Arceus

Did he create the Ultrabeasts and Necrozma?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He created the conditions for all life, everywhere.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. Either directly or indirectly depending on how you interpret it.
      Palkia handles the different worlds and its a part of its power.

      If so, do you think it would have been better if Arceus was the final Pokemon to ever be revealed instead of introducing him and the creation trio in Gen4? Or perhaps never revealed at all and only left to legends or speculation?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that could be a separate thread

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        We've never seen Arceus. This is it's Jesus equivalent.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We literally did. Your second sentence also reaffirms this.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In gameplay

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              We literally did. Your second sentence also reaffirms this.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong.

          Its as detailed as Dialga really.
          In SM they do address it directly, in Burnett's lab, they just don't use it for the story.
          [...]
          >If so, do you think it would have been better if Arceus was the final Pokemon to ever be revealed instead of introducing him and the creation trio in Gen4?
          Any time is as good as any, it'd be unrealistic to expect a planned last gen after Gen 2.

          >Or perhaps never revealed at all and only left to legends or speculation?
          Depends on how its executed really.
          If it is like Mew where it directly told you it exists then no, its better that its usable.
          If its something very abstract where you could even question a mon created the universe at all then maybe, but I don't see the point of doing that.

          there's nothing to use abomination, Palkia is all of space.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Utilize, if you prefer.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              He's space and he incarnates the essence of space and Dimensions

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rayqyaza is space retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                African

                >life existed before or contemporary to the original one
                Source?
                >You didn't see Arceus creating it.

                >And you repeat "worlds" like a retard when obviously the term is dimensions
                Pokemon uses them interchangeably. 空間 is for both.

                >Also the games say Palkia is space, so your autism is still ridicolous
                When the fuck did I say otherwise?

                [...]
                And?

                >Source?
                PokemonDiamond, Pearl, Platinum, Legends and PTSD
                All he did was creating this dimension, he's very far from creating life. Actually, all pokemon that aren't normal type, aren't created by him.
                >yourube link gayry
                That doesn't show Arceus creating it.

                >Pokemon uses them interchangeably. 空間 is for both.
                It also makes a clear distinction

                >When the fuck did I say otherwise?
                When you say Palkia "could have the power of" when space is HIM

                >And?
                And space is Palkia. Meaning he can do anything with it. Meaning that comparing it to Hoopa=autism.

                The only limits he has is being caged in his dimension by Arceus, that probably does so that space exists, but he can't control it. Because the pixies keep him closed and since he's space if he can't move it means he can't do shit due to Arceus's parasite existence

                Other than that, normally he has all the powers. On a side note, the youtube link you posted proves that there's 1 palkia per universe, so anyway one can only control that universe. Still, comparing it to solgaleo and Hoopa is autism

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there are only two anons on Ganker
                Autism

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You pretend that the games dont explain "Palkias powers" when they state he's space and his existence allows and stabilizes space meaning he can do anything with space, unless under the red chain

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You pretend
                See

                >there are only two anons on Ganker
                Autism

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and the third legendary in SV is Mr crystal head! Jiggly!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And it's also a giant

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >PokemonDiamond, Pearl, Platinum, Legends and PTSD
                You're not detailing, that's not a source.
                >All he did was creating this dimension, he's very far from creating life. Actually, all pokemon that aren't normal type, aren't created by him.
                kek

                >That doesn't show Arceus creating it.
                It literally does, where do you think the Dialga/Palkia/Giratina come from?

                >It also makes a clear distinction
                Where?
                They literally smashed these two together

                >When you say Palkia "could have the power of" when space is HIM
                I literally didn't say so.

                >And space is Palkia. Meaning he can do anything with it.
                When the fuck did I say otherwise anon?

                >Meaning that comparing it to Hoopa=autism.
                No one did.

                > the youtube link you posted proves that there's 1 palkia per universe
                Space is a thing right at the beggining before anything happens. I mean that aside from the fact that event happens concurrently with Lucas/Dawn dealing with Palkia preexisting. You literally don't have the literacy level to understand these games anon. Remember what it says on the backo f the box. If you don't reply with a proper argument that actually makes sense I wont even bother anymore.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're not detailing, that's not a source
                You won't get it anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retard.

      Wrong, life existed before or contemporary to the original one, Arceus didn't create shit and the conditions for "ordered" spacetime were created by palkia, dialga and giratina.

      Yeah. Either directly or indirectly depending on how you interpret it.
      Palkia handles the different worlds and its a part of its power.

