>China is so fed up with Blizzard they’re making their own WoW killer
WoWbros, it’s over
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>China is so fed up with Blizzard they’re making their own WoW killer
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Does it have cute girls?
Yup
But does it have furries? (no catgirls)
do they have big boobs or is it just an ass fiesta as usual?
it's china. of course it has cute girls
Yes but only censored cute girls. Dont expect too much skin
that's ok, that's what fanart is for.
what did they do to alexstraza and the banshee queen?
>meanwhile Blizzard is going to bankrupt itself attempting to make a Genshin clone
toppest kek
The whole appeal of genshin is in the cute girls, blizzard isn’t going to be able to pull it off with how butt ugly their females have been lately.
This, Blizzard doesn't have the balls to make cute girls again. They were the kings of coom back in the day.
Yeah good luck to the diversity hire "designers"
I would like to agree but kiriko from overwatch is a literal semen demon.
nuOverwatch is full of uggos. There is no hope for Blizzard.
>nuOverwatch is full of uggos.
sounds fitting since they want to compete with genshin
>could have picked any of the coomdumpsters from overwatch
>picked the most bland of the bunch
I thought blizzard was trying to recreate Africa in Azeroth.
id that the sruvival game they want to make 10 years after survival games were a thing?
its releasing on mobile. dont be fooled by the trailer
yea watch some gameplay and it will quickly kill any hype you might have had
How many WoW killers are there? Dozens? Hundreds?
Just one: blizzard.
It killed itself so hard it's the #1 played MMO in the world.
And after the 23rd?
Chinese players will just switch to other servers.
Most concurrent players and subscribers.
they havent announced subscribers for years now and they never announced sales numbers, it is not.
Sorry bros, it's the most played MMO in the world. You can't refute this.
Not really impressive when the entire MMO genre hasn't changed since Everquest. MMO's are not compatible with today's audience. At least not in their current format of the holy trinity of classes and raiding/dungeons as the only meaningful end game.
What killed MMOs for me is how linear the newer ones are.
I remember playing one long ago where it would automatically do everything for you except kill monsters. You just needed to click next many times and wait until the character walked by itself to the monster zone so you could kill them, then repeat.
You are describing mobile MMOs. They are a whole new different breed of MMOs aimed specifically at the most absolute braindead people that WANT their games to be pay2win and WANT their games to play themselves. It's fricking mindboggling.
I'm speaking of more than 10 years ago, and that was only for the first 20 levels.
I had no idea mobile MMOs were like that but I'm not surprised.
I don't mind the story AS LONG AS THEY DON'T FORCE IT ON ME.
Checked.
There is too much emphasis on the player and not the world. I think this is a problem more on the Western side of MMOs but for decades now they have been deemphasizing the importance of good story telling and immersion. In WoW's case, you have to realize they decided to cater to people who only cared about flexing on nerds with the best gear and who didn't even know any of the lore or zones outside of "this is the place you farm that mat." They removed the RPG from MMO and focused on the competitive aspect of the game which is why Blizzard players always complain about toxicity.
You don’t have the numbers to prove that.
it really isnt.
Underrated
>FF clone
I’m good
Let this be a lesson to western companies, whenever you deal with the chinks they are already planning on how to ripoff everything you do.
It's amazing how they got away with it with Genshin Impact. The base game was straight-up BotW assets.
i dont think you know what assets are
>all the world's textures
>grass physics
>games engine
>UI design
>enemy mechanics
>glide mechanics
>character models (reskinned and skeleton reworked)
Call it what you want, you have to be delusional if you think they made all of that from scratch.
Genshin uses the Unity engine and BOTW uses a proprietary engine made by Nintendo, you are moronic. they do not have access to Nintendo's assets nor did they use any of them, you can say they stole ideas or copied but thats not what an asset flip is
>BOTW uses a proprietary engine made by Nintend
I thought it used Unreal Engine like most of Nintendo's other games made for the Switch.
>like most of Nintendo's other games made for the Switch.
I'm pretty sure that's not the case as well anon
>they do not have access to Nintendo's assets
If you really believe that you are very naive.
Samegay genshin troony. You can easily rip models and other assets from Nintendo games.
You want me to believe that lawsuit bawd Nintendo saw the chinks use assets literally ripped from their game and didn't do anything about it? Lol
Yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible but maybe miHoYo cut a deal with Nintendo. Maybe they really just painstakingly re-engineered BoTW to avoid being sued. It really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't sue anyway. Nintendo has sued fan games that were completely new projects with no proprietary assets. Also, it could just be that they didn't want to piss off China like Blizzard and get kicked out.
not the same person nor am i defending genshin i dont play that trash but calling it an asset flip is factually wrong and you are moronic.
