can't pretend you're a healslut with your fellow discord chud friends?
WoW isn't even remotely the same as Darktide. It's laughable you're even suggesting this and it shows how weak your position is.
>yeah and all you have to do to get people to come back to wow is to create a satisfying leveling experience
All you do is make statements like "make is satisfying", "wow is an abomination", you haven't substantiated fucking ANYTHING you say and you STILL haven't given a SINGLE reason for force people to play the campaign.
What you're suggest is retarded as forcing people to finish a mythic raid before they can play the campaign. The two components have NOTHING to do with each other.
moron, stop talking about your arbitrary campaign marker. an rpg means leveling, gaining skills, and growing your character. this is the most basic feature of an RPG and has been for decades, even before RPGs were video games
>WoW isn't even remotely the same as Darktide
wow isn't. but your retarded dungeons are. only a megaautist wouldn't see the similarities in what is a pve experience with the exact same intended design
>>BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE MUH TAB TARGETTING
yeah like i said, you are an autistic retard
> you haven't substantiated fucking ANYTHING you say and you STILL haven't given a SINGLE reason for force people to play the campaign.
maybe because i said i don't care if people play some dumb campaign or level at all, lol. as for why wow is an abomination, it's because it's an amorphous blob without a consistent world, without any satisfying RPG elements, and with forced timegated content meant to milk you dry with dripfeed content over the course of months
and this isn't even getting into the awful story, music, design, etc, or even the gnomish pricing of what they're offering. private servers have better stability than blizzard's "premium" services
>What you're suggest is retarded as forcing people to finish a mythic raid before they can play the campaign
moron you are literally behaving like a lot. nobody cares. nobody really disagrees with you. both people in this thread are telling you you don't enjoy rpgs, which is absolutely true. but neither of us give a shit if blizzard remove leveling or whatever the fuck it is you mean by campaign in dragonflight. i told you they won't, because that won't allow them to charge as much as they do now, and money is all that matters
>this is the most basic feature of an RPG and has been for decades, even before RPGs were video games
Still haven't explained the value of forcing players to play the campaign. Could you justify forcing people finish a mythic raid before playing the campaign?
>only a megaautist wouldn't see the similarities in what is a pve experience with the exact same intended design
a 4 player DPS-only horde shooter even remotely similar to WoW's tab-target gameplay. Your position is laughable.
> it's because it's an amorphous blob without a consistent world, without any satisfying RPG elements, and with forced timegated content meant to milk you dry with dripfeed content over the course of months
and this isn't even getting into the awful story, music, design, etc, or even the gnomish pricing of what they're offering.
Again, more empty statements with literally nothing of substance to support what you're saying.
>moron you are literally behaving like a lot. nobody cares. nobody really disagrees with you. both people in this thread are telling you you don't enjoy rpgs, which is absolutely true. but neither of us give a shit if blizzard remove leveling or whatever the fuck it is you mean by campaign in dragonflight. i told you they won't, because that won't allow them to charge as much as they do now, and money is all that matters
Still no counter-argument.
I accept your concession.
just go play albion you fucking sperg
i'm playing wow as we speak though
>it has it now.
and it has layering since wotlk which its the same retarded shit
>it's as much of an rpg
a 4 DPS left4dead clone is like WoW
holy shit you're fucking retarded
You aren’t and the fact that the comparison flew so far over your head that that was your response is alarming
>I like the co-op (Dungeons and raids) side of WoW
co-op is not onyl dungeons and raids, you fucking brainlet. holy shit you fucking retards are so stupid. where did blizzard even dig you out from?
90% of interactions players had before wow became the main game for subhumans like you were had in the open world, not in the dungeons
what you want already exists
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361210/Warhammer_40000_Darktide/
this is made for people like you that do not enjoy rpgs and just want a pve coop experience
this. i'm not sure what the fuck this guy is talking about. if you don't see why people care about leveling up and progression in an RPG, you shouldn't even be talking
he has a point that nu-wow is so bad that you might as well remove leveling, but that's because the game is a piece of shit
in an ideal world, you would have satisfying leveling and a satisfying gear treadmill
>if you don't see why people care about leveling up and progression in an RPG,
I never said remove it, I said make it optional. What you're saying is about as retarded as forcing people with a mythic raid before they unlock the campaign. You're fucking clueless.
