Are water coolers a meme?

Are water coolers a meme?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get what's best for the price.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    largely yes
    do your research and establish your price-range for a cooling solution

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How so?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they're not necessarily any better than an air cooler in the same circumstances

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They are more flexible than air coolers. As cooling requirements increase and space decreases, liquid coolers become more effective.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so they're a meme unless you're overclocking or doing other things that are too strenuous for air coolers

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >space decreases
            This is a meme choice for morons.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They're almost unilaterally better, but you don't need them unless you're manually overclocking tbh.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >quieter
          >lowers temperature more
          >works better in the summer
          >pump pushes colder air inside the case
          >more breathing space for GPU

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its pointless
    any 120-140mm tower cooler is plenty

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cooler and quieter, even cheaper in some cases if you get Arctic.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's pointless

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you your cpu actively consumes more than 150watts pretty much.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ryzen runs hot though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only the models that will actively consume 150 watts because it's a fricking high end cpu

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Now you're just lying.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            moron why do you think their high end cpus don't come with coolers? The lower models do but the high ones don't. There is a reason for that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >7800X3D comes with a cooler
              lol?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No it doesn't. I bought one two weeks ago. No cooler.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                because it has a tdp of 80 watts. All of their processors with tdp higher than 105 watts do not come with cooler, this is mostly their high end ones.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >80W
                Another lie.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                so it wouldn't come with a cooler if it had a tdp of 120w

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                full load testing shows it only goes up to 86W

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >7800X3D
                That's not an HEDT processor.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes. they aren't any quieter or better at cooling. plus if you use them for a few years they can get clogged.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't find one that seemed to actually be good. There are air coolers everybody agrees are fantastic but not really the same for AIO's.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i've been through a number of AIOs and two custom loops in a number of computers over the years for both myself and family members. Don't really recommend it anymore when modern tower and duel tower coolers do a dam good job and have less issues in the long run and seem more robust in their construction.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Unless your whole system is on water it should all be on air. The rad takes up a lof of space and will choke your gpu out. Simple as. Scrapped my 280mm corsair AIO for 2 140mm fans in front and 1 120 as exhaust with a noctua nhd15 for the cpu and it knocked 10c off the gpu while keeping the cpu similarly cool and much quieter.
    Frick AIOs.
    All water or all air. Dont mix the 2.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did you front mount it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No it was on top and it choked the gpu out by drawing all the front mount fan air towards it. I tried mounting on front and having fans blow from the top and it was equally shit for obvious reasons.
        I smoke tested it in every config i could think of. The thig was loud as frick too. AIOs are a gimmick. It kept the cpu cool but everything else suffered. On air the whole system runs better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why lie anon?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Idgaf what you Black folk use. Thats what i experienced. All in ones are shit. Only a masdive rgbtq homosexual would use them. Noctua nhd15 out performs any moron aoi and the system runs quieter. Enjoy your constant impeller motor and replacing them every couple years, newbies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did you have your radiator set up to intake air on the front of your case?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. Exhaust on top with 2 140 static corsair maglevs.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are water coolers a meme?
    Fell for the meme years ago, it clogged up (almost like clogged arteries), stopped cooling, everything that was clogged couldn't be accessed, had to throw the whole thing away including CPU that it cooked.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They’re loud as hell

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not 2009 anymore gramps.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No they're not, unless you're using some cheap chinkshit.

        Hell is quiet because it doesn’t exist

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Picrel is with the meme NZXT AIO as well. Arctic is even better.

          Idgaf what you Black folk use. Thats what i experienced. All in ones are shit. Only a masdive rgbtq homosexual would use them. Noctua nhd15 out performs any moron aoi and the system runs quieter. Enjoy your constant impeller motor and replacing them every couple years, newbies.

          My AIO doesn't have RGB, nor can I hear it. See

          It's not 2009 anymore gramps.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Arctic

            Trusting anything from this company.....holy frick.....

            Do you recommend Zotac and PNY too?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Okay, elaborate.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                pretty sure the graph is from gamers nexus but do go on.

                I've built several PCs for people over the years and have delt with various makes/models. Arctic of all companies is absolute dog turd.
                The cpu coolers are ok at first but you find out very quickly that the fans start to get noisy on them because of cheap parts. Then you notice the temps dont remain as cool as what they originally were.
                I aim to build silent model pcs which push in a large amount of fan intake to keep cool but remain almost silent but be of high quality parts. Arctic isnt any of that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay well I have both Noctua and Arctic fans and both have similar noise floors, only a little worse on the Arctic which was 5x less the price.
                My PC is dead silent with the Arctic AIO.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Noctua fans are vastly superior with add LNA included with them. My cpu fans only run at 800rpm and my cpu temp never goes above 50oc.
                Arctic fans use cheaper parts which degrade very quickly and effect performance.
                What your saying is you have some noctua fans but then cheaped out and added in shit ones to compensate.

                All your doing is putting more work on the decent parts because of the crappy arctic parts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >with add LNA
                Is your PC 15 years old? Why would you need to use the adapter?
                >never goes above 50C
                That doesn't mean anything to me without telling me what CPU you have, what the ambient is, what case you have etc.
                >What your saying is you have some noctua fans but then cheaped out and added in shit ones to compensate.
                Wow you're a genious! A product that costs 5x less isn't as good!
                And my PC has all Noctua fans..

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >And my PC has all Noctua fans
                >I have both Noctua and Arctic fans

                Care to explain why you choose to be a lying shit anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so fricking moronic?
                I bought a 5 pack of Arctic fans for my friends build. Tested them in my PC first.
                Actual ape. I hope you don't reproduce.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              pretty sure the graph is from gamers nexus but do go on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Youre using an aio so youre obviously moronic. Your gpu is loud and hot because instead of having fans you have block of alliminum hogging up exhaust or intake. Theyre dumb. All air or all water unless youre a moronic homosexual.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              My GPU is silent and runs at 40-50C depending on the game / ambient temp.
              What case do you have that only has 2 exhaust spots?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >dumb moron ape cant into fluid dynamics

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Black person i have a 280mm corsair aoi with 2 140mm corsair maglev static fans sitting in my closet. Aios will cool your cpu just fine but theyre fricking loud (i dont care what test GN does because you need to crank the fans up to high unless you want your cpu running at 80c) and they prevent the gpu from dissipating heat properly. End of story. Custom loop or all air. Combining the 2 is homozoomer shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                just put a fan in the back of the case for back exhaust, solves any possible heat issue the GPU would have. I've been using a set up with the CPU's radiator on top of the case and it works great

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No. It doesnt. The rad fans suck up much of the intake fans. Plus the fricking gpu heat heats up the radiator. Aios are moronic and anyone itt that thinks otherwise is a total newhomosexual subhuman.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why would an 800 RPM fan at the top of the case suck in more air than an 800 RPM fan on the CPU heatsink?
                You don't make any sense...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >800rpm
                Youre joking? Mine ran constantly at 2000rpm at 5ghz.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So your testing methodology is flawed then? Got it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                with an air cooler your case temps will go far higher with both it and the GPU heating it up
                The heat ends up dissipating somewhere along the line in both situations as long as the overall airflow is fine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No they're not, unless you're using some cheap chinkshit.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It really depends on what hardware you are using

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Short answer - yes
    Long answer - yes because it's either A) actual water cooling which requires a reservoir inside your pc that you need to top up. If that leaks anywhere then your fricked.
    If its B) then its modern liquid coolers which are actually Gel which they claim is none conducive. However if it leaks then your still fricked.
    Imagine you dont go on your pc for 2 days and without you knowing it's been leaking everywhere or its dried up and fried the GPU etc.

    Then there's the performance side of things because liquid cooling is shit and needs the radiator cooling constantly with either x2 3 or 4 fans running at at least 2000rpm each.

    You'd recieve better performance, less worry and less hassle installing a decent cpu cooler like a noctua or one of those clones of them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're mixing up AIOs with full on water cooling setups. So is OP.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No I'm not that's why I separated the two between A and B.
        Water cooling is a joke meme for low iq morons who think flashing lights are cool because of their ADD issues.
        Water cooling is just used to scam people into buying a product that isnt needed and if anything effects performance more and puts risk on everything else.
        It's like putting a ticking time bomb inside your pc and then acting surprised when it fricks up

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no I'm not
          >does it again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry your moronic anon. It mustn't be easy being you.
            I can lie if you like and tell you your pc with the big ass meme cooler and Christmas lights is super cool if it makes you feel better

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's no 2010 anymore, aio coolers are fine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Aio cooler tech hasnt changed since before 2010 except gay lights.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fine if you want trash because you've been fooled into meme product.

            Do you eat vegan too because certain people memed you into that as well?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >trash meme product that cools better aluminum chunk that takes up 1/3 of your pc case
              okay boomer

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your moronation is truly impressive anon.
                Meme cooler takes up all your front end case or all the top of the case.
                If your using a shitter square model at the back then you lose even more.

                Your aware the low profile noctua out performs these liquid coolers you love so much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Surely you have actual proof that noctua out performs liquid cooler and not hearsay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >all these neck beards with their moronic aois with 90 day warranties and multiple fail points just because they think they look cool
                Have sex, virgins.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Time to go back to pre-school homosexual.
                Since when is 6 years 90 days. Lmao.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Youre just lying to yourself thinking the cool factor of an aio outweighs the massive negatives of all the fail points and how frickhuge they are. Once you grow up you want reliability, less hassel and performance. Not homosexual lights, cyberpunk tubes and memefluid. Your gpu would objectively run cooler with all air. Ditch the homosexuals shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hey homosexual go change your ram underneath that massive chunk of aluminum on your motherboard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why would i need to change my ram you moron? Try cleaning your stupid fricking rad. Enjoy that shit every couple months.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you want reliability
                Yes, I am aware that a Noctua cooler would be more reliable over time. However my AIO was also half the price. So pick your poison. In 5-8 years when I replace it, I'll have better tech and an even cooler / quieter system.
                >homosexual lights, cyberpunk tubes
                My AIO doesn't have RGB, I already stated this twice.
                Doesn't matter anyway, I have a solid side panel.
                >your GPU would objectively run cooler with air
                It is air cooled.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I meant your gpu would run cooler with a cpu tower cooler instead of aio. Aios are massive heat sinks and they frick with airflow no matter how you cut it. I dont care. I fricked with aios i still have 2 and theyre moronic. My shit runs way cooler and quieter no mstter what some zoomer moron on Ganker watched on memers nexus that cant oc their system says. You do you.
                You idiotd should do your own tests instead of thinking you understand steves.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                gamers nexus does factory tours of obscure fan parts lmao.

                ?si=m3PUkCtUAhrOLNhj

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And a CPU cooler isn't a massive heatsink that fricks with airflow?
                I did my own testing, homie.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Of course it is but instead of a memefluid cooler it blows all the heat out the back instead of storing it in a 280mm fricking radiator, liquid and tubing. Its also in the middle of the case right above the gpu so it brings cold air from the front over the back plate of the gpu and the gpu blows the shit around the case so the big ass dual noctua fans blow it all out the back.
                You Black folk are delusional. You will get sick of hearing your gpu ramp up to 90c and go for a tower cooler. If not youre an idiot.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok well call me when that happens gramps. I already told you my GPU temps

                My GPU is silent and runs at 40-50C depending on the game / ambient temp.
                What case do you have that only has 2 exhaust spots?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                None of that means anything doofus. Full load is the test not "depending on the game". And if your under full load and its 40 to 50 c you are absolutely full of shit because no modern gpu runs that low st full load.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Of course it is but instead of a memefluid cooler it blows all the heat out the back instead of storing it in a 280mm fricking radiator
                That doesn't make any sense anon. Both AIOs and air coolers use a radiator. Both are blowing air through the radiator to exhaust the heat out of the case. With AIO the radiator sits at the top of the case so the heat is immediately exhausted out, with air the radiator is sitting in the middle of the case and the hot air is dissipated over the motherboard before it's vented out.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                All of gamers nexus tests show that aio coolers have better cooling ability at the same noise level of noctua air coolers. Keep coping I guess.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Over about 10 minutes. The water heats up and all that advantage (1c lol)is gone after an hour.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hey moron the thermal mass of the water means it takes longer for it to reach max temperature under load than an air cooler.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My arctic AIO has 6 years warranty.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Had a quiet water cooler that worked really well for about three and half years before it just stopped working. Switched to a Noctua CPU fan so tall it doesn't allow me to close the side panel, both have been excellent.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're pretty and I like that the radiator contributes more fans to the case's overall circulation, but unlike air coolers you do eventually need to replace them when the pump breaks.
    I still find them worth it.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a frick off huge Noctua.

    Less hassle, better cooling, all you have to do is keep it clean and make sure it's spinning vs the absolute nightmare that water coolers can be.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    Almost nobody overclocks their system. The only reason to get a better than stock cooler is if you're running it at a higher temp. Unless you actually know what you're doing when it comes to overclocking there is absolutely no reason to run anything but the stock cooler your CPU came with, or maybe a non-stock air cooler.

    Water coolers used to be a thing you did when you were super into tech and were effectively showing off how much more performance you could eke out of an overclocked system.
    Now zoom zooms will put them in and then never even boot into bios because they don't even know what that means.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why the FRICK would you ask Ganker anything tech related?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >posts /gpol/'s standard spam image
      >pretends Ganker knows anything about technology

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and you're honestly going to pretend Ganker knows anything about technology?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          surely nobody believes that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Water cooling is always a meme.
          >buy an AIO and hope it's set up right
          >set up custom loop with radiator and hope you set it up right
          >can do just as well even on high end CPUs with just the single tower single fan Noctua
          And don't give me any bullshit about "noise". I guarantee none of you homosexuals do anything with your systems where computer noise is a concern.
          >oo there's some white noise in my microphone
          You're a Gankeredditor. At most you're using some VOIP system assuming you have the courage to talk to people online; most are terrified of the prospect because they have nasally little b***h voices and can't say a word without stuttering that has noise reduction built-in. Your parents are going to hear you mouthbreathing, pressing keys, and clicking the mouse over fan noise anyway.
          >but what about
          Giant towers that fit full ATX boards and have plenty of space for a 4090 + a full suite of hard drives is a must, even if you aren't using that fat blob of a GPU. Tiny cases are for homosexuals afraid to have a computer visible or homosexuals who may as well just use a laptop with an external monitor.

          Ganker at least knows how to compare numbers. Ganker is busy talking about elon musk gossip and what text editor is slightly more hipster than the next one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I have an ATX case for my main PC but I want to build a second small mATX PC for the lounge room. I like the idea of small and a lounge PC doesn't need large data storage. ITX seems fun but too overpriced while mATX seems like the sweet spot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depends of the application, but for the average normie PC who uses a $250ish CPU, you dont really need one, an air cooler will do.
      Also you should be avoiding 120-140mm WC, only exception you would use one of those is you build an ITX, just get the 240 at minimum if you really need it.

      >Ask on Ganker
      Frick those fhomosexuals, he wanted answers on hardware, not on HRT pills.

      Also don't buy Noctua if you need a good air cooler now, Deepcool and Thermaright made some great coolers that cost a fraction on what a Noctua or a 240mm WC costs. There's also the Snowman M-T4 if you need a cheap one from chinkexpress if you are a 3rd worlder, I have used several of those and they work amazing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >not on HRT pills

        why is this board so obsessed with trannies

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Clearly you have never visited Ganker

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >talking shit while using brave

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    air coolers are still better imp but water coolers are also good if you move your pc around a lot

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Air cooling will last much longer, particularly Noctua stuff but some AIO's such as Arctic are literally half the price for better / quieter performance. I guess if you want to put your PC in the corner for 10 years without a hiccup, go for air cooling.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Displays on coolers might be the stupidest shit I've ever seen advertised for PCs.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >More points of failure
    >Not that much cooler if at all
    >maybe aesthetically more pleasing to some
    eh

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. You'll have better temps and your computer will run quieter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/muIFCOV.png

      Are water coolers a meme?

      Kind of.

      They are not quieter. I don't know who says that.

      >ticking sound of pump and bubbles
      >fans on outside of case
      >fans aren't usually Noctua quiet

      Also they fail pretty badly and more often than an air cooler.

