Bayonetta 3 is GOTY

Sorry Elden Ring, I had way more fun with mommy

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no you didn't

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes I did
      bayo3 had way more amazing bits
      better bosses, better music, better gameplay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are all straight here

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is the moment videogames surpassed all other entertainment mediums

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This gave me a giantess fetish

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          welcome to the winning team. Your reward is dread when you realize you can never have your fetish

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Butterfly is so fucking perfect. She is best girl and 3 confirmed it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Definitely the best demon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        /d/'s face when

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cutscene
        >has 0 gameplay in it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's what a cutscene is you absolute buffoon

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why is it in a video game, a Nintendo exclusive no less? This isn't a visual novel, and it definitely shouldn't be in a product that people consider GOTY.

            I mean, if the fans were disgusted at the sight of this scene and were like "yeah it's horrible, but if you skip it then the game is better" then I'd understand. But people actually praise it like it's a good thing. It's like talking about a snoy movie and then saying that the cutscenes make it better. Any gameplay enthusiast would be rightfully confused by such a notion.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >replying to ACfag
            newfag

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So...this is basically GoW for weebs right? A mediocre movie game but because it's Japanese trash it doesn't have the mass appeal of a real movie game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, it has actual gameplay and you don't walk behind talking NPCs for 15 minutes

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People are posting webms of "real gameplay" and it doesn't exactly look good

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I remember when GoW had gameplay, cool shit like the PS2 games had, when you drill the fucking scylla. Bayonetta has cool shit like that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >GOW
                >ever having gameplay
                Mate, the games were nothing but button mashing simulators and walking down hallways. The "drilling scylla" bit was a glorified QTE.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As a kid I loved that shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't.... isn't bayonetta literally known for you mashing qtes during cutscenes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The real GoW game now

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >People are posting webms
              *Person

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >So...this is basically GoW for weebs right?
          No. It's Devil May Cry for Gankerggots, campy b-movie lovers, and BDSM and femdom fetishists.
          The game may be Japanese but it's got about as much weeb appeal as something like Resident Evil or Metal Gear. The kind of game where the Japanese devs expect it to be played in English because it makes no sense for anyone to be speaking Japanese in the context of the story. Hell the first game didn't even have Japanese audio until Nintendo forced them to add it as an option in the rerelease.
          A Japanese game that doesn't even want to utilize Japanese voices and basically tells the player they're wrong for playing in Japanese with English subtitles is the most anti-weeb thing I can think of.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is casualized movieshit that even Lady Gaga could play the game (go google it). If you want recent challenging Japanese action kino, play Nioh & Nioh 2 instead.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Lady Gaga
            Stop shilling that cunt in every thread

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ain't that the fish woman from wonderful101?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The cougar?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The giant blue fish lady with the big booba. Very similar design and entrance.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah. The old hag cougar.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a pompom headed little shit!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a pompom headed little shit!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        /d/ would have a field day with this fucking game

        >giantess
        >demon girls
        >monster girls
        >furries

        That's just the obvious ones, there's gotta be dozens

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One for each weapon
          I'm having fun with kraken-chan, the most /d/ of all

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is cool for the spectacle but it wasn't that fun to actually play. A lot of those Kaiju fights felt like streamer bait, they're cool to watch but not that fun to play.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They aren't the actual bossfight, that comes before the kaiju
          The gimmicky kaiju fights are like a victory lap, many keks were had

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine she made you rub her feet haha

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tits too small

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tendies couldnt even play elden eing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tendies don't know it exists, let's be real

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got every achievement in it
        but the game is just one note over and over
        while bayo gives you a full symphony to enjoy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What an odd analogy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Snoys couldn't even play Bayo3

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mfw using a 3rd party USB to play Bayo 3 and other Switch games with my Dualshock 4
          I'm no idort as I've never owned an Xbox but I still think console warring is retarded.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't mind the gimmick fights this time around, they were all quite good
    Baal Zebul > Queen Butterfly > Phantom tag-team > Sin Gomorah

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf, shin gommorah is the best of the megademons

      There's gonna be some manner of respite after I take out 2 health bars right? they can't seriously expect me to destroy all 4 as is can they

      I shouldn't have blown fairy form earlier in the level

      I loled when I realised what they were doing with the paris level and luka, and I liked the wine bottles they had everywhere, nice touch platinum

      use lollipops if you getting damaged too much by luka, there's a much more fierce fight against him later on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I think I might swallow my pride and use an item
        I fell like I wasted the 3 witch hearts I used on bayo she really doesn't need them for me like Viola does.

        I wanna keep trying a few more times to see if I can at least get to 2 health bars down item free

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1's levels are paced well even if there's some awful camera or annoying arena gimmick or dumb backtrack Verse or hidden Alfheim, and 1's enemy roster is still the best overall (despite 3 having the largest as some of the new ones are meh and most of the Angels & Demons aren't built with Slave in mind).

          I do think 3 has the best weapons and boss roster for sure, and 1 doesn't really have alternate characters besides Jeanne and the joke character while I actually do like Viola's gameplay (although 2 has Rosa usable in the whole game and a couple more fun characters in Tag Climax so it wins in that metric). The thing is that 3's levels are quite long, especially if you haven't gotten all collectibles in them yet and need to look, with a lot of space from Verse to Verse, and possibly the largest number of Verses that are going to hard to Pure Plat due to skills outside of the core combat. I think the Kaiju fights are fun but trying to do them fast with no damage would make me dislike them if I was going for that.

          I have to say 1=3>2 even though I have the most fun playing 3 overall. 1 just feels more "pure" in its action and it's on systems that don't have issues running it while having better fidelity. Also, I don't know if Sai-Fung's unlock condition or Sarborough/LiB's unlock condition in 3 is worse.

          [...]
          Items don't hurt your Verse anymore but you'll obviously be tanking it anyway with a Bronze or Stone for Damage. You just get a Chapter-end bonus if you don't use any items.

          I ended up managing to do it without items anyway when I suddenly got much better at blocking.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sin gomorrah sucks if i wanna play a godzilla a game i play a godzilla game and in fact that summon is a pitbull always wanting to backbite the owner

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there's a much more fierce fight against him later on
        I just did it, used the miniguns with the train demon and the accessory that makes summoned demons control themselves, at first I was trying to do the same but with Madama butterfly instead.

        I can really see why they don't give you that accessory until the game is nearly over, or at least I assume it's nearly over but then there's still a lot of space on the map.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be clear I was mostly shooting with Tartarus, not hitting

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >using items

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's gonna be some manner of respite after I take out 2 health bars right? they can't seriously expect me to destroy all 4 as is can they

    I shouldn't have blown fairy form earlier in the level

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bayo 3 is the most fun game in the trilogy but 1 is still the best designed overall, which is kind of sad since there's some really shit level design in 1 at times.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I only really like the final battle and bosses from 1
      the levels all felt and looked crappy in 1

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1's levels are paced well even if there's some awful camera or annoying arena gimmick or dumb backtrack Verse or hidden Alfheim, and 1's enemy roster is still the best overall (despite 3 having the largest as some of the new ones are meh and most of the Angels & Demons aren't built with Slave in mind).

        I do think 3 has the best weapons and boss roster for sure, and 1 doesn't really have alternate characters besides Jeanne and the joke character while I actually do like Viola's gameplay (although 2 has Rosa usable in the whole game and a couple more fun characters in Tag Climax so it wins in that metric). The thing is that 3's levels are quite long, especially if you haven't gotten all collectibles in them yet and need to look, with a lot of space from Verse to Verse, and possibly the largest number of Verses that are going to hard to Pure Plat due to skills outside of the core combat. I think the Kaiju fights are fun but trying to do them fast with no damage would make me dislike them if I was going for that.

        I have to say 1=3>2 even though I have the most fun playing 3 overall. 1 just feels more "pure" in its action and it's on systems that don't have issues running it while having better fidelity. Also, I don't know if Sai-Fung's unlock condition or Sarborough/LiB's unlock condition in 3 is worse.

        Yeah I think I might swallow my pride and use an item
        I fell like I wasted the 3 witch hearts I used on bayo she really doesn't need them for me like Viola does.

        I wanna keep trying a few more times to see if I can at least get to 2 health bars down item free

        Items don't hurt your Verse anymore but you'll obviously be tanking it anyway with a Bronze or Stone for Damage. You just get a Chapter-end bonus if you don't use any items.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >1's enemy roster is still the best overall (despite 3 having the largest as some of the new ones are meh and most of the Angels & Demons aren't built with Slave in mind).
          I thought 2 had the best enemy roster, because it was practically 1's roster, with a few new angels and now a set of demons

          3 has way too many homonculus, and I wanted the angels and demons to participate more in the story

          for bosses, 3 > 1 > 2

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you only count enemies added in the game, and only by gameplay and not visual design, 2 is the weakest. Too many enemies that refuse to interact with you outside of WT/UC, some lightning fast attacks after too-subtle queues, worse audio queues overall, an instant kill on a normal enemy. A few good demons, 1's Angels, and Enrapture carry most of it, although a couple other 2 Angels were fun.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I wanted the angels and demons to participate more in the story
            It was really surprising to me given the gravity of the situation Paradiso didn't send any help down for killing Singurality, wouldn't have surprised me if some unaffiliated demons showed up during the final fight as well

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Apparently he somehow sealed off most of Paradiso from Chaos world and they only break through in those golden portals in game

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Would have been cool if the bits where they did break though had the angels helping you fight the homunculus and then they can save the demon fights for post game
                There also really weren't enough demon fight spots in general

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Seal off Paradiso
                >Don't seal off Inferno despite the biggest threat to your plan being an Umbra Witch
                why

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure they were both sealed off, the umbra could just overcome it to summon them anyway, there's a couple spots where they've broken through like the angels.

                I think the sealing was kind of a side effect anyway

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there's a couple spots where they've broken through like the angels.
                Damn I haven't found a single one. All the demons I have fought were in the umbran tear missions and witch trials.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure there's a lot less of them then angel spots so I'm not surprised, I only found 2

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Relegating so much stuff to the lore entries was a mistake

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lore entries aren't even Canon. The story is an afterthought

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sarborough/LiB's unlock condition in 3 is wors
          You get them for free basically if you have a Bayo 1 and Bayo 2 save file on your switch, how is that hard

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bayo 1 was released a million times and Wii U owners are rightfully jilted when their games get re-released because it further devalues their investment in the console so not all Wii U owners bought Bayo 2 again on Switch

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but people had to buy the game more than once for that unless they are newcomer secondaries

              Oh, right. I forgot people bought the WiiU because it seemed like such a bad decision. I just skipped it and got Bayo 1 for free when they ported Bayo 2 to a real system

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >got Bayo 1 for free
                it was 'free' on the wii u as well

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Huh.

