Can you do disability representation well in a fantasy setting?

Can you do disability representation well in a fantasy setting?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    sage

    you already made this thread yesterday troony

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We're going to do it again tomorrow, too! And the next day, and the day after that. It'll keep getting reposted around the clock until it stops getting replies or until OP finds a new social media screencap that incites even more rage or prays upon your insecurities better.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying this shit isn't a bot and he gets "tired"

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PROMPTERS ARE MENTALLY DISABLED

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it's really not that difficult. Toph in Avatar is a great example.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it only works because toph is a cute girl, actually every cripple in fantasy should be a cute girl. I could accept that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon you just want a woman who is physically dependent on you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I want to carry cute girls around and throw them out of window if needed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They won't be cute for much longer if you keep that up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes because blind people irl have echolocation on par with fricking daredevil lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What part of "fantasy setting" did you not understand

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fantasy setting
        Reading comprehension is a lost art

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Earthbenders in avatar can manipulate dirt and rocks in all ways possible.
        >Crippled people in real life, ones that aren't pathetic at least, adapt to their lack of senses. Sure, not daredevil tier, but they still work around their disabilities in their own ways, basically, using the most powerful trait of any creature, especially humans - Ability to adapt.
        >Toph is a blind cripple that uses her earthbending abilities to see, which shows a crippled person adapting and using talents they have to overcome their disability, instead of just "living with it" like some moronic fatalist.
        I don't even like Avatar but you need to be crippled in the brain to not understand such a simple concept and think it's all about the surface-level supersenses shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          also she's a prodigy at earthbending and got taught the skill by the physical embodiments of earthbending

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a cool way to address a disability. She's also the best earthbender in the fricking world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cripples with magic powers aren't realistic and

      But why not use magic to fix your legs

      made redundant

      Cripples are burdens kept indoors or worse

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cripples with magic powers aren't realistic
        What magic powers are realistic?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The one the "elite" uses to stay in power.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's a great example because they showed both her worth and faults because of her blindness.
      Hell, her being blind is why Appa was captured to begin with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not to mention the same episode that showed her form of earthbending and echolocation having a massive advantage over other earthbenders also showed her having a massive disadvantage against airbending

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    definitely

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This fricker is so interesting to me, I never really played Morrowind but was super intrigued by the Dwemer shit in Skyrim. I want fricking answers damn it and anything from 6 I’m already writing off as non cannon in my head since the lore writer left

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Morrowind explains everything. Dagoth Ur literally explains the moments leading up to the Dwemer vanishing and how.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I want answers
        Tough luck, dumbass. Todd will never allow it, by his own admission, since part of what makes dwemer unique is the fact that we know jack and shit about them.
        TESO once wanted to do a time travel dwemer DLC or something like that, to which Todd personally shat fury all over them until they changed their mind.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's literally a quest in Morrowind to solve the mystery of the Dwemer. Everything post-Morrowind is the writers pretending that never happened because lorebeards are really fixated on Dwemer wank.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's literally a quest in Morrowind to solve the mystery of the Dwemer
          All you learn is that Kagrenac used his tools and the dwemer vanished. It's hardly a complete answer as to "what happened".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They died, there are ghosts, you can even talk to one who specifically tells you that he's dead.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The dwemer ghosts are absolutely not explained in Morrowind my dude.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fallout 1/2 moron runs

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mage in a wheelchair is perfectly acceptable
    A ROGUE in a goddamn wheelchair has a lot of fricking explaining to do

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A mage should have a flying carpet or something exotic. A wheelchair is boring as hell.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A mage could do any number of things cooler than a wheelchair.
        Flying carpet, floating platform, golem legs, artificial legs, straight levitation, teleportation, mage hand, etc.
        All these things are cooler ways to handle a wizard with no legs than "uhhhh wheelchair!"

        >flying carpet
        You've got tens of thousands of GP lying around while you're level 2?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's more reasonable for a level 2 adventurer to have 10k GP than for your medieval setting to have pre industrial levels of technology but only for wheelchairs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Tensor's floating disk
          >Skeleton Palanquin
          >Barbarian with a chair strapped to his back
          >Animal companion wearing a custom saddle you strap into
          There's tons of options that are more appropriate than a 21st century wheelchair. The price it would cost to get a custom gnome made wheelchair, made of either mithril or darkwood so it's light and sturdy enough for adventuring means you'd be better off just spending that money on the flying carpet, because the wheelchair probably costs just as much to make.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Master/Blaster style is the most d&d appropriate way to do so. Cheap too. Just have some person hired.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Royal Medicare system provided him one

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you insist that there is literally NO WAY for the character to move around other than a modern wheelchair but made from wood then sure, have muh representation, but then don't get mad when he can't do anything in a non wheelchair accessible setting such as dungeons or anywhere without paved streets. The benefit of a fantasy setting is solving these shortcomings in imaginative ways, but these narcissists just want to play as literally themselves because they have zero imagination or empathy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but then don't get mad when he can't do anything in a non wheelchair accessible setting such as dungeons or anywhere without paved street
            The people who play disabled characters want exactly that, and you're too drunk off the juice of ragebaiters if you ever thought otherwise
            > but these narcissists just want to play as literally themselves
            Case in point

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The people who play disabled characters want exactly that
              No they don't. Stop being disingenuous. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you're just dishonest instead of an ignorant moron.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You've got tens of thousands of GP lying around while you're level 2?
          You don't? Don't tell me you start your games as peasants.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you take the meaning of rogue as spy or con artist then it's perfectly fine. It might even be easier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The low agi rogue isn't a thing
      Unsuspecting cripple with lightning hands should be a thing
      James Bond had 3 blind dudes as assassins for instance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any mage worth his salt would fix his cripple body using magic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        See

        I think wheelchairs are the kind of device that could believably pass off as something existing in a more medieval fantasy setting, maybe not something commonplace where every village beggar has one, but I could see it as the kind of object a minor court mage or monastery monk could have. It doesn't break believability for me in the same way that a 2021 BMW 5 Series 530i with optional heated seating would, which is something blatantly hyper-specific to modern society.

        [...]
        Maybe it's me, I think flying carpets are the boring ones and just don't work outside of middle eastern desert mystic types. I think ultimately I don't see a mage in a wheelchair as that different from a mage carrying a walking cane, both cane and wheelchair serve to give the impression of feebleness that then gets subverted when said mage shows off their massive magical power or something.

        >both cane and wheelchair serve to give the impression of feebleness that then gets subverted when said mage shows off their massive magical power or something.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get caught pickpocketing
      >get kneecaps busted
      It's called environmental storytelling

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a mage in a MAGICAL FLYING DEVICE that not only negates the disability but provides advantage to mobility, makes sense. a mage in a fricking modern wheelchair makes zero sense in a fantasy setting. Same as sci-fi. Why would cripples exist in a future where the tech to cure them exists? if they're staying cripple voluntarily then they deserve no sympathy and any "representation" of this attitude is going to be received negatively.

      definitely

      Yagrum Bagarn makes sense. He has no magical abilities. He's just a fat diseased dude bloated from corprus, and the only reason he even has fancy mech legs because he used to be a dwemer master craftsman.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI slop

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But why not use magic to fix your legs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It stems from some ancient curse or strong magical affliction

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, like you can't come up with something more imaginative or internally consistent then ye ol' wheelchair? At least put some fricking effort into your disability representation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes you just keep it for the aesthetics.
      Like a warrior covered in scars when a healer could have gotten rid of those easily.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because being blind and cutting down enemies or missing an arm and replacing it with a minigun or just outright cutting down enemies with one arm is cool. Stop being such a geek.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gatling arms and blind swordsmen are cool. Wheelchair wizards are not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on if the wheelchair was conjured up with their own magic and has mana based missiles, lightning arm whips, and a final gambit that uses up all of the sorcerers mana, but casts a massive AOE time stop spell which their friends are immune to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But then it wouldn't be a wheelchair it would be some magic vehicle that is the magnum opus of an epic level artificer.
            The people in the OP want mundane level 1 adventurers in postindustrial wheelchairs as a common thing with no valid explanation.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That’s why the wheelchair should be an extension of their own mana instead of something that’s built for them. Like a summon. If you see a basic disabled mage in a normal chair, you know that their magic is lame, but if you see a mage in a decked out wheelchair that’s capable of soloing dungeons and massive waves of mobs on their own, then you know they’re serious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cause this homie will come and keep breaking your legs till you accept it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With an ass like that the only thing that gay little twink is breaking is muh dick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what sword is that

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Father Johnathan's Holy Blade

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Judge Sword

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Marche was always based and I'm tired of pretending he's not

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is the handle of his sword also a blade?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a ceremonial sword

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because a wizard cast "Curse of broken legs" and they have to find a way to undo it. It's an entire character arc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Alright, where are we going next, lads?"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok. You picked the wheelchair as your means of transportation. I sure hope you'll find the cure in the city, along the main streets and preferably indoors.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they are munchies who want asspats

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In some settings, magic sucks at fixing permanent complications. It can patch up a severed jugular but a severed nerve cluster is fricking gone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In some settings, magic sucks at fixing permanent complications. It can patch up a severed jugular but a severed nerve cluster is fricking gone.
        it would be really cool if your character in a wheelchair could temporarily channel magic to make their legs work, but they had to sustain the cast throughout the battle. Maybe some older master rogue or assassin that lost the ability to use their legs found a clever workaround either by themselves or with the help of a mage companion. Would be infinitely more creative than "rogue fighting in wheelchair"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did. The chair is just comfy and convenient

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Her magic is not strong enough and doesn't have enough money to pay an arch-wizard to fix them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Arch-wizard
        Any regular cleric in your generic rural church could heal a cripple for pennies, or even for free, depending on the church in question.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My setting doesn't have cvcked slave morality religions. Frick your angels.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Any regular cleric in your generic rural church could heal a cripple for pennies, or even for free, depending on the church in question.
          That's not even true in fricking D&D.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No it's not, there's only 3 spells in the system explicitly capable of fixing that kind of permanent damage (Regeneration, Divine Intervention, Wish). Regeneration is the easiest to get and it's still a level 7 spell that costs 5k qp to buy as a service.

