Around 40 hours in and I'm finding this game really boring and tedious. Are Origins or Valhalla any better?

Around 40 hours in and I'm finding this game really boring and tedious. Are Origins or Valhalla any better?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ubislop
    no

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Origins is better. Smaller map and the characters are more interesting. The MC arguably has as good as Ezio's character arc. However as good as it is it's still
      so. If anything it's a comfort game, a game you play after you're done with your main game tonight, and you don't want to hit the bed just yet .

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Origins is good for just fooling around in Ancient Egypt as a Medjay. The main story with Aya is shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Origins isn't better. The gameplay is more simplistic and the open world stuff is just outright worse. The only good thing is that I think the map is a lot better, there's a lot more variety and distinction between each region. Bayek is alright as well but the plot is stupid and his wife is a massive annoying b***h.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played Origins and I got bored of the endless side content about 10 hours in, Ubislop games are just time wasters.

      I normally try to 100% games, but this one was too much for me. There's only so many identical areas with identical enemies I can take.

      Odyssey is bloated beyond belief. Copy-pasted trash is everywhere.

      Anyway, Origins is better, but Valhalla is much, much worse.

      >achievementlets seethe at best game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hundred-percented Odyssey as well and I wasted 217 hours of my life to do so.

        That said, the game is incredibly bloated and I will never not change my mind.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's a comfy yearly replay around end of summer/start of fall for me. gives such comfy vibes with all the seasons in the game as well

          [...]
          >Steam achievements.

          >playing anywhere else but on steam
          ngmi

          • 3 weeks ago
            Moose

            It's more that you're showing off the achievements on Steam when those are 100% untrustworthy due to SAM, trainers, and Cheat Engine. They're the most worthless way to show you did something in a game. Your time would be smarter to post if you want to lend credence to your experiences on PC specifically because only the most depraved people would leave games on idle for hundreds of hours. Or go to Ubisoft Connect and grab your time from there. Granted, Uplay itself counts 100% as "Unlocked all sync points" rather than 100%ing the game so that's not exactly the best metric to go on either, but it does give you numbers.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              where did you find these ubisoft stats? i can't find it anywhere in the shitty new launcher or on their website

              • 3 weeks ago
                Moose

                https://ubisoftconnect.com/
                Click on your profile picture at the top-right once you've signed in. As long as the game is one of your last fifteen recently played games you can find it just by clicking the game itself and get a truncated list of your stats.
                If you want to go more in depth go to "Games", find the game, and then go to "Stats & Leaderboards".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thanks, found it.

                It's more that you're showing off the achievements on Steam when those are 100% untrustworthy due to SAM, trainers, and Cheat Engine. They're the most worthless way to show you did something in a game. Your time would be smarter to post if you want to lend credence to your experiences on PC specifically because only the most depraved people would leave games on idle for hundreds of hours. Or go to Ubisoft Connect and grab your time from there. Granted, Uplay itself counts 100% as "Unlocked all sync points" rather than 100%ing the game so that's not exactly the best metric to go on either, but it does give you numbers.

                odyssey is one of my favorite games and like i said a yearly replay cause i love the seasons different regions have and the comfy vibes it gives.
                cheats are basically useless to use because after level 50 even if it's your first play through, you can get insanely OP. everything after that is easy mode even on nightmare difficulty and stuff just hoards

              • 3 weeks ago
                Moose

                Man, that distance. Did you get all the engravings maxed? Because I 100% absolutely everything including DLC and patched in content and you can see I'm only half that. Or do you just run around exploring everywhere for fun?

                For me it's one of the worst AC games by far but as a fantasy RPG it was okay once I got the ball rolling.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my first two playthroughs i did everything 100%. i completed every region, every quest, even explored the sea to 100%. even the shitty Xenia treasure hunt, then moved to do all the DLC's and do everything 100% there. come to main game, do all the engravings, collect and make fun builds etc.
                i'm a completionist so having it to be completed was a must lol
                i did the first 2 playthroughs in less than 6 months too.
                after that i just replay it in september ever year, do main story line, do the regions, quests and stuff i enjoy the most, do all the dlc's, try different play styles.
                at one point i was only trying to get the mastery points so i rushed a couple times to DLC's to get as much as possible but that quickly turned boring

                >For me it's one of the worst AC games
                i get that. for me it was my first AC game and i love ancient greece so that's maybe why i love it. i tried valhalla and while it was okay, it was a huge disappointment overall after odyssey

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the Atlantis DLC was one of the biggest slogs I've ever played

      • 3 weeks ago
        Moose

        I hundred-percented Odyssey as well and I wasted 217 hours of my life to do so.

