I guarantee you it's gonna flop there too, even FF7R only did 500k in over a year on Steam, fucking Forspoken had a higher launch month on Steam than FF7R did.
FF7R came to PC after 2 years of exclusivity(Ebin store doesn't count). XVI seems to ignore Ebin and go straight into Steam now that Timmy is bankrupt lol.
Steam players don't care if PC version comes to another PC platform first, if its on Steam then Steam has an audience, too bad FF7R flopped
XV sold more than double on PC than FF7R did and FF7R came to PC only like 3 months later than what it took XV
>Steam players don't care if PC version comes to another PC platform first
Given both Stranger of Paradise and 7R flopped on PC because of that I don't think so.
why do people always cope with this. games don't sell on pc. that's just a fact. >noooooo my steamcharts!
yet every game we get is a console port. curious. almost like consoles are every devs primary audience
No they didn't
No it doesnt
No it isnt
Cut content being sold back
We already knew a shitty PC port was happening after launch since fucking 2020, nobody cares
XVI cultists have been notoriously obnoxiously shilling XVI for 3 years and being annoying gays trying to act like CBU3 would "save" single player FF, only for FFXVI to be the lowest selling AAA FF in history, and now even FFXIV is dying, so it just outed CBU3 as incompetent and the shills as retards.
Those shills have been on damage control over FFXVI for months now and people are rightfully shitting on them after having to put up with years of their obnoxious shilling and retardation.
>Why does this game causes so much seethe?
It shouldn't be that difficult to understand, considering Final Fantasy has traditionally been turnbased. And yet FF16 is the opposite while being heralded by anti-turnbased turn-phobics as the game that would kill the genre they insist is archaic and better off dead.
trannies, brown people, some people who are obssesed with the game to see it fail etc, take your pick.
The game its white as fuck, only 2 fags, that's it. A lot of /v fags shit on it, but in the same time they shill and defend baldur gay 3 who has gays, trannies, zoophilia, reddit humor and writing, etc.
One guy making hundreds of daily threads seething about it since it was first announced, and still doing it after its release? Most likely the same dude obsessed with the mmorpg? It's beyond shitposting. Legit mental illness.
I was very interested in 16 until it became apparent they weren't actually making a final fantasy, I'd imagine that's a big contributor to 16's dead market
>Create beloved franchise with outworldly atmosphere and interesting fantasy like companions
Let's make everyone boring human in a medieval western setting >Create the best combat system to date in ffvii remake, perfectly blending action with turn based
Let's ignore it and make the game Ifrit May Cry lmao >Be known for party based game
We want that modern audience, let's go with solo protagonist
Fuck them. Square has an identity crisis and lack of artistic vision. They got blown the fuck out by baldurs gate 3 doing everything they said was outdated. Fuck them.
Its legit a mediocre game that is forgotten easily. It doesn't stand out, the story is GoT slop that somehow turns into an attempt of a FF story, the combat is servicable but has no variation, the characters are entirely forgettable (or get killed because of muh dark n gritty). Shit it doesn't even have good porn. Should have been a FF side game, absolute disgrace as a main line game.
kek it's such a delight to see you so utterly Barry-Broken. the mental image of you frantically checking the thread stats after every post is hysterical
FF7EC flop tanked CyberAgent's stock, Square Enix took a hit, too. Your franchise is dead. Square will go bankrupt a few years down the line, lol. Yoshida = hack fraud, Nomura = hack fraud. They literally have nothing to save their asses.
kek it's such a delight to see you so utterly Barry-Broken. the mental image of you frantically checking the thread stats after every post is hysterical
>Only 3 spots above Atlas fallen in the US >Not even in the top 20 in the EU while Atlas fallen is >Atlas fallen categorically bombed >12 lower than Remnant 2 US which sold only 1m and did over 800k on Steam
I'm kind of surprised there are a small handful of shills still defending this trash (even if they have to make hate-threads as bait just to get anyone to even talk about it). XVI and it's maker made a mockery of everything a JRPG is and what their own copany had built over 30+ years.
No amount of DLC or ports will save a product that has betrayed its genre, its legacy and its playerbase. The only thing interesting about this game is to see if it's just ruined manline Final Fantasy or if it will bring all of Square Enix down with it.
>No amount of DLC or ports will save a product that has betrayed its genre, its legacy and its playerbase.
I find it extremely ironic that FF16 seems to be treading the same path as FF15 did yet Yoshida defense force praises it instead of foaming at the mouth like they do with FF15. FF16 is unifnished crap where the producer lied about "no DLCs planned".
He also lied about FF16 being a finished story when the only place you can even learn that Joshua was in a coma for 5 years and then spent another 3 years healing is in the fucking Japanese only ultimania book that released 3 months AFTER the game released, literally nowhere in the game is that ever mentioned
How is Joshua's coma relevant to the story ? Anyone with a brain knows he didn't suddenly set on a journey to learn about Ultima when he was fucking 10
Because he is the MAIN CHARACTERS BROTHER WHO KNEW HE WAS A FUCKING SLAVE AND DID NOTHING? And "killing" Joshua is literally the entire source of Clive's guilt for the first fucking half of the game? Except he wasn't actually fucking dead and he was somehow saved offscreen, which btw, the fucking Ultimania confirms that the secret order DID NOT SAVE HIM FROM DEATH, he just miraculously survived and they just found him, he was in a coma for 5 years, then they healed him for the next 3, then for another 5 years he did fucking nothing to even try and save Clive from his slavery even though he could fucking FLY, and he had no reason to even hide his presence
It was just dogshittily written
Oh and the >b-but Ultima could see where Clive is then
Shit doesn't work because Joshua and Clive eventually DO reunite and Ultima doesn't fucking do shit to come between them
Know what the most retarded ultimaniac lore drop? Mad ultimacius dropped his chud body to flight to another fucking continent instead of traveling space
>WHO KNEW HE WAS A FUCKING SLAVE AND DID NOTHING?
he was away from Clive because the undying wanted him fucking dead for trying to kill him, retard.
Can't even bother reading the rest of your schizo babble since you either haven't played the game, or can't pay attention for 5 seconds
1 week ago
Anonymous
> We got the fire pitbull guy unsconcious and defenseless
> Let him alive because [PLOT]
1 week ago
Anonymous
did you miss the first two paragraphs of my picture ?
Jesus christ.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Come on the whole joshua surviving is bullshit its more credible he was absorbed by ifrit
1 week ago
Anonymous
The first two paragraphs where they just stop trying to kill clive because Joshua said "hey don't... he's muh bro.... surely there's a reason!" and they were like "ok"
But suddenly have no problem with Clive when Joshua does finally reunite with him so there was literally nothing stopping Joshua from going to save Clive
1 week ago
Anonymous
>so there was literally nothing stopping Joshua from going to save Clive
yeah nothing except Clive going apeshit like at phoenix gate.
In case you haven't noticed Joshua stays away from Clive until he's forced to meet him in the dominion
1 week ago
Anonymous
>yeah nothing except Clive going apeshit like at phoenix gate.
Ah yes just like that time he tries to kill joshua a second ti- oh wait that never happens you fucking retard >he stays away
Because of bad writing, he even walks by his fucking unconscious body and stops Ultima from trying to get closer then succs in a part of ultima for no fucking reason, yet he can't reintroduce himself to clive for another 5 years, and clive just doesn't bother to mention he already knew about the secret order that nobody knew existed
Oh and btw, again, the fucking order DID NOT SAVE JOSHUA FROM DEATH, he survived "somehow" already before they even found him, they just found him in a coma and then healed him up afterwards
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Ah yes just like that time he tries to kill joshua a second ti- oh wait that never happens you fucking retard
and joshua 100% knew Clive wouldn't go crazy this whole time, right ? You're embarrassing >muh bad writing
Joshua revealed himself *because* Clive was unconscious and had to do something to keep ultima away, albeit with incomplete knowledge. He did what he thought was best, ie getting Ultima away from Clive while expanding his knowledge and come up with a plan
1 week ago
Anonymous
He didn't so he wouldn't, there is literally no reason they couldn't have linked up earlier other than bad writing and forced drama
There was literally no reason to try and hide himself when he reveals himself anyway, he achieved nothing, it was bad writing
1 week ago
Anonymous
I just told you why they didn't link up, but you chose to ignore it because it's more convenient to be a disingenuous retard
yeah joshua had no reason to hide himself except you know, hiding his indentity from ultima's servants
1 week ago
Anonymous
No you regurgitated the pathetic excuse of bad writing for why they somehow can't meet even though there was literally no reason why they couldn't, and Joshua himself fucking says to clive after they do meet is that they learned practically NOTHING about Ultima so there was again NO FUCKING REASON stopping it, and Joshua could have easily free'd Clive from slavery and explained shit to him
There was no reason to even hide from Ultima because Ultima didn't fucking do shit
1 week ago
Anonymous
stop being disingenuous, retard
1 week ago
Anonymous
Stop being a stupid fucking retard excusing bad writing, there was fucking no reason for Clive to not got seek out Joshua either once he learned he was alive yet he spends 5 years not doing shit but growing the weakest excuse for a beard for anyone in FF.
1 week ago
Anonymous
stop repeating yourself, retard
1 week ago
Anonymous
maybe because Clive has more braincells than you do, maybe because he trusts his brother has good reasons to stay away, maybe because Joshua made it very clear Clive wouldn't find him, through his actions. >bbbbbad writing
bad comprehension. If everything needs to be spelled out for you to understand shit, it's a you problem
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Clive >braincells
pick one, he has no fucking clue what he's doing, he literally thinks Joshua is dead
Somehow eikons can sense any other eikons except for some reason where it doesn't work because [PLOT] I mean bad writing
It is contrived bullshit that makes no sense and is the worst writing in FF history, Joshua had every means to go and save Clive, the fucking undying listen to everything Joshua says to do, they are in service of him, nothing stopped him from saving him from slavery other than bad writing.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Somehow eikons can sense any other eikons except for some reason where it doesn't work because [PLOT] I mean bad writing >Somehow
Clive can sense Barnabas because he wants him to
Clive can sense Jill because they've spent so much time together their aether are attuned to each other.
I won't reply anymore, this is pointless
1 week ago
Anonymous
>because he wants him to >because of a completely different reason
because bad writing
1 week ago
Anonymous
you're just repeating shit you already said, and I already told you why you're wrong. You can stop now
1 week ago
Anonymous
Nope, you aren't making any valid arguments, stop defending bad writing, there was no legitimate reason for Joshua not to save Clive from slavery.
stop repeating yourself, retard
Still defending bad writing, don't get me started on the dumb bitch that Anabella is who somehow has no fucking actual motive other than wanting to have power yet when her own child that was Phoenix "died" she didn't even care.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>he was away from Clive because the undying wanted him fucking dead for trying to kill him, retard.
Yet at a fucking wave of his hand the undying didn't kill him because Joshua said not to, so Joshua could have gone and free'd him all the same you stupid fucking retard
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Joshua could have gone and free'd him all the same you stupid fucking retard
"oh yeah, let's go and free my brother who was controlled by ultima and nearly killed me, what would go wrong lol"
1 week ago
Anonymous
>"oh yeah, let's go and free my brother who was controlled by ultima and nearly killed me, what would go wrong lol"
You mean like how when they finally did reunite and nothing happened regarding ultima?
You know what's even more fucking retarded? Ultima living as olivier for 11 years since he was a fucking baby, meaning he was getting his diapers changed and shit, what a fucking retard
1 week ago
Anonymous
and yet again you prove you haven't played the game. Olivier was akashic, meaning he turned akashic when he was 11, he would've stopped growing up whenever it happened. Just like Barnabas is 70 years old but stopped getting old when he was in his 40s
1 week ago
Anonymous
And you didn't read the Ultimania which reveals that Ultima already took over Olivier since he was a baby meaning that was Ultima the entire 11 years, Olivier never existed as a person unto himself, it was literally Ultima pretending to be this retard kid Olivier, not just when he turned 11 suddenly becoming Ultima
>No explanation for what happened to Joshua in the 13 years in game >No explanation for Leviathan in game >No explanation for Cid's backstory in game >No explanation for Barnabas's backstory in game >No explanation for Benedikta's backstory in game >No explanation for Hugo's backstory in game >No explanation for Anabella's backstory in game >Shit just constantly happens for no reason with no buildup, occurs offscreen with no explanation why, gets resolved by deus ex machina or completely glossed over, plotholes galore, story gaps galore, no ending >It's DLC is literally cut content to fill in gaps, unlike XV DLC which was them PUTTING IN extra scenarios into the base game in the last few months of dev specifically to frame the DLC but none of it being essential to know, unlike FF16 shit like LEVIATHAN ONE OF THE FUCKING EIKON'S ULTIMA NEEDS TO FULFILL HIS FUCKING PLAN OF CLIVE SUCKING UP ALL THE EIKONS
Holy fuck piss off
Nothing changes in the story by learning how Gladio got his scar, how Ignis went blind or what happened to Prompto after he got pushed off, those are literal definition of side stories that aren't required to know to understand Noctis's journey into becoming true king which is all fully told in the base game and fully wrapped up at the end, meanwhile all that stuff no explained in FF16 is crucial MAIN STORY shit that goes completely unexplained, and it has no fucking ending because the hack Maehiro took the pussy way out with an "ambigous ending" just to try and get people to talk about FF16 beyond launch, even though nobody actually cares and it just pissed everyone off over how dogshit the ending is, more people literally praise XV because of its great ending over how trash FFXVI ended.
>>No explanation for Leviathan in game
irrelevant to the story, it's a lost eikon and isn't even acknowledged as an element in the game's folklore >>No explanation for Cid's backstory in game
he awakened as ramuh and became Waloed's lord commander until Otto's son was taken away and had enough >>No explanation for Barnabas's backstory in game
he's a descendant of the children of dzemekys and circle of ultimalius zealot, fled valisthea with his mother and returned to conquer ash to help ultima with his goals >>No explanation for Benedikta's backstory in game
Cid rescued her from a shitty situation when she was a slave and took her under his wing >>No explanation for Hugo's backstory in game
Hugo used titan's power to his advantage to essentially gain power and control of the dhalemkian republic and its mothercrystal
>irrelevant to the story
It is LITERALLY the main fucking story of what Clive is doing and what Ultima needs to succeed, it being "lost" is because they shoddily wrote it out becuase its cut content except they forgot the entire plan of Ultima requires getting Leviathan because he requires all the Eikons
>Literally never explained in any cutscene or dialog exchange
>Nothing about how Cid worked for Barnabas for 17 fucking years is in the game >Nothing about Benedikta being a maid is in the game >Nothing about Hugo's men getting killed is how he activated as Titan the first time >Nothing about Barnabas's mom ever explained in any cutscene or dialog
No, reading ATL is not game story, that is literally put in there because not even the fucking devs could keep track of anything happening, if it's not in story dialog, NPC dialog, in world book or in world interactive text or cutscene then it's not story, 90% of the shit in the ultimania is not even in the game or the fucking ATL either and is crucial info about every character
1 week ago
Anonymous
>No, reading ATL is not game story >if it's not in story dialog, NPC dialog, in world book or in world interactive text or cutscene then it's not story
literally mental gymnastics
16 isn't fun to play, 15 is more fun to play because it has better control over animation and way more base combo variety
FF16 literally only has 1 4 hit attack string and 1 3 hit air attack string and thats it
A single fucking weapon on Noctis has more than that, let alone all of his weapons having 15x that
15 has more in common with real action than the dogshit 16 tries to call action
16 doesn't even have directional inputs or pause attacks
1 week ago
Anonymous
>it's Bazzy
lol
lmao even
1 week ago
Anonymous
>It's Nathan the gay
lol
lmao
Even fucking DMC5 has elemental affinities and ff16 doesn't
1 week ago
Anonymous
Tabata's game sold more than any Nomura game has.