                >forgot people bought the WiiU because it seemed like such a bad decision
                >t-they got to play all these games, heh what a bad decision

                Look man I don't know what to tell you but at no point in the WiiU's lifespan did it have enough games on it for me to want to buy it. Glad you had a good time though

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >forgot people bought the WiiU because it seemed like such a bad decision
                >t-they got to play all these games, heh what a bad decision

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but people had to buy the game more than once for that unless they are newcomer secondaries

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I only have the wiiu versions
            but I brought the special edition and didn't realize it came with special cases for the other 2 so now I find myself tempted to double dip, tripple dip in the case of bayo 1 since I have the PC version as well

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's breddy gud. Not sure if I put it above ER but it's a worthy successor to Bayo 1.

          I agree with this. Although I did like 3's levels, masquerade made me not mind the size.

          >Also, I don't know if Sai-Fung's unlock condition or Sarborough/LiB's unlock condition in 3 is worse.
          Depends on if you want to spend your money or your time I suppose. Or use cheats to hack them in

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree but if there's one thing 3 has over 1, it's the Alfheim placements. You have no idea how legitimately frustrating it was in 1 where you had to backtrack to very specific points in the map before the point of no return AND after specific verses to unlock an Alfheim sometimes. This made PP runs so unbearable at points because they pull this shit consistently and it was just frustrating. At least in 3 I thought most of the Alfheim placements were logical and actively encourages exploration.

      1 still had better Alfheim missions overall but god did that game have some of the worst backtracking if you really wanted to do all verses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ill never forget and hate kamiya at the torpedo minigame spin barrel roll dodge that fucks the screen and makes me wanna puke in 1 final levels

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fun game
      >shit weapons
      >retarded minigames in almost every fucking chapter
      >viola and her parry
      >Jeanne levels
      Delusional

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jeanne levels
        those were the one thing I really liked
        the last one got old and the motorcycle thing just doesn't fucking work, but I thought it was charming
        too bad about the rest of the game being about as charming as a toothless fork

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >motorcycle thing
          Once again a fucking motorcycle filtered me in a bayonetta game. How the fuck are you supposed to dodge spinning enemies????

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By dodging them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            use the buzzsaw

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>shit weapons
        what

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dunno anon. The weapons are the best they've ever been

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >best
            >everything is trash except guns from bayo1
            ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>shit weapons
        Every weapon has a niche and a pretty complete-feeling moveset once upgraded, and finding the synergies between a weapon and a Demon (both Winks and certain moves you can command a Demon to quickly do that will help your equipped weapon out) is interesting in a way that is at least on par with Hand/Foot synergies within a set in 1&2. By comparison, 1 has five variants on the same gun moveset while half of its interesting weapons are deep in the post-game due to the grind to get them, while 2 had more creativity but less depth than 1's arsenal. I don't want to disparage awesome weapons like Odette, Durga, Sai-Fung, Pillow Talk, Takemikazuchi, Chain Chomp, etc. but 3's lineup just has more weapons I like (on top of Demons, which I look at like a second weapon set) than the first two combined. 3 even has my favorite weapon from 2 in it. I wasn't certain about this until I started running Ribbit Libido + Tartarus + Clock Tower but I think that's my favorite weapon loadout in the series (but I would need to replay 1 to be sure)
        minigames in almost every fucking chapter
        This is a problem the whole trilogy has. When it wasn't a minigame in 1&2 it was a genuinely bad stretch of level design or a horrible boss. 3 might be the most long-winded to Pure Plat but most of its distractions are fun in the moment (MOST, some do suck).
        and her parry
        The parry is really the only complaint I have about Viola that isn't just "I want more options". It's oddly strict and inconsistent, and you can't even do it half the time if you're playing her properly so she needs MoMK. In a potential Bayo 4 she really needs to have the traditional dodge with the parry as just an option Cheshire has (as she would get more weapons).
        levels
        All I can say is I enjoyed them. You can tell that they just rolled what they had for the 3DS Jeanne spinoff Kamiya talked about wanting many years ago into Bayo 3, it even has its own staff roll.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it even has its own staff roll
          I really liked this, it was a nice touch

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it seems many people playing bayonetta 3 didn't understand the pyrocumulus fight and music was a reference to this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean that predates Dragonball but because she blasts him throught multiple rocky pillars [an iconic element of DBZ fights] AND does a full on kamehameha, I think it's DBZ, not that old Toku series but the answer is likely that DBZ is inspired by JTTW and that Monkey TV series.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and don't sperg on me. I know I said DBZ too many times. Pretend I put the Z in parentheses.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, but the music in that fight is definitely monkey magic in a blender
        I saw on many videos people thinking the music was inspired by db or "some old chinese film"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but the game is full of MCU/5th Element/Terminator references. It's a Dragonball reference and beyond that JTTW but nothing more.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The whole Bayos showing up for the final fight was lame onions and pointless

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes but there's more to it than that. The game is littered with it.

              >Spider-man everywhere
              >"Snap" reference
              >No Way Home/Endgame vibes
              >Captain America homage with the Yoyo

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >spiderman
                Luka has always had the grappling hook

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That pose is literally iconic to spider-man you fuckiong retard. Luka's voice actor also voice Spider-man in multiple things.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Japan Spider-Man was a toku hero that piloted a mech retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a moron if you think Supaidahman is the main way Japs think about Spider-man.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My bad for not watching capeshit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair the spider masquerade shot webs from its wrist at least once.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was actually Bayokino

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Baysoy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It didn't do anything to make the story more understandable, but it made me grin. It was fun.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >5th Element
            which bit was that?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Baal Zebul opera

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's just the Siren Song legend retard

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The DBZ reference was Butterfly & Gomorrah doing Father-Son Kamehameha for no reason in 14-1.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There's two references. The fight is MOSTLY a JTTW ref but the theme BECAUSE of the kamehameha is also a DB ref

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I need a webm of the kamehame

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's best on YT because we can't have sound and she LITERALLY pretty much even vocalized the fucking same way Goku does, saying the whole name.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what? I've seen webms with sound

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                on /wsg/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                on any non gif/webm oriented board, they disable sound so people don't just do screamers all day.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How the hell did a miss that

                what? I've seen webms with sound

                Because you have the external sounds extension installed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mokey Magic is just 1 of many renditions of Journey to the West published in the 1500's.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't it funny that about 2-3 months ago, everyone was thinking platinum was dead

    and now they've reclaimed their crown with flying colors

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People seem to forget that platinum has always put out low-effort dogshit next to their actual high-effort games. Remember their dogshit licensed legend of korra and TMNT games?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those were smart on their part at least. Activision contracted them for 3 games, and they threw their young and inexperienced talent in major roles on 2 of them to get the money. Then Devastation got a bunch of veteran staff just because they volunteered out of love for the IP, which is why it's actually their most fun game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Activision contracted them for 3 games, and they threw their young and inexperienced talent in major roles on 2 of them to get the money.
          That's pretty good way to earn exp and level up your noobie staff members for things they actually care about

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty crazy that each Bayo has a different Director and Game Design Lead from the others.

      Babylon's Fall is still probably the worst game from a major publisher this year, but Bayo 3 is a Top 5 game the year if not Top 3. Hell of a rebound. It's a shame though, Babylon had a ton of potential and the right director but it still just shit itself harder than anything I've ever seen. I gave that demo a more-than-fair 3 hours and I felt entitled to a refund for a game I never bought.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chocobo GP was a worse offender because it promised to be a game and was backed by a franchise. Babylon always had the look of a live service app.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Babylon's Fall is still probably the worst game from a major publisher this year
        You're forgetting scarlet and violet

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pokemon's battle system that has been iterated on for decades is more interesting than Babylon's pretty mindless combat with one gimmick that's just a shittier version of Multi-Unite, even if all the dressing around it in 3D Pokemon games is poor.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pokemon's battle system that has been iterated on for decades
            LMAO, the battle system hasn't gotten any better since Gen 5 made a few improvements and triple battles were interesting. After that, nothing but gimmicks and not even fun gimmicks like Bayo 3 has.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but once you do JRPG combat once you've done it all

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >game developer puts out rough product used to hone junior talent skills and experiment with new ideas
      >"ITS FUCKING OVER RIP MYFAVEGAMEDEV"
      >game developer puts out flagship title #832178
      >I FUCKING TOLD YOU gayS MYFAVEGAMESTUDIO UNDISPUTED KINGS WE ARE SO BACK BROS
      its okay though once you start understanding that Ganker's userbase mean age is about 13 you get why no one understands or recognizes these kinds of development patterns

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        some people thought astral chain wasnt as good
        platinum lost some key people in the last few years
        they were totally silent on bayo3 and everything else
        people were worried, rightfully so
        but now we know kamiya was right after all and that everything was ok

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they've reclaimed their crown with flying colors
      I wouldn't say that. Bayo 3 is still the worst in the trilogy. And if it's not a trainwreck, it's still a major disappointment,

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never at any point thought Platinum was dead. Everyone going on about it was a moron. It's only been three fucking years since Astral Chain. Yeah, that's a lower output than they often used to have, with games yearly, but in that time they also made Babylon, worked on Granblue, self-published W101, made Sol Cresta, made World of Demons, etc. etc. It's a faster cadence than most developers achieve.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but they didn't even show anything new at e3 or tgs
        meanwhile they kept losing people to the new RE3 capcom studio

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Babylons Fall is a pretty fucking bad look for the company. Bayonetta 3 is more like they still have some semblance of their past selves there, even if Bayo 3s story is some fever dream shit they still know how to do good gameplay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With Square forcing it to be live service shit I don't think there was ever any chance of that game being good.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Babylons Fall
          You can't blame Platinum for Square's typical incompetency.