        That said, the game is incredibly bloated and I will never not change my mind.

        >Steam achievements.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All modern open world games that came out after 2015 are absolute trash slog fests, avoid.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My wife

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i actually liked this game because it was ass creed in name only.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I played Origins and I got bored of the endless side content about 10 hours in, Ubislop games are just time wasters.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    personally, i have a blast

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I normally try to 100% games, but this one was too much for me. There's only so many identical areas with identical enemies I can take.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Odyssey is bloated beyond belief. Copy-pasted trash is everywhere.

    Anyway, Origins is better, but Valhalla is much, much worse.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the setting but this game was so fricking bloated. Just rush the main story.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes origins is a lot better because it has a smaller map, a better setting, better combat (shields), less bullshit skills and better gear

    Dont play valhalla it has 80h+ of tedious sidequests you have to do to advance the main story

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The other way homie

      Holy shit! This guy is brain dead

      >better combat
      Entire combat of Origins is spamming overpower attacks over and over and over again, you literally have no other option besides that too, you either use melee or use bow, you can't even heal yourself in combat unless you use specific gear, it's the only game in the series with hard level cap preventing you to do shit because you have no option to circumvent level gaps(unlike Odyssey/Valhalla's buffs or crits or elementals etc.). Combat never improves past first hour. What you do in the first hour is the exact same as 100th hour. I don't even like Odyssey but Odyssey did it much better. You start as Bayek and end the game as Kratos. Valhalla's combat mogs the other two btw, only real problem is it's too easy because Eivor can become extremely OP. Origins is total snoozefest from start to finish, it's combat is basically dark souls but shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Odyssey still has the better combat out of the three. In Valhalla you can just brainlessly spam the axe throw over and over to clean a raid.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Odyssey still has the better combat out of the three
          Frick no

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Odyssey still has the better combat out of the three
          Wrong.
          >No dodge cancels
          >No animation cancels
          >No real dual wielding
          >No iframes for specific actions
          >No superarmor for specific attacks
          >Every enemy takes 395335 sword slashes to die, which looks ridicilous and feels tedious
          >You can't take out enemies 5 levels higher than you either, you just have a chance to do so, unlike Valhalla's RPG mechanics which works as intended(giving you a boost against high level enemies, just like Witcher 3, the game RPG Creed desperately tries to ape, does)
          It's slightly better than Origins but nowhere near close to Valhalla. Also it's the only game in the series that prevents you from being jack-of-all trades, you need to max one damage type otherwise they will all deal shit damage, only exception to this is 100% crit build, which gives crit to your every attack. Even in Unity with a stealth build you can still engage in combat, or vice versa with a combat build. But you can't in Odyssey unless you spec into one specific build. Valhalla is so much better it's not even a comparison.
          >Axe throw
          People only use that because they found it early in the game. Many of the other combat abilities overshadows it pretty quickly. Dive of Valkyries is just axe throw but better for example. Also abilities in Valhalla aren't meant to be spammed unlike Odyssey, Eivor's base skills are more than enough to get past most of the enemy encounters. Skills comes into play in boss battles and when you are fighting against high level enemies. It's the only RPG game that allows you to take power level 500 enemies while you are 150.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Skills comes into play in boss battles
            >use the poison upgrade, dodge to activate slow mode, attack and repeat
            If happen to play on a good day you can buy an overpowered axe from the kid in your village for peanuts that can cut through 90% of the base game with no problems. Combine that with the strat from above and you’re never gonna have to think about combat for a second ever again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Moose

            Don't forget that to use a 100% crit build you die in two hits due to the Falx of Olympos curse only giving you 1/4th of your health in exchange for doubling your damage. The only reason you even survive is because the game has an under-the-hood mechanic that prevents you from getting one-shot. Getting hit at all instantly drops your DPS by over half and you need to Fury of the Bloodline like two or three times to get your health back to full. You also need to luck into a lot of specific Epic gear that has +50% crit chance at full health, +30% crit chance (Or whatever it was) which is only on Assassin Damage gear if I remember right, and Legend armor is completely unviable for the build. Only Epic armor works due to the extra chance for a passive roll.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dont play mirage guys
    the gear with stats bullshit is still in
    the story is just
    >main female black master
    >female best friend
    >female leaders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I had a blast

