Can someone explain to me why millennials hate this console so much? What specifically is it they find so offensive about it? Its games are primitive but still fun. And when you know how the underlying hardware works many of them become legitimately impressive in their own right.
I blame the weird rectangular playfield pixels. They're sort of grotesque compared to even a monochrome dot matrix.
I'm a millennial, I don't hate it. I just think the Atari 8-bit is better. In fact, the Atari 7800 is extremely underrated.
Generational generalizations are fucking stupid and this one is particularly absurd. Our parents were boomers/early x, many of us grew up with one of these in the house somewhere or had our parents reminiscing over it. I’m in my 30s now and I definitely played Atari growing up.
I don’t think anyone in their life has thought to themselves “why do millennials hate Atari” except you because it’s sincerely an absurd thought.
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I'm a millennial and I like the Atari 2600, but unlike most millennials, my first console was the Intellivision, so that generation of game consoles wasn't foreign to me growing up.
Golden age arcade games are great, many of them are still worth playing. But people are kidding themselves to defend these types of home versions, solely because they are the first of their kind. I can't see any reason to like Atari 2600, beyond a meagre "there was nothing better, at homes, at the time". Which really is a back-handed compliment. There's really no reason you should be obligated to think like this - The important games are on arcade; Atari home ports are the unpleasant curiosities. For some reason, people just can't accept that the technology wasn't good enough yet. By the early 80's, the 2600 was pathetically old technology-wise, and just could not keep up. The fact that audiences mass-rejected Atari by the early 80's was simply the market correcting itself, and saying "we need new better machines now". The best thing that 2600 really has as a bargaining chip is the fact that it basically led to better machines, and how dare I not respect these ancient mediocre ports.
>you're a nintendie
The free market proved they made a better machine.
>you're a zoomer
Yeah, I'm not middle-aged, so what?
>you've never played any early 80s games, stop roleplaying
I've played more games from the 70's and early 80's than most people who post here. I also have relatives that owned the 1st and 2nd gen consoles in their heyday.
Why do zoomers hate keeping their penises attached to their bodies? Does it have something to do with not playing enough M*A*S*H on Atari?
>many people are kidding themselves to defend these types of home versions
Okay, and, what does that have to do with Atari?
>But people are kidding themselves to defend these types of home versions, solely because they are the first of their kind.
????
>I can't see any reason to like Atari 2600, beyond a meagre "there was nothing better, at homes, at the time". Which really is a back-handed compliment.
Pitfall, River Raid, Atlantis, Adventure, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Yars' Revenge, Kaboom, Dragster, Demon Attack, Haunted House, Megamania, Cosmic Ark and SwordQuest were all console exclusives. A number of those, namely Adventure, Cosmic Ark and SwordQuest were Atari 2600 exclusives.
>The fact that audiences mass-rejected Atari by the early 80's was simply the market correcting itself, and saying "we need new better machines now"
The Atari 8-bit sold better than the Apple II during its initial lifecycle (Apple II would go on to sell more in the long run) and also sold more units than the IBM PC, so no, you're wrong. Maybe home consoles they rejected, sure, but Atari as a brand was still well and good.
>The free market proved they made a better machine.
Kinda like the "free market" decided the PS1 and PS2 were better than the N64 and Gamecube? The "free market" didn't decide anything because when the NES released in 1985 in North America, there was next to no competition other than the Master System, compared to the Atari having to compete with 7 other systems, including a system that was basically just an upgrade of the 2600.
I think you don't understand a single thing you're saying. Yes, the golden age of arcades lent themselves to getting massive ports to home consoles, but all of these consoles had original titles that weren't ports, and even console exclusives, and a lot of them were really good. Pitfall was arguably more influential than most of the video games released in arcades at the time.
>We have video games at home
Atari 2600 was the original "at home" meme
Large pixels have large sharp edges. They hurt the zoomers eyes.
There's a weird culture on this board. Early cave paintings are technically primitive, but we are in awe as we realise that this was human beings discovering new territory, and we can also see aesthetic merit in its own right. This respect and entering into the mindset of the time is assumed by all educated people as they reflect on the history of any human endeavour.
Except for zoomers on this board, who seem to be incredible morons, who take pleasure in ignorance.
It's programming.
Those games were programmed.
Millennials don't hate the 2600 they are just not interested in it
Largely true, but any pre-NES consoles are actively shat on on this board, though it may be by a small number of individuals.
