Based

>HE'S STILL GOING AT IT

>mexican jirenposter Hispanic from /dbs/ got btfo'd so hard hes trying to spread his mental illness on Ganker

It's the same spastic over and over again, seething on twitter, forum sections of Wired comments and is responsible for like 80% of these type of threads, one man mentally ill army posting these threads for like 16 hours a day, not even part of the discord group you can tell it's him every time by the way he talks and makes the same spelling mistakes.

>NOOOO STOP NOTICING

>y-you can't point out our spam! that makes YOU the spammer!
Peak mental illness

It's a bot. The same bot that was programmed to make those anti Kojima Death Stranding threads months prior until he got bored and gave up.

>oozing axe wound fromchud thinks he's at home on Ganker of all places on the internet

Speaking of clockwork, you shouldn't be late on your 6am sharp dilation session.

>westoids see an effeminate male character
>OMG HE'S A MENTALLY ILL chud LIKE ME!!!!
I don't know why we stopped lobotomizing these freaks.

Dopamine fried brain coupled with terminally online social retardation prevents them from understanding any layer of subtlety. They simply see a character they think is a chud and claim it. I would almost feel pity for them but they are such fucking vocal obnoxious narcissist that they get everything they deserve.

>Zorofag Elden Ring run
Based zoomy, looks fun.

No you can't, and not in the same numbers.

Nobody said it was a chud or zoomer game. But it's objectively true zoomers and trannies love ER.
You're also wrong that you can find zoomers as fans of anything when there are things that are known and recognized zoomer repellent like basically all media made before 2010.

>zoomers and trannies
>trannies and zoomers
this place has rotted your brain, go outside for the love of christ you bellend

Truly.

There's no reason to believe the Jar Bairn's quest ends in anything but his corpse if you have a monkey's pattern recognition, the same with the useless lizard girl that gives you a debuff amulet.
And even if Miyazaki allowed the writer to write the end to a questline, Godwyn is still literally ending the world.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Death is inherently meaningless, it's the end of meaning. Tolkien, a war veteran, understood this very fucking well I have no idea what you mean?
Even Tolkien would agree that if Person A saves Person B from a poisonous snake, and after they depart, Person B falls down a hole, Person A's altruism has now been rendered worthless.

>a christian believes death is the end
Seriously, how stupid are you exactly? Are you in the double digits?

Totally agree, there's really no point in saving a baby from a house fire when it's just gonna die in eighty years.

>I never mentioned gow

It was the only possible contender and it sucks ass.

What you need to realize is: Elden Ring offers you two different ways to experience it.
1. If you play Elden Ring with online guides it's inferior to new God of War in almost every single way. Exploration doesn't matter, story is - more or less - clear, and combat system is simple. Remember that people used to finish ER on their first run in 60 hours? Yep, those are people who decided to ruin their game by letting others do 90% things game has to offer.
2. On the other hand - you have people who don't use online guides. Bonus points if this is their first FromSoftware game. This is ultimate vidya experience, at least one order of magnitude better than GoW:R. You don't know what the hell is happening. You don't know where the hell to go. You won't simply go for OP weapon because you don't know it exists. Hell, you have to decide whether to upgrade your initial sword - or keep hoarding smithing stones.

>if you don't need handholding you're autistic

>Yes, I too love to wonder around in games without any goal or aim
You typed this sentence as if you expected people to find the idea ridiculous.

It has been crumbling for a century now. Babel is falling, it's just taking very long for many people to notice since the tower is very tall.

It points you in the direction of hard progression and if you follow the grace line and nothing else you miss 90% of the game, and even with a glowing yellow line pointing you in the "right" direction retards were still getting lost in droves and couldn't figure out that they were supposed to go to the giant fucking castle on the cliffside that's the literal first thing you see when you walk out into the game world

>but I'm not going to gatekeep the game for people who enjoy playing the games differently.
It's not about gatekeeping. It's about understanding that two people playing ER can have two different experiences.

