A lot of characters are better than Lillie, but the thing is that they have very similar roles/stories, and Arven's is so much better executed. >both have severe parental issues >both more or less introduce you to the box legendary and help with its "growth" >both need your help to overcome their issues
However, what makes Lillie annoying and Arven enjoyable is that Lillie is fricking useless by herself, while Arven is largely independent. Lillie feels like she's the true protagonist, and we are just there to escort her to the next cutscene. She just randomly shows up and the game forces you to play babysitter. I found that incredibly annoying.
Arven on the other hand feels largely independent. Yes, he needs help with the Titans, but we can decide when we do that rather than being randomly ambushed when the game thinks it's time for story stuff. He contributes to the fights, even if it's not much, but he doesn't feel like a helpless baby.
There's some other things about Arven that make him more interesting than Lillie, like the whole Mabosstiff thing and the fact that he's kind of an butthole at the beginning, clearly hiding something.
So yes, Arven us just a much better Lillie and only coomers disagree.
Arven is one of the best friend/rival characters they've conceived. I liked his story arc. I can't say the same for Lillie at all. She felt way more like a nuisance and a nag.
I would not defend Lillie if she was a male. I would hate the character just as much as Hau. I played moon version in traditional Chinese one time and Hau was still annoying. I do like Gladion.
I really like Arven but I found it hard to be fully invested in the Mabosstiff story since my dog died around the time SV came out, it's not a fault of the game, but it just happened at a bad time
he was create by imagination magic, much like the paradox mons
The best character since N.
honestly
>implying N is a good character
Post a good character then
>b-but there is no-
Concession accepted.
>Post a good character then
Marnie.
Wanting to frick a character doesn't make them good.
>he didnt play the game
yawn
Concession accepted.
>no argument
i won
Go back to your containment thread.
She has literally no personality...
>he also didn’t played the game
Yawn
Tell me about her personality and character development, anon. Oh wait you can't cause there isn't any
Confession denied.
klara mogs both
bianca
To me, Arven is a failed version of N.
>To me, Arven is a failed version of N.
>Character who can AT LEAST wipe his own ass is worse than literal puppet
I don't give a shit about Arven. I'm not gay. I can jerk off to Lillie.
This is exactly why Lillie is worse, SM brought out all the coomers
Just give it some time. That Avery hating kitchen knife schizo will hate Arven too I bet.
>He's better than Lillie.
Not a big accomplishment
A lot of characters are better than Lillie, but the thing is that they have very similar roles/stories, and Arven's is so much better executed.
>both have severe parental issues
>both more or less introduce you to the box legendary and help with its "growth"
>both need your help to overcome their issues
However, what makes Lillie annoying and Arven enjoyable is that Lillie is fricking useless by herself, while Arven is largely independent. Lillie feels like she's the true protagonist, and we are just there to escort her to the next cutscene. She just randomly shows up and the game forces you to play babysitter. I found that incredibly annoying.
Arven on the other hand feels largely independent. Yes, he needs help with the Titans, but we can decide when we do that rather than being randomly ambushed when the game thinks it's time for story stuff. He contributes to the fights, even if it's not much, but he doesn't feel like a helpless baby.
There's some other things about Arven that make him more interesting than Lillie, like the whole Mabosstiff thing and the fact that he's kind of an butthole at the beginning, clearly hiding something.
So yes, Arven us just a much better Lillie and only coomers disagree.
Yes because he can battle competently enough and he lends a hand rather than being some sheltered princess.
Arven is one of the best friend/rival characters they've conceived. I liked his story arc. I can't say the same for Lillie at all. She felt way more like a nuisance and a nag.
I would not defend Lillie if she was a male. I would hate the character just as much as Hau. I played moon version in traditional Chinese one time and Hau was still annoying. I do like Gladion.
Incorrect, because Arven is a male.
I liked Lillie but character and story wise Arven did more for me.
These are seven pokemon trainers that I've enjoyed more than Arven. Arven is not bad, but I had more fun with these guys.
Nah, he's an overdramatic dickhead with an ugly design.
AAAAAHH HELP ME KORAIDON
I really like Arven but I found it hard to be fully invested in the Mabosstiff story since my dog died around the time SV came out, it's not a fault of the game, but it just happened at a bad time
I'm sorry anon. Sometimes stuff like this just hits us at the wrong moment.
>He's better than Lillie.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
arven is a bro, he's a rare story character with his own goals
penny has a full story but it's not nearly as adventurous as arven's
>he's better than Lillie
If you are gay and enjoy sticking your peepee into another gay's pooper and get AIDS.