That's how it is for any system that doesn't fit in their specific niche of things they like. Used to be that they just ignored the thread with the thing they don't care for. Time is a flat circle, so we've probably just arrived at the "cool to hate" subculture again
Because Atari is irrelevant in modern age. If that were a nintendo console kids would go like wow cool.
I never had a 2600 growing up but playing it is incredibly refreshing in some ways. It’s straight to the game, no bullshit. It’s pick up and put down short burst type gameplay. I almost thought something like that would appeal more to adhd riddled zoomers but surprisingly it doesn’t. Now factor in the still thriving homebrew scene and there’s so much cool shit for Atari consoles in general imo. Well maybe not the jag, but the rest yeah.
>joysticks that break after a weeks use
its this
it's because it looks like some kind of 1970s masturbation device where the console controls the vibration mode and the joystick goes in the vagine or buttox
just think of how pre-beatles music was perceived for many years. its "irrelevant" because the generation that grew up with the former became the shills and marketers. and kids lap that shit up like day old poodles. gaming starts in 85..because its what you were told regardless of objective fact.
>Its games are primitive but still fun.
disagreed, the only vidya from the pre-nes era that is still worth playing is some arcade games. the only thing the 2600 (or any console from that era) has going for it is nostalgia, which you can get your fix of through youtube.
>the only vidya from the pre-nes era that is still worth playing is some arcade games
arcade ports make up 95% of the 2600’s library
not really. a lot of the best games are originals.
>star raiders
>adventure
>river raid
>superman
>dragonstomper
>keystone kapers
>yars revenge
>hero
>pitfall 1 and 2
Here's the answer OP. It's not by a particular company, and fans of that particular company, largely millennials, refuse to touch or speak highly of anything not made by that specific company.
Atari is no longer [current brand] and there are no popular bugeyed talking heads on screens to tell them it is [trendy counterculture], so it doesn't exist
Except who gives a fuck, this thread is gay and tranny janny should clean it up instead of the real threads he keeps deleting
It has nothing to do with the company. I simply don't give a shit about consoles made before the third generation. 70s/early 80s arcade games? Love them. 70s/early 80s console games? Lame as shit
You've barely delved into video games pre-1985.
i'll just start the flame war by saying it - hatred of atari stemmed mostly from the perception of scamware or shovelware that the NES was allegedly free from, even if anyone with a pair of functioning eyeballs can tell you that seal of quality sure as fuck wasn't doing anything to stop 99% of the NES library being utter garbage
marketing does wondrous things to the brain, yes.
I'm not a graphics fag but Atari games were just fucking ugly, I would see my older sister play her 2600 and think "YIKES, what is this TRASH?" as a kid. The NES was the first home console that had games that were actually nice to look at
I'll also add that the games sounded like ass as well, most with no music whatsoever, those screeching bleep and bloop sound effects, meanwhile the NES had a soundchip that is still nice to listen to even today
Nintendo proved that videogames need stories and endings to be truly good and memorable. Most of those endless arcade and Atari "games" were really just digital toys and there's a reason nobody gives a fuck about high scores in gaming today
>Most of those endless arcade and Atari "games" were really just digital toys
All video games are digital toys you fucking retard. you think Mario 1 was a work of high art?
adventure had a story you dipshit. RTFM.
opening up the board past dreamcast was the final nail in the coffin.
So this board is just perma filtered by Atari now after years of Gankerfugees huh
This website started in 2002. The people who grew up playing the Atari were already in their thirties by that point and they're not going to represent a huge block of posters on a fucking imageboard. I haven't posted on /vr/ since its founding or anything, but I sincerely doubt there were that many Atari fans at any point in this board's history.
the boomers are in captivity on atari age.
I forgot how you can only like things you grew up with lol
I forgot how retards can make shit up that you didn't actually say in your post and act like it's some gotcha moment lol
I grew up on the Atari 2600 because my brother was into retro gaming back in the 90s.
Yeah, it's got some fun games. Just sit around the TV with your friends, chilling and playing Atari
It's pretty good for get togethers too. It's surprisingly fun to just screw around in the many 2 player games when you have a buddy over.
It may blow your mind since the 90s was before your time but people were still playing consoles from the 80s then.
No idea why anyone hates this system. I'm a millennial and the older people I've talked video games with exclusively remember it fondly. I also have yet to talk to a peer who expresses hatred for the system. Look at console gaming before the 2600, it was pure dogshit. The 2600 at least attempted in good faith to recreate the games seen in the arcade. Everything prior was pong clones and shovelware consoles with a dozen games or less.
