Badasss punk girl, it was very common in the past. But through the current language filters and slangs of modern western internet culture, you've probably heard of it as "turbo dyke", which is not necessarily the same type of character, but it has been coopted by a certain demographic and now it's hard to have one without the other being brought up.
I have always considered it soft/faux punk Not punk enough to push people away but just enough of a edge to have some sort of appeal with mainstream audiences But that may just me being a boomer and maybe the punk girl stereotype of today just look a lot hotter now then they did back in the day
why do they ALL have this shitty fricking sidecut
what the frick is the appeal of this hair, it's like looking at grizzled buzzcut man in shitty brown shooter during the CoD craze all over again
Yeah because it's a dogshit haircut
I think Aloy or whatever her name is has shitty hair too but at least it's original, why is that haircut the default for "stronk womyn"
yeah so her design is influenced by punk rock. The sub culture utilized a lot of shaved side cuts. Simple obvious stuff.
2 years ago
Anonymous
People have had their minds ruined by woke culture. Anyone who thought "SJW the/them" upon seeing Viola instead of her obvious punk rock influence suffers from woke brain rot/fatigue. But Ganker is an outrage board, 99% of the people in this thread have not even touched a Bayonetta game and will never play 3 they just need to b***h to kill time.
Jeanne unironically has a worse design than Viola.
2 years ago
Anonymous
its tiresome
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jeanne looks bad but she does look closer to a traditional witch/hag.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's a difference between a witch and a psycho cat lady. The only good thing about 3 Jeanne is that Grey DeLisle wasn't replaced, everything else is godawful.
>Game has long leg big ass naked milkers women >homosexuals in Ganker call it troony game
It’s cope or are you so out of touch you know no more what is woke shit and what is kino??
>bayonetta's ''femininity''
Say what now? Are you implying that Bayonetta isn't feminine?
2 years ago
Anonymous
anon is scared of tall women
2 years ago
Anonymous
anon is scared of tall women
''She'' acts more like a drag queen than like a real woman. Notice how often you see ''yass queen'' in the comments.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She is based off of French modelling art books. Drag queens act like women strutting on a fashion runway.
technically they draw from the same source material
2 years ago
Anonymous
have you never seen dominant and sexy girls in your life?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can tell from his replies he hasn't seen women, period
She's just a punk girl, goddamn. Stop letting a certain group invade everything you may like. Seriously, you're just going to let them ruin goth/punk girls for you?
this is not a woman, this is just a man. i will bet you money it acts like a man too
this anon is correct, it's just gonna be nero with makeup and small breasts slapped on but not act remotely feminine and only ever bring up being female in a moron "i'm better than men" way
it's all so tiresome
Well, for one thing, this isn't Kamiya's game. I don't know why he lives rent free in your head. Also, you're completely wrong. Kamiya makes the best action games ever.
But, you're probably just a bored shitposter baiting, so I shouldn't bother replying.
The gameplay looks intriguing enough and a step up at least from 2's. Viola's combat looks like it could be interested despite it being simple. Still think her design is atrocious but maybe she'll have a less loud alternate costume.
It looks like activating witch time is far too easy again just like it was in the second game. The summon mechanic has the potential to be interesting, but I'm concerned the game will lean on it too much at the expense of the series' more traditional combat. Dyke Nero looks like she could be fun to play, but that fricking design is so unappealing.
witch time is genuinely harder to use in bayo2 than 1. Even though it activates off any single attack its length is heavily determined by what class of attack you've dodged to activate WT. What ends up happening in crowded fights is you instinctively dodge one of several attacks happening at once, don't know how long WT will last and sometimes it will be enough to gain some ground and other times it will activate for not even a full second before quickly returning to real time. Its extremely disorienting and frustrating.
You gays make it too easy to out yourselves for having never played these games extensively, or anything beyond a first playthrough consisting of stones and the occasional silver trophy.
Yes,I made that connection as soon as I saw that sword block stance.I mean they even have the same haircut and both have a katana plus MGR is also a Platinum game.I don't get the Nero/Vergil comparison just because she has white hair...Plus I noticed some of Sam's moves as well
Since you are the only one talking about the game I'll respond to you:
Yeah, they took Sin Devil Trigger and made a whole new game about it instead of just doing one attack and get out of it in QuadS. Looks awesome, I hope it's well done
Satire. S-A-T-I-R-E.
Bayonetta is a deconstruction of the (at the time) bald space marine games that were everywhere. She is sexual without being conventionally sexy, etc.
I remember an interview in some magazine where Kamiya said Bayo was meant to be the female equivalent to God of War. Kamiya wanted a female character who was strong but displayed her strength in a way that was uniquely feminine. It makes for a way more interesting "female power fantasy" than the western approach of making a woman "powerful" by having them look and act like a man and screaming into the camera.
>Viola can still fight while chesire is out albeit it is without a weapon or witch time >Bayonetta is stuck doing her dance routine and completely vulnerable when summoning her demons
It's because cheshire is more integral to viola's gameplay and cheshire is literally a part of viola's sword while Bayonetta is summoning entire demons from hell or w/e
>babylon's flop >literal troony characters in bayo
someone shut these washed up cucks down, the only thing they have proven as a studio is that they are nothing without capcom
I'm gonna tell you how this works because zoomers don't seem to understand.
Bayonetta, the IP itself, belongs to Sega.
Nintendo went to Sega and made a deal to publish and fund Bayonetta 2 and 3.
This means Nintendo has the rights to Bayonetta 2 & 3, but not to the IP itself.
If another company wants to port Bayonetta 2 and/or 3 to other systems, they have to go to Nintendo and get the permission to do so.
But if a company wanted to make a Bayonetta 4, or a Jeanne/Rodin spin off, the company only has to go through Sega and Nintendo can't do shit about it. But these spinoffs can't use characters that originated from Bayonetta 2 and/or 3.
troonynetta being a series about lap dancing witches acting super sexualizing and having a fanbase of gays, feminists and trannies will never not be funny
none of you will believe me but i was the man who started this trend of viola getting facefricked and leaving messy lipstick marks everywhere
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/605711058/#605711673
no need to thank me still need art of her messily making out with some guys butthole whilst giving him a titjob/handjob though
>when you do nothing but browse Ganker all day 24/7 and can no longer have any original thought, just spouts memes based on superficial context clues like an AI
what do you guys honestly feel about the gameplay? the controling the monster part looks clunky as hell but other than that, it seems to be more of the same.
Viola is cleary the easy mode option for beginners. kinda like Nero. hope Jeane is playable.
Nothing they've shown so far looks even remotely interesting. Everything just looks extremely slidey.
Hopefully, you'll be able to Dodge Cancel out of attack animations, so you can combine those fancy WW attacks. The combat will feel extremely automated otherwise.
Who the frick needs your Bayonetta with this bald moron in development if I do something cooler in the next 10 years - on the level of what I did for the first two Ninja Gaiden!
while i agree, i wouldn't mind some ninja gaiden news at all
though, why try making something good when you can crank up all the breasts on some low effort doa gatcha and make heaps of money anyway
Fricking Kamiya. Girls like this are why I’m still a virgin. They disgust me. All prospective women I date MUST NOT: >dye their hair unnatural colors >cut their hair above their shoulders >have piercing on any body part other than their ears >have any tattoos >listen to music made after 1999 >wear non-skin-tone makeup >wear chokers >use profanity
>use profanity
Based. Vulgar women are unattractive as frick. Met a chick like that and was immediately turned off. Never texted her back or hung out again
>Girls like this are why I'm still a virgin
Nah, anon that's all on you.
Also it's funny you ask that a woman be pure and the like then you post a coombait pic of an anime girl in a loose nun outfit with head sized breasts and a navel piercing. Ask yourself if the kind of girl you just said you wanted was the kind of girl that would want you.
Some of your conditions are very easy to fulfill, but others seem unreasonable. I only known one girl that wears a choker, it's not common, but who hasn't listened to music past 1999 even on accident?
The only places you'd find women like these are very secluded religious communities, but why the frick would women from those communities date you or anyone here
>another fricking Yakuza game
Yeah I get the appeal but I don't get why they make so many of those. Also: >Yakuza Producer Thinks The Series Is Too ‘Underground’ And Violent For Switch
Frick nintendo for making their console this gay.
Dont care about this franchise but overall thoughts: >graphics look worse than DMC5 >surprised they are still allowed to use the word "slave" >gameplay too flashy for my taste >Bayonetta still is hot >Viola is hot as frick in a trashy way >they literally added a journalist mode where pressing 2 buttons wins the game
It was pretty funny when they showcased Easy Auto in Bayo 1.
They didn't give it the "you can play stylishly and focus on the story!" veil.
They flatly joked "it's so you can play Bayo one-handed hee hee hee."
Hellena Taylor is still in the game. She voices OG Bayonetta. This is Cereza from an alt timeline.
The weapon slot change is due to demon masquerade. Your abilities are more complex in this one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>She voices OG Bayonetta.
Source? That's definitely just a (coping) rumor. >Your abilities are more complex in this one
I highly doubt they'll be complex enough to justify removing one of Bayonetta's most iconic & important mechanics. If they don't bring it back in some way, this game will be worse than B2 by default.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Source? That's definitely just a (coping) rumor
She was at the end of the second trailer. Are you deaf or moronic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
cope
no she wasn't, even in the new trailer you can see your headcanon evaporated as nu-bayo does the same incantation
2 years ago
Anonymous
NTA, but it sounded like her to me. >even in the new trailer you can see your headcanon evaporated as nu-bayo does the same incantation
What are you referring to?
