This is horizontal, not an improvement. Don't see why people can't be happy with what they have. What's actually bad is her wrinkly skin/body hence "frog."
The gith features make her exotic and unique. They act as Hispanice to the traditionally desirable thick lips, big expressive eyes and god-tier bone structure.
>I think it's her sense of loyalty that really makes me see her as attractive.
I counted on that very same loyalty when I turned into tentacleman for her people, and look where that got me...
Miss me with that manbat shit. I already edited out her tattoos, nose and skin color + used a mod to make her body smooth like a human's. The last two things on the list are ears and teeth but I'm dogshit with Blender.
It isn't. You can be attractive without filters and makeup. Blacked'zel is just ugly and gross and frogfags just try to convince others she isn't. Shadowcuck is also a filthy whore, but at least Shadowfags can cling to her passable looks. Frogfags just love an ugly whore.
>unshaved arms
I, male, will bravely face her, at great risk to myself, in combat aka frog style, to determine the dominant person. This contest will quickly be concluded, after which, she will shave her arms and take a bath. I have filled the bath with 23 containers of Green Food Dye, and I will ensure that she soaks for at least 2 hours.
Yeah, once you learn to read her face it's no problem. But that overstretched, wrinkly yet taut skin is unacceptable. One or the other I could understand, but both?
You have to side with the goblins, just talk to her in the goblin camp without killing them. I don't think you actually get her until act 2 though like Halsin
You gotta side with the goblins and kill everyone in the Druid Grove. Wyll will leave your party if you do that and so will Karlach, assuming you've recruited her already. Gale will try as well, but can be convinced to stay. You cannot be joined by Halsin either but this is kind of a net positive, as he's dead weight at best.
Why do people keep spreading these blatant lies?
All you have to do is not kill her. >Do Shadow Druids quest >Kill Gut and the Hobgoblin >Ignore Minthara >You lose Halsin, the Tieflings, and Karlach's romance >You keep Karlach and Wyll >Minthara literally has voicelines for every companion other than Halsin
Wtf i slaughtered every single soul in the druid grove and the refugee camp and im still stuck with this moron. This game is buggy af. Maybe i bonk him if my dark urges conveniently command me to do so
How did you slaughter them?
I think he leaves if you actually initiate the attack on the grove with Minthara.
If you actually go and manually kill everyone BEFORE the attack, results may vary.
>tell her I don't want to fuck anymore because I want to romance someone else >she tells me I have left her with a scar in her heart that will never heal >feel so bad I reload the save and romance her instead
ENDING: why can't we go with lae'zel on the dragon? i let her go but she was so devastated that i reload the save to make her stay with us, but th ending felt rushed
Larian always fucks up the final act of their games unfortunately. DoS I was a trainwreck before the Definitive Edition completely redid it. DoS II wasn't much better.
The endings are always abrupt and relatively unsatisfying compared to the stuff that happens earlier in the game. Like they do such a good job building up the world but they can't build up the main plot all that well. What made DoS2 really bad was the companions with Malady channelling that orb at the end. Like I understand why the fight had to go like that without them but man it wasn't great.
It's just unfortunate they wrote Malady to be so cool but for gameplay purposes you can't have her fight with you at all, which makes no sense given how much of a stake she has in everything. The first game's story was rather plain. But the thing is, the mediocre landing is really the only thing wrong with their games. Everything else from the gameplay to the writing before the end is rather nice. It feels like a game in a land of magical horseshit, like the trapped chest in Fort Joy was just delightful.
Final Fantasy Tactics, Thronebreaker, Nier Automata, Last of Us, Tales from the Borderlands
I don't want to debate that list. I don't fucking care if someone disagrees with me.
Endings are hard because nobody plans shit. Shows and books have shit endings because they don't even have an ending in mind at the beginning or even half way through the series. People say Breaking Bad was good and they're just fucking wrong because the ending was only written for the last season, every season before that was just making up shit as they went along.
It's weird that the game lets you save pretty much everything and everyone except Karlach and Astarion. There's no way to fix Karlach's heart (really making all the infernal metal the game throws at you in Act 3 useless) and Astarion always gets a shitty ending unless you let him ascend, which turns him into a power-hungry asshole.
It's probably technically better story writing not to be able to make everything pristine but as far as I know these are the only examples of when you can't
I unironically like that you can't save Karlach. Bad things happen to good people. It's a tragedy and she has a clear choice:
Remain and die or return to hells. It's bittersweet and shows that we can't get everything we wish for always.
Astarion is beyond redemption anyway. He's there to be the "evil" companion. One of the better written ones, of course. But letting him ascend is a very, very bad idea.
Astarion actually changes a lot into a better person depending on what you say to him and what you do around him. A big example being when you don't make him bite the blood-obsessed drow against his wishes. He's spurned by 200 years of physical and mental abuse and you can unironically "fix" him throughout the game. So it was sad to know he can't have a good life without throwing that all away.
I'd assume Minthara is more stalwart in her evilness.
Minthara is pretty damn evil considering her actual background and fact she comes from ruthless drow aristocracy.
She does actually have limits. She hates every instance of senseless killing and losing control. She does also have soft spots. Especially for the player character.
I just wish it was more worth it :/
I lost every tiefling related questline, Halsin, Wyll and Karlach over it. Alongside their questlines.
Just for her to not have a personal quest in act 2/3 and have lackluster amount of reactions :/
It does make me very happy tho that she has lines for picking up Dribbles' body parts. Always so hilarious.
>I unironically like that you can't save Karlach.
Vanilla DnD is basically a Marvel-style setting where you absolutely can have a goody ending where everyone is saved.
I like consequences of actions and stories that don't necessarily end in best ways possible. Karlach reflects the fact that you can be absolutely lovely person, yet have horrible things done to you and later either compromise or die free.
I do know a lot of people wish for happy endings but you can't have it all by magically waving the wand of convenience and fixing everything.
It is still quite sad that Karlach had it happen to her.
>I unironically like that you can't save Karlach.
This is fucking retarded. you are happy there is LESS choice? there are so many hook lines that SHOULD be explored to get a good ending with karlach. the current endings would still be there if you didnt bother TRYING to save karlach. The gondians made the heart karlach has and have innovated multiple times. How about asking them for help? nahhh. Okay how about Raphael?? you could make a deal with him for hel- nahhh. okay fuck it i break into his house save hope and kill him now a powerful cleric owe's me a favor lets ask her to use divine intervention to save karla- nah. Okay well gale has a scroll of true resurrection we can just use that to save karlac- nah. okay there is a infernal forge with dammon and a TON of infernal iron and improved infernal iron surely we can fix karlach's heart with thi- nah. it's just bullshit. all of the points should have been scrubbed if we were never going to persue them to save karlach.
lmao your waifu is getting spitroasted by imps and Zariel is laughing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
bro make it realistic at least.
zariel herself would have to TRY to fuck karlach with the build i got going on. but she not the waifu. they gave her weird breasts. all the big body tiefling got nasty bolt on tits.
I think it was because they cut an entire area that included her quests so we are stuck with bad endings
Yep thats the prevailing theory. I wish they would just own up that they cut out the upper city and that it's coming soon instead of saying it was NEVER planned when so many quest threads point towards the upper city but just stop?
I am unironically happy that everything doesn't go into the Marvel style of nonsense where everyone gets to live happily ever after.
Bad things happen to good people. She gets presented with tough choice of: Die or go to hells or turn into a mind flayer.
Yes. Yes. You could do SO MUCH with "what if" scenarios but they aren't in the game.
COnsidering this game is huge and not everyone will get everything.
Makes in the end for a better story than just having her heart fixed as all that threat of burning out didn't matter.
okay but you could get your preferred ending even IF they added more endings or continued with the plot points THEY LITTERED ACT 3 with. No one would force you into chosing a happier ending but they really railroad you in this for what reason? I mean i have a similar gripe with the emperor crap. they act like you can kill the emperor early on but it's just a fake out and even during the orpheus reveal AGAIN there is fake choice for what reason?? the game does such a good job at adapting to players choice but in this particular instance it's "nah you need to work with the mindflayer lol"
That being said, Larian is notorious for actually listening to their fans.
There is a very high chance that Karlach gets a good ending and more companions get additional content as game progresses.
Mind you, BG3 hasn't even gotten its first gift bag.
True but larian atm did a very nasty preemptive attack imo. Instead of admitting they were wrong in cutting the uppercity (when it was announced multiple times before release) they went into semantics about what is cut content and when did the idea get shelfed. I HOPE larian does right by it's fans because so far they HAVE been but it's a bit worrying when the whole industry has lashed back on larian. They might move on just so they won't keep btfo the modern game industry,
I am unironically happy that everything doesn't go into the Marvel style of nonsense where everyone gets to live happily ever after.
Bad things happen to good people. She gets presented with tough choice of: Die or go to hells or turn into a mind flayer.
Yes. Yes. You could do SO MUCH with "what if" scenarios but they aren't in the game.
COnsidering this game is huge and not everyone will get everything.
Makes in the end for a better story than just having her heart fixed as all that threat of burning out didn't matter.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but they aren't in the game
but they ARE in the files, we just can't trigger them because they cut the upper city
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well, maybe we'll have in future some content to look forward to?
It isn't the worst thing ever honestly. If enough people want good ending for Karlach, maybe she'll get it.
Mind you, Divinity had 4 short storylines added via 4 Relics of Rivellon and back then Larian didnt have nearly as huge of a backing.
With BG3 and its success, they can think grander.
That being said, Larian is notorious for actually listening to their fans.
There is a very high chance that Karlach gets a good ending and more companions get additional content as game progresses.
Mind you, BG3 hasn't even gotten its first gift bag.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They already brought in her voice actor to add the ending where you join her in Ivernus. I think that's as good of an ending as they're going to give her.
I don't mind, I like the idea of my character going to hell with Karlach.
He's coming at it from a poetic perspective. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and there's no helping it. Like cancer or dementia.
I haven't done her story yet but despite this being Faerun you have to imagine that some things are permanent or beyond the ability for anybody to fix. I mean it's like real life, you get injured and you can't fix it no matter the doctors or money. These fantasy lands have run everything using magic that they've never sat back and figured out shit like quality control. The gods and tyrants of the world don't give a flying fuck about safety because soldiers are basically livestock.
Larian ran out of time and money. It's not okay but basically 99% of media produced nowadays does not fulfill the creator's vision, if such a vision was even good in the first place. And the guy was trying to put a silver lining on Karlach's cut content and spun it in a way that's poetic - sometimes the dog gets rabies and you have to put it down.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Very well said.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
but no one asked for the poetic spin. we get that not everything can be perfect but the community in general wants a happier or better ending for karlach and this anon like many others see the outcry and go.... "hmmm but maybe its better this way actually because blah blah blah. Yup it's good! cope" like what the fuck? you enjoy it cool but the majority don't and being quiet about it wont get anything added or improved.
She is very likely diseased.
I'll be a paladin. they are immune to diseases right?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're illiterate. And what I mean by that is that you can't comprehend what you're reading.
I unironically like that you can't save Karlach. Bad things happen to good people. It's a tragedy and she has a clear choice:
Remain and die or return to hells. It's bittersweet and shows that we can't get everything we wish for always.
Astarion is beyond redemption anyway. He's there to be the "evil" companion. One of the better written ones, of course. But letting him ascend is a very, very bad idea.