              You ain't getting that spell cast by a cleric either, you're gonna need to find an Archbishop or something because anyone high enough level to cast Regeneration is gonna be a continent-renowned divine caster.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure nerve damage can be fixed with simpler spells.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, not really. People love to quote Restoration healing Paralysis, but it's obviously referring to the temporary status effects that're caused by spells/poisons and shit, not actual permanent nerve damage.

                If you're not rich as frick you ain't gonna be swimming in the kind of money or social influence to get a Church top dog to take time out of his day to heal you specifically.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not at first, but after enough adventuring they might, which is an interesting character moment
                say you succeed in saving the princess and as a token of gratitude the king gives you access to his personal physician

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah, I ain't got no problem with that.
                I just got beef with people whining about magic not fixing everything when 99% of the time a fantasy setting either doesn't have that kind of magic or access to it is so limited objectively impossible to remove cripplehood.

                We have the rough numbers for an average D&D setting's population distribution by level and you'll generally only have a few hundred people of each class in the whole world who are level 13+. A few hundred level 13+ clerics could go around casting Regen every day with every viable spell slot they have and it'll barely make a dent in the cripple demographic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and that's D&D which is explicitly already a high magic setting
                fixing a broken spine in something like LotR would be either flat out impossible or would require a direct boon from someone like Galadriel herself and a rare one at that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it explicitly cannot, D&D has been very clear about fixing nerve damage being equivalent to reattaching a limb

                Well, shit. Frick it. I'm paying the quack in the back alley that's totally not a necromancer to fix it then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it explicitly cannot, D&D has been very clear about fixing nerve damage being equivalent to reattaching a limb

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. Regenerate is the weakest, and it's a 7th level spell necessitating a 13th level cleric. You'd need to make a pilgrimage to the high church of your chosen faith to hope to meet one of those, and then get in line with all the other cripples to see which lucky fellow gets blessed today.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lesser Restoration can remove the paralyzed condition.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "I have no legs" is not the paralyzed condition.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody said the guy didn't have legs. They just don't work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody said anything about the problem at hand. The character involved is a cripple, and there's a dozen ways to be crippled.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then people with muscles issues could be healed by simple spells. As long as your nerves are find and your legs are there, low level magic should heal the cripple.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And that's fine. But if your legs were torn off by a dire wolf, you're still a cripple. Not all forms of crippling are equal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just because magic can heal muscles doesn't mean it can heal nerve damage
                I mean, IRL we're pretty damn good at healing muscle damage and we're still fricked when it comes to nerve damage

                say healing magic works by accelerating natural processes, then it's pretty good at healing flesh wounds but you'd need some deity level magic for nerve damage because nerves don't have natural healing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nerves don't have natural healing
                They don't? You learn something new everyday.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Medical shows are usually slop, but I definitely rec giving at least one a skim some day. It immediately opens up your mind to the millions of ways our bodies can go full moron and how we're both a lot tougher and more fragile than the layman expects.

                It will irrevocably frick your suspension of disbelief in regards to "healing magic" too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there's a reason why we can fairly easily attach fingers, but doing so while giving you function again of said finger is almost impossible
                it's also why people want to do much more research into stem-cells and why it's moronic luddites block research into it

                since stem-cells can become nerve cells this lets you in effect create new cells to patch 2 severed nerves together

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lesser Restoration can remove the paralyzed condition.

                Nope, not really. People love to quote Restoration healing Paralysis, but it's obviously referring to the temporary status effects that're caused by spells/poisons and shit, not actual permanent nerve damage.

                If you're not rich as frick you ain't gonna be swimming in the kind of money or social influence to get a Church top dog to take time out of his day to heal you specifically.

                >People love to quote Restoration healing Paralysis
                time is a circle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fix
      Insinuating something is wrong with being wheelchair-kin, anon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, your legs don't work.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not very inclusive of you, anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not the one who broke that wheelyhomies spine, all I'm saying is every dungeon I've ever been in has had stairs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because that's unrealistic! Now get in this wheelchair in a setting that's based on 12th century England!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because then you would be erasing the entire personality of the character, which was sitting on a mobile chair.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >throwing fireballs means you can fix legs

      No

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes
        If you can control fire that means you control heat and energy you can 100% make yourself fricking fly
        Or make some stone legs and move them with magic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then how come necromancers reanimate corpses in worst conditions just fine? Did you know you can use necromancy to heal as well?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What? You're arguing in my favor
            I think wheelchairs in magical settings make no sense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. also why not use something magical and vetter than wheelchair if magick cannot fix legs? i doubt most actual cripppes playing fantasy games want representation. they want escapism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        normally yes, but there are cripples who make their crippledness a core facet of their identity because they're fricking boring.

        the type of person who, if they weren't crippled, would make their whole personality their zodiac sign or sexuality or be a vegan or some shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        normally yes, but there are cripples who make their crippledness a core facet of their identity because they're fricking boring.

        the type of person who, if they weren't crippled, would make their whole personality their zodiac sign or sexuality or be a vegan or some shit.

        Whenever you hear >muh representation, think WOMAN. Because this kind of thing is pure female actions. Men don't typically want to be represented, especially in an escaptist thing like rpg's, because men can identify with anything besides women, whether it be white, black, blue, alien monster, robot, or whatever (>he's literally me frfr). Women, however, need to see *themselves* in a thing (often just usually a bit - not too much - better).
        Self-inserting is a female behavior (and particularly moronic males, such as autists). And they can't self-insert unless they see themselves in it. So all this kind of stuff is just female projection.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you, those wheelchairs only have advantages, zero disadvantages, because we gotta be inclusive and shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A friend of mine actually explained to me once that, in Dungeons & Dragons, the chair literally cures all kinds of ailments including mental disorders and disabilities, but they all come right back as soon as you get out of the chair.

        So in essence, there is clerical magic in Dungeons & Dragons that can literally cure any crippling disease, or you can be completely dependent on a chair for the rest of your life.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just like troons actually want to have troon features in games, it's all about an aesthetic and brainwashing people into consumer bots.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off, George Washington could've won the Independence war without the Dodge Challenger.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >character is so old their legs starts to degenerate
    >mermaid wanting to travel on land but shapeshifting spells are unreliable

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. It already exists.
    >Blind swordsmen/psychics
    >Fighters with swords/guns/maces for hands or legs
    >Blind warriors that use enhanced senses to fight
    >Disabled with telekinetic powers who use their minds to give themselves limbs
    And so on and so on

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You VILL sit in ze chair and veel around our fantastical world of accessible whimsy !

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, just make it so that the one who is a cripple is able to sue whoever doesn't make their tavern, dungeon, etc. with cripple access

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pic
      nah that's based, if only more civillians held corporations accountable the worldn't wouldn't be so fricked up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they were against small businesses that couldnt afford to put in a ramp so they would just settle for money

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          small businesses are just big businesses that haven't been able to exploit their way to the top lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i should exploit the ones who don;t exploit hard enough so that i can get exploited even harder by the big boys
            jesus christ

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're delusional if you think anyone makes it by being customer friendly and not exploitative

              be it dropshipping, exploitation, wagetheft, revenge management, whatever, every company is fricked and small businesses are usually even worse, the ones that will fire someone for taking the day off when their brother dies and then write "no one wants to work" and close up for the day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What does it mean to gain the whole world but lose your soul?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wouldn't know i'm not israeli

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they were against small businesses that couldnt afford to put in a ramp so they would just settle for money
          That doesn't even make any sense, settling out of court would be dozens of times more expensive than installing a basic-ass ramp.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >there are blind people and disabled people in fantasy games already
    Why do people make such a big deal out of non issues like this???

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can accept disabled characters so long as their disability and its effects are consistent with the logic of the setting. However modern style 4 wheeled wheelchairs were not invented until the mid-1800s, so your fantasy setting shouldn't have them. If you want a character in a wheelchair in a medieval fantasy setting, it would only make sense if it was a janky wood contraption that was extremely difficult to operate without assistance and the owner had a reasonable explanation of how it was obtained.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >were not invented until the mid-1800s
      As if that stopped anyone. Balloon travel and later propelled balloons weren't a thing until the late 1700s and early-mid 1800s, but the propeller airship is a staple of the fantasy genre for long-distance travel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Balloon airships tend to be in industrial or pre-industrial settings. So, mid 1800s or later.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Balloon airships tend to be in industrial or pre-industrial settings
          You really should play more fantasy games, my dude

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, you should.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Name with airships 3 that aren't final fantasy

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              1. Final Fantasy
              2. Magicka
              3. The Fortnite Battle Bus

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              not him but
              Tales of Destiny
              Ace Combat 3
              Fallout 4

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think wheelchairs are the kind of device that could believably pass off as something existing in a more medieval fantasy setting, maybe not something commonplace where every village beggar has one, but I could see it as the kind of object a minor court mage or monastery monk could have. It doesn't break believability for me in the same way that a 2021 BMW 5 Series 530i with optional heated seating would, which is something blatantly hyper-specific to modern society.

