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Kneel
I...... kneel...............
DS2 is just.... pretty damn good.................
Gomenasai Mitsubishi-san...
He had nothing to do with DS2.
>charging money for a patch
For what? For loving the game? Never.
sorry
no, the game was shithouse.
SotFS is objectively a worse version of the game but i do love original DS2
As someone who has vanilla but still hasn't tried it, but has over 1000 hours in Scholar, I'm just wandering...
1. Are people serious or trolling when they say they prefer vanilla?
2. Are they talking about pre-patched vanilla, or post-patched (with DLCs included)?
Its just contrarians. "oh no one likes base ds2? uhhh wait I do!! Its way better!! more than 1 enemy? call me a Heide Knight!!"
trolling
They're morons or shitposting. Or nostalgically autistic and resent even the littlest thing different. Scholar is better 99% of the way. There's scripts or design in the vanilla game I swear must be broken and aren't working that just isn't a problem in scholar. Torches dont ward off spiders in vanilla etc. In Undead Crypt you're supposed to avoid hitting the bells to prevent getting ganked by enemies spawning in. And in vanilla they just spawn anyway no matter what. And then these morons have balls to act like scholar just throws nothing but ganks at you. Sure it does if you're dumb and impatient maybe.
It sounds like speedrunner type autism specifically. I guess that is where the overlap with ds2 and trooning out comes in, it caters to the same speedrunner mentalities that get them to troon out.
you sound like a troony
iron keep alone makes vanilla less garbage, not by much though
I legit prefer current patch vanilla
Vanilla is superior. The enemy placement and constant ambush complaints came with SotfS, the visuals aren't ugly and overexposed like in SotfS, item placement is more sensible.
Positives of SotfS are that the walking deadzones are fixed (which you can patch in the original) and that it's easier to get started with a PvP character.
Worst take itt
Sorry no lore additions. Game is not canon :^)
The lore additions? Brilliant. The progression changes? Bold. The PvP? Filtering.
sorry you turned out so shit
but really you should apologize to me you motherfricker
What a terrible game and fanbase.
Why do you keep posting these threads? DS2 was universally hated around here when trailers and promo screenshots for it dropped and were shown to be lies. And the game is extremely milquetoast in the end, we were all there for the disappointment. Why do you insist on revising history?
They know, this is what suicidal people do before they exit life. Every time you see a ds2 thread pop up rest assured that a troon is at the end of his rope and about to exit the stage.
Because the game is good.
Why do you keep opening threads about a game you apprently hate?
I love shitting on dark souls 2 though.
So you probably do like the game you just stir the pot.
No I hate it it is broken mechanically. It is terrible.
I could. I just talk about what I want in threads I see. No DS2 thread means I'd go find a different trans game and go talk about it in there.
>I'd go find a different trans game and go talk about it in there
Are Transformers games good? I haven't played any.
No, they tend to have a suicidal fanbase. They could never get over Starscream.
>Hbomber guys makes video about game
>fanbase gets hijacked by trannies
>Suddenly X game is "troonycore"
That fricking bald, leftist, communist, twat needs to die.
Fair enough. But you couldn't do it if there aren't any DS2 threads, am I right?
Because you troons are spamming the board with several a day.
Cartoons? wtf?
You might be dyslexic
Well, I'm sorry for not speaking discord or twitter English, or whatever the frick that is.
>discord troon acting coy
cute, also
>phonegayging
Nice one, Iphone Columbo.
>troon waddled xerself to the PC
all of that for me?
I think you should get a new material. And, by that, I mean valid points. Not randomly generated ''labels'' and ''names''. But it's not like I give a frick.
>not like I care about (you) b-baka
sorry, i'm not into dudes that play turn-based games
>universally hated around here when trailers and promo screenshots for it dropped
so they hated it before playing the game? and ds2 haters were just extremely biased when it came out because of that unjustified hate? this is extremely interesting, thanks for this post anon. I now understand the situation better
Everyone hates ds2. Even its fans play a modded version.
> this is extremely interesting
It isn't interesting, its going to be a thread that hits bump limit of the same topics every time. It is about browbeating you so your self perception keeps devolving into barbarism.
don't worry anon, I perfectly understood your first post, no need to try fix it
it could even be called eye opening
No it isn't eye opening it is going to be the same thread as always.
>DS2 was universally hated
?
