Steam killed physical game copies ages ago. At one point they started selling boxes at stores that just had a card to a Steam code.
Valve convinced all those developers that DRM via Steam was the best way to release on PC.
0,0001% of PC gamers own a blu-ray drive, no one would buy.
Then again i dunno the logístics of just shopping it a read only pen drive if those even exist.
Yes, I just got a new one for 4k Blu-Ray in my new machine.
Better than streaming, Hollywood just needs to start treating it like the record industry treats vinyl.
Hypothetically with the new USB game companies could go back to the days of bootable game media where the game reboots to get as minimal and fast an environment as possible without all the Windows bloat.
That's happening now. Look at Arrow releasing classic films for like $45 in collectors editions only, new James Cameron 4K collection is releasing in giant collectors edition only versions physically.
Yes, I use it to: >watch movies/shows in their best quality without relying on streaming. >rip movies/shows in lossless quality and put it on my Kodi to avoid botched studio edits from streaming. >burn .iso's of my fave vidya and play them on my modded console like the good ol' days. >rip fave disc based games into .iso's and play them via emulation like the good ol' days. >make obnoxious spinning noise for no good reason at all because lol.
Yes, I just got a new one for 4k Blu-Ray in my new machine.
Better than streaming, Hollywood just needs to start treating it like the record industry treats vinyl.
Hypothetically with the new USB game companies could go back to the days of bootable game media where the game reboots to get as minimal and fast an environment as possible without all the Windows bloat.
I do to play bluray anime/hentai too.
That's what BD remuxes are for. Encodes are also often better than the BDs and software can help as well.
Even if you buy BDs for collection there's really no reason to use them.
My friend and I were playing both World and Battlefield 1 a lot at around the same time. We must have spent hours just on loading screens between the two.
>being a disingenuous fuckwit.
you're save scumming, which causes the load time to increase nearly two fold even on high end PCs.
i've played through the game on both a very high end pc (17-13700k, 4080, 64g ram) and I've played through the game on PS5. The ps5 load times are longer, but it's not a game where you are doing a ton of loading anyway unless you're being a little bitch that save scums every roll
>$80
what the f- >special edition with extra shit
oh neat, still not buying it but at least there's a reason to make a physical edition since it's doubling as a collector's edition. game has 0 drm so they should have included discs for the pc release too.
Honestly, you can't really ask for a better deal than this from a fairly successful game. It's not greedy at all. They're offering things to justify the price tag that others are selling barebones digital copies for. I don't care much for the game, but this is undoubtedly very consumer friendly.
Actually including a physical disc for the PC release with an installer on it, along with a Steam code, is practically unheard of. Not only do you get the game to add to your digital library but if you don't want to do that, you can play off the installer instead. This is legitimately the best game release in recent memory, it's been at least a decade since we've seen a PC release this consumer friendly. You could use the installer for yourself and then sell the Steam key if you really wanted to.
Yeah, getting the enhanced edition update in the future would be dependent on using the Steam key but giving the consumer the option to sell the key but still be able to play the game if they wanted to is the most consumer friendly thing we've seen in ages. Or using the key for themselves and then letting friends borrow the CD to play it, we haven't seen anything that on PC in a while. I doubt any other company is going to copy this but it's nice to see a company not being complete homosexuals for a change when some console collectors editions are releasing without a physical copy of the game these days because of the digital only consoles.
>still
That's usually a few years after it releases, and generally (I know it's the case for PC, dunno about consoles) if you already have the non-definitive edition of the game, they give you the definitive edition for free.
isn't as bad as it sounds.
i played DOS2 with controller and was ok. obviously it's faster with m+k but everything was smooth and worked well, and spend 120h beating the game this way.
I played Kingmkaer and WotR with m+kb and I just got sick of it and wanted to try something new.
Controller worked great for BG3 aside from the radial wheels constantly re-arranging themselves and creating new wheels. Was that fixed in an update?
They already said there's no DLC planned for BG3 and I doubt they would start working on it months after releasing the game.
Working with wizards of the coast must have been a pain
>>Hmm BG3 has been quite the success
We don't know because Tencent owns 1/3 of Larian and they won't release official numbers. The only numbers revealed came from a Chinese embassy and there is no way to verify them.