>no I cant let my bro who was vital through this whole adventure kill some randos and be able to live a normal life after all this!
Some friends you guys are
I was fine letting him the problem is Larian decided the one time they were going to be pure to D&D lore was the tidbit about how true vampires lose their humanity and become total assholes. For me given that I was helping Astarion be a better person it was night and day.
Whatever people may say, Astarion has actually very well written romance too. Especially if you're playing Dark Urge. Trust me here. Dark Urge with Astarion romance has such very nice moments. Considering 2 monsters meet each other.
Of course, assuming you don't let him Ascend.
Ascended Astarion is a major asshole.
For real, romancing Astarion adds a ton to his character.
People immediately disregard him here because >male romance
but damn if it's not filled with great moments throughout.
No.
Every single character in this game is playersexual.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He gay. Just listen to him talk.
He gay.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you gay, just listen to you talk.
you gay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aye, he does talk in pretty gay way. Regardless though, every character in the game is playersexual.
Which is quite lame. Then again, if they weren't playersexuals, people would shit, piss and cry that you can't romance them.
Even though that's not how actual attraction realistically works.
A lot of people dismiss him because of the >gay bear fucker elf
If you're playing a character, instead of a self insert or something, his character and romance is actually VERY well written. Alongside his character. A lot of thought went into it.
Especially with how Astarion x Dark Urge mirror each other.
Also has some genuinely nice twists in character (like him rejecting astral tadpole most fiercely just like Lae'zel) or having some funny moments.
They did a good job with him.
I agree that DurgexAstarion is probably the best written romance of the bunch.
Also helps his VA fucking knocks it out of the park whenever something Bhaal-related happens to you, he's so thoroughly heartbroken every time.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dark Urge actually succumbing to the urge while romancing Astarion is actually heartbrokingly well written.
I absolutely love that they made Dark Urge as a character. Hands down has one of the best stories in the entire game, motivation, unique choices and ways to play it.
For real, romancing Astarion adds a ton to his character.
People immediately disregard him here because >male romance
but damn if it's not filled with great moments throughout.
can you romance astarion and SH/Laezel? or will they demand you break it off with him
Most characters demand exclusivity after a certain point, including Astarion, who actually is surprised you'd choose him over literally anyone in your party.
Astarion is a selfish asshole. He won't share.
One person that is exclusively fine with you fucking around is actually Shadowheart.
Pick one companion, commit to them.
Or fuck the emperor if you're a weirdo.
>Only well written character
Everyone else’s writing is between retarded, cliche, and edgy teenager. This games only strength is it’s core gameplay and lazy girl.
>It's true to real life. Women in the Army and Marines tend to be whores.
It's gross. Then she expects you to love her after she's probably been run trough by hundreds.
Never met anyone in the military who wasn't a whore.
Just the number of ways you learn everyone faps into their underwear and fucks each other behind hall monitors or on the ships makes it sound like a brotha.
>Act 3 starts >everyone’s questlines are coming to a head at once >tfw get crippling choice paralysis between who’s quest I want to complete and who’s opinion/reactions I want to hear during dialogue
I fucking HATE the 4 person party limit so much.
Take Jaheira to bank, other two don't matter.
Recruit Minsc. Resolve his questline.
Complete murder myster /w Jaheira and Minsc since they have unique dialogue for Saverok.
Complete House of Grief /w Jaheira, Minsc, and Shadowheart.
Do House of Hope with Lae'zel and anyone else.
Do Astarion's questline with him and anyone else.
Do Iron Throne with Wyll and anyone else.
Do Ansur with Wyll and anyone else.
The game is meant to be replayable anon fren. Which holds up. My first run was good sorcerer run.
My second run immediately after finishing first one was dark urge ranger. It felt entirely different. More so with companions I didn't get to use in last run.
>game is meant to be replayable >when even a playthrough that doesn't cover everything is at least a good hundred hours long if not more unless you skip a lot
how
It's easy. Don't try to 100% everything in one run. play your character. Does a potential quest sound like something they wouldn't be interested in? Then don't do it. You're only hurting yourself by XP maxxing, it's capped at level 12 anyway.
Will Gale explode if I leave him in the teleporter
yes, but it won't cause a game over.
idk, I understood it like that the first time I played I think, but based on the IOS game its unlikely they actually fucked. Granted I thought Liara fucked that drell while I was dead the first time I played
Bioware put out a comic to confirm Miranda fucking Jacob.
>Bioware put out a comic to confirm Miranda fucking Jacob.
which comic? pretty gross they would do that to Miri. I know I like Kasumi less because of all the jacob lusting shit. Like I romance Tali and even her making out with Garrus if you don't romance her doesn't bug me, but Miri or Kasumi fucking jacob is disgusting
I yet have to meet a single person who actually liked Jacob.
God, what a fucking piece of shit.
So compared to him, Wyll is a saint. It's just that Wyll suffers from the good guy syndrome which can make him a bit boring.
I hate wyll more than I hate jacob, because jacob actually did things in the game that were functional and useful. All Wyll does is cast counterspell worse than Gale. I won't even give him credit for finding karlach because you could wonder upon Anders on your way to the risen road. All wyll does thoughout the whole game that is positive is give you that dragon quest. If you could get it with him being dead I'd just kick him out/kill him
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wyll is useless
Wyll is a warlock. He isn't supposed to be your counterspell slave. Warlock is very flexible in what it can do. Alternatively just reclass him to be more useful honestly.
On my first run, I reclassed Gale to be n Eldritch Knight. You know, him keeping his magic a bit while being an armored menace with a greatsword.
Alternatively, you can build Wyll to be Dual wielding pact of the Blade warlock. Have him cast Hex, dual wield 2 weapons. Stack barious 1d4 damage bonuses.
Congratulations, he now hits like a truck. Granted, you do have to multiclass into something like Thief rogue for additional bonus action or fighter for actual another action + action surge.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>flexible >only 2 spell slots per short rest
The game already gives you a ton of marshals though with Lae'zel, Karlach, halsin, minithera and shadowheart all being able to front line
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Game also gives you ways to restore those spell slots. Game also actively encourages you to use Eldritch blast and use your skills tactically.
Best way imo is still to play Pact of the Blade and invest in melee.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Best way to play warlock is to use it as a 2-5 level dip and pick up Sorceror, Bard, or Paladin
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I very much liked dipping warlock in thief Rogue. You can 2 attacks, 2 bonus attacks. Stack shitton of 1d4 damage bonuses. Shapeshifter's ring, Acid ring, gloves for extra damage.
Cast Hex, proceed to do buttload of extra damage because of how stacking damage modifiers work.
It's only replayable because you will almost certainly miss content and some stuff is locked.
First time I did Act 2 I completely missed the Light's Hope Inn or w/e it's called and obviously didn't do the Curse questline.
I killed the Drider and everyone at the camp and stole the Moonlantern.
You can also go to the Inn and join the ambush on the Drider or get ambushed if you're escorted by the Drider. You can also ambush the Drider after slaughtering everyone at the camp which makes it look like he's talking to himself more than usual.
I intimidated the drider and his buddies into giving me the lantern and going away. They immediately got fucked by the curse and died screaming. Good laugh
Second run is faster. Because you don't nearly have to explore as much. Since you know how to resolve some of the puzzles, where to get shit, where to find quest objectives etc.
What is different is ways of solving it.
For example, I found out that you get ENTIRELY different interactions if you go to Balthazar first and help him capture Nightstong. Then go to Ketheric where he'll praise you for helping with Nightsong capture. Game has some mad polish at points that accounts for player doing things differently.
Game is polished until Act 3 in my experience then it all falls apart.
Larian has a lot of cleaning up to do in the last third of the game, maybe make the ending not a mess too.
as someone who played through acts 1 and 2 twice, the game is way worse the second time. Knowing where everything is in the underdark makes that whole section a slog where as the first time I played it it was super fun
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>slog
The Underdark is super short unless you fuck around in the upper section of Grymforge.
>game rewards you for hating 80% of the companions
Frogwife, shadowcuck and withers as a dwarf wizard. I dont even want anyone else in my camp, especially not any UGLY FUCKING WHORE BARDS HAHAHAHA
Take Jaheira to bank, other two don't matter.
Recruit Minsc. Resolve his questline.
Complete murder myster /w Jaheira and Minsc since they have unique dialogue for Saverok.
Complete House of Grief /w Jaheira, Minsc, and Shadowheart.
Do House of Hope with Lae'zel and anyone else.
Do Astarion's questline with him and anyone else.
Do Iron Throne with Wyll and anyone else.
Do Ansur with Wyll and anyone else.
your minmaxxing is killing the fun just do a few different playthroughs
You literally have to even if you min/max regardless if you want to find everything and get Minthara
Unless you use a guide you will miss out on a lot of little bread crumbs
No. You can have sex with the frog and start a relationship with Shadowheart, but you'll have to choose one once you decide to go further than a fling.
Do you not see the difference between retconning old lore versus retconning lore you literally just doubled down on last month?
Damn, that doesn't square up with The Emperor, really weird.
Yes, it does. An Illithid might want to be free, that's not exactly new, but they're not the person they consumed. He's not Balduran and he doesn't have a soul.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He's not Balduran and he doesn't have a soul.
Not what the Emperor says, really weird.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He literally lies to you constantly...dude...are you serious right now?
But it does. The Emperor is manipulating your thoughts and perceptions from the beginning. Call him out on it instead of cooperating with him, and he'll show you what he really is. An Illithid like the rest.
>He's not Balduran and he doesn't have a soul.
Not what the Emperor says, really weird.
The Emperor never says he has a soul or that he's Baldurian. He says he identifies strongly with his memories of who he was before, but also mentions how he loves being an Illithid.
More info can be found about how all his old "friends" were actually mind controlled by him.
>Halsin will never commit no matter what. >Gale's always thinking of a literal Goddess. >Minthara's had several partners in the past, but won't stray once in a relationship, and won't share. >Shadowheart's had several partners, and is open to polyamory. >Karlach only ever talks about a single friend, and is completely against sharing of any kind.
Well, none of them will straight up cuck you unless you choose to do so.
But if by "cuck" you mean "has had sex in the past with other people" then all of them qualify.
Shadowcuck is a filthy whore too. It's telling that the only defense Blacked'zel fans have in their pocket is "but Shadowheart". Whatever helps you copes with your attractions to roasties.
>Romance Lae'zel, she never ever wants to do anything with anyone but you >Minty is the same way, Karlac too
Romance Shart, she wants to have a four-way with the drow and Halsin while you watch on the cuck chair (you literally don't get mentioned once)
i didnt take this seriously but 20hrs in at the mountain pass and shart says something like "better brief and forgettable shared moments than the obligation of romance" or something so yeah, she's not wife material
The only ones that may be wife material are Minthara and Karlach.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Minthara would be a better wife than Lae'zel
lol wut. You hardly even know Minthara besides that one time she sucked your dick in the crypt.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Minthara is actually extremely loyal to you. It just takes a lot of evil deeds to impress her. She would make for an excellent wife.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What evil deeds are there to do past act I? Kill Nightsong
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kill Nightsong, wipe out Harpers by killing Isobel (which is batshit insane evil if you think about it). Kill the last actual Dark Justiciar. Make the dude who wants to revive the dead dwarf woman stab himself to death. Kill Wulbren and his gnomes.
