Blizzard changes EULA to include forced arbitration & you "dont own anything".

WE ARE BACK!

https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Illegal. You can't sign away your consumer rights under law using a contract.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://casetext.com/case/nicholas-v-wayfair-inc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        American law is not universal. You can't enforce EULAs like that in the EU and Australia
        And besides, the Defendant in that case had to prove that
        >the arbitration agreement was conscionable
        >the plaintiff had read the terms and conditions
        So: If I scroll through a text without reading them, or get my cat to click the button, the agreement is invalid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter really. You'd have to challenge it and prove that it is illegal in the court. And fighting these corporations costs money, lotsa money. No single consumer is going to spend millions just to prove that this shit is illegal.
      God I love our justice system

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is why class action lawsuits exist. Why fight big corpo alone when you can do it together?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Class action does nothing. When did it ever lead to any meaningful results?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I got like $12 in a class action once.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the moldman is coming. April soon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Americlaps are cattle and have no consumer rights.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, you can sign a EULA that says they can kill your dog and if they actually do you'd likely have to fight animal protection agencies.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait for Assmonbald to spin it around an call it a good tactic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL GOY"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Oy vey owning things is antisemtic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL GOY"

      He just literally said "WoW is back" on his stream. Guy is mazed for life.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is literally sponsored by Blizzard

        >someone in chat asks him if he is getting paid by Blizzard to play Dragonshite during his last stream
        "Heh..do you see this doods...paid he says huh..."
        >doesn't even give an answer to it
        Because lying about it is illegal. But he isn't lying if he isn't giving an actual answer.
        He obviously doesn't wanna play this shit anymore but you can be certain they pay him well to shill it every now and then.
        >SNEEDOLANDS WAS ACTUALLY GOOD DOOD I STAND BY IT

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't understand how can anyone with 3 digit IQ take this grifter seriously.
          >defends mtx and poor performance in DD2 for as long as he's being sponsored
          >contractual hours stop
          >dooood this game sux!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            None of them have 3 digit IQ. Global intelligence has been falling, despite what the stats would have you believe

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Global intelligence has been falling
              Gee I wonder if it has anything to do with the ever increasing amount of shitskin plus the brain rot caused by social media
              Nah, it must be the sexism and patriarchy!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well, it is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He probably say, "if they make a good game people will eat it up" and he would be right. Big payoff now > dealing with consequences later. Simple as

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder for people who don't instinctively suck his wiener to look up Night Media, the company that owns him and his opinions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess, owned and controlled by big nosed goblins?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Worse :
          "Reed Duchscher (born July 13, 1989) is an American talent manager and investor. He is the CEO and founder of Night Media, and talent manager of YouTube personality MrBeast and Minecraft content creator Dream. Rugby, North Dakota, U.S."

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Duchscher is the CEO while the president since 2020 is ~~*Ezra Cooperstein*~~, an early employee of the now-defunct Fullscreen and the former president of Rooster Teeth.
        LOL!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why'd he kill his mom anyway? Was it for the stream views?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Assmonbald
      he was defending denuvo yesterday and saying chat just doesn't understand economics

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Another eceleb sprouting nonsense.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If purchasing a game means I don't own it, then pirating means I didn't steal it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would anyone want to pirate a current blizzard game though?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        to make blizzard lose sales duh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      blizzard doesnt even make single player games anymore

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Xbox will save Blizzard!

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I pay for nothing, and i'm happy

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blizzard has always tried to get away with the "you don't own anything" for years, they're STILL assblated over DoTA and how it came to existence because of a WC3 mod, its funny how now they're basically trying to tell you outright "you don't own shit and never will"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only post WoW. That pos mmo ruined them.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >average IQ starts dropping down for the first time ever in the recorded history
    >competency crisis at bay
    >moronic consumerist cattle addicted to wasting money on live service content because average people have 0 hope and faith in saving and investing, as their money gets eaten by inflation and they'll never buy that house
    It's truly ogre isn't it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just the massive influx of shitskins lowering the white average

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      competency crisis isnt because people are dumber, its because Black folk and femoids are being put into positions where they dont belong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Crimes against humanity with leaded fuel and fluoridated water
      Boomers were already cooked and now we're cancerous and homosexual with plastic leeching into our foods and babies inheriting additional anxiety and homosexualry through aspartame and cat shit toxoplasmosis during pregnancy.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well looks I don't own any blizzard products at least

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blizzard doesn't need pirates to lose sales, they're doing just fine on their own.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cannot even login to delete my account if I dont accept those terms
    What the frick do I do now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're in the EU, get a lawyer. Clauses like that are against customer laws.
      If your in the US, good luck.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well I am in the EU but the lawsuit will probably come on its own without having to pay for a lawyer so I'll let the official lawsuit do its thing.
        Its not like im in a hurry to delete it, I havent logged into my acount for... idk, 3-4 years now?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          just let them know at least. can't take action if nobody tells them, and that is what blizz is betting on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How do I 'let them know'?
            Its not like lawyers are open to suggestions, they only take action if it benefits them somehow.
            I dont have social media of any kind to be vocal about this, I dont know who and how to get the action started.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine giving a cent to activision/blizzard lmao, absolute dogshit company

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait for Blizzard to try to explain how this doesn't collide with EU laws. It will be fun.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    prepare for EU lawsuit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't wait for Blizzard to try to explain how this doesn't collide with EU laws. It will be fun.

