Be honest, how much longer does PC gaming have?

Be honest, how much longer does PC gaming have?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People have been saying that for the past 20 years and the market is bigger than ever and growing each year.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1½ years, 2 months and 15 days

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        shut the fuck up CHUD

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh shit guys he posted a wojak time to pack it up our games literally won't launch anymore

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        soul

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's been pronounced dead in the 90s, then the 2000s, then FOR SURE in the PS3 era, then it's been certainly dead in the early 2010s because of the iPhone, and now it's dead again (for no particular reason at all, just so). All the while, by sheer numbers, the PC game market has been expanding more than ever.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It survived the PS360 era only thanks to Steam, every big company was ready to leave the PC market forever.
        And by "survived" I mean "PC gets AAA games", it would've been the best platform for indies and competitive games regardless.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          during the "PS/360" era WoW alone had more market cap than both consoles combined. And thats a single game.

          Even now something like League of Legends is bigger than the entire PS5 market

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And League isn't exactly AAA now, is it? We're saying the same thing: it would've survived as the best platform for competitive multiplayer games, but it wouldn't get most AAA single-player titles, especially those from Japan.
            But now, thanks to how huge Steam is, PC gets everything: there's basically no reason to own a console anymore. This wasn't the case 15-20 years ago, if you wanted a "comprehensive" gaming experience you needed at least a PS2.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              no. LoL is absolutely not AAA lmao. In what world are you living lol.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah? That's what I wrote lmao, it's not AAA.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                LoL is the 7th most played game world wide, above GTA5 and Valorant and Overwatch combined.

                You sound like a moron tbqh

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know what AAA means. League is not AAA, and neither are Valorant or Overwatch. Of the ones you mentioned, only GTA5 is.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                AAA meaning
                >is an informal classification used to categorise games produced and distributed by a mid-sized or major publisher
                RIOT games is not a "mid-sized or major publisher"?
                your moronness is showing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                AAA means it costs a lot to make, it has nothing to do with who produces or publishes it. Or how much money it ends up making.
                League was made by a bunch of random dudes back in 2007-2009 and even now it costs almost nothing to maintain: they release a bunch of skins every two weeks, a new character every few months, some random events here and there.
                The same goes for Valorant or Overwatch, they are small multiplayer-only games that launched with like 6 maps.

                Patapon is an AAA game because it's produced and published by Sony? Man, I can't wait to play my favourite AAA videogame: Clubhouse Games for the Nintendo Switch, produced and published by Nintendo. Minecraft is owned by Microsoft now, is that AAA as well?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Multiplayer-only doesn't mean it's not AAA and launching with not that many maps is pretty much the norm for multiplayer shooters. If you're looking at something with the amount of polish Overwatch had (doesn't mean it's necessarily a good game), complete with big CGI animations promoting it, and claiming it's not a big budget game then you are really talking crap.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                AAA has always been defined by budget and production values. It has nothing to do with how many employees a studio has. A studio can have 100+ employees but never produce anything. Drop the racism as well it's not helping your non-argument.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >overwatch not AAA
                Ok I was sort of with you but now you're completely going full retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who gives a fuck about AAA these days?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea anymore. I pirate some games but in the grand scheme of things a few thousands games isn't much. I haven't bought much over the last 10 years because my own intranet has things I've never seen before. When you're at this point the obsession over the classification becomes moot point. You always have an option, there is always dopamine to get and you don't have to pay for any of it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I do. I played Elden Ring and Monster Hunter Rise+Sunbreak this year, and I can't wait for RE4 Remake and Monster Hunter 6. FF16 seems interesting as well, but we'll see. Both God of War 2 and Dragon's Dogma 2 seem like games I would like, but I haven't played their prequels yet so they are a "maybe" for now.
                That's all AAA stuff. Are you going to say these games are shit now?

    • 2 months ago
      Fondaled

      In fact quest 2 is causing a resurgence

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >20 years
      Dude, people were saying the PC market (Apple II, DOS, Amiga) was dying in the late 80's dude because of NES.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If anything consoles are in trouble since they are just worse PCs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/XuynATi.png

      Be honest, how much longer does PC gaming have?

