>being a game developer is so fun

>being a game developer is so fun

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Said no one over the age of 14, ever.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. Everyone say they want to be a game developer. But everyone remarks it is hard work!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. I realized game dev is pain even during my RPG Maker days.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. EA_Spouse helped me snap out of that.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Who?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      These guys did.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah in the 90s.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because they were young and single.
        80+hr/week is easy if you're young and single.
        Ganker will cry foul of this out of self resentment and regret but it's true.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          i did 84 hours a week when i was young and living with my girlfriend. But with the 2+ hour a day commute i basically worked and slept and needed her for everything else

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it's hard to get kids' respect
    you can get a kid's respect simply by lifting some stuff they can't lift

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That or showing them something they don't know about their interests or just listening to them and engaging in conversation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What I thought I was just supposed to get respect for being older and scoffing at everything they like, and belittling them at every turn.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        or hitting them when those ignorant little shits backtalk to you about shit they have no idea about

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Or showing them a video of you fricking the hot girl in class.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which class, yours or theirs?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            theirs, obviously. we didn't have cameras back in my day.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They don't find their 60 year old teacher hot

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That or showing them something they don't know about their interests or just listening to them and engaging in conversation.

      or hitting them when those ignorant little shits backtalk to you about shit they have no idea about

      Or showing them a video of you fricking the hot girl in class.

      The fact that no one even uttered "You can buy things without needing to ask for money" just shows how broke everyone in this shithole is.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        kids dont ask for allowance anymore, grandpa. they just use daddy's credit card at their own leisure

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Bold of you to assume these kids have fathers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Don't mind me, just pirating these kids respect

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Big ask for modern gaymers

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think the only game developers having fun are the indie devs who have a stake in the company and have real creative input. Working on a game for some soulless AAA dev and ultimately having no sense of shared ownership over the game you helped make must suck. Those type of devs are just functionaries, not creatives.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, see how the guy's examples of what you are going to tell the kids is something technical and not simply "I made the game you love", as would be the case with, I don't know, Minecraft, or basically any indie game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yea but bugmen refuse to work for equity so they only live to enhance the profits of large corporations and the cognitive dissonance is lost on them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's just the modern zeitgeist in a nutshell. People do things they don't care about and have no stake in all day long, in order for someone to throw money their way so they can afford food and rent to keep persisting doing things they don't care about and have no stake in.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you're not developing games if you're working for EA, rockstar, ubisoft, etc. those are places for slaves with no vision.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Genuinely enjoy (mini) game dev
    >It's a ballache to do because all the dev tools are windows only
    >The person maintaining the game you're building on is actively hostile to you if you aren't designing on and for windows primarily

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >michael wojack
    this place has fried my brain

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I still can't comprehend that Greg Coomer's name is ACTUALLY GREG COOMER

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Chop chop devvy!

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe just stop working for shitty american companies? What did you expect really? Not like you have workers rights in muttistan. And obviously big ass companies like EA aren't gonna give a shit about you without being forced to.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Ubisoft
      >Rockstar
      >American

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine not developing games on the AAA field and make a passion project that doesn't suck.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I assumed that the moment you hate vidya completely, you're now ready to work in a AAA game company

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Most people are destined to be slaves. It has been the case since the earliest civilisations so why are they protesting now? They should be grateful that they have a choice to quit at least

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can't he just work as a senior engineer at some company that runs itself like Linkedin or Twitter? That way he could work 20 hours a week from home and play all the vidya he wants for the small salary of 170k a year

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      After communism is realized we can all be part-time game developers and still have enough time for poetry jams on thursdays.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If he could he probably would.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      is that sneed?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Live in America
    >Boss tells you to work outside contracted hours
    >you actually do it
    Its sad that I believe this actually happens in America.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The US has the concept of "at will" employment, which is a nice way if saying your boss can fire you for any reason.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is actually based, fricking needing to hold on to dead weight just because they "need a job"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It would be based if it just meant buttholes get fired.

          In practice it means most US jobs have ridiculous unpaid overtime.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >And for no reason at all, America became flooded with hobos

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            By design. They get arrested eventually and forced to work as free labor.
            Our prison system is massive in order to reap max benefits from unpaid labor.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Our prison system is massive in order to reap max benefits from unpaid labor.
              For the ultra wealthy. For everyone else it means you have to compete against literal slaves in the labor market.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            don't see any in my neighborhood

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Works on my machine 🙂

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i don't think at will employment contracts have much bearing on unemployment rates honestly.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >This is actually based, fricking needing to hold on to dead weight just because they "need a job"
          In my experience the good people get fired or quit due to being exploited and the dead weight mostly sits in middle management. I don't think the system is working as intended.
          Don't let them fool you, Amerifriend.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >This is actually based, fricking needing to hold on to dead weight just because they "need a job"
          Usually it's more a matter of whether or not you kissed the right person's ass. The boss's friends can always do nothing and foist their duties on you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        that actually a good thing
        the problem is shitty workers are either too cucked or to moronic to give up a bad job

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the problem is shitty workers are either too cucked or to moronic to give up a bad job
          this
          they talk big about having work ethic then b***h because of "unfair" conditions when literally nothing is stopping them from doing their own thing or finding better work

          but no, better unionize and collectively make demands on someone ELSE with legal and political pressure because you're a lazy piece of shit, while dragging other people in who want nothing to do with it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Post nose

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      if you don't work those extra hours, you're closer to losing your job

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        More cucktalk, sounds familiar
        >If I don't tip the waiter they'll stick their dick in my food

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Real facts are "cuck talk."
          Try it. They absolutely fire people for not taking overtime because they know they can't afford the legal fees to prosecute an unfair dismissal.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Real talk is cuck talk
            if the reality is that you're being cucked this hard then yeah, the two are synonymous

            >Try it
            I know misery loves company but I'm not moving to burgerstan just so I can experience your fricked up working culture firsthand

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry Americans are pretty complacent about it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The power dynamic over here has shifted a lot the last few years. Now I "work" 40+ hours a week but in reality I'm at home playing vidya, jerking off, or napping while on the clock.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus I thought Japanese hours were already infamously bad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Americans are the most propagandized and exploited people on earth
          And they love every second of it. They're like livestock, they're denied even the most basic necessities and standards of living and then shit themselves with indignation when you point out that it doesn't have to be that way. Literal human cattle, the enjoy the abuse and ask for more.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The problem with Japanese work culture is the out-of-hours expectations. After the work day is 'officially' finished you're expected to spend almost the entire evening ''''socialising'''' with your bosses and colleagues, which basically involves wasting money at seedy bars and going through the stressful process of pretending to have fun while trying to avoid giving a bad impression to your bosses.

          All while your family is at home without you so your son is addicted to anime and simping, your wife is having an affair, and your daughter is becoming a JAVprostitute or '''''hostess'''''.
          And that's not even the worst that can happen with them.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What’s the worse that can happen with them?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Well that's pretty gay too

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's from an "actual" hours worked survey iirc. The reality is those corporate lifestyles are not the norm in japan. It's borderline American propaganda to make amerigolems feel better about their slave-like lifestyle. It's also like how Japan is always painted as some sort of mysterious suicide hellhole by TV and ecelebs (muh suicide forest), when it actually has a slightly lower suicide rate than the US. This started in the 80s to make japan seem gross and exotic, but now it's just a way to make americans think their lifestyle is normal, or good even.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >The reality is those corporate lifestyles are not the norm in japan
              the reality is Japan takes more holidays and still has longer office hours
              literally all of you are being fooled by total hours worked per year, not the actual job climate
              you have corporate slaves in Japan and overpaid moron boomer contractors in the US who "work" 80 hours a week privately when most of that is sitting on their ass doing nothing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >US who "work" 80 hours a week privately when most of that is sitting on their ass doing nothing
                This most jobs across the planet. Unless you think Mexicans are working hard or something. The japs even believe taking naps at work is a positive thing for the company, tells you a lot about their work environment. If an american boomer manager sees that he's going to start yelling.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >for the company
                which company?
                you're acting like every company there is google-tier tech shit where everyone is sitting in beanbag chairs doing frick all

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >MFW Mexico
                Life is suffering, and shit jobs everywhere here

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If an american boomer manager sees that he's going to start yelling.
                Just change your gender. Boom, now he can't raise his voice at you.
                Trannies - the perfect solution so that CEO's don't have to worry about ANYONE at the company, including managers, getting ideas.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The japs even believe taking naps at work is a positive thing for the company
                It objectively is. Well rested workers perform better and make fewer mistakes.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's weird how these people never bring up South Korea's suicide rate which is actually really high despite being a developed country.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's because

                That's from an "actual" hours worked survey iirc. The reality is those corporate lifestyles are not the norm in japan. It's borderline American propaganda to make amerigolems feel better about their slave-like lifestyle. It's also like how Japan is always painted as some sort of mysterious suicide hellhole by TV and ecelebs (muh suicide forest), when it actually has a slightly lower suicide rate than the US. This started in the 80s to make japan seem gross and exotic, but now it's just a way to make americans think their lifestyle is normal, or good even.