      With all that being said I've used one for the past 9 years on my 4790k and it keeps it very cool and quiet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >my 10 year old AIO has problems
        Wow, and water is wet!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't have problems. It makes noise sometimes. It's been doing that for pretty much ever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well, it's not 2014 anymore gramps. Times have changed.
            What brand might I ask? Inb4 Corsair lmao.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Theyre all made by the same fricking manufacturer dumbshit. Lol. Its all the same plastic impeller, pump, shitty silicone tubes and cheap ass rads.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why do I have to repeat myself...
                It's not 2014 anymore Gramps.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This guy is being autistic for no reason. Boomer autism.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yup. H110iGT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They are not quieter. I don't know who says that.
        me
        bought an AIO for my current PC and its noticeably quieter compared to my old PC that was using Noctua fans. not saying they were loud or anything but you could definitely hear a noticeable hum to it.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's funny when people ruin their 4090s with poorly plugged watercoolers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And even more with poorly plugged cables that get too hot and end up burning lmao

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, unless you're a benchmarkgay air coolers will do just fine, hell, unless you're running shit specifically to benchmark them you'll be just fine with the stock coolers

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >half the price
    >5 degrees cooler
    >quieter when cooling 198W
    It's over Noctua bros...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Trusting a website that gets paid by these companies....do you watch fricks like that dood loser on tube too

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Funny.
        One thread I get called a moron for not acknowledging Gamers Nexus benchmarks. The next I get called a moron for using Gamers Nexus benchmarks.

        So what about this one? It's not Gamers Nexus

        Picrel is with the meme NZXT AIO as well. Arctic is even better.
        [...]
        My AIO doesn't have RGB, nor can I hear it. See [...]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You dont understand the tests or that all in one coolers become massively less efficient over time as the water heats up thus causing your fans to increase speed and noise.
          Whatever. There is a reason noctua is still im business with ugly ass fans and big ass towers selling for $130. Because over time they are better and only a total "whoa looks so cool" dumbass doesnt know.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dumbass.
            I used Noctua coolers for over a decade, my first being the D14. It's currently in my HTPC 14 years later.
            However they are outclassed now by AIO's in both performance and noise.
            I don't give a shit what they look like. I have a solid side panel.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Youre full of shit but enjoy your broken water tubes for that .05c difference.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >broken water tubes
                works on my machine
                >.05c
                I already showed a 240mm AIO was cooler / quieter than Noctua, and by 5C.
                You've yet to give any evidence.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I also used to love my aio until i actually had to use it for a few hours and realized the water gets hot and all that extra cooling it was once doing turned into a my fans running at 2000rpm and all the benefits of water turned into a detriment in the closed loop. Couple that with the gpu being partially starved because the 2x140mm fans were sucking up half the air and now my gpu is hitting 80c. Switching to a noctua dropped my gpu down to 65c and i can run the thing all day and not worry about it becoming heat-soaked.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >samegayging

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Im replying to you Black personbrains. Im wxplaining why GN is bullshit because closed loop aios stop performing at their peak and drop off after a couple of hours of use once the water heats up. They require frickhuge fans that pull air away from your gpu which causes them to run hotter. Having a tower cooler fans blowing right over the vrms helps with overclocking. There is more to a frickinf system than muh noice and cooling after 10 minuted of gaming. Shit heats up and needs fresh air constantly. Aios are dogshit. If youre going to do water build a custom open loop and put everything on it and if you dont air is going to be better overall.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then show us tests / evidence of this. Stop spouting the same dogma for a dozen posts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Look it up moron. Its a closed fricking loop. The water heats up. My corsairs liquid would get up to 50c running blender with 2 140mm fans. My gpu would throttle hitting 85c sometimes. The airflow sucked because i had to populate half the case in exhaust fans to accomodate the 280mm rad. I had 2 140s in the front and vape tested it and watched most of the intake air go right out the top. Believe whatever you want. GN is good but he doesnt run those aios for 3 hours under load. Its like 20 minutes. The liquid heats the frick up and just soaks the rad and the tubes keeping heat in the case. Then it starts not cooling the ihs as well. Its been a known problem with closed loops forver.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >look it up
                You're the one making the claim. I've already posted my evidence, now post yours.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Enjoy your cooler newbie. You posted gn about sound (who fricking cares when you gpu is hitting 777 levels) and 20 minute sessions on a non-overclocked cpu test. Im talking about actual real world applications. Not running cpuz. Pic rel is my source, wronggay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't seem accurate. If what you were saying was true, then every AIO would start shitting their pants after a few hours. The point of the AIO is that the coolant is closed loop so you don't need some tard trying to maintain it, but that doesn't mean HEAT is closed loop - it is meant to be exchanged via the radiator and the fans. That's the point of the whole system. I don't know about GN, but literally a decade ago when we were still writing reviews on web pages in text instead of it being all zoomer video nonsense, oldgay review sites handled both AIOs and custom loops and ran them for more than just a few minutes, and then went on to run them in our systems consistently. There was a time when sustained OC testing was literally hours of linpack or prime95 etc..so it isn't like the thing never got a chance to heat up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He accounts for this though. Picrel.