Think about movie spoilers and how reading them can ruin your experience. Same goes for Elder Ring - if you know where to go, where's the good loot and what build you need then you game changes from great open-world game to streamlined experience.

That's your opinion. Now try to look from the perspective of a person who thinks GoW is masterpiece and at the same time read online guides - for a lack of a better word let's call him "normie".

For normie there's no exploration of the world. It means he can't get a "wow, I found good loot" moment. He simply knows that he needs to get sword at location A and then go and beat boss B. There's no decision making which makes game fun. There's no figuring out the build. There's no "ok, weapon X is better but I've been using weapon Y for 80% of game so I'm going to stick to it" thought. Remember finding cool incantation? Normie, from the very beginning, KNEW there's better option.

I could go on but you should get the idea.

There's nothing to explore. World is relatively small, each dungeon is the exact same thing, legacy dungeons and major locations are impossible to miss, every single piece of loot aside from smithing stones is just useless, NPC questlines are unrewarding, puzzles are fucking stupid or/and obnoxious, it's all shit. You have teleporting dogs (which were bugged and dealt like 2000 damage at launch, lol), and poison swamps, and rot swamps, and swamps, and big enemies that have 20 hit combos to subvert your expectations, and bosses with neverending attacks to subvert your expectations after trying to roll away from an attack, and enemy placement forces you to cheese everything far away with a bow because otherwise you're fucking dead
Elden Ring is so fucking dogshit, this is some Truman Show shit with how everyone praises this game to no end, it's like you're surrounded by some paid actors who want to raise your blood pressure for god knows why.

This is how the smartest Elden Ring defender acts like, for every 50 words he reads, he spouts a single one as an answer.

One can wonder what is going on in the head of an Elden Ring Defense Squad member, is there any process at all? A rhythm in his brain activity? Is it his duty to defend a subpar $60 AAA open-world game?

I actually bought elden ring twice. once on playstation and then on PC. I got all the trophies in both version.
I had fun.

Based. I did the same. PS4 and Steam Deck.

how, i felt burned out after the 1st playthrough, had no willpower to go through everything again unlike Souls games, each warranting a minimum of 3 NG cycles for me

the amount of hours I spend in games just walking around and enjoying the art and ost is ridiculous. elden ring till this day hasn't gotten boring for me. never uninstalled it from the console.

The games don't have a story. If they had one there wouldn't be videos with millions of views trying to create a story out of the lore. Do million of people just not know the story of the game they played?

Dark Souls 1 is good. They're all very good but some are better than others. DeS and BB are the best, then immediately after these you have DaS and Sekiro, then you have ER and DaS3, then DaS2.
No way Dark Souls is "hot garbage" or 3 is better than it.

It's like you played a different game.

>I don't think many people would seriously argue that Dark Souls 1 had flawless performance
Enough of them argued the poor performance was intentional, anyway, to stick in my memory.

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Ah yes, I remember that one too.

Regardless any player/fanbase is going to have retards and they should be mocked, Souls games have more of them than is typical because of the style of storytelling they employ and becsuse a few of the games do just have genuinely poor, nonsensical writing and people tried just as hard to magic up some nonexistent meaning and depth for them when it wasn't there, but that doesn't mean the handful of them that do have legitimately good writing suddenly don't as a result

>we were only pretending to be retarded!

>2013
>Discord

>If another undead gathers all the souls again
The ones that you burned in the lordvessel? There are no more lord souls

This is why I said DS2/3's retcon ruined the interpretation of the first game. The lord souls don't come back in the context of the original story, only four were ever found and no new ones were ever discovered or created, Gwyn resorted to burning his own soul in the first flame to keep it lit in a last ditch effort to stave off the age of dark, amd it's barely enough to keep it going. New lord souls don't just appear at random, the ones that exist are the only ones that have ever existed and once you burn them they're gone. The idea of them reappearing for no reason and everything being an endless cycle did not exist until DS2

They were found in the first flame a thousand years ago and have significantly diminished power by the events of the game, and you burn them in the lordvessel to open the way to the first flame. When you get to the first flame, Gwyn is using his own lord soul as fuel to keep it lit and it's barely embers at that point despite the soul itself telling you it's "a powerful thing indeed." Everything that was burnt is gone now, do you think Gwyn would have resorted to essentially killing himself to keep the flame lit if there were any other option? Don't you think other lords would have arisen if the lord souls weren't fixed and more could be created or found?