There's some footage of the original bayo here, although it has no audio.
Should you really care? I mean we know there is going to be multiple bayonettas, so maybe we will get different playstyles for each one of them. We know how the original bayo played, we know how the new one does and we still know nothing about the chinese version or jeanne.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jeanne has always just been Bayonetta with tougher timings and extra damage. I doubt it'll be any different this time.
>Violas entire segment takes up less time than explaining a single one of Bayo's mechanics
Why the frick is she playable if they care this little.
Looks gimmicky as frick, which is a shame since 2 really lowered the gimmick/cutscne/instakill spam of 1 (where you legit have more QTE's or cutscenes per min than RE6).
>first game enemies: angels >second game enemies: angels, but also demons >third game enemies:
Is it a safe bet that bayo 3's enemies will be fairies? creatures of chaos as opposed to the other two realms. Either that or aliens, but fairies as they were understood in ancient times were basically medieval aliens.
Also why is the trailer narrated like it's target demographic is children? literally same tone as a pokemon gameplay trailer
Demon mechanic looks to be taken straight up out of Nioh, with maybe a bit of influence from V in DMC5. From the transformations to what appears to literally be a burst counter on large monsters, very Nioh inspired to me.
Aesthetically its a huge downgrade, only the angels look good and its because they are from the past games. The "DT" form looks fricking abhorrent.
Monsters look more passive than I've ever seen in Bayo, maybe the footage is from babby mode, but this shit looks DMC5 empusa tier.
Platforming in monster forms, meh, might be fun.
One button combos with an item equiped is a bad sign, focusing on literal movie gaymer casuals. Especially with the pass mobs, not looking good.
Wo Long's showcase has me more hyped than this game so far. If Bayo 3 doesn't have a NSIC that removes crutch time, then even the Bayo diehards will reject it just like they did with 2. Taking inspiration from the least fleshed out mechanic of Nioh 2 was probably not the thing to make a shining return with. Not impressed at all so far.
>Demon mechanic looks to be taken straight up out of Nioh, with maybe a bit of influence from V in DMC5
Feels more like they taking the scraps of scalebound and some stuff from Astral chain.
Could be, I never got a chance to play Astral Chain so I'm unsure if its like that game. HAving demon abilities and a burst counter-type thing just make me think of Nioh instantly.
How were Nioh 2's yokai abilities not fleshed out? Being able to cancel anything into them at any time was huge. I don't really see Bayo 3's resemblance to them anyhow beyond the demon counters being vaguely similar to yokai counters, it resembles Astral Chain more if anything. Platinum have been playing around with the concept controlling multiple characters at once for ages. >One button combos with an item equiped is a bad sign
That's been there since the first Bayo
Most of the yokai abilties had basically no real good use, lots of awful hitboxes such as fuki because his gun clips through enemies, essentially all came down to dealing ki damage so nothing else mattered besides that, etc. However the abilties wern't really as bad as how poor the DT/Yokai counter were, which is what it feels like Bayo took inspiration from. I haven't played Astral chain, so no idea if its similar to that.
Does anyone know if it's one campaign switching between multiple characters like DMC5 or is it like Resident Evil 6 where each character has their own campaign? I'm not a fan of how DMC 5 did it, I enjoyed the gameplay but it felt messy and there wasn't enough time with Dante, so I just hope Bayo 3 has seperate campaigns so there's enough time with each character and it doesn't feel so messy. I love Bayonetta 1 and 2 but I don't wanna get too excited for 3 because it seems quite different so far.
I'm hoping it's like Transformers Devastation, where you can just choose whichever character you want to use, but I doubt it'll work that way. You'll probably be forced to play as Bayo/Viola the first time, and then you'll unlock character select after you beat the game or something like that.
Speaking of characters, I hope Jeanne doesn't get the short end of the stick this time. I hope she has some sort of unique mechanic (hopefully hand/feet slots, since Bayonetta doesn't have those anymore).
thoughts on the demon summoning mechanics? it seems boring to just summon them and have them kill stuff while you watch, but having them in parries or at the end of combos seems better. i'm just worried between that and the new umbra time like mechanic everything is gonna be super easy to trivialize
why does platinum have to have the worst character design, the games are fun but I cant stand bayonetta or any of her shitty friends. I need paper bag face mask dlc.
so is there going to be any reason why they couldn't have just given Viola's weapon to bayonetta instead of contriving a new character? Place your bets
The obvious thing is Viola herself being more important. I guess having her be playable adds more than her being another mcguffin child like loki and Cereza
Not really. I feel like they just wanted a new character for the sake of having a new character. She'll probably be either underused or extremely forced.
I'm partially convinced that the Umbran Clan was just an insane lesbian sex cult (with Rosa being the only exception), so I don't think they'd ever date another human.
Yeah, but at least Viola seems like a fun character, unlike V. I'm sure you'll be to play the game as Jeanne later as well, so it isn't that much of a problem.
I'm pretty happy there's not 10,000 things happening each second like in 2. Between that, needing witch time for everything, and the climax balancing changes it was misery to replay. 3 is looking pretty good though I do think the summons are too slow and will be relegated to gimmick status once a player gets a hang of the other mechanics.
Holy shit why did this thread instantly devolve into some bullshit.
As for the video, what's with the childish tone? >use different buttons to do punches and kicks
Who is this for? My mom?
The game looks fun but this focus on accessibility has me a bit worried. The whole aesthetic feels off. The composer of the first two games made it a rule to not use guitars, now this trailer has a generic pop rock song.
Bayo 1 & 2 each had very distinct artstyles
This one looks bland & low budget in comparison, like the alien enemies look like stuff from the unity asset store
I'm sure the gameplay will be amazing because it's Platinum, but I'm sad to see that the visuals are kind of half assed this time
By far my biggest disappointment. First two games were spot on with aesthetics. 3 looks more like NMH III than a Bayo sequel graphically. Sucks because 2 looked great compared to 1 it was just everything else that sucked.
Bayonetta 1 looked at least as good as 2. In trailers it looks like dog shit but the detail and atmosphere are great. Bayonetta 2 looks good on a surface level.
Most of the time it was fine but some of the areas looked like ass. Mainly the lava level, Paradise at night, and the city looked like a Playmobil set. Water also looked much worse which dragged down the Sapientia and Temperentia fights.
I do think 1's art and level direction were much stronger though. Climbing Ithavoll tower while fighting through every enemy in the game before concluding with running into that glowing globe with the atmospheric track playing was hype. Bayonetta 2 never let its foot off the brakes so it rarely felt like I was playing a level, just a bunch of set pieces stitched together. Only real exception was when you have to run around cracking the entrance to hell open.
She'll only have 1 weapon from the looks of it. There's no way she'll be complex. If anything she'll play like Sam from MGR, who was just okay at best; nothing that complex.
It's incredible. It matches the combat perfectly. >Girl when you fight, it looks like a dance
That's quite literally what Dodge Offset is; you're "dancing" with the enemies. I love it.
No, I don't mean from trailer to trailer, I mean that the entire style of music changed compared to the older games. I phrased it in a confusing way.
I think the current music is shit and I'm very disappointed.
too many red flags, but it was fun watching the drama >everyone screaming to kamiya on twitter that the game is censored since the first reveal >he claims it isn't >years later turns out it actually is, but the censorship is optional
they lost me at that and viola
if a completely optional mode for streamers was enough to somehow deter you chances are you weren't even very good at the game to begin with. i don't know what the actual frick you people are trying to prove with these types of comments. you remind me of the morons that screeched on twitter how they would never replay bayonetta 1 ever again because 2 was a ii u exclusive.
I thought I was so cool for noticing that none of the previous trailers showed bayo doing a wicked weave outside devil trigger only for it not to have meant anything. Good trailer though, I think it turned me around on demon summoning. Flows a hell of a lot better than I initially figured.
>2 Jeanne is sexy as frick >Playing as her is pure ass cancer due to the WT and WW nerfs as well as requiring moth within dodges for WT sucks dick with 2's aggressive bosses and demons >3 changing up combat so Jeanne might be fun again >She's ugly as frick now
It's not fair.
honestly playing as jeanne in 2 is much better than bayo. At least jeannes wicked weaves do fricking SOMETHING. Jesus, bayonettas wicked weaves do zero damage, hitstun and knockback. What the frick were they thinking?
The damage multiplier is not enough. 1.5x of frick-all damage is still frick-all. The only thing it's useful for is being able to finish minibosses with one rotation of Umbran Climax, but it's not a fun mechanic to use in the first place.
50% percent faster is 50% faster and I recall more stun. Only thing bayo has going for her is easier time activating WT. but at least Moth within gives you more consistent WT length
That was one of the things that bugged me the most in Bayonetta 2. There was literally no reason to use Bayonetta over Jeanne or Rosa. She was so pathetically weak.
Game looks pretty fun. Having summoning available in combat and weapons giving access to different demon summon movesets/exploration options is neat. Viola very much seems like the Nero to Dante where it allows them to use a different aesthetic and personality as well as making things simpler for new players to the series while Bayonetta has added complexity since this is the third game.
Sucks that it's on Switch though. Looks pretty fugly. I guess it means my Switch will actually get some use though.
Was a bit confused by the trailer. You get both a devil trigger called demon masquerade that summons wicked weave limbs and also you can summon them as whole monsters?
And both can be combined with torture attacks?
Yes, real best "friend" behavior right here.
Just accept that they're lesbians, man. Jeanne protected Bayonetta for over 500 years while she was in that lake. Not to mention that they literally live together. They also grew up in a place without any men around. There are simply too many signs.
>joke >it's proof that it's real!!!111
Homonettagays incapable of humor?
Unless they straight up smooch on screen then she's a best friend, get over it.
We can't say for certain until we get a demo, but it does seem like they're addressing things that sucked about 2, and the demon slave+masquerade systems actually do look interesting.
I'm a bit more sold on Viola, she looks neat enough not to drag the game down as long as you're not playing as her more than 30% of the time (unless she ends up having multiple weapons).
One thing I can't figure out is what the meter with 5 thingies in the top-left does. At one point bayo built a "bar" by doing a WW launcher. I never saw it go down during gameplay even when using demon slave or masquerade though.
Also for anyone wondering about OG bayonetta, check this out (spoilers probably)
>addressing things that sucked about 2
Raw weaves don't do shit to fatties, you still have to get WT to stun/displace them. And there's no (?) air juggle footage without WT so combo breaking still up in the air.
>I never saw it go down during gameplay
5 orbs for "Masquerade rage". It's literally an animation locked short burst of UC.
>you still have to get WT to stun/displace them.
At the very least the demon slave activation attack can launch fatties (https://youtu.be/EM1nSzTCgsQ?t=147). Looks like wink slave can too (https://youtu.be/U-SHVeW37cc?t=62). I think the magic meter mechanic where you lose a chunk but it turns pink (like red health in a fighter) might be to incentivize quickly using these attacks and going back to bayo so you get to keep the pink meter. I wouldn't be surprised if assault slave and masquerade can also launch big bois, depending on the demon you're using.
I couldn't actually find footage of a large lad getting hit by a WW outside of WT without also using wink slave, so uh... yeah not sure. But at the very least, launching large enemies isn't a witchtime-exclusive ability any more.
>Demon slave
Slow af and you have to get to the launching move in a chain (?).
>Wink slave
Slow af and probably has the same animation for each demon every time.
Gomorrah's one is a big swipe that launches towards the player. But maybe there's a launcher for the parrot or something.
>I think the magic meter mechanic where you lose a chunk but it turns pink (like red health in a fighter)
Probably, but it's only for non-context summoning, Wink and Assault don't have the red chunk and have a cost of about its initial length.
>to incentivize
It's one of the selling points, of course they jumping out of their pants want to incentivize it.
3:34, looks like slave meter is starting to regenerate on its own just after she-phantom deactivation.
>I couldn't actually find footage of a large lad getting hit by a WW outside of WT
1:45
I wonder if there's some drawback to using masquerade in combat, it looks like you can activate it at no cost (which makes sense considering its overworld uses). I'd guess you lose access to some stuff while in it.
>Slow af and you have to get to the launching move in a chain (?)
It's not slow, it comes out immediately. Check the timestamp I posted, activating demon slave makes the demon perform an initial attack, gomorrah's launched two big boys. >Wink slave >Slow af
Again not really, it comes out right after the weave.
Demon slave and wink slave both come with the pink bar, assault slave doesn't have the initial "chunking", the meter ticks down from the very top.
>It's one of the selling points, of course they jumping out of their pants want to incentivize it.
My point was more that they specifically want to incentivize using it quickly and then swapping back to bayo if you want to play optimally. Which seems more fun than standing there dancing while your demon does stuff.
In any case this seems fine to me, we know there's multiple good ways to launch large enemies, and there could very well be other methods like breaking their poise. I'm not worried about this aspect of the combat any more.
>I wonder if there's some drawback to using masquerade in combat
It doesn't seem like it. It gives a lot of combo points, so every other "drawback" is meaningless, if there even is one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That would be a pretty basic oversight on their part, to add an ability that you should just always use that has no downsides or cost.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like something I'd expect out of Platinum.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean if they were gonna go full moron like that they would have made bayo invincible while doing her ebin demon summoning dance, but instead the demon goes poof if she gets hit during it.
My favorite thing about the game is that I can see elements of almost every game platinum has ever made being put to use here.
It's too early to tell, but if the gameplay holds up this could be their magnum opus.
Particularly AC >defensive summoning mechanic that looks like it's basically perfect call >alternate between controlling your summon and controlling your character, have to keep character protected >mobility options of masquerade feel like riding the dog or equipping the arm legion
But really I suppose the primary comparison for summoning ought to be Scalebound.
Then viola feels a bit like Raiden with the parries. IDK if there's any W101 or transformers stuff.
if witch time on dodges still happens on NSIC the game is doa, I really hope platinum is not moronic enough to make that stupid mistake again
also please no more random combo breaks from enemies
>NSIC
Hmmm? The issue with Bayo 2's combat is that it felt like they didn't do anything better than the first game and this game is already looking more unique in how it plays.
no, the issue was them completely fricking up the combat system by making you rely on WT to be able to fight stuff effectively instead of the game being played mostly without it by NSIC. yes new stuff is good but if they don't fix the underlying issue it won't save it
People have been analyzing the footage and thus far there doesn't appear to be any indication of WT being mandatory or enemies just fricking your combos, so... fingers crossed.
I wouldn't say pointless. It's not impossible they'll say >how should we change the gameplay on higher difficulties intended for more hardcore players? >let's frick it up the exact same way we fricked it up last time that they've complained about vocally for 8 years!
...but I don't think it's very likely.
If bayo 3's core combat has major mechanical mistakes, I suspect they'll be new mistakes, considering how much they're shaking things up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do they listen to what western fans b***h about though, and do Japanese fans also complain about it as well? Bayo 2 is still widely considered better than 1 even if it doesn't deserve to be, because it arguably is if you're only going to play each once or twice which is the case for most people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not so sure if this new director understands Bayonetta very well, so honestly, they might repeat the same mistakes again. I'm hoping they don't, but it seems very likely so far, even if Kamiya is more hands-on this time.
What kind of line of thought is that? Even in a scenario where Bayonetta, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden were active franchises with 10/10 releases and were still getting cool games like Metal Gear Rising, Viewtiful Joe, and Godhand, you would only touch DMC when it releases like once or twice a gen?
I'm not talking about these other franchises though. Bayonetta is the only derivative enough to make me ignore it once its superior predecessor came back. The world, characters, combat, music and artstyle are so much worse compared to DMC and I only indulged with Bayo because DMC was dead for so long.
>world
DMC has the most generic interpretation of hell ever. Everything else is a grey, boring mess. >characters
They're literally generic anime characters, but sure. >combat
Subjective, but I don't like DMC's combat. I don't like the enemy design, and I don't think the combat is as good as people say. >music
DMC's soundtrack has been shit since 3. Generic metal with screaming in the background is not good. >artstyle
DMC has no art style. DMC4 was just FF, and DMC5 is just realistic garbage.
You're free to like DMC if you want to, but you're still a homosexual nonetheless.
>Argument boils down to "n-nuh uh"
Holy cope. So this is the power of the world's biggest Bayonetta shill who can't even bring up one good point about the thing he is defending lmao
*My* "argument" boiled down to "nuh uh"? You didn't even bother explaining what makes DMC better. You just said "DMC does X and Y better than Bayonetta, and I'll not elaborate any further."
You could've at least said some bullshit like "Bayonetta is just PKP spam", but no, you didn't even try.
2 proves that even just an art upgrade makes all the difference. The dull gray of the original game is replaced with vibrant color and it makes all the difference.
3 seems to be trying to go for the same idea 2 had but with a shittier artstyle and design sense for Bayo enemies.
It's not super attractive, but I'm starting to feel like that kind of fits. Bayonetta in 1 was this giraffe-proportioned runway model with a crazy beehive, she wasn't attractive in the same way you normally expect of a Japanese game heroine. Viola is in a similar boat except with a full-on punk aesthetic instead of the fashion model aesthetic.
The big reason it worked with Bayo is because she sold it with her personality and mannerisms. Jury's out on if Viola can pull it off as well.
this girl at first glance was such a turn off and eye sore but the newer video made me lighten up a bit after seeing how she plays and her attitude.
i expect her to grow a lot through out the game which will kinda make her second if not most important
Boycotting this crap
Nobody cares, chud. you can start by boycotting this thread and fricking off
What is this character archetype called?
low effort
i dunno 80s punk b***h.
Don't insult the 80s like that.
reminds me of travis touchdown
Sideshave Brave [Stunning in Grave]
the soft spot between liberal enough to want to hate frick, not liberal enough to be ugly as sin
troony delusion, stunning and brave, strong and independant womyn.
What fat neck beard devs think a strong woman character looks like
>I wanna be a strong woman so i reject femininity as I associate strength with being boyish.
Badasss punk girl, it was very common in the past. But through the current language filters and slangs of modern western internet culture, you've probably heard of it as "turbo dyke", which is not necessarily the same type of character, but it has been coopted by a certain demographic and now it's hard to have one without the other being brought up.
deadweight
femnazi activist, some also call it twitter lesbo.
Urbanoid millennial woman on SRIs and birth control
in the 90s it was a guy with sunglasses, backwards baseball cap, and a skateboard
So well put it.
A girl I want to do copious amounts of cocaine and fluid swapping sex with
Ugly dyke
I can and i would fix her with all my love! 😀
Kunt.
It's the "dyke made for lesbian conversion"
wienergobbler.
Repurposed Male Character
puta
I have always considered it soft/faux punk Not punk enough to push people away but just enough of a edge to have some sort of appeal with mainstream audiences But that may just me being a boomer and maybe the punk girl stereotype of today just look a lot hotter now then they did back in the day
bulldyke
THE TIME HAS COME. AND SO HAVE I.
Nero was annoying but he's actually cute and frickable
Viola looks annoying and ugly
bros... dykes make my pp hard...
Why Internet doing this. Is this a call to authors not to create good games or will we rape you?
I'm pretty sure it's just that Viola's design fits a very particular character archetype that people love to see get violently facefricked.
I really don't like her style, I think she'd look infinitely better without those lips and pink pair of her hair.
>want to know how I got these scars?
>chud
It isn't 2016 or even 2020 anymore homie let it go
Next you'll say awesomesauce and cool beans or tell me how epic you are
I want her to step on my dick and call me a chud
why do they ALL have this shitty fricking sidecut
what the frick is the appeal of this hair, it's like looking at grizzled buzzcut man in shitty brown shooter during the CoD craze all over again
jesus we've heard you before. The sidecut, yeah it makes you kvetch. We got it.
Yeah because it's a dogshit haircut
I think Aloy or whatever her name is has shitty hair too but at least it's original, why is that haircut the default for "stronk womyn"
yeah so her design is influenced by punk rock. The sub culture utilized a lot of shaved side cuts. Simple obvious stuff.
People have had their minds ruined by woke culture. Anyone who thought "SJW the/them" upon seeing Viola instead of her obvious punk rock influence suffers from woke brain rot/fatigue. But Ganker is an outrage board, 99% of the people in this thread have not even touched a Bayonetta game and will never play 3 they just need to b***h to kill time.
Jeanne unironically has a worse design than Viola.
its tiresome
Jeanne looks bad but she does look closer to a traditional witch/hag.
There's a difference between a witch and a psycho cat lady. The only good thing about 3 Jeanne is that Grey DeLisle wasn't replaced, everything else is godawful.
you sound very gay. don't respond to his brilliant post with your crying homosexual
That's not a sidecut.
Is there enough good porn of her yet to make it worth cumtributing her?
I read this as "and start jerking off" which I would be in 100% agreement btw.
No pubes?
4PBP
>choker snapping
more like bayocotting
>Game has long leg big ass naked milkers women
>homosexuals in Ganker call it troony game
It’s cope or are you so out of touch you know no more what is woke shit and what is kino??
Frick off troony
But it is a troony game (and that's a good thing)
>But it is a troony game
souce?
It's a pretty popular franchise in the lgbt community and there's something uncanny about bayonetta's ''femininity''
That isn't proof, moron.
Don't care. I'll keep calling it a troony game and you can't stop me. I didn't even say that it's a bad thing.
>bayonetta's ''femininity''
Say what now? Are you implying that Bayonetta isn't feminine?
anon is scared of tall women
''She'' acts more like a drag queen than like a real woman. Notice how often you see ''yass queen'' in the comments.
She is based off of French modelling art books. Drag queens act like women strutting on a fashion runway.
technically they draw from the same source material
have you never seen dominant and sexy girls in your life?
You can tell from his replies he hasn't seen women, period
She's just a punk girl, goddamn. Stop letting a certain group invade everything you may like. Seriously, you're just going to let them ruin goth/punk girls for you?
Viola is fricking hot and I want her blue lipstick smeared all over my wiener as I face frick her
This is basically gunna be Bayonetta's version of Nero. Calling it now.
more like bayonetta's version of donte
Eh, with the blue and the katana you could have called Vergil imo
Yeah, like he said, Nero.
this is not a woman, this is just a man. i will bet you money it acts like a man too
this anon is correct, it's just gonna be nero with makeup and small breasts slapped on but not act remotely feminine and only ever bring up being female in a moron "i'm better than men" way
it's all so tiresome
>nero but grill
Built for throatfricking
I just noticed >her troony collar
So ugly compared to Stellar kino
>Korean
Into the trash it goes.
Come home white man.
Did you also jerk off to your sisters barbie dolls as a kid?
Get that plastic shit outta here.
>Did you also jerk off to your sisters barbie dolls as a kid?
No I just jerk offd to my sister
>Korean shallow booba game
Like their plastic faced women, Korea is incapable of making anything of substance that isn't an overhyped tv show.
Not to defend asiaticshit but Kamiya literally is Style Over Substance: The Director
Well, for one thing, this isn't Kamiya's game. I don't know why he lives rent free in your head. Also, you're completely wrong. Kamiya makes the best action games ever.
But, you're probably just a bored shitposter baiting, so I shouldn't bother replying.
>Please love this shit game
>It has a shit coombait character in it
Nah, I'll just play a gacha or DoA.
hypocrite right wing whites be like
>im not racist when im horny!!!
where do you think you are out of curiosity
>Korean game
I absolutely feel sorry for all the people that's going to get tricked into buying this game.
the aesthetic just looks generic
I'd rather play something ugly
Average white girl phenotype > fake asian cosmetic asiatic phenotype
Frick off asiaticshill
Your plastic mannequin coombait is fricking shit.
She's not that pretty tbh. Cute. But not pretty.
doesn't look that great, yet still looks much better than the shit in OP, lots of shill on damage control too
This is why I clicked this thread.
The gameplay looks intriguing enough and a step up at least from 2's. Viola's combat looks like it could be interested despite it being simple. Still think her design is atrocious but maybe she'll have a less loud alternate costume.
her music is really good though and its only a matter of time
It looks like activating witch time is far too easy again just like it was in the second game. The summon mechanic has the potential to be interesting, but I'm concerned the game will lean on it too much at the expense of the series' more traditional combat. Dyke Nero looks like she could be fun to play, but that fricking design is so unappealing.
Activating Witch Time was always as easy as pressing the dodge button, and the window was always super-generous, especially if you had the buff.
witch time is genuinely harder to use in bayo2 than 1. Even though it activates off any single attack its length is heavily determined by what class of attack you've dodged to activate WT. What ends up happening in crowded fights is you instinctively dodge one of several attacks happening at once, don't know how long WT will last and sometimes it will be enough to gain some ground and other times it will activate for not even a full second before quickly returning to real time. Its extremely disorienting and frustrating.
Yeah, they had to balance WT a lot since it wasn't just a crutch that time. IIRC, WT's duration depended on the power of the enemy's attack.
You gays make it too easy to out yourselves for having never played these games extensively, or anything beyond a first playthrough consisting of stones and the occasional silver trophy.
Scrappy Doo Genderswap
>she's hot as frick and plays like raiden in revengeance
incredibly based
That's probably the best comparison, I didn't even think of that.
I didn't think they were even trying to be subtle in the gameplay trailer, I can't fricking wait for halloween.
>raiden
lol holy shit you're right, those are straight-up cc animations.
Yes,I made that connection as soon as I saw that sword block stance.I mean they even have the same haircut and both have a katana plus MGR is also a Platinum game.I don't get the Nero/Vergil comparison just because she has white hair...Plus I noticed some of Sam's moves as well
bayomama
EWWWWWW
What are the chances of the designs from Bayonetta 1/2 being alternate costumes we can use during gameplay? I'm not feeling her new look.
Did the second one let you use her Bayo 1 look? If so I don't see why this wouldn't continue the tradition.
yes the second let you use multiple costumes including her bayo1 outfit
Real talk.
Do people actually find Bayonetta sexy?
Her design is cringe.
The first time i played bayo 1 when it came out i was half-chud my entire playthrough, granted i was a teenager
looks pretty neat, I hope it can manage a consistent 60 on the switch, they've definitely compromised with the graphics
Heihachi Wallnuts, XD.
THAT'S RIGHT wienerSUCKER
GO BACK TO THE MISHIMA ZAIBATSU
Since you are the only one talking about the game I'll respond to you:
Yeah, they took Sin Devil Trigger and made a whole new game about it instead of just doing one attack and get out of it in QuadS. Looks awesome, I hope it's well done
>game with adult themes
>sex, nudity, violence
>release on child's handheld device
what are they thinking?
bayonetta doesnt feel sexual at all to me
maybe im not into mommy type
have you ever played a bayonetta game?
Yeah
I'm not attracted to inbred british mtf trannies
I am
>ten hours later
>thread still up
good, if you live long enough to see this message, please know that you're a fricking homosexual
Series needs to feature more Jeanne to be considered sexual.
Satire. S-A-T-I-R-E.
Bayonetta is a deconstruction of the (at the time) bald space marine games that were everywhere. She is sexual without being conventionally sexy, etc.
I remember an interview in some magazine where Kamiya said Bayo was meant to be the female equivalent to God of War. Kamiya wanted a female character who was strong but displayed her strength in a way that was uniquely feminine. It makes for a way more interesting "female power fantasy" than the western approach of making a woman "powerful" by having them look and act like a man and screaming into the camera.
They are both cringe
I think they could really improve the female power aspect by having bayonetta rape me in this new game
I want her theme
>Viola can still fight while chesire is out albeit it is without a weapon or witch time
>Bayonetta is stuck doing her dance routine and completely vulnerable when summoning her demons
It's because cheshire is more integral to viola's gameplay and cheshire is literally a part of viola's sword while Bayonetta is summoning entire demons from hell or w/e
Bayonetta is directing her demons, while viola has no Control over Cheshire
This whole series such a trashpile of creatively bankrupt ripoffs and badly designed mechanics it's hilarious
>badly designed mechanics
Name one
You should have said:
>Name one excluding minigames.
The homosexual will bring up the bike section or some shit.
I can't get over how ugly "she" is
>babylon's flop
>literal troony characters in bayo
someone shut these washed up cucks down, the only thing they have proven as a studio is that they are nothing without capcom
troony characters
Viola is actually a troony?
she's just a punk (dyke) and wants Lucas dick.
>Viola is actually a troony?
In the sense that she was originally suppose to be a guy with his own game unrelated to Bayonetta.
>literal troony characters
Why would anyone transition from male to female just to look like a short haired lesbian?
god i can't wait for the r34 of her rimming dudes and slobbing on balls
Soooo any chance of Bayonetta 2 and 3 coming to other platforms ever?
Not ever, never.
moneyhatted by nintendo so prolly never, unless platinum does another moronic stunt ala w101
Raise up 500 million and contact Nintendo
I'm gonna tell you how this works because zoomers don't seem to understand.
Bayonetta, the IP itself, belongs to Sega.
Nintendo went to Sega and made a deal to publish and fund Bayonetta 2 and 3.
This means Nintendo has the rights to Bayonetta 2 & 3, but not to the IP itself.
If another company wants to port Bayonetta 2 and/or 3 to other systems, they have to go to Nintendo and get the permission to do so.
But if a company wanted to make a Bayonetta 4, or a Jeanne/Rodin spin off, the company only has to go through Sega and Nintendo can't do shit about it. But these spinoffs can't use characters that originated from Bayonetta 2 and/or 3.
Optimal settings for Bayo 2 emulation on the wii u emu?
If only you could look up such a simple thing on the internet.
troonynetta being a series about lap dancing witches acting super sexualizing and having a fanbase of gays, feminists and trannies will never not be funny
I find dike haircuts attractive but even i can't stomach that lipstick and makeup.
sounds like a homosexual problem
>sounds like a homosexual problem
Bayonetta in one sentence
hopefully there will be alternate costumes. She's not very cool looking and Bayo's outfit from the last game is way better than this one.
none of you will believe me but i was the man who started this trend of viola getting facefricked and leaving messy lipstick marks everywhere
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/605711058/#605711673
no need to thank me
still need art of her messily making out with some guys butthole whilst giving him a titjob/handjob though
I believe you and I've continued the trend with at least two characters since. I hope it picks up.
Keep doing God’s work, Anon.
>none of you will believe me but i was the man who started this trend of viola getting facefricked and leaving messy lipstick marks everywhere
This game is looking so good, I can’t wait to see Bayo and Jeanne kissing each other on the lips.
This. I don't care about anything else as long as they confirm that Bayonetta and Jeanne are a couple.
they crawl up each other's guts every night anon, I assure you anon
the hotel cleaner comes in the next day and gets high from the bed sheets
>the hotel cleaner comes in the next day and gets high from the bed sheets
I'm almost jealous. That sounds incredibly hot.
ywnbaw kys
>ywnbaw
Amen to that. I just want to watch Bayonetta and Jeanne fricking, nothing more. They were literally made for each other.
>I just want to watch Bayonetta and Jeanne fricking
Literal cuckold lmao
Just ham on ham with no salami makes a shitty sandwich
What are you, a homosexual? The lack of a wiener is the best part.
>NOOO, I NEED PENIS IN MY PORN!
homosexual.
How about you shove that salami up your ass while I eat a nice ham sandwich
Two hot girls kissing is a troony thing now? I think YOURE THE GAY ONE ANON
Its gay unless your dick is between their lips. Fricking cucks invading my incel videogame threads.
yurincels will seethe
>when you do nothing but browse Ganker all day 24/7 and can no longer have any original thought, just spouts memes based on superficial context clues like an AI
I'm pretty sure everyone knows they are friend with benefits.
Viola doesn't look like a troony but Jeanne sure as frick does. Get ready for the reveal.
I didn't like Loki.
I don't like Viola
I don't want to play as Luka.
I only want to play ad Bayonetta. Simple as.
Everything after Bayonetta 1 was a mistake, it makes Bayo 1 look like a happy accident or fluke. They've completely lost the plot.
>and now yuricucks
>BAYO FRICKING DIES
Yeah I know they showed it In the 2017 concept trailer but they'll show it in game too and I don't know how to feel about it.
what a dignified pose to out on
That image really shows how ugly B3 is. What the frick is wrong with Bayo's face?
She's being murdered by the big bad not going out for tea and crumpets
Where is her mole?
The villain stole it, which is what made her die.
It looks slow!
because its a simple demostration for a general audience
>NOOO BUT I NEED TO SEE MY DODGE OFFSET IN A TRAILER
frick up, moron.
who are you replying to?
the guy I quoted you mental midget
Yes? They should show advanced gameplay in a trailer, especially if they want to impress normalgays.
Why does it take these japs 10 years to make a worse Devil May Cry game with bad graphics?
what do you guys honestly feel about the gameplay? the controling the monster part looks clunky as hell but other than that, it seems to be more of the same.
Viola is cleary the easy mode option for beginners. kinda like Nero. hope Jeane is playable.
Nothing they've shown so far looks even remotely interesting. Everything just looks extremely slidey.
Hopefully, you'll be able to Dodge Cancel out of attack animations, so you can combine those fancy WW attacks. The combat will feel extremely automated otherwise.
Who the frick needs your Bayonetta with this bald moron in development if I do something cooler in the next 10 years - on the level of what I did for the first two Ninja Gaiden!
This dude was fun and knew how to make hardcore games but he burned too many bridges and is now enslaved by NFT overlords.
Ninja Gayden dies and was replaced by Nioh-likes (and that's a good thing, they are the superior games)
while i agree, i wouldn't mind some ninja gaiden news at all
though, why try making something good when you can crank up all the breasts on some low effort doa gatcha and make heaps of money anyway
wasnt he making some nft scam or something along the line?
what the hell is oatmeal cookie even doing these days
Bayonetta is so hot
Looks like something from 2011 like everything from Platinum Games
Oh yeah.
>replaced blood with green goo
lame.
>DMCV
>$8
>Bayonetta 3
>$60
?
>buying straight off steam
????
Why the frick does she say It's Bacon TIme?
Where's everybody going. Bingo?
Why would I ever play a Platinum game over DMC V? Especially with their graphics.
>why would i ever play a new game instead of one that released 3 years ago with no sequel in sight
I don't know anon, you tell me
From what I've read platinum games are just simplified versions of DMC. I don't get the appeal
you should play them
I hope r63 Raiden has monstergirl forms too
Imagine if shadman was still alive...
he is alive, just in jail, isn't he?
>He doesn't know
I would link you to the SJWfarms post but they're site is still down due to troony ddos
did he actually die?
its up, at least the tor version is
https://kiwifarms.st
http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyxcyd.onion/
>Blatantly bloated HP sponges for the demon summoning mechanic
>Demon summoning will be a must to get pure platinum
The whole genre died after DMCV
jesus christ m8 you're still trying?
give it a rest already, autism-kun
What were they thinking with this ugly design
Every character and every thing in Bayo 3 looks ugly as sin.
Fricking Kamiya. Girls like this are why I’m still a virgin. They disgust me. All prospective women I date MUST NOT:
>dye their hair unnatural colors
>cut their hair above their shoulders
>have piercing on any body part other than their ears
>have any tattoos
>listen to music made after 1999
>wear non-skin-tone makeup
>wear chokers
>use profanity
You will never date a woman.
I don’t think girls like that would want to date you though anon
>use profanity
Based. Vulgar women are unattractive as frick. Met a chick like that and was immediately turned off. Never texted her back or hung out again
It would be much easier just finding(or creating) your own waifu
did gomabura do something that wasn't incredibly gay?
>Girls like this are why I'm still a virgin
Nah, anon that's all on you.
Also it's funny you ask that a woman be pure and the like then you post a coombait pic of an anime girl in a loose nun outfit with head sized breasts and a navel piercing. Ask yourself if the kind of girl you just said you wanted was the kind of girl that would want you.
Some of your conditions are very easy to fulfill, but others seem unreasonable. I only known one girl that wears a choker, it's not common, but who hasn't listened to music past 1999 even on accident?
The only places you'd find women like these are very secluded religious communities, but why the frick would women from those communities date you or anyone here
My wife
Where the frick did these come from?
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/switch/axb7a/movie/index.html
Switch killed this game, what a shame.
Imagine if this game is on real fricking hardware, I can't even see shit on the street due to the all color bleeding and low resolution.
Blame Sony and cry about it
Yeah, it's Sony's fault (and not Platinum's incompetence) that Bayonetta 3 somehow looks worse than Bayonetta 2
>Goalpost moving
It wouldn't exist without Nintendo so I don't see your logic.
Well then maybe SEGA should front the bill next time and make it multiplat instead of spending it on another fricking Yakuza game.
sega can't even give sonic a good budget no way bayo is getting anything after the first game.