Only activision made good games for Atari 2600.
Wrong.
I'm gonna get called out on this and I kind of get it, but for me I really struggle with the graphics. For me there is a line, where something just looks absolutely terrible, I can just about stomach the NES but I still think it looks ass, 16-bit era was honestly where I feel games looked "good".
For what it's worth, I also hated the PS1 for this reason, I think in many respects the move to 3D looked way worse than the 16-bit pixel art style of games. It wasn't until the PS2 generation that 3D overtook the old pixel art style of the 16-bit generation.
I play games to explore worlds mainly, I'm a "creative" type, so graphics are really important to me.
I just wanna add that not all Ps2-gen games looked better than 16-bit pixel art. I shouldn't have said that it "overtook" it.
I just love detailed pixel art games honestly.
And before someone says "use your imagination", I DO. I do that when I read books, I paint a picture in my head. I don't want to paint a picture from a bunch of atari pixels, if I'm gonna use my imagination then I just daydream or read a good piece of fiction. I want games to look good.
You're a homosexual. NES has the best worlds. Good graphics not required. Please disappear yourself.
I'm a millennial and I'm apathetic to the Atari mostly because I was fucking three when I last played a genuine console and most of my early childhood memories are of the NES the rest are for the genesis. When I try to play the games of the 2600 or even the 7800 now they are just too simplistic and short to keep my attention. The system was designed for Gen X and is a product of its time, I don't hate the Atari its just before my time
>nes generation
I remember Atari 2600 as "poor kid games" and that's how it was being marketed at the time.
There was a other Atari thread, but it was archived.
So I'll post here. Because this is a system that has been widely misunderstood and maligned and we're gonna talk about that.
But first,
Appreciate this perfectly competent port of Mario Bros.
Lots to say about it. Perfectly enjoyable.
Of course it's not to everyone else taste.
Nothing ever is.
Reflect and consider this perfectly competent port of Mario Bros. On the Atari 2600.
Millennials don't hate it.
I reject your premise.
Not a millennial, I'm a zoomer and I love the 2600. As a matter of fact, I've probably played more Atari 2600 than any other system right now.
Both this and the image are maybe the most based things I've read all week, if not all month. Stay boogying.
Because the 7800 was better in every way.
I like the 2600 port of space invaders
You're wrong
It really wasn’t. 5200/8-bit family was though.
Meant for
Imagine never having a computer in your home. Your friend calls you all excited saying he's got Pacman at his house. You've played it at cocktail tables and anywhere else you were tall enough to reach the controls. You drop the phone and run eight houses down. You knock on the door, but can barely contain your excitement and let yourself. As you fast walk to the game room CLANK. ??? CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK. You walk in with a beaming smile still on your face and turn to look at the TV. CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK. What (the hell) is this? "It's Pacman" he says.
it might look dumb and ugly
but its still fun
>What specifically is it they find so offensive about it? Its games are primitive but still fun.
For most people NES is about the cutoff point, other than a few exceptions here and there like space invaders, breakout, maybe a tiger-like lcd game, and that sort of thing once in a blue moon. There are so many good NES games it seems almost impossible there will be atari games that have something good in its own right and many of the games had major problems.
>And when you know how the underlying hardware works many of them become legitimately impressive in their own right.
Cool but what good is that to the person playing it? That's more a computer nostalgia/discussion type of thing.
There used to often be 3nd gen threads kicking around here in the past but once sixth gen was allowed a ton of new people and games came. Atari enjoyers are also getting on in age, I'm sure you could find another forum that talks about them.
>Atari enjoyers are also getting on in age
I’m 23. For some reason it’s just pudgy 30 year olds who grew up playing N64 that hate Atari.
there isn't a single 2600 game that has the substance, depth, or narrative of even a modern pinball table
>dragonstomper
have you ever played a 2600 game or
American Speccy.
Why do zoomies hate NES? Way better than this piece of shit or anything since but this board hates it.
I like Atari’s arcade games, but never cared for their home consoles. Anybody else feel this way?
>Why do zoomies hate NES? Way better than this piece of shit or anything since but this board hates it.
JANNIES delete this bully thread please
Mkpyn
I don't hate the 2600, I just find it too primitive to get much entertainment out of playing with one. Same goes for pretty much every other pre-3rd gen console and game out there.
t. millenial