      A mage should have a flying carpet or something exotic. A wheelchair is boring as hell.

      Maybe it's me, I think flying carpets are the boring ones and just don't work outside of middle eastern desert mystic types. I think ultimately I don't see a mage in a wheelchair as that different from a mage carrying a walking cane, both cane and wheelchair serve to give the impression of feebleness that then gets subverted when said mage shows off their massive magical power or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There were wheelchairs in later medieval times but they were bulky, mostly wood contraptions bevause the technology for fine machined metal parts did not exist. They were uncomfortable at best even on flat surfaces and not fit for adventuring. The known records indicate that one was owned by a nobleman and another built by a clockmaker. The latter was described as a wooden contraption with three wheels akin to a wheelbarrow which waa self propelled only through great effort.
        So yes, a rudimentary wheelchair for a rich NPC or made by a talented craftsman would be fine, as long as it wasn't being used for adventuring.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >adventuring
          D&D gays pretend to be imaginative then make the entire world revolve around morons going into ancient dungeons over and over again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm gonna play this game called Dungeons and Dragons
            >wtf why is it always about exploring dungeons and fighting dragons or some other magical enemies?
            You are extremely unintelligent.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know, this could actually work for a "kill streak " or "summon" of sorts. Like that one support thing that Persona 3 had.
          >Wheelchair mage communicates remotely through magic with the party because she can't adventure
          >But she can support them from long distance, using some overly complicated magic that only he or she has learned from not doing anything but sitting all-day reading overly complicated magic texts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wheelchairs are terrible for traversing dungeons or other rugged, outdoors-y activities. Modern society has had to accommodate the wheelchair bound precisely because wheelchairs are not suitable for traversing all terrain.

        Any solution you could come up with to make a wheelchair work in a fantasy setting would ultimately be better off used to come up with a more interesting solution to mobility rather than trying shallowly imitate a facet of modern life. Or you go all the way with it and treat the wheelchair bound character as limited as an actual cripple, but that just wouldn't be fun for anyone involved.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Or you go all the way with it and treat the wheelchair bound character as limited as an actual cripple, but that just wouldn't be fun for anyone involved.
          Eh, it worked well enough for my party. The mage just paid my brawler to carry him around and act his bodyguard. After a few levels the guy made a golem disguised as a wheelchair so he could use it without raising suspicion and suddenly reveal his magical exosuit in a fight.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A wheelchair mage that isn't strong enough to just levitate can totally work, but they shouldn't go adventuring. Maybe you could go with some "levitating is exhausting" bullshit and have them only do it in combat or whenever they run into an obstacle the wheelchair can't go over, like a surface raised by 5cm. But at that point you're better off just getting carried around out of combat by the party's barbarian.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Given magic exists I would prefer some more exotic method of mobility for a cripple. Like riding a giant wolf, a giant spider, some giant spider legs, a mobile lounging chair, a magic carpet, a golem with a seat on his back, a lobotomized ogre, fricking anything besides a basic b***h fricking wheelchair.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh man, time for another round of
    >why does it make more sense for the low-level mage to be able to find and afford to pay a craftsman than to receive a high level healing spell or a permanently enchanted magic item mount that costs 10,000GP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would make less sense to find a craftsman than it would to find a high level mage or 10k gp mount because the former doesn't exist and the latter does.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >low-level mage to be able to find and afford to pay a craftsman
      Well, the craftsman he can afford is gonna make an ordinary wheelchair for him. Not the super empathetic ultra tricked out magical wheelchair that can endure three crits and maneuver stairs and dungeons and never gets so much as a tyre puncture.
      Sound consistent?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's what people who play disabled characters are looking for. That's not the gotcha you think it is; people playing gimped players are looking for inconveniences to overcome and have define their character, and shit like being limited in dungeon settings is what gets them excited.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok. Let's assume that's what they actually want for the sake of argument.
          So, would you flip the frick out if your pathetic wimpy standard issue wheelchair got destroyed? Or even simpler-if your mage gets thrown off it. Now he's a useless floor kisser who cant stnd up, let alone dodge the knives and claws headed his way.
          It is a gotcha because of one extremely simple fact: your wheelchair is an extremely large and easy eakpoint that's going to turn you into a burden on your team.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DnD magic wheelchairs can't be broken and you can't be knocked out of it. Plus they levitate so knocking it over is pointless.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but you're not affording that for a long time. Do you will be knocked over or stopped by simple stairs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah they're actually dirt cheap because making them difficult to obtain is offensive. They're so absurdly good they there is no reason for a full team of able bodied adventurers with perfectly functioning legs to not be zipping around in them everywhere.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >DnD magic wheelchairs can't be broken and you can't be knocked out of it. Plus they levitate so knocking it over is pointless.
              >people playing gimped players are looking for inconveniences to overcome and have define their character
              The hypocrisy, lmao.
              Besides, your low level 2 mage cant afford such a wheelchair. Remember what you agreed to earlier

              >low-level mage to be able to find and afford to pay a craftsman
              Well, the craftsman he can afford is gonna make an ordinary wheelchair for him. Not the super empathetic ultra tricked out magical wheelchair that can endure three crits and maneuver stairs and dungeons and never gets so much as a tyre puncture.
              Sound consistent?

              ?
              Unless you want to make the argument that ordinary craftsmen can make such wheelchairs which just brings up the question of why they dont kae prosthetic legs or jetpacks instead if their artificery is THAT advanced. But we both know that's not it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you're conflating at least 2-3 different posters, and you're still working off the misconception that DnD magic wheelchairs even exist at all. They don't. It's homebrew that everyone agrees is busted and doesn't use.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >DnD magic wheelchairs can't be broken and you can't be knocked out of it. Plus they levitate so knocking it over is pointless.

              >So, would you flip the frick out if your pathetic wimpy standard issue wheelchair got destroyed
              Not particularly, no
              >if your mage gets thrown off it and are now a floor kisser
              Nah, that's actually part of the appeal, having that weakness
              >let alone dodge the knives and claws headed this way
              Well actually that'd depend on the character's upper body strength and degree of disability. Really enemies would just get the same Advantage and you Disadvantage as you would with normal prone fighting rules in most cases
              >it is a gotcha: your wheelchair is an extremely large and easy weakpoint
              It's not a gotcha if THAT'S WHAT THE PLAYER WANTS WHEN THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THE WHEELCHAIR, DUMBASS

              >if THAT'S WHAT THE PLAYER WANTS WHEN THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THE WHEELCHAIR, DUMBASS
              Im confused. Are both of you agreeing or contradicting each other?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Contradicting. First post you quoted is taking broken homebrew as official gospel, the second is talking about experiences with players who've brought gimped characters to the table.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The D&D wheelchairs are unironically fricking broken and there's no reason for anyone to not use one even if they're not crippled.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The D&D wheelchairs are unironically fricking broken
              There are no D&D wheelchairs. D&D wheelchairs are still homebrew; it's Pathfinder 2e that has them baked into the rules.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So, would you flip the frick out if your pathetic wimpy standard issue wheelchair got destroyed
            Not particularly, no
            >if your mage gets thrown off it and are now a floor kisser
            Nah, that's actually part of the appeal, having that weakness
            >let alone dodge the knives and claws headed this way
            Well actually that'd depend on the character's upper body strength and degree of disability. Really enemies would just get the same Advantage and you Disadvantage as you would with normal prone fighting rules in most cases
            >it is a gotcha: your wheelchair is an extremely large and easy weakpoint
            It's not a gotcha if THAT'S WHAT THE PLAYER WANTS WHEN THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THE WHEELCHAIR, DUMBASS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah except that's not what's being argued for
          What's being atgued for is D&D wheelchairs.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this image proves that the physically disabled are, by default, mentally disabled as well.
    > durr i cant imagine a character who isn't disabled like me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only the physically disabled would play disabled characters
      Sounds like you're mentally disabled as well. You should get together and be friends!

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wheelchair wizards are lame considering that disabled wizards can be carried by a strong warrior and then, combine their forces. Fricking Dark Souls 3 did it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A mage could do any number of things cooler than a wheelchair.
      Flying carpet, floating platform, golem legs, artificial legs, straight levitation, teleportation, mage hand, etc.
      All these things are cooler ways to handle a wizard with no legs than "uhhhh wheelchair!"

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not about the disability, it's about the sort of person who pushes for it with Power Word: Inclusion

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be a paralyzed in a horse carriage accident
    >literally a vegetable from the neck down
    >might as well learn some magic since I cannot do physical tasks anymore
    >learn how to move objects via telekinesis
    >start small, moving books and shit around
    >decide to try it on a rat, made its limbs obey my command and dance
    >it works
    >try it on my own limbs
    >stand up and clap like I'm from some unknown land across the sea
    >practice moving my body via telekinesis for the next 5 years
    >can only maintain control for about 16 hours before I need to rest to regenerate mana
    >i am a disabled mage in a fantasy setting who don't need no wheelchair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This would be a fun character. You'd even be really paranoid about silencing or magic dampening effects because they'd make you just collapse to the ground, prone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also you're literally cutting your movement time for the day every time you use mana on any other spell.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This would be a fun character. You'd even be really paranoid about silencing or magic dampening effects because they'd make you just collapse to the ground, prone.