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't care having a blast

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I gave up on it after 30 minutes, bro. The numbers over everyone's head, the enemies being immune to hidden blade because of their level and all the tiered gear just made me go "I'm done with this" after I got killed by some high level enemy that I stabbed several times. There was no way I was going to spend hours grinding the game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I gave up after The Final Push quest where you're trying to kill damage sponge enemies in a certain time limit. I don't understand how anyone can think that this game has great combat. The "powers" you get suck too.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >40 hours in
    It took you that long to realise this, kek. Well enjoy the next 100 hours of the same shit because it doesn't get any better. Kill 3 this, destroy 3 that over and over. I am not proud of pic related.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get game that's highly recommended
      >find out it sucks
      >lie to myself that I just have shit taste and need to keep playing it until it gets good
      Masochism

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried playing this and I saw how low quality the horse riding was in comparison to Red Dead Redemption and I just dropped it.

    Should I give it another go?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Moose

      You don't really use the horses that much because you tend to be on foot almost always due to having to constantly parkour and the horse gets caught up on the tiniest o fledges. AC1, the Ezio games, and Origins are the only time I can genuinely remember using a horse at all for more than a few seconds.

      my first two playthroughs i did everything 100%. i completed every region, every quest, even explored the sea to 100%. even the shitty Xenia treasure hunt, then moved to do all the DLC's and do everything 100% there. come to main game, do all the engravings, collect and make fun builds etc.
      i'm a completionist so having it to be completed was a must lol
      i did the first 2 playthroughs in less than 6 months too.
      after that i just replay it in september ever year, do main story line, do the regions, quests and stuff i enjoy the most, do all the dlc's, try different play styles.
      at one point i was only trying to get the mastery points so i rushed a couple times to DLC's to get as much as possible but that quickly turned boring

      >For me it's one of the worst AC games
      i get that. for me it was my first AC game and i love ancient greece so that's maybe why i love it. i tried valhalla and while it was okay, it was a huge disappointment overall after odyssey

      >do all the engravings
      By this I meant upgrading them all. So getting all the kills, all the requirements, etc. Even when I 100% absolutely everything else I still had like 30 something Spartan and Athenian captain kills along with a couple other things if I wanted to max out all the engravings and I threw my hands up in the air because it genuinely would have been like 10-15 hours more of just grinding when I was burnt out at that point.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's literally no other game with horse riding on par with RDR2
      Are you just not gonna play any games with horse riding, or do you just like to complain?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't really use the horses that much because you tend to be on foot almost always due to having to constantly parkour and the horse gets caught up on the tiniest o fledges. AC1, the Ezio games, and Origins are the only time I can genuinely remember using a horse at all for more than a few seconds.

      [...]
      >do all the engravings
      By this I meant upgrading them all. So getting all the kills, all the requirements, etc. Even when I 100% absolutely everything else I still had like 30 something Spartan and Athenian captain kills along with a couple other things if I wanted to max out all the engravings and I threw my hands up in the air because it genuinely would have been like 10-15 hours more of just grinding when I was burnt out at that point.

      most horses suck to ride, but once you get the black pegasus that is actually free. not sure if it's in the helix store to grab for free or it appears in sargon/normal shop vendor at random, but it has wings that basically give you immunity to fall damage no matter the height so you can jump off anything with the horse and don't get caught on any obstacles.
      it's pretty fun i bought the white pegasus for real monies cause it looks better, but for free the black pegasus is absolutely a must it makes riding horse and exploring SO much easier
      >by this I meant upgrading them all.
      i think i did it the very first playthrough, not sure if ALL of them but definitely most because i remember having a guide opened and just mindlessly upgrading the engravings and collecting stuff for them

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >really boring and tedious
    this was noticeable like 2 hours in

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are Origins or Valhalla any better?
    Valhalla is slightly better. Origins is just worse in every way but setting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit! This guy is brain dead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The other way homie

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree the game gets boring and tedious but I still 100% it anyway. I don't know why. The game was a good enough time waster for me.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only got valhalla because you have a crow bro.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origins, a bit, Valhalla, hell fricking no

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origins sure because it’s half the length of Odyssey but don’t touch Valhalla