>make it optional
and how would they do that?
Just remove levels? You start the game and can choose the type of content you want to play. PVP, co-op PVE, the campaign, professions... It's that simple.
except the part where literally every single person would select to skip the leveling, because the leveling in retail wow is, again, complete shit. so if they did make this "optional" you might as well delete the entire open world and just make it a lobby-based game
don't get me wrong, the game is trash, and i can see why a retard like you that unironically enjoys mythics wants to remove the last shreds of what allows blizzard to pretend this is an mmo
unfortunately, blizzard will never do that, because the overwhelming majority of whales are not retards like you, but different types of retards that just want to log in and do the same weekly grinds for 15 year old skins, do their dailies, and then spend their time on reddit/discord/wow forums while they pretend that being logged in and afking in the capital is playing the game
>except the part where literally every single person would select to skip the leveling
And this is a problem because? All you have to do is dangle some mounts and cosmetics and people would play the campaign. People run 0 IQ old raids every week for cosmetics retard.
>And this is a problem because?
because then blizzard could no longer justify this being a B2P, sub-based game
why would you pay for this when warframe is free?
>is forcing people to play through the campaign and gear up every time they want to play a new class.
because their entire model relies on making you waste your time in the game on unlocking pointless bullshit and playing around rng. if blizzard allowed you to play and have fun, you wouldn't even buy a sub beyond a month
not to mention that for most of the wow sheeple, grinding for no purpose is literally what they consider fun. they're mazed rats that GENUINELY LOOK FORWARD to running the same raid for the 4189th time for the chance to get that one skin or mount, and see no problem with arbitrarily being given a chance to do it one time a week only
and as the game gets worse, they will keep locking more and more stuff to waste your time. it's the only strategy they have to retain subs, because god knows the game is complete garbage
back to fortnite zoom zoom
>I shouldn't be forced to play HL2 just so I can play Left4Dead with friends
nobody is forcing you to play an mmorpg, like I said earlier just go play some other genre
>Yes, not remove power you brain damaged fag.
as if youre not going to then complain about whatever other system replaces gear, you just want your little action figures ready for you to play with straight out of the box, you want power grinding removed, you don’t want to play an mmorpg
but you’re still in here SEETHING about the most success mmorpg ever made and one of the most successful games ever made, I hope you’re getting paid to do this or else it would be pathetic
people like you is why i quit retail forever
you are a cancer upon the genre. why you don't just go play DRG like a normal person or another coop game is beyond me
maybe play a different genre retard
>Why should I have to play the campaign every and gear up every time I want to play a different class?
>>THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS, SO THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE OKAY????????
>have to play the campaign
You don't have to play the campaign.
>gear up every time
Don't have to do that either.
>power is untied from equipment.
retard
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
No need for arguments, you're already seething.
>the wow shill is working overtime to cope
Took a while but he's finally here.
>farming anything whatsoever
>fun
anon please
mmo players are a different breed, don't upset them
thank fuck i don't play mmo's then. i tried playing wow classic when it came out but quit 10 levels in when i realized the """gameplay""" was brain-meltingly boring. like how masochistic you have to be to do shit like level every skill in oldschool runescape to 99, what the fuck is wrong with you
thats mmo's since forever
wow is good
retail WoW has been unsalvageable garbage ever since WoD
begone contrarian shill
>since WoD
ok zoom zoom
>z-z-z-z-z-z-z-zoom!
not an argument
dilate
Wowtrannies be wildin
They have to do something now that their game is dead.
reminder that 'barry' is actually the creator of the ZODIARK TRANCE comic he is also a chud wowfugee
>bazza having even an atom of skill enough to trace models for a comic
fat chance lmoa
what post are they freaking out about? i wanna see now
and of course the full list of trannies from an actual chud infested wowfugee discord dedicated to hating XIV simply because of the endwalker story
https://imgur.com/a/R4BsUec
this is who spams Ganker, /wowg/, and /xivg/
Pronouns, homestuck, cringe descriptions... this just checks all autism levels.