Technically you can be evil to Minthara too by completely erasing her personality.
Oh also taking without a fight the Moonlantern from the Drider and then sending them off to death. Maybe I'm missing some other things too here and there.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>evil to Minthara too by completely erasing her personality
Can you recruit her after that?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Honestly, I have no idea. I don't think you can though? Considering her story is reliant on her having memories of past life.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know she doesn't go around my camp trying to fuck all the male party members.
The only ones that may be wife material are Minthara and Karlach.
Shadowcuck is a filthy whore too. It's telling that the only defense Blacked'zel fans have in their pocket is "but Shadowheart". Whatever helps you copes with your attractions to roasties.
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shadowheart fans are suffering, anons. Send them your thoughts and prayers.
In like one of the first dialogues by the crypt on the beach Gale asks Shart of she has a lover back home and she says she only likes casual sex
>see the first person I met on the Nautiloid >she bravely helped me escape >leave her in cage because she didn't offer to fondle my balls if I free her
She's a total bitch at first, but know that it's because she's fresh from her Githyanki creche and doesn't know shit about Faerun. She acts hard because she's scared and confused, and this becomes more and more obvious over time.
I plan on doing another run with her in my party this time. I know they are a different culture but if you want to be saved maybe show a little appreciation.
I hear ya, but we're in a fantasy world here, brother. She's probably my favorite character, after 4 very different playthroughs. She was my least favorite at first.
>be me, teenage Gith'yanki girl >kidnapped by Ghaik and mindraped by tadpole >'oh fuck my people are going to kill me' >ambush cute guy, too bad he's a thrall >oh wow, he's not a thrall >uwu maybe he can help me escape >wow, he's really good at fighting >uh oh, he's rescuing the cute elf >better take the lead so he pays attention to me >escape ship, get trapped by devilspawn >cute guy shows up, but the elf girl is at his hip >better act tough so he doesn't know I'm scared and lonely
Lae'zel is the only one that canocally fucks Wyll, though. Karlach might be a suitable replace due to her ending though. It was soi bad that they had to add the option for you to join her in a patch.
She fucks Wyll IF you don't romance her, and then talks about how it was a waste of time. She has no interest in anyone else if you do romance her, unlike Shadowheart. And Karlach is beyond being a whore, she'd probably lose it from getting a firm handshake.
>She fucks Wyll IF you don't
She's still canonically willing to fuck him, though. That image is still canon. Also, I don't give a fuck about Shadowheart. She's also a whore. You guys can argue about which whore is the biggest whore, but they're all still whores.
Yeah, kinda. But the frog is a teenage whore who always always taught that sex doesn't matter, but she becomes violently monogamous. The Shar bitch has been a whore for 40+ years and even if you become emotionally intimate with her, she still is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I've been run through by dozens of guys in one night stands and used to be a raging cock slut, but I'm ready to settle down now.
That's still fucking gross. This is people in the west actually want now. "Her past doesn't matter. I just love her for her"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Maybe the frog girl fucked dozens of dudes before, but it doesn't seem like it. 1 or 2 tops, I bet. While Shadowheart will mention out of nowhere that she prefers casual relationships and orgies because they're easier and simpler
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>While Shadowheart will mention out of nowhere that she prefers casual relationships
So does Lae'zel. That's basically the beginning of her romance. "I won't be your girlfriend, but I will be your lay"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
By the Light of Lathander, if you actually feel threatened by Wyll you might be even more limp-dicked than him.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So it's basically picrel. That's still a no from me. I don't care if she's ready to settle down now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Maybe. This is all headcanon but there's no official canon on the matter. She doesn't take sex seriously at first but quickly falls in love with you and then takes it very seriously.
>While Shadowheart will mention out of nowhere that she prefers casual relationships
So does Lae'zel. That's basically the beginning of her romance. "I won't be your girlfriend, but I will be your lay"
Yeah, but how many others has she laid? Few, based on her background, fresh from the creche. While Shadowheart is easily 200+ after all her snuff orgies with Shar
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even the Shadowheart stuff you mention is headcanon if you want to get realistic. She doesn't actually mention any numbers or orgies specically. You just want to believe Lae'zel is pure because you like her more. They're both whores, bruh. You can't dismiss Lae'zel being one just because you like her more. They're both fucking nasty. If you're fine with her past, you're fine with her past. Just don't try to downplay it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They're both whores, bruh
But that's it. We know Shadowheart's a whore, we don't know if the frog is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>we don't know if the frog is
We know the frog is. She goes around the camp asking me to fuck her and has sex with anyone willing. She also talks about preferring flings just like Shadowheart.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know if I can continue this conversation towards my desired result without delving deeper into autism and schizophrenia than I'm comfortable with. So, this ends here.
frog > darkness
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>frog > darkness
They're both filthy whores. This wasn't a conversation about which ones is better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you didn't want to engage with autism and schizophrenia then why are you arguing waifu purity?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I was willing, but I've reached my limit.
>frog > darkness
They're both filthy whores. This wasn't a conversation about which ones is better.
One is confirmed a filthy whore. The other, unlikely, but possible. Have you finished the game yet?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>One is confirmed a filthy whore. The other, unlikely, but possible.
One is a filthy whore. The other is a filthy whore but green.The only difference is you like the green one and are willing to kiss her while you try not to think about all the dick she probably sucked.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
IRL I don't fuck women outside my race so I wouldn't fuck the frog either but we're not talking about that, anon. Keep the convo in context or don't, but don't bound back and forth, whenever it's convenient, like a gay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>IRL I don't fuck women outside my race so I wouldn't fuck the frog either but we're not talking about that, anon. Keep the convo in context or don't, but don't bound back and forth, whenever it's convenient, like a gay
So you don't deny that you're willing to kiss women that have sucked hundreds of dicks like Lae'zel. The only problem you had with that is Lae'zel is a different race. Blacked'zel fags are really something.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are being ridiculously obnoxious and insecure.
I wouldn't worry about sex if I were you. You're unlikely to have it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your brain has been fried by porn and btw I'm 90% sure I'm talking to some subhuman pajeet or brownoid.
This insecurity at what amounts to a bad conditional one night stand is typical of micropenis behaviour.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lae'zel fags would just say "At least she's willing to settle down with you in the end".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i wish i didnt already post my smug halsin, you will have to just imagine his ursine cock ravaging your disgusting shadowy slutbag since lord knows she makes you sit in the corner while it happens
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Typical blacked'zel fag. No actual defense other than "but Shadowheart". Shadowheart is also a filthy whore too.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
they all are, if you play your cards right (though Karlach will die soon)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Posts a fucking hentai panel >still pretends to have standards
Lmao fuck off, you're on level with any roastie
>lae'zel literally says wyll is terrible in bed.
I'd imagine it's hard to be enthusiastic about fucking some gross frog whore. Astarion does better than him because Astarion gives off "I'll fuck anything" vibes.
>lae'zel literally says wyll is terrible in bed.
she never said that in my game. though, if she did I would make sure she died. >hell out of all characters in the party I feel like Wyll is a constant punching bag.
good. I hate wyll
Blade of the Frontiers. Because Wyll keeps constantly referring himself in third person.
Shadowheart is fine. Refers to her as a person who is basically a Sharran brainwashed soldier. Makes sense that her captors wouldn't want her to even be tied to her original name.
shadowheart isn't a name she gave herself and fits with her lore, if cringy and doesn't she get called out by the other companions for having a cringy name?
I would have liked wyll more if he wasn't black. Also in the fucking 10 mins it takes to walk from the grove to karlach he tries to fuck both Lae'zel and shart like 20 times
>refer to himself by nicknames he gave to himself
It is against the code to give yourself your own nickname. You're not guaranteed the same nickname between groups, if they choose to adopt a nickname from another group due to their own discovery that's fine but you cannot explicitly tell them that's your nickname from a different group.
I have only met one person in my life who introduced themselves by a nickname. It was so jarring everyone had to have a discussion about how wrong it was. Until that point nobody thought about it but everyone agreed that a nickname must be earned.
In the ending, he literally gives himself a brand new nickname AND refers to himself via that new nickname. Which to me was utterly cringe inducing.
I honestly have no idea why I haven't talked him off adventuring on my good character run.
I forgot that he's after defeating the absolute going to be a... just a dude lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>gives himself a brand new nickname AND refers to himself via that new nickname
Fucking gross.
I'm not a fan of this because I got a really cool nickname once and I'd like to use it in all situations, but it's never relevant or interesting in other contexts
>I'm not a fan of this
Well that's just too bad because your nickname isn't yours to give out, it's for someone else to give you. The fact is you can't at all in any way suggest to people a nickname for yourself. If you meet someone ELSE with your nickname it's not your choice if you or they get to keep it, it's up to your mutual friends to decide and if you're lucky you might get a new one for free.
It's the fucking code. People who don't even know it's the code will know it's the code if they think about it. It applies to both men and women. You ask anybody, ANYBODY in the world if it's okay to give yourself your own nickname and the answer will always be no.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I agree with all that, I just wish more people called me (name)saw
I'm not a fan of this because I got a really cool nickname once and I'd like to use it in all situations, but it's never relevant or interesting in other contexts
In the ending, he literally gives himself a brand new nickname AND refers to himself via that new nickname. Which to me was utterly cringe inducing.
I honestly have no idea why I haven't talked him off adventuring on my good character run.
I forgot that he's after defeating the absolute going to be a... just a dude lmao
Its so fucking dumb he calls himself >the blade of ect, when the dude has 8 strength and 13 dex. Dude is >le amazing blade, with a +1 modifier
>call him the blade of fartpiss >make him a spellcaster with bad melee skills
Can't tell if he's supposed to be laughable or if Larian merged him with another character at some point like they did with others and the original blade and the sorcerer class were separate
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's Pace of the Blade, he use Charisma.
>shows up to fight gobbos >immediately uses eldritch blast >somehow no one realizes he is a warlock >supposed to be super elite >2 random gobbo fags held him down and took his eye out like he is a moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
he didn't attack her he threw a potion at her
throwing potions at ppl do the effect on them
oh my heck!!!
I have 200 hours on bg3 and left a heckin 10/10 review on metacritic!
I need to change it heckin pronto! Thanks for the tip stranger
game is now no fun and unplayable for me
>he's still at it after getting blown the fuck out >he got called out so hard that he even changed the hash this time instead of the filename.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/AWOJWn6buhtE%2BJuPAUZiGQ%3D%3D/page/1/
The dude is in these threads 24/7. He clearly has no life and decided to make it his life's mission to crusade against Larian. He's been at it for years now and isn't going to change his mind regardless of what anyone says.
why isn't there a option to mating press orin and impregnate her? I WANT TO FUCK ORIN AGAINST HER WILL! I WILL PARALYZE HER AND CRITICAL HIT HER WOMB WITH MY COCK
She does.
She steals your position and backstabs you. All the while stealing people's identities and committing crimes.
Blackid genes are strong in her with... alternative ways.
>Shadowheart knew she would get her ass beat in a fight >stabs Lae'zel while she's sleeping
Playthrough 1 is loving Shadowheart.
Playthrough 2 is seeing what she really is.
>Doesn't go around camp trying to fuck all the men >Won't cuck you with a bear druid >Won't leave you behind to run off to hell with a black man.
The only good romance.
>recruit her >can't believe I did all those awful things
Except, bitch, I did those awful things, and I enjoyed them.
What is this moralizing old hag doing in my camp? Have a change of heart now huh? Even though you were still simping the Absolute in act 1 when you weren't brainwashed?
Hypocritical cunt, not worth the time.
Anon, she isn't really judging you or moralizing. She will actually go along with with every single bad thing you want to do and even admire you if you're playing Dark Urge.
However, during the story she CONSISTENTLY hates any context of responses which relate to losing control.
Which is tied to her losing control over her own actions. She is still utterly ruthless but her simping for Absolute isn't her fault.
Not to speak of the fact that you got lucky with the Prism. Otherwise you'd be equally simping for Absolute.
What is more of a shame is that you potentially lose 4 companions to get Minthara. Yet she has missing lines for things that happen during story. THAT is not worth it.
>but her simping for Absolute isn't her fault
she literally does it when you have the sex scene, when she's not under the influence
She only does a 180 when she's about to be vegetalized.
Hence: hypocritical cunt.
Makes sense though? Imagine believing in something to point of fanatical extremism. Suddenly you lose connection to it. You get confused, try to find your faith again. Proceed to get misguided again.
Then later find out what a piece of shit Absolute is when she's getting punished for incompetence despite her doing her best.
>What is more of a shame is that you potentially lose 4 companions to get Minthara
Definitely. Larian missed the mark on being evil period. History has shown players gravitate towards being good in games as it is. They needed to incentivize people to be evil with power or rewards, not hardcore punish them for it.
She is also extremely loyal to you.
I absolutely love that when you click on her, she says "In your name."
In different context, Absolutist cultists say "In her name" relating to Absolute.
Meaning she trusts you to point where she'll follow everything you'll put her through.
I like Minthara, just wish she would have more lines or reactions.
>I like Minthara, just wish she would have more lines or reactions.
They did say they would be willing to add more Minthara content depending on fan feedback. Hopefully they actually do it. I'm fine with all the other drawbacks to an "evil" play through as long as she gets fleshed out more.
Divinity players remember how Larian straight up showered Divinity 2 with brand new questlines for cool gear, new feats, improved most aspects of the game and made it better over time according to feedback.
Larian's great in that regard.
>no one likes wyll because he is black and no one is going to put a warlock in their party because 4 of the top 5 most popular classes are all the cha face classes >better rewrite his character to be super boring >oh wait still no one fucking uses him and he is only slightly more popular as a starting character than the frog
Wyll's not bad, he's just boring. Like yeah, you're a tragic hero, so is fucking everyone else around here.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
he and halsin are literally the 2 least interesting characters in the game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wyll is boring
Kind of, yeah? Honestly, still a massive improvement over someone like Jacob from Mass Effect 2. Who was complete waste of air.
He is quite charismatic good guy type character. Just wish he would shut the fuck up about being BlAde oF tHE FrOntIerS
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>jacob >write black character >he cheats on you >his dad abandoned him to start his own sex slave colony
bravo Bioware
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wyll is boring
Kind of, yeah? Honestly, still a massive improvement over someone like Jacob from Mass Effect 2. Who was complete waste of air.
He is quite charismatic good guy type character. Just wish he would shut the fuck up about being BlAde oF tHE FrOntIerS
hey, jacob did important shit like getting you free fire ammo early in the game and having pull to set up warp bombs before you got jack and then making a jackass of himself all the fucking time like when he calls thane a hired gun, even though he himself is literally a hired gun.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
don't forget that he also fucked Miranda at least once, because there's some sadistic bastard at Bioware who wants to see everyone suffer
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
idk, I understood it like that the first time I played I think, but based on the IOS game its unlikely they actually fucked. Granted I thought Liara fucked that drell while I was dead the first time I played
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I yet have to meet a single person who actually liked Jacob.
God, what a fucking piece of shit.
So compared to him, Wyll is a saint. It's just that Wyll suffers from the good guy syndrome which can make him a bit boring.
>tell submarine dwarf to take me to the Iron Throne >Gortash pops up on the little monitor wagging his finger at me with a self destruct button >okay >go back and kill him >his death causes several quest triggers to erroneously happen >the steel watcher factory just blows itself up and the gnomes pat me on the back as if I did it despite never being in there >the Iron Throne also blows itself up and I am given dialogue saying I saw Wyll's dad dead in the Iron Throne despite never entering there >dwarf and the submarine also gone saying the Iron Throne blew up despite me never going in there >okay whatever guess these quests are fucked now i'll go finish other shit >karlach gets thrown through a wall by a cursed skull and triggers an arrest dialogue with a NPC
Holy fucking shit this game is so blatantly unfinished. Act 3 has been miserable with the bugs.
I didn't though? The game made it clear I can't go to the Iron Throne while Gortash is alive, so I killed him. Even if I missed something along the way, it doesn't change how obvious the Iron Throne and factory blowing up wasn't intended to happen given that my player character magically saw a corpse in a place they never visited
The Iron Throne is literally a race against the clock rescue mission.
If you went to the Fireworks Factory (quest starts in Rivington) you would've found notes about the self destruct devices.
If you actually talked to the Gondian leader you would know they had family being held captive. The Gondian quest literally goes all the way to to Act 1 when you free Barcus from the Windmill.
It's also weird that you wouldn't just save and go there anyway just to see...like how do you get to Act 3 and not know the game is all about exploration?
>It's also weird that you wouldn't just save and go there anyway just to see
I did and Gortash blows up the place. Again the game is telling me to kill him to get to the Iron Throne, but that makes the place also explode for some reason even though a dead guy can't pull the trigger.
I don't care too much about Wyll's father or the shitty aristocracy but it's still annoying.
He blows up the place after 4-8 turns depending on difficulty level. That's more than enough time to rescue the prisoners.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
For me it was exploded as soon as I made the decision to go to the Iron Throne instead of turning the submarine around. Didn't even set foot, it blew up in a cutscene.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I've not seen that specific bug mentioned once.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So admittedly I looked it up and it turns out I noped out of the cutscene too fast because when the explosions began and Gortash mentioned corpses I figured that meant the whole place was done the moment I ignored his warnings. Though like that
There's no reason to assume that you wouldn't be able to got to Iron Throne after killing Gortash, considering he can't blow it up after he's dead. Same with factory.
Up to this point game has warned you every time (sometimes erroneously) that you're about to cuck yourself out of content, it doesn't here.
It's obviously a matter of game being unfinished and not taking the possibility of tackling Gort before IT and factory into account.
said there's no reason not to assume the Iron Throne is doable after killing Gortash
There's no reason to assume that you wouldn't be able to got to Iron Throne after killing Gortash, considering he can't blow it up after he's dead. Same with factory.
Up to this point game has warned you every time (sometimes erroneously) that you're about to cuck yourself out of content, it doesn't here.
It's obviously a matter of game being unfinished and not taking the possibility of tackling Gort before IT and factory into account.
Imagine my surprise when I killed him during his inauguration. Image related.
(Darkness is a very, very powerful spell lmao)
It straight up on spot locks you out of Iron throne, it locks you out of Steel watcher foundry and Stop the presses quests.
Fortunately, I am playing Dark Urge. The satisfaction of killing Gortash during his greatest moment was absolutely fucking worth it.
I really want to recruit and romance Minthara on my next playthrough but I also want to make a fem Tav BUT I dont want a lesbo relationship with Mint so what the fuck should I do
>blow up the steel watcher factory so I'm not outgunned when I attend Gortash's ceremony >can't actually attend it >every guard attacks me >enter the throne room >no dialogue, just combat >Wyll gets mad when I throw a grenade at his dad
WTF
Not really, because I got the heads up on Gortash and the Steel Walkers, and figures that the invite to the ceremony was probably a trap, so I weakened him and then went to meet and talk. Didn't happen though, I just had to kill him.
>proceeds to sneak past restricted area >blows up only thing that Gortash worked on for years >blows up entire army that is the core of Gortash's power over the city >is surprised that killing Wyll's dad angers Wyll
wtf
I give you that the no dialogue part does suck. Because you technically should be invited by Gortash himself speaking through the Steel watcher.
For Gortash, I intended to use it as a bargaining chip, like hey, you're not so strong anymore, what can do you for me? as for Wyll's dad, I didn't realize that was his dad because I never talked to Wyll
>proceeds to sneak past restricted area >blows up only thing that Gortash worked on for years >blows up entire army that is the core of Gortash's power over the city >is surprised that killing Wyll's dad angers Wyll
wtf
I give you that the no dialogue part does suck. Because you technically should be invited by Gortash himself speaking through the Steel watcher.
Just play Dark Urge. It's literally rewarding you for being a psychopathic murderhobo. However. Big however.
Play it on second run. That way you know which NPCs are and aren't essential and won't miss out on potential rewards.
Then go around and kill everything and everyone that moves.
Can you just kill Shadowheart on the beach, or not recruit her, and what happens later, since you need her box to not get mind controlled by the Absolute?
>I don't like Wyll because he looks incredibly fucking stupid with the horns
He is a cuck. like those are literally the horns of the cuckold. They literally look the same as historical representations of cucks
I played the beta, and I recall it saying that you can progress either in the Underdark or in the mountain pass, but one will lock you out of the other. Is that still true, and if so, which should I progress in?
You can do both, or at least you can go through the underdark then loop back around to the mountain pass.
I recommend doing it that way because you'll have levels and the shadowlands side of the mountain pass is closer to the relevant stuff
nah people are retarded. moving on to the mountain pass only progresses the druid/goblin issue and is still part of act 1
act 2 doesn't start until you get to the shadowlands. So all of the underdark, grymforge, mountain pass, monastary, gith creche all count as act 1. act 2 is the smallest act imo. act 3 is fucking massive. I don't know if it has so much content because i progressed a ton of quests from act 1 and 2 and their conclusions are in act 3 or if act 3 is always packed with content.
Act 2 has Moonrise Towers, Gauntlet of Sharr, Thorm's 3 Children, Gith'yanki gank fight, the Inn, the weird little nature kid, fishmen gank fight, hidden Sharr test in the middle of the city, Shadow-Cursed Vine miniboss, and maybe one or two other minibosses that I haven't seen.
It's basically the size of the Underdark+Grymforge at most.
out of those only the shar gauntlet and the mindflayer colony are on diff maps. act 1 just seems way more massive than act 2. act 3 also has a shit ton of extra maps. i just discovered a underwater prison and went to hell. Went to prison and broke into gartash's room before the corronation.
Funny enough. When you are done with the starting area, just go to one or the other. Then backtrack. You are actively encouraged to actually go to both. Since if you don't, you miss out loot and story progress.
Monastery especially has some absolutely sick gear + one of the best passive conditions in the game.
Funny enough. When you are done with the starting area, just go to one or the other. Then backtrack. You are actively encouraged to actually go to both. Since if you don't, you miss out loot and story progress.
Monastery especially has some absolutely sick gear + one of the best passive conditions in the game.
I played the beta, and I recall it saying that you can progress either in the Underdark or in the mountain pass, but one will lock you out of the other. Is that still true, and if so, which should I progress in?
you are almost certainly encouraged to do both of them because if Lae'zel realizes where the creche is she will demand to go there, but Halsin, gale and shadowheart all tell you to go though the underdark. I think if Lae'zel is in your party when you find the dead gith by the toll house she will want to search for more gith
It's just good to do both. There is zero downside. You get some nice exp. You don't miss out on anything in act 2. You get some really good items. And you also get to kill more arrogant piece of shit Giths along the way.