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origins is the better game, Valhalla is the better AC story

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valhalla is the better AC story
      lmfao, valhalla has no story

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      20 hours in
      >I need to find my brother but first I’ll do 7 quests unrelated to the main story where I help a king burn himself alive for no reason
      40 hours in
      >find your brother? uhh no Eivor, you need to help the main Templar bad guy in his town because he asked nicely and then go to the opposite side of the map to jerk off a king with dementia
      60 hours in
      >thank you for rescuing me Eivor, but I really fricking hate you for taking care of my clan while I was kidnapped. Also frick you for destroying my ‘going into games’ machine and brining me back to reality, did I mention how much I hate you?
      The story fricking sucks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valhalla is the better game, Valhalla is the better AC story
      Fixed

      >Valhalla is the better AC story
      lmfao, valhalla has no story

      >AC Origins
      >It's actually not about the origins of brotherhood until the last 30 seconds of base game
      >It's actually not about the origins of the creed until the last 30 seconds of first DLC
      Valhalla's all about Valhalla, many of the choices you do are directly tied to that in fact. Such as Dag or Ivarr asking you to give their axes to them while they are dying otherwise they can't enter Valhalla.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Valhalla is about Valhalla
        >80 hours later you find out Valhalla isn’t real and the true goal was the friends we made along the way
        At least Origins tried to tell the story of how Assassins were poorly thought out because they were built on grief, which explains their hypocritical values later in the timeline.
        Valhalla is just some random c**t raiding England while a generic AC plot is happening in way off in the background.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >80 hours later you find out Valhalla isn’t real and the true goal was the friends we made along the way
          Of course it's not real, AC is very atheistic in it's core ever since the first game. Valhalla being real would be the antithesis of the series. I don't think they told the friends story in a good way though. You don't care about any of the characters besides Basim, Eivor and Sigurd. Anyone else with a slight hint of character dies anyways, RPG games are pretty soulless in character department, you don't care about anyone else but maybe the protagonist if even that. I think Wrath of Druids DLC told it better than many of the other arcs. Even when entire reason why you would care about Barid is because he is Eivor's cousin. But at least you see Eivor spend some time with him and his son before Eivor joins his cause.

          when is this series going back to its roots?
          no fricking damage numbers
          one hit insta kill assassinations
          no gear with fricking numbers on it

          Mirage. Maybe Hexe if leaks are anything reliable.
          >mirage is just valhalla but in even worse
          I don't remember seeing damage numbers in Mirage, if you are talking about weapon upgrading or outfit perks they were in the series since AC2.

          The best you'll get is Mirage and that's it.
          Red and Hexe are confirmed to keep the rpg combat and dialogue systems from the past 3 games but they did state that they'll try to "refine the stealth."
          It's never going back.

          Hexe isn't going to be an RPG according to leaks. It might not even be a coherent open world but several different hubs similar to AC1/2s cities.

          I loved it, it's very strange to me a game like this can exist and be seen as mediocre. The game World is enormous and highly detailed with many, many city states represented, Athens, Sparta, Olympia to name but a few and the ocean, the islands, the exploration alone.
          I don't really play this for the story, just looking around and exploring.
          It's a shame it's tied to the Assassin's creed brand, it should have been it's own I.P.

          >it should have been it's own I.P.
          They made it it's own IP with Immortals Fenyx Rising and it was a massive flop.

          The fact you dont even have a hidden blade is stupid

          The fact that magical spear of Leonidas can't one-shot enemies but a random wrist blade can is even more stupid. I don't think lack of hidden blade is the problem btw, no idea why people think AssCreed is about hoods and hidden blades. Half the Monteriggioni statues had no hidden blades or hoods. None of the Assassins you meet in AC2 had hidden blades or hoods.

          Thoughts on that cartoon odyssey+botw ripoff? considering playing it.