>asset flip is factually wrong
Where is it wrong? Do you have proof they made all of those assets from scratch? They have done far worse than that before in other industries. Chinese are known for stealing IPs.
>you have to prove my conspiracy right because.... well just becasue, okay??
show 1 (one) singular identical asset in a side by side comparison
I played the fricking game, I have eyes. The starting zone alone is almost identical to the starting zone BotW the monsters you fight in early zones. The fire/wind physics and the flight mechanics. Not saying it's impossible to mimic this from scratch but you have to be an absolute shill to say there's no way they didn't asset flip. Again, I have no proof it's a flip but I strongly believe it was built on a ported version of BotW.
This is the best you could come up with?
Not a single asset in either picture is identical.
>I have no proof
All I needed to hear.
Try again, or eternally seethe lmao
Keep wasting money on your BotW ripoff genshin troony. Imagine thinking the Chinese wouldn't ripoff a game. Fricking morons.
Yet again, no identical assets.
You claimed an asset flip, fail to show a single identical asset, and goalpost shift by showing "similarities" rather than ripped assets.
Go get mad about Immortals: Phoenix Rising while you're at it
>money
Ah, the real reason, poorcope.
Stay mad
>"similarities"
Not the guy you are arguing with, but shit like in
goes beyond calling it "similarities". That shit is straight up ripping it off and making something 99% similar.
Right, it's obvious the game copied a ton and was """heavily inspired""" by BoTW.
But it's not an asset flip by definition.
The game has also moved way past that with all the gameplay systems introduced since.
Some of that isn't in the game anymore IIRC, but yeah look back to 2018 for the earliest Genshin gameplay and it looks way closer to BOTW than it is now. I think you can't light the grass on fire for an updraft anymore.
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWFsgPVvGbA
Again, my theory is that they ported BotW to Unity and heavily modified it. I believe the foundation for the Genshin engine is using BotW and most of the assets are modified Nintendo assets from BotW. I know you are a Genshin shill and my saying this isn't going to stop them from releasing expansions and new content. The ship has sailed, but yeah I think it's a knockoff and I'd go as far as saying they flipped most of the assets.
at this point you're literally saying they reverse engineered the entirety of BotW so they could repackage it as a completely different game with surface-level similarities, something that would've taken more effort than just eyeballing what they wanted from it and then making it from scratch
Sadly there's no use in talking to a schizo that believes mihoyo somehow deobfuscated an entire commercially released game, or that Nintendo decided to cut a deal with a random chinese company that hadn't seen insane levels of success
Truly boggles the mind
This.
In order to port BOTW to Unity, you would need the source code of the game, which is locked behind Nintendo's doors. If you don't have the source code then you need to spend years decompiling the game to reverse engineer it. Next you would need to take this decompiled code and port it over to function on Unity, which uses C#. You would also need to spend a few hours or days reading their Nintendo's code to understand how it works and how to modify it as intended so it wouldn't break or have bugs. It's way easier to just eyeball it and copy BotW by making the mechanics yourself.
There's a reason why we only got SM64 in games like Sonic Generations or GMod AFTER the SM64 source code got leaked (24 years after the game got released on N64).
Imagine what could've been if that r*dditor uploaded the Starcraft source code instead of giving it back to blizz
Genshin heavily copied Nintendo's homework but they have absolute zero issue creating their "heavily inspired" art assets. If anything they get their assets ripped off 1:1.
Oh, you are right about the character models and the design for the gacha characters. I was thinking about monsters and the drops. They don't look identical to the BotW critters but they look like they just slapped on a different texture, bump map and call it a day. Again, I could be completely wrong and it's entirely made from scratch.
Only Mondstadt is a blatant Botw copy. Inazuma and Sumeru they have greatly departed from Botw in many ways. They've created tons new enemies.
Genshin Impact almost certainly took some ideas from BotW. It's a successful game that released while Genshin would have been in development.
Claiming that BotW invented burning grass, swimming or robotic enemies with weak points is extremely dumb though.
>ERM ACKTUALLY zelda invented things like burning grass, caves and robots shooting beams. No game had that because NINTEEEEENDOOOOO put it in zelda
the state of nintencultists
this was the early beta ruin guards don't even shoot lasers, they shoot homing missiles. genshin beta was an actual botw ripoff right down to the broken piano """music""" nintenbros used for the game. released genshin has an actual score since they're clearly not as lazy as bingtendo
Bro that shit in your pic doesn't even exist in-game, the chests literally dont look like that lmao
This pic is literally from the game though.