Calm down, Bazzy. Take your meds and breathe.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Nathan shouldn't you be damage controlling the fact that cucklive has no directional inputs or pause attacks? Also the stagger shit is pointless since only boss and mid boss enemies even have a stagger bar, not regular grunt enemies, so what's the fucking point? it's literally filler
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Calm down, Bazzy. Take your meds and breathe.
just like my yoshitpiss. and you should know, I'm not barry. it was decided in The Discord that I'll handle low level trash like you, barry will never (you) you again
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's so funny when newfags pretend Bazzy doesn't exist.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>(It's so funny) when new(fag)s pretend Bazzy doesn't exist
JLMY
1 week ago
Anonymous
Retard.
1 week ago
Anonymous
JLMY
1 week ago
Anonymous
Between this post
and this post
There are still Nintendo cult worshippers angry, to this day that Sony took FFVII away from them and put it on the Playstation1 instead of it being on the N64. This seething will last for years.
Two new post ips have been added to the thread. Only two new posters between all those posts.
Even Forspoken is outselling FF16 in the UK
https://nintendoeverything.com/uk-software-sales-for-the-week-ending-september-2-2023/
>Forspoken 21st, was 18th the previous week >FF16 22nd, was out of the top 40 the previous week
That 29% sale on FF16 couldn't even make it outsell Forspoken lol
>He does this every single day. Since he has no job it's obvious he is on welfare
barry needs no government cheese when you pay his rent free of charge
You know what XVI reminds me of? Pic related. It's one of those ruinously stupid ideas that anyone with taste could have told them was never going to work.
But they shit it out anyway, and a few desperate mindbroken corporate drones defend it. If you're reading this post and you DEFEND the abomination that is XVI, know that everyone is laughing at you.
FF16 is complete, DLC will only flesh out the world and characters. FF15 was missing chunks during the main game. Apples and oranges.
He also lied about FF16 being a finished story when the only place you can even learn that Joshua was in a coma for 5 years and then spent another 3 years healing is in the fucking Japanese only ultimania book that released 3 months AFTER the game released, literally nowhere in the game is that ever mentioned
>It's Yoshitpiss shills which has a 99% overlap with FF14 fags.
ftfy
Flop Fantasy 16 lol
>IP count still hasn't changed
This the best you got?
Are you really that surprised? A small handful of autists are the only ones who care about this game. Even at launch with the obvious Indian "comfy" shill-threads that always hit 500 replies there were barely more than 30-40 IPs.
This. These threads are usually a few dozen mindbroken XIV-trannies fighting one insane aboriginal autist about a game the rest of the world has pretty much forgotten about.
>It's one of those ruinously stupid ideas that anyone with taste could have told them was never going to work.
Those kinds of people don't work for Square.
It's even funnier because that yakisoba meme is all because the FF14 anniversary festival they held a few weeks ago was selling yakisoba for 1000 yen and it had no toppings and was a tiny amount, just the plainest most nothing yakisoba ever, and people were all saying Yoshi-P owes them money over it
Square-Enix's CEO is doubling down on huge budget games and blockchain as a response to XVI flopping. Clive's game will have unironically killed all of Square unless a major course correction happens soon.
Current Square Enix CEO is former Johnny's (talent agency)which is caught up in sex abuse scandal they are getting dropped left and right by their media partners. He knows fuck all about video games, idiots believing that he will be better than Matsuda who appointed him there in the first place are deluded.
> What killed it?
You can only make so many shitty games until you lose your customers. Square lost me after XII + XIII, not even sure if this is any good, but I haven't even bothered to check.
To be honest I assume 90% of these threads are bullshit because I genuinely don't believe that many people own a PS5. I'll probably play and even like 16 because I'm a massive Matsunofag, but I was never going to drop 6~700 bucks to play the game. There's for certain not a massive untapped market exclusively on PS5, so the sales are honestlyy predictable. Spiderman 2 sold a grand total of 6.5M copies on PS5, and FF16 is actually pretty far ahead considering its currently at what, 3-4M or so?
I think 90% of the posters in these kind of threads are retards who have almost blatantly never seriously engaged in the actual economics of games. It's just the console war gayry for a new generation.
Right on schedule
Get ready to be schooled on why Luminous (dead studio) is totally still alive and didn't die in a horrible ESG score related accident.
Not my problem you are ignoring SE literally saying they are doing AAA development and engine development when they said they were bringing the Luminous staff back under SE proper, and as of their CEDEC presentation of new Luminous stuff only a few weeks ago we see they are in CBU2, and SE literlaly a few weeks ago just doubled down on AAA development now, which aligns with the LP staff being in CBU2 specifically doing AAA development and engine development which is used for AAA games.
>Yoshida's mainline FF game tanked the companies' stock by 15% after failing to perform past the first week hype sales, and it's on record to become the most divisive entry in the series, alienating plenty of longtime series fans while failing to bring in new audiences with its Game of Thrones inspired story or DMC-like gameplay. >Creative Business Unit 1 will be too busy for the foreseeable future with FF7R, KH4, and potentially FF9/10R. >Creative Business Unit 4 is the gacha division and unlikely to take on the mantle for the company's flagship series. >SE has now confirmed their volume of mid-sized games like Nier or Bravely will be reduced in the following years, but given no indication for what will CBU2 be doing in the meanwhile, which by the way now is in charge of the Luminous employees after Forspoken flopped.
ENTER
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OCTOPATH CREATOR
THE SERIES RESTORATOR
I still find it pretty funny how XVI chuds spammed the board for nearly a year acting like XVI was this masterpiece that could never have failed cause MUH DREAM TEAM
After being forgotten outside this schizo board and failing to sell copies while also not being talked about as a potentiat GOTY nominee, all the XVI fags have left is to cry about muh barry while pretending to act like their game mindbroke people when they cant stop seething at these threads till they hit bump limit
Its unironically over. Yoshi p is an out of touch business man that got lucky with XIV and his cultists can only cope and deflect
The fact that Yoshitpiss even said he's not gonna do ff17 or ff18 but instead do ff14 until he dies should be proof enough that that ERP simulator with a cult is the only thing he has, but even that is dying
>No, reading ATL is not game story >if it's not in story dialog, NPC dialog, in world book or in world interactive text or cutscene then it's not story
literally mental gymnastics
Nope
Reading a datalog is not valid story telling, it was bad in FF13 and it's even worse here.
>normal Ganker thread >actually talks about the game with the occasional 4chan or coomer thread
>literally every XVI for nearly a year >AAAAIIIEEEEEE BARRY BARRY BARRY TENDIE PABLO BARRY PRINCESS BUBBLE GUM [INSERT NEW BOOGEYMAN] AAAIIIEEEEE STOP DISLIKING THE GAME YOUVE NEVER PLAYED IT
>off topic, coomer, furfag, rage bait, e-boi, pol threads on Ganker >Will remain longer than 80% than any other video game related thread on Ganker.
>literally any video game related thread on Ganker >AAAAIIIEEEEEE BBC YOU JUST KNOW TODD TODD PHIL JIMBO KOJIMBO TRANNIES "SHE" LOOKS LIKE "SHE" FUCKS HUMAN MEN "HER" "SHE" GOLEM BEARS SEX JETPACK SEX GIWTWM *SNIFF* CUTE & FUNNY NGL NOT GAY ENOUGH BRO HAIRY MARE FUCK DOLPHIN KEK
I here I thought we'd ALMOST go an hour without a FF16/FF producer thread and that Barry died or something.
But apparently there must always be a fucking 16 thread on Ganker at all hours. It's not even a good game, I don't get how it causes this much seethe that it needs an hourly/daily thread.
Barry, FF16 sucks. Why are you seething about it so damn much that you'd post about it non-stop every day for months on end? It makes zero sense short of mental illness.
Barry, there's a clear difference between the rest of us who just shit on FF16, and the way you post. You don't know how to change your style of posting at all, it outs you.
I've never been called Barry once.
FF15 sold more on PS4 alone than FF16 did on PS5, so that isn't an excuse, in fact
FF13 sold more on PS3 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF12 sold more on PS2 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF10 sold more on PS2 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF9 sold more on PS1 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF8 sold more on PS1 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF7 sold more on PS1 alone than FF16 did on PS5
The person making these threads aren't a shill (unless it's some reverse psychology shit). They've been making these threads every single day for several months.
What exactly about this game mindbroke them so hard?
People are laughing at the game flopping because the shills spent years shilling this garbage and ruining FF threads, it's only natural that everyone laughs at the FF16 shills at every opportunity since we know it is the lowest selling AAA FF in history and was complete trash.
But the person making these threads has done so daily. Every single day. For months.
So what exactly about this game mindbroke them so hard that would cause them to do that?
>person
First assumption there and nothing to back it up, countless people are laughing at how poorly FF16 is doing because of how annoying the FF16 shills were to begin with.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Nevermind, looks like someone is actually answering here:
Search up "Barry", "I stumbled across it", and "wowg".
Apparently a twitter account called HKMORON will also bring info up the individual making these.
He did the same for Hi-fi Rush, except weekly, because people were saying it was better than his beloved Luminous Productions game.
1 week ago
Anonymous
NPD shows Forspoken outsold it though.
Also Forspoken is ahead of FF16 in the UK even though FF16 has a 29% sale, so that means Forspoken is more desired than FF16
Search up "Barry", "I stumbled across it", and "wowg".
Apparently a twitter account called HKMORON will also bring info up the individual making these.
There are still Nintendo cult worshippers angry, to this day that Sony took FFVII away from them and put it on the Playstation1 instead of it being on the N64. This seething will last for years.
He's mad because the FF15 Negress DLC flopped so hard they killed Luminous Productions and blames Yoshida because they officially killed it on his bday.
Also there is something about a little rhythm game about having sex with a cat winning and he took offense to that.
XV was made by Square Enix not Luminous Productions you retard, Luminous Productions didnt' even exist as an entity until April 2018, which was an entire month after FFXV even released on PC. FFXV was made by Square Enix Business Division 2 who then were rebranded as their own wholly owned SE subsidiary called Luminous Productions in April 2018, physically they were still at the same office space as they were as Business Division 2 internally within SE, then in 2023 SE remerged them on paper them back into SE proper as Creative Business Unit 2
The purpose of them even doing Luminous Productions that way was to specifically do new AAA IP, the reason they brought the staff back as SE proper and categorized as Creative Business Unit 2 is because they said they will be doing AAA development of EXISTING SE IP in addition to continuing the Engine Development they had been doing since they were Business Division 2
That chud cat game never once ranked on NPD while Forpsoken ranked on the YTD for 5 months, even longer than Octopath 2 ranked meaning Forspoken made more money than Octopath 2 too.
Since you're a fucking idiot that is a trailer for Episode Ardyn which released in March 2019, almost a year AFTER BD2 had become Luminous Productions you stupid fucking idiot, the staff are still at SE and are just CBU2 now
>ffxvi lost
lmao. Barrychud is so delusional. FF16 sold for over 200 million, that's a very successful game by that measure alone. It's also better received critically than its predecessor
>3 million copies sold at $70 each is not 210 million
chudbarry is so low iq that xhe can't understand revenue. That's what sniffing gasoline and watching chud porn does to an individual. lol
>3 millions
*2 >210 millions
*150 at best, which is divided among Sony, resellers and Square.
>XVI chuds so fucking retarded they think SE gets 100% of the revenue and ignores the 30% that goes to retailers/distribution/Sony
At absolute fucking maximum FF16 made $147m, according to SE's own financial report it caused an operating income LOSS ie FF16 has not profited yet, meaning FF16 cost over $147m and has made $0 in profit
FF16 was a colossal failure
Nevermind that but the fact that SQUARE ENIX already put FF16 on sale this quick is because they are desperately trying to reignite sales momentum for the remaining stock so they can get retailers to order more stock so that FF16 can even begin to profit, which it has not even started to do so yet after 3 months because the launch 3m has not even all sold to consumers, and FF16 cannot begin to profit until ADDITIONAL shipment get sent out, and even then the legs of FF16 are so fucking abysmal that it would barely be in the few hundreds of thousands worth of additional shipment at best
chudbarries really are idiots. Can't differentiate between revenue and profit, except for the last gaslighter. SE said ff16 is a success, just did not reach their UPPER SALES PROJECTION which are often too high. It flopping will erase any substancial dlc from being made, which it will have, unlike ffxv. lol
>XVI >success
reminder that in one of its biggest regions it fell out of famitsu charts meaning its not even selling one thousand copies a week in japan
1 week ago
Anonymous
>using a chinky article reader channel using badly-sourced news to prove a point
lmao. Barrychud keeps sinking so low just to score.
>XVI chuds so fucking retarded they think SE gets 100% of the revenue and ignores the 30% that goes to retailers/distribution/Sony
At absolute fucking maximum FF16 made $147m, according to SE's own financial report it caused an operating income LOSS ie FF16 has not profited yet, meaning FF16 cost over $147m and has made $0 in profit
FF16 was a colossal failure
Nevermind that but the fact that SQUARE ENIX already put FF16 on sale this quick is because they are desperately trying to reignite sales momentum for the remaining stock so they can get retailers to order more stock so that FF16 can even begin to profit, which it has not even started to do so yet after 3 months because the launch 3m has not even all sold to consumers, and FF16 cannot begin to profit until ADDITIONAL shipment get sent out, and even then the legs of FF16 are so fucking abysmal that it would barely be in the few hundreds of thousands worth of additional shipment at best
>At absolute fucking maximum FF16 made $147m, according to SE's own financial report it caused an operating income LOSS ie FF16 has not profited yet, meaning FF16 cost over $147m and has made $0 in profit
you can't read a financial report, or you'd know FF16 is profitable since the week after its launch week
>or you'd know FF16 is profitable since the week after its launch week
Literally nowhere does it say this you fucking idiot
FF16s 3 million shipped and digital sales are counted as "sales" only to square enix, retailers buy the shipment which is what SE gets money from for all physical units, they do not get money when a consumer buys a physical game because they already got the money for that physical unit
They only get money when a consumer buys a digital version of the game
Since we know it was 3 million shipped + digital sales and in best case scenario it was 50:50 split, that means it sold 1.5m digitally in its first week and shipped 1.5m physically, so SE gets the money for those
HOWEVER, the shipment is not 1.5m sold to consumers, of that 1.5m at best only around 1m actually sold to consumers, meaning that despite SE getting money for the 3m, the actual to consumer sales is around 2.5m
SE said that all costs of FF16 were counted in Q1 FY 2024, and we know that FF16 revenue was not enough to offset that as the OI had a huge dip, meaning that FF16 did not recoup its costs from the revenue from the 3m, which at best would be $147m beause of 30% cut going to retailers/distro/Sony
The report says additional sales will be profit, what this means is only additional SHIPMENT and digital sales onward over the 3m is only what would be counted as profit
FF16 sold again to consumers 2.5m at best, its physical sales have barely been 300k in the last 3 months so it has not even sold out its launch shipment, and its digital sales are abysmal in its biggest regions, not even in top 20 in the EU and is below Remnant 2 which did 1m, 800k on Steam so less than 200k on PS5
So FF16 has barely done 90k in Japan since week 2 physically, it's 2nd biggest region, did barely 100k in the US since week 2, barely 90k in the EU since week 2, dead everywhere else, and below 100k digitally in its biggest region the US, dead in EU and dead in Japan
Still $0 profit
1 week ago
Anonymous
you can write any shit you want. Facts remain that FF16 is profitable since the start of this quarter
1 week ago
Anonymous
No it hasn't you fucking idiot, it says that FF16 can only begin to profit in this quarter since it can only get additional sales (shipment or digital) from July onward, not that it HAS started to profit yet, because it has not even actually sold 3 million to consumers yet so it cannot even profit yet.