A physical release seems desperate, since those can be tracked.
>Note: This comparison contains both Search Terms and Topics
The previous anon was forcing their preferred outcome by look at just the specific term "Baldur's Gate 3"
Starfield is rendered as one word and people are just going to type that out.
Almost nobody is going to type "Baldur's Gate 3" and do that exact search.
PS5 runs a BSD UNIX-like OS, pretty similar to the GNU/Linux UNIX-like OS that the Steam Deck runs, and that is almost universally used for high-performance computing.
Xbox's software is derived from Windows, it is a lot more bloated, and the file system is slower so they may be including content on the disks multiple times to speed up access.
BSD is very much a Unix (AT&T used a lot of BSD code in UNIX), and is nothing at all like Linux. Also there are no high performance filesystems for BSD, which helps explain why the loading times on the PS are so slow.
Genetically yes, BSD is proper UNIX, however it doesn't have the blessing of the UNIX licensing body so in that sense it is only UNIX-like.
Apple actually paid to get their "OS X" BSD distro officially licensed at one point years ago, but at this point nobody really cares and I think they dropped it.
GNU/Linux is of course a third-party independent clone and not genetically based on AT&T/BSD code, but it is also the most used UNIX-like OS now.
Nonetheless, there is no code shared between the two operating systems, so referring to Linux in a discussion of the performance of BSD is badly mistaken. Most of BSD is stuck firmly in the 1980's. Not that that's a bad thing, I personally prefer BSD having used it in college in the 80's and 90's, but it is nowhere as performant as Linux.
Guess that shows how much attention I've paid to BSD in the last decade or two outside of occasionally using OS X.
Slackware still has a special place in my heart because of how old-school it is, but these days I run Arch BTW.
From the Blu-Ray anon. You know, the thing that there is one more of for the Xbox than the other systems?
Multiple copies means less seek time. Consoles do that shit all the time. Loading a scene? Include all the textures for all the main characters too in the same spot on the disk so it doesn't have to jump to another part of the disk to get them.
Installing every single console game is MANDATORY on PS and Xbox since the Xbox One and PS4. Every game runs from the internal drive. The disc is an installer (unless online updates made it obsolete) and a key to run the game.
I guess extra size needed because Series X probably runs at a slightly higher resolutions and their are probably different things needed for the Series S version.
>Stickers >Patches
10 cent garbage >Small poster and map
Eh okay >Soundtrack and a neat box
Standard but sure
20 bucks extra for that? Eh. Also this makes it look like BG3 isn't going on sale for a long, long time. At least it looks like an actual physical disc but a lot of PCs don't even come with disc drives anymore.
>CD key
Why would they bother with copy protection on the physical version of the game? If someone wants to pirate it they can already download the gog version.
>stickers (lol) >patches (lmao) >map for a linear game where you can't even explore it >no manual that explains all the D&D shit, lore and class progression like the one old BG and other Infinity Engine games had
Why physical editions are so fucking SHIT these days?
ZOMG 32 STICKERS AND TWO PATCHES??? I really want to use them but I don't want the value to go down either! Guess I'm going to keep them in the plastic as an investment 🙂
I was thinking of getting the PC version just off the old school big box idea until I saw this. What's the point if it's just going direct you to steam to download.
>game unexpectedly sells much better than expected >company decides to release a physical edition to milk even more sales
oh cool, another pure greed tactic that other companies will mirror and further advance us toward the next videogame collapse. fuck this industry
Instead of wasting resources on this shit when almost everyone has gone full digital Larian should be trying to capitalize their popularity and work on a expansion (or simply finishing the bloody third act)
What's the point in physical media if games don't release complete anymore? I know BG3 released complete but I mean bug fixes and shit? All games get patched now, I know you can just update the game but still, seems like a waste given how most games are these days (decade).
Thats how games were back then too. You bought Sims 1 Complete Pack on all the discs and it's still not complete because you need patches from Maxis site or mod websites.
How does the game play with a controller anyway? I normally play on PS5 because it's much better than my PC, but this feels like it might be more of a mouse-clicking game?
You won't miss anything important, they're old and outdated. Watch a recap video for the story if need be, BG1 has a cool story that is echoed in parts of BG3.
