Battle For Azeroth was a better expansion than Shadowlands and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.
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Battle For Azeroth was a better expansion than Shadowlands and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.
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weird flex but ok
themes etc? yes
gameplay? no
who the frick plays WoW for the gameplay?
I do! Like 50%, maybe more.
Clear bait.
corruptions were way more fun than any of this end game shit they have going
It was a slot machine crap wf raiders spended money to get the gear to beat nya m+
corruptions should've just been trinkets but they needed a 12th level of gear rng, fricking cancerous system that creeped dps 10x in one patch
>this 1.5/10 expac is better than that 1/10 expac
BFA started off dogshit, but ended being pretty fun.
Shadowlands started off lukewarm and ended lukewarm.
Key difference is that, unlike legion or BFA, shadowlands doesn't have the over-the-top final tier scaling where everyone is doing stupid numbers. Legion's double legendary and fully unlocked artifacts, as well as BFA's corruption gear and essences, basically turned even the most casual player into a steamroller. All shadowlands is getting for its final season is an ilvl bump and the privilege to run old content.
>Legion's double legendary and fully unlocked artifacts
Came in EN
Also Shadowlands got moronic tier in the last patch with some specs like destro and survival just tripling their damage from it
Thanks for putting into words what I felt was missing from Shadowlands. Just even more proof of how fricking shitty that expansion it is.
Wrath > TBC > Vanilla > Warlords > Shadowlands > Battle > Cataclysm > Legion > Pandaria
Bait
Refute it. You can't.
Cope.
Definitely bait. I refuse to believe someone's taste is this bad. Here's a (You) for getting me to respond.
I came back in to play modern WoW after giving Classic a go (haven't played since Cata) and goddamn what is going on with the class system? Every class kind of plays the same
dragonflight will fix every gameplay/system/progression complaint from legion + bfa + shadowlands, i don't see how it can fail
because people dont really care about the systems
see: everyone praising legion which had RNG shit legendaries and AP but crying about the same thing in BFA
more like half of people only remember the first patch because they unsub after that, the other half only remember the last patch, making it impossible for these two groups to come to consensus
Yes they do. They complain because 99% of the system they add are initially horseshit, and are either made good after the fact (M+, Legion Legendaries) or are just deleted from the game (Azerite gear, domination sockets). People praise legion for legendaries because they're basing it off their experience post-tomb when acquisition was largely fixed, or praise AP because at that point you got 10 trillion for just sneezing. BFA gets shit on for AP because they completely reverted on its acquisition, and also tied it to something that was significantly less interesting or fun than an artifact weapon.
you can pretty easily go to wowhead and filter comments by 7.x and see everyone b***hing constantly, mostly about time gates
wowhead comments are a worse barometer for community opinion than even Ganker. Imagine the type of subhuman that would create an account on that website in order to then comment on posts, and then ask yourself if you'd trust such an entity's views on anything.
>People praise legion for legendaries because they're basing it off their experience post-tomb when acquisition was largely fixed
It wasnt even touched until 7.3.5
Tomb was when you gambled on broken shore items then hated yourself if you did other content and reset your bad luck protection early for some shit legendary
>or praise AP because at that point you got 10 trillion for just sneezing. BFA gets shit on for AP because they completely reverted on its acquisition
They changed it from amping up the AP gained to lowering the cost to level, functionally the same without the d3-tier number inflation that players literally complained about
And end of BFA had targetable essecnes (they were always targetable actually), Azerite and Corruption yet doesnt get the pass Legion did that even at the end had pure RNG for the NLC
There is exactly 0 consistency in the complaints
Legion gets a pass because the rest of the game was enjoyable: good raids, M+ being a brand new gameplay loop, a narrative that at least scored points because it was just nostalgia wanking, etc. People were willing to look past the initial shitfest because actually playing the game was fun. BFA's early additions that weren't just brought over from legion, islands, battelfronts, azerite gear, sucked so much ass they were basically ignored or replaced by the first patch
>good raids
EN, ToV and ToS were all awful. Antorous was aggressively mediocre
>M+ being a brand new gameplay loop
CMs but we overtuned the rewards
>a narrative that at least scored points because it was just nostalgia wanking
This is just a roundabout way of saying anyone defending legion is 60 IQ
>islands, battelfronts, azerite gear, sucked so much ass they were basically ignored or replaced by the first patch
All of those continued to see updates. We got a 2nd warfront, heroic warfronts, azerite gear got expanded and remained core, new islands were added and new rewards to islands were added
Path 8.3 with buyable corruptions was actually really nice, I never had so much fun in WoW as when I maxed out stats with corruptions on all pieces of gear, felt like cheating. I could literally carry epic bg by myself and end up with 200+ killing blows.