          As much as I do hate modern Square and loved old platinum the live service shit was all Platinum. They're the ones who pitched it to square so they could get funded and they're the ones who established a studio in tokyo for live service games.
          Platinum was actually so incompetent they did not advertise the live serivce aspects first which lead to people being dissapoined whe it was and they're super fucking incompetent for making that first trailer the looks like a really good single player game only for them to later realize, 'oh shit we can't make all these systems work like this better simplify to braindead babby tier shit' or atleast that's what I assume because that first trailer had some fucking good looking combat and movement before they fucked it all up. All of babylons Fall development seemed like Platinum DID NOT know how the fuck to make a live service game and their only reference was literal mobile games.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I really hope this shit makes them never attempt one again. If Project GG has any live service shit I'm out.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I get why they want a live service game.
              They've been constantly teetering between having the studio shut down for years, that's why they were "guns for hire" for so long and doing licensed shit.
              They need the ONE live service hit to keep their company afloat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't they have that one mobile game that does decent? They should just pump out low-effort mobileshit or just make a gacha at this point if they want constant passive income.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They should just make a genshin or honkai clone like everyone else.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                World of Demons? Yeah the game is good but nobody uses Apple Arcade.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the live service shit was all Platinum
            No it wasn't. Platinum wasn't even going to maintain the game as Live Service, Square did.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was gay, it was Platinums idea first.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Babylons Fall
        You can't blame Platinum for Square's typical incompetency.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          when it's the only thing they showed at e3 and tgs for 2 years, you had to wonder if everything else is in development hell

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bayonetta stories have always been lame

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you just spam yellow e-boipops in minigame sections?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pretty sure there's still an item penalty

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no item penalty. You can spam as much you want but you won't get the "No Item" bonus which awards you with more seeds. Only the first Bayo penalizes you for items.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Using items drops your combo iirc so there's still technically a penalty

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no combo in Gommorah fights or Gomorrah skating sections tho

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying performance/score matters during the gomorrah slide
              Who fucking cares? Once you memorize the handful of direction inpouts needed to perfectly dodge the obstacles, the section is not skill.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Baal zebul is ma waifu.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't stop listening to it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >extra arms doing Buddha arm gestures
      Kino

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >here's the bait so pls pls pls talk about the game! The threads are already dying here!
    And yet this board seethes at journos and their clickbaits. Btw shit game no one cares go to Plebbit if you want a hugbox.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually forgot about the meandering fever-dream of non-writing that was Elden Ring until this thread.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ what the fuck were they thinking with the chapter 9 boss fight by having a time limit? I fucking hate that shit. How many more chapters are left after chapter 9? I want to finish this game ASAP.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spiderbro overheats, please undastandu

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the fight is easy, stop crying

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just finishing Bayo2 (emulated the WiiU version with the open source Cemu 2.x and its phenomenal!) and I'm eager to give 3 a try when the emulators are ready for it. Does 3 have a "Rodin The Infinite One / Platinum Ticket" style fight and are there special unlockable characters etc. 2 also had a nice "lost trials" after-completion mission system and all the various Tag Climax challenges where you can even unlock playing as a handful of special characters, both in the main campaign and the side stuff. 2 also did a really neat explanation both to show the whole witch wars/purge, showcased Vigrid back in the day, you got to see Baldr wasn't a bad guy and, as proven by many a Japanese game, kill god when he acts like a dick. It even sets up the truth of what happened in Bayo1 and why Baldr went bad etc. Hopefully 3 does all this justice

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes to all
      Not much on the witches but you get the umbran clock tower as a summon
      Nothing on Balder

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the super mirror you unlock for purchase after you finish the egypt levels egypt jeannes outfit or egypt bayos outfit? I don't know why you don't get a preview

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why the FUCK would you unlock a Jeanne costume?

      >5th Element
      which bit was that?

      Baal Zebul's song is the same song as the Alien Opera singer [Lucia Di Lammermoor] but both are delivered with the 90's pop diva Britney Spears E-Piano backing and sung in an otherworldly way/editted to be inhuman. There's even specific beats of the song in the EN version sung to be evocative of the movie's take.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ah I remember now

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lmao
    https://streamable.com/kgmttr

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >being so shit at the game you can't fight Valiance with your bare hands
      I can understand using the tower to cheese Rodin, but come on man. You're embarrassing yourself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post your nsic clip

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can't i don't own a tv so I only play in handheld

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Damn bro, can't you find a 720p screen on the street?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Uh...anon you know the switch can record 30 second game clips right?

              This is the fakest excuse I've ever seen in my life
              >I don't own a tv
              Like... in what world would you ever think this is a convincing lie

              Crapped out on me last year, can't afford a new one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally can walk around and find them on the street
                Or for 20 bucks used on gumtree

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Send me one, I don't like watching my shows on my phone

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd try a swap meet or garage sale, monitors aren't hard to come by

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why lie just admit you're dogshit and retarded

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >haha you're so bad dude
                >ok post your infinite climax fights
                >uhhh I can't because.... BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD A TV
                >but there's a built in record button in the swi-
                >I CAN'T AFFORD A TV OKAY

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Uh...anon you know the switch can record 30 second game clips right?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is the fakest excuse I've ever seen in my life
            >I don't own a tv
            Like... in what world would you ever think this is a convincing lie

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't own a tv either, I gave it away 6 months ago to save space. I have a computer, a phone, a laptop for watching movies (about once a fortnight), and a Switch for gaming (although I think I will quit videogames again).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of posting the clocktower cheese done badly? I don't even know what emotion you're conveying in your post.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >52 replies
    >16 posters

    Lol shills getting desperate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      N-NO BRO IT'S TOTALLY GAME OF THE YEAR WE'RE NOT TENDIE SHILLS WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOOOOOT
      >41k sales
      G-GAME OF THE YEAR FOR SURE BEST GAME EVER

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >still using that old japan physical only number which still beat 2 and AC
        What motivates to piss and shit everywhere?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Please understand, Tendietoddlers' brains are still underdeveloped and immature, that's why they piss and shit everywhere like babies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >G-GAME OF THE YEAR FOR SURE BEST GAME EVER
        it's not about sales, it's about quality
        undoubtedbly, elden ring is going to win GOTY at TGA simply due to popularity/hype
        but bayo3 is undeniably the better game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >QTE movieshit with press 1 button to awesome gameplay
          >better
          It's not even a proper game and yet you're claiming that it's the """""game""""" of the year. What a fucking retard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it is goty for this sequence alone, deal with it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it's GOTY because of movie!
              Yes yes I understand.

              N-NO BRO IT'S TOTALLY GAME OF THE YEAR WE'RE NOT TENDIE SHILLS WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOOOOOT
              >41k sales
              G-GAME OF THE YEAR FOR SURE BEST GAME EVER

              >cinematic slowdowns between attack just because
              >intrusive attack cutscenes that break the flow of the combat
              >the enemy just stands there like a dumb brick while player cinematically wails on it
              >you get an A++++ for styling on a helpless training dummy!
              Wow, I feel so accomplished! I'm glad for not falling for this shit. I can see why journos love its easy difficulty so much.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ummm...chuddie? It's game of the year

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                0 trains in elden ring
                bayo3 wins by default

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He's here

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the enemy just stands there like a dumb brick while player cinematically wails on it
                This isn't DMC.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DMC5 enemies are so much more agressive than Bayonetta it's not even funny.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nintènyearolds are deranged, do not engage them

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >QTE movieshit with press 1 button to awesome gameplay
            ?????

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but bayo3 is undeniably the better game
          It's also the more unique game by a mile.
          Elden Ring is just Dark Souls but kind of worse overall.
          Bayo 3 is its own beast to the point it alienates some Bayo 1 fags, but is often considered better than Bayo 2 anyway, a game which is just the first game but worse.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Elden Ring is a game. Bayo 3 is goyslop

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              elden ring doesn't even have 1 good song in it
              all the npcs are retards

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh bideogame music
                tendietoddlers are something else

                >goyslop
                I'm a literal third positionist fascist and I think this meme you are using is retarded anon.

                >I'm literally [retarded zogbot position]
                Yeah, I know

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >zogbot
                Time to get off 4chan bud, it is rotting your brain.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >goyslop
              I'm a literal third positionist fascist and I think this meme you are using is retarded anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ummm...chuddie? It's game of the year

        YAAAAASSSS SUCH UNIQUE AND EXCITING GAMEPLAY

        YAAAAASSSS SUCH UNIQUE AND EXCITING GAMEPLAY

        This has gone way, way beyond the point of merely being sad.
        https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/infinite%20climax%20btw.webm/
        https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/filename/pure%20platinum%20gameplay.webm/
        /
        https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/RDCxvbLWuQPQ6bYVuzA2Pg/

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He does it for free
          FOR FREE

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >last webm was only posted twice
          Imagine being so asshurt that people are buying the game, playing it, proving it's dogshit and posting proof of it.
          And because you're such a blind fanboy you can't process that fact so you have a meltie and do this lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm still wondering why people call me a chud for saying that the game isn't that good. It it because I'm not blindly praising it?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because tendie fanboys are more insane than blizzard drones. They eat shit gear after year, screech you down if you dissent and then the industry gets worse every year. Because of them. Platinum makes worse games every year
              This willingness to just abide straight up bad games is literally immoral

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stop, you can't just shatter his schizo fantasy, he'll kill himself

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mods, get in here and take out this trash please and thank you

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >get btfo
              >call for mods
              Certified Reddit moment

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                HAHAHAHAHA
                Where do you thinnk you are lmao

                embarrassing, 3chuds really are tourists

                Get these trouble makers too

                This dude is notorious and has been doing this for years. Bans obviously don't work, but it's helpful to be able to recognize him so he can be ignored.

                Yeah, he's easily recognizable with his terrible bait and trolling bullshit but I wish they could get rid of him for good

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                HAHAHAHAHAHA gay
                tHIS ISN'T

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This dude is notorious and has been doing this for years. Bans obviously don't work, but it's helpful to be able to recognize him so he can be ignored.

                this bro so fucking mindbroken he's trying to invent a boogieman instead of admitting his favorite game is shit hahahahahaha

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit go back, fucking tourist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this is just sad, we actually just have a resident nintenschizo frothing at the mouth to defend bayo 3

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit go back, fucking tourist

                [...]
                this bro so fucking mindbroken he's trying to invent a boogieman instead of admitting his favorite game is shit hahahahahaha

                HAHAHAHAHAHA gay
                tHIS ISN'T

                I've been a Ganker member since 2016, I've probably got at least 5 years on you assholes. @Mods

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO @gay
                Show us your Ganker gold card.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              HAHAHAHAHA
              Where do you thinnk you are lmao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This dude is notorious and has been doing this for years. Bans obviously don't work, but it's helpful to be able to recognize him so he can be ignored.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              embarrassing, 3chuds really are tourists

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          YAAAAASSSS GO OFF KWEEEEN 10/10 GAMEPLAY

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You realize in all that time you could have easilly killed all 3 of those enemies 3 times over

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>41k sales
        41k sales is as much as Playstation versions of Cawadudy 29 sold combined, the only game to outperform it on its release week is Splatoon 3, with a 4 day headstart on the week

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just beat the wonderful 101 and I have no place to talk about it because threads for it always die
    why was there SO MANY SPACE HARRIER SECTIONS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kamiya used to cut class and spend all his money on trips to the arcade where Space Harrier was one of his favorite games.