                >This started in the 80s to make japan seem gross and exotic
                In the 80s the US instituions started hating Japan. They were taking over cars, heavy industries, boat making, scientific research, consumer electronics, and more. And they were well on their way to becoming the king of semiconductors, with Nikon and Canon developing lithography machines, a monopoly they would hold through the 90s. The US forced them to sign the Plaza Accord to inflate the yen against the USD, to slow down japanese exports, and even restricted or embargoed specific exports like semiconductors and rice. There were also cases of targeted actions against specific japanese companies.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >and 499 more hours per year than French workers.
        Oh don't worry, our medias love to remind us about how much more hardworking the rest of the world is and why we should do the same.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          oy gevalt you need to be more productive for mr. goldberg. he's got superyacht payments to make you know.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I work 10-12 hour days, but only 4 days a week Mon-Thurs so yeah, i dont mind. Could be worse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      As much shit as Americans give Japan's work culture, ours is actually somehow even worse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking americans and fricking californians

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      american corpos solve this problem by having fire-at-will employment and not having "contracted hours" to begin with. if you don't do what they tell you to do, they'll replace you with a pajeet H-1B slave laborer.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who is glamorising game dev? Seriously, who? It’s all crunch and layoffs at the big studios and endless work for no reward on the indie scene.
    I think the only people with a glamorous view on game dev are literally 12yo boys who think making games and playing games are the same.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Going back 15 years it was glamorized. Dude working on videogames lnao, wow. Same as videogame journalism it was a dream job for a lot of ignorant vidya fans. Those days are long gone , the fact that vidya is a shit industry is becoming more well known and only the type of people who would wanna be game journos now just become ytbers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Working on Vidya isn't any worse now than before.
        Working for major companies is

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you are a telented programmer, you would have a much better life working for some tax software than working making the next COD.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Working on Tax software
            >Implying
            Buddy if you thought corporate gaymen software development is bad you have nary a clue.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Anon i work in software, working for big companies is super chill and you get paid well. Just dont be a dumbass and climb the ladder. For example banks, healthcare are known as paying very well and being great places to work.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You mean do not climb the ladder?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah dont get into management, also dont go to Google/Facebook/Netflix/etx, famous tech companies, those will work you harder, frick that. Go to a nice mid to big company, a that isn't a tech company, apply for a 100% remote position and start your comfy time.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Network security overlaps with this well.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Security sounds like huge responsibily. If you frick up once and some huge shit happens youre fricked

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's not how it works.
                Cybersecurity works under the assumption that failures and breaches are inevitable and your job is to lower occurrences and mitigate costs/losses associated. You end up mostly reviewing info instead of actively working 2/3 of the time and only get called in if you're getting DDOS'd (which is rare for most companies).

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And when that inevitable breach does happen the CEO fires you personally in an attempt to appease the shareholders to keep his own job.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, that's when they cover it up unless it's a massive incident that gets on the news, in which case you failed to mitigate and either get demoted or shuffled to appease investors before getting promoted again in five months.

                Companies don't fire their security team every time service goes down, data integrity is compromised or some data leaks, moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This
                >building burns down
                >fire the entire fire department

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And when that inevitable breach does happen the CEO fires you personally in an attempt to appease the shareholders to keep his own job.

                This.
                Data breaches are serious, but only in the sense you have to report them. They only really become punishable if repeated or really big/vip breaches

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Enterprises experience 130 security breaches per year, per organization, on average.
                You don't lose your job unless something really gets fricked.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just don't be the boss of a team for a big huge corporate office of a major company.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Unless you're the boss it's basically middle management.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Management is no work at all.
                Its a lot of pretending to care, and attending meetings. But you essentially don't have to do anything but remember who to agree with, and to tell the people actually doing work what you promised they would get done.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Google is well known for having excellent WLB, I know people who work there

                the only FAANG company that is notorious for long hours is Amazon

              • 2 years ago
                amazonshill

                >Google/Facebook/Netflix
                Ree why isn't Amazon here, but fricking netflix?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Most people know about Amazon's prison center treatment.

              • 2 years ago
                amazonshill

                No you don't understand, if you don't mention Amazon as much as you can we lose profits
                Do you really want shill netflix for free?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >videogame journalism

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's. Also thankfully the click bait style thumbnails and titles easily labels which you tubers are just game journo video edition

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The craziest thing is this studios make devs work 100+ hours and the directors/management still cannot make a good game. Im sure there are a lot of talented programmers at AAA studios but they get treated like shit for not a lot of results

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Working 100+ hour work weeks because management is forcing an ultra tight deadline, that is completely nightmareish.

      So having dedication and perseverance is nightmareish? This is why everything that comes out is garbage now. These so called "developers" grew up in a rounded corner fischer-price bubble where no one is allowed to hurt their feelings. Someone with actual motivation and drive would sleep under their desk if it got the job done, and someone with dignity wouldn't complain about it and would be stronger for it.

      >not owning your own business

      [...]
      I never claimed any company ever put out anything good. I just implied that smaller, more dedicated teams working on the exact same project will always produce a better product than the hopefuls who are afraid to skin their knuckles when they hit the grindstone. This goes for almost any industry, not just games.

      >The craziest thing is this studios make devs work 100+ hours and the directors/management still cannot make a good game. I'm sure there are a lot of talented programmers at AAA studios but they get treated like shit for not a lot of results

      That's because forcing people to work longer/harder doesn't actually produce better results. You can't reliably force good design. It can happen, but it's pure luck. This is the trap Bioware fell into with shit like Anthem, they thought if they just kept crunching they'd eventually produce a diamond from all the pressure. But the reality was the Bioware Magic was always luck, and the passion and drive of a few workhorses who left the company years ago when they got whipped too much.

      This is true for basically any kind of work above basic menial level. You can't squeeze extra brain juice out of people - things like creativity and drive are derived from neuro-signallers people have limited quantities of. Even things like motivation work like this, which is why people with neuro-disorders like depression or anxiety find it difficult to do basic things - their brain juices are out of whack. You can't get blood from a stone, you can't FORCE a person to think nimbly when you've burned them out.

      Drive a horse too long it just drops fricking dead. Things like this are the result of incompetent management filled with nepotism fricks, lack of planning, and letting non coder fricks aka the investors set deadlines. You don't build a fricking bridge by commitee.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >still cannot make a good game
      The main reason is being overworked, moron. They get their brains fried, and they are gullible young graduates to begin with, as people quit after the burn, ofc AAA games are shit.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like it's capitalism that is the problem

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's right comrade, Communists would never overwork you 🙂

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >B-but Communism!
        Every time. Shit ideology if the only defense is deflection

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The entire marxist rhetorical device of the "Capitalist System" is a deflectionary tactic to defer the issues of corporate and state corruption to a farcical misrepresentation of free market economics.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Reality doesn't matter, just whether the idealized system works.
            Sounds like commie talk. "Real capitalism has never been tried!"

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Reality does matter, which is why the issue of state and corporate corruption is why communism literally always fails.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                *communism and capitalism

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                capitalism isn't real, so it kinda fails by default 🙂

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it is really fun tho
    t. indie game developer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus, what a bad photoshop.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's just one of those dumb snapchat filters, her milkers are still nice

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Having control over your own game and deadlines is fun. Being a no name wageslave to make some soulless suit's game for a corporation who only cares about the financial return is not.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      post game(s) or stfu

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do people really believe game developers are out there working 100+ hours a week? You know they're completely unchallenged because they think this is reasonable. "Yeah i work 20 hours a day 5 days a week" and everyone is just like "wow crunch is terrible" and not "this is a load of shit"

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Game developing is a living hell!
    >IF I worked I would hate it
    >I never did, never have worked as a game dev, but I would hate working for big companies.

    Why are people like this? Do they really think everything about big companies is "exploitative"? That everyone at Blizzard and Rockstar work 100 hours a week, and are constantly missing their child's life?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's that way for all jobs if you're american. That's why there's a worker shortage right now. People got a taste if that being outside of the cage and don't want to go back in. Tell your employers NO Often.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >get an intermittent leave of absence through your doctor and the FMLA
    >leave or call in when you need to but don’t overdo it and make it obvious
    >protected by federal law

    Not my problem these crybabies don’t know how to fight back besides whining on twitter.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >being a game dev for AAA developer
    There's your problem. The correct way to do it is

    >get some dumb job as a truck driver or something anyone can do
    >get home
    >work on your indie game
    >make sure it is actually a good game that is FUN
    >eventually release indie game
    >?????
    >profit

    >use profit to start your own small game studio
    >keep the company private and only 6 or 7 devs including you
    >make even better sequels to your last game
    >make new IP
    >?????
    >even more profit, you keep the lions share as it's your creation

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >get dumb job
      >work all day
      >get home
      >be too tired from work to do anything
      >...
      Oh no

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Truth

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >wwwaaaahhhh I'm sooooo tired
        your fault lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure if serious or baiting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just achieve success on the levels of 0.01% of indie devs
      >it's easy

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if youre a good game dev it is. there isnt a single good indie game that isnt hugely successful. if youre not a good game dev maybe you should get a different job. not everyone can be everything

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >>if youre a good game dev it is. there isnt a single good indie game that isnt hugely successful
          lmao nodev spotted

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            or perhaps your game just isnt as good as you think

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Witch's Heart

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >not everyone can be everything
          that's not what my ethnic intersectionality studies professor told me, you ableist patriarchal bigot.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cris i know its you.
      Frick off and keep yourself contained.

      Not sure if serious or baiting.

      >get dumb job
      >work all day
      >get home
      >be too tired from work to do anything
      >...
      Oh no

      hes not baiting. Hes terminally moronic since birth. Pic rel.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How do you know it's the same dude in all those threads?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          writing style and my filters.
          Also him shitting up /3/, /ic/ /vg/agdg/ and EVERY single fricking creative board/thread i've been in 6 fricking years in this website.
          He uses the same images once in a blue moon.
          At his worse he had at least 50% of /3/ catalog because he spammed it with his shit takes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks fren

        >being a game dev for AAA developer
        There's your problem. The correct way to do it is

        >get some dumb job as a truck driver or something anyone can do
        >get home
        >work on your indie game
        >make sure it is actually a good game that is FUN
        >eventually release indie game
        >?????
        >profit

        >use profit to start your own small game studio
        >keep the company private and only 6 or 7 devs including you
        >make even better sequels to your last game
        >make new IP
        >?????
        >even more profit, you keep the lions share as it's your creation

        For (you)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        frick off cris

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't it about time to update the text to say 9 years?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cris seems like a cool dude

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >get dumb job
      >work all day
      >get home
      >be too tired from work to do anything
      >...
      Oh no

      cris i know its you.
      Frick off and keep yourself contained.
      [...]
      [...]
      hes not baiting. Hes terminally moronic since birth. Pic rel.

      Truth

      nta but what if it's a "security" job where you have to stay in a room full of cameras or shit like that? I guess there's a way to sneak a laptop and dev from there?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just sacrifice huge chunks of your finite lifespan to make rich people richer and somehow your dreams will spontaneously manifest out of nothing
      >I'm not broke, I'm just a temporarily embarrassed billionaire!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You know truck drivers aren't home very often you moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >release indie game
      >profit
      hahaha no.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >100+ hour work weeks
    yeah, no

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No one glamorizes game dev. If you are in software its pretty well known that game dev is a shitty industry. work more and get paid less

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it illegal to work more than 80 hours a week in the US?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not if you're paid salary. :^)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What are you gonna do? Sue your employer?

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah you wouldn't be getting paid for it if it was easy. What's the problem here?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Working 100+ hour work weeks because management is forcing an ultra tight deadline, that is completely nightmareish.

    So having dedication and perseverance is nightmareish? This is why everything that comes out is garbage now. These so called "developers" grew up in a rounded corner fischer-price bubble where no one is allowed to hurt their feelings. Someone with actual motivation and drive would sleep under their desk if it got the job done, and someone with dignity wouldn't complain about it and would be stronger for it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly they probably had unrealistic expectations of being a game dev like it wasn't going to be tough work on par with a lot of other professions and they could be on vacation most of the time just playing games at work

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is just naive
      You'll realize you are just a number working your hardest to miss out on life to fill your boss' pockets while he is chilling at his pool not knowing who you are

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >not owning your own business

        Yeah, you sound like a moron.

        >garbage now
        You are acting like this companies were putting out anazing games. Take Rockstars for example, even GTA3 and VC were shit.

        I never claimed any company ever put out anything good. I just implied that smaller, more dedicated teams working on the exact same project will always produce a better product than the hopefuls who are afraid to skin their knuckles when they hit the grindstone. This goes for almost any industry, not just games.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, you sound like a moron.

      >garbage now
      You are acting like this companies were putting out anazing games. Take Rockstars for example, even GTA3 and VC were shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Someone with actual motivation and drive would sleep under their desk if it got the job done, and someone with dignity wouldn't complain about it and would be stronger for it.
      Ask me how I can tell you've never worked a job in your life. Pretty much everyone expects to work overtime when up against a deadline. What people don't expect is having to do that shit all the time. Constantly working people ridiculous hours doesn't make for great games, it's just going to lead to all of your more senior and talented staff jumping ship when they wake up one day and suddenly realize that their son that was born at the start of their last project is going into school now and maybe they don't want to experience all of these years as a blur of work and sleep that they don't even get paid overtime for. We've seen the pattern time and time again. A studio's management goes full moron and has people crunching for moronic hours, experienced people who lead various departments bail, game turns out to be complete shit because anyone who had an idea what they were doing left.

      Milking your staff for all the unpaid overtime they can give you isn't some kind of virtue of hard work or dedication, it's them exploiting the fact that the labor market is filled with starry eyed morons fresh out of college that they can underpay and overwork for a few years before they frick off and find a company with more sane working conditions and better pay.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cuck

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >dedicating yourself to a company you have no complete or partial ownership of
      LMAO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The people who would “sleep under their desk if it got the job done” were people who were running their own company like the Doom guys.
      There’s no reason to bust your ass like that if you aren’t your own boss.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      okay, slave, whatever you say.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're a moron. Go generate some value for me moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao.
      Dedication and perseverance are stupid pursuits if you're not getting paid more for them. If you have no stake in the company or the success of the product past "you may get fired if it fails", why would you do more than average work?

      You sound like a chum who could get told "we are firing Joe and you're now doing twice the work for the same pay" and would comply.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Workers are just cucked for putting up with it when they don't have to. But truly they're getting something out of the deal, more money and a very nice line to put on a resume.
    Is it worth missing seeing your kids growing up? Obviously not but people are dumb and greedy

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    uh, don't do it then?

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I programmed the worst vehicles in a GTA game to date
    good job moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Objectively wrong

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's AA and AAA game development.
    Indie developer is incredibly fun, your only worry is time and money, but no third parties who can frick the actual game up with stupid decisions.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      anon your game has too much breasts and doesnt empower women censor or change it or you wont release your game on any platform besides a mega server or torrent

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >you wont release your game on any platform besides a mega server or torrent
        Sounds like a good deal

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >taking game dev at uni
    How fricked am I?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Make sure you're not under contract to forfeit shit you're developing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Roll it into web dev or business dev, spin it as interface and interactivity study on your resume

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just make sure you learn to code and you'll be fine as a junior dev.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Very, like a lot. Seriously change to compsci and make indie games in your spare time. Don't go into the vidya industry.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest meme degree ever. Entering one of the most saturated job markets, with a degree employers will look at and find juvenile, even the ones hiring for game dev. Tick off another box if you're doing it at some trash for-profit university like Full Sail that preys on directionless NEET morons who think they can turn their one and only hedonistic escapism hobby into a career without doing any real work.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Genuinely a meme degree that will likely frick you in the ass for having.
      Change over to an actual CS or programming degree. Then you can work on games OR any other related field. When you're in your 30s/40s, you don't know where your life will be by then, its better to have a degree that will let you be flexible with your career chooses in the future.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're a gigantic fricking moron regardless of what degree you want if your end goal is to get a job in game dev. They are worked the hardest and paid the least because there's too many soidevs that will take your job when you get burnt out and quit. You're better off just getting an actual programming job that lets you WFH with a much smaller workload so you have more time and energy to work on your own game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Switch to CS of Software Engineering

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      going to college is even dumber than working as a game dev

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kek

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >make a 'niche' game
      >don't market it
      >be mad about the fact that it doesn't sell

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also
        >Never markets the game before release
        >Surprised no one knows about it
        Happens so many times to indie devs. If you don't tell anyone about your game how the frick will anyone even know it was released? Give some free copies out to communities, make videos and post them on various sites, make a twiter hyping it, fricking anything. You can do your own marketing for FREE and yet so many never do a single thing.

        To he fair to him the game wouldn't have seen many sales even with marketing. Videogames are stupid competitive and 98% of the market is on Steam. Some people amke it by literally being lucky the algorithm place them on a visible place.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Just a bit of marketing on Reddit, Twitter or Ganker here and there is enough to get your game over at least a 100 sold copies (which like 75% of indie games on Steam don't reach).

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >100 sold copies
            And this is an achievement?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No, but having 100 unique players is

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              When 75% of indie games on Steam do not even reach 100 sold copies? Yes

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              read do things that don't scale

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You're not wrong, but its more the fact that you could get /something/ which is better then nothing. Even post release you need to continue marketing your game, steam it, talk more about it, if you add something in a patch make a big deal about it. Marketing is just as core to making a commercial game as is programming, art, or music, since at the end of the day this is a business you're attempting to create, not just a freebie on itch.io or whatever.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          True, but people that are in the game's niche would've been exposed to his game, and he wouldn't have an excuse if he had no sales since it would be his own fault.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          His game wouldnt have made any sales because its literally a fricking LIMBO ripoff and nothing else

          It also doesnt help he named it "Orphan" which is already the name of that movie where the little girl tries to frick her step dad, it never had a chance

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            lol, I thought that was limbo when you posted the video till I read the title

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Also
      >Never markets the game before release
      >Surprised no one knows about it
      Happens so many times to indie devs. If you don't tell anyone about your game how the frick will anyone even know it was released? Give some free copies out to communities, make videos and post them on various sites, make a twiter hyping it, fricking anything. You can do your own marketing for FREE and yet so many never do a single thing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        fricking tell them, it pisses me off to see that they're astounded to discover the reason why no one buy their game

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It kills me, sometimes you do see some really impressive or just flat out fun stuff released only to die in obscurity because they never marketed it. I forget which game it was a few years back, but there was some dev having an absolute meltdown over Steam not marketing the game for him, like how fricking stupid do you have to be?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >sometimes you do see some really impressive or just flat out fun stuff released only to die in obscurity because they never marketed it
            Yeah, sometimes I discover amazing games by browsing "upcoming games" in some genres that I enjoy. I guess they are spergs living in their own bubble

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >I discover amazing games by browsing "upcoming games"
              you're insane

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                how am I supposed to discover good stealth games if the rare few games are not marketed anywhere?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                if you can discover a stealth game it's a bad stealth game.
                you'd never discover a good stealth game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >if you can discover a stealth game it's a bad stealth game.
                Kind of true, but they are hidden to most people, maybe I'm just a really good guard? Or maybe it was its plan to make it so I discover it for mysterious reasons?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I find neat shmups all the time on Steam doing this. There are TONS of hidden gems in all sorts of genres if you're willing to look around.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          even consumers know most a games budget is dedicated to marketing are these people too stupid or too stubborn?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >makes shit game
      >expects someone to care
      >has autistic meltdown
      Based cringelord

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is Steam supposed to do? Dumb devs and journalists complained for years that Steam doesn't let everyone on their store, then they complained Greenlight doesn't work and now it's whining how they will let anyone on Steam. Wasn't this what you idiots wanted?

      >but cruddy asset flips are burying muh game abloobloo

      Market your fricking game, you idiot. It's really not that hard.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    being a game designer in a bigger studio is actually fun because you just come up with theoretical shit and throw all the work on other people who make it work in the game

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's a very romanticized view of the game designer position. In reality, you have a finished game in your mind and have to communicate it to everyone else as clear as possible. 70% of your time will be spent correcting frickups and misinterpretations of your vision.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >you have a finished game in your mind
        maybe the creative director and a few other leads have some sort of idea what the product will look like when it's finished, definitely not the designers.. they are just trying to come up with unrealistic half-assed ideas of game systems which are mostly scrapped

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Just like Peter Molyneux.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >being a game developer is so fun
    A hobbyist one pretty much. Waging for any company is never fun

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah, if you're a moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      No you don't, what the frick. Literally EVERY example I gave you could do for FREE in just a few hours even.
      Posting content of your game with relevant genre hashtags on twitter is free.
      Going to discords relevant to your style of game and pimping it along with giving out free copies is FREE.
      Make videos and do some streaming showing off your game and get people involved, give out a few free copies in your stream to viewers, THIS IS ALL FREE. You can have your game on steam and give out pre-release keys.
      This only scratches the surface, there is still tons of other things you can do to pimp out your shit without spending a dime and do so in only a matter of a few hours of work. Devs are willing to throw thousands of hours of work in to making the game, yet not 10 hours to make sure people even know it fricking exists. It bafflingly moronic

      I have a marketing degree, i done professional marketing (don't its boring, moved from that). Conversion rates are low, very low, even for expensive marketing campaigns, we are talking low single digits for huge ad campaigns. Posting your game on twitter is farting in the wind, a sea of noise. Marketing for an indie dev (amy indie thing really) is like a buying a lottery ticket. People here really don't know what they are talking about. Online marketing is even more fickle than regular marketing. Giving out keys does very little, because the idea of a free gane may have been uniwue 15 years ago but no longer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, you're coming from the perspective of large projects, we're on the topic of shit that could "turn a profit" on 1000 sales. There are dedicated communities to small indie games that will buy most anything you bring up to them, you focus on those people. The Shumps discord is an example, they will buy most anything posted in the "Shump-Promote" channel that is related to the genre.
        Its all relative anon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Posting your game on twitter is farting in the wind, a sea of noise.
        Have you tried to make a nsfw art with the title of a marketed game?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Marketing won't save your game if it is :
        >Ugly
        >Boring
        >Too hard to understand
        People fail to realise that if you're making a pixelshit game that looks like every pixelshit games that release everyday, posting shit on twitter won't do anything. You need to at least make it pretty or very fun for people to be interested. Also youtube and reddit are probably the best way for you to gain followers/wishlists. Sending your trailers to gaming channels that are specialized in it and posting some clips in indie games subreddit if you stand out enough will carry you.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Marketing won't save your game if it is :
          >Ugly
          >Boring
          >Too hard to understand
          Just add booba and it's in the bag.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It depends boobas on who, if your game is fugly, boobas won't save it, if it's boobas on a creature, then maybe since people are degenerate

            When they lose enough money.