      >PC games die
      >replaced by Steam Deck which lead to all other consoles dying
      We can't stop winning

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        sounds like everyone loses

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Steam Deck = PC

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >which lead to all other consoles dying
        if only

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >PC games die
        >replaced by PC
        huh?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Closed, uncustomizable system controlled by a single manufacturer is against everything the Personal Computer stood for. Might as well buy Macbooks at that point.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like you don't know shit about the Deck.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >WOO I CAN UNSCREW THE SSD! GO VOLVO!
              It's this close to being a Mac, a single screw. Where's my big box with removable parts? Where's my retailer stocking parts from different manufacturers? You buy a Valve PC from the Valve Store, all hardware goes through Valve, familiar?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's this close to being a Mac, a single screw. Where's my big box with removable parts? Where's my retailer stocking parts from different manufacturers? You buy a Valve PC from the Valve Store, all hardware goes through Valve, familiar?
                That's not something that's inherent to the Steam Deck, you could upgrade and change parts if manufacturers decided to make them, just like with other PCs.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As long as Valve doesn't make the actual big box with such standardized parts, any attempt to shill the Deck as a full PC replacement is an attempt to replace the Personal Computer with a Valve Computer, no difference from an Apple Computer. Sorry, but the "Everyone must follow Valve and produce Valve-compatible parts" ship sailed away with IBM 40 years ago.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If the handheld PCs continue to become more popular then more parts will likely become standardized, just like with laptops.

                Ironically if Valve did end up replacing the PC then the PC ecosystem as a whole would become more free, because of Linux. But that obviously won't be happening any time soon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good cause, but you're still shilling a Mac-equivalent of freedom.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing the free market can't solve. Speaking of markets, how well are Mac desktops doing anyway?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm guessing they're raking in big bucks and market share in the "Video Editor with infinite budget" segment, which doesn't matter that much in the big picture, but we'll see.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Closed, uncustomizable system
            Do you mean the hardware? It makes sense when you consider the form factor, sockets and slots for standard PC parts would take a lot of extra space, not to mention the thermals because the coolers are obviously designed for very specific hardware.

            Software-wise it really is just a standard PC except that it ships with a Linux distro preinstalled, you can do anything you want with it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are multiple companies making parts for the deck, for example, hall sensors sticks: https://www.amazon.com/Drifting-Electromagnetic-Thumbstick-AKNES-Replacement/dp/B0B31STJDH
            ALL electrical components outside the APU can be found online to replace them if they ever fail, even the one that looks like it will fail the most (PMIC) is only $1.2 USD online.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's been said several times but it seems particularly tone deaf now. Zoomies don't give a shit about consoles, they all want to build or buy PCs like their favourite twitch streamer has.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp, sony and MS are actually losing money from the low software sales on their consoles right now

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1½ years, 2 months and 15 days

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    two more weeks

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does one even play on a phone?
      I finally got a modern one and wondered, but there's only Genshit, Cowadoody, Pubg some racing game and Minecrap and now I just emulate stuff.
      Are there no actual dedicated good phone games? Seems like a missed oppurtunity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All those F2Ps are the biggest money makers.

        >According to NewZoo, 85% of the video game industry’s revenue comes from free-to-play games and their microtransactions. The bulk of the most popular mobile games are all free-to-play games and this is why they take a much bigger slice of the pie.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >85% of the video game industry’s revenue comes from free-to-play games and their microtransactions
          This is so much worse than I could have possibly imagined.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What a fucking shame.
          With the touch screen, cameras, GPS, QR code scanner and tilt sensor one could make fantastic gimmick games.
          Just look what Pokemon GO did with just GPS and the camera.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've got Super Auto Pets that I play at work with co-workers, slay the spire for flights, and OSRS for skilling. Only thing that cost anything was slay the spire and I only purchased it because of the PC version. The sales have to be coming from koreans/chinese/japs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea that's due to gacha mainly.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        People don't pay for good games, they pay for jpegs or 3d models with different textures collectors.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are ~~*tech mags*~~ so keen on killing PC in favor of mobile? Everyone knows mobile games will never replace PC

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Liberals hate PC gaming because it's harder to take down games you can download from the internet rather than being forced to use a game store like PSN or XBL.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        mobiles are the next step for greater transhumanism and wetware slavery in game theory

        simple as that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's just clickbait
        >why your next phone will be an android
        next month
        >why your next phone will be an iphone

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Liberals hate PC gaming because it's harder to take down games you can download from the internet rather than being forced to use a game store like PSN or XBL.