>another fricking Yakuza game
Yeah I get the appeal but I don't get why they make so many of those. Also:
>Yakuza Producer Thinks The Series Is Too ‘Underground’ And Violent For Switch
Frick nintendo for making their console this gay.
YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE FRICKING GAME THEN OTHERWISE NINTENDO WOULDN'T OWN THE PUBLISHING RIGHTS YOU moron.
Dont care about this franchise but overall thoughts:
>graphics look worse than DMC5
>surprised they are still allowed to use the word "slave"
>gameplay too flashy for my taste
>Bayonetta still is hot
>Viola is hot as frick in a trashy way
>they literally added a journalist mode where pressing 2 buttons wins the game
>they literally added a journalist mode
But Easy Automatic has been there since Bayo 1.
Fair enough. Thats pretty dumb though.
It was pretty funny when they showcased Easy Auto in Bayo 1.
They didn't give it the "you can play stylishly and focus on the story!" veil.
They flatly joked "it's so you can play Bayo one-handed hee hee hee."
The energy of infomercials with the ingenious spirit of phone games. Together at last.
Didn't know japs were making goyslop now though.
I love my non furry BADASS bawdwife.
>wink slave
>assault slave
oh no no this is getting problematic, kamiya-san
i want viola to leave lipstick marks all over my dick
And my butthole.
needs a joker edit
Inject with seman
I wonder why they didn't show off a masquerade form for Viola.
Are those green trees enemy spawns? And they actually removed the feet weapon slot, huh? Shame.
Where did they said they removed feet weapons? That would be one of the most moronic changes to make
Here. You can only equip one weapon on each slot, not two. See how the icon shows all the 4 guns together?
Well frick it's confirmed , they are fricking moronic, this and the VA change for Bayo is making me less and less excited for the game
filtered
Hellena Taylor is still in the game. She voices OG Bayonetta. This is Cereza from an alt timeline.
The weapon slot change is due to demon masquerade. Your abilities are more complex in this one.
>She voices OG Bayonetta.
Source? That's definitely just a (coping) rumor.
>Your abilities are more complex in this one
I highly doubt they'll be complex enough to justify removing one of Bayonetta's most iconic & important mechanics. If they don't bring it back in some way, this game will be worse than B2 by default.
>Source? That's definitely just a (coping) rumor
She was at the end of the second trailer. Are you deaf or moronic?
cope
no she wasn't, even in the new trailer you can see your headcanon evaporated as nu-bayo does the same incantation
NTA, but it sounded like her to me.
>even in the new trailer you can see your headcanon evaporated as nu-bayo does the same incantation
What are you referring to?
There's some footage of the original bayo here, although it has no audio.
?t=173
>m-muh voice agdors...
Never understood you morons, VO is fricking meaningless.
Bayonetta sounds hotter in the japanese dub
Frick no. Bayonetta without a British accent isn't sexy.
https://files.catbox.moe/ksfa1q.mp3
Damn
She's voiced by someone who's practically typecast as sexy older women.
Wow, first time a voice clip gave me a boner, tho the "bad boy" when getting pure platinum gets close
Sucks, but hopefully this means more expanded movesets.
Why are they doing this? Having two slots for hands/feet is one of the most unique things about Bayonetta
Probably because of the Demon forms. I feel like they could've worked something out instead of removing the mechanic completely, though.
Should you really care? I mean we know there is going to be multiple bayonettas, so maybe we will get different playstyles for each one of them. We know how the original bayo played, we know how the new one does and we still know nothing about the chinese version or jeanne.
Jeanne has always just been Bayonetta with tougher timings and extra damage. I doubt it'll be any different this time.
there's 3 playable characters and original bayonetta will use hands/feet
>Violas entire segment takes up less time than explaining a single one of Bayo's mechanics
Why the frick is she playable if they care this little.
Looks gimmicky as frick, which is a shame since 2 really lowered the gimmick/cutscne/instakill spam of 1 (where you legit have more QTE's or cutscenes per min than RE6).
Probably overlaps a lot with Bayo and they might want to avoid spoiling too much.
bayonetta? more like gayonetta
>daddy issues hair
oh no!
Looks really fun, what's the issue exactly?
>first game enemies: angels
>second game enemies: angels, but also demons
>third game enemies:
Is it a safe bet that bayo 3's enemies will be fairies? creatures of chaos as opposed to the other two realms. Either that or aliens, but fairies as they were understood in ancient times were basically medieval aliens.
Also why is the trailer narrated like it's target demographic is children? literally same tone as a pokemon gameplay trailer
it is targeting new players who are likely mario or zelda fans after all...
Oh right I forgot this was a Nintendo Switch franchise now
Well that's cool, I guess it's the human realm's time to be the villain
They're confirmed man made bioweapons.
Blue lipstick kisses on my face now bawd
Demon mechanic looks to be taken straight up out of Nioh, with maybe a bit of influence from V in DMC5. From the transformations to what appears to literally be a burst counter on large monsters, very Nioh inspired to me.
Aesthetically its a huge downgrade, only the angels look good and its because they are from the past games. The "DT" form looks fricking abhorrent.
Monsters look more passive than I've ever seen in Bayo, maybe the footage is from babby mode, but this shit looks DMC5 empusa tier.
Platforming in monster forms, meh, might be fun.
One button combos with an item equiped is a bad sign, focusing on literal movie gaymer casuals. Especially with the pass mobs, not looking good.
Wo Long's showcase has me more hyped than this game so far. If Bayo 3 doesn't have a NSIC that removes crutch time, then even the Bayo diehards will reject it just like they did with 2. Taking inspiration from the least fleshed out mechanic of Nioh 2 was probably not the thing to make a shining return with. Not impressed at all so far.
>Demon mechanic looks to be taken straight up out of Nioh, with maybe a bit of influence from V in DMC5
Feels more like they taking the scraps of scalebound and some stuff from Astral chain.
Could be, I never got a chance to play Astral Chain so I'm unsure if its like that game. HAving demon abilities and a burst counter-type thing just make me think of Nioh instantly.
How were Nioh 2's yokai abilities not fleshed out? Being able to cancel anything into them at any time was huge. I don't really see Bayo 3's resemblance to them anyhow beyond the demon counters being vaguely similar to yokai counters, it resembles Astral Chain more if anything. Platinum have been playing around with the concept controlling multiple characters at once for ages.
>One button combos with an item equiped is a bad sign
That's been there since the first Bayo
Most of the yokai abilties had basically no real good use, lots of awful hitboxes such as fuki because his gun clips through enemies, essentially all came down to dealing ki damage so nothing else mattered besides that, etc. However the abilties wern't really as bad as how poor the DT/Yokai counter were, which is what it feels like Bayo took inspiration from. I haven't played Astral chain, so no idea if its similar to that.
Does anyone know if it's one campaign switching between multiple characters like DMC5 or is it like Resident Evil 6 where each character has their own campaign? I'm not a fan of how DMC 5 did it, I enjoyed the gameplay but it felt messy and there wasn't enough time with Dante, so I just hope Bayo 3 has seperate campaigns so there's enough time with each character and it doesn't feel so messy. I love Bayonetta 1 and 2 but I don't wanna get too excited for 3 because it seems quite different so far.
The impression I get is that it's like DMC5, not sure if it's been confirmed anywhere.
Dante gets nearly half the game in 5.
Nearly half, yeah. That isn't enough time for me, I don't want to play as Nero or V.
I'm hoping it's like Transformers Devastation, where you can just choose whichever character you want to use, but I doubt it'll work that way. You'll probably be forced to play as Bayo/Viola the first time, and then you'll unlock character select after you beat the game or something like that.
Speaking of characters, I hope Jeanne doesn't get the short end of the stick this time. I hope she has some sort of unique mechanic (hopefully hand/feet slots, since Bayonetta doesn't have those anymore).
folder re-drop
not must saved it
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/12jtHuyXa-xpBXSx5Q9DC5RGXFTPnijz-
Madama butterlfy looks so fricking hot in this game holy shit
troonynetta.
Why is nobody talking about the new gameplay?
Can't see shit in the game its so colorful
thoughts on the demon summoning mechanics? it seems boring to just summon them and have them kill stuff while you watch, but having them in parries or at the end of combos seems better. i'm just worried between that and the new umbra time like mechanic everything is gonna be super easy to trivialize
why does platinum have to have the worst character design, the games are fun but I cant stand bayonetta or any of her shitty friends. I need paper bag face mask dlc.
Mental illness me no buy
sour grapes
so is there going to be any reason why they couldn't have just given Viola's weapon to bayonetta instead of contriving a new character? Place your bets
The obvious thing is Viola herself being more important. I guess having her be playable adds more than her being another mcguffin child like loki and Cereza
Not really. I feel like they just wanted a new character for the sake of having a new character. She'll probably be either underused or extremely forced.
Is that an Utena reference or just shojo in general
This pic reminded me that all the witches have this bodytype, even the most generic ones
Imagine finding your own cute 7 ft tall witch gf
I'm partially convinced that the Umbran Clan was just an insane lesbian sex cult (with Rosa being the only exception), so I don't think they'd ever date another human.
FRICK
Will we need to play as the other characters or can we just play as bayo
It seems like you will need to play as Viola at some point for story reasons.
It's going to be like V then? I hope they have character select after completing the game.
Yeah, but at least Viola seems like a fun character, unlike V. I'm sure you'll be to play the game as Jeanne later as well, so it isn't that much of a problem.