            Sadly it won't happen

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >if your game is fugly, boobas won't save it
              WEGs are the perfect example of having booba while being fugly

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >WEGs
                what is that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Western Erotic Games, which while niche tend to do very well in the Patreon sphere. Probably helps that they don't get banned and censored left and right like Eastern works do.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Western Erotic Games.

                Someone post it

                Ah yes, I should've guessed. I never understood how they made that much money. Especially since now games with good looking women released. Yeah they have little to no story but I couldn't jack off to these goblins anymore

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Western Erotic Games.

                Someone post it

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No you don't, what the frick. Literally EVERY example I gave you could do for FREE in just a few hours even.
    Posting content of your game with relevant genre hashtags on twitter is free.
    Going to discords relevant to your style of game and pimping it along with giving out free copies is FREE.
    Make videos and do some streaming showing off your game and get people involved, give out a few free copies in your stream to viewers, THIS IS ALL FREE. You can have your game on steam and give out pre-release keys.
    This only scratches the surface, there is still tons of other things you can do to pimp out your shit without spending a dime and do so in only a matter of a few hours of work. Devs are willing to throw thousands of hours of work in to making the game, yet not 10 hours to make sure people even know it fricking exists. It bafflingly moronic

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather be a video game director than a developer wagie

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >hello you will be working 100 hours weekly in this job
    >sure!
    >WHAT THE FRICK I HAVE TO WORK 100 HOURS?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Implying interviewers or, God forbid, recruiters ever tell the truth
      Lmao

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If you want to do as much as you can then yeah you need the money for marketing, like keymailer at the very least.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No shit. GameDev is like animation, there was originally artistry and soul to it, but as profits rise and demand spikes it becomes more and more sweatshop like to acchieve lofty expectations. The most soulful and "good" games had a market and profit just a fraction of modern middle-of-the-road games. Look at something like Assassins creed:valhalla, the team size, 1st week sales numbers, budget, etc.. now compair that to Ocarana of Time, or MetalGearSolid2, or Halo2. Even this gap of only a few generations and you see massive differences. Yet those games are considered excellent and AC:valhalla a middling dud. Its not about how much money or people you throw at a game, its about having passion for what youre creating. Something that, arguably becomes far less acchievable/coheasive across a dev team the bigger the team gets.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Managers are what's destroying this industry.
    Western product managers have zero comprehension of how complex games have become and still treat them as regular software products.
    The real, actual talent are the engineers, artists (sometimes) and technical staff. Managers (and writers) offer no value to the development of a game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's every company, not just games.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically, they know jackshit about games. When will this plague end?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        When they lose enough money.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I digress folks, being a game dev ain't no can of peaches
    I hate the way these homosexuals talk so much

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >two years to code a game
      whats he writing it in, assembly?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        CUTE naive anon

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >voluntarily renounce trade unions and labor rights
    ?be surprised when the employer fricks you in the ass without soap
    Murican moment.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Euro gaming is dead though. Japan has worse working conditions and they make better games than america. Face it good art can't be made with lifestyle jobs.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to curry favor with a child is what "respect" looks like nowadays

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >working for a publicly traded company
    >when instead, you could be working for a privately owned company
    ??????????????????????????????????????????????

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being a professional programmer nowadays is a fricking nightmare. Back when the internet was new everyone was doing all kinds of fun shit, now everything is built around corporate bootlicking and greedy/moronic managers. I don't know a single legit good programmer working at an elite company who doesn't hate their job.

    Working a max of 2 hours a day and raking in cash is comforting though, at least I have time to work on side projects that actually bring me joy.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >AAA
    Opinion discarded, the fact you were stupid enough to work at these companies with their reputation and had taste shitty enough to say that Egay, Ubishit and wienersucker are highly anticipated proves that this guy doesn't realize there's an industry between mutt AAA dogshit.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He's wrong. The business guys and their investors aren't riding the devs to get them to meet deadlines. They're riding them after filling their ranks with incompetent diversity hires to deliberately make a bad product, but still rake in fast whale money and get EGS points at the same time.
    It's perfect for them, just perpetuate a marketing-centric corporate culture by preventing anything being made while getting literally free fealty dollars from Blackrock. Trannies are corporate fascism's godsend and I have no idea why the Nazis hated them so much, maybe Germans are just stupid.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    play vagante

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Game dev sucks, and there's a reason why only countries with absolute slavery-tier working conditions produce video games any more.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why cant the employees team together and go to their boss to demand better pay and less working hours. If they all worked together their boss cant do shit or else they would all quit/have to be fired and his comapany would fricking die

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Why cant the employees team together and go to their boss to demand better pay and less working hours. If they all worked together their boss cant do shit or else they would all quit/have to be fired and his comapany would fricking die
      UNION?
      UNION!?!?!
      HOW FRICKING DARE YOU UNIONS ARE SHIT COMMIE SCAMS
      REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why cant the employees team together and go to their boss to demand better pay and less working hours. If they all worked together their boss cant do shit or else they would all quit/have to be fired and his comapany would fricking die

        That's called a union and American workers, on top of having third world tier rights, have been indoctrinated into thinking unions are le bad.

        PS: america's anti-union bias aside, because game devs are a dime a dozen and they are easily replaced thanks to a glut of bright eyed idiots who got degree's in the aughts

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's called a union and American workers, on top of having third world tier rights, have been indoctrinated into thinking unions are le bad.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No moron, Unions are bad because as a formal organization they get corrupt as shit and most importantly. Don't support you where it actually matters, on a local level, which SUR FRICKING PRISE, outsourcing telling your boss to frick off to people that may or may not actually be involved in your specific location doesn't do shit for you, and the Union's ran off with your money to fund more cronyistic homosexualry.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Is that what shekelstein told you on his union busting campaign costing millions of dollars?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No that's what I told the homosexual asking me to blow $1000 a year to tell my boss to quit being a dickhead, when I just got everyone else to threaten to quit. (Which cost me nothing)

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Union workers on average make 12% more money
          >96% of unionized workers have company-sponsored health plans as opposed to 69% of unionized ones
          >90% of union workers have paid sick leave and vacation time vs 72% of non-unionized workers
          >B-BUT YOU SHOULDNT JOIN THEM BECAUSE THEY TAUGHT ME IN MCSCHOOL THAT THE MAFIA RAN THEM 40 YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE CORRUPT
          Holy kek even if that were true that really speaks volumes about being an American having a corrupt mobster union boss take better care of you than your actual boss.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            oh no no no no do american slaves really believe that it's bad?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            oh no no no no do american slaves really believe that it's bad?

            >Holy kek even if that were true that really speaks volumes about being an American having a corrupt mobster union boss take better care of you than your actual boss.
            that's how all mafia's start. Cosa Nostra's origins were in peasants operating for mutual benefit against oppressive and uncaring landowners. Same for the Yakuza. Scarface ran soup kitchens and gave liberally to the poor.

            The only country whose Org. crime I can think of that doesn't have this kind of grass roots origin is Russia, where their crime org's came out of the educated and military officers who lost out under the shift to communism.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              even when it was an unkept secret the unions were ran by mobsters, it was still better for workers. look at fricking john gotti in NYC where the general public knew he was a crime lord that ran the unions and they still idolized him.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Wasn't the Russan mafia the gulags?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Wasn't the Russan mafia the gulags?
                which were full of middle class political dissidents as much as the poor

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                True, true.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Now they run our government and we get nothing. Thanks.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Now they run our government and we get nothing. Thanks.
                That's the corporate shareholders, not union mobsters.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Wait, how is sick leave something a union has to negotiate? So do Americans just not have to be legally given any paid sick days then?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Wait, how is sick leave something a union has to negotiate? So do Americans just not have to be legally given any paid sick days then?