                Enjoy your cooler newbie. You posted gn about sound (who fricking cares when you gpu is hitting 777 levels) and 20 minute sessions on a non-overclocked cpu test. Im talking about actual real world applications. Not running cpuz. Pic rel is my source, wronggay.

                (you)

                Better safe than sorry, I don't want liquids near my components and I'm not paying x2-x3 more for -5c less.

                You know it's non-conductive, right?
                >paying 2-3x more
                What are you buying? My Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240mm at the time was half the price of the D15 and 2/3rds the price of the U12A. Obviously prices change but it's about 1/2 the price of the U12A.
                Thermalrite Assassin is cheaper yeah. A good choice.
                Spirit is about the same price.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Im not saying they shit their pants. Im saying that after a couple hours they dont cool as well. Sure for a few hours it could be 5c cooler but once the rad, pump, tubes and water become heat-soaked they become less efficient. Then the fans actually have to start working full steam and all those nice lower decibles go out the window. Not that it matters since the fricking gpu is always 50x louder than anything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they did a speed run blowing up a power supply lmao. Companies hate these guys

        ?si=Ub-6jh0ujJ7inwH-

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lemme know when its enclosed into the shroud or cpu heatsink, no pipes no tubes etc. then i'll give a shit.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are air coolers that perform better (Noctua D15). The only advantage AIOs have is they can be mounted near the air intakes in limited sized cases or cases with poor air flow.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    do you have an exceptionally hot CPU? my computer literally would melt if not using water cooling.

    >yes its old

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    for your 10 year old i3, yes

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I need clearance around my CPU and can't fit a normal cooler
    Get an AIO
    >I have room for a normal air cooler
    Get a normal air cooler.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    explain why this wouldn't work

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      add volumetric flow rate + temperature and surface area dimensions + temperature

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because the air that comes out of a window unit is moist af.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's why you would put a moisture trap in between

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The condensation from the A/C would fry your PC.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Generally, no. These days there are so many of them and made idiot proof that you can get an AIO water cooler that is easier to install and gives better performance than many comparable heatsink-type coolers in a price bracket. Now, building a custom loop is not a meme either but it is way beyond what the average gamer needs and costs are considerable.

    Overall there are a handful of situations, but most of the time especially if you have a higher end gaming CPU it helps to have liquid cooling. I generally suggest that you get the handful of unique AIOs that have a different design. Note how the vast majority of AIOs , from even big names like EK to NZXT to Asus and Corsair all kind of look the same? That's because most of them are using the same design (usually Asetek) with some variations in pumps, blocks, but usually the same aluminum rads, same thickness etc. Where you can get ahead is by looking at unique designs, notably Arctic Liquid Freezer II (with or without A-RGB) which has a unique cooling block and a thicker radiator than most other AIOs, while also being relatively cheap and very reliable. You can make it even better by swapping out the fans for higher performance ones made for radiator use - the arctic ones are great but there are better if you're willing to pay etc

    Anyway, liquid cooling is not a meme. However like anything, you need to look at your hardware and consider your goals for price/performance, raw power, or other factors.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need more than this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I love this hunk of metal and plastic like you wouldn't believe. Cut my temps in half and doesn't make a sound.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE is great price/performance, but its not going to out perform a a 240/280mm much less 320mm rad AIO that's halfway decent. It does however embarrass Noctua's heatsink shit that's twice the price last I checked.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but its not going to out perform a a 240/280mm much less 320mm rad AIO