And even if it has started to profit it would only be from whatever it has done digitally in the last 2 months which is fucking ABYSMAL, literally barely 200k globally, that is fucking dogshit in terms of profit and not even remotely worth the investment it took to make FF16 just for that much at its highest possible price point, and it's already been put on sale at that
1 week ago
Anonymous
All sales from july 1st onwards are profits, it doesn't matter what math or cope you're trying to come up with. Profits for the game started on july 1st.
1 week ago
Anonymous
No they are not you retard, all additional SHIPMENT and digital sales beyond the 3m is what would be profit, it has had 0 shipment and has barely even sold 200k digitally in 2 months which is fucking nothing
It still has not even sold beyond 3m to consumers
1 week ago
Anonymous
>it has had 0 shipment
you literally don't know that >It still has not even sold beyond 3m to consumers
it did in its first week
1 week ago
Anonymous
We do because if it had an additional amount sent out SE would have claimed so, like with FF7R doing 5m which was when they sent out additional units, or when XV hit 6m because they sent out an additional 1m of units
SE would announce FF16s additional units if it had anything >It did
not, it shipped 1.5m and sold 1.5m digitally in best case scenario, it sold only around 2.5m to consumers at best, since week 2 to now it has sold only at best 250k physically and barely 200k digitally
1 week ago
Anonymous
>pulling numbers out of my ass is proof
Square isn't obligated to announce extra shipments, they almost never do, unless they need all the good press they can get to not scare investors off, like this was the case with the xv project, which was a huge unsalvageable money sink
1 week ago
Anonymous
So you're just coping
16 needs all the good press it can get which is why they did that damage control PR with IGN despite it going against the thing in the financial report 2 weeks later which was FF16 tanking SE
With XV they literally said it exceeded expectations, with Ff16 they said it did below their high expectations
1 week ago
Anonymous
>they did that damage control PR with IGN despite it going against the thing in the financial report 2 weeks later which was FF16 tanking SE
that's your headcanon >Ff16 they said it did below their high expectations
meaning it was sitting somewhere beetween mid and high range of sales projections. low range = not profitable, mid range = profitable, high range = very profitable
1 week ago
Anonymous
>that's your headcanon
No that's literally reality
>meaning it was sitting somewhere beetween mid and high range of sales projections
No, meaning that despite fucking doing $147m it did not even come anywhere near their high end so it is a fucking failure and has no fucking profited, they did not say it hit mid range you lying fuck, they said it did not hit the high end, and there is no such thing as mid range anyway, this is your headcanon and cope
It fucking flopped
If it's not even in the high end despite making $147m then that is fucking trash and a flop
1 week ago
Anonymous
The Pixel Remasters also have sold 3M while costing like 5% of what XVI did and the bundle being sold at a price point of at least 75$. Chances are it's responsible in a larger way for Q1 profits than 16.
1 week ago
Anonymous
the pixels remasters were sold separately and released over 2 years ago, and each game costs like 10-15 dollars
1 week ago
Anonymous
The pixel remaster budget were split over the 6 games, and collectively they sold 3 million as SE counts them as one thing, they also sold them as bundles and had even more expensive physical bundles too, since it had an astronomically lower budget it means the % of its revenue that it was made was bigger amount of profit than FF16 has made
1 week ago
Anonymous
>repackaging old ROMs of NES/SNES Final Fantasy made wayyy more money than Yoshi P’s high budget new FF that was supposed to define generations
HAHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAY
1 week ago
Anonymous
Now yoshitpiss its trying to put those games inside the MMO i cant think other thing more cucked than that
1 week ago
Anonymous
nta, but they actually put in more effort than just throw on some ROMs.
They actually rebuilt the games from the ground up in Unity.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>they did not say it hit mid range you lying fuck, they said it did not hit the high end
not hitting high end means it's somewhere between middle and high you numbskull, or they would've said it didn't meet expectations period
1 week ago
Anonymous
There is no middle you fuck, only high or low, it didn't hit high so it was low, they literally didn't say it met "mid" expectations
Again the fact that it made $147 and it hasn't even hit its HIGH END means it fucking flopped, meaning that it cost more than $147 to make and that they expected it to make more than $147m yet it has not
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm so fucking done lol, keep pulling numbers out of your ass
1 week ago
Anonymous
Keep coping over the fact FF16 has made no profit and SE said it didn't meet high end of sales despite it making fucking $147m, meaning a number above $147m is what is high end
1 week ago
Anonymous
>le 147 gorillion
Anon is right, you're inventing numbers and make them your headcanon. Seek help.
1 week ago
Anonymous
they conjure fake numbers all day everyday
1 week ago
Anonymous
they conjure fake numbers all day everyday
Retard
$70 x 3 million is $210m
30% of that goes to retailers, distrobution, Sony, so 30% off of $210m is $147
At fucking best FF16 made $147m
If you think FF16 made more than $147m then that means that number higher than that is too low to hit SE's high end expectation that they expected it to hit, any lower than that and you are implying FF16 shipped+digitally sold even less than 3m
1 week ago
Anonymous
Oh what's this? It seems you've poured over the data. It's true the snoyim were born to serve. I appreciate your toil snoy, now get back to work
1 week ago
Anonymous
why 3M
1 week ago
Anonymous
3m is the number of the shipment combined with the amount of digital sales they had in week 1, the physical shipment is not sales to consumers its sales to retailers, consumers then buy physically from retailers
FF16 didn't even make $150m yet, it hasn't even fucking profited and it cost over $185m, it was a complete fucking flop and Japanese analysts say it lost SE money
>FF16 didn't even make $150m yet
no source >it hasn't even fucking profited and it cost over $185m
no source + sony's paycheck highly likely over $100 million
$70 x 3 million is 210m
30% off 210m means $147m, meaning FF16 at best only made $147m
All of FF16 costs were counted in Q1 FY 2024 which had a huge dip in Operating Income, meaning the entire costs of FF16 did not incur any profit whatsoever from whatever revenue it made, which again was $147m at best, meaning FF16 cost more than $147m and has yet to profit
Sony paid even more for Forspoken than FF16 you tard, they have 2 years of console exclusivity for Forspoken vs only 6 months for FF16
>All of FF16 costs were counted in Q1 FY 2024 which had a huge dip in Operating Income
correct, as were development costs of many other projects, it's called amortization, hence the huge dip in operating income.
Translation : FF XVI was profitable enough to take the hit for this quarter, and development costs for other projects, announced or not, can be amortized to lighten future quarters hits, should they happen
Nope, FF16 costs were all counted in Q1 which is what caused the dip, it did not profit despite its revenue of $147m at best
1 week ago
Anonymous
>FF16 costs were all counted in Q1
that's literally what I just said, FF16 profitable enough to pay of its entire development + partly pay fo other projects development costs.
the dip wasn't caused by this, but by abysmal mobile revenue performance
1 week ago
Anonymous
Its really cheap putting a crappy cosplay sword at london tower with guards?
1 week ago
Anonymous
It was not profitable at all, it has not profited anything, all its 3m worth of sales did not even offset its costs into profitability
1 week ago
Anonymous
>they paid off all of FF16's development debt by Q1 which is only a week after the game released, instead of it being done via monthly payments which only begins after the product has launched and it has generated income, please believe me
That has to be the worst deal I've ever heard of. Let me guess, you don't have any proof either and you're simply talking out of your ass?
1 week ago
Anonymous
All sales to pay posting a sword in london tower
1 week ago
Anonymous
That is literally what happened you retard, they stated it that they organised their books so that is how it was set up.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Let me know once you've got the proof for that claim, champ.
1 week ago
Anonymous
They big scared
1 week ago
Anonymous
The fact that SE literally said so, the fact that every fucking analyst also said so, the fact that SE investors analysts all said so.
the chud thing is fake. Some people on wowg (before jannies cleaned up the xivg invaders) had some people call yoshi p by yoshit piss like barry because xivg fags liked invading the wowg threads
oneday some guy links chud porn saying “yoshit piss” and everyone thinks its barry
barry is an autist who loves XV and anything related to it like FLOPspoken. He has no reason to be in wowg and i havent seen any evidence of him shilling flopspoken or XV there
if you call this out tho, the xivg fag will just call you barry because hes a newfag that likely came to this board because asmongold was shilling xiv at the time and brought many people to this site by constantly mentioning wowg on stream
thats the story. There are some autists who have known barry since 2015 here but many of the people shouting barry are literally newfag asmongold fags who came here and started repeating phrases to fit in
This is how you're attempting to deflect from getting caught, Barry?
You really think this works?
It's just chud porn. Stop pissing yourself just because you were accidentally caught liking it. The only reason people point it out is because you lose your shit about it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>ip count didn't go up
1 week ago
Anonymous
I was literally responding to a post responding to my post. That would be expected behavior, yes.
Anon, how do you think the unique counter works?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>ip still doesn't increase
1 week ago
Anonymous
im just laughing how you are so obsessed over calling me barry while having chud shit still in your head
you gotta know this. People use the barry scapegoat but there are multiple schizos in this thread that are here everytime who have not been named yet
Barry is just a famous one cause he has an obvious copypasted posting style thats been doing it for months but many of the people here are schizos at the same level as barry. Oneday they will be known as their own type of schizo
yes. Im not gonna say its him 100% but a retard posted the “stumbled upon it” pic on twitter replying to barrys tweet
The retard was named HKmoron and his twitter shows hes a XIV zoomer who defends the series to death (despite being a literal toddler when the series fucking died)
He is likely just as insane as barry while also likely being a newfag zoomzoom
1 week ago
Anonymous
That retarded posting style gets caught in the IP bans barry. You're not fooling anyone. Fuckoff back to /gif/ brownie
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/629844857/#q629853385
1 week ago
Anonymous
Barry had a shit ton of his posts deleted yesterday in a DLC thread.
All claiming to "totally be not Barry" despite posting exactly the same.
Correct. He's actually an immigrant and not born Australian.
he was caught last year in wowg linking a bunch of chud porn because he "stumbled across it", thinking it looked similar to the Yoshi producer referenced in these threads
For some mentally ill reason, he thought showing his chud porn would be an "own". It's weird.
>Correct. He's actually an immigrant and not born Australian.
(he was caught last year in wowg linking a bunch of chud porn) because he "stumbled across it", thinking it looked similar to the Yoshi producer referenced in these threads
For some (mentally ill) reason, he thought showing his (chud) porn would be an "own". It's (weird).
just like my yoshitpiss
There is no proof that was barry who said that, there is proof that it is you hkmoron who keeps posting that and exposed yourself on twitter as some zoomer who wasn't even alive 22 years ago
Yep, Barry linking the chud porn is one of the funnier things to emerge from this several year sperging out
He used to just rage at whoever would post the image, thinking it was that HKMORON twitter account following him onto Ganker. Within the past few weeks, Barry changed up to samefagging several posts saying "where's the proof" in the exact same style every time.
Barry couldn't figure out how to handle his chud thing getting outed.
He used to just rage about a tweeter named HKMORON about it (and it looks like he's doing some of that in here in addition), but his latest thing is being "totally-not-barry" trying to white knight Barry's honor.
Nowadays the two major non-Nintendo jap IPs are Monster Hunter and Souls games.
In a week or so we are gonna see MH6 announced and no one will even mention FF16 anymore
>In a week or so we are gonna see MH6 announced and no one will even mention FF16 anymore
I think Barry actually has to actually die IRL for that to actually happen. He's incapable of stopping, he's obsessed for some reason (I'm not aware of the lore on why that is, just that apparently it's been going on for years)
Mental illness most likely. Ganker gets a lot of them.
Yesterday had an anon sperg out over disagreeing over opinions on character clothing options in some RPG thread, and went off the rest of the thread on everyone disagreeing with his opinion. Character clothing.
Could you explain what you mean with this sentence? This doesn't make any sense in English. Might be a translation mistake.
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's done by an app that detects character traits unique to yoship and isolates them. it's just like my yoshitpiss
1 week ago
Anonymous
This one wasn't translated correctly either. I'm sorry, I don't know how to help you out here anon.
1 week ago
Anonymous
you see square gave me software to help out barry, it's a counter chud job, doesn't pay very well but I enjoy the work
1 week ago
Anonymous
The sentence structure here is sound, but it makes no sense in context.
Sorry anon, I'm going to go ahead and move on since we can't get that cleared up.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>The sentence structure here is sound, but (it makes no sense) in context.
Sorry anon, I'm going to go ahead and move on since we can't get that cleared up.
just like my yoshitpiss
see? The software identified the yoshit indicator and isolated it, isn't that rad
1 week ago
Anonymous
They're ESL. They're trying to make a joke of some kind I think, but it doesn't really make sense when you're an English speaker.
People typically just skip over those posts.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>ip count didn't go up
1 week ago
Anonymous
I had a hunch. Didn't want to be a dick in case they were actually genuine.
1 week ago
Anonymous
no bro you were very cordial and I appreciate it, I'm just trying to earn a living
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm free to answer any questions you may have about the software, ask away
I really wish we had IDs so the schizos like HKmoron cant just call everyone who disagrees with him barry and would need to actually defend his pathetic arguments
kek even if we had account names you would still be melting down and schizo posting about how that account is 100% barrys alt that he went back in time to make for this very thread
Sometimes Im glad these threads exist to expose how schizophrenic the yoshi p/XVI and XIV communities are and how fucking bad they are
reminder, barry mindbroke them so hard that they started obsessing over him in wowg and it got so bad for nearly a year that a janny had to come in and stay in the threads 24/7 for a month banning every xiv schizo. It got so bad that jannies banished them to mmog (which ended up dying cause they can only scream barry in their asylum threads before they wanted to blow their brains out)
>barry still sperging about proof
Lmao if you weren't so defensive about it, it would have probably passed by now. How you keep fucking up this bad on an anonymous board with countless VPNs at your disposal is a true art form.
So you have no proof? I just want you to post proof, the fact that you keep regurgitating about it is kinda weird for something you have no proof over, could it be... that you are just regurgitating a lie to seethe over your boogeyman because you don't actually have anything on them?
He's a paki/jeet immigrant. They get like $800 neetbux and a house for being trans and brown.