      He's also an old school arcadefag which is why he thinks TRUE GAYMER CRED comes from cross genre capability.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no I get that
        and I'd be fine with just one
        but the finale uses like three of the same fucking sequence
        and this shit is spread all throughout the game too
        isla del sol doesn't have SHIT on this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. TW101 is even more Kamiya than Bayo 1. I think it's fun [btw it's not really space harrier, just general schmup shit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I actually like the isometric shmup way fucking better than space harrier
            and seriously the same fucking sequence is reused so many times at the end
            and then punch out is used twice
            there's even fucking starfox
            why can't kamiya do something besides a fucking shmup

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              shoot 'em ups are the Battle Royals or Modern Military Shooters or Undertale Clones or whatever you want of his childhood gaming era.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the 101 game isn't that good. Frankly, it's a miracle that despite everything, Bayo 3 is a fun game, more fun than most of the crap Platinum has ever made.
      Yes, the story is shit, yet the art direction is weird, yes the voice actress they used as a replacement is mediocre, and yet the game is still fun on replay by virtue of good design.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and yet the game is still fun on replay by virtue of good design
        you cannot be fucking saying this
        the gameplay is a joke compared to 1
        there's endless unskippable cutscenes and even walk and talk bullshit
        there's fucking terrible gimmicks in every chapter
        you can't keep skip opening the fucking chests so trying to explore for them all is a fucking nightmare

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there's fucking terrible gimmicks in every chapter
          No, all the gimmicks are actually fun this time. Another miracle for this franchise. Because that hack Kamiya didn't insert one of his terrible gimmicks in the game like Bayo 1 and 2 are full of and nobody could tell him no that sucks.
          It's almost like they had a real game designer this time who said,
          >Every gimmick needs to be enjoyable and not last too long, it needs to engage the audience.
          And they succeeded. Bravo.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >every gimmick needs to be fucking ugly, run at 30 fps, have you controlling a shitty clunky demon, and be totally unengaging in every way
            >also they need to be in every level and unskippable
            fuck off

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bayo3 is not designed for the mentally handicapped, sorry you didn't enjoy it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because git gud at my favorite arcade games gaijin

      Despite all of the mini-games W101 is still one of the best platnum games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why was there SO MANY SPACE HARRIER SECTIONS
      the theme song plays in his head 24 7

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i hate demon slave

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i hate demon slave
      Then don't use it retard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dont use the mechanic that the game wants you to use for combo points and breaking big enemy guards

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Demon slave is mandatory in 15ish instances during the whole game

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YAAAAASSSS SUCH UNIQUE AND EXCITING GAMEPLAY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You saved webms and are shitting up threads for free?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hahahaha oh my god I don't ever wanna hear people bitch about umbran climax again

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I'm gonna explain why umbran climax is worse just for you.
        >Design game to be like Bayo 1 in style except you have a big new mechanic.
        >The new mechanic requires you to change the way combat is scored, how much damage weaves etc. do and how much health enemies have among other things. The game now revolved around it in fact despite being like Bayo 1 on the surface.
        >Add a bunch of flashy but gimped combat sections where you fly around mindlessly just to show off your cool new super move.
        >Combat now sucks and the game isn't fun to replay.
        There you go champ.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You forgot gimped magic gain that renders everything but the shitty DT completely obsolete.
          >Why would you ever, throw out a raw weave or do a TA to dispose of/do heavy damage to one enemy, when you can just activate super mode and clear screen for the same magic cost.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This.
            The magic gain ruins everything. To prevent UC from being spammy, utterly broken shit - you gather magic at like ¼ the rate of Bayo1, but the cost for everything... just carried over.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              On the other hand you don't lose as much magic on taking at a hit as in 1, which was an improvement for sure

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >all this cope to defend a mechanic that's very clearly objectively worse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn that looks mondo keyed

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Jeanne summons Madama Styx
    >It's flat as she is
    What a double horrid tragedy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All her masquerades actually have no tits. Gteat attention to detail.

      looks and plays significantly worse than Bayonetta 2, which is also on the switch. The performance is also worse the moment you summon a demon.

      no it really is shit, even if Gankertards can't put it into words properly
      summons instantly take aggro and nullify any and every encounter
      the gameplay of Bayonetta takes a backseat to you baiting for Witchtime so your demon can do the job
      by far the strongest thing you can do is either the meme Baal song, or either Gomorrah or Bat laser moves while mindlessly mashing buttons
      no matter the difficulty, you can trivialize everything by using demons to the point where I actively stopped using them midway through because I noticed I wasn't fucking playing the game anymore
      LT>Down-Up-Y x2 with Gomorrah beats every boss in the game in 1 cycle, and in AoE situations you just Spider self-destruct or do the Gomorrah AoE laser
      once you unlock weapons that do a lot of damage from range like the Wand or the gatling gun you're on easy mode no matter what

      if you want to handicap yourself and ignore all those strats for score or style, simply summoning a demon and doing nothing will still stagger most enemies, and Bat dodge is functionally infinite and is extremely generous, so Bayonetta is extremely overpowered VS every enemy in the game to the point where it's never a challenge no matter what, even if you dont know what you're doing
      reminds me of KH3 where Sora just has so many options and fail-safe mechanics with iframes that no matter what you just can't lose in the base game (critical fixed it and it's extremely good, but too little too late)

      also if you switch to Bayo 1 or 2 costumes she doesn't get naked when summoning so you're stuck with the serial killer skirt made out of hair (seriously what the FUCK)
      game is censored to shit, where are the eternally stiff nips you fucking nips?

      She has the nips in her B1 costume but you haven't played the game so you wouldn't know

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >demon slave
    >can now summon demons at will (if there is room)
    And this is bad because she's dancing and can't attack? Pretty sure there is an amulet that lets you attack
    Umbran climax was waiting for the meter to fill then button mashing, nothing more

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And this is bad because she's dancing and can't attack?
      You can do demon slave inputs while doing offsets.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So Ganker just hates new things?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          looks and plays significantly worse than Bayonetta 2, which is also on the switch. The performance is also worse the moment you summon a demon.

          no it really is shit, even if Gankertards can't put it into words properly
          summons instantly take aggro and nullify any and every encounter
          the gameplay of Bayonetta takes a backseat to you baiting for Witchtime so your demon can do the job
          by far the strongest thing you can do is either the meme Baal song, or either Gomorrah or Bat laser moves while mindlessly mashing buttons
          no matter the difficulty, you can trivialize everything by using demons to the point where I actively stopped using them midway through because I noticed I wasn't fucking playing the game anymore
          LT>Down-Up-Y x2 with Gomorrah beats every boss in the game in 1 cycle, and in AoE situations you just Spider self-destruct or do the Gomorrah AoE laser
          once you unlock weapons that do a lot of damage from range like the Wand or the gatling gun you're on easy mode no matter what

          if you want to handicap yourself and ignore all those strats for score or style, simply summoning a demon and doing nothing will still stagger most enemies, and Bat dodge is functionally infinite and is extremely generous, so Bayonetta is extremely overpowered VS every enemy in the game to the point where it's never a challenge no matter what, even if you dont know what you're doing
          reminds me of KH3 where Sora just has so many options and fail-safe mechanics with iframes that no matter what you just can't lose in the base game (critical fixed it and it's extremely good, but too little too late)

          also if you switch to Bayo 1 or 2 costumes she doesn't get naked when summoning so you're stuck with the serial killer skirt made out of hair (seriously what the FUCK)
          game is censored to shit, where are the eternally stiff nips you fucking nips?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            didn't read, post your nsic platinums

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah bro I'm totally gonna go grind 10h of NSIC tower spamming just to make you happy
              lmfao
              lolmfao even, keep coping

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >game is too easy!
                >n-no I won't show my ranks!
                okay casual lol

                >Do you know how to dodge offset?
                yep, wouldnt have played Bayo 1 for literal hundreds of hours if I didnt. I have noticed that I do have trouble doing demon slave orders while offsetting so it looks like I have room for improvement.

                Thanks for the Viola webms, there are times where I feel like Im close to understanding her gameplan but then later chapters would humble me and leave me scratching my head on how to play her. Absolutely hate doing the Alfheims that revolve around Witch Time as Viola because her WT duration is so short.

                You can do demon slave orders through umbran spear offset as well which gives you a much bigger window to input. If you have trouble with viola parries just equip moon and practice those parries instead, you can do those with the sword thrown so they're more useful anyway.

                For other random weapon tips Abracadabra is probably the best weapon for just spamming projectiles at foes you can't get close too, also scarbourgh faire lets you get out two wink attacks if you offset the first wink attack during its old double wicked weave combo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >okay casual
                why would I go beyond casual at a game that just isn't competent?
                the game will never be challenging because Bayo just has too many get out of jail free cards, easy or NCID makes no difference in that regard

                So...this is basically GoW for weebs right? A mediocre movie game but because it's Japanese trash it doesn't have the mass appeal of a real movie game

                as shit as 3 is compared to 1 and 2, it's still an abyss beyond God of Snoy in terms of combat, and I platinum'd that piece of shit telltale game

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't read, I just mash buttons, change weapons and avoid getting hit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Careful, if you point out the game is censored the nintenschizo will show up and spam post the one climax that happens in the prologue before declaring he 'won'

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bloody Fate Bayonetta has Whittingham Fair
    >Viola's mom has Whittingham Fair

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No she doesn't what the fuck are you talking about? Bloody fate begins with Elfin Knight which breaks, then when she fights Jeanne the second time Rodin gives her Scarabarough Fair

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't help that I rewatched it and replayed 1, 2 and played 3 in the space of a week, it's all muddled

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After replaying I've come to appreciate the minigame sections more. Especially as over the top pop off after the actual boss fight. On the other hand platforming as a demon is fucking horrible. Those spider and Gomorrah sections suck.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone found any more sequence break stuff like pic related? I remember 2 had a couple areas you could completely skip

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any good resources out there for learning more about the combat? I've just beaten the game and I'm still so overwhelmed by all the options Bayonetta can do to the point I can never get a grasp as to what niches weapons or demon slaves cover. I've played so much of 1 and I love 3 but the new mechanics still feel so alien to me, still very fun to play around with though. I just need some pointers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you know how to dodge offset? Main thing with 3 is learning how to do demon slave orders while offsetting so you don't have to waste time stopping your combo.

      As for weapon niches just play around with them, yo-yos are great for sticking to enemies because kicks let you advance on them quickly while punches let you keep your distance, and the whip is always good for staying in the air forever if you ever need too.

      For viola see webm in this post

      Yes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Do you know how to dodge offset?
        yep, wouldnt have played Bayo 1 for literal hundreds of hours if I didnt. I have noticed that I do have trouble doing demon slave orders while offsetting so it looks like I have room for improvement.