      Also you're literally cutting your movement time for the day every time you use mana on any other spell.

      >resident musclemonster begrudgingly dragging him around after he blows his load
      Writes itself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >getting carried away from the aftermath of a high level spell by your party because your mana is utterly drained after saving them
        >have tons of respect from your party despite being slung over the barbarian's shoulder and drooling on his hide armor because of what you manage to accomplish with your disability
        It's the cripple fantasy without removing the being crippled part.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This would be a fun character. You'd even be really paranoid about silencing or magic dampening effects because they'd make you just collapse to the ground, prone.

      Also you're literally cutting your movement time for the day every time you use mana on any other spell.

      [...]
      [...]
      >resident musclemonster begrudgingly dragging him around after he blows his load
      Writes itself

      >getting carried away from the aftermath of a high level spell by your party because your mana is utterly drained after saving them
      >have tons of respect from your party despite being slung over the barbarian's shoulder and drooling on his hide armor because of what you manage to accomplish with your disability
      It's the cripple fantasy without removing the being crippled part.

      you should do character design, guys. i'm actually interested.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This would be a fun character. You'd even be really paranoid about silencing or magic dampening effects because they'd make you just collapse to the ground, prone.

      Also you're literally cutting your movement time for the day every time you use mana on any other spell.

      [...]
      [...]
      >resident musclemonster begrudgingly dragging him around after he blows his load
      Writes itself

      >That one time you drop your telekinesis and pretend you just got paralyzed to prank someone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How would he learn magic if he's paralyzed from the neck though? You need the gestures and arm motions to cast shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats benders moron(Ignore that one scene with king Bumi's face no one else did that shit) Though they did have that armless water bender so maybe relevant?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fantasy setting
    >a fricking wheelchair
    if you're a magician why not levitate like a pro? why not summon a bunch of skelletons to carry you around? why not cast heal disabilities on yourself?
    having a cripple just for the sake of having a cripple is telling non-crippled players "we're filling our disability checkboxes" and your crippled players "even in a fantasy setting you'd suffer"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They want to have their cake and eat it too. Reminds me of the Baldur's Gate 1 beamdog trash, where they added a specifically transgender NPC... in a fantasy setting where magic can alter reality, additionally to a game series that established ways even the mundane can use transformative magic, e.g. an enchanted belt or potion.
      It can't be that swapping sex is easy, oh no; that would erase their super special and unique designation, with all the positive and none of the negative social or physical aspects. Got to have that 'representation' that these troglodytes must 100% relate to in any and all fiction. It's all so fricking tiresome.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you're a magician why not levitate like a pro?
      Depends on if you're using a system where you can only cast a spell X number of times a day or a raw MP system. In both cases it's too costly to do it all the time. You're either burning all your spell slots and potentially leaving yourself vulnerable at a critical moment, or burning all your MP to the same end, and MP potions aren't cheap.

      You could make an argument for a crippled mage using a wheelchair. You'd be using it in tandem with levitation and/or golems though.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a lot of disabled characters in fantasy. I don't get the drama.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guess this case is more science fiction than fantasy, but as an unironic doctor who gay, I've tried to stay level headed and optimistic as the show went steadily downward and it just so happened that seeing a woman in a wheelchair shooting rockets that were built into her wheelchair at aliens was my final straw. Wheelchairs will never be acceptable in any kind of setting, and the only badass thing someone in a wheelchair can do in real life is have sex and race other wheelchair people

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how about wheelchair guns?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >should
    Well it isn't. "Should"s have no effect on reality.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    take your bait and fricking blow yourself you god damn peice of shit butthole

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, disabilities are cool when trannies don't advocate for them

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Learn from GURPS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget the magic wheelchair binds to your soul and when you shapeshift yourself you're still crippled and in a wheelchair in your new form.
      I'm not joking.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon is joking.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw when you finally become number one wizard in the world, ready to overcome your disability for good only to find out that no matter what you do, the reminder is always there
        >even as a formless fire elemental the wooden chair is still glued to your heat

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >magec**t in wheelchair
    OK sure but...
    >movement is a full action
    >can only move 1 square per turn
    >every melee hit is an auto critical
    >lose every strength check instantly

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wheelchair mage is a cutie

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's just so limiting to pidgeonhole a character into one specific real life disability
    there are so many fictional characters who are blatantly autistic for example, and authors never put a label on it because that instantly makes the character only relatable to autists

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reminds me of when the west tried to "adapt" gundam for children (SD gundam?) and they made the crippled kid transform into a robot with threads unlike all the other cool robots who can fly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Guntank is GOAT though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Let's over design everything
        Way to ruin already goated designs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My apologies, Anon, please have this one as compensation

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Clean
            >Content
            >Firing all cylinders
            That is life at its fullest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only reason I'm going to miss Gundam evolution is that stupid simple tank fricker was fun.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Leftists trying to not put a mental/physical illness into games challenge IMPOSSIBLE

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be cripple confined to wheelchair
    >every attack against you is a coup de grace
    >roll new cripple every session

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I played a quadraplegic mage in Shadowrun who puppeted her own immobile body around with telekinesis. It was a fun campaign.
    The real matter of disability representation in a fantasy setting is let them have access to the fantastic tools that everyone else does.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no reason people can't be disabled in a fantasy setting but the people with the means to cure it, or hide it would 100% do so. If someone is missing a leg, and it costs 10000g to repair, then peasants with a networth of a few gold aren't going to ever be able to have access to it.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so glad we live in a timeline where Big Boss and Guts can meet diversity quotas. Perhaps one of these days, we will get an EGS funded game with an entirely white male cast because they have various disabilities.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >make white character
      >give them an "invisible" disability
      >gets EGS bucks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Frick it. Count me in.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Frick it. Count me in.

      Don't get started without me.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to make a spiteful bastard in a wheelchair with a gun character, but unfortunately it sort of goes out the window once he has to go on grass.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. They should be all killed on sight by the royal decree.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of a wheelchair, why not use an animal companion as a mount or use magic to levitate or get a magic rug or a flying artifact?
    Going into dungeons with a wheelchair is just asking for trouble and being a liability to your party because the moment the terrain gets rough hell would go to that character.
    Not to mention, the wheelchair’s worst enemy: Stairs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I were a DM and I see a player making a character with an ordinary wheelchair, I am not gonna pull punches. Dungeons have by default rough terrain and stairs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        rough terrain alone would halt a wheelchair, like no you can't even move 5 feet through it in a turn, it would be faster to get out and crawl.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not only that, you would probably need one of your party members to help you push the wheelchair. Such a liability

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this is why i would only allow a cripple character in my party if they were a necromancer.
            Well i'd make an exception for a blind monk or swordmaster, but that's a different kind of cripple anyway.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The armored core 6 wheelchair was crazy fricking fast

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It had rocket boosters, anon.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Not using magic to circumvent their limitations
    Uncreative and pandering

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    avatar did it right with the water arms in korra

    when the power compensates their disability and makes them even stronger than an able person, otherwise it's just tokenism diversity quota

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you could learn, master magic. The first thing I would do is use magic to regain my body from whatever is crippling it.
    Nobody wants to be wheelchair bound or have some sort of disability.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have a problem with disabilities in fantasy, I have an issue with the way these people want to see those disabilities executed.
    No, there wouldn't be wheelchairs as we know them, but a wizard could enchant a flying rug or there could be crafted prosthetics that require some sort of magical energy to power. Someone being blind from birth or becoming blind as a result of a magical accident is still believable, someone being an autist with a fascination for specific flora or fauna or a historical people would make sense.

    It just takes some imagination. A fricking wheelchair isn't what you want to see. You want to see a magister who has had his legs atrophy and has to levitate everywhere. A knight who had an arm removed but trains to fight one-handed and pays for specialized gear. I get so fricking annoyed by these people constantly wanting their limited scopes in games and their inability to sympathize with anyone that isn't exactly like them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but a wizard could enchant a flying rug or there could be crafted prosthetics that require some sort of magical energy to power
      How are you getting that at Level 1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wheelchairs are pretty expensive too, damn. Better crawl everywhere instead.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bro my arms would be so jacked, maybe I should.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but being Level 1 usually means your character has accrued some level of adventuring experience and cash anyways, potentially even a little bit of status. It's more reasonable that your character has commissioned some rudimentary form of cripple transport if they've reached that point, even if it means you're going to rely on your party for rough terrain, stairs, and tight places.

          Bro my arms would be so jacked, maybe I should.

          That I'd actually love to play as a character: Crippled Barbarian that runs around on his hands like the fukken Lopers from RtCW, his legs bound to his chest, and otherwise scooting around on a plank with wheels in their downtime. Having to balance on one palm to make attacks with his axe in the other hand-foot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would it not make more sense to get a pair of crutches so you won't immediately get stumped by an ankle-high ledge?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, if you wanted that, you'd probably have both. Some form of wheeled chair for general travel across fair terrain, crutches (and being assisted by party members) when crossing terrain that'd require your chair be temporarily left behind.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wizard stays behind enemy lines casting support magic, later on you can get the wheelchair or whatever for mobility and he finally gets added to the party. Perhaps a "Glass canon" type unless he trains the rest of his body off-screen or before the game started. Don't expect him to box a Turtle Kangaroo or whatever monster.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can conjure food, walk on water, become invisible, move objects telephatically etc.
    You can also fix your broken body.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even more stupid then the wheelchair is the mage taking point. You're a glass cannon with low armor and hp, if you get taken out the group loses a ton of utility and damage. What are you doing out in front, goddamn.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Professor X usually stayed at home and not in battle. So yes there can be handicapped people in a fantasy world, but they shouldn't be diving into dungeons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Charles has been walking around for a while now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Charles has been walking around for a while now.

