Are we still pretending that this is a bad game?

Are we still pretending that this is a bad game?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no, we're not pretending

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yea my favorite part is the bosses that don’t do anything

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a funny way to say that you haven't played the game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/bi1zBVv.jpg

        Are we still pretending that this is a bad game?

        >Deeper combat, strategic fundamentals, improved rpg mechanics and character customization, and more challenging gameplay than DS1
        >Not so one dimensional or braindead as DS3's railroaded progression, stats don't matter rpg mechanics, and hit the iframe button at the right time being the only gameplay combat
        If you value gameplay, depth, freedom and exploration it's one of the best action rpgs ever.

        its extremely lacking in polish but I still prefer it over 3 where it feels like the whole game was made on autopilot. 1 and demons are the best souls games

        > shit on the bosses
        > 'uhhh but what about these one or two dlc bosses!'

        DS2 babbies have to use the dlc as a crutch, even though the dlc's include such garbage as the run to Sir Alonne and Blue Smelter Demon. They have to keep spamming these shitty threads because they're so insecure about their game.
        No one thinks you're Le based, they think you're a desperate contrarian shitter with horrible taste and no arguments other than
        > ummmm what about Majula?
        and
        > ummmmm what about power stancing??

        Your meme game will always get shat on as it rightly deserves.

        Bloodborne > DS3 = DS1 > Elden Ring >>>>>>>>>>> DS2

        Take your ADP, your horrid level design, your shite bosses, your clunky gameplay your vile visuals, your life gems, and shove them up your ass.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          DS2 level design is way more sophisticated than Bloodborne. Play the game before parroting your favorite youtuber, tendie.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're a peabrained retard who has no idea what you're talking about.
            > Play the game before parroting your favourite youtuber
            This is what you do and you are now projecting it onto me.
            > tendie
            I don't own a nintendo console but thank you for letting me know how obsessed you are.

            Funny how you were completely unable to provide a valid rebuttal. You Ds2 babies are always like that - can't provide a counter argument without mentioning the other games (usually DS3)

            As I said you think you're Le Based when in reality you've got shit taste. Your meme game is a laughing stock KEK

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think your reddit opinion has any legitimacy next to me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > still no argument
                kek

                > uhhhhhh but i've played the other games too?!!!

                You can't help but mention the other games. You still haven't provided an argument. Like I said, DS2 babs are incapable of doing so.
                You can have ten thousand hours in DS1; doesn't change the fact that you've got shit taste for liking DS2

                > PClard seethes and copes over Bloodborne
                Many such cases!
                > Ganker bab seethes and copes over reddit out of nowhere
                Many such cases!

                From now on, everything you say I shall quote with a crying soijak.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fucking amateur.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >DS2 level design is way more sophisticated than Bloodborne
            BHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          DS2 is the only game that properly makes use of the stat scaling system. Fire scaling with the higher of int/fth, dark scaling with the lower, infusions working with weapon buffs and even being available on caster weapons, literally any stat build can be made to work. Even a pancake build works with mundane.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can use a fire, chaos, or lightning weapon in ds1 for every build

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Literally slides on the ground to turn
        >Supposedly the best DaS2 boss
        Absolute fucking garbage

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The DLC was good otherwise but this boss felt kinda disappointing how it felt just slightly above the base game boss design.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I spent hours trying to beat him. It's the best boss they've ever made.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Deeper combat, strategic fundamentals, improved rpg mechanics and character customization, and more challenging gameplay than DS1
    >Not so one dimensional or braindead as DS3's railroaded progression, stats don't matter rpg mechanics, and hit the iframe button at the right time being the only gameplay combat
    If you value gameplay, depth, freedom and exploration it's one of the best action rpgs ever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It has the same depth as every souls game except for powerstancing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        DS2 is much deeper than 1 or 3.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's deeper than DS1 because of improved combat mechanics and it's a more fleshed out rpg in terms of character growth and gear customization. And it's deeper than 3 because everyone's character by default isn't someone whose just really really good at rolling around a lot with all the stamina and vitality they'd ever need right at sl1. There's room to actually shape your character and play a variety of ways that aren't just hitting the iframe button at the right time being the only gameplay and solution to everything. In DS3 everyone is rolling around the same up to 70% and that's just the nature of the game. It's a lot more simplified and one dimensional.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its extremely lacking in polish but I still prefer it over 3 where it feels like the whole game was made on autopilot. 1 and demons are the best souls games

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    one you notice how every room is just empty, empty hallways, empty castles, it gets kinda hard to not notice it. The levels feel really basic. Noticed it even worse the 2nd time playing it

