>Biggest flop of the last twelve months
>No one cares
>Biggest flop of the last twelve months. >No one cares
>Biggest flop of the last twelve months
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>slowly adding old warfare system back in
honestly no clue what they where thinking
Do they really? HAHAHAHAHAHA but I thought REAL grown up Paradox gamers don't like "playing with toy soldiers"!
The only thing they have added/changed is that stats for battles are detailed better, and that you can set a priority province for the AI to make its way towards instead of using its default pathing mode.
Real grownup Paradox gamers as in chuds who have taken over the forums.
They've taken over the development too, I think one is in charge of the combat changes
Victoria was never focused on war to begin with, you want war? Then go play HOI or Stellaris
>never focused on war
lmao victoria 2 has the exact same war system as hoi3.
adding old warfare system back in
very unlikely they would do this or can at the moment, they would have to change completely the entire codes of the game. they will probably try some random bullshit and creates more bugs in this way, but this is paradox after all, so nothing new. this entire warfare system in vic 3 is the biggest crap that paradox has ever created so far and is the biggest issue that this game has at the moment.
wow great, but did they fix the collapse of front lines into hundreds of smaller ones? or that your army is sent home at oversee, without any reasons? or that naval invasions are still bullshit? also are fleets now useful?
The whole war system experiment was so bizarre. Especially when the devs themselves admitted it was one of the hardest things to program. How did nobody on the team realize that it was a huge waste of time?
I mean I don't want to be mean but look at the last 3-4 titles they've launched. It's not just Victoria 3, it's like they bonked their heads and forgot how to make good games.
>Crusader Kings III
Lots of opinion's on that one
Everyone says it's bad
>Age of Wonders: Planetfall and BattleTech
I have not heard anyone say anything about these games.
Wait, launched games or developed games? They are a publisher as well as developer so they published plenty of games they didn't develop
I’m not arguing against paradox’s modern games being shit, I’m saying that the investment of resources into a war system nobody asked for instead of just reusing the war systems they’ve already created is insane. Paradox are somehow both incredibly greedy and lazy, and put huge amounts of effort into shit that sucks.
Anon it's not an entirely new war system. It is quite literally an obfuscated Hoi4 system as if you use the automated frontline. It just designates provinces as locations to move towards like in Hoi.
People hated and still hate, hoi4's automated army map drawing system. Difference is in hoi4 I can choose not to use it
With HOI4 battlelines, you have troops and they bash their heads against the enemy's line until they hit enough victory points to win.
In Victoria 3, troops have no physical location; they occupy the entirety of whatever front they're assigned to simultaneously, regardless of how many troops are there or how long it is. This is the source of almost everything wrong with the war system besides markets.
The problem with the experiment is that while war isn't a focus of the game, when you do actually go to war it is your sole focus and most important part
Because it's not a controversial flop, but rather a disappointing one.
>Remove war in a century with several major wars
>Fuck up the economic system in a game about the economy
>tfw you remember when they tried to gaslight people en masse that 19th century was this peaceful utopian era of industrial progress alone
I have played three hundred hours and seen the American Civil War maybe twice, and one time it was the North seceding because slavery wouldn't end. I have never seen the AI open Japan, and every time I play the Shogunate I spend 60 years just trying to get the Meiji Restoration. It's insanely difficult for some reason, and there is no event where Japan is opened. The Ottomans are the fucking worst too. You have a timer that starts say one to pass these insane reforms or the entire country explodes. It's one of Paradox's least railroaded titles and that is a bad thing
Sounds great. Shame about the war stuff.
they really tried that?
for the 19th century?
Yeah between roughly 1920-2010 American education absolutely portrayed (and largely still does) the Victorian area as a march of industrial progress with some hiccups along the way like slavery and monopolistic transport and energy tycoons that we definitely took care of perfectly 😉
Well they aren't wrong, after Napoleon Europe hardly saw any war
>Crimean war, Franco Prussian, unification of Italy, Greek independence+ Balkan wars
Are you having a laugh or what?
The Concert of Europe was still working back then
>try to "de-problematic-ize" a century most known for rampant colonization and human rights violations
All of that and it still lets you do it/has no interactions with natives anyway. Also countries will keep slavery until the end of the game despite it making no economic sense
>keeping slavery despite it making no economic sense
Slavery has never made any economic sense.
It did until roughly the 1840s. Part of the reason the South was so desperate was because it could see the writing on the wall and didn't build infrastructure because it relied so much on slavery
Yes it did stop with this meme.
Otherwise people wouldnt have done it.
For subsistence economies it makes sense. I'm an industrial consumption-based market economy it absolutely does not.
Surely you're not naive enough to believe that the end of slavery coinciding with the industrial revolution was purely coincidental and slave holders simply realized how bad and sad it was.
>For subsistence economies it makes sense.
I'm glad you agree.
You know damn well that's not what you meant when we're talking about a game that is explicitly about transitioning to market economies and abandoning practices that no longer make economic sense (slavery).
Don't be a cunt.
Anon, it took civil wars and revolutions to end slavery. Slave holders did not just willingly give them up because they recieved more profits without them.
A vast majority of slave trading countries willingly ended slavery, and half of the United States did. The CSA wasn't the norm
Brazil you retard??? They didn't get rid of it until 1888
So around the time Brazil caught up a little further in economic development. Cool. Face it dude, if slavery was ever practical in modern economies it would've stuck around until WW2 just like the colonial system.
Slaves don't pay taxes
>buy these slaves
>now free them
The entire reason why the Belgian Congo went from being personally owned by the king to being taken from the government was the result of one of the first cancellation campaigns
I will never forgive them for taking a "moral stance" against the phrase deus vult, in a fucking game called CRUSADER KINGS. It's totally meaningless and pointless, but it shows where the company is at right now. They don't care so much about the history and historical accuracy so much as they do about being "on the right side of history". It's wild.
it still suckered more than 50k people to buy it on steam alone
and retards will still buy the dlc's en masse despite it being a flop
people expected it to be shit, expectations we're already low.
Paradox titles on release are bare-bones as fuck compared to the old game in the series, and your waiting for the DLC/updates to come in.
Paradox is full of dumb moron lovers that do not understand modular development. Having to reinvent the wheel for every interation of a series is inexcusable. In a better world they would be sued for this level of incompetence
the problem is their DLC retardation
you can't modify things without removing the DLC featurs so are forced to keep them like AIDS
Because Ganker is normie central regardless of what you've read here, if it ain't nintoyndo it ain't (you).
As for my opinion on the game, the coin dropped once they did the first Dev steam playing as Japan and it became clear that the game was an overglorified cookie-cliker, fill your construction que and wait.
Paradox devs don't understand why people play their games. They actually think people play multiplayer for one. It actively has made EU4 less fun and more restricted
Do they actually think that or do they just think cultivating a multiplayer audience is cultivating a an audience that won't pirate DLC?
They sell enough piracy doesn't matter. EU4 has something called "end game tags" where once you are that you can't switch to anything else. You know why? One of the devs lost a multiplayer game where his opponent did some fuckery and conquering to transform the Mongols into Prussia and it made him mad.
That shit was around in EU3 as well, you could do some odd country changes by changing your primary culture in unintended ways but you weren't allowed to form nations as special tags like the Papal States or HRE.
>the coin dropped once they did the first Dev steam
and not the three shit games in a row they released before it?
Does Vicky3 still have that single threading horseshit that makes the other modern paradox games turn to manure at late game
>it's another base game on release is absolute dog shit and needs to be fixed with 10 years of $2000 worth of DLC episode
at this point I'm starting to think they're doing it on purpose
>at this point I'm starting to think they're doing it on purpose
From a business perspective, why wouldn't you? They buy it anyway, despite complaining.
It works more often than it doesn't.
does anyone else think modern paradox is just fucking doomed? think of ck3, imperator rome, some other sim so forgettable i dont even remember its name and now this fucking thing. only thing they have going that is relatively modern is stellaris and hoi4 and they are from 2016 (who tf cares about skylines)
whenever they make a sequel they keep going on and on about "focusing on the essence of the game" and act as if their prior design choices were wrong which is not only some huge cuck shit but also wrong as it shows with vic 2 and ck2 being WAY better and more fleshed out. a future eu V is going to be shit at this point.
Imperator Rome flopping was the death knell, if Life By (You) is successful I don't think they'll really care about their gsg catalog much. Cities Skylines is one of the best selling PC games ever, they care comparatively little about the Victorian economy sim.
>ate Sim City's lunch
>about to eat The Sims' lunch
Paradox is going to go from the king of 'hardcore' to the king of 'casual' in five years.
Life By You will never dethrone The Sims, especially now that TS4 is F2P. It's being sent out to die. Paradox got tricked into thinking they can steal EA's lunch money whenever they want just because Sim City shit the bed a decade ago
What could Life by You actually do that The Sims doesn't? Seems like with TS4 especially people don't have major problems with the actual game itself, just DLC etc which has been a problem since 2 and Paradox will not improve on
People want an open game like TS3 where you don't hit a loading screen every time you walk across the road, but with the visuals of TS4. That's basically it. The shot of the car driving in the trailer is promising but the visuals are choppy; don't expect Paradox's raggity dev team to beat EA at visuals. You'll see Sims content creators praising the game for challenging The Sims - you won't find any of them actually playing it once it releases.
Seems likely. I actually want a mission based game like the handheld Sims/Medieval, it wasn't as good when it was done in TS4
Sims had some amazing focused games back on the ps2, Sims bustin out, urbz, castaway, I wish they kept making them.
It's being made by the guy that did sims 3, hopefully more like that but doesn't run like shit and less like sims 4.
Skylines didn't eat EAs lunch, it was the only food actually offered to people. EA burned the lunch and dropped it on the floor then gave up. The Sims is/was handled better but maybe Life by You can do even better
ck3 was great at launch (and still is) and was rightfully successful
it's the singular example that doesnt fucking apply and the fact you mention it among Imperator and Shiggy3 means you're just spouting memes without thinking, probably you dont even play
While I do enjoy a lot of the features in CK3, CK2 is still a much better game, and the fact that CK3 is missing so many mechanics from CK2 just so they can sell them as DLCs again is absolutely fucking gay
ck2 is a better game but the interface will make you crosseyed and blind with all the tiny text
>ck3 was great at launch (and still is) and was rightfully successful
No it wasn't. It got the "DLC will fix it" pass, and the strategy mechanic DLCs have never come.
Ck2 is objectively better than 3 , it has a decade worth of content for it , and paradox is just fucking about with ck3 dlc by not releasing anything substantial at all.
I remember when they kept going on and on about how CK3 would have everything 2 did up to Holy Fury then a month before release they started with the "uhh ackshually we won't have playable republics or hordes or factions or China mechanics because we want to rework those features or something, but you can turn catholicism into a religion of cannibal nudists isn't that hecking cool??"
>ck3 was great at launch (and still is)
No. I had about 400hrs in ck2 before 3 got released. Dumped 150hrs into ck3 a couple of years ago and lost interest. Since then the only one of the two I came back to play is ck2. It's just more fleshed, has great mods and is mechanically better.
>ck3 was great at launch (and still is) and was rightfully successful
Got any sources for those claims, champ?
>ck3 was great at launch
>(and still is)
CK III is good, it just needs a few more DLCs and it'll actually be more worth to buy or pirate than CK II. Vicky III isn't even a Victoria game.
CK3 would be fine if paradox didn’t treat it like the red-headed stepchild.
>alienate the majority of your incredibly niche audience by bastardizing or removing all the systems people enjoyed about it
>try to play down the "problematic" issues with the setting by appealing to the groups that were imperialised, whilst also having one of the most Eurocentric understandings of world history at the core of your design choices
>bank success off of new players discovering the series
Who could have forseen this?
flop of the last twelve months
Imagine thinking either of these niche games barely anyone gives a shit about is the biggest flop of the past year when Forspoken exists
No one had any hope for forspoken
Everyone predicted that it would flop.
Forspoken is the better game and yes I have played both
How is it a flop exactly? It's doing massively better than victoria 2.
~~*Paradox*~~ heavily simplified the war and economy system. You can teleport armies from one corner of the world to another without suffering attrition, westernization was removed altogether because muh Kangz wuz advanzed before colonizer Crakkkaz ruined it, etc...
>westernization was removed altogether because muh Kangz wuz advanzed before colonizer Crakkkaz ruined it, etc
Fuck off with your false narrative, all they did was remove the label primitive nation.
Because it makes total sense that Persia, a region and nation that has more history and culture then all of Europe is a "primitive" nation
It actually works for everything but colonization in Africa. Mainly for the reasons you say in non European countries
Maybe my brain is tired but I don't get what you're saying
Japan should not be an uncivilized nation and neither should Persia. Victoria 3 handles it better
Mate in the 19th and most of the 20th century "uncivilized" literally just meant "not being a west european", back then Middle Easterners, pajeets and chinks were all considered uncivilized peoples who had to be taught civilization by Europe the same way they did to an african tribal. Not even those countries gave that much of a shit, which is why the japanese and ottomans all felt the need to also copy european dress and customs when they modernized.
The definition of "civilization" as "living in cities" didn't really become universal until like the past 50 years or so.
Japan and Persia have histories longer than most Western European nations, "unrecognized" works better because it reflects that Europeans ignored this because imperialism
Japan was still in middle age before america knock and 0 technological level
Persia more advance but still a shithole sociaety with 0 innovation.
they are uncivilized at 100% without europeans they would enver develop
>but still a shithole sociaety with 0 innovation
How do you know?
>they are uncivilized at 100% without europeans they would enver develop
And now your true colours are showing, you know without riches from Asia Europe would be dirt poor and unable to industrialise
total isolation and lack of knowledge
>without the riches of Asia
all carbon was from England and Germany
INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION HAPPENED THANKS THE CHEAP RESOURCE OF CARBON IN ENGLAND.
your true colors of retard show
You think it's a mere coincidence that the industrialism happened after the English got hold of India? That the taxes which the people of the region paid ended up in England
Also are you sure you're thinking of carbon and not coal?
He's very clearly ESL and can barely string a sentence together
Cool tell me how indian resource tell english the math for the steam engine?
samefag is pathetic
>resource tell english the math for the steam engine?
It doesn't, but with more money in their coffers they have more money to spend. Like on new inventions and other investments
Mughuls were richer then england same for China.
both lost and english won
What you mean both lost?
both never develop like europe even with more population, resource and whealth.
this is why lost.
instead europe won with no resource, no population and no whelth.
>europe won with no resource, no population
You might want to double take that part
Muslims had fertile lands, dominion of the sea, commerce with China etc..
China had the majority of human population
India produce the biggest resource on earth
europe with 0 of these things
MATH >>>> EVERYTHING ELSE
>europe with 0 of these things
he says when some of the most fertile soil in the world is found in France and Ukraine
Not true, the reason colonization kicked off was because all those industrialized nations started looking for large, exclusive markets for the goods they're producing in order to keep increasing production. See Opium wars.
lol no, japan was pre-roman british isles-tier until like the 8th century AD
>Japan and Persia have histories longer than most Western European nations,
And yet Europe managed to absolutely mog the shit out of them by the 17th century lmao
lol fuck off weeb. Trying to fucking compare Japan to Persia is laughable.
Japan was just a bunch of squabbling tribes when Rome was dominant in Western Europe. They were completely irrelevant throughout history until Europeans landed on their shores.
LOL the industrial revolution started in Europe with coal founded in Europe. Try harder.
Read what you wrote and think really really carefully about it.
The claim was that without Asian wealth Europe would be dirt poor.
Yet a supposedly dirt poor tiny island nation halfway across the world conquered one of the largest and most populated countries on the planet. BEFORE THEY EVEN INDUSTRIALIZED.
Last time I checked, no poor nation could manage that.
>The claim was that without Asian wealth Europe would be dirt poor.
Well yes, by all accounts India and China were both richer then Europe. This all changed however when the east India company took control of India, suddenly all that moment found in India went to England.
>Last time I checked, no poor nation could manage that.
Well you should check harder then, like how Roman got defeated by the German tribes. The reason how England was able to do this was by exploiting existing tension in the region
Lose what? England is no longer the power they once were, are they losing? Same with all former European empires
>MATH >>>> EVERYTHING ELSE
Wait, are you implying that only Europeans had math?
are we speaking about now or 1800-1900 where the game took place?
>Wait, are you implying that only Europeans had math?
when portugal fought india, both have muskeeters and cannon but portugal had Venetians.
a single shot of a cannon could be predicted by venetians math, making them win again 100 times superior force.
egypt, north africa, etc.. romans single handed feed 100 million people with these 2 land.
You are a special kind of stupid idiot if you think Europeans are the only ones who had math, I should be angry for wasting my time with someone this stupid but you opened my eyes to a special kind of stupid that I can't help but stare in awe of it.
set theory alone created all modern science, set theory created by europeans
did you know +-*/ were created in 1600?
if math can define the universe, math can be used to create efficient boats, weapons and trade routes to allow europeans to compensate their lacks.
Did you know that no native European number system had the number 0?
Did you know that the Chinese came up with the concept of negative numbers?
so no one had the concept of zero?
what mean the number 0,1,2?
1 exist 0 do not exist
NO OTHER MATH SYSTEM HAVE SETS
JUST THE EUROPEAN ONE
your ancestor are superior to use because they used rocks and sticks better?
No they had a concept of zero, they just didn't have a number for it. I don't really get it either but if you want an example of what I mean go find out how 0 looks like in the Roman and ancient Greek number system
a thing exist or not
the absolute axiom of the universe
even caveman knew what 0 means
I get your point but zero is a important number, a number which no European number system has.
How do you write 0,57 in Roman numbers?
an object is defined by its proprietis not by a simble.
Romans understand the object not a meaningless emoji.
Romans bridges were made with sqrt(3) or 5, thanks romans understand of math objects.
Show me the number 0 in a European number system.
In some nations (most notably the British Empire) the government had to pay slave holders for lost labour after slavery was abolished.
you have the burden of proof retard.
the point is how european math was superior to all others in 1800-1900 making them the strongest and beong able to made the industrial revolution
You don't even seem to be aware that our current number system comes from the Arabs
0123456789, this an Arabic system.
this is the indian system which arabs bring to europe
a number system is just a way to rapresent math NOT MATH
thsi show you are a retard
Where's that native European 0
Just saying that the willingness of ending slavery needed some extra push from the government in order to get the slave holders to go along with it
not the point retard
I see. You're just another autist that needs to pretend they're slightly critiquing something that doesn't need critique so they can compensate for their insecurity over their never having read a book and their entire education coming from 19 year old YouTubers.
>government spends money to end economically inefficient practices because capital is tied up in it and people do not think macroeconomically and are reluctant to lose their capital
>this means the practice was actually efficient
Damn dude. You manage to feed yourself that brain?
You went SIR, DO NOT REDEEM awful quick.
The romans did not get "defeated", whatever that fucking means, by a bunch of german tribes.
The fall of the Western Roman Empire, wich what you are talking about, is way more complicated than just "barbarians invaded".
>is way more complicated than just "barbarians invaded".
So you say and believe that, then you also admit that the British conquest of India is way more complicated than just "they were just better"
oh what about the Huns, who the Byzantine had to bribe to get off their land?
I'm not the anon you were talking to about India.
Anyways you sound like a retard fuck. Stop posting anytime.
>expecting a history thread on Ganker not to be retarded
give up, it's not worth the blood pressure.
Anon that's just subjective. You don't enjoy it as much as CK2, but that doesn't make CK3 bad. Elder Kings, Godherja, LotR full conversions are already out for it, After the End is in beta, and AGOT should be coming out for it this year.
Compared to 19th century Europeans, yeah they were pretty damn primitive
How? Because they didn't send their children to work in factories? Because they didn't send all their shit water in their drinking water?
oh shut up with that horeshit, if nonsense like that true then why are there still Hindus around?
Because their technology was still objectively inferior to that of Europe, children dying or not doesn't change that.
Arguably not, the guns where all the same. The only difference was the industrial production.
Zoroastrian is still around, the Persian elite adopted Islam and the Islamic caliphates formed society around the Persian elite.
Because I'm sick and tired of 4chan's horeshit, it's always those fuckers who go "X doesn't exist because it was invaded and replaced". Seeing that anywhere gets me angry so the response gets as much thought put into it as the argument does. Which is none
you are such a tool, stfu
ZOROASTRIAN PERSIA WAS THE CIVILIZATION
invaded and desteoyed 300 times
Why can you not articulate your "argument" without cursing? Are you really that low IQ?
Pesia was killed after arab invasion
muslims has nothing of old arabs retard.
>mod the shit of ck3 since its the only way to have decent clothes and events
>achievements stop working
I know you want to be part of a Tortanic-like thread and feel excitement, but not everyone slavers for retarded flops to take the piss out of 24/7
I don't know what kind of a game this is, but that poster looks like commie bullshit so good riddance.
I think everyone just quietly expected it to be shit. Some were hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but it's like reading there will be rain according to tomorrow's forecast. You can still hope it'll be sunny, but you're not exactly 'upset' when it does rain the next day.
The best anyone hoped for was something thats not a total trainwreck that might be playable 3 years down the line
Honestly I checked out once they started doing their dev reports on colonization and shit. Vicky is not the series to be pulling that shit with. The fun of the game was balancing the economic system WITH war and colonizing. If you gimp those aspects there's not much left
Anon, you know what was actually the biggest flop in terms of development costs that's actually forgotten? Pic related.