I got to give it to Gith though. Their encounters can be pretty challenging.
First time against the Inquisitor >Misty Steps behind Gale >heh nothing personal kid >wombo combos him from 100 to 0
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Bridge encounter can be brutal too. Baretha runs to the team. Slaps one teammate twice. Action surge, kills another.
B r u h
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even when I did Command: Drop cheese on Kith'rak and stealthed up to them the iniative win she was still a problem.
Fucking parry and then their raiders do way more damage than 90% of enemies you end up encountering.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Funniest part is that you can actually sneak up to him and get a legendary weapon in act 1 that isn't the Blood of Lathander.
I love this game so much.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's what I was doing, but even then the fight was gnarly the first time.
Completely breaks Lae'zel's dialogue next time you speak to her too.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh, I think we did it in different way. I sneaked past behind him with invisibility. Then proceeded to use battlemaster disarm for him to drop the weapon. You have to almost perfectly switch to turn based mode and pick up the sword. Otherwise cutscene triggers with him flying off.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The sword just laid there for me and I picked it up after the fight.
at one point, Laezel threatened to leave my party if we didnt find the creche, unless I passed like a 20 persuasion check. kinda crazy to just randomly potentially lose your frontline fighter.... lmfao. can you imagine NOT savescumming?
Can just always reclass anyone you want. Zero issue whatsoever. It's awesome that she WILL leave your ass if you don't do what's personal to her.
I like it. Gives characters motivations instead of being certified Bethesda followers who do everything you wanna do without questioning you or having a point in them existing.
Larian makes their games knowing that you will savescum. I don't know if it's true of Baldur's Gate but in Divinity there were numerous failsafes that you cannot actually brick your save. You could murder literally every single character you meet and you'll still make it to the end. These failsafes gives them the freedom to let the player do whatever the fuck they want within the mechanics. It lets them make realistic and extreme outcomes for the player's choices, which results in more fun and if you don't like it, they know you can rewind.
If you're in the Underdark and don't want to progress to the next Act, just don't use the elevator in Shadowforge. That's the moment the next one begins. It should give you a heads up when you try to click it that it progresses the story.
Y'know, if Githyanki are just humans evolved from the pressures of millenia of Illithid breeding and control...then why are their ears so long? What was the Illithid pressured design upon humans to make them green with long ears and tiny noses?
Those face spots are quite easy to remove if I wanted to. I'd love to just change intensity of them but it's actually quite complicated (harder than just removing)
Done. I haven't enabled my custom tattoo & skin color (i reinstalled the game on my nvme yesterday) but I've just finished painting her weird gith snake spots.
>Slutty >Only agrees to sleep with you for sex with no strings attached at first >Shuts you down when you try to talk about a relationship or love >Grows to love you over the course of the game
Lae'zel is basically picrel
>70% of spells are concentration based. >there is no feat for having 2 concentration spells at the same time >here dear player, have Weapon Master/Armor feats feat which allows you to wield any weapons or armor you want! Haha, just don't lvl 1 dip into a class that gives you all that for free haha
i feel like multiclassing adds a level of complexity and cheeseability to the game that isnt needed. but itt seems like a lot of players have fun with it. i like the concept of going deeper into a class so i have to rely on my teammates insttead of being a wizard that automatically gets 2 turns, etc
I mean, considering how the tieflings are described by the druids, makes sense.
Also >Tieflings actively bringing threats to the camp >Tieflings are literal hellspawn that go against the nature >Tiefling refugee kid tries to steal a sacred idol >Another tiefling refugee kid runs a wannabe thief's guild >tiefling leader straight up offers you Kagha's assassination as an option
not true if you ignore the grove you can recruit her in act 2
bonus : you have everybody wyll and karlach included because otherwise if you kill the refugess they refuse to follow you
Too bad (or not) most of the thieflings die as a result so a2 is even more barren of content than it usually is. And I don't think you can do halsin's quest now.
>oh no laezel has been kidnapped by orin >don't give a single shit and continue questing all around the city
anybody else? not sure if she's going to die but whatever loosing a companion is probably the most dumb shit they could have done so i cant bother
He does probably what he think is necessary for the world.
He does have actually one soft moment though. But for that, you do a very specific thing and play in very specific way.
How did she defeat the Sharty? How did people suddenly realize Laezel is a better girl than the coomerbait?
Are we seeing a new Liara vs Tali (Laezel being Tali) unfold in front of us?
Not true at all. Game has actually instances where you constantly get encouraged to consume tadpoles. Yet if you resist and never consume one, you get lines of dialogue out of it. Which is neat.
Usage of the tadpole has very minor consequences but actual ones come with the astral tadpole.
A LOT of the choices in the game have actual consequences the more you play through the game.
Mark of the Absolute has no downsides whatsoever beyond roleplay. It's just that Absolute worshippers will recognize one of their own.
Only downside is that you let from roleplay perspective some goblin trash burn you.
I like how people see 4 people who look like this and still think it's a good idea to not do what's asked of them. Hmmm yeeeeesss, I think you'll need that intimidation check to convince me. Yes-yes.
Honestly I am a bit disappointed by the Half-Illithid thing. So far there have been nearly zero dialogues relating to it? And I'm about 70% through act 3. :/
On sidenote.
Displacer beast form is one of the funniest things in this game. Haste the person with a beast/drink the potion.
Proceed to create 10 clones of yourself that create a an unpassable minefield.
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup. If you have split of 6 melee class + thief rogue, you can have 2 bonus actions and 2 bonus actions. Thus creating even more clones. It's absolutely hilarious.
Druid builds are pretty straightforward at points. They aren't really as flexible due to how Wild shapes and generally changing shapes works.
But it's pretty fun regardless. Displacer beast with some haste cocaine + some way of confusing enemy is one of the most hilarious interactions in the game.
Druids are hilarious if you can make party of 4 druids. The game already gives you Halsin and Jaheira as default. Reclass some companions into druids early, run around as 4 owlbears smacking shit.
Alternatively, play Durge druid. Get those sweet, sweet benefits since Durge has his own shape spell.
Built for black warlock cock.
she's actually pretty hot if you can look past all the gith features. nice jawline, pretty eyes, lips
I like her as is, but there's plenty of ways to mod her if that's your thing.
How pornbrained are the people who make/install these mods that make everyone look like dolls?
Very. Hell, a few days ago Ganker had a big thread about how great DOA girls were and that series is the epitome of interchangeable doll girls.
Sometimes it feels like people condition themselves to like really trashy, boring dolls out of some kind of strange political obligation
have a nice day chud
People on this board are completely Brain fried and Porn addicted (Hentai)
thats disgusting
that's just a green elf you coward
And that's a good thing.
This is horizontal, not an improvement. Don't see why people can't be happy with what they have. What's actually bad is her wrinkly skin/body hence "frog."
There's also a mod for smooth frogs
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1902
Yeah that's much better.
>Don't see why people can't be happy with what they have
Because she's fucking gross.
show it in motion
fucking hate coomers
i just puked in my mouth
Repulsive. Coomers hate uniqueness
>commies seething at what an anon has on his computer which doesn't affect their game by any means
>i dont agree with their opinion therefore they are commie
brainrotten coomer chud
>brainrotten coomer chud
I know you are, but what am I
>n-no u
The gith features make her exotic and unique. They act as Hispanice to the traditionally desirable thick lips, big expressive eyes and god-tier bone structure.
she's actually very hot if you arent queer
I felt myself more and more attracted to her throughout the game. I think it's her sense of loyalty that really makes me see her as attractive.
>I think it's her sense of loyalty that really makes me see her as attractive.
I counted on that very same loyalty when I turned into tentacleman for her people, and look where that got me...
BG3 lets you play out 'Would you love me if I was a worm'
kek
Hey I actually like her upturned bat snout.
Miss me with that manbat shit. I already edited out her tattoos, nose and skin color + used a mod to make her body smooth like a human's. The last two things on the list are ears and teeth but I'm dogshit with Blender.
show us how your lae'zel looks anon.
tried to record the scene but the computer only heard my keyboard lol
moron what the fuck did you change? your lae'zel looks exactly like original lae'zel. whats the difference?
on a unrelated note. is that outfit a mod? where did you get it?
>She's attractive if you ignore all the non-attractive things.
That's how it works. You brain is fried by filters and make up
Wi--Wife material?
It isn't. You can be attractive without filters and makeup. Blacked'zel is just ugly and gross and frogfags just try to convince others she isn't. Shadowcuck is also a filthy whore, but at least Shadowfags can cling to her passable looks. Frogfags just love an ugly whore.
I find it interesting that her voice actor bears some resemblance to the character design.
They did mocap.
>unshaved arms
I, male, will bravely face her, at great risk to myself, in combat aka frog style, to determine the dominant person. This contest will quickly be concluded, after which, she will shave her arms and take a bath. I have filled the bath with 23 containers of Green Food Dye, and I will ensure that she soaks for at least 2 hours.
>hairy arms
High test. She fucks like a turbo jet and won't be satisfied by one round
Her skin looks like an old spoiled banana.
Probably smells like one too.
Only thing I don't like is her wrinkly granny skin.
Yeah, once you learn to read her face it's no problem. But that overstretched, wrinkly yet taut skin is unacceptable. One or the other I could understand, but both?
no I don't think I can survive without you
Best girl
>most normal heterosexual romance written by cuckold gay
Her confrontational style of speaking fills me up every time.
green gf
Just go back to camp!
You think you can survive without me?
GO TO THE CAMP NOW
WE HAVE A FULL PARTY
GOOOO
I dipped my pen in green ink
How do you get Minthara, and when? In my playthrough, I slaughtered the goblins, and she started hostile.
>slaughtered the goblins
Well that's definitely a bad first impression.
You have to side with the goblins, just talk to her in the goblin camp without killing them. I don't think you actually get her until act 2 though like Halsin
You gotta side with the goblins and kill everyone in the Druid Grove.
Wyll will leave your party if you do that and so will Karlach, assuming you've recruited her already. Gale will try as well, but can be convinced to stay. You cannot be joined by Halsin either but this is kind of a net positive, as he's dead weight at best.
Why do people keep spreading these blatant lies?
All you have to do is not kill her.
>Do Shadow Druids quest
>Kill Gut and the Hobgoblin
>Ignore Minthara
>You lose Halsin, the Tieflings, and Karlach's romance
>You keep Karlach and Wyll
>Minthara literally has voicelines for every companion other than Halsin
>>Kill Gut and the Hobgoblin
wrong moron
killing the hobgoblin will make her hostile
you are supposed to ignore the conflict entirely and go to chapter 2, she will be at moonrise tower and also has lines for karlach you lying bitch gay
It doesn't matter if it makes her hostile if you don't actually aggro her.
Fuck y'all are dumb.
I'm pretty certain that I killed Minthara last on my first run and she was not hostile before I attacked her
wont i lose the sex scene with her ( the only use female companions have ) if i wait to recruit her in part 2?
You can't romance her the way I described.
You have to actually kill the Grove to fuck her.
She chastises you for it.
You can literally just knock out minthara and it'll count for halsin's quest
Tieflings live, druids live, and minthara shows up later for you
pretty sure MInthara is flagged as dead if you knock her out
damn that's a shame
to hell with them for forcing you to actually make decisions
That got patched because I tried it and it didn't work.
KO'ing people just treats them as dead outside of one specific scenario in Act 3.
I fought her like an hour ago, we had knock out passive enabled and she died anyway
I don't think this works anymore. I tried it two days ago, and made sure she was knocked out - but she didn't show up in act2, just the gobbos.
KO her last week. Body was on the ground and was able to loot her naked. But I haven't reached point yet in A2 where she would appear.
Other save I just killed her. She really isn't worth it for the companions you lose, medicore default class, and half baked story.
you only have to slaughter the tieflings and druids if you want to romance her no?
I believe that's correct
Wtf i slaughtered every single soul in the druid grove and the refugee camp and im still stuck with this moron. This game is buggy af. Maybe i bonk him if my dark urges conveniently command me to do so
How did you slaughter them?
I think he leaves if you actually initiate the attack on the grove with Minthara.
If you actually go and manually kill everyone BEFORE the attack, results may vary.
I love giving Minthara body ports of Dribbles. It makes her always so happy.
i have fallen in love with laezel
>tell her I don't want to fuck anymore because I want to romance someone else
>she tells me I have left her with a scar in her heart that will never heal
>feel so bad I reload the save and romance her instead
ENDING: why can't we go with lae'zel on the dragon? i let her go but she was so devastated that i reload the save to make her stay with us, but th ending felt rushed
Most companion endings where butchered by cut content. The only endings Kalrach has left are her bad ends
thank you, yeah guess i'll still romance the source of my joy on my next playtrough when the definitive edition will release
still a shame though
We got shafted so hard.
Larian always fucks up the final act of their games unfortunately. DoS I was a trainwreck before the Definitive Edition completely redid it. DoS II wasn't much better.
The endings are always abrupt and relatively unsatisfying compared to the stuff that happens earlier in the game. Like they do such a good job building up the world but they can't build up the main plot all that well. What made DoS2 really bad was the companions with Malady channelling that orb at the end. Like I understand why the fight had to go like that without them but man it wasn't great.
It's just unfortunate they wrote Malady to be so cool but for gameplay purposes you can't have her fight with you at all, which makes no sense given how much of a stake she has in everything. The first game's story was rather plain. But the thing is, the mediocre landing is really the only thing wrong with their games. Everything else from the gameplay to the writing before the end is rather nice. It feels like a game in a land of magical horseshit, like the trapped chest in Fort Joy was just delightful.
Name five (5) games with good endings.
Games, books, songs...the ending always seems to be the hardest part.
Final Fantasy Tactics, Thronebreaker, Nier Automata, Last of Us, Tales from the Borderlands
I don't want to debate that list. I don't fucking care if someone disagrees with me.
Endings are hard because nobody plans shit. Shows and books have shit endings because they don't even have an ending in mind at the beginning or even half way through the series. People say Breaking Bad was good and they're just fucking wrong because the ending was only written for the last season, every season before that was just making up shit as they went along.
karlach got a big update recently though. they're also reworking the endings in general next patch.
It's weird that the game lets you save pretty much everything and everyone except Karlach and Astarion. There's no way to fix Karlach's heart (really making all the infernal metal the game throws at you in Act 3 useless) and Astarion always gets a shitty ending unless you let him ascend, which turns him into a power-hungry asshole.
It's probably technically better story writing not to be able to make everything pristine but as far as I know these are the only examples of when you can't
I unironically like that you can't save Karlach. Bad things happen to good people. It's a tragedy and she has a clear choice:
Remain and die or return to hells. It's bittersweet and shows that we can't get everything we wish for always.
Astarion is beyond redemption anyway. He's there to be the "evil" companion. One of the better written ones, of course. But letting him ascend is a very, very bad idea.
Astarion actually changes a lot into a better person depending on what you say to him and what you do around him. A big example being when you don't make him bite the blood-obsessed drow against his wishes. He's spurned by 200 years of physical and mental abuse and you can unironically "fix" him throughout the game. So it was sad to know he can't have a good life without throwing that all away.
I'd assume Minthara is more stalwart in her evilness.
Minthara is pretty damn evil considering her actual background and fact she comes from ruthless drow aristocracy.
She does actually have limits. She hates every instance of senseless killing and losing control. She does also have soft spots. Especially for the player character.
I just wish it was more worth it :/
I lost every tiefling related questline, Halsin, Wyll and Karlach over it. Alongside their questlines.
Just for her to not have a personal quest in act 2/3 and have lackluster amount of reactions :/
It does make me very happy tho that she has lines for picking up Dribbles' body parts. Always so hilarious.
>I unironically like that you can't save Karlach.
Vanilla DnD is basically a Marvel-style setting where you absolutely can have a goody ending where everyone is saved.
I like consequences of actions and stories that don't necessarily end in best ways possible. Karlach reflects the fact that you can be absolutely lovely person, yet have horrible things done to you and later either compromise or die free.
I do know a lot of people wish for happy endings but you can't have it all by magically waving the wand of convenience and fixing everything.
It is still quite sad that Karlach had it happen to her.
>I unironically like that you can't save Karlach.
This is fucking retarded. you are happy there is LESS choice? there are so many hook lines that SHOULD be explored to get a good ending with karlach. the current endings would still be there if you didnt bother TRYING to save karlach. The gondians made the heart karlach has and have innovated multiple times. How about asking them for help? nahhh. Okay how about Raphael?? you could make a deal with him for hel- nahhh. okay fuck it i break into his house save hope and kill him now a powerful cleric owe's me a favor lets ask her to use divine intervention to save karla- nah. Okay well gale has a scroll of true resurrection we can just use that to save karlac- nah. okay there is a infernal forge with dammon and a TON of infernal iron and improved infernal iron surely we can fix karlach's heart with thi- nah. it's just bullshit. all of the points should have been scrubbed if we were never going to persue them to save karlach.
lmao your waifu is getting spitroasted by imps and Zariel is laughing
bro make it realistic at least.
zariel herself would have to TRY to fuck karlach with the build i got going on. but she not the waifu. they gave her weird breasts. all the big body tiefling got nasty bolt on tits.
Yep thats the prevailing theory. I wish they would just own up that they cut out the upper city and that it's coming soon instead of saying it was NEVER planned when so many quest threads point towards the upper city but just stop?
okay but you could get your preferred ending even IF they added more endings or continued with the plot points THEY LITTERED ACT 3 with. No one would force you into chosing a happier ending but they really railroad you in this for what reason? I mean i have a similar gripe with the emperor crap. they act like you can kill the emperor early on but it's just a fake out and even during the orpheus reveal AGAIN there is fake choice for what reason?? the game does such a good job at adapting to players choice but in this particular instance it's "nah you need to work with the mindflayer lol"
True but larian atm did a very nasty preemptive attack imo. Instead of admitting they were wrong in cutting the uppercity (when it was announced multiple times before release) they went into semantics about what is cut content and when did the idea get shelfed. I HOPE larian does right by it's fans because so far they HAVE been but it's a bit worrying when the whole industry has lashed back on larian. They might move on just so they won't keep btfo the modern game industry,
I think it was because they cut an entire area that included her quests so we are stuck with bad endings
I am unironically happy that everything doesn't go into the Marvel style of nonsense where everyone gets to live happily ever after.
Bad things happen to good people. She gets presented with tough choice of: Die or go to hells or turn into a mind flayer.
Yes. Yes. You could do SO MUCH with "what if" scenarios but they aren't in the game.
COnsidering this game is huge and not everyone will get everything.
Makes in the end for a better story than just having her heart fixed as all that threat of burning out didn't matter.
>but they aren't in the game
but they ARE in the files, we just can't trigger them because they cut the upper city
Well, maybe we'll have in future some content to look forward to?
It isn't the worst thing ever honestly. If enough people want good ending for Karlach, maybe she'll get it.
Mind you, Divinity had 4 short storylines added via 4 Relics of Rivellon and back then Larian didnt have nearly as huge of a backing.
With BG3 and its success, they can think grander.
That being said, Larian is notorious for actually listening to their fans.
There is a very high chance that Karlach gets a good ending and more companions get additional content as game progresses.
Mind you, BG3 hasn't even gotten its first gift bag.
They already brought in her voice actor to add the ending where you join her in Ivernus. I think that's as good of an ending as they're going to give her.
I don't mind, I like the idea of my character going to hell with Karlach.
He's coming at it from a poetic perspective. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and there's no helping it. Like cancer or dementia.
I haven't done her story yet but despite this being Faerun you have to imagine that some things are permanent or beyond the ability for anybody to fix. I mean it's like real life, you get injured and you can't fix it no matter the doctors or money. These fantasy lands have run everything using magic that they've never sat back and figured out shit like quality control. The gods and tyrants of the world don't give a flying fuck about safety because soldiers are basically livestock.
Larian ran out of time and money. It's not okay but basically 99% of media produced nowadays does not fulfill the creator's vision, if such a vision was even good in the first place. And the guy was trying to put a silver lining on Karlach's cut content and spun it in a way that's poetic - sometimes the dog gets rabies and you have to put it down.
Very well said.
but no one asked for the poetic spin. we get that not everything can be perfect but the community in general wants a happier or better ending for karlach and this anon like many others see the outcry and go.... "hmmm but maybe its better this way actually because blah blah blah. Yup it's good! cope" like what the fuck? you enjoy it cool but the majority don't and being quiet about it wont get anything added or improved.
I'll be a paladin. they are immune to diseases right?
You're illiterate. And what I mean by that is that you can't comprehend what you're reading.
eat my ass
>paladin
True, you can fuck her then anon.
Gamers throwing a tantrum about Karlachs ending is the proof we don't deserve quality writing in our industry. People only want pandering
>no I cant let my bro who was vital through this whole adventure kill some randos and be able to live a normal life after all this!
Some friends you guys are
I was fine letting him the problem is Larian decided the one time they were going to be pure to D&D lore was the tidbit about how true vampires lose their humanity and become total assholes. For me given that I was helping Astarion be a better person it was night and day.
Larian shills learned they are a garbage dev who cannot manage their budget and scope.
I've heard you can if you're Gith
I have never fallen for a fictional character until her. It hurts.
she is the best written romance unironically.
oops
manface minthara mondays
thiefling blood as lube
Ugly Minthara.
Whatever people may say, Astarion has actually very well written romance too. Especially if you're playing Dark Urge. Trust me here. Dark Urge with Astarion romance has such very nice moments. Considering 2 monsters meet each other.
Of course, assuming you don't let him Ascend.
Ascended Astarion is a major asshole.
For real, romancing Astarion adds a ton to his character.
People immediately disregard him here because
>male romance
but damn if it's not filled with great moments throughout.
>People immediately disregard him here because
he gay
No.
Every single character in this game is playersexual.
He gay. Just listen to him talk.
He gay.
you gay, just listen to you talk.
you gay
Aye, he does talk in pretty gay way. Regardless though, every character in the game is playersexual.
Which is quite lame. Then again, if they weren't playersexuals, people would shit, piss and cry that you can't romance them.
Even though that's not how actual attraction realistically works.
>For real, romancing Astarion adds a ton to his character
its pretty gay though
A lot of people dismiss him because of the
>gay bear fucker elf
If you're playing a character, instead of a self insert or something, his character and romance is actually VERY well written. Alongside his character. A lot of thought went into it.
Especially with how Astarion x Dark Urge mirror each other.
