>Batman has the best villains in all of media. >Every fucking Batman game is all about the Joker

>Batman has the best villains in all of media
>Every fucking Batman game is all about the Joker

Rocksteady are hacks!

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman has the best villains
    >nobody has the balls to not use Joker because none of them have even half the normie appeal and recognition he does
    Maybe Harley Quinn now she's stopped piggybacking on Joker's fame

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's gonna happen when Batman and Joker are old men with broken discs in thier backs?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Batman Beyond happens

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What about the Joker?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            same deal

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Joker's looking pretty good for an old man. They should have their graves next to each other.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Joker's dead in Beyond, that's some mind control chip possessing a middle aged Tim Drake

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's Tim Drake being taken over by a Joker microchip

                >Bats outlives Joker
                Aw shit. How'd J die, old age or did he get got finally? I'm never gonna watch the show

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He gets killed by Tim Drake who he attempted to brainwash into Joker Jr

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's Tim Drake being taken over by a Joker microchip

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Best Batman movie without a doubt
              Fuck Dark Knight Fuck The Batman

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                mask of the phantasm

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so what does joker want more. to KILL batman or to make him break his code and have that "one bad day" he keeps philosophizing over?

      Batman villains are great because most of them feel kind of real and grounded
      The worst villains in Batman are the ones with super powers. Poison Ivy and Clayface suck dick.

      I kinda like Killer Croc turning into a actual gigantic monster croc in the Arkham games. way cooler than just being a ugly leper with sharp teeth.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the writer but generally it's the latter

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I could understand it early on, when it meant they could easily snag Mark Hamill.
    Wasn't the joker villain actually clayface once?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wasn't the joker villain actually clayface once?
      yes, im pretty sure he was the final boss l, and just a fucking reskin of the first boss Grundy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For most of City, Joker is Joker, but Clayface disguises as Joker to trick Batman into thinking that Joker isn't dying of Venom poisoning.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's not a reskin, just one similar move iirc plus a 2nd phase with an entirely unique sword moveset for batman

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Arkham series went as far as using fucking Firefly, they're the last people I would blame for focusing too much on Joker.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joker is the quintessential Batman villain, he just makes everything more fun.
    And when you actually think about it, the main villains in City and Knight are not Joker.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is the main villain in City not Joker

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do I have to remind you who masterminded the whole thing? Did you play the game?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hugo Strange sets it all up and yet somehow it's still Joker who comes out on top and takes the final spotlight

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ra's Al Gul was in the game for about 10 minutes. He had less presence than Zsasz.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And yet he was the mastermind. Even if you ignore that, Strange was the second main villain.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joker: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
    Two face:smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
    Penguin: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
    Riddler: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
    Bane: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
    The Al Ghouls: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities

    Yeah really great creative villains

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bane: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
      He has super strength.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Penguin: smart but nuts,
      He's not crazy, he's basically a mobster.
      >Bane: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
      Also not really crazy and has super strength.

      I would take human villains with interesting gimmicks any day instead of the superpower shlock that is the rest of capeshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not crazy
        >wants to fight the bat man

        Working out a bunch in a hole in the ground isn't a super power

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Working out a bunch in a hole in the ground
          What are you talking about? Are you mixing up the dogshit Nolan lore with the actual comic one?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine reading a batman comic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I dont read comics, but I know the background of the most well known characters. Everyone does.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bane: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
      The Al Ghouls: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
      Bane is enhanced with venom giving him super strength, Ra's al Ghul has the lazarus pit making him immortal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman villains don't need excessive power creep to creative. Most of them not having supernatural abilities keeps them grounded, believable and more nuanced.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is exactly why I hate the idea that Batman shares the same universe with Superman and other supernatural characters in the comics.
        Good thing they didnt really have many references to that in the Arkham games.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >keeps them grounded, believable and more nuanced
        Like the time Joker became Iran's Ambassador the UN so Ayatollah Khomeini could use him to kill all the delegates

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean you don't relate to chasing a clown in a helicopter after he tried to gas the UN and blown up your prodigy acrobat son who thought his mother could have been the serial killer martial artist woman who's also one of your sworn enemies?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ryu: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Ken: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Blanka: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Guile: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      E. Honda: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Zangief: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Chun-Li: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Dhalsim: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Sagat: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Balrog: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Vega: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      M. Bison: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Cammy: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Deejay: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Fei Long: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Thunder Hawk: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting
      Akuma: strong, good at martial arts and likes fighting

      WOOOOOOAH

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Half of them can throw energy projectiles, emit electricity, stretch their limbs, breathe fire...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Way to miss the point, retard-kun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman villains are great because most of them feel kind of real and grounded
      The worst villains in Batman are the ones with super powers. Poison Ivy and Clayface suck dick.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ivy
        >superpowers
        Tell me you don't actually read the comics without telling me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow anon I didn't know the power to control plants and turn them into man eating monster flowers was so normal and common