        Thanks for the Viola webms, there are times where I feel like Im close to understanding her gameplan but then later chapters would humble me and leave me scratching my head on how to play her. Absolutely hate doing the Alfheims that revolve around Witch Time as Viola because her WT duration is so short.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The game is so new that is hard to know. Although a lot of the fun in these games is figuring things out for yourself.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >4. [NSW] Bayonetta 3 – 10,103 / 51,388

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And none of it is good

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anybody really think that the only way to pure platinum the game is with tower spam?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How's emulation? I see that it's playable on Ryujinx

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I finished it but the secret chapter can't be emulated since it's another nsp

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some particle effects are broken, and the post-game chapter is completely unplayable because it does a weird thing where it loads a completely different NSP

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol these bayohater tears are scrumptious, much better than coffee even. poor little haters, posting their terrible fake WEBMs and truly awful "opinions" on the game...lmao (as if us real fans would ever take that silly crap seriously at all lol) pathetic little virgin losers -3-

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man these threads are so shit, I can't believe it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is what happens when you have both ACfag and Eric samefagging and replying to themselves over and over, the power of nintendo exclusives making shitposters seethe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >power of nintendo
        I'm getting 60FPS on PC

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can't stand SNOYs pretending to be emulator anons just to start shit
          You don't even try to fit in either.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >SNOY
            I like games, not woke movies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Projection

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like it's mostly just Eric, not seeing that many of ACfag's tells. Possibly also the Bayo 2 autist and there's one DMCfag (though the guy who posts DMC could just be Eric again).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just play the game instead of arguing with shitposters.
      Honestly, you should learn to take note to avoid certain timezones by now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man these threads are so shit, I can't believe it

        >shills get called out
        >double down
        hilarious, didn't stop the game from selling like shit

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Need to dodge offset + dodge cancel to get this combo
    >But it’s inconsistent so I don’t know what I’m doing wrong
    Someone tell me the inputs and timing on how to pull this off consistently cause it feels really tight for me. I want to master this combat system.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It just looks like they're dodge offsetting the final hit of the punch combo then hitting kick, might be a pause combo though which is why timing is hard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah the moment I hit ZL she goes into that summon animation so it feels like there’s a frame-perfect window to dodge offset out of that into the kick. I wish it was easier cause no other weapon has a combo like that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Inputs are:

      PPPPP(mash until finisher) [P] LR ZR ]P[ K LR

      If you hold LR when you do wink, you can't dodge cancel the wink and have to sit through the entire animation. Be sure that you're just pressing it and then letting go.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I STAND
    AT YOUR GATE

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the only Viola gameplay that gets posted is the glitchy jump cancel that propels her into space
    LMAO
    at least Nero was tryhard cool, but this lanky zippertits has nothing going for her

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't even know what's going on because you don't know how to play.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but I finished the game on hard, so are you saying the game is so easy even a retard like me could finish it?
        or do I know how to play??
        which is it, zippertits?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't need anything advanced at all to finish the game on hard. The fact you appear to believe that's even an accomplishment is pretty telling as to your skill level. The game restarts you right at the same verse every time you die, you'd have to be a legitimate paraplegic to actually have trouble merely beating it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ok, so it's easy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Post a character action game you think is difficult to beat on the second-highest difficulty.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >character action
                nice made up, arbitrary category that only includes 3 games

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Feel free to extend that to action games in general, or action-adventure. Gonna wait for your answer.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sekiro all the way to Demon grandpa
                Bloodborne with DLCs
                NieR: Automata
                KH 2 and 3 on Critical (honorable mention KH1 Sephiroth)
                NMH3 isn't a great game but even that gave me more of a challenge (sadly the slot machine can just win you a boss fight and it ruined a couple for me)
                there's probably more

                this is the part where you blow an aneurysm while fuming red and go "Hah! Laughable display! You think THAT'S hard? Try hitting LT-RB 4 times on Baal, chuddie"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, this is the part where I laugh at you for not being able to read.
                >Post a character action game you think is difficult to beat on the second-highest difficulty.
                >second-highest difficulty
                moron you were *bragging* about beating bayo on fucking hard, not even IC, jesus christ

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn't bragging though
                that was my point
                the game is fucking easy, the summons invalidate the entire game and there can be no difficulty
                the enemies can do nothing to you

                >chuddie
                Bro you forgot to post your webm again

                not me but keep on schizing on

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's about as hard as any of the games you mentioned on second-highest difficulty for the games that actually have one, i.e. not hard.

                The point is more that you were a retard talking about those Viola webms because you don't actually have any idea what tech is being used, as said tech is strictly unnecessary to beat the game, so you only noticed the most blatantly obvious aspect. Beating a character action game is basic. It's not an accomplishment. Going for score is the next level, but still has repetitive strategies to cheese it in every game. The top level is simply playing the games to push yourself to be stylish for style's own sake because it's fun

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >m-muh fun
                Thanks for the concession, I'd suggest for you to mention wholesome and comfy and cute and funny and other buzzwords to save your non argument.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm noticing a distinct lack of actually addressing the points presented. Not that I particularly expected otherwise, we both know you're here purely to shitpost.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >chuddie
                Bro you forgot to post your webm again

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sekiro
                >hard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                like clockwork, red as can be, "LAUGHABLE DISPLAY" he seethes through his brown teeth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ieslb
                Run

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >KH 2 and 3 on Critical

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ooops wrong one

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ayup. If there's an action game so impeccably-balanced as to be devoid of cheese, I sure haven't played it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why do some of the hits do so much more damage than others?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >SEKIRO

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved this bit
    It was a complete reference to monkey magic which I used to watch as a kid, made me extremely nostalgic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like every piece of Chinese epic literature can be summed up with the phrase, "God Fucking Damn it Wukong what the fuck did you do this time?"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The parallel to greek mythology's "Goddammit Zeus what did you rape this time?"

        Speaking of mythologies where will bayo go after faeries in 4? They've already done Abrahamic angels/demons and buddhist-inspired enemies, wonder where they'll take it next.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lovecraftian Mythos

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aliens maybe
          Although that does raise the question was it only earths singurality was attacking, was he doing invasions on other planets at the same time, and if so did those planets have aliens on them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Couldn’t give a fuck about Chinese mythology but the Japanese show is kino

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man I wish Bayo could get comfy threads like DMC does

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair DMCV threads had a lot of falseflagging and shitposting in them before it mellowed out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DMC has something Bayo threads will never have that keeps their discussion alive: Fujos.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We need more Luka thirst posting

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's no other male character to pair him with other than Rodin but they barely interact so fujos don't care. We needed multiverse Luka interactions for fujos to start caring.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NOT FOR FUJOS REEEEEEEE

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We have Yurimorons instead, bringing along their aggressive brain fantasies with them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a fujo but the severe lack of hot guys makes it hard to fujopost here. So I just stick to thirstposting to my husbando Luka. Who is the cutest by the way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Never thought I'd be in the same side as a fujo
          >t. yumejoshi

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not her but Luka is a massive goofball and a jobber, what part of him triggers your yumejo side?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He cute

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also, can't be a bigger jobber than Jeanne.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's because while I'm not a yumejoshi I do have some husbandos on top of beinf a fujoshi. I just never self-insert in any of the characters of stories I like.

            Not her but Luka is a massive goofball and a jobber, what part of him triggers your yumejo side?

            A part of me wants to hug and kiss him, another part of me wants to bully him and step on his dick while he's pathetically crying. He's cute.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hate myself too much to self insert so I'm not really yumejoshi I guess, it's the closest term I know applies

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In my case it's not because of self-loathing, I just like characters to be relatable but still unique. The only characters I can somewhat self-insert in are silent JRPG protagonists I can somewhat customizd through dialog choices or their looks. And not even completely.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Need a new high-profile Nintendo release for Eric to move on to. Too bad he doesn't seem to care for pokemon.
      He'll probably switch to BotW2 as his primary focus next year.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This demon is sexier than all bayonettas and best summon that shitmorrah

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still kinda bummed we didn't get Lumen Sage Bayonetta.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lumen sages are all male

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then a Universe where its Balder instead of Bayonetta.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bring back Rosa
          >not Balder
          I wanted to see the Malkavian primogen David Bowie reee

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just in case people didn't know, because you have to check the move's description to know, Viola's gap closer where she runs deflects all attacks while she's running.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely useful during the kraken fight when facing just bayo, you run run and spam the move at her and she can't do much at all

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ.
      Whoever made this needs to learn perspective and foreshortening ASAP.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is what happens when you learn technicalities but completely ignore fundamentals.

        Vision, Theme, Aesthetic and flow > fundamentals
        any day

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pardon my autism, but not when her tiny, little malformed leg is distracting me from anything else and cannot be unseen.
          One NEEDS to learn anatomy and perspective, how a human body behaves in three dimensional space, BEFORE trying to stylize one's work. Otherwise we end up with technically sound, yet malformed abominations.
          A black and white pencil sketch that obeys anatomy and perspective, properly foreshortened in a dynamic pose, is a million times more appealing than fancily painted, digitally or otherwise, irradiated mutant taking a shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is what happens when you learn technicalities but completely ignore fundamentals.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bayonetta 3 is Platinum's DMC Devil May Cry.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bayo has the same problem as GOW THE FUCKIGN CAMERA JFC WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Change it to manual control if it bothers you so much, I actually didn't have many issues with 3's camera.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is that the enemies are simply too big and some the arenas are too small. Changing it to distance 4 is not enough.

        I think it's the first game where i had the camera legit fuck me up and i played a lot of 101 and GH

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Baal and Umbran clock tower completely break the game from a game design perspective to be honest

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Baal takes too long on higher difficulties and will get killed/enraged on actually difficult encounters, clock tower is pretty cheesy though (but will rape you if it ever gets enraged)

      Ultimate cheese is just doing Rodin's raging demon on everything though

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can cheese so many of witch trials level 3 with Baal. Rosa and French Bayo cant stop her so you can just sing 4 times while you dodge in a corner and get pure Platinum because she gets Platinum Combo somehow

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What does enraged clock tower do?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?tag=12

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah you probably don't wanna get hit by that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As mentioned, Baal often doesn't work that well.

      The clock tower is an actual exploit/programming oversight though, they forgot to make witch time end if you dismiss the demon to stop your meter from draining.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they forgot to make witch time end if you dismiss the demon to stop your meter from draining
        What? So if I call for the bell and dismiss it after the WT starts it's infinite? I was going for the bell and letting go of ZL immediately to make getting the damage buff on Ribbit easier during WT but that sounds busted to fuck if I'm reading you correctly.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So is Bayonetta 3 Platinum's biggest blunder?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *biggest wonder

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forgot to paste in my google image of wonder red with this post
        >2 other anons posted the exact same one
        kek

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wonder.

        Wonderful.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do I play Viewtiful Joe before W101?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, it's pretty short and I think it emulates well, but it isn't really connected to W101 at all, and their tones are completely different. But it's still a great game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't Poseman supposed to be an expy of Joe?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kinda, but he looks nothing like him, and once again W101's tone is completely different.