It's from early beta, none of that shit looks like that in-game anymore.
Yes and the fact that they changed a lot of that after they started to get attention from people suspicious of the source for their code.
I don't know why you guys think it's such a leap to say they stole the assets. Until recently the Switch and before that the WiiU were made in China. They could have easily gotten hold of a devkit or paid off some employee and gotten access to Nintendo's code. I mean, just recently someone dumped all of Rockstar's assets for GTA6. As I said, it's a bit naive to think the Chinese aren't capable or wouldn't dare steal from Nintendo because they are known for being so litigious. Laws and lawsuits have never prevented China from stealing what they want.
your schizo theory is much more of a leap than a bunch of chink code monkeys making a game on unity that also happens to rip off a bunch of other games they liked
>sources for their code
What the frick are you talking about, you sound more idiotic by the second.
Can you code? If so, do you not realize how stupid that sounds?
It would be way easier to create BotW from scratch then it would be to rip the assets and then somehow access and deobfuscate the source code
Did you read my post? What would stop a Nintendo employee from leaking the devkit, compiler, and source code for a game like BoTW?
You can already make your own Genshin private server and play the game for free with all the characters. It's up to date with the latest patches too.
I've read your schizo rants multiple times throughout the thread
Conspiracies are impossible to prove, which is the point. Morons get attached to them and believe them at face value.
Call it what you want. It's entirely plausible, I don't care if you believe me. The Chinese have set a precedent for this type of behavior. They aren't going to bother reverse-engineering the game if they can get the source code from one of the developers for a couple of million.
Again, the path of least resistance is to just code a rip off of the game themselves.
It would be way easier and cheaper than jumping through all these hoops and spending millions on some supposed rogue Nintendo employee that is high enough on the corporate ladder to have access to the entirety of the source code
Ridiculous
>Ridiculous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_intellectual_property_theft_by_China
99% of chinese "IP theft" is looking at publicly available patents and manufacturing shit based on that, not reverse engineering bing bing wahoo code to make a bing bing wahoo game
I know you are being dense for the sake of arguing, but there are numerous accounts of Chinese nationals working for International Enterprises and leaking or stealing confidential IPs. It is how the Chinese have managed to be so competative in the tech industry. They don't have the time to build that industry up from the ground up so they just steal what the rest of the world makes and release their own slightly altered version of it. They do this for almost everything.
currently the most moronic post on the board
average tendiemutt poster intellect
>another Asian "WoW killer"
Remember how Lost Ark was forgotten in less than a month?
Name ONE: 1 UNO A SINGLE good chinese made game.
chinese checkers
yea making games is the one thing china is actually good at, they just didn't learn how to code until like 5 years ago
I mean their language is also very mathematical.
>posts go
>china
>game that has an objectively better Japanese ruleset
The japanese ruleset is almost identical to the original chinese one, nice try. I'll never understand weeb tribalism, every culture has it's strengths and weaknesses.
>chess ruleset is almost identical to checkers the post
I bet you fill in your own eyes, Wang.
You should try actually playing Go first you poser homosexual
Says the homosexual with a 9x9 board and 6 handicaps.
you seem like the type of guy who shows up to a mahjong game with riichi sticks and gets laughed out of the parlor by real asians
>mahjong game
>laughed out of the parlor by real asians
>playing a game for senile old men and alcoholics
Not the own you think it is, anon-kun.
>playing a game for senile old men and alcoholics
but enough about dota 2
Ngl, good comeback.
Good Gweilo!
u mad?
no feet. no wish.
How much of this am I able to see before the game starts demanding extra shekels from me?
all of it
I've been playing since closed beta and have almost all of the strongest 5* characters
Have never spent a dime on the game and never will
You get enough premium currency to guarantee yourself whoever you want because the game actually has a pity system unlike FGO
You can enjoy all of the world without paying a dime. Characters you can get consistently if you save for a couple of months. Do recommend rerolling for a 5* or buying an account with a character you like to save a shit ton of rolls if you care about enjoying the game with a particular character.
You can see all of it if you can stand the dialogue that drags on for too long and other shitty gacha and mobile game features. The art direction and music is probably genshin's strongest aspect.
who do you think the main antagonist will be? im guessing a giant escalator, possibly a lathe.
>WoW killer
You mean FFXIV?