              Currently, there are no federal legal requirements for paid sick leave. For companies subject to the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA), the Act does require unpaid sick leave. FMLA provides for up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for certain medical situations for either the employee or a member of the employee's immediate family. In many instances paid leave may be substituted for unpaid FMLA leave.

              Employees are eligible to take FMLA leave if they have worked for their employer for at least 12 months, and have worked for at least 1,250 hours over the previous 12 months, and work at a location where at least 50 employees are employed by the employer within 75 miles.

              https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/sickleave#:~:text=Currently%2C%20there%20are%20no%20federal,does%20require%20unpaid%20sick%20leave.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >No federally mandated sick leave
                >Except in some circumstances with this FMLA thing where it's >unpaid
                How depressing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's so fricking moronic. What the frick do you think a sick person is going to do when they either aren't allowed to leave without penalty or have to miss out on a day's pay? They come to work sick and then get everybody else sick, and then all those people come to work sick until everyone in the entire fricking company gets sick. That kind of loss in productivity along with half the employees being gone cannot outweigh the money they would spend by just letting the frickers stay home.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, the idea is to fire you so they can cycle in cheaper employees and reneg on your benefits.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                this. Remember any promise a company makes is not worth the paper it's printed on. They'll find a way to reneg, just ask a generation of ford employee's

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              People really don't understand how few rights and amenities Americans have. We're not just naturally stupid. Part of this is born from deliberate design for max profit efficiency.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >So do Americans just not have to be legally given any paid sick days then?
              Of course not that would be communism and anyway we've got more important issues to focus on, like how much money we should print to bail out Elon and Bezos this year.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >anyway we've got more important issues to focus on, like what is worse: racism, sexism, anti-semitism, or transphobia
                Fixed.
                Note that homophobia isn't on the list because just about everyone is cool with gays except, ironically, trannies.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No sick days
              No vacation days
              Companies can withhold breaks and lunches without reason and without consequence
              Be thankful for the opportunity to make someone else rich, goy

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao, you never worked in your life, unions, syndicates, were always corrupt organizations, everywhere, they always get to conforatable and stop caring about workers or they get involved with political groups and activism, putting political interests against the workers interests.
            Thats not just in america, thats every country with it, but you homosexual is probrably some NEET that never worked.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >"But it eventually gets as bad as when they're not around!"
              You're right, we should continue to stay in poor conditions instead of working for short lived improvement.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You should always try to improve your condition, just be awere that unions may make things worse than finding other jobs.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What kind of shit argument is this supposed to be? Even if all that is true, marginal improvent is still better than none you homosexual

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I've never worked a union job, but my Dad has, and from what he told me, every time the union higher-ups would "negotiate" with the company, they would grandfather in the older employees (themselves) and cut a shittier deal for the new guys. Repeat 100 times over the years and you're basically left with nothing while the boomers retire comfortably at everyone else's expense.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >we're 12% less cucked than actual cucks!
            wow

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on the union. Being pro or anti union is a moronic, ignorant take. I've worked for companies that desperately needed union and didn't have one, I worked for companies that didn't have an union and would be in the shit if one was implemented. My worst job was in an unionized place and THANK GOD we had one. They were constantly drsghing the company to court because of malpractices and I took part in one of the cases and we ended up winning.

          It all depends on who runs the union and what corporation/career field you work in. Simply saying "union good" or "union bad" is a brainlet take.
          There is one fact to remember though. If your company isn't unionized and you get approached by unions trying to set a foot into the company, DO YOUR FRICKING RESEARCH. A lot of them are, indeed, shitty.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            In what cases an union wouldnt be good (assuming that the union actually does its jo b and benefits workers)?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Excluding literally everything negative about what unions do, how are unions bad?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >"The only negative I have is 'what of the eventual corruption when this is also a given for law and corporations to begun with."
                lol

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              When the union doesn't do its job and implements the bare minimum of work conditions in exchange for huge deductions on your paycheck.
              But it's a lot more complicated than that. That's a surface level explanation. It's different from union to union and comlanies to companies. Some companies have snitch policies where they encourage employees to snitch on unproductive ones, so, as I said, it's really different from company to company. It depends entirely on the work culture that's already there, but in general, a corrupt union cash in the percentage on everyone's paycheck and when comes the time to renegociate the employee's advantages, they will willingly cower out in exchange for company benefits or more money, so you end up stuck with the bare minimum benefits that the union will, most of the time, never defend.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              they're bad if you work 80 hours and suck the boss's dick (cuck)
              good if you do the bare minimum (based)
              all the union chads at my company get 2 months of paid leave a year mandatory.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Unions are good and corporations are bad the overwhelming majority of the time. There's no need to be pendantic because 99.9% isn't quite the same as 100%

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of joining a union which might maybe become corrupt in the future, I'll just continue being exploited by my bosses who have a financial incentive to spend a little on labor as possible and encourage turnover
          HURR DURR I'M FREE

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even if Unions are bad, support them anyway. They will always be better than your employer. If you have to choose between two heaping piles of shit, always pick the one that at the very least pretends to care about you.

          This is not an opinion, it is your obligation. Your employer would have you chained if it was legal. All of them. No exception.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >NOOOO you gotta give ur monny to the union
            No

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because the staff happens to "coincidentally" be diverse and is unable to form that kind of an alliance.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        OOHHH, so *thats* why companies keep doing diversification shit even though it objectively doesn't yield a profit
        >inb4 blackrock
        that doesn't work how you think it does and they just lost their ass on real estate (get ready for that recession btw)

        But this, this actually makes sense. If the employee's all hate one another, they can never co-operate.

        also i'm joking, the real reason is always incompetence, not planned malice

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >spoiler
          I believe it's a bit of both.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The goal of Blackrock and others like them is simply to subvert and destroy everything. They have infinite money, if they run out they can just ask central banks (which is also a subversive treasonous system) for more.

          Rich capitalists and their businesses go along with it for short term gains at the cost of everything around them, because they're parasites with no loyalties.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >get ready for that recession
          Not happening.
          Sure, everyone is going to have to sell themselves into indefinite indentured servitude, but the economy will never be allowed to fall into a true recession until they're finished building a line of Obelisks of Nod around Israel and feel safe to move there. What happens afterwards won't be called a recession in the same way we don't call the Holocaust just a little bit of trolling.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick are you talking about? We're already in a recession. Rich economists who have a stake in the situation are trying to convince you we're not. While cost of living has exploded, the "inflation" meter they use is so far removed from reality, whole countries have economically defaulted, while many more are themselves facing actual, by definition, recessions. In a world where international economics are everything. Powerhouses like Russia and China are failing. While secondaries like S. Korea, Japan, Canada, Brazil, Ukraine, Germany, etc are sliding. The only reason we're """technically""" aren't in one is because we're so caught up in definitions.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >because the second we say it the vultures will grasp at their money and we'll enter a free fall.
              Fixed

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They've already done that. You think the chairmen of the banks are suddenly going to end up poor and on the streets if we enter a recession tomorrow? Frick no. The amount of copium going on is absurd.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you realize how many rich morons still haven't pulled out.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If a rich banker fricked up bad enough that they lost everything, their government would simply print enough money to make up for it, with interest. You're right that they'll never be poor but it's not because they're smart.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Russia
              >powerhouse