          It IS canon Wonder Pink knows Sylvia though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's better to play kamiya's games in order so you can see how he incorporates and refines things from game to game
      plus Joe is much shorter and much more digestible than w101
      I just finished the game and people weren't kidding about the entire first playthrough just being a tutorial

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't played through 3 yet since I'm going through first two games, so can't compare the two. I will say that brawlers are generally a better genre than the sub genre of soulslike because brawlers provide difficulty as a way to test the players mastery and is perfectly fine with the player being good enough to style on enemy even bosses. Soulslikes, on the other hand, is designed to get cheap kills on the player as a way to market the game.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was the cutscene skip shortcut again?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zr + select

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kys tendie

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >give Bayo a billion weapons and movesets
    >force you to play a third of the game with Viola who has only one and is way less polished than Bayo

    Feels like they just threw everything they could think of into the game, without realizing that sometimes less is more. Bayo 1 is still better, it more focus and way tighter design because of this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Viola gets 3 levels

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A quarter then. In some ways that is worse since that gives you less time to learn her. I sucked hard with Viola because she differs so much. The whole guard offset isn't as intuitive, and the TW trial was just a huge pain with her. You suddenly realize that enemies actually just miss quite often, failing to trigger WT.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah the viola witch time challenges are fucked I think they are the only ones I got filtered on
          then they give you a viola no witch time challenge (the one where you have bayo as an ally as well) that is probably the easiest one in the game yet that one gives you an entire witches heart instead of a witches heart piece like most of them

          now that I type this I realize that's probably intentional to give people that struggled with the challenges a bit of an upgrade

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And they're long as hell and bayo chapters get constantly interrupted by gimmicks and objectively bad enemy design

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God I'm either a shitter or do I get off-screen attacked a LOT? With all the shit happening on screen I can neither see nor hear the cues that something's gonna sucker punch me from a mile away. I'd reduce the clutter if I don't use Demon Slave, but I don't even think you can get PP if you don't use it. Fucking hell this is frustrating sometimes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the game just sucks like that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You really need to listen for the sword sheathe sound
      But yeah DMCV handled the camera a lot better

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An Anon did some extensive testing a day or two ago, and apparently - they DON'T attack from off screen. At least not any more they did in previous game, so big, obnoxious, and loudly telegraphed.
      What actually happens, is that due to camera being clunky, they start their windup on screen, and then hit from off screen because the camera "lost them" in the meantime.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >starts with the unskippable "look where the 5 puzzle pieces are" cutscene
        >fight the goddamn blade mollusk
        >then need to do some shitty platforming on a timelimit
        >failing means do it all over again
        NGL, alt verse 1 on NSIC filled me with some gamer rage. Mostly because I started as Viola and she gets raped by mollusk-kun. So I swapped to bayo and raped it back with an anchor. Guess that's its niche.

        Was that the implication? I thought it was more that they were less likely, but not guaranteed, to not attack if off-screen.

        Might need more testan

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I haven't done post game stuff yet but in general the slow cutscene after already having to go back to the start point every time on those segments bothered me a lot, we should have left that shit behind generations ago.

          Also tangentially related but the time turning bit with the statue and the angels probably shouldn't have even had a time limit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >less likely, but not guaranteed,
          Correct. And being on-screen even for a second is enough for them to decide it's okay to queue up a move.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Original Soundtrack release when?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whole thing is on youtube, plenty of fantastic tracks
      I love this track

      could fit perfectly in phoenix wright or when you kick butt in W101

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I love the piano licks on that one

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do the rankings work my numbers seem way too high, are there just barely any people uploading their scores, at least on expert

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm finding it impossible to settle on 2 or 3 weapons to focus on because almost all of them are so cool

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still suck at grabbing cats, the one on the first china level is giving me motion sickness.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What
      The cat took pity on my and stopped moving? Ok then

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >holding RB speeds up those little unskippable cutscenes where it shows you where all the collecty-thingies are
    why did no one tell me this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh nice

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly can't remember anything from 2 except the bow and arrow

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bayonetta is like a cool wine aunt but actually cool

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SNIFF Luka's hair

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        damn, I was listening to the last guitar solo of this song https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=e6g-DHVA1Jw wile reading this and it made me unironically cry like a bitch

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Luka and Bayo braiding eachother's hair

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendelusion at its finest

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm at the final boss and just got to the bit of bayo and luka fighting alongside each other and for a moment there I thought you were actually gonna get to play as Luka, that would have been baller

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you feel about Jeanne dying but we can play as the werewolf instead?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck Jeanne, she's just a reskin with tweaked stats gameplay wise and they had no idea what to do with her past 1 story wise.
        Give me Fae Werewolf all day long.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree wholeheartedly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jeanne dying
        Apparently she doesn't, the final fight in space suggests she lives again like all the other bayos.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They all got merged back into Bayo3
          That would imply their universes came back as well

          Extra challenge.

          Or if you're a cheese fan and feel like some Viola-flavored cheese instead of Bayonetta-flavored cheese.

          Playing as Jeanne is like dragging my dick through broken glass, I know it could be better but it's just gimped.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That would imply their universes came back as well
            Yeah, like NY did.

            I'm not so sure the merger was all the Bayos

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm not so sure the merger was all the Bayos
              Yeah i'm pretty sure it was just the 3, they even made a point in the character lore segment about how bayo 1 and bayo 2 had led extremely similar lives to bayo 3 which is probably why they were able to merge

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shit story
    >So much shit happening sometimes you can't even tell where your character is
    The game isn't bad but it isn't above average either cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >regurgitating dunkey's opinions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>So much shit happening sometimes you can't even tell where your character is
      got through the whole game on expert, not once was it a problem for me
      maybe you should upgrade your brain

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Phenomenal remnant
    >character select
    Why would I choose anyone other than Bayonetta?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Extra challenge.

      Or if you're a cheese fan and feel like some Viola-flavored cheese instead of Bayonetta-flavored cheese.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at the chapter select screen after finishing, you don't go to the main island with the peak, is this DLC territory? The game is long enough as it is.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Cereza was the Bayonetta of her timeline, does that mean that original Bayonetta didn't exist Cereza's timeline?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's how I take it. 1 bayo changed the past and yet she and her timeline persist to exist without drastic changes, so for little cereza's timeline to continue, it will have to branch out as not to interfere with former's timeline which in turn had a hand in creating a different reality, or a mutiverse if you will.

      So to answer your question, both yes and no.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have trouble with perfect dodging
    >feels like I can never quite get the timing right
    >had bat within disabled for my entire first playthrough by mistake
    >now I'm I'm a state of constant witching for infinite climax

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Demon summoning makes fights clusterfucks.
    Or is this just git gud issue?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can use it sparingly and still take advantage of it. Summon, input a move or two you want quickly, let go of the summon button. They'll act those attacks out while you have total control of Bayo. One I like to use a lot is Phantom Back-Forward Gun which pulls an enemy in and launches them, giving you a ton of time to play around it in your combo.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good game. My GOTY so far.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once I sink my teeth into more of the post-game content it might be high up for me. Not sure if it can unseat Jack's game or Forgotten Land which have been my Top 2 for most of the year but it might sit at a comfortable 3rd or 4th. I love the combat more than SoP & FL but there's just a bunch of small flaws like every Bayo/Platinum game while SoP's biggest flaws are just performance and the DLC needing you to beat the kinda grindy postgame to engage with it and FL is kind of flawless in terms of what it goes for outside of the co-op lacking some polish. FL also has the best overall boss lineup of the three in that it has no bad ones and multiple really excellent ones, it's kind of crazy how 3D Action games have had issues with consistently good bosses for decades and HAL nailed it the first attempt.

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The collar too

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Lukaon and Strider shit is so stupid.
    Especially the "I've always had my alternate self's voice in my head since I was a kid" bit. That has NEVER come up before Bayonetta 3. You can really tell they were just throwing random shit at the wall

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tbh, you can handwave it by saying
      >I didn't want to look like a total schizo in front of the hot lady.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The "truth" rhetoric that gets spouted nonstop starting in the middle of Chapter 13 through the credits was jarring and nonsensical. Bayo 1&2 showing up made zero sense other than Singularity implying that Bayo Origin's willpower is so strong it revived those two specific versions of herself (and not the ones she met in the game or Jeanne). The cutscenes completely fuck up the flow of Singularity Definition as a boss (not to mention the wonky Gommorah segment in the middle). Viola has no part of it outside of cutscenes but Luka fights with you in one phase despite not being playable, and the Combined 1/2/3 Bayo segment just exists to look cool for like 30 seconds (and it DOES look cool but you're just doing the same shit with color-coded after-images).

      People were bitching about Bayo x Luka being canon or Jeanne dying or Viola being passed the torch but the bad part of Ch.14 is the dialogue and pacing just completely falling apart until Singularity is defeated. The stuff with Luka choosing to save Viola or Bayo, Bayo's death scene and how she removes her glasses to kiss Luka while Viola finally just can't help herself from calling them her parents as they slip away, that's actually all good, but I was burnt out from bullshit, and then the post-credits Kraken fight was also confusing since the idea of Bayo leaving behind "darkness" made no sense, and then it ended up just being Bayo herself as a torch passing moment, and yet the game never even attempts to explain what the fuck Kraken was doing in the game (I assume there were cut universes and it was a remnant of a Pirate world).

      I was not at all shocked when I saw that Bingo Morihashi didn't come back to write 3 and it was mostly Kamiya again. W101's writing must've been a fluke or something because I really love that story despite some small pitfalls (doesn't really redeem Blue & Luka enough to make them likable, Green/Yellow/White/Black are one-note). At least Enzo's family is alive.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >my truth
        I hated it, kept remembering that billboard with that fat black woman wearing calvin klein underwear

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Viola has no part of it outside of cutscenes
        It would have been a disservice to her character arc if she could have seriously contributed there, she wasn't ready.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Kraken fight was also confusing since the idea of Bayo leaving behind "darkness" made no sense, and then it ended up just being Bayo herself as a torch passing moment, and yet the game never even attempts to explain what the fuck Kraken was doing in the game (I assume there were cut universes and it was a remnant of a Pirate world).
        Read the lore, she's the specter of Alphaverse's Arch Eve - Dark Eve. The fact that Alphaverse exists despite universes collapsing when their Bayonetta dies should tip you off that she's still alive in some fashion.
        Just like Dark Adam parasitizing on main Origin Luka, she was feeding off the negative emotions of other Bayo dying, and went on her own small multiversal rampage.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh there's a lore entry for her I didn't think to check
          I was thinking it was probably something along the lines of it being a shadow of all dead bayos like lukas thing that was described in his entry since if it was just from bayo 3 bayo dying it wouldn't explain krakens first appearance

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actually now that I am looking through all the post game lore unlocks I take

            Isn't the luka from bayo 1 and 2 not the same luka as in 3? I took it to mean it was probably only that universes Luka that had that

            back, says all lukas had them

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe not though, the call came from dark adam and bayo 3 bayos universe seems a few years behind, bayo 3 universe luka had the voice from birth but maybe bayo 1/2 luka didn't start getting the voice until later

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bayo 3 bayos universe seems a few years behind
                Based on what?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Violas age, unless maybe her universe she got with luka really early

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bayo 1&2 showing up made zero sense
        Anon, Singularity loses lots of Bayonettas + Jeanne that he killed in their respective timelines during the fight on the moon. Bayo 1 & 2 showing up merely implies that he also killed them in their respective timelines and that the damage done to him in New York has temporarily freed them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the luka from bayo 1 and 2 not the same luka as in 3? I took it to mean it was probably only that universes Luka that had that

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Viola is cute and sexy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Viola was OK, but if she's really going to replace Bayo then for the next game she needs to have an overhaul on her visuals because she doesn't look like a main character. Dunno, perhaps have Jeanne return and take Viola as a protege, teaching her about being stylish and fabulous.