      >Enter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >gets ROCK'd

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon he shot himself.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you saying being a manlet is a disability on par with being a cripple?

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not using magic to move crippled legs and walk like a normal human

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wheelchairs weren’t invented yet and I doubt most places would be handicap accessible.
    >go in dungeon
    >no ramp, only stairs
    >GAME OVER
    Unless they work things like this into the game and make cool ways to circumvent these inconveniences they would’ve had it will be a shit game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lots of things that weren't invented yet in medieval times are standard in fantasy.
      Plus the reality of actual play is more like
      >go in dungeon
      >no ramp, only stairs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wheelchairs weren’t invented yet
      what the frick's a "yet" in fantasy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wheelchairs were invented in the year 3272 shortly before the discovery of fire magic during the Greater Y'laj period which you should know led quickly to the harnessing of ice and bone magics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fine lets give everyone in dnd a smartphone and ar 15’s since that doesn’t concern you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there is literally no difference between wheels on a chair and an Audi 2015 A6 with heated seating!!
          What a disingenuous Black person. But you'll have no problem with a mithral automaton that carries her up stairs instead right? Nevermind that a magic golem should be much harder to make and procure than WOODEN FRICKING WHEELS ON A CHAIR.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You could also have orcs and elves in a modern setting. The only thing that matters is internal consistency.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wheelchairs don't break internal consistency in 90% of fantasy settings. Only in extraordinary high fantasy settings where healing can easily undo maiming.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Only in extraordinary high fantasy settings where healing can easily undo maiming.
                Some people are thinking in terms of Isekai and video game settings where you can get heal death, unless they die in a cutscene.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Trannies make personality out of being trannies. This is why even in future settings where man can become woman you see trannies.

                This is not good take. You wouldn't do any "adventuring" in wheelchair. Even in fantasy settings people are not this moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You wouldn't do any "adventuring" in wheelchair
                Since we know everyone in a fantasy setting is an adventurer following D&D rules to explore generic dungeons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no situation in which a wheelchair gives someone an advantage

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you cannot heal permanent leg injuries then a wheelchair makes sense. It's something that purely depends on the rules of the setting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If you cannot heal permanent leg injuries then a wheelchair makes sense.
                Absolutely no.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Justify your position.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're cripple who can't fight. Normally it means retirement. But if you're insist...why not use mecha suite? Magical exoskeleton.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you know how expensive that shit is?
                Also, fantasy setting. I can fight by wiggling my fingertips and casting greater hangnail.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you can do that, then the former is probably not that expensive or difficult to achieve either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you know how expensive that shit is?
                Golems are nothing special.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is ENTIRELY setting based, in some settings a helper construct might be a moderate purchase or it could be a king's ransom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But if we go deeper if you're not powerful enough to make your own exoskeleton/golem wheelchair will get your killed. No even worse your party will be killed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Escaping down a nice smooth paved road on a steep hill?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've played enough sonic to know a snowboard is more optimal for that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >adventuring
                D&D gays pretend to be imaginative then make the entire world revolve around morons going into ancient dungeons over and over again.

                Where are they getting xp to level, if not that? A lvl1 cripple isn't going out and doing battles or anything. Maybe mages could level in magic school, but that doesn't work for anything else (and they could also get some magical form of transport by that point).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Leveling is the stupidest story concept to ever come out of D&D. It makes sense for games, but for writing stories it's absolutely moronic. Although even by CRPG rules most XP is given by completing quests, not by killing random mobs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People tend to not wanting to die yes. But if your setting is very realistic, low fantasy (not some dirty isekai or high fantasy) so yeah I guess it's normal for people to act pants on head moronic. It's fantasy bruh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If people cared about their lives they wouldn't be exploring creepy dungeons sis.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a high risk / high reward. If they didn't care about their lives they wouldn't try to survive.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > But you'll have no problem with a mithral automaton that carries her up stairs instead right?
            Never said i wouldn’t. That’s steampunk trash
            > Nevermind that a magic golem should be much harder to make and procure than WOODEN FRICKING WHEELS ON A CHAIR
            Explain why it took so long irl then.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Explain why it took so long irl then.
              Because someone had to fricking come up with it. It's not like you just get free information for being alive. The steam engine was invented in ancient rome but nobody thought to use it to power a turbine and create a machine until the 1800s. Inventors are not restricted by era, only by presence or lack thereof.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Breaking: Malefictus Misanthropian, notorious Lich Lord and master of dungeon CBT-1698A has filed a lawsuit against the Duergar renovation company Goldstein Renovation, Holdings, and M&A Consultation, alleging that the company neglected to provide the handicap options stipulated in the contract. Levi Goldstein, CEO and major shareholder of Goldstein Renovation, Holdings, and M&A Consultation was unable to be reached for input on the suit, but Malefictus has stated that he would see this case to the Supreme Court if he had to, further iterating that, "death in a dungeon is a right possessed by all creatures, regardless of physical or mental capabilities."

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have any problem whatsoever with disabled, black, women, gay, trans whatever being in games. I have a problem with them being included solely because the creators have a political desire to promote diversity. It takes me out of the content to picture the developers creating characters just to tick some political box. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot tbh

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wheelchair-chan is cute. That is all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wanna play with her numb, paralyzed feet

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Video games?

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SF is a fantasy fighting game set in modern world, they are literally throwing fireballs, psy-shit, has a demon supernatural being and other things that make it fantasy plus other Qi related powers, if this isn't martial arts fantasy, I don't know what is since you didn't define medieval only.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man i thought turtle homie was missing the arm this entire time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was just him trapping his powers in a way to prevent from ending fights too soon, unleashing his technique you can hit a 20ish combo if your opponent doesn't know how to hold back and down in a predictable manner.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dungeon has stairs
    frick

    Complaining to the dungeon master about accessibility doesn't translate into fiction, however ironic that is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      “DM, can you put an accesibility ramp next to the stair?”
      That would break the mood and the atmosphere of the session.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    cast Ramesses' Resplendent Ramp you scrubs it's only a first level spell

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My party is raiding a dungeon, it's very dangerous and we could be killed.

    The mage in a wheelchair, yeah we'll take them, wouldn't want people to think we aren't inclusive

    Oh that party that took the cripple? Yeah, they got wiped out on the first floor.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By this logic, a movie like The Rock isn't the tightest shit ever, because Nicolas Cage's character was brought in for his smarts despite being a liability with limited combat skills, and for implying that The Rock isn't the tightest shit ever, an envelope full of anthrax has been mailed to your house automatically.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Caring for disabled girls in fiction is really heartwarming but I imagine it must be quite difficult in real life.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I had to be a crippled wizard I would either permafloat or ride a palanquin held up by skellingtons. I wouldn't use a boring ass wheelchair.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If I had to be a crippled wizard I would either permafloat or ride a palanquin held up by skellingtons
      In D&D skeletons are a temporary spell and in other settings they require mana. Floating is also more expensive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In D&D skeletons are a temporary spell and in other settings they require mana
        Animate dead makes a permanent skeleton servant, in both 3.5 and 5e.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine making your disability part of your personality. I have a small dick but I don't parade around extolling the virtues of small dick pride.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    someone in my tabletop group tried to make a disabled character because they're now OP. The DM let the rest of us knock them out of their chair and sell it. We then strapped them to the half-orc's back but whenever combat started they'd be tossed to the floor and have to roll against hitting their head and being knocked out or just being caught off guard. ironically as we came up with more indignities like this through the campaign we all came to understand the plight of disabled people better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because they're now OP.
      How?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TRPG players are sickos.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not just strapping your cripple ass to the back of your dwarf cleric bro in a kazooie-style gimp backpack

      Cripples, when will they learn to be team players

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why don't they just have magical wheelchairs? or does it need to be a chair with wheels?

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to know why is this being posted every few hours on multiple boards?

    Is it an attempt at outrage shilling?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's culture war shit. Amerimutts can only think in terms of blue team vs red team.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I want people to know I'm disabled in a role playing game

    People already think you're moronic in real life, there's no pretending.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AIslop and a thread thats been posted multiple times before.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When will they start making games for mentally ill men like myself?

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop playing D&D (Forgotten Realms)

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why wouldn't you just use a heal spell on her legs. seems pretty cruel.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so you escape into a fantasy world where you can be anything you want to be and you're still crippled?

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Can you do disability representation well in a fantasy setting?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when you eat a pizza naked and accidentally drop the pepperoni on your breasts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Her nips looks like a pig's snout

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >manmade_horrors.jpg

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This setting has magic in it so you should just blindly accept whatever bullshit we try to shove down your throat without question, even if it clashes thematically with the setting or violates the in-universe logic in blisteringly obvious ways that even an illiterate sheepfricker from rural New Zealand would be able to explain in specific detail.