He clearly meant
>It was hated among youtubers that I follow, not Steamtards and console peasants who play games.
yeah
If he wasn't a femboy, he would have 80% less viewers and subscribers. Imagine making such a bad video that even DS2 haters dislike it lel
You will never be an oldgay
>"People hate it therefore i must hate it"
Holy shit Ganker is filled with sheeps
>the game is shit therefore i hate it
yes
Best game in the series
I'm sorry I even pirated that piece of shit.
For years I heard that SotFS was the better way to play.
Now apparently thats considered 'Hard mode'. Sure wish I knew that before I sullied my opinion of DS2
It's a souls game. Why would you play the easier one?
Several areas of the game are much easier in scholar you fricking tryhard single player esports gay
No I don't think so Tim
I don’t need to apologise for anything, I was the one in one thousand defending this game on this site while every ds1 wienerrider smashed it to pieces for daring to be different.
Dark Souls 2... the game that dared... to be different.
I know that is meant to be a ds2 dis but honestly it just makes me think ds1 and 3 had no original ideas
Nothing crafted by human hands is "original". Everything is inspired by something else.
What inspired people to make the first pyramid?
Geometry.
It's just a fake mountain
This is either some really good bait or the highest grade of cope ever conceived.
Great job anon, you really earned your (you) wih this one.
typical ds2 troon, the levels of mental gymnastics used to defend every aspect of the game are something to behold
t.
Low effort cashgrab romhacks don't deserve an apology, and vanilla ds2 doesn't need one because it was always great.
I'm sorry... you're still the third best soulsborniwohkiringlike game
worst in the series, no amount of whining on an anime forum will change this
it's so beautiful
hell yea
just like you 😀
This was my first souls game, I would die on a hill fighting for it
Sorry for what?
No it sucks and it's linear, like 3 and frankly Bloodborne too, which is pretty linear.
it's the least linear souls game though
if anything it should apologize to me.
>start game
>no pyromancy
I will not apologize for anything
>start with deprived
>run to Heide Tower
>cheese Dragonrider
>consume his soul, raise your HP to 1350+
>drop down to Majula well fully naked so you can survive
>all the way to The Gutter
>after the frst bonfire, avoid enemies and roll into one of the barrel that has Dark Pyromancy Flame
>there's also fragrant branch in that area
>go back to Majula, unpetrify Rosabeth
>buy first pyro
Not the best solution, but hey, it exists. And you only need to kill aka cheese one enemy.
Dont show this to ds2 haters, they still think its linear.
Most classes can also 2h the morningstar you find near majula right away so you can actually fight those golems in Heide if you don't want to just cheese.
Yes, and not just that, there's also a chime in Majula if you want to play as cleric but NOT as starting cleric class. Cheese must be used if you want to play as pure pyromancer, no weapons. In fact, cheesing Dragonrider is a must if you are pure miracle user with no weapons (because starting cleric does not have offensive spells, and the first one can be bought from that kneeling b***h)
why would they even not have it as a starting class
that's some bs
Or play scholar and buy a branch from melentia 10 mins into game
>12k souls 10 minutes in
Have you tried playing games without cheating?
People who think SotFS' fricked up pacing of the early game is better are trying way too fricking hard on an anonymous mongolian basketweaving board.
It did have some great ideas, like Bonfire Ascetics, PvP is certainly better, Soul memory's a bit of a b***h but it prevented lol invasions which I respect, it also has the most replayability out of any dark souls game and introduced powerstancing.
Other than that however...
>Infinitely worse OST
>The souls game with the most bosses and 90% are forgettable garbage
>World is the least consistent, despite being in development for so long it's still obliterated by DS1
>ADP was a fricking mistake, letting the player have control over their iframes is moronic, and in turn all hitboxes turned into inconsistent visual jank
>Worst boss runs, oh boy I sure love having to use a fricking bow and poison arrows just to not have a stroke trying to fight Smelter Demon
>Shrine of Amana is the prime example of bad game design, it's le hardcore but not fun
>Have to use summons to complete character questlines
>Hollow prevents summons but not invasions which is fricking moronic
>Lifegems were a fricking mistake
>Sniping in Iron Keep
You WILL fight 17 Alonne knights at once and you WILL love it.
>Soul memory's a bit of a b***h but it prevented lol invasions
I feel kinda bad, but just kinda, when I invade people in Forest and Heide Tower with my 30k char and late game equipment.
It was worse in DS1 since you got paired with players according to their level.
>and in turn all hitboxes turned into inconsistent visual jank
This meme is still not dead yet huh
>Meme
I have 180 hours on DS2, I experienced half of these.