1 week ago
Anonymous
finally a snoyim with honor emerges. Thank you for linking your proof for the thread. I didn't open the image but I appreciate your toil all the same, snoy
because it flopped only in Ganker's collective mind. There's no legal obligation to even make one in the first place since it wasn't guaranteed to happen nor sold to people prior to the game's launch
Good writing. Automata barely sold 1M during its first month, but word of mouth about it legged the game throughout the years.
XVI is the opposite case, a lot of people bought it during the opening week and then were massively disappointed by the narrative, in a game that is 2/3rd cutscenes.
The music in Nier is also astronomical god tier, while 16 has the worst OST in the franchise with only like 1 good track which is only good because it had a composer who also worked on FFXV arrange it (find the flame)
By offering a high quality gaming experience that doesn't try to cheat you like Final Fantasy where they sell trash and think the brand power will make up for it being bad?
Alright lads my shift is over, all counter chud gimmicks related to my id are to cease immediately. Good work and I'll see you in The Discord for debriefing. Hail Barry
(Pixel Remasters)
Since they already got a base engine down in Unity that they used to create the Pixel Remasters, I'd love if they made a throwback-style new game with that engine. Would be a shame to not utilize it again, and people are loved the classic games might enjoy a new one in that style.
Hasn’t been released on Xbox or PC yet. Don’t see the issue. These threads as are sad. If you think the game is so bad why do you keep making these attention threads. I literally went and got a copy on sale the other day.
The BD2/LP staff are in CBU2 now so the team is still 1 single AAA team still working on AAA development and still doing engine development on Luminous
https://cedec.cesa.or.jp/2023/session/detail/s642675c24ff1b
How does he have that kind of time to obsessively post on 5ch, Ganker, and twitter the sheer volume that he does?
Does he get government assistance money or something?
>XVI cultists falling for fake screenshots for posts that dont exist
>I stumbled across it
Lmao
I still go back and read that archive every once in a while. Fun times.
>Who will take responsibility for the failure of FF16? lol >Who is the war criminal? >Isn't it Yoshida-san, the producer? >A company that seems to be able to get by just by paying lip service >Whoever's in charge >Isn't it the person who produced it after all? >A director who doesn't even get talked about >It's a big failure when you're expecting a deficit of about 10 billion yen, because off-game games are usually made so that they can break even on the first try. >The person who created the scenario and the person who gave the green light to the scenario.
https://kizuna.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1693894111
How does he have that kind of time to obsessively post on 5ch, Ganker, and twitter the sheer volume that he does?
Does he get government assistance money or something?
Look at you go, that might be the fastest reply I have ever received. So eager to serve I am truly impressed. How would you feel about going into the snoyim hall of fame?
Because there was no category for RT implementation or anything you tard
Sakurai won 3 of the 5 awards, TOTK won 1 and HFR only got the sound one because its a rhythm game that did something new with its sound implementation
>tango CEO gets outed from tango a week after HFR releases >LumiPro staff work on FF16 right after Forspoken releases >Get assigned as SE CBU2 on AAA dev and still using Luminous since May >HFR never charts on NPD while Forspoken did for 5 months straight on YTD list
>[Sad news] Yahoo! Comment: ``FF16 is the most boring game in FF history'' ``I don't need DLC! Create FF17'' >gan******** >FF16 was the most boring game in FF history.
They didn't need any DLC, so create FF17. please! >For your next work, please stop playing the "Wow, this is an amazing video!!" game! Please make a proper "Roll Playing Game"!
>rps******** >If you mean that ``FF16's evaluation will be based on DLC in the future,'' then the current FF16 is an unfinished product at full price (and nearly 10,000 yen including tax). ) I can only say that it's a problem product sold by
>njm******** >Return to the basics? I feel like FF16 has become a completely different game. So I tried the trial version and thought it was different, so I didn't buy it. Since FF9 was available for free, I've been playing it and I'm satisfied.
That was before we knew they would even put a AAA team in CBU2, since they put them in CBU2 of course we know that CBU2 now has a AAA team in them which is them, but keep coping since it was you who was saying LP staff had to answer to yoshitpiss now, when in reality they are CBU2 now
>but keep coping since it was you who was saying LP staff had to answer to yoshitpiss now
you were the one in that image saying they joined CBU3 lmao, not me
You were the one in those threads saying LP would have to answer to CBU3 but keep coping, that was before we knew they would even be allowed to put them in CBU2 since CBU2 had no AAA team, but SE doubling down on AAA dev and putting them in CBU2 means they just gave CBU2 its first AAA team
1 week ago
Anonymous
Barry your track record for predictions is awful, you seriously have a curse that fucks you over at every opportunity
if you keep saying they're working on FF17 the universe will make sure it doesn't happen
1 week ago
Anonymous
Lol got anymore?
1 week ago
Anonymous
one of my faves
1 week ago
Anonymous
The gullibility of the snoyim knows no end it would seem, thank you snoy I'll add to my worthless collection
1 week ago
Anonymous
>mmoslop
You mean fake sockpuppet accounts and not legitimate userscores like other games? Yeah we know FF14 fags are desperate to fake scores, meanwhile on amazon FF16 lost to FF15 userreviews and the true score of ff16 userscore is below FF15 before ff14 trannies raided and faked scores at a higher rate than even TOTK was getting userscores added
5ch is even shitting on FF16 because the screenshots in the ultimania are too fucking dark to see anything lmao
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1694139575
FF16 lost $147m, it has made $0 profit, Forspoken meanwhile had more of its budget paid by Sony, and taht $100m included DLC, the amount sony paid and marketting, so it really only cost $55m, and Forspoken sold at least 1.5m sold which is enough to cover its costs and profit a little bit, but not a lot
FF16 hasn't even profited at all
Forspoken has 2 years of Sony console exclusivity, FF16 only has 6 months of Sony console exclusivity, so yes, you fucking idiot
Also multiple insiders said Sony was more interested in Forspoken than FF16, when Forspoken was announced they made all their banners on social media Forspoken ones, they never did that for FF16
BD5 was killed
FF16 hacks are confirmed to not be making FF17 and are only on FF14 dead on arrival MMO trash nobody plays
Forspoken staff are in CBU2 on a AAA SE existing IP and still doing Luminous engine development for AAA games
That isn't sales price you retard that is trade in price, and FF16 had an even lower price than that the week it launched
The fact that pokemon price is off there too shows that is trade in price because pokemon never goes on sale
your brown lol
how's that even an insult when snoyim are br monkeys and american blacks
who's brown?
He cannot handle it anymore
Always knew he wasn't White. Really low IQ.
>He cannot handle it anymore
that sounds just like my yoshitpiss
AHAHAHAHAHA
Flop of the century
>your
XVI cultists can't even spell
It's always funny when third world children try to call other people brown.
My brown what?
The only thing brown is the shit I just took on your forehead, dumb Yoshitpiss shill.
>6 barry replies
the absolute seethe. is this the limits of brown iq, or can it go further?
People are waiting for the pc version.
I guarantee you it's gonna flop there too, even FF7R only did 500k in over a year on Steam, fucking Forspoken had a higher launch month on Steam than FF7R did.
FF7R came to PC after 2 years of exclusivity(Ebin store doesn't count). XVI seems to ignore Ebin and go straight into Steam now that Timmy is bankrupt lol.
Steam players don't care if PC version comes to another PC platform first, if its on Steam then Steam has an audience, too bad FF7R flopped
XV sold more than double on PC than FF7R did and FF7R came to PC only like 3 months later than what it took XV
>Steam players don't care if PC version comes to another PC platform first
Given both Stranger of Paradise and 7R flopped on PC because of that I don't think so.
why do people always cope with this. games don't sell on pc. that's just a fact.
>noooooo my steamcharts!
yet every game we get is a console port. curious. almost like consoles are every devs primary audience
IT'S OVER.
It being trash made for a non-existing audience.
Kek, yoshi-chuds went from being smug to one hair's width from roping themselves. How's that 18 month plan working for you?
action combat
Why does this game causes so much seethe?
You are mindbroken after taking so many L's.
?
Devs celebrated the sales
Good rating
It's fun
Additional content is coming
It's coming to PC (as planned earlier)
I don't see the Ls you're talking about
there it is, another L
>no argument
ok
No they didn't
No it doesnt
No it isnt
Cut content being sold back
We already knew a shitty PC port was happening after launch since fucking 2020, nobody cares
It's just nintendies and BBCobsessed hapas raiding the chon, as always.
can you please stop talking like this? it's fucking gross
XVI cultists have been notoriously obnoxiously shilling XVI for 3 years and being annoying gays trying to act like CBU3 would "save" single player FF, only for FFXVI to be the lowest selling AAA FF in history, and now even FFXIV is dying, so it just outed CBU3 as incompetent and the shills as retards.
Those shills have been on damage control over FFXVI for months now and people are rightfully shitting on them after having to put up with years of their obnoxious shilling and retardation.
is it the 14 players? I honestly can't figure out their devotion to this game
It's Yoshi-P shills which has a 99% overlap with FF14 fags.
>It's Yoshitpiss shills which has a 99% overlap with FF14 fags.
ftfy
Sorry, my mistake, won't happen again.
live and learn player
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>Why does this game causes so much seethe?
It shouldn't be that difficult to understand, considering Final Fantasy has traditionally been turnbased. And yet FF16 is the opposite while being heralded by anti-turnbased turn-phobics as the game that would kill the genre they insist is archaic and better off dead.
>considering Final Fantasy has traditionally been turnbased
You mean 1-2-3-10? 4 games out of 16.
ATB is turnbased. I am not arguing with you again. You're insane.
>ATB is turnbased.
It's objectively not.
Square thinks otherwise.
Really? Sure they say it's real-time.
insure turn based chuds like
they'd rather seethe at this game daily then play their recycled menu sim shit
Ganker is turnbased and it has objectively better gameplay than any turnbased vidya. I can't really blame they/them.
>Ganker is turnbased and it has objectively better gameplay than any turnbased vidya
Kek holy shit. How true this is.
>4 schizo in a row ruining the world
Its a great idea as an antijrpg game
I mean im sure people are seething but everytime Id say something as piss warm as
>ot doesn't look or feel like FF I don't care
People would shit their pants at me
Its couple chingchongs spamming these same tired threads daily.
trannies, brown people, some people who are obssesed with the game to see it fail etc, take your pick.
The game its white as fuck, only 2 fags, that's it. A lot of /v fags shit on it, but in the same time they shill and defend baldur gay 3 who has gays, trannies, zoophilia, reddit humor and writing, etc.
Barry is big brother
you are little sister
>The game its white as fuck, only 2 fags, that's it
Oh how low standards have fallen.
One guy making hundreds of daily threads seething about it since it was first announced, and still doing it after its release? Most likely the same dude obsessed with the mmorpg? It's beyond shitposting. Legit mental illness.
>make Final Fantasy for the West
>it stops charting in every region after two months
I was very interested in 16 until it became apparent they weren't actually making a final fantasy, I'd imagine that's a big contributor to 16's dead market
NFCI
handsome and stylish devil that one
>Create beloved franchise with outworldly atmosphere and interesting fantasy like companions
Let's make everyone boring human in a medieval western setting
>Create the best combat system to date in ffvii remake, perfectly blending action with turn based
Let's ignore it and make the game Ifrit May Cry lmao
>Be known for party based game
We want that modern audience, let's go with solo protagonist
Fuck them. Square has an identity crisis and lack of artistic vision. They got blown the fuck out by baldurs gate 3 doing everything they said was outdated. Fuck them.
>bald trannies
>Create the best combat system to date in ffvii remake
It's so good it's inconsistent in every two battles lmao.
Barry's still making these threads every day, huh?
huh?
He needs to touch grass
>still obsessed after almost 3 months
PS5 is the epic game store of consoles
It's been a while since I stumbled across one of these threads.
Is luminous still dead?
it's over
>I stumbled across it
>clive rosenstein
Its legit a mediocre game that is forgotten easily. It doesn't stand out, the story is GoT slop that somehow turns into an attempt of a FF story, the combat is servicable but has no variation, the characters are entirely forgettable (or get killed because of muh dark n gritty). Shit it doesn't even have good porn. Should have been a FF side game, absolute disgrace as a main line game.
Here u go
FF16 slop can't even get a pity award this year because of BG3 and Starfield, lmao.
oh wow both of those games beat the soundtrack
15 got 0 awards lmfao
XV was the biggest flop of the entire FF franchise, even floppier than Spirits Within
See
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/username/jillfag/
We know you take off your name when trying to shitpost harder
PC version is coming out in what, 2 months?
Exclusivity deal until 2024
Out of top 30 in japan.
Dead game
Dead franchise
Fuck Yoshida
Fuck Square
>IP count didn't change
FF is dead
And Yoshitpiss killed it...
Because of FFXVI being such garbage that sank FF now the FF9 remake and FF7R part 2 is going to struggle to sell
>IP count did not change
Rent free KEK onions español gilipollas
they're breaking I'm not even joking. The Discord has become too powerful too fast, we need to slow down before we kill all of the shitsteeners
Anon
kek it's such a delight to see you so utterly Barry-Broken. the mental image of you frantically checking the thread stats after every post is hysterical
You triggered the cultist
If we had IDs and flags (especially if retroactively) it would be funny to see the amount of australian samefagging kek
>ip remains the same
Schizo-kun, it's my first post, calm down.
You are brown.
Brownoid Barry's getting desperate now.
FF7EC flop tanked CyberAgent's stock, Square Enix took a hit, too. Your franchise is dead. Square will go bankrupt a few years down the line, lol. Yoshida = hack fraud, Nomura = hack fraud. They literally have nothing to save their asses.
brown
just like my yoshits
FF has been dead for a long time
Its just a shambling corpse left, and a bunch of manchildren that can't let go
>Yoshida announces 2 DLC and PC port
>stock starts dumping again
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
that's a very strong buying signal if I see one. That gap will be filled aggressively when ff7r launches if not filled in the coming days
>Only 3 spots above Atlas fallen in the US
>Not even in the top 20 in the EU while Atlas fallen is
>Atlas fallen categorically bombed
>12 lower than Remnant 2 US which sold only 1m and did over 800k on Steam
Holy fuck FF16 is dead
Jill being rat faced used goods.
Clive being a gay self-insert for Yoshida.
Clive is a western copy of the xenogear mc they just put the freudian shit to barney and the schizo shit dies before cid
B.A.R.R.Y. is winning on the quality of shitposts alone. yoshichuds post ancient screenshots and race bait like garden gnomes in a 4chan thread.
Looks like it's starting to really get under your brown skin
not at all I enjoy the race baiting
He is too powerful
They lost so hard they desperately want to take attention from their shitty game.
The B man won
I kneel
>Barry seething about being called brown
This is your final fantasy xvi yoshitpiss
Humiliation of the century.
FF is unironically a dead franchise.
Yoshitpiss keeps destroying the FF brand
He must pay for his war crimes
>you need a gaystation 5 to play it
Snoys only play COD and Fornite nowdays.
Every moron that buyed ps5 this year is for moronman 2
YEH
I'm kind of surprised there are a small handful of shills still defending this trash (even if they have to make hate-threads as bait just to get anyone to even talk about it). XVI and it's maker made a mockery of everything a JRPG is and what their own copany had built over 30+ years.
No amount of DLC or ports will save a product that has betrayed its genre, its legacy and its playerbase. The only thing interesting about this game is to see if it's just ruined manline Final Fantasy or if it will bring all of Square Enix down with it.
>No amount of DLC or ports will save a product that has betrayed its genre, its legacy and its playerbase.
I find it extremely ironic that FF16 seems to be treading the same path as FF15 did yet Yoshida defense force praises it instead of foaming at the mouth like they do with FF15. FF16 is unifnished crap where the producer lied about "no DLCs planned".
He also lied about FF16 being a finished story when the only place you can even learn that Joshua was in a coma for 5 years and then spent another 3 years healing is in the fucking Japanese only ultimania book that released 3 months AFTER the game released, literally nowhere in the game is that ever mentioned
How is Joshua's coma relevant to the story ? Anyone with a brain knows he didn't suddenly set on a journey to learn about Ultima when he was fucking 10
Because he is the MAIN CHARACTERS BROTHER WHO KNEW HE WAS A FUCKING SLAVE AND DID NOTHING? And "killing" Joshua is literally the entire source of Clive's guilt for the first fucking half of the game? Except he wasn't actually fucking dead and he was somehow saved offscreen, which btw, the fucking Ultimania confirms that the secret order DID NOT SAVE HIM FROM DEATH, he just miraculously survived and they just found him, he was in a coma for 5 years, then they healed him for the next 3, then for another 5 years he did fucking nothing to even try and save Clive from his slavery even though he could fucking FLY, and he had no reason to even hide his presence
It was just dogshittily written
Oh and the
>b-but Ultima could see where Clive is then
Shit doesn't work because Joshua and Clive eventually DO reunite and Ultima doesn't fucking do shit to come between them
Know what the most retarded ultimaniac lore drop? Mad ultimacius dropped his chud body to flight to another fucking continent instead of traveling space
>WHO KNEW HE WAS A FUCKING SLAVE AND DID NOTHING?
he was away from Clive because the undying wanted him fucking dead for trying to kill him, retard.
Can't even bother reading the rest of your schizo babble since you either haven't played the game, or can't pay attention for 5 seconds
> We got the fire pitbull guy unsconcious and defenseless
> Let him alive because [PLOT]
did you miss the first two paragraphs of my picture ?
Jesus christ.
Come on the whole joshua surviving is bullshit its more credible he was absorbed by ifrit
The first two paragraphs where they just stop trying to kill clive because Joshua said "hey don't... he's muh bro.... surely there's a reason!" and they were like "ok"
But suddenly have no problem with Clive when Joshua does finally reunite with him so there was literally nothing stopping Joshua from going to save Clive
>so there was literally nothing stopping Joshua from going to save Clive
yeah nothing except Clive going apeshit like at phoenix gate.
In case you haven't noticed Joshua stays away from Clive until he's forced to meet him in the dominion
>yeah nothing except Clive going apeshit like at phoenix gate.
Ah yes just like that time he tries to kill joshua a second ti- oh wait that never happens you fucking retard
>he stays away
Because of bad writing, he even walks by his fucking unconscious body and stops Ultima from trying to get closer then succs in a part of ultima for no fucking reason, yet he can't reintroduce himself to clive for another 5 years, and clive just doesn't bother to mention he already knew about the secret order that nobody knew existed
Oh and btw, again, the fucking order DID NOT SAVE JOSHUA FROM DEATH, he survived "somehow" already before they even found him, they just found him in a coma and then healed him up afterwards
>Ah yes just like that time he tries to kill joshua a second ti- oh wait that never happens you fucking retard
and joshua 100% knew Clive wouldn't go crazy this whole time, right ? You're embarrassing
>muh bad writing
Joshua revealed himself *because* Clive was unconscious and had to do something to keep ultima away, albeit with incomplete knowledge. He did what he thought was best, ie getting Ultima away from Clive while expanding his knowledge and come up with a plan
He didn't so he wouldn't, there is literally no reason they couldn't have linked up earlier other than bad writing and forced drama
There was literally no reason to try and hide himself when he reveals himself anyway, he achieved nothing, it was bad writing
I just told you why they didn't link up, but you chose to ignore it because it's more convenient to be a disingenuous retard
yeah joshua had no reason to hide himself except you know, hiding his indentity from ultima's servants
No you regurgitated the pathetic excuse of bad writing for why they somehow can't meet even though there was literally no reason why they couldn't, and Joshua himself fucking says to clive after they do meet is that they learned practically NOTHING about Ultima so there was again NO FUCKING REASON stopping it, and Joshua could have easily free'd Clive from slavery and explained shit to him
There was no reason to even hide from Ultima because Ultima didn't fucking do shit
stop being disingenuous, retard
Stop being a stupid fucking retard excusing bad writing, there was fucking no reason for Clive to not got seek out Joshua either once he learned he was alive yet he spends 5 years not doing shit but growing the weakest excuse for a beard for anyone in FF.
stop repeating yourself, retard
maybe because Clive has more braincells than you do, maybe because he trusts his brother has good reasons to stay away, maybe because Joshua made it very clear Clive wouldn't find him, through his actions.
>bbbbbad writing
bad comprehension. If everything needs to be spelled out for you to understand shit, it's a you problem
>Clive
>braincells
pick one, he has no fucking clue what he's doing, he literally thinks Joshua is dead
Somehow eikons can sense any other eikons except for some reason where it doesn't work because [PLOT] I mean bad writing
It is contrived bullshit that makes no sense and is the worst writing in FF history, Joshua had every means to go and save Clive, the fucking undying listen to everything Joshua says to do, they are in service of him, nothing stopped him from saving him from slavery other than bad writing.
>Somehow eikons can sense any other eikons except for some reason where it doesn't work because [PLOT] I mean bad writing
>Somehow
Clive can sense Barnabas because he wants him to
Clive can sense Jill because they've spent so much time together their aether are attuned to each other.
I won't reply anymore, this is pointless
>because he wants him to
>because of a completely different reason
because bad writing
you're just repeating shit you already said, and I already told you why you're wrong. You can stop now
Nope, you aren't making any valid arguments, stop defending bad writing, there was no legitimate reason for Joshua not to save Clive from slavery.
Still defending bad writing, don't get me started on the dumb bitch that Anabella is who somehow has no fucking actual motive other than wanting to have power yet when her own child that was Phoenix "died" she didn't even care.
>he was away from Clive because the undying wanted him fucking dead for trying to kill him, retard.
Yet at a fucking wave of his hand the undying didn't kill him because Joshua said not to, so Joshua could have gone and free'd him all the same you stupid fucking retard
>Joshua could have gone and free'd him all the same you stupid fucking retard
"oh yeah, let's go and free my brother who was controlled by ultima and nearly killed me, what would go wrong lol"
>"oh yeah, let's go and free my brother who was controlled by ultima and nearly killed me, what would go wrong lol"
You mean like how when they finally did reunite and nothing happened regarding ultima?
You know what's even more fucking retarded? Ultima living as olivier for 11 years since he was a fucking baby, meaning he was getting his diapers changed and shit, what a fucking retard
and yet again you prove you haven't played the game. Olivier was akashic, meaning he turned akashic when he was 11, he would've stopped growing up whenever it happened. Just like Barnabas is 70 years old but stopped getting old when he was in his 40s
And you didn't read the Ultimania which reveals that Ultima already took over Olivier since he was a baby meaning that was Ultima the entire 11 years, Olivier never existed as a person unto himself, it was literally Ultima pretending to be this retard kid Olivier, not just when he turned 11 suddenly becoming Ultima
>What happened to leviathan? Jill nation crystal?
Even worse is that Ultima is not even from another planet, the fucking ultimania says he's just from another part of the planet valisthea is on.
FF16 is complete, DLC will only flesh out the world and characters. FF15 was missing chunks during the main game. Apples and oranges.
>FF16 is complete, DLC will only sell cut content from the main game
>source : my brown ass
Cry harder, Dreamboum chud.
>Dreamboum chud.
what ?
>No explanation for what happened to Joshua in the 13 years in game
>No explanation for Leviathan in game
>No explanation for Cid's backstory in game
>No explanation for Barnabas's backstory in game
>No explanation for Benedikta's backstory in game
>No explanation for Hugo's backstory in game
>No explanation for Anabella's backstory in game
>Shit just constantly happens for no reason with no buildup, occurs offscreen with no explanation why, gets resolved by deus ex machina or completely glossed over, plotholes galore, story gaps galore, no ending
>It's DLC is literally cut content to fill in gaps, unlike XV DLC which was them PUTTING IN extra scenarios into the base game in the last few months of dev specifically to frame the DLC but none of it being essential to know, unlike FF16 shit like LEVIATHAN ONE OF THE FUCKING EIKON'S ULTIMA NEEDS TO FULFILL HIS FUCKING PLAN OF CLIVE SUCKING UP ALL THE EIKONS
Holy fuck piss off
Nothing changes in the story by learning how Gladio got his scar, how Ignis went blind or what happened to Prompto after he got pushed off, those are literal definition of side stories that aren't required to know to understand Noctis's journey into becoming true king which is all fully told in the base game and fully wrapped up at the end, meanwhile all that stuff no explained in FF16 is crucial MAIN STORY shit that goes completely unexplained, and it has no fucking ending because the hack Maehiro took the pussy way out with an "ambigous ending" just to try and get people to talk about FF16 beyond launch, even though nobody actually cares and it just pissed everyone off over how dogshit the ending is, more people literally praise XV because of its great ending over how trash FFXVI ended.
>>No explanation for Leviathan in game
irrelevant to the story, it's a lost eikon and isn't even acknowledged as an element in the game's folklore
>>No explanation for Cid's backstory in game
he awakened as ramuh and became Waloed's lord commander until Otto's son was taken away and had enough
>>No explanation for Barnabas's backstory in game
he's a descendant of the children of dzemekys and circle of ultimalius zealot, fled valisthea with his mother and returned to conquer ash to help ultima with his goals
>>No explanation for Benedikta's backstory in game
Cid rescued her from a shitty situation when she was a slave and took her under his wing
>>No explanation for Hugo's backstory in game
Hugo used titan's power to his advantage to essentially gain power and control of the dhalemkian republic and its mothercrystal
You haven't played the game have you ?
>irrelevant to the story
It is LITERALLY the main fucking story of what Clive is doing and what Ultima needs to succeed, it being "lost" is because they shoddily wrote it out becuase its cut content except they forgot the entire plan of Ultima requires getting Leviathan because he requires all the Eikons
>Literally never explained in any cutscene or dialog exchange
>Nothing about how Cid worked for Barnabas for 17 fucking years is in the game
>Nothing about Benedikta being a maid is in the game
>Nothing about Hugo's men getting killed is how he activated as Titan the first time
>Nothing about Barnabas's mom ever explained in any cutscene or dialog
No, reading ATL is not game story, that is literally put in there because not even the fucking devs could keep track of anything happening, if it's not in story dialog, NPC dialog, in world book or in world interactive text or cutscene then it's not story, 90% of the shit in the ultimania is not even in the game or the fucking ATL either and is crucial info about every character
>No, reading ATL is not game story
>if it's not in story dialog, NPC dialog, in world book or in world interactive text or cutscene then it's not story
literally mental gymnastics
Based Christ allegory triumphing over Yoshida and Maehiro's blasphemous reddit pandering.
16 is actually fun to play unlike 15 or most of the FF games for that matter.
16 isn't fun to play, 15 is more fun to play because it has better control over animation and way more base combo variety
FF16 literally only has 1 4 hit attack string and 1 3 hit air attack string and thats it
A single fucking weapon on Noctis has more than that, let alone all of his weapons having 15x that
>16 isn't fun to play, 15 is more fun to play
Both games are garbage. Play a real action game before you talk.
15 has more in common with real action than the dogshit 16 tries to call action
16 doesn't even have directional inputs or pause attacks
>it's Bazzy
lol
lmao even
>It's Nathan the gay
lol
lmao
Even fucking DMC5 has elemental affinities and ff16 doesn't
Calm down, Bazzy. Take your meds and breathe.
Nathan shouldn't you be damage controlling the fact that cucklive has no directional inputs or pause attacks? Also the stagger shit is pointless since only boss and mid boss enemies even have a stagger bar, not regular grunt enemies, so what's the fucking point? it's literally filler
>Calm down, Bazzy. Take your meds and breathe.
just like my yoshitpiss. and you should know, I'm not barry. it was decided in The Discord that I'll handle low level trash like you, barry will never (you) you again
It's so funny when newfags pretend Bazzy doesn't exist.
>(It's so funny) when new(fag)s pretend Bazzy doesn't exist
JLMY
Retard.
JLMY
Between this post
and this post
Two new post ips have been added to the thread. Only two new posters between all those posts.
BECAUSE I'M ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE EDGE
Barry meltdown thread?
Yoshitpiss shills have no shame
I don't think i have ever seen a person so pathetically butthurt and obsessed about something. Barry needs help, it's been over a decade already
Even Forspoken is outselling FF16 in the UK
https://nintendoeverything.com/uk-software-sales-for-the-week-ending-september-2-2023/
>Forspoken 21st, was 18th the previous week
>FF16 22nd, was out of the top 40 the previous week
That 29% sale on FF16 couldn't even make it outsell Forspoken lol
>UK physical sales
So it sold 4 copies instead of 3?
>So it sold 4 copies instead of 3?
No see those are the worldwide numbers.
>FF16 not even in the top 30 in Japan weekly sales
LOL
https://www.gematsu.com/2023/09/famitsu-sales-8-28-23-9-3-23
>the 30th ranked game is BOTW suddenly reappearing and did 1365 units, meaning FF16 sold LESS than 1365 units last week
Just absolutely pathetic performance all round for FF16
He does this every single day. Since he has no job it's obvious he is on welfare.
>He does this every single day. Since he has no job it's obvious he is on welfare
barry needs no government cheese when you pay his rent free of charge
Flop Fantasy 16 lol
You know what XVI reminds me of? Pic related. It's one of those ruinously stupid ideas that anyone with taste could have told them was never going to work.
But they shit it out anyway, and a few desperate mindbroken corporate drones defend it. If you're reading this post and you DEFEND the abomination that is XVI, know that everyone is laughing at you.
>IP count still hasn't changed
This the best you got?
Are you really that surprised? A small handful of autists are the only ones who care about this game. Even at launch with the obvious Indian "comfy" shill-threads that always hit 500 replies there were barely more than 30-40 IPs.
No one cares.
This. These threads are usually a few dozen mindbroken XIV-trannies fighting one insane aboriginal autist about a game the rest of the world has pretty much forgotten about.
>It's one of those ruinously stupid ideas that anyone with taste could have told them was never going to work.
Those kinds of people don't work for Square.
its not as tone deaf as hyenas.
its more like how many jap devs aimed to get the call of duty audience a decade ago.
Funny cause that chink came at those times , criticise it and fell for the same shit KEK
You're all responding to a mentally ill abbo. Please point, laugh, ignore and move on. Do not respond xirs retarded bait.
>FF16 is like yakisoba with no toppings
lol Japs are dunking on that fag Yoshida
It's even funnier because that yakisoba meme is all because the FF14 anniversary festival they held a few weeks ago was selling yakisoba for 1000 yen and it had no toppings and was a tiny amount, just the plainest most nothing yakisoba ever, and people were all saying Yoshi-P owes them money over it
The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
>IP count still unchanged
Is your VPN working? Check your phones, Barry.
Remember when he spent 2 years propping up World of Warcraft and Flopspoken to "take down" the big bad YoshiP?
How'd that turn out again?
Adding my IP to the thread to mindbreak the autist.
nooooooooooooo it didn't change I'm certain of it!
this can't be happening. It did change. ...B.a.r.r.y... is crashing down on us like a tidal wave
AHHH!NOT THE EMUS!
Noooo stop increasing the IP count!!!!
forgot to turn on your VPN, brownling
yo chud this ip gimmick is over, keep it up little sister
The IP... it... increased... no.... masaka.... AIIEEEEEEE SAVE ME YOSHI-P SAMA
Adding my IP to the count.
Dead genre kek
>didn't change
love you lil sis
also
I should clarify: over means popular so keep doing it, sorry for the Ganker lingo little sister
>genre so dead even dq doesn't want to be a part of it anymore
the world is healing
Square-Enix's CEO is doubling down on huge budget games and blockchain as a response to XVI flopping. Clive's game will have unironically killed all of Square unless a major course correction happens soon.
Current Square Enix CEO is former Johnny's (talent agency)which is caught up in sex abuse scandal they are getting dropped left and right by their media partners. He knows fuck all about video games, idiots believing that he will be better than Matsuda who appointed him there in the first place are deluded.
>Got away with banging the talent for 50 years
>Dies after living a full life, getting away with everything in heaven
Fucking based
It was all male talent, though.
Doesn't matter. If anything making other men your bitch against their will is more alpha.
But he has Dame da ne guy name , also what the fuck is that about johnny talent sex scandal
> What killed it?
You can only make so many shitty games until you lose your customers. Square lost me after XII + XIII, not even sure if this is any good, but I haven't even bothered to check.
PS5 exclusive is what killed it
Because i think i just heard someone say "turn based"
His meltdowns are some of the most entertaining I've ever seen on this site.
Was that him posting 'media literacy' cope or someone else from their Discord?
Probably yeah, he was real angry at margrave-kun for being confused at the ending and the shitstorm it ensued in the thread.
Not everyone that dislikes a FF game that isn't XV is Barry, you know.
okay Barry
To be honest I assume 90% of these threads are bullshit because I genuinely don't believe that many people own a PS5. I'll probably play and even like 16 because I'm a massive Matsunofag, but I was never going to drop 6~700 bucks to play the game. There's for certain not a massive untapped market exclusively on PS5, so the sales are honestlyy predictable. Spiderman 2 sold a grand total of 6.5M copies on PS5, and FF16 is actually pretty far ahead considering its currently at what, 3-4M or so?
I think 90% of the posters in these kind of threads are retards who have almost blatantly never seriously engaged in the actual economics of games. It's just the console war gayry for a new generation.
Correct, however Barry is also correct.
Who exactly is the enemy in these threads and who should I be rallying behind?
as a senior member of Project Barry I say you decide for yourself. We fear no yoshichud
Should have been turn based. Should have involved 4 elemental crystals.
This is boring.. Hurry and get this thread near 400 so barry can start his fact checking spazzout.
Right on schedule
Get ready to be schooled on why Luminous (dead studio) is totally still alive and didn't die in a horrible ESG score related accident.
Luminous staff are in CBU2 still using Luminous Engine
https://cedec.cesa.or.jp/2023/session/detail/s642675c24ff1b
Not my problem you are ignoring SE literally saying they are doing AAA development and engine development when they said they were bringing the Luminous staff back under SE proper, and as of their CEDEC presentation of new Luminous stuff only a few weeks ago we see they are in CBU2, and SE literlaly a few weeks ago just doubled down on AAA development now, which aligns with the LP staff being in CBU2 specifically doing AAA development and engine development which is used for AAA games.
>Yoshida's mainline FF game tanked the companies' stock by 15% after failing to perform past the first week hype sales, and it's on record to become the most divisive entry in the series, alienating plenty of longtime series fans while failing to bring in new audiences with its Game of Thrones inspired story or DMC-like gameplay.
>Creative Business Unit 1 will be too busy for the foreseeable future with FF7R, KH4, and potentially FF9/10R.
>Creative Business Unit 4 is the gacha division and unlikely to take on the mantle for the company's flagship series.
>SE has now confirmed their volume of mid-sized games like Nier or Bravely will be reduced in the following years, but given no indication for what will CBU2 be doing in the meanwhile, which by the way now is in charge of the Luminous employees after Forspoken flopped.
ENTER
OUR LONG-AWAITED SAVIOR
OCTOPATH CREATOR
THE SERIES RESTORATOR
Yes it is very likely that Team Asano (formerly BD11) and FFXV staff (formerly BD2) are doing FF17 within CBU2 now.
>What killed it?
New IP here
I still find it pretty funny how XVI chuds spammed the board for nearly a year acting like XVI was this masterpiece that could never have failed cause MUH DREAM TEAM
After being forgotten outside this schizo board and failing to sell copies while also not being talked about as a potentiat GOTY nominee, all the XVI fags have left is to cry about muh barry while pretending to act like their game mindbroke people when they cant stop seething at these threads till they hit bump limit
Its unironically over. Yoshi p is an out of touch business man that got lucky with XIV and his cultists can only cope and deflect
EVERYTHING YOU SAY TO MEEEEE
The fact that Yoshitpiss even said he's not gonna do ff17 or ff18 but instead do ff14 until he dies should be proof enough that that ERP simulator with a cult is the only thing he has, but even that is dying
This thread again?
Holy shit get a job you welfare monkey.
Barry always wins.
Nope
Reading a datalog is not valid story telling, it was bad in FF13 and it's even worse here.
I think the people who go "Barry" to everything have become more annoying than the guy himself.
I would to see the Princess Bubblegum posting more 2bdesu
I think the people who spam ffxvi seethe threads multiple times a day for the past 3 months have become more annoying than those who call out "Barry".
You could just not open them if they bother you that much
Why do the people who say Barry annoy you, you could just not open the thread and read the post.
>ctrl f "yoshi"
>23 results
How did he mindbreak so many browns?
>visibly defeated yoshitpiss .jpg
who the fuck stays subbed in-between expansions
ERPfags? so not real players then
Boy am i looking forward to a whole new round of mental illnesses once Rebirth hits.
>post this image
>yoshit pissers lose their mind and monkey out until bump limit
the display of visible defeat is palpable, I can almost feel his sudoku inspiring shame
They uncontrollably seethe, it's what happens when a cult gets exposed to the wider world
>Abbo pants shitter loses his mind, samefags and monkeys out until bump limit.
Tabata's game sold more than any Nomura game has.
>normal Ganker thread
>actually talks about the game with the occasional 4chan or coomer thread
>literally every XVI for nearly a year
>AAAAIIIEEEEEE BARRY BARRY BARRY TENDIE PABLO BARRY PRINCESS BUBBLE GUM [INSERT NEW BOOGEYMAN] AAAIIIEEEEE STOP DISLIKING THE GAME YOUVE NEVER PLAYED IT
Why?
>off topic, coomer, furfag, rage bait, e-boi, pol threads on Ganker
>Will remain longer than 80% than any other video game related thread on Ganker.
>literally any video game related thread on Ganker
>AAAAIIIEEEEEE BBC YOU JUST KNOW TODD TODD PHIL JIMBO KOJIMBO TRANNIES "SHE" LOOKS LIKE "SHE" FUCKS HUMAN MEN "HER" "SHE" GOLEM BEARS SEX JETPACK SEX GIWTWM *SNIFF* CUTE & FUNNY NGL NOT GAY ENOUGH BRO HAIRY MARE FUCK DOLPHIN KEK
Fixed that for you.
>212 posts in 1.30m
Barry runs this territory, he's ric flair he's stone cold he's the king of Ganker
I here I thought we'd ALMOST go an hour without a FF16/FF producer thread and that Barry died or something.
But apparently there must always be a fucking 16 thread on Ganker at all hours. It's not even a good game, I don't get how it causes this much seethe that it needs an hourly/daily thread.
The Yoshi-P cult are just incredibly insecure over losing to FF15.
Barry? The king of Ganker
Yoshit chuds? Peasants that only exist for Barry to rule and BTFO
Barry, FF16 sucks. Why are you seething about it so damn much that you'd post about it non-stop every day for months on end? It makes zero sense short of mental illness.
>Everyone is Barry
like I said, the king of Ganker that exists to BTFO yoshit chuds and make them forever seethe
>Everyone is Barry
true I'm barricus
Barry, there's a clear difference between the rest of us who just shit on FF16, and the way you post. You don't know how to change your style of posting at all, it outs you.
I've never been called Barry once.
>I've never been called Barry once.
you must not be worthy. sad!
He is growing too powerful... he is fuelled by the seethe he causes...
>thinking giga chad .jpg
>anons open up
>i brought a subscription to nord vpn and room temp sugar cane juice
>we can talk to myself and make yoshitpiss seethe with his mind
>Numbers of posts keeps increasing
>Number of ips stays the same
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuooooooohhhhhh I'm yoshichuding!!!
>why does this single player story game exclusive to one platform not keep selling millions every month
idk retard
FF15 sold more on PS4 alone than FF16 did on PS5, so that isn't an excuse, in fact
FF13 sold more on PS3 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF12 sold more on PS2 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF10 sold more on PS2 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF9 sold more on PS1 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF8 sold more on PS1 alone than FF16 did on PS5
FF7 sold more on PS1 alone than FF16 did on PS5
and pikmin 4 don't forget my bro pikmin
I've never seen a game mindbreak someone this hard on Ganker.
What exactly about this game drove them over the edge?
Well the Yoshi-P shills are butthurt that it flopped and everyone is just laughing at them damage controlling the flop.
The person making these threads aren't a shill (unless it's some reverse psychology shit). They've been making these threads every single day for several months.
What exactly about this game mindbroke them so hard?
People are laughing at the game flopping because the shills spent years shilling this garbage and ruining FF threads, it's only natural that everyone laughs at the FF16 shills at every opportunity since we know it is the lowest selling AAA FF in history and was complete trash.
But the person making these threads has done so daily. Every single day. For months.
So what exactly about this game mindbroke them so hard that would cause them to do that?
>person
First assumption there and nothing to back it up, countless people are laughing at how poorly FF16 is doing because of how annoying the FF16 shills were to begin with.
Nevermind, looks like someone is actually answering here:
He did the same for Hi-fi Rush, except weekly, because people were saying it was better than his beloved Luminous Productions game.
NPD shows Forspoken outsold it though.
Also Forspoken is ahead of FF16 in the UK even though FF16 has a 29% sale, so that means Forspoken is more desired than FF16
Search up "Barry", "I stumbled across it", and "wowg".
Apparently a twitter account called HKMORON will also bring info up the individual making these.
link me up senpai
it's a ps5 exclusive
Xir lost xirs mind a long time ago, right around when VSXIII got turned into XV, has never been the same ever since.
There are still Nintendo cult worshippers angry, to this day that Sony took FFVII away from them and put it on the Playstation1 instead of it being on the N64. This seething will last for years.
It's one or two pajeets trying to redeem the booism scam.
He's mad because the FF15 Negress DLC flopped so hard they killed Luminous Productions and blames Yoshida because they officially killed it on his bday.
Also there is something about a little rhythm game about having sex with a cat winning and he took offense to that.
XV was made by Square Enix not Luminous Productions you retard, Luminous Productions didnt' even exist as an entity until April 2018, which was an entire month after FFXV even released on PC. FFXV was made by Square Enix Business Division 2 who then were rebranded as their own wholly owned SE subsidiary called Luminous Productions in April 2018, physically they were still at the same office space as they were as Business Division 2 internally within SE, then in 2023 SE remerged them on paper them back into SE proper as Creative Business Unit 2
The purpose of them even doing Luminous Productions that way was to specifically do new AAA IP, the reason they brought the staff back as SE proper and categorized as Creative Business Unit 2 is because they said they will be doing AAA development of EXISTING SE IP in addition to continuing the Engine Development they had been doing since they were Business Division 2
That chud cat game never once ranked on NPD while Forpsoken ranked on the YTD for 5 months, even longer than Octopath 2 ranked meaning Forspoken made more money than Octopath 2 too.
>XV was made by Square Enix not Luminous Productions you retard
Correct because they don't exist anymore.
Since you're a fucking idiot that is a trailer for Episode Ardyn which released in March 2019, almost a year AFTER BD2 had become Luminous Productions you stupid fucking idiot, the staff are still at SE and are just CBU2 now
kek they got crossed out of flopspoken.
Because they are Square Enix proper again, you idiot
IF IM BEING CALLED BARRY
I AM BARRY
NO I AM BARRY
>ffxvi lost
lmao. Barrychud is so delusional. FF16 sold for over 200 million, that's a very successful game by that measure alone. It's also better received critically than its predecessor
>chud macro
>do not open
>b-but muh journo reviews
People that SE paid to shill FF16 have said FF15 is better
>e-everyone likes ffxv
lmao. chudbarry lost.
>muh journo reviews
OK
>Bazzy is the only person who doesn't like FFXVI
Why are you mentally ill?
>200 million
>XVI fag thinks the 70 dollars all goes to square
again XVI attracts low iq retards. Just what yoshit wanted for his audience
>3 million copies sold at $70 each is not 210 million
chudbarry is so low iq that xhe can't understand revenue. That's what sniffing gasoline and watching chud porn does to an individual. lol
The irony of thinking that SE gets a full $70 profit from every copy sold and calling someone low IQ is comical. Are you a pajeet shill by any chance?
chudbarries really are idiots. Can't differentiate between revenue and profit, except for the last gaslighter. SE said ff16 is a success, just did not reach their UPPER SALES PROJECTION which are often too high. It flopping will erase any substancial dlc from being made, which it will have, unlike ffxv. lol
>XVI
>success
reminder that in one of its biggest regions it fell out of famitsu charts meaning its not even selling one thousand copies a week in japan
>using a chinky article reader channel using badly-sourced news to prove a point
lmao. Barrychud keeps sinking so low just to score.
>3 millions
*2
>210 millions
*150 at best, which is divided among Sony, resellers and Square.
>XVI chuds so fucking retarded they think SE gets 100% of the revenue and ignores the 30% that goes to retailers/distribution/Sony
At absolute fucking maximum FF16 made $147m, according to SE's own financial report it caused an operating income LOSS ie FF16 has not profited yet, meaning FF16 cost over $147m and has made $0 in profit
FF16 was a colossal failure
Nevermind that but the fact that SQUARE ENIX already put FF16 on sale this quick is because they are desperately trying to reignite sales momentum for the remaining stock so they can get retailers to order more stock so that FF16 can even begin to profit, which it has not even started to do so yet after 3 months because the launch 3m has not even all sold to consumers, and FF16 cannot begin to profit until ADDITIONAL shipment get sent out, and even then the legs of FF16 are so fucking abysmal that it would barely be in the few hundreds of thousands worth of additional shipment at best
>At absolute fucking maximum FF16 made $147m, according to SE's own financial report it caused an operating income LOSS ie FF16 has not profited yet, meaning FF16 cost over $147m and has made $0 in profit
you can't read a financial report, or you'd know FF16 is profitable since the week after its launch week
This is pure copium.