      OTOH, I hope they keep Viola punk themed and turn her into another goth doll like her mom.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would imagine she gets over her punk phase, in the ending she has glasses on for a second
        I wonder if platinum decided to hand off things to viola so they dont have to ask sega for permission to make/release every bayonetta game in future

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I would imagine she gets over her punk phase
          And again, I hope not. It gives her own identity, if she ends up being Bayo 2.0 then what's the point of switching characters.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Taking the pedal off the metal.
            The first game had us dabbing on Paradiso, the second had us shit on Inferno and Chaos. They backed themselves into the corner, and we got the multiverse thing. Now there's really NO WAY to escalate it any further.
            So they had Bayo and Luka put on a bus to hell so they can't interfere and they can deescalate the stakes with Viola, without any training wheels for her and a hot daddy werewolf that can solo reality for her if se ever gets in over her head.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jeanne is 100% coming back as mentor figure
        >red crytal death like all the variants
        >came back as a ghost like the variants
        >but unlike the variants she lost that ghost effect on her model just like Bayo 1 and 2 which Singularity confirmed to have destroyed implying that she ressurected in Cerezaverse while final battle took place

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She cute

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just finished it, it was great. Well worth the wait both the long wait for release and the wait between release and my actually getting the chance to play it
    I'm sure if I try to write anything more detailed of my final thoughts this late at night I will probably forget a bunch though. I'm glad I will finally be able to browse these threads properly without having to fear spoilers, I'm glad there's still plenty of discussion to be had since other games I have gotten late have had all talk dry up by the time I play them, I think I may have missed my chance to really discuss the heterosexuality drama though, although funnily enough 3 is the only game in the series that actually did have something that seemed at all even slightly gay to me, that huge fucking smile bayo had on her face near the start when Jeanne grabbed her.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that huge fucking smile bayo had on her face near the start when Jeanne grabbed her.
      that's normal between girls
      girls also have topless pillow fights

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also I have seen some people saying the game stuttered a lot but I really only had slowdown twice, I don't see what all the complaints were about there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did you play on standard?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Expert

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But then I can barely even tell the difference between 30 and 60 so maybe it was dropping a lot of other frames I didn't notice and I only saw the real bad stutters

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >can barely even tell the difference between 30 and 60
              You might want to go to the eye doctor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Check the archives, the first few(dozen) threads after pic related dropped was peak crazy.
      Y/u/rimorons raiding and malding, Anons meme'ing Luka into a gigachad of Ganker, pastas etc.
      You missed out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Y/u/rimorons raiding
        More like you obnoxious assholes raided the /u/ thread.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah you kept reeing at Lukaposting and it was funny

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon... It's time to abandon your Aggressive Brain Fantasies...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why? I sincerely don't care. Nothing that happened in this game is canon. It's just a really weird fever dream.
            I really miss Hashimoto.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You know that Hashimoto just turned Kamiya's plot outline into as script, yes?
              >Kamiya giveth, and Kamiya taketh away.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You know that Hashimoto just turned Kamiya's plot outline into as script, yes?
              >Kamiya giveth, and Kamiya taketh away.

              Bayo 2's story was mostly handled by Bingo Morihashi (writer of DMC3/4/5, had a hand in the lore for Dragon's Dogma) after Kamiya created a basic outline. Given the timeframe Bayo 3 was made it's likely that Bingo was busy with DMC5 when Platinum would've needed him on Bayo 3.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was a retarded moment, but I am glad that it happened because how it triggered the twitter fags.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The reactions to Luka nowayfag'ing Bayonetta and moonwalking away were peak comedy.

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aggressive brain fantasies

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Elden Ring
    Lol. Sifu and SoP were much better action games.

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bayo threads are utter garbage
    AHAHAHAHA. Feels fucking good. Genuinely hate you subhumans

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm really disappointed with the combat in this game

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >camera is constantly panned between violas spread legs when she does literally anything on screen

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So the general consensus is this game sucks then?
    >all the bayo1fags hate it so much they're forgiving the mistakes of 2
    >casuals hate it
    >fucking dunkey hates it
    So, what happened? How did platinum manage to fuck up so badly?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they tried to make an open world action game, failed and scooped the pieces together and slapped bayonetta on it and everyone can tell so naturally nobody is happy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah pretty much, demon slave just isn't fun. The game is a mess of particle effects, some enemies downright have zero tells so we're at a point where everyone on nsic just spams dodges or uses pulley's butterfly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kamiya watched too many marvel movies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the talent at platinum unironically just became old and senile, they can't make good games anymore

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The talent left. A lot of important bayo 1 and 2 team members are gone.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only major departure from 1&2's staff was Hashimoto, and his greatest skill was art and enemy designs. Also Bingo I guess since he did 2's story but not 3's. The combat/game design lead from 1 is still in the company but he hasn't been in a lead position since TF Devastation, just being part of the general "Game Design" group for several games (although his last two credits are Astral Chain and Babylon's Fall which are two of Platinum's worst).

          thank god someone else said it the weapons feel so fucking bad lmfao the only good weapons are cruel altea and fucking Scarborough Fair (which doesn't strip bayo btw) censored, unfun trash

          Do people really not like Ignis Yo-Yo, Ribbit Libido, Dead-End Express, Tartarus, Alruna, & Cassiopeia? CMW & Simoon kind of suck, Abracadabra was undercooked, and G-Pillar's carried heavily by its Masquerade attacks and powerful Gun but that initial list was all a lot of fun to me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >although his last two credits are Astral Chain and Babylon's Fall which are two of Platinum's worst
            astral chain is better than bayo 3
            probably better than bayo 2 because it's doing something new and does it well instead of just being shittier bayo 1

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I seriously hated AC's combat and level design despite liking the art and characters a lot. Enemy design was pretty weak too what with them using damage numbers over hit reactions half the time, and the ranking system is the worst Platinum has done since it pretty much only rewards using Legion tandem attacks regularly more than actually playing efficiently. A handful of good boss fights can't save it for me.

              I honestly can't tell if you're trolling. The yoyos feel "ok" dead end express feels TERRIBLE the fans feel clunky and I hate ribbit libido with a passion. Even alruna somehow feels different and way way worse than it did in 2 which is why I swapped to Scarborough Fair. Fucking Rodin feels like trash in this game too

              Not trolling, I guess we just don't look for the same things in weapons. Running Ribbit & Tartarus together feels fantastic IMO, those are probably my Top 2 followed by Alruna (which was tied for my favorite weapon in 2 with Takemikazuchi).

              I feel like the only great weapon is colour of my world because it's classic bayo, everything else feels very gimmicky and not having the traditional gun attack anymore makes it harder to keep up combo without spamming taunts or getting lucky
              I do like Ignis and the other weapons, but they feel relatively more floaty and MUCH harder to dodge offset with because of unclear animations, unlike the 4guns weapons which have bayo continue to shoot. I can muscle memory the offset anyway but it doesn't feel as good as the main weapon. I do think they're cool but gameplay wise they all kind of pale in comparison to the guns, like i said too much of a reliance and gimmicks for me, and this is coming from someone that actually likes them. Using Labolas and his fists is also terribly cancerous mainly due to gun attack and long animations that are a bit difficult to offset

              CMW is my least favorite set of guns in the trilogy, Scarborough just feels more natural and has Tetsuzanko. But I see the appeal of them just from a flow perspective if you don't have SF/LiB unlocked, on top of 3 bringing back bullets ricocheting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bayonetta 3 is literally just shitty astral chain
                AC's legions are snappy to control and work in tandem with you, in bayonetta it's the complete opposite and bayonetta also looks far worse than AC which has great art direction, besides running at 30fps
                although a lot of bayo 3 runs at 30fps while looking fucking disgusting and the parts that don't can also drop even lower than 30 fps sometimes, it's really fucking shit performance whereas you get used to astral chain
                it's not like bayo 3's ranking system is better when you have this shit, at least AC forces you to use a bunch of different abilities for good ranks instead of just spamming your highest damage shit because anything else gives shit point and time ranks
                kamiya directed games are the only ones with actually good scoring

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bet 1,000 dollars you were bitching about Astral Chain being 30fps and that being unplayable at release

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't give a fuck about framerate as long as it's stable
                astral chain looks good enough and the concept is cool enough that I can deal with it being 30 fps

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I kind of liked how it was a lot easier to understand how to get great scores in astral chain, but maybe it was also a bit too easy to do so

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I also prefer LiB and Scab, but CMW is a nice alternative that doesn't make me feel constricted unlike the other weapons. Honestly I feel like they really messed up in general making all the weapons have a different gun input so keeping up a combo is harder without rushing in or spamming taunts to freeze the time (also don't like how taunt is about 2 seconds long instead of the superior bayo1 hold to taunt)

                >plays on norma;
                >still gets bronze
                I can't take his opinion in good faith

                Yeah, dunkey really isn't a good critic of action games. He just likes the feeling of being strong and I feel like bayo, being a harder game in general than dmc on anything that isn't DMD, doesn't provide the same level of combat. He probably thinks you're supposed to take the plot seriously rather than using it as a backdrop like most platinum games not named MGR

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I honestly can't tell if you're trolling. The yoyos feel "ok" dead end express feels TERRIBLE the fans feel clunky and I hate ribbit libido with a passion. Even alruna somehow feels different and way way worse than it did in 2 which is why I swapped to Scarborough Fair. Fucking Rodin feels like trash in this game too

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hashimoto gone
            >Kamiya not directing
            >Bayo's voice is gone
            >the woman who did Bayo's dancing and mocap is gone
            >the cutscene choreographer from 1/2 is gone
            The game just blatantly doesnt have any talent behind it. Just the same mediocre people that made astral chain

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying
              Hashimoto left in disgrace. I'm pretty sure he was never very good.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The choreographer and mocapper are also gone? Do you have a source? I do feel like the game doesn't have the same self-indulgence and fun as the previous game but I'm on hard copium right now

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                check the credits
                it's painfully obvious just looking at the game and seeing how unsexy bayonetta's dances are and how boring the cutscenes are
                the few times bayo is actually naked the camera immediately cuts away from her, it's fucking embarrassing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think the guns have really cute dances, which tbh should give points. Unfortunately all of the cutscenes lack the same appeal. One moment I really enjoyed from 2 was bayo pole dancing on baldr's spear while fighting him, shame it's all gone though. Are the two of them working on anything else? Great work in 1 and 2

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm checking 3's credits and I don't even really see a choreographer credited while Yuji Shimomura was one of the first names credited in 2. It's not a hard confirmation but it seems so. I can't find a choreographer listed for any of the games but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. Also noticing that 3 has a different lead composer since 1&2's was doing Sol Cresta & Babylon for some reason but I wouldn't have noticed since 3 has some excellent music.