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Russia controls so much oil and gas. GDP they may not be comparable to say, the US. But Russia is, and rapidly become "was", such an essential cornerstone piece to Europe that to act like they didn't have meaningful power is naive.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Rich economists who have a stake in the situation are trying to convince you we're not.
              And as long as the majority of the population believe them, we won't be. Even if everyone's homeless, eating worms, race riots burn the country while birth rates hit 0, "the economy is fine, focus on the real problems" will resound unilaterally in our streets until the day the last banker and the last warhead leaves the country - and suddenly, as if by magic, the US dollar will simply cease to exist.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >also i'm joking, the real reason is always incompetence, not planned malice
          This is an unwise thing to believe, especially when talking about the wealthy and powerful.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why don't they all team together and start their own company without the boss and they all get a stake in the equity? Oh right because workers are moronic and incompetent and if it wasn't for managers they would spend all day making literal shit. Literal shit, look what amazon had to do to make people produce something other than literal shit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They make literal shit anyway. The company puts over three quarters of any project to be the kind of people that can only make literal shit. The reason for this is simply because the company isn't in the business of not making literal shit. They're in the business of selling literal shit. If the company made something other than literal shit, it would put the sellers on the back foot, or even redundant. And we can't have that, that would defeat the ENTIRE POINT.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you clearly don't understand how things work now. we live in a global world. the lowly employees have zero power. if they do this, they all immediately get fricking fired and get replaced with indian coder-slaves. this happens all the time, in fact, people don't even have to get together for anything, anymore they are just fired, just because frick you.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw want to develop games because games are fun
    >learn coding
    >it's boring as frick

    just get a real job, sitting in front of a computer and write gibberish is not

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just get a real job, sitting in front of a computer and write gibberish is not
      *angry SWE sounds*

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw want to develop games because games are fun
      >Understand frick all about Coding
      >Literally just looks like Gibberish on a computer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ever read a book in a different language? It's about the same feeling.
        And just like a different language, once you start learning, it gets better and better, sentences start forming, meaning appears, and then what you're mostly concerned is that what you write make sense.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Ever read a book in a different language?

          No since I only speak english.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no shit. actual work is never fun, it always sucks fricking ass.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >christmas time
    >pretty much every sector works overtime
    >N-NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN VIDYA DEV CRUNCH POPLE TOLD ME I WILL WORK 4 DAY WORK WEEK WHILE DRINKING ONIONS LATTE ON BEAN BAGS I DIDN'T SING UP FOR THIS!!

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And then Atari crashed and burned.
      Whoda thunk it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        after it was hijacked by some israelite homosexual that drove the company into the ground because he wouldn't cough up any cash
        https://thehustle.co/the-first-easter-eggs-were-an-act-of-corporate-rebellion/

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly no amount of money would make me work that many hours. I might do up to 5 10-hours shift a month but not consecutively. Maybe 2 12-hours workdays a month. No more.
    You don't like it? Frick off. Find another code monkey. I'm sure you will, there are plenty. I know CNC machining, car repair, construction and computer repair. You need me more than I need you.

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to be a game designer in my mid teens but I very quickly realised how fricking boring and miserable it would be as an actual career so I didn’t bother with it.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >took tradepill
    >became a union electrician via apprenticeship
    >overtime is strictly optional
    >Sundays are doubletime
    My only grudge is working with stereotypical boomers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >My only grudge is working with stereotypical boomers.
      Don't feel too bad. That happens in videogame dev too. Except they're all in shit like management, HR, admin, etc which is even worse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >My only grudge is working with stereotypical boomers.
      Don't feel too bad. That happens in videogame dev too. Except they're all in shit like management, HR, admin, etc which is even worse.

      Unions work great for trades, because trades require investment on the part of the worker, and skilled tradesmen are not easily replaceable.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >unions are le bad because you have to pay dues!
    I just checked my paystub and I must admit that's correct. Once a month I have to pay almost 40 dollars and all I get in return for that money is a safe working environment, reasonable working hours, bargaining power, training, full healthcare, vision and dental.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you'd get all that and more if you were good at your job

      unions are only good for bottom feeders

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        I would hate unions for other people because then I know it would only pander to lazy employees, and therefore will produce lower quality products for me.
        However, I'd like unions for me, because then I can be lazy and never get fired. My salary will be lower but it has job security.
        Unions overall though, are a step back for society.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone keeps b***hing about being a game dev but currently there's a fricking massive drought of senior talent in the AAA space because all the veterans fricked off and got replaced by pajeets and underpaid collage graduates. Surely the tides must have shifted somewhat? Or do AAA publishers still think they can just get by on the contractor meatgrind?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Have you ever noticed how games nowaday seems to have an heavily scripted hour of "gameplay" and then everything else is half baked?
      It's usually the gameplay trailer/demo part.
      The strategy shifted from making games to making trends, most of the money goes into marketing.
      Advertise a game enough that people talk about it and every normies will buy your garbage for the right to brag about buying it. Doesn't matter if it ends up being shit, you'll have million of morons who already bought it, so just pump as much filth as quickly as you can, you don't have to worry about bad advertising, you can always just can the current studio and hire another one with the money you made.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The worst part though is when you get people simping for "the poor innocent game devs" that have to work for some nefarious business suits.
        Yes, the business suits are real, but the game devs you're simping for are just as much a bunch of conmen working the marketing trends, UX, MTX, whatever the frick troony woke shit that's part of milking the customer or rotting his brain rather than providing a substantial product. They're just as much to blame.

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    imagine becoming a programmer just to still slave away for a faceless israelite corporation.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I stopped pursuing game development in college once I realized how much I hated programming and how that life was likely hell on earth. Switching focus was one of the best decisions of my life, now I have a well paying job where I don't have to work very hard and browse Ganker all day haha

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    As a software engineer I think game dev has some of the most interesting problems to work on (especially with graphics and physics stuff). But it's also the worst industry to work in. There seems to be little job security, low pay, and insane hours. I get paid way more and work way less at big tech companies.

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Making games is fun, being a wageslave is not. Make games in your spare time while you work a comfy well-paying job.

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being a developer seems fun, being a wagie monkey developing next years FIFA seems like ass
    Of all the careers you could have, game development seems like one where it's the most viable to strike out on your own or work on smaller indie games, going to work for EA or Activision just sounds like a stupid move

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Nooo! You can't join a union! Don't you know that in thirty years they'll be 10% as corrupt as the corporation they protect you from?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Unions in the UK in the 70s crippled the country; if you didn't go along with what the union wanted as a worker, they'd be sending someone round to break your knees and guarentee you wouldn't be working when they want to strike. There'd be frequent blackouts and extended periods of no power. Hand wringing bleeding hearts love to blame Thatcher for everything, but she had to smash the unions to make life actually liveable.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Thatcher
        And then she permanently turned the UK right wing into a bunch of neolibs that allowed the country to cycle into the shitshow it's become now, just like any other nation where "right wing" just means neolib.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I sure love thatcher and the rest of the tory policies that have lead to new PMs caring more about bathrooms and reducation camps if you hate britan then the fricking gas prices or the fourth fricking recession they have led us into

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Nooo! You can't just take your allegedly immense talent and create your own dev studio and work the way you want!

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Working for a AAA studio is like churning out calarts blob person corpo art for TV commercials. There's no soul behind it so it feels fruitless. No one glamourizes being a career software dev in a cubicle and it's been lampooned and ridiculed in countless movies since the 80s.

    That said, modern devs are massive pussies. John Carmack slept under his desk working 80+ hour work weeks, and John Romero was a deadbeat father for almost a decade during their days at Softdisk until the completion of Doom 2. They not only glamorized this lifestyle, but genuinely had a great time passionately making games with their friends. Just fricking playing video games 100 hrs a week gets boring, which is why most people dont do it. But don't try and tell me a casual players opinion matters as much as the guy that plays all the time and still likes doing it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There's a world of difference between working long hours of your own will, for your own benefit, versus working long hours because you were told to so you can make Mr Goldberg richer.

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    NEVER make the thing you like into your job.

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who the frick ever glamorized working for an AAA company? People want to make their own video games.

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have limited knowledge of programming but everything I heard about it as an actual job makes it sound fricking terrible.

    Like 99% of the time it's not some nice clockwork machine where you know what every little thing does, because there's no time for that. Instead it just seems like you're fumbling in the dark with a bunch of Indians, trying to repair a fricking engine with duct tape and chewing gum, with instructions written in some old hieroglyphics from 30 years ago, praying to god that nothing breaks because it needs to be running by monday. That kind of chaotic ramshackle shit would drive me insane.