    Hey, I have a question, if the setting has healing magic in it, why can't an adventurer afford to have their disability cured?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >posts Freud
      >asks why people have subconscious desires and fetishes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, I wouldn't have a problem if people would just admit it was a fetish and move on. It's the people who insist their magical realm has to be the only acceptable canon that piss me off.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone post old DnD manuals about traps in dungeons? Those were such complicated torture killing machines. Imagine trying to avoid them in wheelchair.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do we let people in wheelchairs serve in the military or police? No. They can't be an adventurer fighting a dragon either.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like her brain is doing all the legwork here.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >handicap accessible goblins caves
    just go play shadowrun and strap yourself to a steel lynx you fricking homosexual

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a DM, if I ever get one of these cripple characters in my games I would make him encounter a wandering healer who would fix his body for free on the way to the first dungeon without any sort of previous warning. Then the healer would just leave never to be seen again. That would be fun.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like this topic has a lot of people being intentionally disingenuous for the sake of argument.

    like, sure, in a fantasy setting, you could have a paralyzed/immobile person who cannot be healed for whatever reason, maybe the magic of the setting is limited, or the injuries or illness they have can't be fixed magically, or maybe its not a normal ailment, but some kind of curse.

    But no, this immobile person is not going to delve into the lich's lair or plunder the dragon horde in a fricking wheelchair.

    There are also far cooler ways to get an immobile person mobile in a fantasy setting than a modern-ass wheelchair. an artificer could build them a spider leg seat, a normal chair could be enchanted to walk, levitation, a flying carpet, a beast of burden, a palanquin carried by golems, etc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But no, this immobile person is not going to delve into the lich's lair or plunder the dragon horde in a fricking wheelchair.
      Except they will, because the wheelchair they are using comes with broken powers that eliminate all downsides of being a cripple, making the character trait completely irrelevant.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >making the character trait completely irrelevant.
        Wait they want to be cripples without any downsides?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Cripple characters come with absurdly broken wheelchairs that levitate, can't be destroyed, can't be damaged, can't be fallen from, etc.

          then why doesn't everyone have one?

          It's funny, the meta *is* getting everyone on a wheelchair because they have no downside and a bunch of upsides.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes. Cripple characters come with absurdly broken wheelchairs that levitate, can't be destroyed, can't be damaged, can't be fallen from, etc.
            This is an entirely different argument than what is presented.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              someone came up with a whole google doc for magic wheelchairs in D&D. it's not official but its the one most people use.

              and yeah, its stupid how broken they are.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Combat wheelchairs. Yes. They came up with magic combat wheelchairs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then why doesn't everyone have one?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly
          When affordable chadchairs are available on every corner why isn't everyone using them for the benefits?

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When you introduce levitating cripple chairs into your setting you're asking the question yourself, why would someone use these over healing their ailment? The answers that follow aren't very kosher

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reconstituting the body via magic is expensive and requires high level magic.
    Mage-chan is going to earn the money herself by tackling all of the wheelchair-accessible dungeons so she can afford to hire a Cleric to cast Rank 7 Bob's Greater Unfrickyourshit. Maybe along the way she finds a kindly living suit of armor that lost its top half so it serves as her legs as the two go on a quest together to gain a new functional bottom half and complete top half.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >play necromancer
    >make a walking wheelchair out of bones
    It's that easy

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    would necromancy work on a paralyzed persons limbs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Clerics can revive a body even when there is only ashes left.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lose a limb
        >have to ask your buddy to cave your skull in so the cleric can heal you back properly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not if they were only paralyzed, they would have to completely die before they could be made into undead prosthetics. So you'd have to let the leg necrotize first, so if it was like a spinal injury paralysis you wouldn't be able to turn your legs into skeletons to walk, but if it was something like frostbite where you'd normally amputate you could probably amputate it then turn it into a zombie or skeleton leg and reattach it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depending on the fantasy setting and whether or not the undead is actually decayed or not (zombie waifus that don't rot and look human for example), you might want to get killed and instantly revived instead. Way easier than trying to guess medical knowledge to revive limbs. Also, undead perks, I hope that setting doesn't make you burn instantly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Casts Turn Undead on you.
        What now, smartass?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IDK, just use "anti-turn undead" armor or magic or something else, as I said, depends entirely on the setting and the rules it has regarding how 2 undead.
          Might as well go the Lich route and ditch the paralyzed mage part.

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In a world with magical healing, being a cripple is a choice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not use healing magic

      see

      In some settings, magic sucks at fixing permanent complications. It can patch up a severed jugular but a severed nerve cluster is fricking gone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In those settings magic is shit and no one will use wheelchairs. Simple.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Beautiful young-girl apprentice in a wheelchair
    Unacceptable woke shite
    >Wizened semi-retired master-wizard in a wheelchair
    Based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wizened semi-retired master-wizard in a wheelchair
      Master wizard can't even fix his own legs? Shit wizard.

      >Yes. Cripple characters come with absurdly broken wheelchairs that levitate, can't be destroyed, can't be damaged, can't be fallen from, etc.
      This is an entirely different argument than what is presented.

      Are you implying giant soulless corporations lie to get their way? No way. Look it up. The wheelchairs are broken.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        someone came up with a whole google doc for magic wheelchairs in D&D. it's not official but its the one most people use.

        and yeah, its stupid how broken they are.

        In those settings magic is shit and no one will use wheelchairs. Simple.

        Again: this is an entirely different argument than what is presented.
        One dude's shitbrew is not what OP posted, Black folk.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go look up the official resources, then. They say the same.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are no "official sources" you blithering moron because it's not official content, it's one dude's shitbrew.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, they are. They say any cripple character can join the adventure with no downside. The shitbrew is just a bunch of upsides.

              My setting doesn't have cvcked slave morality religions. Frick your angels.

              Oh wow so edgy how cool. I bet you drown in pussy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where do you think you are? The pussy-getting board is down the aisle.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, they are. They say any cripple character can join the adventure with no downside. The shitbrew is just a bunch of upsides.
                Hey look at that, two entirely separate notions that you are equating for no good reason because you do not think.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey look at that, two entirely separate notions that you are equating for no good reason because you do not think.
                Wrong. The whole idea of cripples joining dangerous adventures is ridiculous. The fact they have no downside is even more moronic. This is not including the upsides from the homebrew. Eliminate them and the issue would still be there. A cripple does not belong in the dungeon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick do you want? Are you cripple or something? Wheelchair is shit idea. If your setting has shit magic it's bad. If your setting has good magic you're not going to use shitty wheelchair.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If your setting has shit magic it's bad.
            Ah I did not realize you had been elected king of all fiction milord, sorry for not gratifying your tastes and your tastes alone.
            homosexual.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >can't use magic to heal
              >can't use magic to create mecha golem exoskeleton
              >somehow can create magical indestructible OC do not steal wheelchair that let you do anything
              Frick off. Your setting is total garbage.

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not use healing magic

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Magic exist
    >Somehow it can't cure paraplegics
    It would be just moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's plenty of settings like that though. Where magic can cure small cuts but not restore a lost hand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you are making settings specifically to allow a protagonist in a wheelchair? Does this hypothetical videogame also have ramps all around the map instead of stairs?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no you're making for example a dark fantasy setting where magic is rare and dangerous outside of fairly minor effects

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But do disabled people actually want that?
    You have no fricking legs but in this 3D videogame you can walk and run as much as you want but you choose not to?

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't they just heal their disability? Fricking moronic.

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to find these gays so I can play a cleric and cast restoration/miracle to give them their legs back

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have the ability to cure any ailment
    >don't
    Same for the Harry Potter troony. You have magic you can just change your sex. The only reason not to is because you're a prick.

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is this cute to watch.
      I hope she won the MC bowl.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hope she won the MC bowl
        Don't know if anyone won Guilty Crown, think I dropped out about the halfway point but remember thinking just by threads at the time that it must have gone off the rails, over the shark, and into a portal to nazi germany
        Might rewatch it proper because typing that out, it sounds like a good time

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I definitely rec it as a drunk watch with the bros. It can be insufferable at times, but when it goes off the rails it's hell of a time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's utterly fricking moron kino like Code Geass or Darling in the Franxx or that one with the normie princess making everyone uncomfortable being a muggle and getting executed for it.
          Also grab Vulvarape and Symphogear, shit's fun.

          Anime is at it's best when it's either not taking itself seriously at all, or too serious despite going full moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >or that one with the normie princess making everyone uncomfortable being a muggle and getting executed for it
            Cross Ange is actual kino, the moronation is calculated

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Code Geass is kino

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anime is at its best when it's moronic but it plays it straight, except for season 2 of Franxx which stank like ASS.

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GOOD THING THIS LICH MADE HIS DUNGEON WHEELCHAIR-ACCESSIBLE!

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you can stop being a cripple but you have to sacrifice all your friends in a demon sex orgy ritual
    Would you do it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Without even thinking about it, yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I was turned cripple due to spite-clouded homolust causing me to hatefrick an insane king's daughter and getting caught in her bed, unraveling plans and sacrifices years in the making, I probably deserved it

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+f "stairs"
    >121 matches
    Also nobody's saying that wheelchairs couldn't exist in D&D, they're saying that people using one would not be an adventurer.
    How many roofers do you know in our massively handicapped accessible IRL world do you know? Fricking zero, because it's moronic to expect someone with no legs to spend all day going up and down ladders. You want some old alchemist who never leaves his shop or a crippled librarian who tends to a magical library to be ina chair? Crack on, it's been done in fantasy a million times before. You want to be COOL ROGUE ADVENTURER traipsing through the wilderness and exploring caves and ruins that a fit and healthy young man would find reasonably difficult? That's where the immersion breaks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you want some old alchemist who never leaves his shop or a crippled librarian who tends to a magical library to be ina chair?
      Both these examples can afford the local cleric. Cripples in these settings make no sense at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The original image doesn't suggest she is on a dungeon. It seems more like she is a retired mage that got ambushed by bandits its in the city.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was talking generally.