                bayonetta 3 is literally just shitty astral chain
                AC's legions are snappy to control and work in tandem with you, in bayonetta it's the complete opposite and bayonetta also looks far worse than AC which has great art direction, besides running at 30fps
                although a lot of bayo 3 runs at 30fps while looking fucking disgusting and the parts that don't can also drop even lower than 30 fps sometimes, it's really fucking shit performance whereas you get used to astral chain
                it's not like bayo 3's ranking system is better when you have this shit, at least AC forces you to use a bunch of different abilities for good ranks instead of just spamming your highest damage shit because anything else gives shit point and time ranks
                kamiya directed games are the only ones with actually good scoring

                >AC's legions are snappy to control and work in tandem with you
                Each one felt very limited (especially with how you had limited skill slots on them), wrapping around or tripping enemies got pretty old to me when they're one of the main things the scoring system wants you to do, and some of the unique actions each had were just not enjoyable (a big sticking point from nearly the beginning of the game were those enemies that connect to another one and make both invincible until you use Sword Legion's awkward Blade Mode to sever the connection). There's a handful of good, polished ideas that it barely ever expounds upon, and the novelty just wore off for me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah one thing 3 didn't drop the ball on was definitely the music. I haven't checked out the music of sol cresta or babylon would you recommend? probably won't be actually playing the games

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Babylon has some nice music and enemy designs but everything else is like a dumpster fire being wheeled into a flammable waste dump. Sol Cresta I'm told is good if you like shmups but not worth the asking price when plenty of good shmups go for <=$20 on Steam.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like the only great weapon is colour of my world because it's classic bayo, everything else feels very gimmicky and not having the traditional gun attack anymore makes it harder to keep up combo without spamming taunts or getting lucky
            I do like Ignis and the other weapons, but they feel relatively more floaty and MUCH harder to dodge offset with because of unclear animations, unlike the 4guns weapons which have bayo continue to shoot. I can muscle memory the offset anyway but it doesn't feel as good as the main weapon. I do think they're cool but gameplay wise they all kind of pale in comparison to the guns, like i said too much of a reliance and gimmicks for me, and this is coming from someone that actually likes them. Using Labolas and his fists is also terribly cancerous mainly due to gun attack and long animations that are a bit difficult to offset

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So the general consensus is this game sucks then?
      No? The most negativity I've seen is for the ending, most of which was irrational hatred over Luka winning the Bayobowl or not wanting Viola to become the MC. I've generally seen praise for the combat, although top Bayo players seem to think 3 is the most frustrating to 100% Pure Plat despite liking the combat mechanics more than 2.

      I guess I haven't seen the Dunkey video but I also don't really watch him in general.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically the only place that has anything positive to say about the game is Ganker which is...not a good sign

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean for 8 years of development yeah, it fucking sucks. Idk what happened or why but it feels like they just tried to shove a bunch of random incoherent ideas in and the result is that beyond the first 6 chapters or so the game falls apart

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >headcannon and 8 replies of samefagging
      Kys lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you'd better delete this or nintendo shills will scream at you

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >yfw you realized demon masquerade was just testing the waters for Viola's transformation being her main gimmick

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They tested violas transformation in wonderful 101 first
      but it took a very long time to charge in 101, you would get to use it like half a dozen times in the entire game, Viola not much more than that of course but only because she's not in for that long

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They had transformations in 101I've only seen a lets play of it
        I just remember the mask thing every boss fight.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bayonetta 1
    >Director: Hideki Kamiya
    >Game Design Lead: Hiroshi Shibata
    >Story: Hideki Kamiya
    Bayonetta 2
    >Director: Yusuke Hashimoto
    >Game Design Lead: nobody specifically given that title, but Hirono Sato is the first name listed under Game Design
    >Story: Bingo Morihashi
    Bayonetta 3
    >Director: Yusuke Miyata
    >Game Design Lead: Akiteru Naka
    >Story: Hideki Kamiya
    It's interesting how much each game differs looking at the credits, but with the gaps of time between each release it makes sense that there wouldn't be a ton of consistency.

    For the record, W101's lineup is the same as Bayo 1's (Kamiya directing & writing, Shibata as game design lead).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kamiya directed games are far better than everything else
      I don't know why platinum even exists

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you have genuine autism

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like I have to be fucking crazy or something. I think it's easily the worst in the trilogy, both in gameplay and in story. Demon summoning is shit outside of wink slave, the stupid sections where you have to play as the demons for excruciatingly long periods where it's just mostly you doing shitty platforming, new weapons suck and don't have fun combos, fucking Jeanne, Viola plays like shit and it an annoying fucking character, and the ending sucked ass.

    How the fuck is this better than the first 2?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're not crazy. If you go to literally anywhere outside of here people are shitting all over it. It's a disappointment

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not, people are just in the honeymoon period. In a few months everyone is gonna openly shit on this game, the fact that there's already tons of people who aren't satisfied with it says a lot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All I can really say is that I personally enjoyed the weapons, use of Slave within combat outside of wink, and most of what Viola & Jeanne's stages offered. Chapters are too long with too much space between Verses, Viola's parry doesn't feel great, Jeanne's melee in her levels is wonky due to a lack of strings or a lock-on for them, and I agree that the story is mostly a mess besides some isolated character moments, but I thoroughly enjoy the combat itself barring a couple of annoying Homunculi enemy types.

      2 is a much smoother ride from Prologue to credits (outside of a few awful bosses) but once you try out all the weapons/characters it starts to fall apart mechanically. I can see myself trying to improve at 3's Witch Trials for a while while 2's later ones are just frustrating. 1 is the most focused on its combat and Chapter pacing but you just have random segments of awful level design that kill that pacing alongside Alfheims and hidden verses that are way out of the way. All three games have their flaws which sucks since each of them were probably a few adjustments away from being excellent.

      Also this is a really small thing but I wish Viola didn't lose her grappling hook after her Faerie form is awakened. I get her float is better for traversal but the swinging she and Phantom Masquerade have felt really nice and I was bummed to see it taken away entirely.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I wish Viola didn't lose her grappling hook after her Faerie form is awakened
        You can in her skill menu

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can turn fairy wings off

          Cool, didn't realize that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I probably never would have noticed you can turn skills on and off if I hadn't accidentally turned off bat within when I first got it and went back to check I had actually brought it
            Viola doesn't do anything with the L button right maybe they should have made that toggle it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well actually no maybe I would have since I looked at the menu for a way to use the grapple still, although Initially I actually missed that the skills menu even had other tabs than the one that was just for health and magic upgrades + bat within

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can turn fairy wings off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jeanne's melee in her levels is wonky due to a lack of strings
        This bothered me a lot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thank god someone else said it the weapons feel so fucking bad lmfao the only good weapons are cruel altea and fucking Scarborough Fair (which doesn't strip bayo btw) censored, unfun trash

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so glad people are finally realizing kamiya is a hack. Bayonetta 1 was good in spite of him directing, not because of it. Every other game he's ever been involved in has been pure unmitigated dogshit
    >but anon I liked the wonderful 101!
    You genuinely have to have brain worms to like that game

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This feels like the same level of mediocrity as Astral Chain and its sad people here are sucking the game off so hard.

    Is platinum just going to be "mediocre at best" forever now? Assuming they survive the next few years

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unironically if nintendo wasn't on the box 3 and astral chain would both be rated 5/10 at best. Their standards are just so low it's sad and defending these bad games just leads to future games slowly getting worse and worse and they genuinely don't care

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Dunkey act like there was some insanely gripping story in 1 and 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't, his wife probably watched it with him and they spent time thinking and caring about the story instead of just chilling and unironically waiting for the big flashy QTEs and setpieces with your brain turned off.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        His video was really bad. I've stopped following ever since his hilariously bad Death Stranding review but wow, this one. Mentions DMC5 right at the beginning and how Bayo 3 could use it to improve then doesn't offer any legitimate criticism by using DMC5 as an example, which is funny because DMC5's story is horrid.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >then doesn't offer any legitimate criticism by using DMC5 as an example
          He did but it was just "too much platforming a gimmickry"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2 had a pretty solid story, 1's story is a mess that 2 kind of improves retroactively with Balder's sacrifice. 3's story is much of a mess as 1's but because the scope and stakes are so much grander its faults are much more apparent.

      The strength across all three games is the characters and what they do and not so much why. There's a handful of good moments in each game but they're mostly character-driven ones and not plot beats.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who cares

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They only have lower stakes than bayo 3 retroactively though, well I guess bayo 2 stakes were maybe slightly lower

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The story was well paced and the characters were pretty well written in the past games. This game has shit pacing and every character is a pathetic shell of their former selves, Bayonetta being the most obvious example because she has no goddamn personality in 3 its pathetic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't, disingenuous shill it's just that the story of 3 was so horrendously bad it makes 1and 2 look like Shakespeare

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's so interesting that you get mad and call me a shill because I insulted Dunkey.
        I don't have this game but yeah I don't believe for a second that your anger and many others towards this game is anything but forced. You sound like an autistic shitposter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1/2's stories were inoffensive and they did a good job adding context to the fights. The story in 3 actively offends me with how awful it is.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dunkey (being a retard aside) does make a good point about the story of 3 being paced awkwardly and having a lot of missed opportunities, but yeah he plays at too much of a casual level to properly appreciate the gameplay (genre shifts aside). 2 did have kind of a really good plot that moved forward a bit more organically, and 1 can also be forgiven for its flaws because it was indulgent and fun. I don't think 3 has a bad plot by any means but a lot of these normie types pretend multiverse stuff and time travel is so confusing and a mood ruiner, as if it matters for more than a backdrop to action.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bayonetta is a charming and funny character in 1 and 2. In 3 she has zero personality and the story actively works to demean and then kill her.
      It's genuinely a soap in the face to fans it's like platinum said
      >oh you like Bayonetta? Fuck you we're gonna make her look bad and kill her 5 times AND replace her
      Like fuck if they didn't want to make a bayonetta game then don't but don't pull this shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plays on norma;
      >still gets bronze
      I can't take his opinion in good faith

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    these snail enemies are so fucking cancer, I feel like it's RNG whether the dog will actually freeze them so I can keep doing damage or if I'm fucked and have to waste 10 seconds waiting for witch time, too tanky for this challenge

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to watch Luka and Dante 69ing eachothers dicks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      which version of luka? Would love a dmc-like game using luka though, seems interesting

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3 or 2
        If 2 he keeps the hat and lil glasses they are cute

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm genuinely disappointed Lukawolf isn't playable in Witch Trials and the Bonus Chapters. He's got enough of a moveset considering Rodin's playable state in 2 (which locked him and Balder to Tag Climax).

        Maybe Luka/Strider should've been an endgame Demon summon like Rodin. Maybe he is but he has Sai-Fung tier unlock requirements or needs a cheat code that Platinum won't reveal for a year.

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