Always the same shit video with 90% of the "hitbox bad" being clear hits on the player. In fact very first example in the video shows the player getting hit by the stab, but you complain and think it's unfair because the grab animation plays at the end of the enemy attack instead of instantly. There are so many cases of this in the video. That's not a hitbox issue, that's a limitation of their animations.
And just as many examples are of people rolling, their player model clearly getting hit by the enemy weapon, but complaining because "I was rolling I'm supposed to be invincible"
I would tell anyone to look closer at the "issues" in this video where the low quality allows for it and stop perpetuating this meme in the most literal sense of the word.
>That's not a hitbox issue, that's a limitation of their animations.
So the hitboxes don't line up with the animations, and in turn you have janky hitboxes
Wow
No, the hitboxes line up. The players correctly get hit by the attack. The successful grab animation simply does not play until the first stage of the animation has finished.
This is not "le janky hitbox" It has nothing to do with a hitbox issue.
Some more examples from your video where the action is clear enough to make out:
>0:09: weapon model intersects with player model and player takes damage, huh?!
>0:11: rolls straight into the foot of the stomping dragon, gets hit, wow
>0:26: gets hit in the foot with a sword while rolling, where's muh invincibility B-team grr
>0:27: gets hit by the lunge from the pursuer his sword passing through his player model for several frames, the player gets grabbed as intended, how could they release such a broken game??
>0:37: gets hit by massive wing of a giant dragon, falls over and takes damage, what were they thinking
>0:39: gets hit by a huge metal knight with a mace, but he was rolling so we should have gotten out for free omg
>1:57: ducks under blade and doesn't get hit? wtf bad hitboxes!!!
>1:58: shit video quality makes this hard to see but the enemy leans back and narrowly avoids the blade, wtf it's bad in this game but good in other game!!
>1:59: stabs at an enemy, the first stab which connects with the enemy visually is registered as a hit, the second stab which does no visually connect with the enemy is registered as a miss, omg how are these hitboxes so le janky!!1!
etc.
Yes there were some fricked up misaligned hitboxes that weren't even consistent in DS2's earlier versions, but the complaints from angry morons blaming any frustrations on that unfair hitboxes thing they've heard about went way out of control.
>0:26: gets hit in the foot with a sword while rolling, where's muh invincibility B-team grr
>Somehow that ends up with being being fricking teleported from the side of the attack to the point of the sword
Stopped reading.
Cope and seethe. You will never unfrick DS2.
>Get clearly penetrated by sword
>Clearly take damage from being penetrated by sword at the instant it hits you
>In your moronic mind think "heh, clearly I did not get hit by that attack despite the sword penetrating my body and dealing damage to me and can no- WAIT WTF I GOT HIT AND AM NOW GETTING GRABBED?? FRICKING HITBOXES REEEE"
What's wrong with you?
Allow me to illustrate
Me on the bottom
I like how people pretend like DS2 is the only game with problems, as if other games don't have them. Yeah, let's pretend like FS was a competent developer before Demon's Souls. All their games are loaded with glitches and bugs; especially Sekiro. Sekiro is a game where you hit an enemy once, go back 3 meters (~19,35 average toothbrushes in US measurements) and the enemy stops following you for no reason.
DS2 must be a pretty good game to be the only one held up to the standards of vertex-perfect hitboxes for all attacks.
You don't see people slowing down the footage of DS3 animations to see if there's actually three inches between a blade and its hitbox. Not that you'd need to since it's commonly accepted to be the case in that game.
ok, if you say so.
Holy cope
Shrine is an iq test and you got filtered. It’s such a fun and well designed area.
>Everyone complains about shrine
>only died once
The average dark souls 2 hater wouldnt be able to finish something like sekiro.
Daily reminder that it's impossible to have an honest thread about this game because of that one mindbroken DS2 schizo.
If you begin seeing a pattern, you're not off your meds, he's off his.
Sorry it turned out like this. It could have been a good game it they had more time and someone that actually understood souls game.
Tanimura understands Souls pretty well. Miyazaki had him co-direct Elden Ring after all. The problem was the game got scrapped like two times.
for what? It's the best DS game by far. Looking forward to my 8th play through later this year
Why should I apologise for playing the best game in the series?
THIS IS THE BEST ACTION GAME SINCE NINJA GAIDEN II
Ninja Blade is the best action game since NG2, yes, I agree. But this is a thread about Dark Souls 2, the last role playing game in this series.
Its the best Dark Souls by far it has the most depth: