Bought pic related. What am I in for? Is this thing gonna perform well on emulation with the more demanding stuff?

Bought pic related. What am I in for? Is this thing gonna perform well on emulation with the more demanding stuff?
Like Demons Souls or SotC (PS2)?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    return and get I7/12000k series

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      don't listen to this anon you literally don't need more than an i3.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        return it and get a 12400f or 12600

        retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The i3 12100 is an incredible processor dude, pair it with a rtx 3060/rx6600xt and you can max out everything at 1080p quite easy. Super cheap and runs on even the most potato of power supplies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >needing more than a core 2 duo

        ngmi

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine not using a Pentium 4 in the year of our lord 2022.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I7/12000k series
      those run hot.
      i5 12600k is good.
      that's what I got. very fast

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was going to buy it but i realized it had a big weakness so i bought a 5600x

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get yourself a Ryzen 5600X and spend more money on the GPU or wait for the next gen.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah just buy and end of life socket.
      5600x is a good chip but it would be retarded to buy right now. Although not as retarded as buying an 11600k

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >someone on Intel calling someone else a supporter of dead sockets
        >when we're going into the new wave of the GHz wars and Fermi 2.0 GPU power draw amidst energy price surges

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro every intel socket is a fucking dead socket. they deprecate them almost immediately.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What if I bought it for $140 tho?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Once we go into 2023 any CPU without 3D-VCache is going to become obsolete/legacy tech. My condolences.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3d-vcache isn't coming until 2024. Inb4 5800x it's a shitty buy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        retard. The 5800x3d is fucking insane and its not even 1st gen 3D Vcache. For example if you play WoW and go into extremely crowded WvW battles instead of getting 10-20fps you go into the 60-90. In Guild Wars 2 during world bosses I went from 15fps to 80. This shit is on a whole other level and any CPU that doesn't have it is legacy tech at this point.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's only good in certain situations. In some games the regular 5800x will out preform it. Then look at 12th gen intel which has 25% increase in single thread which is which most games still use and 13th gen expected to be another 25% increase. A 12600k will come close in gaming and destroy in any in any other senerio at a lower price. You are also not stuck on a end of life socket.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes but the 3D Cache guarantees that any game you play will be super smooth no matter how much of a clusterfuck it gets. Even in Cyberpunk it feels really good knowing you can increase the population density even with mods and have no fear of losing FPS whereas regular CPU's will start dipping under 30's.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I agree it is impressive. But I don't think we will really see the advantages of it until zen 5 comes out. The 5800x3d is just not powerfull enough to justify a buy right now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >5800X3D is insane!!!!!!
          >only in these 4 situations though
          >and only i games that nobody cares about
          >and only in an 18 year old game
          Fuck out of here shill.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you buy 11th gen when 13th gem is coming in a couple months?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong move, I can see already see 14th gen rumors coming up on the next few months

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but why would you buy 14th gen when 15th gen is right around the block

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well why every get anything? ever? When everything is going to be replaced with a newer model sooner or later....What a ridiculous thing to say

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're good if you got a good deal on that thing and didn't pay full retail for it.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buying intel

    Have you been living under a rock?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >buying amd
      i too was born in 95

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you realize that 12th gen shits on ryzen. idk why op bought 11th gen though

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        to be fair 12th gen intel should be competing with AM5 Ryzen chips, not AM4, since the 12th gen intel is a ddr5 platform already.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sent too early, but yeah it's no surprise that 12th gen chips beat 5000 series ryzen CPUs. I'm not feeling very confident that Intel will maintain that performance lead once AMD releases their 7000 series chips, although I do expect Intel to be the most efficient.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What am I in for?

    Crashes to desktop on any game made before 2012

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, I fucked up with somehow forgetting 12 gen existed. I was supposed to buy a 12600....was looking into it 5-6 months ago, and by this time I completely forgot what I wanted, relied on a google search that showed me I was looking into 11600K, and shit happened...
    I can't take it back, purchase was made with a loan plan thing.
    Fucking thing doesn't even come with a cooler, as a box. They realized that it warms up like a bitch I guess and decided to leave cooling to the user base. Retards.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're good, I'm still using an i5 9400F and every emulator I've tried has run well.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    intel bros...
    I KNEEL.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what use is there in having almost a extra 100 fps when you're already above 400

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        17% slower than Intel.
        Cope drone.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The first 1000 fps monitor is like $20,000.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOPPPPPPPPP
      WHY AREN'T YOY BENCHMAKING WORLD OF WARCRAFT RAIDS, YOU KNOW THAT 20 YEAR OLD GAME???????