        Holy fricking cope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Phantom Spirit version is better though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I can testify with that. The PS 120SE is truly amazing.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone put big coolers onto the CPU when its the GPU that overworks and needs cooling

    $2000 PC builds with LEDs and water cooling but GPU is being cooled on stock 80mm fans lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My GPU has the Morpheus II cooler on it.
      Cut temps by 40% and noise by 100%.
      Too be fair I did have a dogshit stock cooler.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      GPU is different animal too after-market cool compared too CPUs but ya people should at least learn too disassemble and apply thermal paste particularly if you plan too use the same card for like 5 years.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes they're a meme, the pump or the pipes end up eventually failing and causing a mess inside your PC, just got with a Thermaltake Phantom Spirit 120 SE if you need a cooler now or wait for the Noctua NH-D15 gen 2 that's coming in Q2 of this year.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When was the last time you ever heard of somebody having an AIO leak?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Better safe than sorry, I don't want liquids near my components and I'm not paying x2-x3 more for -5c less.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cool jet engine

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, just get a tower cooler.
    Even just a single tower will be fine in most cases, and if you really want you can slap two fans on in push+pull configuration.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What would be the best cooler for a 7800x3D? I've heard good things about the Deep cool AK620.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I use an AK620 but follow the Ganker pcbg rec:
      Phantom Spirit 120 SE
      Peerless Assassin 120 SE
      Scythe Fuma 3 (small form factor, ram clearance, ITX)
      Deepcool AK620 (only if you can't find anything of the above)

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You gays all suck. Aio are homosexual and giant heat blocks are homosexual. Actually build a custom loop you asinine monkeyfrickers.
    And most aio is oil not water. Or how would you know gaytard?
    Making parts and cases soft for gays was a mistake. Legos and fisher price be damned
    Plug in a bunch of shit and you gays act like you cured cancer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Giant heat block
      wat?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >custom loop
      Literal troonyshit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pinched a nerve homosexual, good feel the butthurt you crave.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >samegayging this hard
      who knew aircooling gays would get so upset? i guess because they did buy the inferior product after all...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Samegayging is responding to your own posts newhomosexual. Not responding to posters. I own 2 liquid aios and 2 tower coolers. Gpu temps are better with an airflow case and a tower cooler. Enjoy your non-relevant temps and noise on your stock clock cpu.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >yet to show any evidence
          >btfo multiple times already
          give up already homie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >custom loop
      >spend hundreds just to eventually spray water all over
      How about no.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes. just get a normal cooler and it'll keep your shit cool enough. play some video games instead of fricking about on pointless shit

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >half the thread
    >"water cooling is efficient, quieter and better"

    >the other half
    >"water cooling is a meme, loud as frick and expensive"

    So which fricking one is it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My first post

      Get what's best for the price.

      If you have a higher end CPU, consider an AIO. Otherwise

      Depends of the application, but for the average normie PC who uses a $250ish CPU, you dont really need one, an air cooler will do.
      Also you should be avoiding 120-140mm WC, only exception you would use one of those is you build an ITX, just get the 240 at minimum if you really need it.

      >Ask on Ganker
      Frick those fhomosexuals, he wanted answers on hardware, not on HRT pills.

      Also don't buy Noctua if you need a good air cooler now, Deepcool and Thermaright made some great coolers that cost a fraction on what a Noctua or a 240mm WC costs. There's also the Snowman M-T4 if you need a cheap one from chinkexpress if you are a 3rd worlder, I have used several of those and they work amazing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it keeps your shit a bit cooler but its kinda pointless

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If your build is 2000$+ you might want to check it out, otherwise a simple CPU Block fan will do the job.
      Watercooling add a lot of complexity to your build, and more maintenance and risks. And you still need fans. You can get mold, corrosion, leaks with water cooling. You might need to flush your liquid, or replace joints.