No they mean WoW
good nublizz needs to die
>chinese mmo
Yeah no thanks. WoW's popularity half killed MMOs and then the asiatic MMOs finished it off with their p2w and ultra glowy idiot neon trash wings and "fashion"
ok but whats the point when wow pretty much just rides on the coattails of nostalgia?
who would play this?
>they’re making their own WoW killer
they literally stole wow assets for this game, andknowing the chinks this shit is going to play the same too with more microtransactions
>another clear-sky orianted chinkshit environment with nonseical Magical Architecture everywhere
bugman morons cover their entire country in a coal smog and forget how mundane being able to see the sky is for any other country lmao
Why would someone play this generic anime magitech fantasy slop when they could play 14?
>Why would someone play this generic anime magitech fantasy slop when they could play generic anime magitech fantasy slop
ff14 is even more shit
I'm more shocked they didn't have something ready to go the instant the wow servers went down.
bugmen MMO's will always be shit.
>male characters with sensible porportions as opposed to tank man little leg porportions
frick yes
This looks fricking abysmal. It would probably have been 10x better if they didn't focus on making it mobile-friendly.
You simply cannot make a game in China that isn't mobile-friendly or doesn't have pay-to-win microtransactions.
>implying literally millions of normies won't be playing this shit on their break at work.
better looking than angry birds and candy crush and all the other shit they play now
>That music
The first 5 minutes sounds so similar to some of the music you hear in Ashenvale. There's no way it's not plagiarized like crazy.
lol. It really is a WoW Clone. Down to even the character, amor, and monster design language.
LMAO they even made a compilation of WoW cinematics, they even copied the new dragon riding. These sneaky frickers had this in the works for years. They always had plans to give Blizzard the boot. God, it feels so fricking good seeing a decade of Blizzard shilling for China blow up in their face. Greedy fricking idiots.
>These sneaky frickers had this in the works for years
That's what Asians (chinks are just the latest group doing it) have been doing for decades. They bend over to western companies and promise them to produce whatever they want for few pennies, all while learning the manufacturing process and industrial secrets required to create countless copies of every product that are later sold at a much lower price than the original (because they don't have to pay licenses, patents or middle men). The cheap copies eventually flood the market and dethrone the originals, who are too expensive to compete. Nips did this and they replaced burgers and yuros in the top 10 of electronics, and years later asiatics did the same to nips once nip brands became "premium", and now chinks are doing it to everyone at the same time because the israelites ruling the first world decided to put all the factories in China and Taiwan.
>God, it feels so fricking good seeing a decade of Blizzard shilling for China blow up in their face. Greedy fricking idiots.
Just about everyone in the west who made a spectacle of simping for Chinabux in the past decade is absolutely eating shit for it in one big way or another if they haven't already in the past few years. I would not want to be the guy(s) right now, who convinced all these entertainment companies in the 2010s that there was totally a huge gold rush just waiting to be tapped in China. Though then again he's probably not the guy who told these companies to also be arrogant underestimating greedy fricks about it, nor to abandon their current audiences, nor to foolishly try having their cake with western woke pandering and eat it too with Chinese pandering. The israelite fears the xia.
>non pozzed wow
>non pozzed
They're coofed, not pozzed.
Classic tencent, if you don't cooperate with them, they'll make one of their own
>Tencent
>killing anything
Kek, even FFXIV couldn't kill WOW, dream on, chinks
>I don't know what numbers are
Yeah. That amount of cope is dangerous, anon
Can someone just recommend a good mmo for an eq and swg chad looking for a new mmo. Please bros.
Runescape solved the mmo genre in 2001
Every system is unbeaten even today
I much prefer OSRS but RS3 is fine for what it is
There are none right now if you aren't into WoW/FFXIV/ESO. Some upcoming MMOs in the future:
Throne and Liberty(soon)
Archeage 2(maybe late 2023)
Zenimax Online's next MMO(no information)
Aion 2(maybe late 2023)
Corepunk(maybe late 2023)
Palia(no information)
Blue Protocol(2023 for sure)
Ashes of Creation(probably 2025)
Riot's MMO(probably 2025)
Dune: Awakening(no information)
Playable Worlds(no information)
Profane(no information)
Starkeepers(maybe 2023?)
Soulframe(probably 2025)
Ashfall(late 2023)
BitCraft(no information)
Project LLL(2024)
Transformers Rise(semi-MMO ala Destiny, but not sure if it's cancelled or what the frick is going on with it)
>Zenimax Online's next MMO(no information)
because ESO did so well
>Ashes of Creation(probably 2025)
The Multi level marketing scheme that the devs promise will be great because its old school Reminds me of every korean grinder just devloped in the west.