      >different worlds
      Autism refugee center is here?

      that just reminded me how silvally got cucked by dexcut and the shitty remakes, silvally was created to fight UBs but it is also an artificial arceus, it feels like it could have had a cool role in the gen 4 remakes if BDSP hadn't been so "faithful"

      but to answer your question, i guess maybe depending on how you see it, but i also thing a creator of all UBs would be a neat concept for a future game

      Retarded gay that didn't understand a single shit about any lore of gen 7 so its autistic subhuman brain thinks "why not taking this other lore and mishmashing it with all others so that nothing makes sense anymore just because I didn't understand it?"
      Because you're retarded. IQ=0

      Really pisses me off how Palkia's whole thing has never really been detailed, and was completely taken by Hoopa and Solgaleo/Lunala.
      You should at least see Palkia in a ultra wormhole as an Easter egg or something

      What even? The autism here is scattering everywhere

      [...]
      If so, do you think it would have been better if Arceus was the final Pokemon to ever be revealed instead of introducing him and the creation trio in Gen4? Or perhaps never revealed at all and only left to legends or speculation?

      Mental retardation downie institute is in this street?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >life existed before or contemporary to the original one
        Source?
        > palkia, dialga and giratina
        You mean the things we literally saw Arceus can create?

        >Autism refugee center is here?
        Literally the game says so.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Source?
          Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum and Legends Arceus and PTSD
          >You mean the things we literally saw Arceus can create?
          You didn't see Arceus creating it.

          >Literally the game says so.
          And you repeat "worlds" like a retard when obviously the term is dimensions . Also the games say Palkia is space, so your autism is still ridicolous

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >life existed before or contemporary to the original one
            Source?
            >You didn't see Arceus creating it.

            >And you repeat "worlds" like a retard when obviously the term is dimensions
            Pokemon uses them interchangeably. 空間 is for both.

            >Also the games say Palkia is space, so your autism is still ridicolous
            When the fuck did I say otherwise?

            He's space and he incarnates the essence of space and Dimensions

            And?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What even? The autism here is scattering everywhere
        What?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh look you're back.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You have to be baiting

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's a known retard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tl;dr meds now btw

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Husband! Get off the internet and cum to bed! ;^*

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. Either directly or indirectly depending on how you interpret it.
    Palkia handles the different worlds and its a part of its power.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Really pisses me off how Palkia's whole thing has never really been detailed, and was completely taken by Hoopa and Solgaleo/Lunala.
      You should at least see Palkia in a ultra wormhole as an Easter egg or something

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its as detailed as Dialga really.
        In SM they do address it directly, in Burnett's lab, they just don't use it for the story.

        [...]
        If so, do you think it would have been better if Arceus was the final Pokemon to ever be revealed instead of introducing him and the creation trio in Gen4? Or perhaps never revealed at all and only left to legends or speculation?

        >If so, do you think it would have been better if Arceus was the final Pokemon to ever be revealed instead of introducing him and the creation trio in Gen4?
        Any time is as good as any, it'd be unrealistic to expect a planned last gen after Gen 2.

        >Or perhaps never revealed at all and only left to legends or speculation?
        Depends on how its executed really.
        If it is like Mew where it directly told you it exists then no, its better that its usable.
        If its something very abstract where you could even question a mon created the universe at all then maybe, but I don't see the point of doing that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Palkia handles the different worlds
      Wrong. The fact that parallel universe Cyrus has his own Palkia disproves this. Every universe has its own creation trio.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Palkia, already handles the concept of different worlds.
        There are different Palkias in different worlds. Play USUM.

        >It is said to live in a gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours. It appears in mythology.
        >https://www.pokemon.jp/special/mystery/file/03.html

        there are multiple variations of Earth's universe but there's no evidence the creation trio exists in the worlds that the UBs are from

        >there's no evidence the creation trio exists in the worlds that the UBs are from
        We've literally seen that one of those worlds is derived from the main setting.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >We've literally seen that one of those worlds is derived from the main setting.

          ok, where?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Guzzlord's, already mentioned in the thread.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              guzzlord dimension is an alternate reality of earth. nothing proves that arceus created or is indirectly responsible for the creation of every dimension across the multiverse

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >guzzlord dimension is an alternate reality of earth
                That's literally the point. If its like hte main setting(which we know is made by Arceus) then its also made by Arceus unless you want to apply the convergent evolution meme.

                >nothing proves that arceus created or is indirectly responsible for the creation of every dimension across the multiverse
                There's more evidence in favor than otherwise.