>wow is boring
>xiv is boring after you finish the msq
maybe mmos just aren't good?
sounds like a you problem
anyway it's fun to shit on wow's corpse so i'm gonna continue to do so
I made a note to myself, May 4 Dragonflight was 40% off
3 days later May 7 it was now 50% off
very based and SAME
the discord raid is here
>chud wow shill says im the one from discord
lmao cmon dude, get fuckin real
How the hell does this man still have his job?
failing upwards, happens in a lot of big corps.
and the full list of posts going in order
Dragonflight is fun but it's no longer a social game. Yes, there are other players but you treat them no better than NPCs. I played for a month, leveled to max and did some mythics - the only time anyone ever said anything was to shittalk after somebody died. Trade was full of people selling boosts, nothing else.
You guys unironically play this shit?
why is some of his armor blurry?
Good ol' Blizzard quality.
they're just jpgs painted onto your body instead of actual armor pieces
>His only job was to bodyguard the king
>King gets kidnapped
>"I wanted to suck a cock ok?"
I not good at english is awhile supposed to be a single word I thought it was a while
this new cope is pretty funny
>the game is good if you ignore all the bad parts
>so what if the story, lore, setting, and tone are all shit, it was always bad and I ignore it but I will also claim to love WoW
LOL
>the game is good if you ignore all the bad parts
and then what are you left with? killing the same 8 target dummies for half a year and running the same old dungeons for a small chance at good loot for the same amount of time if not longer
Imagine being a Blizzard fan. How embarrassing.
who the fuck said that hearthstone wasn't going to be pay 2 win?
also, diablo 3 did turn out better than diablo 2
>Overwatch 2 will be different with its very own PVE campaign for each character which will be available at launch!
>doesn't happen at launch
>still working on it!
>months later
>actually we're just scrapping it
>and also this is just Overwatch now, we're scrapping the 2
And Blizzbucks will still eat it up.
Maybe because I'm older now, but I don't really feel FOMO anymore. And after having tried out wow again, I felt nothing pulling me back to play it after leveling a new character and I finished the story. I'm certain that the only reason people play this game anymore is because FOMO drives them to. There isn't anything for a new player: the world is empty of players, you don't really get to experience any of the story leading up to Dragon flight, and you'll likely be flying through disconnected dungeons while leveling instead of learning about the world.
M+ is still shit and the only redeeming thing about the season is that the crest system makes it possible to get to 441 in the first two weeks so that you can go back to doing the bare minimum 8 +20s for vault each week faster.
I still don't understand why they're so adamant about the fucking timer.
Because the system makes no sense without the timer?
The baseline timer just signifies that you’ve completed the dungeon in a normal run as it was meant to be played
>Because the system makes no sense without the timer?
How so? It's a mode with an infinite scaling. It doesn't matter if you're going to brute-force your +x key since the key above will be a roadblock for you no matter what you do. The timer sterilizes everything. After a few weeks, there is only one route, one way to play the dungeon. It's an hamster wheel within a hamster wheel. It's shit.
would sitting around waiting for lust and full cds every single pull because there’s no timer be more fun or fulfilling?
No one forces you to play that way, you can still do your meta thing. But now you can play that way.
that would be the meta thing
And?
so your entire response is nonsensical because you falsely assumed it wouldn’t be the meta thing
What's your point? It doesn't matter if it becomes a meta, now you have the freedom to decide, either you rush, you do your own thing, or you brute force yourself and waiting for your cds at every pull. Who gives a shit? Right now is only one way to play. How can your rotten brain understand that?
Hello
WoW is still the best and most played mmo
Bye
I just debunked that
>the best and most played mmo
That'd be ragnarok online and final fantasy 14 respectively, as I'm sure we all know.