Honestly paradox is getting worse and worse.
CK3 Went all in on the reddit memes with customizable religions with cannibal polyamory popes and shitty "roleplay" events simulators like the royal court dlc instead of expanding and refining elements from Ck2 like having better bizantine government, better representation of investiture crisis better republics and nomads, deeper economy and realm managment.
With victoria 3 they made a shitty mobile tier system for warfare with only 3 buttons you can press because "micromanagmemt is bad okay sweaty" only to turn trade and economy into actual micromanagment hell with individually setting trade routes and production methods and individually constructing every building basically pretending that every single country in the 19th century was a planned economy shithole like the Soviet Union.
No shit anon, they've been getting steadily worse since CK2
No, EU4 wasn't good just because it was your first Paradox game
No, no Republics, no imperial governent for byzantines, no college of cardinals, no nomads, all religions feeling generic and not unique, no realm laws like in conclave, no real epidemic system like in reaper due.
Next expansion is actually about tournaments, with more roleplay shit like royal court and epic memes like a dedicated organize Red wedding button just like in my heckin Game of thrones for the reddit upboats even though killing people in mass at weddings wasn't actually a thing in the middle ages.
On the bright side they are finally adding regencies 3 years after release, that will be 30$ plus tax thank you.
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and not to
>On the bright side they are finally adding regencies 3 years after release
Lmao are there really no regencies in ck3? I can't remember
Does CK3 even have republics yet?
the first time played eu4 is see the writing
THE GAMING DIFFICULT IS HISTORICAL SO NOT ALL THE NATION ARE BALANCED.
NOW IS JUST TOTAL COSTUMIZATION
NO MORE HISTORICAL
Has he killed himself yet?
how much garden gnomegold would it take you to shill like him?
Despite everything I like CKIII and I actually like its UI but it's seriously neglected which is disappointing
That's grim. Is this just due to paradox incompetence? Video game development is taking longer in general these days.
>game is actually almost feature-complete at launch
>for once not going full garden gnome with dlc
>this is a bad thing!
Just needs republics and the game is done.
Need Holy Fury like two years ago.
Its weird because CK3 was obviously released with missing features intended for DLC and was a pretty big success but then nothing happened.
>sword of islam
>legacy of rome
a weird one but not bad
a decent one
>the old gods
one of the best dlcs of ck2
>sons of abraham
>rajas of india
performance got killed with this one, i remember this
you could've saved yourself the trouble of typing all of that and just wrote "I'm gay"
you could've saved yourself the trouble of typing all of that and just wrote "I'm gay"
>ck2 dlc actually added content
>ck3 dlc is all "roleplay" garbage nobody wants
what happened parabros
CK2 DLC added content that was in CK3 at release. You couldn't even play as non-christian countries in base CK2.
I'm thinking of getting into CK only for the "roleplay". Should I buy CK2 or CK3?
>only for the "roleplay"
it's actually best played like that (roleplay and "handicap" yourself) and in ironman mode, once you learn either game's mechanics which are not that hard then they are extremely easy to abuse and when you start to minmax it destroys the fun beyond one or two playthroughs
actually watching shit fall apart and scrambling to fix it in any way possible then adapting makes for fun games
WHY THERE IS NO CORPORATISM?
Turn on laissez faire and get the industrialists in government
why i can't shot the corporations leader who do bad?
Fascism is in the game.
Fascism do not mean a racist as party leader.
i want unique featurs as CORPORATISM.
an Absolute monarchy has no difference with fascism in this shit game
>Insult and alienate your extremely small fanbase
>Make a sequel game that is nothing like the previous one
>On top of that, the game is shit
Everyone at Paradox deserves the rope and I could not give less of a shit.
well yeah, that's what flop means
>Fascism and communism are both considered "populist"
biggest flop was this game being pozzed by ubisoft
>sold over 100 time more than Victoria 2
What did he mean by this?