Just go straight for BG3, just try it for 2 hours on Steam and refund if need be, just don't spend too long in character creator tho kek
They're antiquated and the writing is bigly overrated. You have to understand, Faerun is a pure slop setting so nothing actually good (in terms of writing) can ever come out of it, the combat in BG and Icewind Dale is basically you pre buff and put melee fighters in the front and pause when you want to cast a spell. Fucking boring.
Is the switch port of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 any good? I kind of want to have a portable version of them and it's on sale now but I heard it has crash issues and save deletion bugs so not sure if it's worth it
where's PC version?
Steam killed physical game copies ages ago. At one point they started selling boxes at stores that just had a card to a Steam code.
Valve convinced all those developers that DRM via Steam was the best way to release on PC.
>at one point
That was my Skyrim physical edition 12 years ago
>DRM via Steam
Steamworks isn't mandatory for a game to be sold on Steam
Most devs that are DRMing shit use Denuvo or some other third party
read op again
0,0001% of PC gamers own a blu-ray drive, no one would buy.
Then again i dunno the logístics of just shopping it a read only pen drive if those even exist.
There are USB disc drives that you can buy
Wait. People still have disc drives on their PCs?
Yes, I just got a new one for 4k Blu-Ray in my new machine.
Better than streaming, Hollywood just needs to start treating it like the record industry treats vinyl.
Hypothetically with the new USB game companies could go back to the days of bootable game media where the game reboots to get as minimal and fast an environment as possible without all the Windows bloat.
This is all obsolete media. Why don't you just get a VHS player to boot?
I ported all the VHS I cared about to mpeg files years ago and sent the tapes to Wisconsin.
>Yes, I just got a new one for 4k Blu-Ray in my new machine.
>Better than streaming,
Windows can't even playback Dolby Vision properly. It's pointless even for movies.
Who said I run Windows?
You have even worse HDR support on linux so I don't know what to tell you
That's happening now. Look at Arrow releasing classic films for like $45 in collectors editions only, new James Cameron 4K collection is releasing in giant collectors edition only versions physically.
I do to play bluray anime/hentai too.
You sound like someone who doesn't have a floppy drive.
Yes, I use it to:
>watch movies/shows in their best quality without relying on streaming.
>rip movies/shows in lossless quality and put it on my Kodi to avoid botched studio edits from streaming.
>burn .iso's of my fave vidya and play them on my modded console like the good ol' days.
>rip fave disc based games into .iso's and play them via emulation like the good ol' days.
>make obnoxious spinning noise for no good reason at all because lol.
That's what BD remuxes are for. Encodes are also often better than the BDs and software can help as well.
Even if you buy BDs for collection there's really no reason to use them.
I don't understand how the encode would be an improvement on anything but size - do you have examples/explanation?
They can't, unless he's one of those autists complaining about green tint in modern color grading or similar.
How else would you watch bootlegs of old pornos you can't find online?
>not having everything you've ever seen backed up into a digital format
Anon for ages now you can buy a USB powered disc drive. Nobody puts a drive in their PC.
there's a PC version if you actually go to the preorder link, idk why they don't mention it
They literally say right there it's for xbox, ps5 and pc.
Oh. I didn't realize it was digital only for consoles originally.
Hope the load times on Xbox are faster than PS5 it looks unbearable
Jesus, I have a 13900k with 990pro 2tb and I thought they were pretty slow
I played it on 7200HDD and the loading was like 20-30 seconds
what do you consider fucking slow on god damn nvme? 3 seconds?
Wtf you talking about, I also have a 13900k and a 980 evo, my load screen was never more than 3 seconds.
Reminds me of pre patch bloodborne on ps4. Holy shit that's bad.
THE POWER OF THE SSD
what the fuck
Probably has more to do with the PS5's dedicated decompression chip.
Reminds me of those Monster Hunter World load times.
My friend and I were playing both World and Battlefield 1 a lot at around the same time. We must have spent hours just on loading screens between the two.
this is the consequence of save scumming every roll
Reminds me of new vegas loading times on consoles.
How little things change
>being a disingenuous fuckwit.
you're save scumming, which causes the load time to increase nearly two fold even on high end PCs.
i've played through the game on both a very high end pc (17-13700k, 4080, 64g ram) and I've played through the game on PS5. The ps5 load times are longer, but it's not a game where you are doing a ton of loading anyway unless you're being a little bitch that save scums every roll
Fuck off, Swen. Optimize your games better.