Lol. Imagine being happy with mythic+. Dead fucking game.
I wonder why nobody is playing Dragonflight..........
is that a kul tiran female?
Excuse me chud, they are Body Type 2s now.
It's a centaur.
BUT IT GETS WORSE
I quit in Legion because of the shitty forever grind.
Finally my old friends made me resub for Dragonfag. I fell for it and wasted good money on this shitty xpack. I lasted 3 weeks, mythic+ farming burned me out in a single week.
This is the single worst mechanic that has ever been invented in a video game. I'm not even sitting you. Every fucking week farming with drooling retards a shitty boring content just so you can raid. Fuck this.
>game gets easier over time
MMO's are retarded
cock ass dood I hate this game dood AARGH dog shit game dood Cocksuckers thanks for the 5 dollars donation thank you so much watch me get this mount WTF dood god ass game dood give me the mount already OH MY GAWD dood farming this mount for years already man Coldy got it like in one week dood mcconnel what you think of the game? what bad? no dood best mmo right now expansion is LITTY dood if I killed my mom? you banned I don't need to explain it to you stupid bitch you banned get out of my chat COCK ASS another wipe dood nooo who didn't do the mechanic? it's a two mechanic boss you just don't die you know what you kicked from the group dood I will not have my time wasted here dood get out of here anyway was really fun to play 10 minutes of World of Warcraft time to react for the rest of the stream
is there any hope for WoW?
Nope. It would require a miracle and a time machine.
no
its still the most popular mmo
retail churning out content at lights speed
classic about to get hardcore serves
life is good
The worst part about M+ is that it somehow manages to turn pure casuals into elitist cunts. You will have an absolute complete trash player who's never seen a raid on harder than raid finder difficulty handpicking people 20 item levels above him and acting like he's the best player in the world doing M+10 runs, and then ragequitting after 2 wipes.
I hate using this word but M+ is more "toxic" than any game I have played.
>The worst part about M+ is that it somehow manages to turn pure casuals into elitist cunts.
>Be tank
>Have ~3k rating
>Join a quick +16 run for being lazy
>Green-parsing shitter can't stop giving me tips.
That’s why I never felt bad griefing wowplayers any chance I could get
imagine it's 2010 and you're enjoying WoW and somebody pops out of a time rift and shows you this picture and says "This is the future of WoW".
What do?
by 2010 wow was already compromised
I'd think it's pretty cool, who wouldn't want to play a dragon?
Anthro races are the least problem with WoW. Even in vanilla we had cow people.
2010 was already cata, that was one hell of an awful xpac but even then I wouldn't believe how much worse it could get.
>2010
Game was already dead by then. Everyone I knew from the vanilla days quit during 3.0
And yet the bad shit back then pales in comparison to now.
Heckin yea I played 20 hours and my database integer went up by 0.5
POGGERS
>you WON'T believe this
>but first
>listen
>actually, lemme say this
>Blizzard is terrible
>anyway, let's check the new expansion
>check this out
>SLAMS
>I'll tell you what, man
>the point is
>fluid combat
>but you know what
>it's complicated
>lemme lemme lemme think of it this way
>as a moderate
>wow bad, but not that bad
>look
>here’s the thing
>*adjusts eyeglasses*
>I kid you not
>let's play on
>woke outrage
>culture wars
>I'm just some dude who raids in the back of a garage
>full stop
>I guess what I’m trying to say is this
>*adjusts jacket*
>I'm an Alliance dropout
>I used to work for Stormwind
>I was homeless
>get woke go broke
>it's nuanced
>Harumph I say!
>I try to keep these short
>get a copy editor
>let me break it down for you
>raid analogy
>horseshoe theory
>Blizzard is eating itself
>that's nuts
>I dunno, man
>it’s actually kinda scary
>think about it
>Marvel movie analogy
>*claps hands together*
>I will say this
>I can respect that
>but at the end of the day
>I'm a milquetoast fencer-sitter
>store mount good, wow token bad
>i'll wrap this up
>thanks for hangin' out
Asmon loved it, cope and seethe xvitrannies.
has anyone here ever cleared the temple of veeshan when it was current?