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    12700 or 12700k? It looks like the K uses three times as much power for only 3% more performance?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you want to run xmp on your ram?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean like overclocking the ram? Does that even do anything?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Default 2133Mhz RAM vs a tuned 4133mhz CL15 I would argue cna be up to a 100% gain in FPS in CPU bound games. So yes, RAM matters.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds cool but why wouldn't I just buy a 4133 ram? Or just whatever has the highest number, I see up to 6500? I am all for CPU bound games so please do share your advice.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              RAM is more than just speeds. Latency is a factor as well. You need a good balance.
              Currently DDR5 is faster but much higher latency and cancles itself out in a lot of situations depending on how the game behaves.
              DDR5 is first generation so I would wait on that one.
              Also runs quite hot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So buy the one with the lowest latency and then charge it up with XMP, got it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or be a gigachad like me and don't upgrade. Anything above DDR3 is a scam just like changing sockets every generation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can get CL18 4400Mhz kits if I recall.
                Overclock and tune it to CL16 4000Mhz easily. Any higher and you will need to increase the voltage and better cooling.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does the K make a difference for that?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2022
    >still falling for the multi-core/threaded meme when 99.99% of applications cannot take advantage of more than 4 cores, and anything that takes more is just terribly designed and optimized and build from the ground up with spaghetti code.
    >single threaded performance barely improving

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought one of these too. How much did you spend?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      246€ including taxes and whatnot

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    due to the increasein government intervention and socialism, companies haven't been investing in r&d,
    chip technology is stagnating

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >due to the increasein government intervention and socialism
      Your first mistake was thinking that "socialism" is a thing. The second that governments aren't dictated to by lobby groups and corporations. Your third mistake was being born. You're that much of a clown, that I am willing to bet you fell for the free market meme, and in the process are ignoring how this "free" market is monopolised by giant companies that don't even pay tax.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My dick

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a 5600x one year ago.
    Rate my purchase considering i only use it for emulation and old games and i care about TDP.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i only use it for emulation
      you fucked up considering Intel is better for emulation.
      but if you're satisfied with your purchase then you did good.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Intel is better for emulation.
        Nyooooo~
        How much?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          depends on emulator. usually by at least ~20% though.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck my life. Ok. I upgraded from a 2500k. Will this last me 10 years?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              10 years meaning what? future emulators? probably not. 10 years of native games? yeah sure.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                when do you expect next gen emus to run commercial 3d games? that has to be at least 7 years already, right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >when do you expect next gen emus to run commercial 3d games?
                maybe around 2025-6 to start getting shit into a playable state. Depends entirely on who and how many people are working on the emulator.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For what exactly? Everything get ported to PC now anyways. What would you need to emulate? There's not going to be a demand for it so highly unlikely we will get anything.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gravity rush 2
                The last guardian

                Eh, nothing special. 11th gen is still pretty phoned in. 12th a good step, but since that's only with the DDR5 swap it's not enough. Intel loves to fuck up roadmaps so the next few could change, but as-is 13th looks pretty good... but that's not my team. 14th should be a monster. 15th I have no data and don't know if it's a 14 upgrade or something new, but 16 is a shit show right now and may or may not even get desktop parts. If 16 is terrible you can put *some* of the blame on me.

                Intel 12th gen supports ddr4

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am saying 12th is pretty good WITH DDR5. Without, eh, more incremental baby steps. So overall not enough meat to it, AMD will continue beating us. 13th looks nice, but I'm far from it. I'm right next to 14th and it's monstrous - really good (though by then AMD could pull a rabbit). 15th I have no data. 16th is under my nose and does not smell good right now. There's time to right the ship, but many details worry me anyway.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's complete bullshit. Intel can win in RPCS3 because of AVX-512 (if you use some hacks to enable it on Alder Lake) but otherwise AMD performs as expected for their performance level in other applications.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    11th gen runs hot 12th gen is faster while being lower tdp. Still a good chip though

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong board

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are too elite even in the sqg. Just can't ask stupid questions.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What am I in for?
    literally nothing. it's a fucking CPU, are you gonna encode stuff and rar stuff daily? If no then you're not in for anything you stupid gay fuck off

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he said he wanted to emulate games you fucking retard. PS3 emulation especially is extremely CPU intensive

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i only ever played DeS on ps3 emu.
        the ps3 just has no fucking games.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a you problem anon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Really not. I list every ps3 exclusive i liked but is not worth a replay or has a better version available or is boring without internet.
            WipeOut
            GT5
            Tekken Tag 2
            Id consider NG Sigma 2 if i hadnt played trough it on Master Ninja including online missions. Thats enough NG Sigma 2 for a lifetime.
            I just thought of 3D Dot Game Heroes. That would be worth a replay but id rather play Okami instead.
            What am i missing?

            For what exactly? Everything get ported to PC now anyways. What would you need to emulate? There's not going to be a demand for it so highly unlikely we will get anything.

            Good point. Unconditional Bloodborne, i guess.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ??? you can run demons souls 4k120 on a ryzen 3600 lol

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >11th gen when 12600k is only 250

    jesus christ bro wake up

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    trash it and buy a Ryzen instead

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eh, nothing special. 11th gen is still pretty phoned in. 12th a good step, but since that's only with the DDR5 swap it's not enough. Intel loves to fuck up roadmaps so the next few could change, but as-is 13th looks pretty good... but that's not my team. 14th should be a monster. 15th I have no data and don't know if it's a 14 upgrade or something new, but 16 is a shit show right now and may or may not even get desktop parts. If 16 is terrible you can put *some* of the blame on me.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >14nm in current year
    LMFAO
    Do incelfags really?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why should I care about the manufacturing process? In what way does it affect me?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In literally every way? Faster, more energy efficient, and less heat.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is that why Intel chips outperform amd's? Oh wait. Maybe the correlation isn't that linear.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >smaller node
            >more cache
            >still slower
            KEK see [...]

            The actual marketing term used is irrelevant you dummies. Smaller is still better.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yet you can't explain why it matters for the end consumer because you're just another mouthbreather regurgitating marketing terms.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What so you think you are arguing, exactly? That transistor density isn't actually increasing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Big tard over here. They're trying to educate you. "Smaller node" as measured by what feature, gate length? Does that account for 3D stacking? Which process results in higher density is not "which one has the smaller number" and even if it *we're* that'll only tell you which is better if all else is equal. A chip with 2x the transistors but slightly higher density will run circles around the "smaller therefore better" one in every measure but power draw. There are way more factors that go into performance than ANY single number would let you predict.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I'm a shitty phoneposter and I got autocorrected, sue me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, but the question was

                Why should I care about the manufacturing process? In what way does it affect me?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Try to follow the conversation.
                "Small node good!"
                "But why?"
                "Because more efficient"
                "You sure?"
                "Transistor density! Science! Obviously me right!"
                >me "no, transistor density *not* sole factor, it all unravels and node alone means little"
                I am on the side saying manufacturing process DOESN'T (necessarily) mean anything to the end user, or anybody for that matter.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now explain how 11th gen is superior to 12 gen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not, and nobody implied it was. You ESL? Having trouble understanding things here?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a doofus who tries to correct people even when you don't actually disagree with them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >smaller node
          >more cache
          >still slower
          KEK see

          intel bros...
          I KNEEL.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >more energy efficient, and less heat.
          Maybe but every company seems happy to pump more wattage into these chips nowadays to try and have the fastest product.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is a 12600k good?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At what price and for what purpose?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just gaming
        i think i got it for $350 cad

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It won't be the bottleneck. You could probably get away with less but it should last you some time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you pairing it with ddr4 ram? Just out of curiosity

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ddr5
        the mobo i got was ddr5 only and i didnt know

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got one the other day. Works pretty well.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When AMD is finally stable and has no issues, I will use them (if they are the better choice at time of purchase), or recommend them.
    It's been decades and they still can't fix shit. It's why Intel is just better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ryzen series are the best amd has been since the athlon x2/phenom era anon. Probably their best cpus ever in fact.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >audio crackling
        >scheduler issues in both Win10 and Win11
        >AGESA updates hit or miss
        And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
        I don't want to be troubleshooting for days.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you get an 11600 when you could get 12 series instead?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Waiting patiently for ddr5 ram to no longer become a meme. Then maybe i'll consider a new build.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What correlates 100% with emulating anything is single thread performance.
    Aka thread mark in my pic.
    I'll upgrade as well but I'll go with AMD 7000 series on a cheap am5 board and cpu I'll buy a more expensive one towards the end of the generation.
    I'm upgrading from an 4770k so that's massive for me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wanted to put the i7's in the image fuck lol.
      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone rate my setup? Good for another three years? What should I upgrade in order of importance/ more bang for my buck.

    RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit

    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz

    G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't waste money right now.
      Wait until generational leaps, meteor lake maybe and the AMD responses. But even that might not be worth it for you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3600 will be good for a while. Your next upgrade should be gpu when something stops running well for you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ryzen 3600
      Obsolete at launch

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brainlet

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cope.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just buy a 1600x and spend the rest on a gpu anon. I honestly wouldn't even buy anything above a 2600x at this point.
    As for gpu i would recomment a 750ti.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >11th gen
    good luck kid

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    12400F is 150 on newegg

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    11th GEN intel is a fucking scam, just stick with AMD since you have no clue wtf you are buying.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ryzen
      kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >rocket lake
        quadruple kek

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >poorfag cope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >m-muh power

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >power draw
          Okay? I prefer more performance.. Can't get that if my CPU is cucked by how much power it can draw.
          KthxXya

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except... you know... both 12th gen and Ryzen 5000 perform better with less power draw...

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >11th gen
              Why are you talking about 11th gen? It's a forgetable generation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1. OP bought 11th gen.
                2. The image shows an 11700K.

                Please read the thread before posting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah bro
                Op is dumb dumb then unless he got an insane deal.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's right retard, go for 12h or stick with ryzen 5600x

        even 12th i3 is better than 11th i5

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was emulating DeS years ago on my 4590 before the emulator even had its performance breakthrough.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bought a i7 12700k
    >the store accidentally sent me a i9 12900k instead
    Bros...it's over

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RIP

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sell it and buy the part you can actually use if your pc can't handle powering or cooling that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >set power limits to match the 12700k in the bios
        >be at worst equal in all tasks and faster when the extra cache comes in handy

        Yeah, but sure go make retarded decisions and take less performance because you don't know how to run a computer.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still use a 4690k with an automatic overclock

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    which CPU doesn’t spy on me? doesn’t amd have its own version of intel ME?

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