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He hasn't unlocked his plant-growing powers yet
            Not gonna make it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ivy can't "control plants" retard, she's a chemist who uses her knowledge to make her plants stronger. You just pretend you're a fan so you can talk shit.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is a weird bit anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude I don't know what to tell you. Ivy can only do plantbender shit in the Tim Burton movie, the official version of her powers is that it's all chemistry based and just knows how to create evil monster plants.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon we all know you're wrong. None of us have to go look it up on the comics wiki.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever anon. She started out as a chemist and then some continuities make her a magical plant throwing demigod because that's what people assume her as already, even though that just makes her a discount Swamp Thing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Clayface has the potential to be interesting if a good writer uses him in a sort of cat and mouse story where he uses shapeshifting to trick Batman. Unfortunately, a majority of his appearances are just le hulking monster who smashes things.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the mallet-hand thing he always does is cool. the wierd "absorb them into my body and try to suffocate them" thing he pulls everytime someone gets stuck punching/kicking him is a classic too.

          I always wondered though WTF does Clayface eat?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The thing nobody seems to understand is that a villain has to be charismatic for him to work as a main antagonist. Both in movies or games.
          So no, Clayface cant be a main villain, only a secondary.

          That's also partially why people thought Riddler from The Batman wasnt as interesting. Meanwhile everyone loves the movies with Joker. Even when Jim Carrey played Riddler it was kino, because he had charisma and was acting crazy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Clayface was originally some movie actor. Why wouldn't he be charismatic? Arkham City proved that his ability to meld into other personas could make him into an interesting villain.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Has to be not only charismatic but have an interesting persona or a gimmick.
              Maybe it could be done but it would be hard to create an entire movie or a game around him. Would have to be relatively small scale because all he can realistically do is just impersonate people.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Joker's gimmick is being insane and making poison gas yet they let him get up to all sorts of shit. A guy who can perfectly imitate anyone he wants while also turning into a giant mud monster can do just as much if people cared to try.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a villain has to be charismatic for him to work as a main antagonist.
                >So no, Clayface cant be a main villain
                just give him a cool "main" human form that he uses for most of the game/movie. he only changes into monster form for fight scenes.
                could be extra cool if they don't make it obvious that he is clayface until he surprises batman with his powers in the first fight scene.

                I dont think Clayface has ever had any grand goals or the intelligence for them, as opposed to Joker.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And there we have it, charismatic clayface

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a villain has to be charismatic for him to work as a main antagonist.
            >So no, Clayface cant be a main villain
            just give him a cool "main" human form that he uses for most of the game/movie. he only changes into monster form for fight scenes.
            could be extra cool if they don't make it obvious that he is clayface until he surprises batman with his powers in the first fight scene.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >could be extra cool if they don't make it obvious that he is clayface until he surprises batman with his powers in the first fight scene
              That's how they handled it in Arkham City

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            charismatic villians are only needed for Generic 'Action' Villains where they have some huge elaborate (and easy to translate into a movie/game) plot
            Clayface can work extremely well theoretically in shit like mystery storylines where you don't even know who the villain is until the big reveal,
            Riddler works for more sherlock holmes style storylines where the point is to constantly misdirect the reader/watcher.

            however those type of storylines don't do well with the masses and its pretty much guaranteed that most people give an action movie/game a try which is why like 90 percent of batman shit are action games and movies and batman doesn't have many villains which work well in action movies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bane is a big guy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        for you

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bane: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities
      >The Al Ghouls: smart but nuts, no powers or abilities

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >creativity is when characters have nonsense powers

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman has the best villains in all of media
    it really doesnt

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You'll never get to fuck Harley because your not an insane clown
    Feels bad lads

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tara strong harley

      the sole reason why the hideous dyed twintails trend begun in the first place. bring back glorious, blonde, skin-tight suit harley!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can rape her if you're batman

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman has the Joker and the airplane man and that's about it.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just want to share that arkham riddler is the best batman villain
    intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What if we made a Redditor a villain?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The one retard in this thread that thinks anyone reads comics in the modern day
    Fanfiction is less embarrassing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman is the only comic people still read
      Some Batman series are so popular they even spawn their own mini-verse

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Female side kick using a bow and arrow
        I NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither Professor Zoom nor Black Manta are Batman villains, albeitthoughever.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Needed Lord Death Man.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why can't they just give me a game where I play as the joker?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's just free roam GTA

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's share good none Joker stories, then:
    Not to start with the obvious, but Heart of Ice and Two-face part 1 & 2 from the BTAS were really very good.
    Clayface in Feat of Clay part 2 was not as good, but the animation was probably the best in the series.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically Joker's Asylum. It's an anthology of short-stories about various Batman villains. Joker really just acts as a sort of crypt-keeper.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eye of the beholder is still the best two face origin. Batman 66 did the best scarecrow and lord death man.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >currently doing the joker carnival dlc map
    I am getting filtered hard and it fucking sucks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hey that's the last medal i need for batman as well

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beat villains? You mean "gosh... MAD people and CHEMICAL stuff are DANGEROUS?!".