        >you want some old alchemist who never leaves his shop or a crippled librarian who tends to a magical library to be ina chair?
        Both these examples can afford the local cleric. Cripples in these settings make no sense at all.

        Maybe it's just deterioration from old age, you can't lesser restoration your spine every day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A retired mage can afford the local cleric. Some religions have festivals where they heal people for free.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She got hit by an ancient curse of not-walking that can only be reversed by an ancient gem of bullshit-writing.

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I do "disability representation" in a typical setting where magical healing and even reincarnation exists?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >reincarnation
      That only means it's a shit-tier setting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reincarnation has been a D&D spell since the fricking start.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be disabled
    >use your imagination to be anything you want to be
    >choose to still be disabled

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically I would love to play a game with the creator of the combat wheelchair.

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're trying to get me worked up about culture was bullshit, but all that image makes me think is, " that's really cute! "

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Sarah drink the fricking health potion and walk. I am tired of you being a liability just because you think it would be "ableist" to cure yourself.
    Steve nearly got stabbed to death last week because you couldn't get up the stairs in time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're wearing a fricking cape you Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's called fashion, you dumb prostitute! maybe if you would stand up once in a while, then MAYBE you could take a walk to the next clothing store

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagined Chris Farley screaming that lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frickign hell, that would be funny. I had someone like Patrick Warburton in my head

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Warbuton is hilarious but I think he falls flat for something so charged. The most explosive I heard him was on venture bros. Chris just has this energy and vocal decible to match it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah well your fricking fashion has gotten caught by strangling vines three times last month alone and the fire spells we had to use to free you from them burned down a whole warehouse we were supposed to investigate you fricking c**t, you're lucky you spend all your fricking day waving your microdick sword at goblins rather than anything with half a brain to grapple that fricking thing while you're doing your gay fricking sword twirls

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            At least i can fricking take it off, when shit hits the fan, like you hit the fricking floor everytime you role over a FRICKING pebble, you obnoxious party wizard! "Ouh guys, one of the skeletons stuck his bone between my wheels, which makes me immobilized!". At least use something else like a fricking wolf or a warbear, you moron! Ms. I Can shoot sparks out of my finger tips, but can't get up back into my wheels

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why do you keep wanting me to get a fricking animal companion so much, so you can get knotted in camp when you think nobody else's awake, you closeted furry frick? Or you think me and the ranger never talk about how obviously eager you are to take Steelfang on fricking walks into the woods by your own, huh? Maybe we'll see how hard it is for YOU to get on a chair if I cast fricking paralyze on your ass and cast Enlarge and Alter Weight on me and my chair and then run over your FRICKING KNEES.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, look who's talking! You're just jealous because the only people who want's to frick you, are weird ass pedo perverts! And i can promise you and your downsyndrom looking ass, that your legs wont be the only thing that gets brocken, the next time you try to cast SHIT! Fricking hells, i swear to the gods that i gonna throw you off the cliff, next time we go on a "handicap-friendly" quest again!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Surprise, b***h, the only reason why have to go on "handicap-friendly adventures" is because we have to babysit your fricking moronic "I use INT and WIS as dumb stats"main character ass so we can get at least SOME shit done while simultaneously having to keep a 24/7 watch to prevent you from eating the druid's horse manure or thinking that threatening a caster who knows LEVITATION with throwing them off someplace tall means anything, you c**t. Next time we make camp for the night you better pray you don't wake up to find out I parked my chair over your sleeping bag and took a dump on your generic fricking isekai protagonist FACE

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, look who's talking! You're just jealous because the only people who want's to frick you, are weird ass pedo perverts! And i can promise you and your downsyndrom looking ass, that your legs wont be the only thing that gets brocken, the next time you try to cast SHIT! Fricking hells, i swear to the gods that i gonna throw you off the cliff, next time we go on a "handicap-friendly" quest again!

                Just kiss already, jeez.

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I had magic powers, I would manipulate shit around me to make working legs.
    Let's say my bones on my legs are null and can't be healed. Alright, I'll just make some mechanical leg straps that would make my leg move at my command. Why would anyone limit themselves willingly?

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have no issue accepting disabled people in a fantasy setting whatsoever, I have an issue with medieval societies treating cripples nicely in a time where most of the world was in a state of "you don't work, you don't eat".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a capitalist work ethic that outright didn't existed in medieval times. Cripples and crazy people were maintained by the community as long as they were funny.

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But there's lots of women in games already

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do not believe in representation at all. Hence I can play games where I play as a ghost, a animal, a girl, or even a inhuman monster.

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've briefly "befriended" two different people in wheelchairs; they are extremely socially isolated rejects JUST because they can't get around. It takes twice as long to do basic shit also. And guess what? Nobody else has time for that

    Disabled and crippled people are fricking miserable and aside from serious injury/accident it's NOT normal or common to be like them.

    It's brutal just being normal IRL. Black folk ruin normal shit so you can't even enjoy normal things. Black folk rape cripples and tbh I wish nigs were enslaved again, genocided or shipped back to shithole Africa

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just ride a magical, intelligent creature

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, but if you make wheelchairs autonomous super battle chariots that cost less than a horse, every murderhobo should own one just because they can.

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the setting, since you'll need consistent internal logic to explain why they can't just magic away their disability. However, wheelchairs are specifically terrible for adventurers who need to traverse very difficult and uneven terrain and in writing they're a shorthand for physical weakness and frailty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Depends on the setting
      This is Dungeons and Dragons we are talking about. Cripples shouldn't exists in that setting.

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Can you do disability representation well in a fantasy setting?

    Did you miss out on the biggest Fantasy franchise of the 2010’s?

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why must it be a wheelchair? Why can't it be a cool ride? You can't even make a cool pun out of it. Armageddon outta here these inclusive morons are hacks without a lick of imagination.

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >has magic
    >can rez the dead
    >doesn't repair legs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all settings are exactly the same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Can't regenerate foreskin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cursed from birth by demonic entities

        Thats benders moron(Ignore that one scene with king Bumi's face no one else did that shit) Though they did have that armless water bender so maybe relevant?

        I think it's more of a per setting issue, but a setting where the BEGINNER tier of wizardry is being able to just will the spell into existance by thought is extremely fricking lame.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Even in fantasy can't escape Shekelschmidt the dreaded
          Why even bother

  109. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    okay if you can't heal via magic, why don't you just make magic legs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yet again, it depends on setting.
      Since everyone wants to point to D&D as the premier example, animated constructs are agonizingly expensive in D&D. Grafting functioning legs onto your person is possible, but will run you the price of a small city, because permanent magic is never cheap.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yet again, it depends on setting.
      Since everyone wants to point to D&D as the premier example, animated constructs are agonizingly expensive in D&D. Grafting functioning legs onto your person is possible, but will run you the price of a small city, because permanent magic is never cheap.

      I'm actually running a campaign where one of the major antagonists discovered magical metals capable of fusing with flesh and leveraged that to make magic cyborgs, functional limb replacements, and even a surrogate body for his comatose daughter.

  110. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously using magic or some special ability to levitate instead of a FRICKING WHEELCHAIR

  111. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm mentally disabled

  112. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even old liberals from the TSR era basically took one look at wheelchairs in dungeons and said "that's incredibly stupid".
    WotC are just twitter dickriders at this point.

  113. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ngl i think it's kino when it's revealed one of your party members was just a puppet body and then you see your party member real body and it's either just a brain or just a broken husk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like Men in Black?

  114. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poor people don't get access to high healing magic
    Heretics don't get access to high healing magic
    Healing potions work, but only on fresh/short-term wounds. Even then, if you get your arm chopped off and you position it incorrectly then chug a healing potion, it heals incorrectly and you need to undergo expensive procedures to fix it (or slice it off and chance it again)

    It's that easy

  115. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here's the real question Ganker

    how would you make a trans protagonist or party member work?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would you want to?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        THEY EXIST OKAY TRANS RIGHTS THATS RIGHT

        Take sylvando from dq11 just never mention the state of trans awareness.

        sylvando isn't gay or trans. he's just the f word

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, that's why he's based af. He's sylvando 1st, gay 2nd.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you insist
          daily will save or they rope themselves, DC = character level x d10

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Take sylvando from dq11 just never mention the state of trans awareness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on setting. But since we're in fantasy, I don't really see a problem with, say, they had their soul forcibly put in the wrong body and suffer a painful dysphoria for it.
      Could be a regular trick played by an evil god to increase suffering across the world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick this c**t for hurting not only a completely defenseless person who looked up to him, but also best girl [male]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ranma 1/2 but he actually gets off from changing back and forth rather than being annoyed by it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how would you make a trans protagonist or party member work?
      What's there to make work, really? Make them a good character first and layer on the trans context later if you really want it.