Did that trailer imply a playable Luka? I'd be down for that.
>Did that trailer imply a playable Luka?
Where?
Does she fricks shotas in the trailer? If not then I'm not interested
She fricked one in the last game, probably. That's good enough, right?
I'm pretty happy there's not 10,000 things happening each second like in 2. Between that, needing witch time for everything, and the climax balancing changes it was misery to replay. 3 is looking pretty good though I do think the summons are too slow and will be relegated to gimmick status once a player gets a hang of the other mechanics.
Holy shit why did this thread instantly devolve into some bullshit.
As for the video, what's with the childish tone?
>use different buttons to do punches and kicks
Who is this for? My mom?
The game looks fun but this focus on accessibility has me a bit worried. The whole aesthetic feels off. The composer of the first two games made it a rule to not use guitars, now this trailer has a generic pop rock song.
Bayo 1 & 2 each had very distinct artstyles
This one looks bland & low budget in comparison, like the alien enemies look like stuff from the unity asset store
I'm sure the gameplay will be amazing because it's Platinum, but I'm sad to see that the visuals are kind of half assed this time
By far my biggest disappointment. First two games were spot on with aesthetics. 3 looks more like NMH III than a Bayo sequel graphically. Sucks because 2 looked great compared to 1 it was just everything else that sucked.
Bayonetta 1 looked at least as good as 2. In trailers it looks like dog shit but the detail and atmosphere are great. Bayonetta 2 looks good on a surface level.
Most of the time it was fine but some of the areas looked like ass. Mainly the lava level, Paradise at night, and the city looked like a Playmobil set. Water also looked much worse which dragged down the Sapientia and Temperentia fights.
I do think 1's art and level direction were much stronger though. Climbing Ithavoll tower while fighting through every enemy in the game before concluding with running into that glowing globe with the atmospheric track playing was hype. Bayonetta 2 never let its foot off the brakes so it rarely felt like I was playing a level, just a bunch of set pieces stitched together. Only real exception was when you have to run around cracking the entrance to hell open.
2 had the Chain Chomp weapon so it is automatically superior. Shit I hope 3 has it return.
Meh, 2's aesthetics were a huge step down. There was nothing quite as memorable as Paradiso.
Why do you fricks give a damn for a side character? You can just not use it.
Is it weird that I've never found bayonetta very attractive? She's just not my type.
I think most men feel that way. She's entertaining regardless.
>He doesn't know that Platinum is pulling a Nero and we're going to play half the game with her.
not an issue if her gameplay is complex and fun
She'll only have 1 weapon from the looks of it. There's no way she'll be complex. If anything she'll play like Sam from MGR, who was just okay at best; nothing that complex.
do you think nero is too simple to enjoy out of curiosity
Compared to Dante? Absolutely.
Disgusting
Metal Gear Rising and Wonderful 101 were just an outlier.
Platinum was always incompetend.
They were the only bad Platinum games (excluding shovelware), so I suppose they were indeed outliers.
Anon, madworld, vanquish and bayo 1 and 2 exist, also 101 is shit
I just hope we don't have a Bayonetta 2 situation where the game's hard mode and infinite climax show us where the games faults truly are.
Bros...is it really happening? Is Platinum going to release a game with good gameplay again? It's been almost 10 years.
AWOKEN BY WHISPERS OF DESTINY
I miss Bayonetta's sexy jazz, but this one isn't that bad. Nothing will ever beat "BAYONETTA, YOU MYSTERY~" though.
That song always sucked dick and you know it
It's incredible. It matches the combat perfectly.
>Girl when you fight, it looks like a dance
That's quite literally what Dodge Offset is; you're "dancing" with the enemies. I love it.
A HUNDRED MILES AWAY I FEEL YOUR HEART
Pretty good, Mysterious Destiny is still the GOAT though.
I wonder what the moon-related licensed song will be this time around?
If it's not Dancing in the Moonlight I'm killing myself
>We get it on most every night!
IT BEATS FOR ME WE CAN NEVER BE APART
tomorrow is mine is better
ok do we have violas now?
I NEED TO THROAT FRICK VIOLA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
looks slow as frick compared to 2 and I'm not only talking about shitch framerates
Good. 2 was an ADHD zoomer game.
Bayonetta 2 was already slow compared to 1, so I'm not sure what your point is.
And now you can shut the frick up
Are the vocals different from how they used to be? I remember the songs being fun, not overly loud and dramatic.
no,you're probably refereeing to
No, I don't mean from trailer to trailer, I mean that the entire style of music changed compared to the older games. I phrased it in a confusing way.
I think the current music is shit and I'm very disappointed.
is she atleast a smelly pawg?
too many red flags, but it was fun watching the drama
>everyone screaming to kamiya on twitter that the game is censored since the first reveal
>he claims it isn't
>years later turns out it actually is, but the censorship is optional
they lost me at that and viola
if a completely optional mode for streamers was enough to somehow deter you chances are you weren't even very good at the game to begin with. i don't know what the actual frick you people are trying to prove with these types of comments. you remind me of the morons that screeched on twitter how they would never replay bayonetta 1 ever again because 2 was a ii u exclusive.
censorship cant be optional by definition
I thought I was so cool for noticing that none of the previous trailers showed bayo doing a wicked weave outside devil trigger only for it not to have meant anything. Good trailer though, I think it turned me around on demon summoning. Flows a hell of a lot better than I initially figured.
>2 Jeanne is sexy as frick
>Playing as her is pure ass cancer due to the WT and WW nerfs as well as requiring moth within dodges for WT sucks dick with 2's aggressive bosses and demons
>3 changing up combat so Jeanne might be fun again
>She's ugly as frick now
It's not fair.
honestly playing as jeanne in 2 is much better than bayo. At least jeannes wicked weaves do fricking SOMETHING. Jesus, bayonettas wicked weaves do zero damage, hitstun and knockback. What the frick were they thinking?
The damage multiplier is not enough. 1.5x of frick-all damage is still frick-all. The only thing it's useful for is being able to finish minibosses with one rotation of Umbran Climax, but it's not a fun mechanic to use in the first place.
50% percent faster is 50% faster and I recall more stun. Only thing bayo has going for her is easier time activating WT. but at least Moth within gives you more consistent WT length
That was one of the things that bugged me the most in Bayonetta 2. There was literally no reason to use Bayonetta over Jeanne or Rosa. She was so pathetically weak.
>she
Man, i forgot how weak the Switch is, that looks like early ps3 game, legit like its 10+ years old.
Kill
Can't wait to emulate it.
Game looks pretty fun. Having summoning available in combat and weapons giving access to different demon summon movesets/exploration options is neat. Viola very much seems like the Nero to Dante where it allows them to use a different aesthetic and personality as well as making things simpler for new players to the series while Bayonetta has added complexity since this is the third game.
Sucks that it's on Switch though. Looks pretty fugly. I guess it means my Switch will actually get some use though.
I miss Kamiya so much bros. What is he doing these days?
Shitposting on Twitter and seemingly working on Project G.G.
you know he wrote and acted as a special consultant on this game right
That doesn't mean much. Kamiya's writing is... something. Something really weird, but interesting. He has some cool ideas.
it means he was doing something recently which is what you asked about
>special consultant
Why didn't he consult anyone about wicked weaves being shit?
They look fixed in 3 thankfully
Was a bit confused by the trailer. You get both a devil trigger called demon masquerade that summons wicked weave limbs and also you can summon them as whole monsters?
And both can be combined with torture attacks?
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>I AM IN MY PROIME!
>pegi 16
>it used to be 18
Pegi ratings are absurdly strict. This basically means this game is for literal babies.
Well, at least Bayonetta still gets naked. Good enough for me.
except she won't?
Did you watch the trailer? She gets naked all the time.
I want to see nipples and pussy
>Viola doesn´t get naked
Lame.
so how is switch emulation these days? what are the chances of playable bayo3 day one?
Works better than an actual Switch
how does bayo2 emulate?
It's perfectly playable on Cemu. Not sure about the Switch emulators.
>best friend
Homonettagays BTFO
Yes, real best "friend" behavior right here.
Just accept that they're lesbians, man. Jeanne protected Bayonetta for over 500 years while she was in that lake. Not to mention that they literally live together. They also grew up in a place without any men around. There are simply too many signs.
>joke
>it's proof that it's real!!!111
Homonettagays incapable of humor?
Unless they straight up smooch on screen then she's a best friend, get over it.
Oh, uh-huh. What a hilarious joke. That's some cope if I've ever seen it.
What's cope is thinking 2 scenes of waking up someone is a sign of being gay.
So Future Trunks is gay for Gohan, alrighty then.
>waking up
Right, this is just "waking up". Listen, there are a lot of implications here. You can't deny that.
I bet you were one of those people who watched Frozen and though there were clear incest undertones.
I don't know what I'd do without riice's art. They're so good.
>best friend
this btfo's the yurincel
>gay never had a best friend
sad
OK this guy made me optimistic about the combat.
We can't say for certain until we get a demo, but it does seem like they're addressing things that sucked about 2, and the demon slave+masquerade systems actually do look interesting.
I'm a bit more sold on Viola, she looks neat enough not to drag the game down as long as you're not playing as her more than 30% of the time (unless she ends up having multiple weapons).
One thing I can't figure out is what the meter with 5 thingies in the top-left does. At one point bayo built a "bar" by doing a WW launcher. I never saw it go down during gameplay even when using demon slave or masquerade though.