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Superman kills Joker after he spends years killing hundreds upon hundreds of civilians, finally topping it off by nuking a city and making Clark murder his wife and son by tricking him with gas
    >this is somehow portrayed as a villainous action
    >Batman later allying with the other person who help set up the nuke to kill Superman is a heroic action
    I hate Batwank so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Injustice is badly written fanfiction, even more so than the rest of modern DC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If he had stopped there then everything would have been fine, the problem is that he didn't stop and just got worse.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he didn't stop because every other retarded hero in this universe decided that killing the dude who nuked the city was a reprehensible action and started trying to stop him himself
        Injustice Superman was just as right as AvX Cyclops

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>this is somehow portrayed as a villainous action
      killing a person in custody usually is
      and like

      If he had stopped there then everything would have been fine, the problem is that he didn't stop and just got worse.

      says, he didn't stop there

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this is somehow portrayed as a villainous action
      No it was the whole "I'm going to rule the world" thing afterwards that was the problem. He still could've come back from ventilating Joker, if any of his friends had actually been his friends and helped him with his grief.
      >Batman and Harley
      That's Harleywank. It's even worse in the prequel comic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can never get into Justice League shit. Superman sucks, and it isn't fun to be a Batman fan and seeing him go up against (and win) against retardedly powerful beings just because the writers need something that Superman can fight too. He's the definition of too powerful to be cool, and the writers keep writing in new sources of fucking Kryptonite just to cope with the fact that their lead hero sucks too much dick.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the writers keep writing in new sources of fucking Kryptonite
        This ain't the Silver Age anymore anon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would prefer multiple colors to just everyone having regular Kryptonite. It's just so hard to Hispanice up milquetoast. I'm just not the right audience for Superman, I can't wrap my head around why anyone would like him.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People used to like Supes because he was a goofy lighthearted character, now fanboys like him because they're brainwashed into thinking he's literally the greatest thing in all of humanity.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >People used to like Supes because
              Dude's 85 years old my man you're going to have to specify when the Superman you're talking about existed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whichever one I'm talking about it's certainly not the current one, kek. No one likes Superman genuinely anymore, they're all defensive hyperfans who get mad if you dislike him and when asked what they like about the character will go on some tangent on how he is an inspiration for humanity and you should just accept that he is, chud.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like Superman because he's so powerful, his stories tend to be about villains and obstacles he can't just punch away, which is far more interesting than big superpower fight scene #374637

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you retarded? Of all the things to complain about with the Arkham games. They're great partly because of how well they utilize the entire rogue gallery to craft the world and levels. Even some of the smaller and sillier ones have their cool and memorable moments to shine. Joker is just typically the agent of chaos that gets them all together.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no condiment king reference, not even in a hamburger stand or something
      They did my boy dirty

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He couldn't cut the mustard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They do a good job of letting everybody have some shine in Arkham Asylum (despite it still being Joker's show) and City.
      They completely dropped the ball in Origins though by having Joker hi-jack the plot and only really letting Bane have any of the remaining spotlight as an apology for fucking him up in Asylum.
      I never played Knight.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Knight does the same thing as Origins but even worse, Scarecrow feels like a secondary or tertiary antagonist and other villains set up in City like Hush and Azrael get wasted in side missions.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Origins almost did it right with Black Mask and one of the best depictions of Bane, but of course Joker had to be shoehorned in because we can't have a story without him.
    Don't get me started on tulpa Joker and his magic blood in Knight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im not super into movies and stuff so i dont know if people agree but a friend of mine says the worst thing to happen to batman movies was the Dark Knight cause it set people's expectations on what a batman villain is "supposed to be" and that trying to do another batman movie with a joker more akin to Jack Nicholson's would be almost impossible to pull off these days.

      Whichever one I'm talking about it's certainly not the current one, kek. No one likes Superman genuinely anymore, they're all defensive hyperfans who get mad if you dislike him and when asked what they like about the character will go on some tangent on how he is an inspiration for humanity and you should just accept that he is, chud.

      Hes just an institution for super heroes. Its just like McDonalds in that its probably the worst fast food but people order it anyway cause its always the same and always there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a fair take Nolan's movies did make people expect a darker tone and more realism from Batman stuff.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hes just an institution for super heroes.
        I know but that's why to non-fans it's hard to take people seriously when they demand you love a creatively bankrupt character just because "HE WAS THE OG, MAAAAN".

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >best villain never gets portrayed in modern batman media
    simon says go fuck yourself

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman has the best villains in all of media
    Batman is overrated.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Suicide Squad leaks are true then their obsession over Joker becomes even more ridiculous

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joker is pregnant in the latest comic btw

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