      This. EU isn't burgeristan, companies can't do whatever the frick they want. You'd think they learned after Apple got it's balls squeezed - tho Blizzard being obnoxious fricks isn't that surprising.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never ever ever once bought a game from these goofballs. Their playerbase seems like a bunch of cocaine rotbrains. If you support this company you get what you deserve.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's so funny to me, so many people made a big song and dance about quitting WoW during the sexual assault lawsuits, the breast milk thief shit, all the other stuff on top of WoW quality hitting rock bottom.
      WoW and blizzard have done the bare minimum in releasing a half competent expansion since then, and adding re-releasing old expansions and apparently that's enough for these same people to shout loudly
      >"WOW IS BACK IT'S SAVED"
      I'm amazed at the level of brain rot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blizzdrones are the most bootlicking bootlickers to ever bootlick and that's genuinely impressive considering tendies exist

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were cool bros in the 90s.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what does it mean

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what does it mean

      >'hey I want to buy X'
      >'sure, but you must agree to Y terms'
      >'okay, thanks!'
      >'enjoy X' 🙂

      [some time passes]

      >'hey, remember you bought X from us?'
      >'YES, I love X'
      >'you must agree to the Z terms, they state you dont own X anymore'
      >'uuuh, those are not the conditions I agreed to when I bought X'
      >'well then you dont have access to X anymore until you agree you dont own it'

      >money stolen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sounds like you never owned X to begin with.
        but what's so bad about agreeing to the new Z terms, anyway?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Casually removing ownership of stuff you paid for doesnt sound bad enough?
          Jesus Christ this place is hopeless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Casually removing ownership of stuff you paid for doesnt sound bad enough?
            I'm saying that you didn't own them in the first place. You're the moron who agreed to these terms first.
            Now tell me why don't you just click "I agree" without reading, the same way you did on the old terms, what changed? Do the new terms say you have to donate your organs to blizzard or something?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think anyone can legally force you to use arbitration. is there any case law about people just refusing arbitration and going to court instead?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just a few weeks ago.
      https://electrek.co/2024/03/08/tesla-forces-another-class-action-customers-arbitration/
      >U.S. District Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers in Oakland, California, released her judgment siding with Tesla on Thursday. The judge didn’t address the merit of the claims, but she agreed with Tesla that the customers agreed to let go of their right to sue Tesla and go through arbitration instead when they signed their order agreement.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >some Hispanic illegal alien they gave a gavel and said could be a judge decided you can sign your rights away
        Sounds right

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        apparently, consumers can opt out of the forced arbitration clause so yeah it's their fault
        try again dummy

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a good thing or a bad thing. And explain why.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You don't own anything
    Diablo, Diablo 2, Warcraft 1-3 and StarCraft are all on the shelf behind me

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy frick who is still playing Blizzard games? The company has been dead for ten years and I'm still hearing about it from you homosexuals. Jesus fricking christ. When was the last time they released a single player game? Can they even make games anymore?
    Blizzard and their homosexual fanboys reminds me so much of the British, still riding on past glories and shouting loud and proud how great they are, meanwhile in present day they're a fricking joke.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All changes in ToS's and EULAs post-sale must be accompanied with an option to receive your full purchase price back as a refund.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who'd want to own the trash they have anyway? Diablows 4? Overwatch? You'd have to pay me to play this garbage.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bobby kotick ruined Blizzard !

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's a israelite!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No my problem.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every year Blizzard somehow manages to become even worse
    How do they do it bros?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slowly replace talented white nerds with diversity hires
      Gee I WONDER

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You keep buying their stupid subscription letting allowing them to survive, that's how.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Illegal in the EU

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the EU you cannot sign your rights away.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you EU bros for being the last bastions against corporations eroding consumer rights.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shouldnt the "buy" button for games then turn into "rent" at this point? Since you dont own the game, youre renting it

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey that's fine, so playing private servers doesn't mean I'm stealing anything. Let me know when a decent less troony one surfaces so I can ditch Turtle WoW for it.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Giving Blizzard money in current year.
    LOL, LMAO even.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Totalbiscuit is laughing from heaven

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT you can waive your rights to sue in USA?
    what a third word bushcountry you live in?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ive noticed more and more companies requiring this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The federal government has explicitly allowed arbitration clauses. The relevant law is found in the Federal Arbitration Act, which permits compulsory and binding arbitration, under which parties give up the right to appeal an arbitrator's decision to a court.[17] Historically, arbitration in the United States in the employment context was primarily used for disputes between unions and employers. Starting in 1991 with the Gilmer decision this changed dramatically, expanding from 2.1 percent of the employers subject to mandatory arbitration clauses in 1992[18] to 53.9% in 2017.[19]
        >54% of people can't sue their employers
        ok I see it now
        that rot started in USA
        it's nothing new, it's just spreading to other countries

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ive noticed more and more companies requiring this.

      >The federal government has explicitly allowed arbitration clauses. The relevant law is found in the Federal Arbitration Act, which permits compulsory and binding arbitration, under which parties give up the right to appeal an arbitrator's decision to a court.[17] Historically, arbitration in the United States in the employment context was primarily used for disputes between unions and employers. Starting in 1991 with the Gilmer decision this changed dramatically, expanding from 2.1 percent of the employers subject to mandatory arbitration clauses in 1992[18] to 53.9% in 2017.[19]
      >54% of people can't sue their employers
      ok I see it now
      that rot started in USA
      it's nothing new, it's just spreading to other countries

      I don't think arbitration works with products because products themselves have laws and shit they have to follow so they can't just delete all consequences like that.
      All companies will try to claim they can though because they want to and are hopeful.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >products themselves have laws and shit they have to follow
        products aren't legal person
        you can't sue a game
        also as posts above show you can waive almost all of your rights in usa in contract

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IT'S JOEVER

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Louis Rossman
      god i love that guy

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BLIZARD CAN SUCK MY DICK

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