Also has some genuinely nice twists in character (like him rejecting astral tadpole most fiercely just like Lae'zel) or having some funny moments.
They did a good job with him.
I agree that DurgexAstarion is probably the best written romance of the bunch.
Also helps his VA fucking knocks it out of the park whenever something Bhaal-related happens to you, he's so thoroughly heartbroken every time.
Dark Urge actually succumbing to the urge while romancing Astarion is actually heartbrokingly well written.
I absolutely love that they made Dark Urge as a character. Hands down has one of the best stories in the entire game, motivation, unique choices and ways to play it.
can you romance astarion and SH/Laezel? or will they demand you break it off with him
Most characters demand exclusivity after a certain point, including Astarion, who actually is surprised you'd choose him over literally anyone in your party.
Astarion is a selfish asshole. He won't share.
One person that is exclusively fine with you fucking around is actually Shadowheart.
Pick one companion, commit to them.
Or fuck the emperor if you're a weirdo.
find her prettier and prettier the more I see her
the frogussy got me acting unwise
well if it isn't my beautiful green frog wife.
>Only well written character
Everyone else’s writing is between retarded, cliche, and edgy teenager. This games only strength is it’s core gameplay and lazy girl.
big areola frog gf
she was coming onto me like 3 hours into the game, fucking whore
She comes onto you as soon as you resolve the Goblin questline.
She can fuck you before that.
All I had to do was let her interrogate the teethling, praise her for it and then suddenly shes all hot for me.
This game is such a fucking mess.
She'll also try to fuck Wyll and Astarion. She just goes around the camp asking men to fuck her.
It's true to real life. Women in the Army and Marines tend to be whores.
>It's true to real life. Women in the Army and Marines tend to be whores.
It's gross. Then she expects you to love her after she's probably been run trough by hundreds.
>Women in the Army and Marines tend to be whores
Accurate, but consider female sailors on ship.
Never met anyone in the military who wasn't a whore.
Just the number of ways you learn everyone faps into their underwear and fucks each other behind hall monitors or on the ships makes it sound like a brotha.
she fucked my friend's character during his first long rest, just after meeting the druids
>Act 3 starts
>everyone’s questlines are coming to a head at once
>tfw get crippling choice paralysis between who’s quest I want to complete and who’s opinion/reactions I want to hear during dialogue
I fucking HATE the 4 person party limit so much.
Take Jaheira to bank, other two don't matter.
Recruit Minsc. Resolve his questline.
Complete murder myster /w Jaheira and Minsc since they have unique dialogue for Saverok.
Complete House of Grief /w Jaheira, Minsc, and Shadowheart.
Do House of Hope with Lae'zel and anyone else.
Do Astarion's questline with him and anyone else.
Do Iron Throne with Wyll and anyone else.
Do Ansur with Wyll and anyone else.
Thank you. It’s very autistic, but I can’t even express how much you just helped me. Now I can finally complete this shit
Oh, and obviously take Gale to Sorcerous Sundries. It helps to have Knock to get through the vaults.
also take karlach with you when killing gortash.
The game is meant to be replayable anon fren. Which holds up. My first run was good sorcerer run.
My second run immediately after finishing first one was dark urge ranger. It felt entirely different. More so with companions I didn't get to use in last run.
>game is meant to be replayable
>when even a playthrough that doesn't cover everything is at least a good hundred hours long if not more unless you skip a lot
how
It's easy. Don't try to 100% everything in one run. play your character. Does a potential quest sound like something they wouldn't be interested in? Then don't do it. You're only hurting yourself by XP maxxing, it's capped at level 12 anyway.
yes, but it won't cause a game over.
Bioware put out a comic to confirm Miranda fucking Jacob.
>Bioware put out a comic to confirm Miranda fucking Jacob.
which comic? pretty gross they would do that to Miri. I know I like Kasumi less because of all the jacob lusting shit. Like I romance Tali and even her making out with Garrus if you don't romance her doesn't bug me, but Miri or Kasumi fucking jacob is disgusting
I hate wyll more than I hate jacob, because jacob actually did things in the game that were functional and useful. All Wyll does is cast counterspell worse than Gale. I won't even give him credit for finding karlach because you could wonder upon Anders on your way to the risen road. All wyll does thoughout the whole game that is positive is give you that dragon quest. If you could get it with him being dead I'd just kick him out/kill him
>Wyll is useless
Wyll is a warlock. He isn't supposed to be your counterspell slave. Warlock is very flexible in what it can do. Alternatively just reclass him to be more useful honestly.
On my first run, I reclassed Gale to be n Eldritch Knight. You know, him keeping his magic a bit while being an armored menace with a greatsword.
Alternatively, you can build Wyll to be Dual wielding pact of the Blade warlock. Have him cast Hex, dual wield 2 weapons. Stack barious 1d4 damage bonuses.
Congratulations, he now hits like a truck. Granted, you do have to multiclass into something like Thief rogue for additional bonus action or fighter for actual another action + action surge.
>flexible
>only 2 spell slots per short rest
The game already gives you a ton of marshals though with Lae'zel, Karlach, halsin, minithera and shadowheart all being able to front line
Game also gives you ways to restore those spell slots. Game also actively encourages you to use Eldritch blast and use your skills tactically.
Best way imo is still to play Pact of the Blade and invest in melee.
Best way to play warlock is to use it as a 2-5 level dip and pick up Sorceror, Bard, or Paladin
I very much liked dipping warlock in thief Rogue. You can 2 attacks, 2 bonus attacks. Stack shitton of 1d4 damage bonuses. Shapeshifter's ring, Acid ring, gloves for extra damage.
Cast Hex, proceed to do buttload of extra damage because of how stacking damage modifiers work.
It's only replayable because you will almost certainly miss content and some stuff is locked.
First time I did Act 2 I completely missed the Light's Hope Inn or w/e it's called and obviously didn't do the Curse questline.
I killed the Drider and everyone at the camp and stole the Moonlantern.
You can also go to the Inn and join the ambush on the Drider or get ambushed if you're escorted by the Drider. You can also ambush the Drider after slaughtering everyone at the camp which makes it look like he's talking to himself more than usual.
I intimidated the drider and his buddies into giving me the lantern and going away. They immediately got fucked by the curse and died screaming. Good laugh
Second run is faster. Because you don't nearly have to explore as much. Since you know how to resolve some of the puzzles, where to get shit, where to find quest objectives etc.
What is different is ways of solving it.
For example, I found out that you get ENTIRELY different interactions if you go to Balthazar first and help him capture Nightstong. Then go to Ketheric where he'll praise you for helping with Nightsong capture. Game has some mad polish at points that accounts for player doing things differently.
Game is polished until Act 3 in my experience then it all falls apart.
Larian has a lot of cleaning up to do in the last third of the game, maybe make the ending not a mess too.
as someone who played through acts 1 and 2 twice, the game is way worse the second time. Knowing where everything is in the underdark makes that whole section a slog where as the first time I played it it was super fun
>slog
The Underdark is super short unless you fuck around in the upper section of Grymforge.
>game rewards you for hating 80% of the companions
Frogwife, shadowcuck and withers as a dwarf wizard. I dont even want anyone else in my camp, especially not any UGLY FUCKING WHORE BARDS HAHAHAHA
your minmaxxing is killing the fun just do a few different playthroughs
You literally have to even if you min/max regardless if you want to find everything and get Minthara
Unless you use a guide you will miss out on a lot of little bread crumbs
You do not have to find everything in one playthrough. Trying to do so is minmax
There's a party limit mod. Good for conversations, but it trivializes combat.
Is there a mod that just makes all companions be there during dialogue but you srill keep the 4 man during fights?
Can I wife forg and shadow heart in same playthrough?
No. You can have sex with the frog and start a relationship with Shadowheart, but you'll have to choose one once you decide to go further than a fling.
>Make a Githyanki character
>Make her not act like a Githyanki
What did Larian mean by this?
WTC is obviously moving the Gith'yanki lore forward. Orpheus is kind of a big deal.
At this point I wouldn't put it past WoTC to retcon Illithids in the future to be misunderstood aliens who aren't bad at all.
Did you not just play the game where Jergal tells you they don't have souls and a major plot point is that they don't have souls?
Like...if they get retconned it'll be years from now.
May I remind you of wizards treatment and retconning of Orcs in recent years? They aren't known for being consistent with their own lore.
Do you not see the difference between retconning old lore versus retconning lore you literally just doubled down on last month?
Yes, it does. An Illithid might want to be free, that's not exactly new, but they're not the person they consumed. He's not Balduran and he doesn't have a soul.
>He's not Balduran and he doesn't have a soul.
Not what the Emperor says, really weird.
He literally lies to you constantly...dude...are you serious right now?
Damn, that doesn't square up with The Emperor, really weird.
But it does. The Emperor is manipulating your thoughts and perceptions from the beginning. Call him out on it instead of cooperating with him, and he'll show you what he really is. An Illithid like the rest.
Shadowheart is better.
is there a mod for unlimited / free dyes? id kill to be able to recolor all my shit during a rest or something
basketful of equipment mod gives u multiple containers filled with every dye in the game
oh shit, thanks guys. putting that on asap
Mean monster girls that have a soft inside are my fetish. Lae'zel and Wenduag are both top tier.
She's surprisingly alright but I still don't regret nuking the creche to kingdom come in my first run and her people are still absolute cancer
why they make things like this?
...how did you find yourself in that situation?
The Emperor never says he has a soul or that he's Baldurian. He says he identifies strongly with his memories of who he was before, but also mentions how he loves being an Illithid.
More info can be found about how all his old "friends" were actually mind controlled by him.
I love RPGs that have a wide variety of scenarios like this.
>meanwhile game has over one thousand bugs to fix
so you can strip Shadowheart naked and make her succumb to her desires
Alright gays who has the worst cuck romance in the game?
I keep seeing shadowheart being posted so I think it has to be her
I’m right aren’t I?
>Halsin will never commit no matter what.
>Gale's always thinking of a literal Goddess.
>Minthara's had several partners in the past, but won't stray once in a relationship, and won't share.
>Shadowheart's had several partners, and is open to polyamory.
>Karlach only ever talks about a single friend, and is completely against sharing of any kind.
So Lae’zel is the only pure romance unless you cuck her?
KEK
>Karlach only ever talks about a single friend, and is completely against sharing of any kind.
But she had a line to me saying she didn't mind sharing
Proof, bud.
>til then
but still
That was before you could even touch her, as she's red fucking hot. After you fix her heart - it's all or nothing. Don't be disingenuous, friend.
Karlach will share you with Halsin. Like Shadowheart and Gale, she'll prevent you from dating other origin characters, but Halsin is fine.
Show me proof, bud. I tried my best because I really like them both, but she outright refused to share.
And I want to fuck Mystra
Gale please stop eating my magical items
My complaint is actually that he doesn't eat nearly enough magical items to make it matter.
There's so much trash to make it irrelevant.
Apparenlty she's not that good of a fuck. Gale fucker her and was fine with fucking balding gnomes afterwards.
Gale is also a fucking idiot
an extreme example of high INT low WIS
>Minthara will open up to me once she gets to know me
KWAB
Well, none of them will straight up cuck you unless you choose to do so.
But if by "cuck" you mean "has had sex in the past with other people" then all of them qualify.
WHY CAN'T YOU COMMIT?