      If you want your PC to have a 1000$ CPU and a 2500 GPU, watercooling is probably your best bet, otherwise stick to the rivers and lakes you are used to.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're mostly memes, but do check your cpu's temps before you buy it. High end cpu-s might benefit from water cooling.
    Gpu-s on the other hand benefit greatly from water cooling. You're basically an idiot for not buying an RTX 4090 without aio cooler. Imagine the sag from that oversized air cooler. I imagine water cooling will be common when rtx 50 series comes out.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yea, I was at a computer store and I saw this kid with his mother there. he was trying to convince her that he NEEDED water cooling.
    what a waste of money, I felt bad for that attractive mom and her dumb son.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Good fans aren't that noisy and last forever.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just want gards with CPU fan mounts so i can drop big brown fan on the GPU.
    They don't get hot because they're not watercooled, they get hot because of the low surface area and shitty fans. If they had pushpull 120mm fans on a big block of alu things would be different around here, and you wouldn't need a plumber to install your PC.

    Water is gay.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >need a plumber to install your PC.

      this literally made me laugh irl and spill tea down my shirt, thanks anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        just imagine how much worse it had been if that tea was all over your computer. Friends don't let friends watercool their gaymen rig.

        You can do this, just unscrew the entire shroud and attach 120mm's to your gpu with like, cable ties

        It's ghetto as hell but my aging rx580 has never been running cooler or quieter

        a ghetto rig was my introduction to cpu fans on gpu's as well, it's effective.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can do this, just unscrew the entire shroud and attach 120mm's to your gpu with like, cable ties

      It's ghetto as hell but my aging rx580 has never been running cooler or quieter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rajintek Morpheus.
      Runs my 2080ti at 50C at 600RPM fans.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely yes. When I see cases with 12 fans pulsing pussy pink in them strapped to radiators and I feel that something went horribly wrong. The irony is that I run an AiO, but I get what you're saying.

      explain why this wouldn't work

      You could make this work with adding a carbon filter unit from a grow rig between the aircon and the PC attachment point.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Last time I built a pc was 10 years ago, so when I saw air coolers are now huge chunky blocks of metal I decided to go with AIO. Unless they make CPUs run less hot everything will use AIOs soon, you can't just slap more and more heatsinks, it's not sustainable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't just slap more and more heatsinks, it's not sustainable.
      what the frick do you think radiators are? it adds price and complexity to what could have easily been achieved with a few CPU fans, alu blocks, and plastic sheets to create better air pathing(last one is a protip from me to you).

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >requires to be installed in the right orientation and that's it
    >depending on the model you can double it's efficiency by adding a second or third fan
    >maintenance is just cleaning the dust with compressed air
    >Best models go toe to toe with high tier water coolers while costing half the price
    I definitely overspent on my noctua u12s redux, but I'm so fricking glad I didn't fell for the RGB water cooler meme. If you're not doing productivity work in a 13900k you don't need a water cooler.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shitty ass meme for morons who think water in their electronics is good

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I went from an 8 core Ryzen 5 to a 12 core Ryzen 9 and my machine started ramping my fans every time I played anything intense to the point of spot hoovering. I ran that with a Coolermaster tower. Nothing I could do would fix it from curves to opening the case. So in desperation I got a basic Fractal 240 on sale. Top mounted. It runs like a goddamn dream. I do think you only need it if you're at that point, but when you are, it does work. It moves the heat point outward instead of just blowing on it, so other parts like your GPU have a chance.

    As for GPU cooling, again, that's a use case scenario, but you would basically destroy a Sapphire XTX if you were to waterblock it, but a PNY 4090 is a prime candidate for a really expensive fricking loop.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For anything other than Intel CPU stronger than the 13700K or AMD Threadripper, AiOs are a meme.
    For anything else, air coolers are just fine, if you don't OC.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They kinda are, and kinda arent. 95% of computers dont need them. Unless you want peak performance for peak peak computer parts, you do not need water cooling.
    But that's from a Canadian who do not heat his house in the winter. If you are in Phoenix, maybe air cooling is worse than water cooling, but I never had a temp issue with air cooling

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    meme for zoomies who cant do a custom loop

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guys my rear fan is starting to sound like a diesel generator what should I do

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Buy a new computer that is passively cooled and only play games made before the year 2000.

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