Have we gotten far enough away from BFA that we are saying it was "good" now?
Nah better than shadowlands doesn't mean good.
WoW hasn't been good since Cataclysm, change my mind.
MoP was actually great. The pandas were dumb but Mists was super fun.
>playing retail
What the frick?
The only correct expansion ranking.
Any predictions where Dragonflight will end up?
>RNG shit expansion GOOD
>RNG shit expansion 2 BAD
legiongays need a bullet in their skull
Youve never had a single independent thought in your life so its not like you would lose anything
frick off raidshitter, only minmaxers whined about rng in legion, and everything else about that expansion was great
>terrible story
>piss easy open world
>every single post launch dungeon just terrible for m+
>DH single handedly killing PvP
>terrible story
At least it felt like Warcraft, unlike BFA and SL.
>piss easy open world
Who cares about open world difficulty? Are you some kind of casual solo player that only does dailies and world quests?
>every single post launch dungeon just terrible for m+
Yes, but post launch dungeons being bad is pretty much norm in every expansion.
>DH single handedly killing PvP
Tell me you're sub-1400 shitter without telling me you're sub-1400 shitter.
>At least it felt like Warcraft, unlike BFA
Hop on the spaceship lets fly to the Pantheon felt more like warcraft than alliance vs horde and naga?
Lmao, take Illidans wiener out of your mouth
>Who cares about open world difficulty?
Anyone with a pulse
>but post launch dungeons being bad is pretty much norm in every expansion.
Nobody avoided mechagon keys like the plague whereas Seat was a hard brick
>Tell me you're sub-1400 shitter without telling me you're sub-1400 shitter.
DH were the definition of unfun to fight in any form of pvp and outright killed the RBG scene moron
>he didn't get his BiS legendary in first week
lmao were you even trying? how does it feel to be so bad at the game?
and your 2nd legendary and 4 more for your other specs?
>Any predictions where Dragonflight will end up?
F?
between doing islands and torghast....
i honestly couldn't tell you what is worse, torghast at least had effort put into it though
I literally don't even remember this expansion being released
Blizzard took all the wrong lessons from Legion which is why BFA was shit. Shadowlands was an attempt to fix the issue without actually listening to the playerbase(covenants, soulbinds, etc) but a atrocious failure. Dragonflight looks like it's another attempt to fix the issue, if they fail again it's over.
neither covenants nor soulbinds were actual issues
nobody fricking changes them even now
Dragonflight is unironically exactly what the game needs right now: some fanservice to keep the casuals placated while they unfrick the core systems by rolling all the various borrowed power shit into the talent trees instead of having it be borrowed power.
As long as the talent trees and the raids end up being good it's on track for being one of the best expansions.
>it's on track for being one of the best expansions
lol
lmao
what the frick am I reading
kys furry
yep, i like the new direction wow is going with its furry art team and pronouns and body types
So it was worse than garbage?
I believe it.
everything past wotlk was garbage and even tbc was garbage cause it added flying mounts and wotlk was garbage cause it started to dumb down stats and added heirlooms and rdf and heroic dungeons were way too easy and even classic was garbage because the classes were boring and stuff