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >going to some kids and saying your programmed a vehicle engine in GTAV to garner some respect
    wtf who besides groomers does this? Who cares what shitty children think of you?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Hey kid, wanna see how I programmed the vehicle engine in GTA5?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      believe it or not most people outside the us talk to kids and theres no pedophile epidemic there

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >believe it or not most people outside the us talk to kids
        Can you answer my second question then? who cares what 9 year olds think?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't garner the respect of your youth, someone else will. And you won't like the result.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >groom the kids one way or someone else will

  73. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe make good games?

  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What coding should i learn to start basic/prototypal game dev?

  75. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >starts talking about game dev
    >when he actually meant AAA codemonkey

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      man when these people even talk about games they only mean AAA games

  76. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Game dev is only fun for indies, but you're trading income security for being able to make the game you want to make.
    You could also make games on the side of another job, but very few have the drive to both work a job that pays the bills and put down the work to finish a game.

  77. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I would rather kill myself than work in anything computer related. I use it to send emails.

  78. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      absolutely seething
      t. daily milk drinker

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i don't listen to vegans and enzyme-challenged sour grapists

  79. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why the frick is one eye staying open

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Probably had a stroke somewhere it it's life.

  80. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    »608137886
    crunch in soulles corp filled with diversity hires and hrs is hell
    crunch in a tight company of bros is fun

  81. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any "game dev" that I knew from college years were complete impulsive manchildren. Pretty sure most of those homosexuals are slacking off until deadlines approach and then they end up working infinite hours a week to get shit done. Also managers are usually total failure because management is a meme job like HR. Most of those devs are so b***h that they can't even get together to construct an organized response to the company because they are in love with their pay. If that wasn't the case, they would just frick off to another company. But no, they still prefer to "gamedev" in their soulless AAA companies. Being a paycuck PLUS a manchild does this to you, this is your mindset. All they can do is b***h on the internet, and managers know this, so they literally abuse them to death. moronic manchildren with their moronic "yippieee gamedev!!" dreams. What do you expect?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Oh and also, the pipeline is full of those manchildren. Because those morons keep praising their "very fun" gamedev job everywhere on the internet. So the whole generation of CS students fell for this meme. Since the pipeline is crowded, they know they can be replaced easily. They are literally shooting themselves in the foot. They deserve it.

  82. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOOOO I GET THOUSANDS OF BUCKS PER SECONDS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I MUST DO MY JOB, FRICK THE INVESTORS AND FRICK THOSE SUBHUMAN TESTERS WHO MAKE ME WORK, I AM PERFECT, OH WOE UNTO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    stfu

  83. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay. If you're working overtime just switch companies or field, it's not hard. There's plenty of non shit companies around.

  84. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    His complaint has nothing to do with being a developer tho? Its got everything to do with him being a pussy ass b***h.
    Does the contract he has signed allow for this? Then why the frick did he sign it if he does not like insane work hours?

    Wait.. nevermind im looking at this from an european perspective, where we have worker rights.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >where we have worker rights
      That's why the government import thousand of sandBlack folk everyday here, because they're too moronic to defend those rights, and in a few generations, we'll no longer have any.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The main reason governments import immigrants is to drive down labor costs for the sake of capitalists, both because immigrants typically accept low wages and because increasing the supply of workers tends to decrease wages in general.

  85. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >working 100+ hours a week
    I don't believe working 14+ hours a day 7 days a week is the norm in game dev.

    All people I know in the industry work normal full time hours (40 per week), so why does everyone say game devs work an average of 100+ hours? It just seems like an obvious lie that everyone repeats.

  86. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why not work for other companies that aren't Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, or Rockstar? Or do what old devs do and make your own company with some co-workers?

  87. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Caring if others respect you is the biggest trap of society.

  88. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone explain why anybody would want to go into the game industry? From what I gather it has a higher barrier of entry is more competitive, and pays less than jobs requiring a similar skill set like software or web development, and you're probably going to end up working on some AAA garbage or mobile f2p casino games, and you're probably going to have to live in california and pay with 5x cost of living compared to the rest of the country

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly because webshit is boring as frick. Where you live and what you work on will probably vary a lot by company.

  89. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I work as at a midsized game company and haven’t had to deal with any of this lol

  90. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh nooo, I have to work for a big AAA company! Nowhere else exists! It's so haaaaaaard.
    Start your own studio, if the abhuman that made No Mans Sky can do it so can you.

  91. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of moron works for a AAA company without doing research beforehand about the insane work hours, then complains about it? I'm so fricking tired of people. How do we share the same world with these morons?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >selfie
      vain c**t.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      some people underestimate how working long hours kills your soul

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      as a child they wanted to work for videogames, and nobody told them the reality

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        As a child, I wanted to make my own video games, not work for a video game company.

  92. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you know what's awesome? working in construcion. that's the mammajam, right there. yessir. running around sweating your ass off, constantly being one bad day away from being fired, having zero job security at all, literally, the way it works now is you either perform a hundred percent every single day or you immediately get fired, boss-man constantly breathing down your neck trying to get you to work faster, shit co-workers who constantly steal your work-tools and, in general, have that whole crab in a bucket thing where they constantly try to stay ahead of everyone else so they're not the next head on the chopping block... also, you're given no time to learn anything, you're expected to just magically know everything when you're done with your apprenticin'. a lot of apprentices are also just used as cheap fodder, doing all the menial shit no one else wants to, so when they're done apprenticin', they don't know jack shit and have basically just wasted four years of their lives for nuthin'. and everyone knows this happens yet, no one cares. yeh, construction is fricking great.

  93. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This mentality is comparable to going into the music industry not because you love music, but because you saw it as profitable. Any game studio that approaches the medium to make the most money from the most people will end up with games that are jack of all trades and master of none. (Think Far Cry.)
    We never needed studios bigger than AA

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So this is what Gabe looked like before eating all those people.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was a tragic day.

  94. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >glamorized
    It's not though. Everyone knows working in the games industry is shit. There was even a massively popular documentary movie about people almost losing their minds and killing themselves trying to just get a single game made, and that came out like 15 years ago.

  95. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's cool how many field of employment that people are passionate about is guaranteed to be miserable because corporations have an endless amount of disposable laborers whom they can abuse without consequence. Really nice system.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Either work in a less shit company or start your own business if you don't like it.
      Freedom motherfricker.

  96. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >companies can fire you at any time for any reason
    >companies hire wokes n gays and they can't fire them without being sued

    Which one is it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      can fire you at any time for any reason
      At-will employment literally means this
      hire wokes n gays and they can't fire them without being sued
      It's a minefield because you can't discriminate in employment so if there's even a hint of a possibility that a minority wasn't hired or was fired because of their skin color/gender/sexual orientation everything goes to hell

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >American companies won't give you health insurance, sick leaves, paid vacation, overtime pay, but will not misgender you
        Kek

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair you can possibly live without those things but the last one will immediately result in suicide

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Does it really matter if all those benefits just get taken out of your paycheck anyways?
          An engineer in Europe averages 60k gross while one in the US averages 120k.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you can have a shotgun and show who is the boss in the office but you re so homosexuals that even you dont use your second amendment agains the government

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The postal service used to.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              no wonder fallout new vegas happened

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Both? You shouldn't have to suck dicks to guarantee to keep your job, unless you're a secretary.

  97. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Wanting kid's respect

    Only a kid would say this lol

  98. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >AHHH I HAVE A CUSHY DESK JOB AND ONLY GET TO SEE MY WIFE AT 8PM INSTEAD OF 6PM I'M BEING OVERWORKED
    ok

  99. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    are you guys moronic or something imagine if auto had threads about working for General Motors or the origami board had people complaining about making paper. of course it’s a shit job nobody not even once tried to say otherwise except gays who self taught unity

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