>long load times are a feature
Welcome to crpgs, newfags.
There aren't many loading screens in the game at least.
But what about PS5 magic SSD?
No magic SSD can beat the eurojank
That's PC not PS5 look at the video date why did this get so many replies anyways?????????????
50 second load times? Are you fucking kidding me? Glad I never bothered with this shit. Jesus Christ.
>$80
what the f-
>special edition with extra shit
oh neat, still not buying it but at least there's a reason to make a physical edition since it's doubling as a collector's edition. game has 0 drm so they should have included discs for the pc release too.
read the wee lil fine print at the bottom of the image
oh fuck it actually does include the installer and that's separate from the steam key? unfathomably based.
it's already DRM free on Steam anyway, might be the GOG installer and a Steam key.
Honestly, you can't really ask for a better deal than this from a fairly successful game. It's not greedy at all. They're offering things to justify the price tag that others are selling barebones digital copies for. I don't care much for the game, but this is undoubtedly very consumer friendly.
Actually including a physical disc for the PC release with an installer on it, along with a Steam code, is practically unheard of. Not only do you get the game to add to your digital library but if you don't want to do that, you can play off the installer instead. This is legitimately the best game release in recent memory, it's been at least a decade since we've seen a PC release this consumer friendly. You could use the installer for yourself and then sell the Steam key if you really wanted to.
you'd probably want to register the Steam key regardless so you could get updates
Yeah, getting the enhanced edition update in the future would be dependent on using the Steam key but giving the consumer the option to sell the key but still be able to play the game if they wanted to is the most consumer friendly thing we've seen in ages. Or using the key for themselves and then letting friends borrow the CD to play it, we haven't seen anything that on PC in a while. I doubt any other company is going to copy this but it's nice to see a company not being complete homosexuals for a change when some console collectors editions are releasing without a physical copy of the game these days because of the digital only consoles.
buy an ad
>still no Definitive Edition release
I sleep
>still
That's usually a few years after it releases, and generally (I know it's the case for PC, dunno about consoles) if you already have the non-definitive edition of the game, they give you the definitive edition for free.
>crpg
>on a console
isn't as bad as it sounds.
i played DOS2 with controller and was ok. obviously it's faster with m+k but everything was smooth and worked well, and spend 120h beating the game this way.
I played Kingmkaer and WotR with m+kb and I just got sick of it and wanted to try something new.
Controller worked great for BG3 aside from the radial wheels constantly re-arranging themselves and creating new wheels. Was that fixed in an update?
i played starcraft on N64 for quite a while before getting a pc
you just make it work
I actually prefer to play BG3/DOS/DOS2 with a controller.
>Hmm BG3 has been quite the success, what should we do for DLC or an expansion?
>Hmmm
>Hmmmmm
>*Puts game on a CD*
>There we go
I know you're baiting, but they are more than likely working on both. It just is quicker to port the game so it's announced earlier.
You have to forgive them, they are underage and do not understand what it means to own an actual physical copy of a game
Your PS5 disc is going to be obsolete sooner than my steam copy.
Enjoy paying your monthly Steam subscription fee after Gaben croaks
Correction - My pirated copy will outive you all.
They already said there's no DLC planned for BG3 and I doubt they would start working on it months after releasing the game.
Working with wizards of the coast must have been a pain
>>Hmm BG3 has been quite the success
We don't know because Tencent owns 1/3 of Larian and they won't release official numbers. The only numbers revealed came from a Chinese embassy and there is no way to verify them.
A physical release seems desperate, since those can be tracked.
The physical is for collectors you dumbfuck
Doubtful it includes Steam searches in that, and everybody just searches for "BG3" anyway.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T MATCH UP WITH THE NARRATIVE IN MY DERANGED MIND
Why are my results so different?
>Note: This comparison contains both Search Terms and Topics
The previous anon was forcing their preferred outcome by look at just the specific term "Baldur's Gate 3"
Starfield is rendered as one word and people are just going to type that out.
Almost nobody is going to type "Baldur's Gate 3" and do that exact search.