This is literally my job
Boss makes a dollar
I make a dime
And that's why I shit
On company time
>or you'd know FF16 is profitable since the week after its launch week
Literally nowhere does it say this you fucking idiot
FF16s 3 million shipped and digital sales are counted as "sales" only to square enix, retailers buy the shipment which is what SE gets money from for all physical units, they do not get money when a consumer buys a physical game because they already got the money for that physical unit
They only get money when a consumer buys a digital version of the game
Since we know it was 3 million shipped + digital sales and in best case scenario it was 50:50 split, that means it sold 1.5m digitally in its first week and shipped 1.5m physically, so SE gets the money for those
HOWEVER, the shipment is not 1.5m sold to consumers, of that 1.5m at best only around 1m actually sold to consumers, meaning that despite SE getting money for the 3m, the actual to consumer sales is around 2.5m
SE said that all costs of FF16 were counted in Q1 FY 2024, and we know that FF16 revenue was not enough to offset that as the OI had a huge dip, meaning that FF16 did not recoup its costs from the revenue from the 3m, which at best would be $147m beause of 30% cut going to retailers/distro/Sony
The report says additional sales will be profit, what this means is only additional SHIPMENT and digital sales onward over the 3m is only what would be counted as profit
FF16 sold again to consumers 2.5m at best, its physical sales have barely been 300k in the last 3 months so it has not even sold out its launch shipment, and its digital sales are abysmal in its biggest regions, not even in top 20 in the EU and is below Remnant 2 which did 1m, 800k on Steam so less than 200k on PS5
So FF16 has barely done 90k in Japan since week 2 physically, it's 2nd biggest region, did barely 100k in the US since week 2, barely 90k in the EU since week 2, dead everywhere else, and below 100k digitally in its biggest region the US, dead in EU and dead in Japan
Still $0 profit
you can write any shit you want. Facts remain that FF16 is profitable since the start of this quarter
No it hasn't you fucking idiot, it says that FF16 can only begin to profit in this quarter since it can only get additional sales (shipment or digital) from July onward, not that it HAS started to profit yet, because it has not even actually sold 3 million to consumers yet so it cannot even profit yet.
And even if it has started to profit it would only be from whatever it has done digitally in the last 2 months which is fucking ABYSMAL, literally barely 200k globally, that is fucking dogshit in terms of profit and not even remotely worth the investment it took to make FF16 just for that much at its highest possible price point, and it's already been put on sale at that
All sales from july 1st onwards are profits, it doesn't matter what math or cope you're trying to come up with. Profits for the game started on july 1st.
No they are not you retard, all additional SHIPMENT and digital sales beyond the 3m is what would be profit, it has had 0 shipment and has barely even sold 200k digitally in 2 months which is fucking nothing
It still has not even sold beyond 3m to consumers
>it has had 0 shipment
you literally don't know that
>It still has not even sold beyond 3m to consumers
it did in its first week
We do because if it had an additional amount sent out SE would have claimed so, like with FF7R doing 5m which was when they sent out additional units, or when XV hit 6m because they sent out an additional 1m of units
SE would announce FF16s additional units if it had anything
>It did
not, it shipped 1.5m and sold 1.5m digitally in best case scenario, it sold only around 2.5m to consumers at best, since week 2 to now it has sold only at best 250k physically and barely 200k digitally
>pulling numbers out of my ass is proof
Square isn't obligated to announce extra shipments, they almost never do, unless they need all the good press they can get to not scare investors off, like this was the case with the xv project, which was a huge unsalvageable money sink
So you're just coping
16 needs all the good press it can get which is why they did that damage control PR with IGN despite it going against the thing in the financial report 2 weeks later which was FF16 tanking SE
With XV they literally said it exceeded expectations, with Ff16 they said it did below their high expectations
>they did that damage control PR with IGN despite it going against the thing in the financial report 2 weeks later which was FF16 tanking SE
that's your headcanon
>Ff16 they said it did below their high expectations
meaning it was sitting somewhere beetween mid and high range of sales projections. low range = not profitable, mid range = profitable, high range = very profitable
>that's your headcanon
No that's literally reality
>meaning it was sitting somewhere beetween mid and high range of sales projections
No, meaning that despite fucking doing $147m it did not even come anywhere near their high end so it is a fucking failure and has no fucking profited, they did not say it hit mid range you lying fuck, they said it did not hit the high end, and there is no such thing as mid range anyway, this is your headcanon and cope
It fucking flopped
If it's not even in the high end despite making $147m then that is fucking trash and a flop
The Pixel Remasters also have sold 3M while costing like 5% of what XVI did and the bundle being sold at a price point of at least 75$. Chances are it's responsible in a larger way for Q1 profits than 16.
the pixels remasters were sold separately and released over 2 years ago, and each game costs like 10-15 dollars
The pixel remaster budget were split over the 6 games, and collectively they sold 3 million as SE counts them as one thing, they also sold them as bundles and had even more expensive physical bundles too, since it had an astronomically lower budget it means the % of its revenue that it was made was bigger amount of profit than FF16 has made
>repackaging old ROMs of NES/SNES Final Fantasy made wayyy more money than Yoshi P’s high budget new FF that was supposed to define generations
HAHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAY
Now yoshitpiss its trying to put those games inside the MMO i cant think other thing more cucked than that
nta, but they actually put in more effort than just throw on some ROMs.
They actually rebuilt the games from the ground up in Unity.
>they did not say it hit mid range you lying fuck, they said it did not hit the high end
not hitting high end means it's somewhere between middle and high you numbskull, or they would've said it didn't meet expectations period
There is no middle you fuck, only high or low, it didn't hit high so it was low, they literally didn't say it met "mid" expectations
Again the fact that it made $147 and it hasn't even hit its HIGH END means it fucking flopped, meaning that it cost more than $147 to make and that they expected it to make more than $147m yet it has not
I'm so fucking done lol, keep pulling numbers out of your ass
Keep coping over the fact FF16 has made no profit and SE said it didn't meet high end of sales despite it making fucking $147m, meaning a number above $147m is what is high end
>le 147 gorillion
Anon is right, you're inventing numbers and make them your headcanon. Seek help.
they conjure fake numbers all day everyday
Retard
$70 x 3 million is $210m
30% of that goes to retailers, distrobution, Sony, so 30% off of $210m is $147
At fucking best FF16 made $147m
If you think FF16 made more than $147m then that means that number higher than that is too low to hit SE's high end expectation that they expected it to hit, any lower than that and you are implying FF16 shipped+digitally sold even less than 3m
Oh what's this? It seems you've poured over the data. It's true the snoyim were born to serve. I appreciate your toil snoy, now get back to work
why 3M
3m is the number of the shipment combined with the amount of digital sales they had in week 1, the physical shipment is not sales to consumers its sales to retailers, consumers then buy physically from retailers
>that gif
FF16 didn't even make $150m yet, it hasn't even fucking profited and it cost over $185m, it was a complete fucking flop and Japanese analysts say it lost SE money
>FF16 didn't even make $150m yet
no source
>it hasn't even fucking profited and it cost over $185m
no source + sony's paycheck highly likely over $100 million
$70 x 3 million is 210m
30% off 210m means $147m, meaning FF16 at best only made $147m
All of FF16 costs were counted in Q1 FY 2024 which had a huge dip in Operating Income, meaning the entire costs of FF16 did not incur any profit whatsoever from whatever revenue it made, which again was $147m at best, meaning FF16 cost more than $147m and has yet to profit
Sony paid even more for Forspoken than FF16 you tard, they have 2 years of console exclusivity for Forspoken vs only 6 months for FF16
>All of FF16 costs were counted in Q1 FY 2024 which had a huge dip in Operating Income
correct, as were development costs of many other projects, it's called amortization, hence the huge dip in operating income.
Translation : FF XVI was profitable enough to take the hit for this quarter, and development costs for other projects, announced or not, can be amortized to lighten future quarters hits, should they happen
Nope, FF16 costs were all counted in Q1 which is what caused the dip, it did not profit despite its revenue of $147m at best
>FF16 costs were all counted in Q1
that's literally what I just said, FF16 profitable enough to pay of its entire development + partly pay fo other projects development costs.
the dip wasn't caused by this, but by abysmal mobile revenue performance
Its really cheap putting a crappy cosplay sword at london tower with guards?
It was not profitable at all, it has not profited anything, all its 3m worth of sales did not even offset its costs into profitability
>they paid off all of FF16's development debt by Q1 which is only a week after the game released, instead of it being done via monthly payments which only begins after the product has launched and it has generated income, please believe me
That has to be the worst deal I've ever heard of. Let me guess, you don't have any proof either and you're simply talking out of your ass?
All sales to pay posting a sword in london tower
That is literally what happened you retard, they stated it that they organised their books so that is how it was set up.
Let me know once you've got the proof for that claim, champ.
They big scared
The fact that SE literally said so, the fact that every fucking analyst also said so, the fact that SE investors analysts all said so.
chudybarry where is your source. Talking out of their asses seems to be a big characteristic of every barry chud
XVIchud try learning to read the reports.
I hope that ESG money was worth it. How many companies need to fucking die before people stop eating that poison garden gnome dosh?
FFXVI had negative ESG score though.
>gays
They tried to appease both sides and managed to piss both of them off. It's like nobody is bothering to watch America implode on itself.
So looking it up, apparently this Barry is some Aussie who's very into chud porn, and really hates this FF producer for some reason?
people keep saying but where's the proof?
the chud thing is fake. Some people on wowg (before jannies cleaned up the xivg invaders) had some people call yoshi p by yoshit piss like barry because xivg fags liked invading the wowg threads
oneday some guy links chud porn saying “yoshit piss” and everyone thinks its barry
barry is an autist who loves XV and anything related to it like FLOPspoken. He has no reason to be in wowg and i havent seen any evidence of him shilling flopspoken or XV there
if you call this out tho, the xivg fag will just call you barry because hes a newfag that likely came to this board because asmongold was shilling xiv at the time and brought many people to this site by constantly mentioning wowg on stream
thats the story. There are some autists who have known barry since 2015 here but many of the people shouting barry are literally newfag asmongold fags who came here and started repeating phrases to fit in
Barry, you can't post in the exact same style when you're going to samefag yourself.
you can immediately prove yourself to not be barry by saying FLOPspoken cause barry refuses to call that game a flop
Pretty obvious if you were not a newfag
This is how you're attempting to deflect from getting caught, Barry?
You really think this works?
It's just chud porn. Stop pissing yourself just because you were accidentally caught liking it. The only reason people point it out is because you lose your shit about it.
>ip count didn't go up
I was literally responding to a post responding to my post. That would be expected behavior, yes.
Anon, how do you think the unique counter works?
>ip still doesn't increase
im just laughing how you are so obsessed over calling me barry while having chud shit still in your head
Uh huh. Okay Barry.
yea it must not be true because I've asked these guys for proof multiple times and they won't show me a anything
you gotta know this. People use the barry scapegoat but there are multiple schizos in this thread that are here everytime who have not been named yet
Barry is just a famous one cause he has an obvious copypasted posting style thats been doing it for months but many of the people here are schizos at the same level as barry. Oneday they will be known as their own type of schizo
honestly his hater seem more crazy then him
yes. Im not gonna say its him 100% but a retard posted the “stumbled upon it” pic on twitter replying to barrys tweet
The retard was named HKmoron and his twitter shows hes a XIV zoomer who defends the series to death (despite being a literal toddler when the series fucking died)
He is likely just as insane as barry while also likely being a newfag zoomzoom
That retarded posting style gets caught in the IP bans barry. You're not fooling anyone. Fuckoff back to /gif/ brownie
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/629844857/#q629853385
Barry had a shit ton of his posts deleted yesterday in a DLC thread.
All claiming to "totally be not Barry" despite posting exactly the same.
Correct. He's actually an immigrant and not born Australian.
he was caught last year in wowg linking a bunch of chud porn because he "stumbled across it", thinking it looked similar to the Yoshi producer referenced in these threads
For some mentally ill reason, he thought showing his chud porn would be an "own". It's weird.
>Correct. He's actually an immigrant and not born Australian.
(he was caught last year in wowg linking a bunch of chud porn) because he "stumbled across it", thinking it looked similar to the Yoshi producer referenced in these threads
For some (mentally ill) reason, he thought showing his (chud) porn would be an "own". It's (weird).
just like my yoshitpiss
still waiting for that proof
The funny thing is, HKmoron who fucking hates Barry is a 21 year old zoomer as stated on his twitter
This man literally was still a toddler when the FF brand was collapsing and is a newfag to this site
>brings up his twitter bully out of nowhere
kek hkmoran (me?) won.
There is no proof that was barry who said that, there is proof that it is you hkmoron who keeps posting that and exposed yourself on twitter as some zoomer who wasn't even alive 22 years ago
Yep, Barry linking the chud porn is one of the funnier things to emerge from this several year sperging out
He used to just rage at whoever would post the image, thinking it was that HKMORON twitter account following him onto Ganker. Within the past few weeks, Barry changed up to samefagging several posts saying "where's the proof" in the exact same style every time.
>whole board for /lgbt/ that would love his discovery
>stumbles into wowg instead
>I stumbled across it
Lmao
I still go back and read that archive every once in a while. Fun times.
Awwe I stumbled back to this thread too late for the Barry melty
I'm the original author of this webm. Say something nice to me.
supremacy achieved
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>immediately goes into defense mode over the chud pic
heh. the little autistic brown gay cant help himself
>i stumbled across it
OHNONONONOOO BARRYBROOOOSSS AIIIEEE OUR RESPONSE?!
Do you have proof it was barry?
>this defensive over "not barry"s chud incident
What kind of aggressive form of retardation is this? Fucking K E K
link us to some proof then
Barry couldn't figure out how to handle his chud thing getting outed.
He used to just rage about a tweeter named HKMORON about it (and it looks like he's doing some of that in here in addition), but his latest thing is being "totally-not-barry" trying to white knight Barry's honor.
Yep. Barry's doing the "several device samefagging" 1 min thing again.
>ip still hasn't increased
Correct. That's how it works.
ESL?
>Correct. That's how it works.
(ESL)(?)
JLMY
Ah. ESL.
That explains the confusion.
JLMY
What's Barry's race though? Is he poojet or middle eastern? Given he's on welfare I assume he's an abbo but he's too intelligent to be one.
I wonder what his favorite brand of ice cream is
I have pic of him
Nobody really gives a fuck about FF anymore
Nowadays the two major non-Nintendo jap IPs are Monster Hunter and Souls games.
In a week or so we are gonna see MH6 announced and no one will even mention FF16 anymore
>In a week or so we are gonna see MH6 announced and no one will even mention FF16 anymore
I think Barry actually has to actually die IRL for that to actually happen. He's incapable of stopping, he's obsessed for some reason (I'm not aware of the lore on why that is, just that apparently it's been going on for years)
I wonder where barrys strong will and unwavering resolve comes from?