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You just don't get this level of emergent chaos in other souls games. One little slip up and things can quickly get out of control and you just have to improvise and adapt. You never feel safe. In the other games the enemies either just don't aggro from far enough or they cut off their pursuit outside their small designated zones. Here you really get that fight for your life feeling of tension. This game is always throwing surprises and tricks at you to throw you off your guard. You're there. As an adventurer. Trying to decide how best to overcome a difficult situation. How best to survive the obstacles ahead of you using your cunning and wit combined with limitless build potential and variety of playstyles. It's adrenaline inducing as you fight for your life against insurmountable odds. What a fucking game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wow bro the deep strategic gameplay of running behind a pillar. Truly a first for the souls series.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >emergent
      i don't need to read a single word further to know the caliber of this trash post

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one guy chasing you
      >runs out into the open like a moron to agro more enemies
      >WOAH GUYS THIS IS SO COMPLEX

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretend?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pretending

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The PvP was absolute kino, it had the most build variety in the series.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who still hates DS2 should just watch the video made by that italian autist. It explains the strength of the game design without ignoring the flaws

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just watch the video made by that italian autist
      lol no

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we
    You don't belong here.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you have to ask you'll never know.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The enemies actually attack you in DS2. Which is more than you can say for 1. And it's not the roll spam simulator of 3. So it's automatically the best in the series.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So did people just think 2 was cheap and artificial difficulty because they couldn't just walk up to everything and backstab it? Or easily lure all the enemies away 1 at a time? They actually had to think and use their brain? This is where the "muh enemy placement" shitters comes from? It all makes sense.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        OH NO NO NO NO NO
        AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
        OH NO NO NO NO NO

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically soul

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The ai doing something is better than it doing nothing. Especially if you have to go out of your way to stage a scenario that would happen in all the games. Enemies can't enter specific zones like elevators or certain doorways. I could stage this same thing in all of them.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only people who don't like it are morons and miyazaki cultist fanboys who wouldn't like it anyway if it literally did everything right. It would never be enough or get the miyazaki privilege.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't make that argument, because this exists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzKasf4_x34&list=PLBBJXQJJavX2t9PW80_xq4zdOLHYbVcm6
      and it goes in to exquisite detail about many things (but not everything) DS2 did poorly or flat out wrong. You cannot handwave away DS2's numerous problems with, "Waah, Miyazaki fanboys are why it's not liked!" gay.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to youtube or form your own opinion

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mauler's video are a worthless piece of criticism for the game compared to this

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. Hbobmerguy

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything after base DaS1 is bad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why? I played DS1 and it was boring.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i loved it and i am tired to pretend i didn't

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are DS2 fags done trying to pretend it is the greatest in the series? No, then you get what you fucking deserve, DS2 is trash. Admit to all the numerous problems it has (enough to fill an 8 hour video series) and that it was seen as a massive disappointment for very legitimate reason and other people will be happy to admit it is a good game, but the worst Souls game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But it is the best. 1 is fundamentally broken with backstab cheese. And 3 is a roll spam simulator.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pretend

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love these completely nebulous "problems" that are 98% ignorance or user error, and conveniently ignore the other games don't have problems.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are filled with the same dozen of people every single day

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its actually amazing how it filters both DS1 fags who poise tanked and circle strafed backstab fished through their game and DS3 fags who roll spammed and R1 stunlock everything short of bosses in their game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      One side will tell you the enemy placement is unfair for exactly the reason you can't circle strafe backstab entire groups of enemies one after the other through the whole game. You actually have to think about how you engage situations on a per encounter and level basis. The other, it's too clunky because you actually have to manage stamina, roll recovery, and mashing R1 isn't a guaranteed win tactic. Especially if you're panicking or aiming the wrong direction because the game expects you be deliberate with your actions and know how to handle specific weapons. 2 hits that special balance. It's methodical and demands strategic play in the way 1 tried to be before people broke it and knew how to cheese the ai. And also without being a brainless hack n slash 3 turned out to be. It's fundamentally the best souls game.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the only Souls game I never replayed after finishing the DLCs
    I'm actually glad Dark Souls 2 was my first game of the series and the entry point in From games aside from AC, because I would have dropped it in disgust if I had actually played DS1 first, rather than assuming that the bar was just that low.
    Picked it up at launch too, when journos were fellating it entirely due to Bamco paid reviews and it was one of the very first times I witnessed the death of intellectual honesty and integrity in gaming journalism.
    I'll never forget the disappointment of seeing the Huntsman Corpse "shortcut" right AFTER a bonfire or bosses being literally a bunch of mobs with fog walls

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