        It's for licensing, censorship and Copyright reasons.
        Without the PC, there's less ways of jailbreaking/rooting phones, downloading things people don't like, pirating the console shit, making nude mods and making things for a platform without the express permission and fees of Nintendo, Sony, etc.
        There's too much freedom on PC, and that's all it really comes down to.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > source: projection

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's useless anyway since it counts all consoles as one platform.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except this is wrong
      they consider "mobile gaming" to be any game thats on a mobile, even if people playing them on an emulator on their computer
      all of the big gacha whales spending hundreds of thousands of dollars do it on a PC, while also occasionally doing it on a mobile.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      99% of people don't spend a cent on mobile games they only touch on the bus.
      Literally everyone with a phone registers in the "mobile gaming" market, but it's not a real thing, very few people play mobile games seriously and frequently.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >chinks spends millions of dollars on gacha trash
      >"LE PC GAMING IS HECKIN DEAD"
      meanwhile in the civilized world, no one plays mobile shite

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be gaymer
    >play battlefield V fucking amazing graphics
    >half of the squad are female chinks, female blondes, a couple of moron and only 2 white males (there are not even hispanics it's okay I can play with whites then)
    >play battlefield 2042
    >squad is filled with soiboys and a fucking flying moron, a spy cunt chink, a blonde swedish lesbian looking female
    >decide to play FIFA 22, there is no way they can go woke
    >game updates
    >HELLO WE REMOVED EVIL LE RUSSIAN TEAM AND PLEASE DON'T BE RACIST
    >another fifa update
    >big black message as soon as you start game: DON'T BE RACIST & SUPPORT LGBT
    >decide to play cs:go
    >female skins everywhere and valve bans you if you call another player moron or bitch
    >play league of legends
    >it has become league of LGBT wokies
    >play dota
    >game feels dead
    >decide to play DBZ fighterz
    >servers are empty despite it being a good fighting game in my opinion
    >play Red Dead Redemption 2
    >they removed the ability to punch feminists and other stuff that were "problematic"
    >go to twitch to watch some streamers and relax a bit
    >AMOURANTH NAKED BIKINI TESTING IN HOTTUB INSIDE ROOM AWSM HEROTIC SOUNDS
    >female "gamers" showing clevage being awful at games while promoting their onlyfans
    >decide to go on YouTube
    >explore videos
    >it's all moron lgbt content + wet ass pussy + gayry K-pop and funky pop reviews
    >go to youtube gaming, it's so fucking dead
    >decide to keep focusing on programming
    >company makes us go through 2 hours long LGBT trans and feminist webinar
    >go to github to contribute to some open source proyects
    >#SUPPORT UKRAINE, CODE_OF_CONDUCT.MD, LGBT CODING
    >go to twitter go see what's trending in my country
    >full of corrupt politics and LGBT gays protesting because daddy government doesn't transition them for them nor allows gay marriage and somehow this is our #1 political priority
    >decide to watch some TV
    >animal planet is now reality shows of people with dogs & cats that do not "behave"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Touch grass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>they removed the ability to punch feminists and other stuff that were "problematic"
      I just bought this shit, tell me it can be modded or something

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        pirate an earlier version of it and refund it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          fucking hell

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >battlefield
      >fifa
      >csgo
      >league
      >dota
      >console games
      should probably kys normalfag. PC gaming is not for you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In Skyrim you can't punch kids. Devs are pretty much saying feminists are children if you think about it. But yeah you pretty much got the irony about twitch streamers and games here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >decide to watch some TV
      >animal planet is now reality shows of people with dogs & cats that do not "behave"
      This one is actually the worst. All I wanted was neat animal documentaries, but now its all about white women and their fucking cats. They could at least rerun old stuff but no, ratings are so far in the toilet they can only appeal to 50 year old housewives and wine aunts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can’t imagine being conservative in 2022. Just in a constant stage of meltdown and panic over fucking everything lmao.

      Like just losing their shit. Breathing hard. Standing up from their chairs and walking around holding their heads. Why? A brown person was added to their favorite videogame franchise. Or there’s two seconds of a gay kiss in le epic summer blockbuster franchise.

      If Scorsese makes a movie where the protagonist is a gay man I predict at least 46 suicides from these bros.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yet its your people with the massively high suicide rates.. Its so weird!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Yet its your people with the massively high suicide rates
          don't make fun of mayos having a disproportionately higher amount of suicides compared to other races please.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You sure about that chud?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Under the law, especially in 2017, trannies are considered male still. And all trannies are leftshits.

              Trans women are women according to the CDC. The stats are the same in 2019 too.
              Try again CHUD.
              https://www.cdc.gov/lgbthealth/transgender.htm

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lets not forget which race and gender consumes the most child pornography.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The FBI is the primary trafficker of CP on the internet, the only people they're going to arrest for it is political dissidents who get CP planted on their hard drive and retards who fall for the honeypot websites.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So political dissidents with CP planted on their hard drive like I just said?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you were any more delusional you'd be a chud. The right has been grooming and molesting kids since the 90s. Remember Waco?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                All of those alleged offenders are Br*tish, all that says is that the Br*ts are just as fucked as we already knew they were

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >according to the CDC
                I trust the opinion of my local crack hobo more than the CDC

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Here on Ganker we trust the science

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Under the law, especially in 2017, trannies are considered male still. And all trannies are leftshits.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >constant stage of meltdown and panic

        >one anon just bitches mildly about a lot of things wrong with media
        >WOW WHAT A MELTDOWN

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its just a shame. They have all these tools and they waste it for stupid stuff like that. They also ruined some really great licenses with woke shit for no reason at all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      to play cs:go
      skins everywhere and valve bans you if you call another player moron or bitch
      I call people moron/bitch/etc. in cs go and never got a ban, retard

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    High end PC gaming is dying along with AAA gaming.
    On the other hand Low end PC gaming is thriving along with the indie scene.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC gaming will never be as dead as it was in the late 90's and early 2000's

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      id rather be dead than undead

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >PC
      >Dead late 90s early 2000s
      What timeline are you from?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      PC's worst era was the late 00s-early 10s.

      Things were bangin in the 90s

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        early 10s? What? How?
        Every shitty PC could destroy everything released on consoles, and it was one of my favorite times as a PC gamer

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Early 2010s just did not have much going for them.
          All my friends were playing LoL which was Bleak.
          I was mostly playing Warband, Source and worst of all, World of Tanks.
          Late 2000s were worse, probably the worst, unless some oldfags can speak about late 80s and early 90s.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was a shitty era for normalfags yeah maybe

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              c'mon, elaborate what I missed in PC gaming during early 2010s.
              Early 2010s understood as 2010 till 2013

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not really, 2008-2012 is exactly when PC gaming started becoming mainstream, thanks to cheap hardware and even cheaper software.

            Wait for 4000 series GPUs
            They require new PSUs
            Also the new DDR memories aren't supported well yet

            >Wait for 4000 series GPUs
            Good idea. Or Radeon 7000, we don't know which one is going to be better yet.
            >They require new PSUs
            Only the absolutely highest-end, $2000 graphics cards will draw insane amounts of power. XX60 and XX70 models will be as power efficient as they've always been.
            >Also the new DDR memories aren't supported well yet
            They are relatively slow (still as fast or faster than DDR4) and expensive because they are new, it doesn't mean they aren't "well supported". And there's nothing stopping you from buying an old-gen processor and pairing it with a next-gen GPU: it's fine, CPUs are almost never a bottleneck in modern games.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >PC's worst era was the late 00s-early 10s.
        >early 10s.
        Are you talking about the period where SSD's were finally cheap and large enough to store your OS and a few of your most played games? Where most people were playing at native 108p already while consoles struggled with 900p med settings from 2013-2017? the period were multicore CPU's and graphics cards kicked the shit out of anything in consoles?
        And you think that was a "dark period". Where you even alive or paying attention then?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Playing what, exactly?
          Minecraft?
          Console ports?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Minecraft?
            >Console ports?
            I can see that no matter what examples I give you won't accept because your mindset is firmly planted in nostalgia for a time when you didn't have a PC because you were still blissfully ignorant in normalfag land. Have a nice day anon

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I wanted to find articles from 1990s claiming PC is dying,
              instead I found pic related.
              Too lazy to archive, heres the link
              skepticink.com/incredulous/2015/09/07/a-brief-history-of-the-death-of-pc-gaming/

              Examples, now.
              Games, give me games.
              If you believe playing R&L for Source and M&M for Warband are normalfag games, then there is no helping, but list at least something esoteric you seem to be implying I missed during early 2010s

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It was a shitty era for normalfags yeah maybe

              Must be a really long list of PC games from early 2010s if you are still compiling it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Must be a really long list of PC games from early 2010s if you are still compiling it
                You're so desperate to argue with someone that you haven't even made your argument clear. PC gaming in 2010-2014 sucked because you were stuck playing nothing but Warband and Sourcemods? Really?
                >MMO's were still relevant before complete themepark dopamine rollercoaster kicked in
                >2011/2012 had superior version of BF3, the only version that had full 64P conquest
                >Starcraft II and even Brood War was still relevant, satistfying both tradition and new.
                >CS:GO had come out of beta in 2012, Counter-Strike only works on PC as everytime they've tried to port it to consoles they've half assed it and the controls and pacing just don't keep people around
                >Dota launched in 2012, Moba's can only be done properly on PC. LoL also one of the biggest pc games
                >all with superior communication tools.
                Games that you can only play on pc, and superior multiplats. I know you're going to turn around and literally deny what the platform was at the time because your limited view, and all I can say is that I'm sorry that you were stuck playing Warband and source mods but your experiences literally does not equate to what people were doing on PC at the time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You called me a normalfag for playing normalfag games, and then you mention normalfag games?
                Do you think I am comparing early 2010s with consoles and not with what came before and after for PC? I don't give a fuck about consoles.
                I was aware of all of these.
                I also played CS:GO beta, I didn't mention it because I expected you to go
                >hurr durr normalfag
                >>MMO's were still relevant before complete themepark dopamine rollercoaster kicked in
                In late 2010s? really? After a onslaught of "WoW"killers in late 2000s? I liked LOTRO, but c'mon on.
                Fine, Guild Wars 2, and uhh, Cataclysm, and uhh, TOR, and uhh, Star Trek Online. MMOs still had something in the tank, and I guess its better than the seemingly endless
                >This Korean MMO will SAVE the genre
                that we have had for the past 5 years or more
                >Starcraft II and even Brood War was still relevant,
                Starcraft II, okay, you can also mention DoW2, but Brood War is not relevant here, it was active in 2010s sure, but it was active throughout 2000s as well, lets contain ourselves to early 2010s, because that can be said even for 1.6
                >superior version of BF3
                Yea, I was busy playing PR and FH2, sorry bro, I am too normalfag for playing BF3.
                >Dota launched in 2012, Moba's can only be done properly on PC. LoL also one of the biggest pc games
                I still can not believe you threw around "normalfag" like that. Was HoN still active, or dead by then?
                You could have extrapolated and covered all the F2P games that came out during this time, like WT and WoT and TF2 going F2P, and countless others F2P games that are dead now, including aforementioned MMOs

                So in early 2010s, there was SC2 and DoW2 for RTS, once a genre that would get 3 major tittles a year in late 90s/early 2000s, but at least we got MOBAs now.
                MMOs still had a strong draw on the PC, excluding the classic RPGs we got newcomers on the F2P front and return of Planetside 2
                Valve making its last batch of vidya
                V G H, so this is peak PC gaming

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        2005 to 2010 was the golden age.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >golden age of MMOs
      >PC gaming is dead

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ConsoleCHADS keep winning!

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forever.
    Meanwhile, consoles are dying

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    video games in general are dying...or at least, heading for another crash.

    Pay-to-Win (P2W) is becoming more and more acceptable every year. Pay-to-Earn (P2E) is on the rise, and will likely destroy what little good is left in both customers and companies.

    A lot of people upgraded their PCs for Cyberpunk 2077 - which ended up being, in many ways, a massive disappointment and a shitstain on the industry and community still two years later.

    With almost everyone going digital, there's no real ownership of games anymore. Digital is a 'promise' that can be taken away at any time for any number of stupid reasons. Exclusives are going away.

    Nintendo might live on, but the big companies will eventually kill themselves. Ubisoft and Activision's days are officially numbered.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nintendo is beginning to diversify into a multimedia company as even they know that gaming as an industry is beginning to crumble apart.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice r-eddit spaces but you are right. There is no hope as a whole.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that how consolemorons cope?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >book reading simulator
      you will never be a real life fighter pilot

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be a woman, chud.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Neither will you, go fight the big bad russian guy if you're so keen on it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have Google Earth on my phone, too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice cope.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exactly two more weeks.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring sold on PC x4 time more than on Xbox and very close to the PS4/5 versions.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PC gaming is dying

    More like console to be fair. The console market is splitting into PC and mobile division. This was set in motion with the ps3/360 gen.

    Consoles in the future will be PC's but with logos on them for the remaining brandcucks who hasn't fully transitioned.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      PC is all digital so I'll never transition to PC gaming.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some will forego the hobby ofc.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I-I won't give in!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      having an isolated operating system that you don't need to personally maintain and customize is a convenience choice, it's not brandcucking. a lot of people consider customize to be a good word but what it really means is time consumption which ultimately spoils your eagerness to spontaneously play a game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's what I foresee the PC's with logos will be. Locked down systems with guidance/"tv-friendly" UI so the users won't have to think.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          thats what they already are anon.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this question ironic, anon, or are you actually fucking retarded?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    AAA games have been on decline. The garden gnomes will make sure most of the soul from things will be gone eventually, it's part of the demoralization strategy. But if you like playing milsims like EFT and maybe other (serious) indie games that aren't 8-bit shit, then you might have some extra years.

    But if all goes well, garden gnomes will eventually be replaced by another group anywhere between 10-20 years, so if there will eventually be a 5-10 year hiatus, the PC gaming will eventually return once a different group (with different power structure and backers) have taken their place (no not talking about WN/WS/n*zis , but probably chinese or some other group we don't know of yet).

    >inb4 cope
    these things go in cycles. the current group has ruled for quite some time, survivors of atlantean civil war, Troys got BTFO by greeks and they later went to create roman empire, which then spread accross the globe and most of western hemisphere. They've been around for quite a while but their time will eventually end.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >garden gnomes garden gnomes garden gnomes garden gnomes

      [...]

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you took time read the post, you would've realized that they get their power from somewhere, and this somewhere is going to be running out of their cycle in next decade or two.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Console gaming too, this is what happens when instead of games you make a 'cinema experience' without optimization.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now you gotta divy it up by 3 for the console market, though you can count 2/3 together as Xbones and PSnogames are multiplat machines for little extra investment on the dev side (and also PC, which is why you get more ports, cheap). Switch is just off in its own world printing enough money, but it's basically a gaming phone without the phone capabilities.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Asian market and the western market is not really comparable. Gacha is not no big in the west as it is in the east.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mobile games only have gacha
        Ok retard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Those goyslops are even worse than gacha games anon, you're not reinforcing your position.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Most of these are completely free too. Pull the pin, 100 mystery buttons and so on you can't really spend much money on in the first place.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          many of these are also on PC though... so they are mobile games or PC games?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If they're made for phones they're still mobile games, just with PC support.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              how does one define "made for phones"?
              is genshin impact a mobile game? or a PC game?
              it came out on PC before mobile (albeit only a day)
              is it mobile or PC?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stop pretending to be retarded. Mobile games are games intently designed for mobile devices. It doesn't matter if they came out for PC a day earlier or a year later.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I understand what you are saying, and agree with it
                but this this fucking chart makes 0 clarification of what it considers a mobile game
                if someone plays a mobile game on PC and spends money on it on PC, how is the mobile market bigger because of that if that person exclusively plays it on PC
                do console port sales count towards console games?

                its fucking retarded and misleading.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This chart will clearly explain that these are the top games downloaded from mobile stores. And if you can't understand that, you're an idiot.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >24% of your market wants a product on their platform
      >ignore them and all hyper compete in flooded mobile space of 51% because the number is bigger
      This is why tech mags shouldn't try to into economics.c

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC gaming was dead from mid 2000s till mid 2010s, valve saved it

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's been over for about 3 years.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dying according to whom?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing dying is console gaming.
    The only console that is selling good numbers is the Switch and it's made for fags, toddlers, women and casuals.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pc are multi-purpose, modular, and dynamic
    >consoles are only for games, any other added functionality is a gimmick for massive cope
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would PC gaming be dying? PCs are never going away simply because people need them to work on, and since you already have it and gaming is 1 of the biggest hobbies out there, there will always be people who want to game on their PC.
    At most PC hardware will become obsolete when streaming games actually works so everyone will go back to all in one shitty workstations.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gaming started with consoles and it will end with consoles.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gaming started with consoles
      No it didn't.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        let the consolecuck dream anon, it's all he has

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        NES onwards is all that matters.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          lmao whole genres existed even before nes showed up

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure but the NES saved gaming.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              in clapistan*

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do the idiots who write this stuff get paid, as in have an actually monthly salary, or they get a cut on the ads shown in that page?

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its definitely better than what it was during late 2000s/early 2010s which I think was the lowest point, but at the same time it feels that actual high effort modding projects have shrunk in number, but thats more to do with liberalization of gamecreation where why would you work for free to mapke a TC mod when you can just go straight to making your own game.

    Going back to actual games, I am looking forward to Homeworld 3 and Falling Frontier, plus have my eyes out for some other projects.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >X is dying
    Somebody said this so it must be true

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t play vista because the police took my laptop and will probably destroy it and send me to prison 🙁 I hate that I’m a pedo kill me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How are you posting and how did they get a warrant for your computer?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's a larping redditor newfag.
        One does not simply get v& and shitpost to tell the tale.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They only took the laptop

        Nice, get fucked.
        pedophilia is a sick mental disease just like gayry

        Yeah I hate it 🙁 I wish I was normal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      get rekt

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hot

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bit rude

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice, get fucked.
      pedophilia is a sick mental disease just like gayry

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just got here from Reddit huh bud?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Someone actually took the time to create this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Someone actually took the time to create this
            Extremely based

            >Someone actually took the time to create this
            God bless this artist.

            can we get a QRD

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Someone actually took the time to create this
          Extremely based

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Someone actually took the time to create this
          God bless this artist.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It already died several times. It's time for AAA devs and normies to leave, yup. What a shame.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    War simulators exist. PC games never dies due to them. And RTS games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is no single genre that is good on console toasters, so by default literally everything is made for PC.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        uh huh