>LEVENGE *Soken music starts*
Mental illness most likely. Ganker gets a lot of them.
Yesterday had an anon sperg out over disagreeing over opinions on character clothing options in some RPG thread, and went off the rest of the thread on everyone disagreeing with his opinion. Character clothing.
WOW Barry sure is meticulous I wonder where that comes from?
The mental illness just discussed.
hmm suHispaniciously similar to my yoshitpiss
Could you explain what you mean with this sentence? This doesn't make any sense in English. Might be a translation mistake.
It's done by an app that detects character traits unique to yoship and isolates them. it's just like my yoshitpiss
This one wasn't translated correctly either. I'm sorry, I don't know how to help you out here anon.
you see square gave me software to help out barry, it's a counter chud job, doesn't pay very well but I enjoy the work
The sentence structure here is sound, but it makes no sense in context.
Sorry anon, I'm going to go ahead and move on since we can't get that cleared up.
>The sentence structure here is sound, but (it makes no sense) in context.
Sorry anon, I'm going to go ahead and move on since we can't get that cleared up.
just like my yoshitpiss
see? The software identified the yoshit indicator and isolated it, isn't that rad
They're ESL. They're trying to make a joke of some kind I think, but it doesn't really make sense when you're an English speaker.
People typically just skip over those posts.
>ip count didn't go up
I had a hunch. Didn't want to be a dick in case they were actually genuine.
no bro you were very cordial and I appreciate it, I'm just trying to earn a living
I'm free to answer any questions you may have about the software, ask away
If FF16 already made money Yoshida doesn't need to sweat about his 18 months sales plan
I really wish we had IDs so the schizos like HKmoron cant just call everyone who disagrees with him barry and would need to actually defend his pathetic arguments
We already know he uses VPNs and phoneposts.
kek even if we had account names you would still be melting down and schizo posting about how that account is 100% barrys alt that he went back in time to make for this very thread
you are this schizophrenic
Thats to be expected during a content drought like this. Feels like years since anything worthwhile came out.
>barry losing his shit over hkmoron stumbling across him stumbling across chud porn
barry lost
hkmoron won
dreamboun lol'd
sbk99 cummed a little
you go girl
correct that record little sister
Barry won again.
Dreamboum is crying on twitter again and getting shat on in the QRTs again.
Sometimes Im glad these threads exist to expose how schizophrenic the yoshi p/XVI and XIV communities are and how fucking bad they are
reminder, barry mindbroke them so hard that they started obsessing over him in wowg and it got so bad for nearly a year that a janny had to come in and stay in the threads 24/7 for a month banning every xiv schizo. It got so bad that jannies banished them to mmog (which ended up dying cause they can only scream barry in their asylum threads before they wanted to blow their brains out)
barry + yoshichuds are a symbiotic relationship that is necessary for kino, both must be maintained
XIV is a bad version of WoW
XVI is a bad version of DMC
couple more years for a bad version of CoD
DIRGE OF CERBERUS REMAKE WITH JACK VALENTINE
>he's trying to go back to his other shitposting style after being mocked for stumbling across chud porn
AIIEEEEE SAVE ME VPN-SAMA!!!
KEK
Do you have proof it was him or are you going to keep avoiding being asked for proof, little SEAmonkey zoomzoom?
they got nothing
>barry still sperging about proof
Lmao if you weren't so defensive about it, it would have probably passed by now. How you keep fucking up this bad on an anonymous board with countless VPNs at your disposal is a true art form.
So you have no proof? I just want you to post proof, the fact that you keep regurgitating about it is kinda weird for something you have no proof over, could it be... that you are just regurgitating a lie to seethe over your boogeyman because you don't actually have anything on them?
>still hasn't posted proof that it wasn't barry
>still defensive on barry's behalf
LMAO GAAAYYY
Uh retardbro the burden of proof is on you
don't forget brown
Isn't he Aussie?
He's a paki/jeet immigrant. They get like $800 neetbux and a house for being trans and brown.
finally a snoyim with honor emerges. Thank you for linking your proof for the thread. I didn't open the image but I appreciate your toil all the same, snoy
Forspoken won, it has more memes than FF16
cope
post some proof instead of the chud avatargay image next time
>XIV schizos were so obsessed with barry that they had to make their own /vg/ generals to banish them in
>they still think they are normal while barry is the only insane one
>flops a 7.6 on your store
>cancel dlc
>try again but blacked
>die
Luminous was the true final fantasy all along
If it flopped...why are they making expansions for it...? Not just one due to some sort of legal obligation but...two?
DLC, not expansions.
>semantics and cope
Can I get an answer from someone who doesnt communicate exclusively by posting pictures of yoshida looking sad?
It is cut content being sold back, not anything made due to fan reception
Source?
because it flopped only in Ganker's collective mind. There's no legal obligation to even make one in the first place since it wasn't guaranteed to happen nor sold to people prior to the game's launch
cut content DLC being sold back are not expansions
>nier, an insanely niche series is now much bigger than Final Fantasy
how did this happen?
2butt
Ironically the moment Yoko Taro asked fans to send him 2B porn is the moment Nier gained an insane amount of momentum in the gaming sphere
funny thing is
I dont know if theres even a single piece of XVI porn. There were waves of 7R porn to the point where people made carriers out of it
Yoshi p made a game cared by so little that theres zero porn out of it
I looked it up and 90% of FF16 "porn" is literally AI slop by like 2 people, so not even real porn.
keek
It has but its cringe the only kinky shit is benedicta being raped by a fire pitbull and you have it ingame
>I dont know if theres even a single piece of XVI porn
can't extract models from ps5 games, unless they're unreal slop
Good writing. Automata barely sold 1M during its first month, but word of mouth about it legged the game throughout the years.
XVI is the opposite case, a lot of people bought it during the opening week and then were massively disappointed by the narrative, in a game that is 2/3rd cutscenes.
The music in Nier is also astronomical god tier, while 16 has the worst OST in the franchise with only like 1 good track which is only good because it had a composer who also worked on FFXV arrange it (find the flame)
By offering a high quality gaming experience that doesn't try to cheat you like Final Fantasy where they sell trash and think the brand power will make up for it being bad?
Anyone going to mess around with Sakaguchi's game once the PC port is fully out, and not just a playtest on Steam?
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/fantasian-playtest-appears-on-steam-supporting-pc-port/
Nope gonna watch a stream the gane feels like ff7 with a nier mc
>Nope gonna watch a stream the gane feels like ff7 with a nier mc
That sounds like kino honestly.
is it a real game or some gacha gayry
>462/69
Alright lads my shift is over, all counter chud gimmicks related to my id are to cease immediately. Good work and I'll see you in The Discord for debriefing. Hail Barry
(Pixel Remasters)
Since they already got a base engine down in Unity that they used to create the Pixel Remasters, I'd love if they made a throwback-style new game with that engine. Would be a shame to not utilize it again, and people are loved the classic games might enjoy a new one in that style.
Hasn’t been released on Xbox or PC yet. Don’t see the issue. These threads as are sad. If you think the game is so bad why do you keep making these attention threads. I literally went and got a copy on sale the other day.
>dead studio
dead studio
>dead studio
dead studio
The BD2/LP staff are in CBU2 now so the team is still 1 single AAA team still working on AAA development and still doing engine development on Luminous
https://cedec.cesa.or.jp/2023/session/detail/s642675c24ff1b
By your logic BD5 is a dead studio
Mental illness: the thread.
Both FFXV and XVI are bad games.
How the fuck do XVI fags defend the fact that the pixel remastered has made significantly more money than XVI?
yoshiters will defend their slop king to the end of the universe
>still talking to himself
Dead studio + 5ch hates you lol
>even Japan knows who Bazzy
God damn.
>XVI cultists falling for fake screenshots for posts that dont exist
HKmoron where's the proof that it was him?
5ch is shitting on FF16
>Who will take responsibility for the failure of FF16? lol
>Who is the war criminal?
>Isn't it Yoshida-san, the producer?
>A company that seems to be able to get by just by paying lip service
>Whoever's in charge
>Isn't it the person who produced it after all?
>A director who doesn't even get talked about
>It's a big failure when you're expecting a deficit of about 10 billion yen, because off-game games are usually made so that they can break even on the first try.
>The person who created the scenario and the person who gave the green light to the scenario.
https://kizuna.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1693894111
How does he have that kind of time to obsessively post on 5ch, Ganker, and twitter the sheer volume that he does?
Does he get government assistance money or something?
They call him bu-chan and make fun of his autistic 15 defending. 16-kun is hikasen
hikasen is an abbreviation of warrior of light which is what FF14 shills are called, so japan calls FF16 and FF14 shills hikasen
kek give me more I'm saving them all 🙂
5ch is shitting on FF16 so hard for being so dark and having worse graphics than FF15 and forspoken
Look at you go, that might be the fastest reply I have ever received. So eager to serve I am truly impressed. How would you feel about going into the snoyim hall of fame?
Look at you cope
Even 5ch is saying Tabata is better than yoshitpiss
even hackbata was more original than yoshi-piss, at least he ripped off from other bad final fantasy
You spoil me snoyim. How would you feel about coming to work for me in a more intimate fashion?
Says the snoyim shilling FF16
Really snoy I am amazed by your commitment to servitude. Here, you deserve something extra for your service
You're the snoy damage controlling ff16 here
prove it. link me your proof
The only way to hide shit FFXVI graphics is to set brightness to 0.
>5ch posting sets him off as hard as hkmoron posting
that chud loving retard is so predictable.
5ch is shitting on FF16 and saying forspoken is better
You triggered the chud stumbler
>HFR won an award at CEDEC
>Forspoken didn't win anything
No wonder Bazza is still seething at Hi-Fi.
It won one for sound because its a rhythm game you retard
Why didn't Forspoken win any? It was a technical marvel, no?
It looks better in the latest build
Cope
Slopsloppen lol
Why did FF16 flop so hard
Because there was no category for RT implementation or anything you tard
Sakurai won 3 of the 5 awards, TOTK won 1 and HFR only got the sound one because its a rhythm game that did something new with its sound implementation
Now there's an idea for LumiPro, do something new and exciting
>be tango
>get bonus dlc
>be luminous
>die
Kek didn't need cedec to tell me HFR won.
>tango CEO gets outed from tango a week after HFR releases
>LumiPro staff work on FF16 right after Forspoken releases
>Get assigned as SE CBU2 on AAA dev and still using Luminous since May
>HFR never charts on NPD while Forspoken did for 5 months straight on YTD list
OH NO NO NO
>[Sad news] Yahoo! Comment: ``FF16 is the most boring game in FF history'' ``I don't need DLC! Create FF17''
>gan********
>FF16 was the most boring game in FF history.
They didn't need any DLC, so create FF17. please!
>For your next work, please stop playing the "Wow, this is an amazing video!!" game! Please make a proper "Roll Playing Game"!
>rps********
>If you mean that ``FF16's evaluation will be based on DLC in the future,'' then the current FF16 is an unfinished product at full price (and nearly 10,000 yen including tax). ) I can only say that it's a problem product sold by
>njm********
>Return to the basics? I feel like FF16 has become a completely different game. So I tried the trial version and thought it was different, so I didn't buy it. Since FF9 was available for free, I've been playing it and I'm satisfied.
I'll be honest, I didn't think this thread would hit bump limit. FFXVI was shit.
>he's bringing out the dead studio defense pasta
Flopsloppen lol
Are CBU2 now, meanwhile BD5 is a dead studio
>CBU2 now
Another case of Barry being completely off the mark again.
That was before we knew they would even put a AAA team in CBU2, since they put them in CBU2 of course we know that CBU2 now has a AAA team in them which is them, but keep coping since it was you who was saying LP staff had to answer to yoshitpiss now, when in reality they are CBU2 now
>but keep coping since it was you who was saying LP staff had to answer to yoshitpiss now
you were the one in that image saying they joined CBU3 lmao, not me
You were the one in those threads saying LP would have to answer to CBU3 but keep coping, that was before we knew they would even be allowed to put them in CBU2 since CBU2 had no AAA team, but SE doubling down on AAA dev and putting them in CBU2 means they just gave CBU2 its first AAA team
Barry your track record for predictions is awful, you seriously have a curse that fucks you over at every opportunity
if you keep saying they're working on FF17 the universe will make sure it doesn't happen
Lol got anymore?
one of my faves
The gullibility of the snoyim knows no end it would seem, thank you snoy I'll add to my worthless collection
>mmoslop
You mean fake sockpuppet accounts and not legitimate userscores like other games? Yeah we know FF14 fags are desperate to fake scores, meanwhile on amazon FF16 lost to FF15 userreviews and the true score of ff16 userscore is below FF15 before ff14 trannies raided and faked scores at a higher rate than even TOTK was getting userscores added
14chuds do be like that
So FF7R is the best modern FF?
5ch is even shitting on FF16 because the screenshots in the ultimania are too fucking dark to see anything lmao
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1694139575
>it's your eyes that are bad
>t. yoshitra cultists
Flopspookem jej
4k ultra + 4090ti and RT for Donkey Kong 64 graphics? No wonder luminous was killed lol
that's a PS5 perf mode screenshot outside of regular gameplay
It still mogs FF16
>writeoff 100m
>die
>lose to cat sex at cedec
Flopslotten kek
FF16 lost $147m, it has made $0 profit, Forspoken meanwhile had more of its budget paid by Sony, and taht $100m included DLC, the amount sony paid and marketting, so it really only cost $55m, and Forspoken sold at least 1.5m sold which is enough to cover its costs and profit a little bit, but not a lot
FF16 hasn't even profited at all
>Forspoken, a game that simultaneously released on PC, had more of its budget paid by Sony that FF16, a true PS5 exclusive
lol. lmao.
Forspoken has 2 years of Sony console exclusivity, FF16 only has 6 months of Sony console exclusivity, so yes, you fucking idiot
Also multiple insiders said Sony was more interested in Forspoken than FF16, when Forspoken was announced they made all their banners on social media Forspoken ones, they never did that for FF16
>slop fantasy chudteen and shartspoken kill square enix together
[good news]
>lose to 7r
Lol Barry lost
Why did FF16 and 7R combined lose to XV?
Why did FF16 flop so hard
>open game
>take screenshot
>close game
>complain on twitter
>this account no longer exists
Dead studio lol
The snoyim will serve and we will sit comfortably like a leaf
the snoyim know, shut it down
>luminous
>alive
Lol no
Then why did SE put them in CBU2 on AAA dev and continuing Luminous engine development while saying CBU3 is not making FF17?
>kills studio in your path
>asks if she did that
>exclaims she did that with her mind
>dies out of $100m + tip
Flopclosure jej
BD5 was killed
FF16 hacks are confirmed to not be making FF17 and are only on FF14 dead on arrival MMO trash nobody plays
Forspoken staff are in CBU2 on a AAA SE existing IP and still doing Luminous engine development for AAA games
>loses to voltion game
>uses self destruct
>dies
>takes volition with it
At least 15 managed to do 1 good thing lol
No wonder FF16 lost
KH3 still flopped
>ff15 80% off a week after launch
Kek
That isn't sales price you retard that is trade in price, and FF16 had an even lower price than that the week it launched
The fact that pokemon price is off there too shows that is trade in price because pokemon never goes on sale