>Dune: Awakening(no information)
People still have faith in Funcom?
>Riot's MMO(probably 2025)
The clearly have the most money to waste on an MMO and enough lore. Really depends on what Ghostcrawler wants to make
>rest of the list
Aion 2 with less awful grind could be intersting. But ill never learn my lession with KGrinders apperntly. Archage 2 is the same
ESO is dogshit but it's one of the most played MMOs today because of consolegays
rofl, great, a chink mmo. can't wait to play a worse copy of a 20yo game.
Sauce?
Japan.
I want a mecha mmorpg
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simply amazing how much genshit has made shittendo™ bootlickers seethe ever since it released
cant wait for more chinese companies making better rip offs than shittendo™
roco kingdom already looks mules better than pookeMA'AM
*sipschoccy* mmmmwwwaaaahh
Call me when China makes a knockoff of OSRS
Just wait until genshit is hacked and play for free. Imagine paying for gacha lmaoooo. Also mmo looks like ass no shortstacks no play. Pozzed and censored garbage already
It has been, for a while now.
Grasscutter is the name of the private server tool.
No one really cares about it.
>brooo imagine playing the game without its main carrot on a stick
>wasting money on pixels
I mean, it's a weird flex.
>Just wait until genshit is hacked and play for free
Wtf ru talking about you poor delusional boypussy brain? You can literally just dl the game right fricking now, play it, grind and get the characters on rng chance. It take time, I know because is what I'm doing, but never ever put a single dime on it!
Just say you got aids, senpai
China won.
>make up 1/7th of the world population
>make 4 games worth playing in total
If we got more games like Dyson Sphere Program from China rather than Genshin-shit I'd not mind at all.
>chink mobile game mmo
i too wish for world of trooncraft to die, but this won't do shit. No actual human will play that game.
If it has good dungeons, fun items and hot elf girls it'll be a success.
They are making an MMO dude
>good dungeons
Is an MMO, enjoy your corridors and one or two big rooms
>fun items
Meta shit
>Hot elf girls
Doubt they will be called "elfs", but sure, that's a must
I think the fact that Blizzard ruined every ounce of good will and customer relations they had with their core userbase in order to chase the Chinese market, just for them to be kicked out and replaced by their Chinese overlords, to be the single most karmic thing to happen in modern video game industry.
We will be laughing about this 20 years into the future. People will write books about it. It's the SEGA of our generations.
100% chance they literally stole the entire engine and most of the assets and there is nothing Blizzard can do about it. That's usually what happens in Asia. Like that F2P Counterstrike that is literally just 1:1 of Counterstrike 1.6
Why would anyone steal WoW's engine, that piece of shit can't even handle 10 people in the same spot without the servers exploding
Because it's China and they are making a WoW replacement that will innevitably be shilled to the """"west"""" as a WoW killer. Plus it's China. They have no creativity left. It's either WoW or any number of derivatives that will get repurposed.
>crying about creativity in the context of WoW
>crying
You are sorely moronic.
write books about how acti-blizz about 2 decades ago merged yada yada yada they got kicked out and
lots of fans are boycotting acti-blizz
>bow down to chinks for high profits
>piss them off and they'll rip your games quicker than shit
>not a thing you can do
getting cucked by the chinaman and pissing off israelites has got to be the funniest shit
Blizzard is dead and is literally a shell company sock puppeted by m$. All of blizz games are on life support/maintenance mode. China is too red pilled to pay full price blizz/ms demanded
It looks like shovelware.
>china might just ban blizzard games entirely
Would this kill blizzard?
No but it's going to hurt badly.
>no because muh only 5% chinese playerbase!!!!!
But how much money and time have they put into trying desperately to massively increase that proportion?
>Tarisland
Can they get a person that speaks English to create their titles? Tarisland? What the frick is that shit.
Why the frick does anybody still care about Blizzard? It's been 18 years since WoW launched. Grow up.
>not enjoying kicking/mocking a loudmouth butthole while he's down for once in his life
Overwatch was pretty good for the first year until they shat the bed and let it die. D4 will probably be fairly good too(assuming they actually keep up with trying to copy PoE's seasons ever 3 months).
Couldn't they make it more unique looking instead of being a direct ripoff?
>Implying China can make anything that isn't a ripoff
Lmao
But Tencent's Riot is developing an MMO for years now?
I hope Riot's recent security breacher leaks something about the game because i am tired of the scaredy cats at Riot.
>Playing Chinkslop