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >muh 1 (one) exclusive console cancer argument
          Lmfao. Don't even start that shit again, you are never gonna win this argument.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So much for "everything being made for pc". Run along, monkey.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, every single genre is made for pc, you blind fucking moron.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Evidently not, shitskin.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >post enough b-but this 1 (one) game argument
                Holy fucking cope, lmfao. You will never be a woman, consolechud.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Paradox
                >the publisher that sells their games for full price and is INFAMOUS for nickel and diming their consumer base with DLC anyway
                >the publisher that was stupid enough to greenlight VTM:B2
                >Now smelling an opportunity for more money by shitting out console ports
                Please use an example of a respected company next time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >stellaris
                you just posted the perfect example of why these games dont work on console lmfao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you want to actually give the context for why Sega shelved Judgement for PC? You know, the one that has nothing to do with platform warring and would instantly shatter your entire argument?

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Consoles exist for 2 reasons:
    >so poors can afford it, and be milked with microtransactions because they're dumb
    >so autists can bing bing wahoo on the bus

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    after 7 years my pre built broke and i'm thinking of building a pc now should I even attempt i'm scared of fucking shit up and wasting money

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait for 4000 series GPUs
      They require new PSUs
      Also the new DDR memories aren't supported well yet

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They require new PSUs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ATX 3.0 PSU's are already here and you will mostly likely need an upgrade in either wattage or efficiency considering that 3000 series are already overvolted housefire GPU's that have to deal with the ongoing transient power spike issue that will only be guaranteed worse for 4000 series.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wait for 4000 series GPUs
        nah just wait for the 5000 series instead. Or better yet wait for the 6000 series
        the 6600GT and 6800GT are coming back baby

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >nah just wait for the 5000 series instead. Or better yet wait for the 6000 series
          >the DUDE JUST WAIT argument
          Bitch they are literally coming in September. Don't pull the "JuSt WaIT" shit like it matters.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just wait fags will always be a joke. Unless it's literally 1 week away i will never stop making fun of you waitfags. Fucking kys lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair, the cards most people actually want are probably coming out early next year. Let's say you can get a 3060Ti now, or something twice as fast for the same amount of money in six months: for me this is worth the wait, but maybe not for him.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >twitter meme
            have a nice day

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >getting upset about calling something a twitter meme when you wanted to bust out the JUST WAIT rhetoric when we are literally about to get flagship GPU's in months. There's a window where you can get the bast value for money and the 3000 series is not that at the moment. We have shills throwing out disinformation about wattage draw, we have ongoing transient power spike issues, AM4 is coming with higher TDP cpus. It makes sense to see these new GPU's before spending significant money on platform upgrades.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have been saying for 20 years that PC gaming will outlast all consoles, and I know I'm right. It will never die, consoles have continued to evolve into literal PC clones with massive restrictions. The lifeblood of consoles was paid exclusives, they are losing all of those now, you are insane if you think PC gaming will die, it's only been growing.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC gaming died 14 years ago, it was replaced with shittier console gaming with no physical market, no exclusives, releases that take years and a pathetic platform constantly in a state of limbo and being on the verge of falling apart. If you fell for the PC gaming meme, reddit tricked you.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    pc gaming have been dying since 1995

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    technically both PC and console gaming are dying because of entropy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >entertainment is dying
      damn....

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not though, if you find the right niche you can find good shit. my favorite comic artist just made likely around $500,000.00 in the last 24 hours. Completely blacklisted by Marvel and DC. You don't even need big guys anymore to make money. You just find people to give you money for things that you want. I love this fucking era.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC gaming has been "dying" for the past 20 years according to consolefags

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    about 3 fiddy

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been finding a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation devs on youtube lately. Pure bread nerds with an alpha gene. I don't think the scene is dying. Very strong. You just have to know the right niche. Within that niche of ultra dev nerds you find more stuff to play. At this point it has become a pattern so I know what to look for.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC players don’t breed so they’re getting ethnically replaced by console users.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Look up Japans #1 mobile game
    >Its a gacha
    >Uma Musume pretty derby
    >Anime girls as horses, with actual real life horse names
    Yea why do they never mention that in those statistics I wonder? Why do they never follow that example and make a western gacha then?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >make a western gacha then
      They are called...
      I don't know what they are called...
      but its all those base building games like Clash of Clans and such

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea but those are not nearly as popular as gacha is in japan.

        >mobile games only have gacha
        Ok retard.