>Tencent schizo
Wrong thread bro
>I MUST CONSOOOOOOMMMMMMM
Fucking hate how this game has tarnished the legacy of BG1 and 2. At least P:T will never have a n°2
larian games are ass
>larian games are ass
NTA but he's right and made u mad homosexual lmao
oh shit it actually has a physical PC disc too
>2 Discs on PS5
>3 Discs on Xbox
what
PS5 runs a BSD UNIX-like OS, pretty similar to the GNU/Linux UNIX-like OS that the Steam Deck runs, and that is almost universally used for high-performance computing.
Xbox's software is derived from Windows, it is a lot more bloated, and the file system is slower so they may be including content on the disks multiple times to speed up access.
BSD is very much a Unix (AT&T used a lot of BSD code in UNIX), and is nothing at all like Linux. Also there are no high performance filesystems for BSD, which helps explain why the loading times on the PS are so slow.
Genetically yes, BSD is proper UNIX, however it doesn't have the blessing of the UNIX licensing body so in that sense it is only UNIX-like.
Apple actually paid to get their "OS X" BSD distro officially licensed at one point years ago, but at this point nobody really cares and I think they dropped it.
GNU/Linux is of course a third-party independent clone and not genetically based on AT&T/BSD code, but it is also the most used UNIX-like OS now.
Nonetheless, there is no code shared between the two operating systems, so referring to Linux in a discussion of the performance of BSD is badly mistaken. Most of BSD is stuck firmly in the 1980's. Not that that's a bad thing, I personally prefer BSD having used it in college in the 80's and 90's, but it is nowhere as performant as Linux.
Guess that shows how much attention I've paid to BSD in the last decade or two outside of occasionally using OS X.
Slackware still has a special place in my heart because of how old-school it is, but these days I run Arch BTW.
>they may be including content on the disks multiple times to speed up access
>on an SSD
Why are you pulling shit out of your ass.
From the Blu-Ray anon. You know, the thing that there is one more of for the Xbox than the other systems?
Multiple copies means less seek time. Consoles do that shit all the time. Loading a scene? Include all the textures for all the main characters too in the same spot on the disk so it doesn't have to jump to another part of the disk to get them.
Installing every single console game is MANDATORY on PS and Xbox since the Xbox One and PS4. Every game runs from the internal drive. The disc is an installer (unless online updates made it obsolete) and a key to run the game.
The more you know.
I guess extra size needed because Series X probably runs at a slightly higher resolutions and their are probably different things needed for the Series S version.
PS5 games have much better compression, most PS5 multiplats have a smaller size than Xbox games because of it.
>Stickers
>Patches
10 cent garbage
>Small poster and map
Eh okay
>Soundtrack and a neat box
Standard but sure
20 bucks extra for that? Eh. Also this makes it look like BG3 isn't going on sale for a long, long time. At least it looks like an actual physical disc but a lot of PCs don't even come with disc drives anymore.
Why the hell would they not include a real d20 into that? It's like the most obvious item to include into a special edition of BG3.
>CD key
Why would they bother with copy protection on the physical version of the game? If someone wants to pirate it they can already download the gog version.
I'm just gonna come out and say it.
I'm really fucking sick and tired of purple.
What the fuck do you need a world map for in a game that has three locations?
>Physical Edition Announced
>The game itself is still digital only
What is the point?
What the fuck is a fucking "feelie" now?
>deluxe edition
>game is still in early access
How embarrassing
>stickers (lol)
>patches (lmao)
>map for a linear game where you can't even explore it
>no manual that explains all the D&D shit, lore and class progression like the one old BG and other Infinity Engine games had
Why physical editions are so fucking SHIT these days?
>A poster
>some cards with ingame text on it
>"bonus CD", whatever the fuck that is
How is this good again?
Let's not even mention the abysmal manual with pages ripped out after 2 uses
>How is this good again?
because it's old. new thing bad, naturally
>physical feelies
why do so many adults talk like they're still a 6 year old? it really bothers me and I don't like it.
This is what happens when you have an entire generation that grew up without corporal punishment.
But I already bought the game.
Your mistake digitaloid.
ZOMG 32 STICKERS AND TWO PATCHES??? I really want to use them but I don't want the value to go down either! Guess I'm going to keep them in the plastic as an investment 🙂
They will restore cut content and fix Minthara, right? Right?