          I've played it for like few hours but bored out of it. I don't see how anyone can enjoy it unless they are greek or they already enjoy BotW. Which I am not and I don't respectively. It's dialogues are even cringier than Odyssey.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mirage
            mirage is not back to the roots at all
            its just valhalla but on a smaller map

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no idea why people think AssCreed is about hoods and hidden blades
            You can not be serious anon

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You can not be serious anon
              Series is named as Assassin's Creed, not Assassin's Blade or Hood. As long as it has Templar vs Assassin conflict and clash of their philosophies it's an AC game.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are all equally tedious if not worse.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By the time you get to Sparta the story completely gives up. The whole conflict there is rushed. It's a shame because some bits are good.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when is this series going back to its roots?
    no fricking damage numbers
    one hit insta kill assassinations
    no gear with fricking numbers on it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Moose

      It's not. The RPG trilogy sold the most out of any game in the series multiple times in a row. This is the formula now, but thankfully they're realizing that they need to go in a more Origins/Valhalla direction than an Odyssey direction when it comes to the RPG mechanics and Red itself is already "rumored" to be more like Valhalla with the gameplay but with a higher stealth focus than it. Jade looks like it's gonna be an Odyssey-tier number cruncher but it's also a mobile F2P game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they wont though
        mirage is just valhalla but in even worse
        odyssey was a nerfed origin version

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The best you'll get is Mirage and that's it.
      Red and Hexe are confirmed to keep the rpg combat and dialogue systems from the past 3 games but they did state that they'll try to "refine the stealth."
      It's never going back.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        frick
        and ubishits outlaws game will probably have the same type of bullshit
        guh

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved it, it's very strange to me a game like this can exist and be seen as mediocre. The game World is enormous and highly detailed with many, many city states represented, Athens, Sparta, Olympia to name but a few and the ocean, the islands, the exploration alone.
    I don't really play this for the story, just looking around and exploring.
    It's a shame it's tied to the Assassin's creed brand, it should have been it's own I.P.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      should've stuck with the original title

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact you dont even have a hidden blade is stupid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Moose

      >The game World is enormous and highly detailed with many, many city states represented
      Yeah, and that's why people find it mediocre.
      The map itself is way too big and has nothing of interest to see for vast swathes of land. They even had to implement a mechanic where you get a forced random encounter every I think 3 minutes (I can't remember the GDC talk) of you not fighting something just so that it didn't feel boring to run around the vast emptiness.
      It reuses so many of the temples and buildings in every single city rather than changing them up. Temples for example barely change outside of maybe having a second floor or being rectangles instead of square which are both rare to see. Even the crossover temple is like any other city's temple.
      The amount of people in any city is half of what you saw in Origins which made them all feel dead and devoid of life, and Odyssey in general is lacking basic features that fleshed out the people and the world like floating leaves on water or people bringing boats to you to save you from being stuck in the water on top of having more varied actions in the towns. Sparta at least looks unique, same for Lesbos, but the port towns and Athens are absolute garbage by AC standards.
      The tombs are also some of the worst, most repetitive content in AC games yet with them all looking virtually identical except maybe the floor is caved in and flooded, or maybe it has a second floor you have to go to to drop back down from. That's it. There's like 40 of these things and they're all borderline the same.

      The only good thing Odyssey did was the forts, they are so much better and more varied than Origins, but in exchange for the the generic barracks and random camps are all the exact same structure on repeat but you have to do like a hundred of them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's disappointing to me coming off of origins. I really liked ancient greece and greek mythology when I was younger so I was hyped for this game but the map is just so big with so much same-y hills and forests. I mean I get that that's greece but when you compare it to egypt which is like 90% dessert and how fricking good of a job they did there it just annoys me that greece couldn't have been better. I still found the combat to be more enjoyable though. Ton of awesome armor sets too

        • 3 weeks ago
          Moose

          I just stuck with the default Misthios outfit most of the time because the others just slapped giant armor onto me or looked more impractical than anything else. I only swapped it out for the Isu Misthios outfit because it was the only thing that looked just as reasonable as before.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on that cartoon odyssey+botw ripoff? considering playing it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never played it
      I heard that it's Odyssey for kids

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I played this, and wished I lived in antiquity Greece 😐

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to have actual fun in these type of ubisoft games, you need to stop playing it like a checklist game. Unironically you'll have way more fun if you ignore like 80% of optional content outside of camps and sidequests.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origins is only slightly better. Atleast Odyssey's world was fun to explore, Origins somehow made ancient Egypt boring af

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origns is 10-fold better. I played it to completion and at the time it was refreshing and fun. I couldn't get past 10 hours in Odyssey because it was the same thing with even worse accents.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Origins
    About the same.
    >Valhalla
    Much worse. So much that I couldn't even finish it despite playing both Origins and Odyssey for over 100 hours.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origins is better if you are an egyptian archeology enjoyer. its the only ass creed game I played for this reason.

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