        That is just the US. All the statistics posted talk about the global market. If you take out Asia, you'd take out a huge chunk of the mobile game market. I mean western studios tried to imitate it. With Diablo Immortal for example and that flopped hard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          USA is the second largest market in the world.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And how popular is mobile gaming in the US? How much money does it make in comparison with other platforms?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know and it's not important. What important is that mobile market in USA is big and reeing about gacha games is just coping.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But then look at that

                Console gaming too, this is what happens when instead of games you make a 'cinema experience' without optimization.

                statistics and look at yours. That means China alone makes up 35%, South Korea 5%, japan 11% and rest of the world probably includes south east asia and so on. So we can assume they make up roughly 60-70% of the mobile gaming market. Meaning if you take away the Asian market, the mobile game market is very small in comparison with PC or console gaming in the west. Or its equal at the very least. Meaning you'd have to take out a generous chunk out of the mobile games part of say this statistics

                Console gaming too, this is what happens when instead of games you make a 'cinema experience' without optimization.

                if you only look at western markets.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >western gacha

      They are called freemium games and South Park made an episode about how these kind of apps exploit potential gambling addicts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats what raid shadow legends is
      and look how that turned out
      I guess if you consider israel "western"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Raid shadow legends is a meme and not a game. Particularly because every youtuber on this planet made advertisement for it.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC is the biggest market for gaming yet has been said to be dying since the inception of consoles
    its the same as retards saying every game is dying because they are dissatisfied with it.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The article only mentioned esports losing its momentum and PC gaming losing its market share because mobile is more profitable. At the end it states that PC gaming is, in fact, not dying and never will.
    It's ragebait.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Be honest, how much longer does OP have?

    Hint: not a lot

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC gaming is bigger than it's ever been.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only competition is Nintendo and PC emulates that for free

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's just going back to normal

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who are you kidding?

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Price. It's always been expensive but now it's just getting worse.
    2. Other gaming options. Not only are consoles getting close to PC in terms of what they can handle but phones/tablets are getting there as well.
    3. Space. Having a proper set up requires enough room for the desk, the computer tower, the monitor/s, and M/KB/speakers
    3a. not portable/mobile.
    4. The most popular games on PC in recent years have been indie shit that can be played on ANYTHING modern. You don't need a PC to play Minecraft.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good work, you just regurgitated the same 4 talking points that were made every year this conversation has come up for the last 20 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You don't need a PC to play Minecraft.
      The only game that can make my 3090 strain itself is Minecraft

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1. Price. It's always been expensive but now it's just getting worse.
      It's not. Prices were inflated because of freight increases which Nvidia passed onto consumers. Every other component is normal and high performance parts can be had for not much money.
      >2. Other gaming options. Not only are consoles getting close to PC in terms of what they can handle but phones/tablets are getting there as well.
      Consoles are essentially just locked down pc's with lower specs and zero freedom. You can't do anything on them but consume content and pay for services. Fine if that's what you want, but that also means that they are both interchangable boxes with no redeeming features, and if exclusives aren't even a thing anymore, what's the point?
      >3. Space. Having a proper set up requires enough room for the desk, the computer tower, the monitor/s, and M/KB/speakers
      What is PC next to 55" oled with hdmi cable and any wireless controller?
      >3a. not portable/mobile.
      Always limited by tdp. same with phones. Unless you're a retard and are paying out the ass for a 2000 dollar phone just to play gatcha anyway. Other than that, Deck is a full x86 pc in portable/dockable form.
      >4. The most popular games on PC in recent years have been indie shit that can be played on ANYTHING modern. You don't need a PC to play Minecraft.
      That's just false. Also
      >using minecraft as an excuse
      Bro it's not 2012. Nobody plays the gimped versions of minecraft anyway.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every current consumer version of Windows has its end of life scheduled for next year. This is not an accident. Windows 12 launches soon as a much more locked down cloud OS and it won't have the legacy compatibility layer that's still been included in the last few releases.

    Microsoft is betting they can close the trap now faster than Valve can get widespread adoption of the Proton ecosystem by developers.
    This is the end game for them, and why they've been buying up all the developers they can, so they can force their cloud streaming service.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    poggers guys 😀

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want the gameboy and ds handheld era back.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every game will be optimized for steam deck and it will make gaming stagnate for a decade

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i don't know about PC gaming dying but i wish western games would die off

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why PC Gaming is Dying
    No console worshipping
    No morons
    No Gays
    No Trannies
    No purchasable mods

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The clock is ticking

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    With how big mobile is I sometimes wonder if the Ouya was secretly a good idea marketed horribly. Without a screen and a battery taking up most of the cost of the device, you could slap some mid to higher end phone hardware in a box and market it towards poorfags who want to play phone games on a big screen or with more performance than a cheapo phone can allow.

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