Doesn't communism break the economy for this game?
this game is fundamentally fucked and you would need to rework every single aspect of the game to fix it, which you might as well just make another game altogether
first of all it runs like ass, worse than any pdx game i've played, 1k error messages in 30 minutes of gameplay
the UI is genuinely dog shit and makes the game unplayable, things that were easy to find now require hovering over tooltips inside tooltips
the game doesn't even have the most basic map modes
for a game that wants to focus on pops, you can't really view them like you could in v2
the war mechanic doesn't simplify anything, you just have less control over it, but it requires just as much micromanagement as it did before
oops, the front you advanced broke into 3 seperate fronts, if you don't do anything your troops will be surrounded
the front ended, well now your general is teleported into africa
the economy is bad
it's ridiculuous that changing production methods in a factory works in an all or nothing fashion, it can't happen organically as you start to produce the required resources and becomes more efficient
no a factory instantly changes 100% to the new production method if you have the necessary materials or not
almost every country starts with basicly nothing, not even fucking farms
this is 100% historically accurate, there were no farms before the industrial revolution only subsistence mudhut farms
all countries play almost the same, dude make tools or you're fucked
changing laws is RNG siege timers and the government legitimacy mechanic is just bad
To be fair, tooltips inside tooltips is just a substitute for a wiki.
I loved Vicky 2 and put hundreds of hours into it. But I booted up Vicky 3 and within 20min realized what an absolute disaster it was and refunded it. It reminds me of the state that Imperator Rome was in when it first launched, just in a different fashion. IR was bare bones and cookie cutter, Vicky 3 on the other hand was just a poorly designed mess.
>It reminds me of the state that Imperator Rome was in when it first launched
its a shame that they give up on it after the marius update. probably because for vic3, which they thought it would go better than imperator rome.
Yeah it disappointed me when I learned that they totally shelved it for good. I actually really enjoyed it even with it's issues, and the last update actually fixed quite a few problems. I still hold the opinion that is has the most beautiful map so far out of all Paradox titles. I put a good 500 hours into the sucker.
I thought they killed it to send the dev team to help fix the shitshow that was the leviathan update for EU4
That but it also was not turning out well enough for them
I haven't played it since release, have they fixed anything yet?
>this game will not be a painting map game
>you can conquest until 50 of infamy
trannies can't even respect their own memes
I really like Vicky 3. I prefer playing it to V2 at this point(but that might be because I have actual thousands of hours in V2 and have done everything)
The economy system is great. The warfare is a welcome change, because micromanaging units in V2 was the most cancerous shit to ever be in video games. There are loads more nations, and little dominion states that add flavor. Modding fixes the more retarded parts of the game like literacy and building automation.
how can build your building great?
the all point of economy is create the best system for the building to build themself.
even in communism Stalin didn't build every single building by himself
Well good thing 1.2 that comes out Monday adds autonomous investment by various groups so you don't have to. So now when you need X good but all your slots are taken by capitalists building uneeded factories, good luck.
as an add-on
gov builds roads and port totally ok but not the rest.
even with the update that investiment pool is just a Bonus of your micro economy where your perfect META is destroyed by the capitalist bad AI choices.
they need roads + technology = % of AI capitalists to build an industry, without palyer interference.
Guy is not white. Rejected.
i put 400+ hours into vic2
prob the same into eu3
i cant stand the new games but ive also never "finished" a game of eu3 or vic2
I made Sweden bigger.
>Greenland still under Danish control
>Finland not under your control
You done a lot of work, but you're far from finished.
Greenland's only city is a Spanish treaty port. The capital of Denmark is a Caribbean island. I won. Finns will never be Scandinavian.
Get your balls back, sven.
Is Scandinavia still stupidly OP in Vicky3?
Still? Usually they suck in every Paradox game hilariously. This is the first one where they're good, and even then I'm only a major power
Vicky 2 Sweds get to shit out a fleet bigger than England with their infinite ports right out of the gate and they start with 80% literacy. Any time the AI accidently forms Scandinavia they maintain world power for the entire game
Everything is OP because the AI is dogshit.
if you play victoria 3 then you're a gay. simple as
Is EU4 good?
Paradox works hard to make it worse every patch but there's still a lot of fun to be had.
The main thing about Grand Strat sequels is the question of, "What can this sequel do that the last game couldn't?" And for Grand Strats, that answer is always nothing and in fact it has less than the last game. So why even bother? Vicky 3 and CK3 did zero to improve upon their predecessors and released with less game.
>you need to install ai mod to make game work
Islamic civilizations are boring
Get woke go broke
Paradox GSGs went to shit long before that was a thing
>flooded with ESL's
Didn't see that one coming
Afghanistan was my most fun run
Paradox doesnt even get that much attention, sure it was bad for a studio their size but its not a mainstream Cyberpunk-level Tortanic