The first flame was an anomaly, and the attempt to recreate it once it started to fade was a catastrophic disaster. The fact that no other lord souls ever appeared after the initial four leads me to believe they're the only four that exist, especially considering their affinities. Nito and the Witch of Izalith's souls represent death and life, and you burn both of those in the lordvessel. Gwyn's soul is more vague but seems to represent light and power, which are intangible things that are clearly finite by nature. The dark soul represents humanity and the physical, dark sorceries and pyromancies are literally weaponized humanity and they have physical weight to them. When Gwyn's light soul grows weak, the dark soul grows stronger, and due to the dark soul's nature as physical and tangible and the light soul's nature as intangible and sort of conceptual, when the dark soul becomes powerful enough its effects seem to irreversibly overtake the light soul, and since you've burned all the other souls by that point anyway, where else would you find fuel for the first flame especially considering it's already gone completely out in an age of dark? And would anyone in an age of dark, say a brainless hollow or a darkwraith whose whole motivation is stealing other people's souls and humanity to keep themselves strong and alive, even want to relight the flame?

Reincarnation in Dark Souls 1 is a bad thing, that's the whole point of the undead curse. The more you die and come back, the more of yourself you lose until you're eventually a mindless hollow with just enough of a soul and memory inside you to desperately want to be a person again, which is why hollows attack you and not each other presumably. They want what you have and try to kill you to take it, which is why the undead curse got so bad and kept spreading

No one existed before the first flame. Go back to the intro you mentioned, the first flame created disparity and with it life and death, before it appeared there was nothing but eternally lifeless and static stone dragons and archtrees

>In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog.
>A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons.
>But then there was Fire and with fire came disparity.
>Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark.
>Then from the dark, They came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame.
The first flame predated everything but the dragons and the archtrees

Dark didn't exist before the flame created disparity, anon. The flame created light and dark as the intro clearly states, "They" came from the dark because the dark is humanity's natural state

>what I'm saying is that these creatures always existed down there
They didn't. Nothing existed but the dragons and the archtrees, then the flame appeared and created light and dark, and humanity formed from the dark. It's why humanity is literally pieces of the dark soul
>Sadly this topic is a bit confusing to discuss because basic words like light, dark, life, and humanity have very specific connotations in this setting and I'm trying to use both the setting-specific meanings of these words and the real-world meanings of these words.
It can get confusing for sure but in this instance humanity and the dark are synonymous, the dark soul is the essence and genesis of humanity. Thus when dark was created with the advent of disparity, humans then came from the dark

>The dark soul is called humanity for the sake of a play on words,
The dark soul is called humanity because the item, humanity, is very literally tiny pieces of the dark soul which are the essence and primeval state of humanity. The little black bedsheet ghosts you find in the Chasm of the Abyss are larger pieces of the dark soul that have gained sentience, Pursuers touches on this and probably has the most important item description in the game
>Sorcery of Manus, Father of the Abyss. Grant a fleeting will to the Dark of humanity, and volley the result.
>The will feels envy, or perhaps love, and despite the inevitable trite and tragic ending, the will sees no alternative, and is driven madly towards its target.

No, it's the distinction. The things themselves aren't disparity, it's the difference between the things.

If I light a fire in a cave did I create the darkness?

What I'm asking you is if I enter a cave and it's pitch black and then I light a fire and suddenly I see shadows on the walls, were those shadows there the whole time or did I create them?

It does matter, the shadows were there the whole time, introducing light just makes them visible.

The point of the age of archtrees is that neither were there, it's not really supposed to make sense. The absence of light is naturally dark with our understanding, but the first flame appeared in a world where those binary concepts didn't exist on a metaphysical level and created light and dark, life and death, etc. hence "and with fire, came disparity"