Does this mean BG3 isn't coming to Game Pass?
Only two kind of games are first day on Gamepass:
1)Microsoft exclusives
2)Trash that is expected to sell poorly
Scratch that, only one kind of game is first day on Gamepass
>on pc, cd key and installer
So no physical PC release? Why not? Bluray discs don't cost much.
it has a disc with the GOG installer on it or something
The PC installer seems to be on a Blu-Ray, but they would still need to be able to download all the fixes and updates.
PS5 version is 2 discs and Xbox is 3 discs no way PC version is one disc. Steam ruined PC gaming with their DRM and censorship.
BD discs go up to 128GB.
the Steam version of BG3 is 100% DRM free
I was thinking of getting the PC version just off the old school big box idea until I saw this. What's the point if it's just going direct you to steam to download.
To get the physical stuffs? PC version is by far the best though thanks to mods and we don't have official mod support yet.
its on gog too
Should probably wait for definitive edition before doing this shit
>game unexpectedly sells much better than expected
>company decides to release a physical edition to milk even more sales
oh cool, another pure greed tactic that other companies will mirror and further advance us toward the next videogame collapse. fuck this industry
yeah anon, Larian is the first video game developer ever to release a physical deluxe edition
we're rentering the era of games coming with multiple discs
>"Please insert Disc 2."
i'm afraid it's soul
Instead of wasting resources on this shit when almost everyone has gone full digital Larian should be trying to capitalize their popularity and work on a expansion (or simply finishing the bloody third act)
>finally bought the game a week ago
>passed the 2hr Steam refund limit just in character creation and the prologue
>now this
FUCK
tencent is happy
>le china is BAD
Yawn
> CCP is BAD
that is actually true
And? I don't live in China, CCP doesn't affect me in any way. Better worry about your own goverment
This pajeet posts in every single BG3 thread and has been doing it for months. It's quite sad.
>pajeet
why?
What's the point in physical media if games don't release complete anymore? I know BG3 released complete but I mean bug fixes and shit? All games get patched now, I know you can just update the game but still, seems like a waste given how most games are these days (decade).
it's like vinyl, most people won't bother but why not capture some money from collectorfags
Thats how games were back then too. You bought Sims 1 Complete Pack on all the discs and it's still not complete because you need patches from Maxis site or mod websites.
But we had patches back in old days. When we had gaming magazines with discs. Consoles just had bugged games too.
Larian's twitter
Nice, I'll buy it.
How does the game play with a controller anyway? I normally play on PS5 because it's much better than my PC, but this feels like it might be more of a mouse-clicking game?
I already bought the game on GOG.
Any news on the guaranteed enhanced edition?
I know they dismissed upper city being unfinished and other issues at some point
we're only like three months out from release, probably won't hear anything about a definitive/enhanced edition for at least a year
Why does Larian hate goblins?
>Can kill goblin children
>Can't kill thiefling children
Zzzz.. so glad I pirated the game. Nice "free" choice there.
>Can kill goblin children
This is false, there are two gobbo kids in front of the druid's cell and you'd have to go out of your way to not fight them.
Free here.
Will I miss too much if I don't play BG1 and 2?
I tried 5 times but I really hate RTWP.
You won't miss anything important, they're old and outdated. Watch a recap video for the story if need be, BG1 has a cool story that is echoed in parts of BG3.
Just go straight for BG3, just try it for 2 hours on Steam and refund if need be, just don't spend too long in character creator tho kek
BG1 is referenced a lot more than BG2 but they're both worth playing
They're antiquated and the writing is bigly overrated. You have to understand, Faerun is a pure slop setting so nothing actually good (in terms of writing) can ever come out of it, the combat in BG and Icewind Dale is basically you pre buff and put melee fighters in the front and pause when you want to cast a spell. Fucking boring.
You miss out on fun.
>rtwp
>fun
Yes.
brain damage
>See BG3 thread
>scroll until I see Tencet pajeet
>mfw
>close the thread
Is the switch port of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 any good? I kind of want to have a portable version of them and it's on sale now but I heard it has crash issues and save deletion bugs so not sure if it's worth it
Why cheap out for the PC one?
>xbox
a disc for each act.
Can I just buy the game physically without having to buy all the extra bullshit?