                Lorefully Aether foundation stole research from lillies family to make type null and the real 3rd one is roaming sinnoh. BDSP did not do anything with this story at all. They added hardly anything
                a good remix of the plat story with a delta episode of rainbow rocket and type null with a battle tower would have been servicable. Zmoves and megas (new megas) and more hisui with a timey wimey delta story for girantina would be kino, a second post game region with its own delta episode stories and stuff like battle maison or PWT, battle tree, subway... they oculd have fucking tried to make a good game

                Who do you think controls aether?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    that just reminded me how silvally got cucked by dexcut and the shitty remakes, silvally was created to fight UBs but it is also an artificial arceus, it feels like it could have had a cool role in the gen 4 remakes if BDSP hadn't been so "faithful"

    but to answer your question, i guess maybe depending on how you see it, but i also thing a creator of all UBs would be a neat concept for a future game

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lorefully Aether foundation stole research from lillies family to make type null and the real 3rd one is roaming sinnoh. BDSP did not do anything with this story at all. They added hardly anything
      a good remix of the plat story with a delta episode of rainbow rocket and type null with a battle tower would have been servicable. Zmoves and megas (new megas) and more hisui with a timey wimey delta story for girantina would be kino, a second post game region with its own delta episode stories and stuff like battle maison or PWT, battle tree, subway... they oculd have fucking tried to make a good game

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They made Sinnoh, that's it. Their beta design was way better than this ugly shit.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    By the way, the essence of the original one that divided into Arceus probably didn't even give a shit about life, as stated by Legends he didn't give a shit about humans, let alone common pokemon. He's just a pussy scared of giratina until giratina pushes a Celestial to him and he starts liking humans, for being similar to him

    Meaning that the most credible possibility is that he ccaused the creation of the universe to yes have all elements and have space and time but the creatures that came out of it were "accidental", included its own division in Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf and the Unown , possibly regigigas, just as every pokemon and human isn't but the fragment of all the giants, the universe is composed of fragments of the giants, included the OG one and nothing else.

    Another perspective on the matter is that he didn't even want to "create order and the universe" but all he wanted was to kill the giants, and that process caused the big bang or the original dimension to become what it is now, with giratina still appropriating what was of the old dimension, which in fact works as a base for the new one that without it can't exist

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He is the creator of the universe; the thing is, Pokemon exists in a multiverse, so it's entirely possible that anything that originates from outside of it (like the Ultra Beasts) aren't his creations. Impossible to know with certainty without actually asking him, but even if he's responsible for a million alternate universes as well, it's also just as likely that there's a million other ones out there that he didn't create that are overlapping and interacting with the ones he did.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This was already addressed in the thread, there's no reason to think it didn't create all of them as one part of its power, Palkia, already handles the concept of different worlds.
      Not to mention we know of multiple universes created by Arceus(the ones where we can play games in) AND Guzzlord Ultra Space which is similar to those.
      The lowball is that there are multiple Arceus that created a single Universe each.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one cares what you have to say, autist

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ywnbay

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        anime Palkia creating multiverses is NOT canon. game canon Arceus only created THE universe, OUR universe

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't question me. I have the facts on my ßide

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anime Palkia creating multiverses is NOT canon.
            who even brought up the anime
            >game canon Arceus only created THE universe, OUR universe
            Arceus is not real anon.

            every pokedex entry states that Arceus is the creator of the universe. someone give us GAME CANON evidence that Arceus created the multiverse and Ultra Beast dimensions

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              > Arceus created the multiverse and Ultra Beast dimensions
              There's multiple in this fucking thread moron.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                where bro?? quote them. im waiting

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You wouldn't understand.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              arceus= yahweh

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anime Palkia creating multiverses is NOT canon.
          who even brought up the anime
          >game canon Arceus only created THE universe, OUR universe
          Arceus is not real anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Palkia, already handles the concept of different worlds.
        There are different Palkias in different worlds. Play USUM.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Palkia handles the different worlds
          Wrong. The fact that parallel universe Cyrus has his own Palkia disproves this. Every universe has its own creation trio.

          Those are non canon what ifs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          there are multiple variations of Earth's universe but there's no evidence the creation trio exists in the worlds that the UBs are from

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            even if the creation trio doesn't exist in the UB worlds, that doesn't mean arceus didn't create their worlds and the UB themselves

            the only other possibility is there are other beings that also exist outside of any time or space like arceus that created their own realities as well. i doubt they would write that though at this point

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the only other possibility is there are other beings that also exist outside of any time or space like arceus that created their own realities as well

              I have a feeling there will be some time in the distant future just so they can up the power creep even further, and trump arceus with another universe creator tier pokemon

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technically speaking, yes.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    he is supposed to be yahweh - omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. so yes

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    arceus isn't real

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The one true god sudowoodo created teh universe

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