      The vast majority of people only have issues with trannies because the only examples anons even encounter are obnoxious attention prostitutes and those are insufferable regardless of gender.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Goblin king brainswaps with a beautiful elf that joins your party. The beautiful elf's original body is slain so they have to teach the original beautiful elf male etiquette and dress her goblin body up in a fancy suit so that they can walk around in cities without everyone trying to maul her to death.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this

      Depends on setting. But since we're in fantasy, I don't really see a problem with, say, they had their soul forcibly put in the wrong body and suffer a painful dysphoria for it.
      Could be a regular trick played by an evil god to increase suffering across the world.

      and have their motivation be trying to find a wizard and the money to pay him in order to transmute their body permanently.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like that guy from ripleys believe it not that wanted to be a lizard or whatever, but instead it's a dude who identifies as an elf or a dragon or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just the Michael Jackson getup but with fantasy species

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some wizard dude hired a poor thief to test a really complicated spell on, he accept because it pays well
      the spell turns out to polymorph something permanently, the target form was a "daughterwife" and this has been done several times before to several people who wouldn't be missed
      place gets raided, the girls get rescued and the thief has to deal with the fact that he can get dispelled into a little girl by a wizard or anti-magic at any time

  116. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A wheelchair-pushing golem or some kind of force construct that isn't very good for combat but is in charge of pushing the mage around and carrying their chair up and down stairs sounds cool

  117. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is losing an arm so much cooler than losing a leg?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Losing an arm sucks but losing a leg is an entire shift in your body. All of your balance needs to be readjusted to cope with the loss of a leg, it's just not the same like losing an arm.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but in shows and movies, it's always the cool guy who loses an arm. if you lose a leg in a video game anime or movie, you're the veteran or support guy in the background lol

        Correct, that's why he's based af. He's sylvando 1st, gay 2nd.

        i meant fabolous....

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Robot arm: fricking cool. Very useful.
      One robot leg: off balance this is weird
      Two robot legs: fricking cool run 30 mph.

  118. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that I think about it, seeing someone in a wheelchair is pretty rare. Last time I remember seeing one was over a decade ago I saw a soldier in a wheel chair.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because people who can't use their legs tend to stay at home.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But OP's picture shows they're capable enough to fight in dungeons.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow it's almost like OP's picture isn't a depiction of real life, nor is it trying to be. Hopy shitt.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          homie people in wheelchairs get stopped by a curb you think the tomb of the dark lord jizzslu’rp’e’m is wheelchair compliant?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But she has magic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Tell her to use it on herself to cure her legs, and then she can come.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Last time I remember seeing one was over a decade ago I saw a soldier in a wheel chair.
      Prosthetics have gotten pretty good so a whole class of wheelchair-reliant demographic got pretty much nuked.

  119. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just dont make the wheelchair look like it was taken from waltmart

  120. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds pretty based. Next campaign I might play a mermaid that adventures on land in the combat wheelchair.

  121. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's moronic to assume that someone with a wheelchair can traverse dungeons in D&D, and if they use magic or other shit to move around, why not just use it without a wheelchair? Just put the guy on a flying carpet or a clockwork chariot or something, like there's so many creative magical solutions that aren't the lamest form of moving around. I really find it hard to believe that a large majority of wheelchair bound people wouldn't rather at least have something more mobile and convenient, given the choice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm fine with it at like the first few levels when you ain't got the money to waste on a magical mobility scooter but the barbarian is a bro and willing to carry you up/down stairs. Alternatively if it's a setting with Masquerade rules, so you just can't use that magical mobility scooter all the time without the inquisition putting you on a pike.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I could see a wheelchair being useful in cities and such, in case the cripple wizard is a bit of a cheeky bastard and intentionally wants to cultivate an aura of "frail old man do not pay attention"

      Then some thugs try to mug him and that wheelchair suddenly grows 8 tentacles, 4 of which crawl it up the wall, 4 others choke the life out of said muggers

  122. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lepers, misshapen uggos, hobbled old cripples and comatose girls are all common fantasy tropes, but okay.

  123. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Think of all the disabled powerful brave artists that this person put out of business by generating the image with AI instead. So bigoted.

  124. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes?
    I don't see the issue with it? webm related.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that b***hy "what gives" look
      >him grinning down from the wall
      Too kino

  125. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IF YOU HAVE MAGIC WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A DISABILITY? I CAST <FIX moron>

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cast it on yourself first.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I already did, that's how I realized that in a fantasy world where magic exists, it's just a matter of eliminating the very issue of disability with magic. What a frickin genius I am.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You and every other moron who's never actually read enough fantasy to realize that each setting has its own limitations on magic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ohhhh now I see, wheelchairs are exempt from D5 set on, my mistake. Keep trying to move the goalposts frickin nerd.

  126. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Thomas Covenant
    >San Dan Glokta
    >the cripples in Elantris
    >Tyrion Lannister
    Do you homosexuals even read?
    There are plenty of cripples in fantasy. They're usually not cute girls fighting in modern wheelchairs though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And then there's all the original fairytales
      >Ariel crippled because she cannot walk
      >loses the ability to talk
      >Snow White paralyzed
      >Thorn Rose comatose

  127. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course. The problem in that picture is with the modern-looking wheelchair, not the fact that she can't walk.

  128. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not in a world with powerful and readily available healing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >powerful and readily available healing.
      Can healing in your fantasy setting make limbs grow back? If it can't, there's no reason why it should help a person who can't walk because their neural system was damaged too much to properly regenerate itself. I always assumed that healing in most fantasy settings worked by accelerating natural processes that happened in the human body so it could only heal wounds that would eventually heal on their own.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that or healing magic requires rare ingredients or rarely obtained divine blessings

  129. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate this Burger King Kids Club bullshit. I'm a fat frick. I don't want to play a fat frick in video games. If I were in a wheelchair I wouldn't want to play some wheelchair hero or what-the-frick ever. By all means, lets include more cripples where they're making a living in a way where their disability isn't stopping them from living but 100% they're not going to be rolling around in a modern fricking wheelchair swinging a sword.

  130. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of horribly powerful curse is a disability in that setting that a bit of magic can't cure it?
    It's all about masturbatory representation, they don't care about "the setting", in any magic setting a mage would have I don't know, fricking mind-controlled magic socks that can move their legs or a magic carpet or anything other than a chair with wheels that can't traverse 95% of terrain in a fantasy setting.
    Even a sort of Caramon/Raistlin combo would be better, let your giant warrior brother or friend carry your useless body around since your mind is the importan thing, anything than a fricking wheelchair.

  131. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in my first dnd campaign (the dm was the only one who haf played before) the paladin got both his arms cut off so his god gave him a spiked helmet and spiked boots and out half orc fighter would throw him into enemies who he would then kick. we didnt get that far before getting wiped for murderhoboing but it was fun while it lasted. gifts from gods or rich backgrounds can make disabilities interesting, for instance a crip with no legs whose family got him a magic carpet and he ran away to become an adventurer because frick you dad, can levitate but if hes knocked off hes helpless until a party member takes a turn or two to get him back on it.

  132. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read Thomas Covenant
    It's literally about a paraplegic vegetable who gets isekai'd
    and instantly beats and rapes the first girl he meets because lmao this is probably a dream anyway

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >paraplegic vegetable
      No he's just a leper in a literal and metaphoric sense, scorned by all and constantly checking everything he does to make sure he doesn't catch himself on something. He doesn't just rape the village girl because he thinks it's a dream, it's sensory overload from being able to truly feel again
      And obviously being given this chance and doing that with it is a pillar of the story, how can he acknowledge this world as real after what he's done

      Good taste though, the first Chronicles of Thomas Covenant are pure kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >paraplegic vegetable
      No he's just a leper in a literal and metaphoric sense, scorned by all and constantly checking everything he does to make sure he doesn't catch himself on something. He doesn't just rape the village girl because he thinks it's a dream, it's sensory overload from being able to truly feel again
      And obviously being given this chance and doing that with it is a pillar of the story, how can he acknowledge this world as real after what he's done

      Good taste though, the first Chronicles of Thomas Covenant are pure kino

      I am 95% certain bethesda originally ripped off the Bloodguard for their Redguard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Isekai kino
      Impressive. I never heard about it in all those "isekai bad" Ganker shit threads. Any more recs?

  133. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    johnny got his gun

  134. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Disabilities in a setting with magic
    >Cleric casts Greater Restoration
    >pika.jpg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Greater Restoration does not restore lost body parts, you need to go up to Regenerate for that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dwarf loses autism and is just a normal manlet now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cleric casts Greater Restoration
      You actually need a 7th level spell to repair lost limbs and such, so good luck finding that Cleric and affording the fee to get him to use that spell slot on you

  135. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In a world with regen magic so effective that it can reattach or regrow limbs, the only way to justify disability would be if it is a curse or hex of some greater kind.
    That also means that there's high possibility of curing it. Eventually.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In a world with regen magic so effective that it can reattach or regrow limbs
      Who said that was the case?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In a world with regen magic so effective that it can reattach or regrow limbs
      Depends on the setting, and it depends on the availability of the magicians that can actually perform those spells. homies got bills to pay, so you'd need a real altruistic frick to have someone walking around casting powerful regeneration spells for free in the middle of podunk nowhere that is Beginner's Ville.

  136. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >blocks your path

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hey DM, you know mind if I carry a sack of dirt and use Mold Earth to fill in steps and make ramps
      >ehhhhh that's mostly for loose dirt n' shit, would that really help?
      >well it'd be pretty compressed, and Shape Water could just make ice ramps, but I like this for my character more
      >frick it, treat it as difficult terrain if you do and know I'll probably tip you down the stairs sometime
      >cool, thanks

  137. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >autosage
    wtf

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