Also for anyone wondering about OG bayonetta, check this out (spoilers probably)
?t=173
i just want violas song for now
>addressing things that sucked about 2
Raw weaves don't do shit to fatties, you still have to get WT to stun/displace them. And there's no (?) air juggle footage without WT so combo breaking still up in the air.
>I never saw it go down during gameplay
5 orbs for "Masquerade rage". It's literally an animation locked short burst of UC.
>Hashimoto's team nerfs weaves to force UC
>Miyata's team keeps nerfed weaves and nerfs UC to force MUH SUMMONS
I see a pattern here.
>you still have to get WT to stun/displace them.
At the very least the demon slave activation attack can launch fatties (https://youtu.be/EM1nSzTCgsQ?t=147). Looks like wink slave can too (https://youtu.be/U-SHVeW37cc?t=62). I think the magic meter mechanic where you lose a chunk but it turns pink (like red health in a fighter) might be to incentivize quickly using these attacks and going back to bayo so you get to keep the pink meter. I wouldn't be surprised if assault slave and masquerade can also launch big bois, depending on the demon you're using.
I couldn't actually find footage of a large lad getting hit by a WW outside of WT without also using wink slave, so uh... yeah not sure. But at the very least, launching large enemies isn't a witchtime-exclusive ability any more.
>Demon slave
Slow af and you have to get to the launching move in a chain (?).
>Wink slave
Slow af and probably has the same animation for each demon every time.
Gomorrah's one is a big swipe that launches towards the player. But maybe there's a launcher for the parrot or something.
>I think the magic meter mechanic where you lose a chunk but it turns pink (like red health in a fighter)
Probably, but it's only for non-context summoning, Wink and Assault don't have the red chunk and have a cost of about its initial length.
>to incentivize
It's one of the selling points, of course they jumping out of their pants want to incentivize it.
3:34, looks like slave meter is starting to regenerate on its own just after she-phantom deactivation.
>I couldn't actually find footage of a large lad getting hit by a WW outside of WT
1:45
I wonder if there's some drawback to using masquerade in combat, it looks like you can activate it at no cost (which makes sense considering its overworld uses). I'd guess you lose access to some stuff while in it.
>Slow af and you have to get to the launching move in a chain (?)
It's not slow, it comes out immediately. Check the timestamp I posted, activating demon slave makes the demon perform an initial attack, gomorrah's launched two big boys.
>Wink slave
>Slow af
Again not really, it comes out right after the weave.
Demon slave and wink slave both come with the pink bar, assault slave doesn't have the initial "chunking", the meter ticks down from the very top.
>It's one of the selling points, of course they jumping out of their pants want to incentivize it.
My point was more that they specifically want to incentivize using it quickly and then swapping back to bayo if you want to play optimally. Which seems more fun than standing there dancing while your demon does stuff.
In any case this seems fine to me, we know there's multiple good ways to launch large enemies, and there could very well be other methods like breaking their poise. I'm not worried about this aspect of the combat any more.
>I wonder if there's some drawback to using masquerade in combat
It doesn't seem like it. It gives a lot of combo points, so every other "drawback" is meaningless, if there even is one.
That would be a pretty basic oversight on their part, to add an ability that you should just always use that has no downsides or cost.
Sounds like something I'd expect out of Platinum.
I mean if they were gonna go full moron like that they would have made bayo invincible while doing her ebin demon summoning dance, but instead the demon goes poof if she gets hit during it.
My favorite thing about the game is that I can see elements of almost every game platinum has ever made being put to use here.
It's too early to tell, but if the gameplay holds up this could be their magnum opus.
Particularly AC
>defensive summoning mechanic that looks like it's basically perfect call
>alternate between controlling your summon and controlling your character, have to keep character protected
>mobility options of masquerade feel like riding the dog or equipping the arm legion
But really I suppose the primary comparison for summoning ought to be Scalebound.
Then viola feels a bit like Raiden with the parries. IDK if there's any W101 or transformers stuff.
>awakened by whispers of breast milk
if witch time on dodges still happens on NSIC the game is doa, I really hope platinum is not moronic enough to make that stupid mistake again
also please no more random combo breaks from enemies
>NSIC
Hmmm? The issue with Bayo 2's combat is that it felt like they didn't do anything better than the first game and this game is already looking more unique in how it plays.
no, the issue was them completely fricking up the combat system by making you rely on WT to be able to fight stuff effectively instead of the game being played mostly without it by NSIC. yes new stuff is good but if they don't fix the underlying issue it won't save it
People have been analyzing the footage and thus far there doesn't appear to be any indication of WT being mandatory or enemies just fricking your combos, so... fingers crossed.
I will hope for the best but expect nothing, platinum has been way too inconsistent for me to get hyped these days
Yeah, but all the footage we've seen so far are definitely not on the highest difficulty, so analyzing it is pointless.
I wouldn't say pointless. It's not impossible they'll say
>how should we change the gameplay on higher difficulties intended for more hardcore players?
>let's frick it up the exact same way we fricked it up last time that they've complained about vocally for 8 years!
...but I don't think it's very likely.
If bayo 3's core combat has major mechanical mistakes, I suspect they'll be new mistakes, considering how much they're shaking things up.
Do they listen to what western fans b***h about though, and do Japanese fans also complain about it as well? Bayo 2 is still widely considered better than 1 even if it doesn't deserve to be, because it arguably is if you're only going to play each once or twice which is the case for most people.
I'm not so sure if this new director understands Bayonetta very well, so honestly, they might repeat the same mistakes again. I'm hoping they don't, but it seems very likely so far, even if Kamiya is more hands-on this time.
Our last hope for some of these aesthetic issues are bonus character costumes that replicate the looks of the other games.
Ok ok hear me out: Viola costume with long messy unkempt hair.
I don't care about the hair, but this character design is really weak, and nowhere near up to par for this series.
The frick happened to the VA
>Demon Raven
>Wink Raven
>Assault Raven
ftfy
Hire me as a localizer, SEGA.
Cool. Won't buy now that DMC is back.
What kind of line of thought is that? Even in a scenario where Bayonetta, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden were active franchises with 10/10 releases and were still getting cool games like Metal Gear Rising, Viewtiful Joe, and Godhand, you would only touch DMC when it releases like once or twice a gen?
I'm not talking about these other franchises though. Bayonetta is the only derivative enough to make me ignore it once its superior predecessor came back. The world, characters, combat, music and artstyle are so much worse compared to DMC and I only indulged with Bayo because DMC was dead for so long.
>world
DMC has the most generic interpretation of hell ever. Everything else is a grey, boring mess.
>characters
They're literally generic anime characters, but sure.
>combat
Subjective, but I don't like DMC's combat. I don't like the enemy design, and I don't think the combat is as good as people say.
>music
DMC's soundtrack has been shit since 3. Generic metal with screaming in the background is not good.
>artstyle
DMC has no art style. DMC4 was just FF, and DMC5 is just realistic garbage.
You're free to like DMC if you want to, but you're still a homosexual nonetheless.
>Argument boils down to "n-nuh uh"
Holy cope. So this is the power of the world's biggest Bayonetta shill who can't even bring up one good point about the thing he is defending lmao
*My* "argument" boiled down to "nuh uh"? You didn't even bother explaining what makes DMC better. You just said "DMC does X and Y better than Bayonetta, and I'll not elaborate any further."
You could've at least said some bullshit like "Bayonetta is just PKP spam", but no, you didn't even try.
Never-ending garbage taste
people keep sayin shes nero but shes more like raiden
Choker = code for troony
whats wrong with shameless consuming die mad im buying the game cause i think its cool
Looks tighter than the butthole of a 4 years old, definite must play
oh yeah i remember the bayonetta marketing team shilling this dyke shit for days.
12 years after the original game. literally zero graphical improvement. I don't want to hate but god damn it nintendo you cheap fricking buttholes.
Blame switch hardware limitations, Bayo 1 and 2 still look great, but 3 looks rough.
>literally zero graphical improvement
moron alert
You're right, it actually looks worse than Bayo2. Congrats to Platinum for this graphical achievement!
2 proves that even just an art upgrade makes all the difference. The dull gray of the original game is replaced with vibrant color and it makes all the difference.
3 seems to be trying to go for the same idea 2 had but with a shittier artstyle and design sense for Bayo enemies.
God, she really gives off Poochy vibes. That "cool" and "spunky" new character to try and artificially inject new life into the franchise.
A story involving the multiverse ALWAYS seems to go down this route without fail.
She's a joke character though that Bayo will probably constantly make fun of.
i think shes consider in their training so completely clumsy but hard headed
It's not super attractive, but I'm starting to feel like that kind of fits. Bayonetta in 1 was this giraffe-proportioned runway model with a crazy beehive, she wasn't attractive in the same way you normally expect of a Japanese game heroine. Viola is in a similar boat except with a full-on punk aesthetic instead of the fashion model aesthetic.
The big reason it worked with Bayo is because she sold it with her personality and mannerisms. Jury's out on if Viola can pull it off as well.
i think she might be the bayo 1 luka equivalent but this bayo isn't that little wienertease prostitute
this girl at first glance was such a turn off and eye sore but the newer video made me lighten up a bit after seeing how she plays and her attitude.
i expect her to grow a lot through out the game which will kinda make her second if not most important
Just can't wait to play this