#1 mmo
>Farming
>Fun
XIV doesn't have you constantly farming and its the best thing an MMO has ever done
you're gonna trigger some vindictive ex-wowfugees with that statement
xiv isn’t an mmorpg it’s an always online jrpg with player lobbies and co-op
final shart is second life for trannies, fags and pedos
its not an mmo
its not an rpg
>mythic plus
Imagine doing the same 30 minutes of gameplay over and over like you are a retard playing League of Legends.
As fuck awful as people say Shadowlands was, it had way more to actually do than Dragonflight.
you missed the chance to say Dragonblight, you dunce
WoW encourages a community of minmaxers for content that doesn't need to be minmaxed. Most annoying fuckers on the planet
>People constantly ask Blizzard to just let every race play any class even though it'd break lore to do so
>Blizzard holds off on doing that for years until they finally decide to lax up a bit and let more races be certain classes even though it breaks lore
>People start bitching at them for doing this and saying that they're killing their game
What
Wow it's almost like that playerbase consists of more than a single person!
Maybe that's why games who's developers have vision do better than ones who let a million voices randomly decide their direction each patch....
>Wow it's almost like that playerbase consists of more than a single person!
yeah it consists of both a gay, a furry AND a gay furry.
you forgot chud
but otherwise keks
although blizz desperately wants trannies to play wow, they unfortuantely play finnofancy
yeah?
what did blizzard mean by this?
No, people wanted more somewhat sensible combinations. Zandalari Warlocks (Demoniacs), Night Elf Paladins (that one cunt in Legion), etc.
Not Lightforged Warlocks that are literally the antithesis of one another.
wow literally has no less than 3 generations of different player types and attitudes who were once fans, every single change they ever make to the game for the rest of time will be criticized
blizz could've made such changes and it could've made sense, but they did it late and made some stupid changes on top of that. classic blizzard shooting themselves in the foot
Anyone else enjoying Dragonflight? Best expansion in years.
cute
why does this game look so goddamn awful jesus
ART TEAM IS CARRYING
i think it looks great
That is some beautiful fog for real.
because its running on a 24+ year old engine?
Because it literally came out 20 years ago?
Schizodwarf '''''doxxer''''' from wowgee, that you?
who?
(You)
no i legitimately wonder who/what you're talking about it sounds interesting
>no i legitim-ACK
There can only be so many players of this dead chudshit who play femdwarf with that exact face and hairstyle combo and who happen to shill dragonshite on this website, chud. You can stop pretending.
I'm not that guy that posted that I'm asking for the lore retard
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/386605854/#386622018
wow will never change wow will never change!
Ever since WoD, always the same! Couldn’t keep their hands out of the lore! But not our wow! Couldn’t be precious wow! Mazing them blind! And now wow gets to be good again? What a sick joke! I should’ve unsubed when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop
What are you talking about? It looks amazing.
reminder this is a shop outfit
and it was so halfbaked it cut off the beard if you had one
not sure if it still does
>installed b net
>clicked on CLASSIC pls try it out xd
>i actually got dragonshite for free instead
Fucking ew. I uninstalled that trash right away.
how much do wow shills get paid
sorry but shadowlands was the straw that broke the camel's back
i endured shitty expansion after expansion, mostly thanks to my guildmates and my friends that kept playing
shadowlands killed my love for the franchise, and i heard my guild disbanded before sepulcher
so many sweet memories in this game, i'd like to keep them like that
the game i liked has stopped existing at the end of wotlk
For me, it was Zangarmarsh.
peak wow was something else, man
it's such a terrible feeling to see the game in its current state
1/10 is better than a 0/10 I guess. Still haven't played since Legion and will continue to not do so.
I've been enjoying my friend's slow realization that Aberrus is an undertuned piece of shit with easy simple mechanics.
What's better is the new gearing system makes the issue even worse.
Abberus is just entirely devoid of soul, isn't it?