That gremlin would be pure, at least. Blacked'zel has been run through.
shadowheart fans are suffering, anons. Send them your thoughts and prayers.
Shadowcuck is a filthy whore too. It's telling that the only defense Blacked'zel fans have in their pocket is "but Shadowheart". Whatever helps you copes with your attractions to roasties.
>Romance Lae'zel, she never ever wants to do anything with anyone but you
>Minty is the same way, Karlac too
Romance Shart, she wants to have a four-way with the drow and Halsin while you watch on the cuck chair (you literally don't get mentioned once)
oh...is this an Asterion anon?
>Asterion
You mean Lae'zel's other fuck buddy?
You should have mentioned that one, because she actually says she enjoyed it with Asterion and might do it again, while Wyll disappointed her.
i didnt take this seriously but 20hrs in at the mountain pass and shart says something like "better brief and forgettable shared moments than the obligation of romance" or something so yeah, she's not wife material
The only ones that may be wife material are Minthara and Karlach.
>Minthara would be a better wife than Lae'zel
lol wut. You hardly even know Minthara besides that one time she sucked your dick in the crypt.
Minthara is actually extremely loyal to you. It just takes a lot of evil deeds to impress her. She would make for an excellent wife.
What evil deeds are there to do past act I? Kill Nightsong
Kill Nightsong, wipe out Harpers by killing Isobel (which is batshit insane evil if you think about it). Kill the last actual Dark Justiciar. Make the dude who wants to revive the dead dwarf woman stab himself to death. Kill Wulbren and his gnomes.
Technically you can be evil to Minthara too by completely erasing her personality.
Oh also taking without a fight the Moonlantern from the Drider and then sending them off to death. Maybe I'm missing some other things too here and there.
>evil to Minthara too by completely erasing her personality
Can you recruit her after that?
Honestly, I have no idea. I don't think you can though? Considering her story is reliant on her having memories of past life.
I know she doesn't go around my camp trying to fuck all the male party members.
In like one of the first dialogues by the crypt on the beach Gale asks Shart of she has a lover back home and she says she only likes casual sex
>better brief and forgettable shared moments than the obligation of romance
But this is unironically true though
She was disrespectful to me so I killed her the first chance I got.
actual moron logic
>be trapped in cage
>I show up and wouldn't mind helping her out
>insults me
Yeah, you stay in the cage you dumb bitch.
>see the first person I met on the Nautiloid
>she bravely helped me escape
>leave her in cage because she didn't offer to fondle my balls if I free her
She's a total bitch at first, but know that it's because she's fresh from her Githyanki creche and doesn't know shit about Faerun. She acts hard because she's scared and confused, and this becomes more and more obvious over time.
I plan on doing another run with her in my party this time. I know they are a different culture but if you want to be saved maybe show a little appreciation.
I hear ya, but we're in a fantasy world here, brother. She's probably my favorite character, after 4 very different playthroughs. She was my least favorite at first.
>be me, teenage Gith'yanki girl
>kidnapped by Ghaik and mindraped by tadpole
>'oh fuck my people are going to kill me'
>ambush cute guy, too bad he's a thrall
>oh wow, he's not a thrall
>uwu maybe he can help me escape
>wow, he's really good at fighting
>uh oh, he's rescuing the cute elf
>better take the lead so he pays attention to me
>escape ship, get trapped by devilspawn
>cute guy shows up, but the elf girl is at his hip
>better act tough so he doesn't know I'm scared and lonely
Exactly. She's tsundere at first and then becomes...whatever the weeb word is for a devoted, loving girl. In rove
canon if lazarel was shadowheart
Lae'zel is the only one that canocally fucks Wyll, though. Karlach might be a suitable replace due to her ending though. It was soi bad that they had to add the option for you to join her in a patch.
She fucks Wyll IF you don't romance her, and then talks about how it was a waste of time. She has no interest in anyone else if you do romance her, unlike Shadowheart. And Karlach is beyond being a whore, she'd probably lose it from getting a firm handshake.
>She fucks Wyll IF you don't
She's still canonically willing to fuck him, though. That image is still canon. Also, I don't give a fuck about Shadowheart. She's also a whore. You guys can argue about which whore is the biggest whore, but they're all still whores.
Yeah, kinda. But the frog is a teenage whore who always always taught that sex doesn't matter, but she becomes violently monogamous. The Shar bitch has been a whore for 40+ years and even if you become emotionally intimate with her, she still is.
>I've been run through by dozens of guys in one night stands and used to be a raging cock slut, but I'm ready to settle down now.
That's still fucking gross. This is people in the west actually want now. "Her past doesn't matter. I just love her for her"
Maybe the frog girl fucked dozens of dudes before, but it doesn't seem like it. 1 or 2 tops, I bet. While Shadowheart will mention out of nowhere that she prefers casual relationships and orgies because they're easier and simpler
>While Shadowheart will mention out of nowhere that she prefers casual relationships
So does Lae'zel. That's basically the beginning of her romance. "I won't be your girlfriend, but I will be your lay"
By the Light of Lathander, if you actually feel threatened by Wyll you might be even more limp-dicked than him.
So it's basically picrel. That's still a no from me. I don't care if she's ready to settle down now.
Maybe. This is all headcanon but there's no official canon on the matter. She doesn't take sex seriously at first but quickly falls in love with you and then takes it very seriously.
Yeah, but how many others has she laid? Few, based on her background, fresh from the creche. While Shadowheart is easily 200+ after all her snuff orgies with Shar
Even the Shadowheart stuff you mention is headcanon if you want to get realistic. She doesn't actually mention any numbers or orgies specically. You just want to believe Lae'zel is pure because you like her more. They're both whores, bruh. You can't dismiss Lae'zel being one just because you like her more. They're both fucking nasty. If you're fine with her past, you're fine with her past. Just don't try to downplay it.
>They're both whores, bruh
But that's it. We know Shadowheart's a whore, we don't know if the frog is.
>we don't know if the frog is
We know the frog is. She goes around the camp asking me to fuck her and has sex with anyone willing. She also talks about preferring flings just like Shadowheart.
I don't know if I can continue this conversation towards my desired result without delving deeper into autism and schizophrenia than I'm comfortable with. So, this ends here.
frog > darkness
>frog > darkness
They're both filthy whores. This wasn't a conversation about which ones is better.
If you didn't want to engage with autism and schizophrenia then why are you arguing waifu purity?
I was willing, but I've reached my limit.
One is confirmed a filthy whore. The other, unlikely, but possible. Have you finished the game yet?
>One is confirmed a filthy whore. The other, unlikely, but possible.
One is a filthy whore. The other is a filthy whore but green.The only difference is you like the green one and are willing to kiss her while you try not to think about all the dick she probably sucked.
IRL I don't fuck women outside my race so I wouldn't fuck the frog either but we're not talking about that, anon. Keep the convo in context or don't, but don't bound back and forth, whenever it's convenient, like a gay
>IRL I don't fuck women outside my race so I wouldn't fuck the frog either but we're not talking about that, anon. Keep the convo in context or don't, but don't bound back and forth, whenever it's convenient, like a gay
So you don't deny that you're willing to kiss women that have sucked hundreds of dicks like Lae'zel. The only problem you had with that is Lae'zel is a different race. Blacked'zel fags are really something.
You are being ridiculously obnoxious and insecure.
I wouldn't worry about sex if I were you. You're unlikely to have it.
Your brain has been fried by porn and btw I'm 90% sure I'm talking to some subhuman pajeet or brownoid.
This insecurity at what amounts to a bad conditional one night stand is typical of micropenis behaviour.
Lae'zel fags would just say "At least she's willing to settle down with you in the end".
i wish i didnt already post my smug halsin, you will have to just imagine his ursine cock ravaging your disgusting shadowy slutbag since lord knows she makes you sit in the corner while it happens
Typical blacked'zel fag. No actual defense other than "but Shadowheart". Shadowheart is also a filthy whore too.
they all are, if you play your cards right (though Karlach will die soon)
>Posts a fucking hentai panel
>still pretends to have standards
Lmao fuck off, you're on level with any roastie
Who is that?
Not Wylliam for sure?
>Not Wylliam for sure
That mod still doesn't look white.
lae'zel literally says wyll is terrible in bed.
hell out of all characters in the party I feel like Wyll is a constant punching bag.
>lae'zel literally says wyll is terrible in bed
Probably because he was being too slow, soft, and sensual. For meaningless sex, she wants violence
>lae'zel literally says wyll is terrible in bed.
I'd imagine it's hard to be enthusiastic about fucking some gross frog whore. Astarion does better than him because Astarion gives off "I'll fuck anything" vibes.
>lae'zel literally says wyll is terrible in bed.
she never said that in my game. though, if she did I would make sure she died.
>hell out of all characters in the party I feel like Wyll is a constant punching bag.
good. I hate wyll
I would've liked Wyll more if he constantly didn't refer to himself by nicknames he gave to himself. It's just kinda cringe.
What's worse? The Blade of Frontiers or Shadowheart?
Blade of the Frontiers. Because Wyll keeps constantly referring himself in third person.
Shadowheart is fine. Refers to her as a person who is basically a Sharran brainwashed soldier. Makes sense that her captors wouldn't want her to even be tied to her original name.
shadowheart isn't a name she gave herself and fits with her lore, if cringy and doesn't she get called out by the other companions for having a cringy name?
Wyll routinely gets punked in dialogue by you. The options don't really exist for anyone else.
He's cringe personified, and he fails at life repeatedly in your presence.
a hero at heart
I would have liked wyll more if he wasn't black. Also in the fucking 10 mins it takes to walk from the grove to karlach he tries to fuck both Lae'zel and shart like 20 times
Because it fits with his facade of being a big hero but he can't pull it off.
>refer to himself by nicknames he gave to himself
It is against the code to give yourself your own nickname. You're not guaranteed the same nickname between groups, if they choose to adopt a nickname from another group due to their own discovery that's fine but you cannot explicitly tell them that's your nickname from a different group.
I have only met one person in my life who introduced themselves by a nickname. It was so jarring everyone had to have a discussion about how wrong it was. Until that point nobody thought about it but everyone agreed that a nickname must be earned.
In the ending, he literally gives himself a brand new nickname AND refers to himself via that new nickname. Which to me was utterly cringe inducing.
I honestly have no idea why I haven't talked him off adventuring on my good character run.
I forgot that he's after defeating the absolute going to be a... just a dude lmao
>gives himself a brand new nickname AND refers to himself via that new nickname
Fucking gross.
>I'm not a fan of this
Well that's just too bad because your nickname isn't yours to give out, it's for someone else to give you. The fact is you can't at all in any way suggest to people a nickname for yourself. If you meet someone ELSE with your nickname it's not your choice if you or they get to keep it, it's up to your mutual friends to decide and if you're lucky you might get a new one for free.
It's the fucking code. People who don't even know it's the code will know it's the code if they think about it. It applies to both men and women. You ask anybody, ANYBODY in the world if it's okay to give yourself your own nickname and the answer will always be no.
I agree with all that, I just wish more people called me (name)saw
I'm not a fan of this because I got a really cool nickname once and I'd like to use it in all situations, but it's never relevant or interesting in other contexts
Its so fucking dumb he calls himself >the blade of ect, when the dude has 8 strength and 13 dex. Dude is >le amazing blade, with a +1 modifier
>call him the blade of fartpiss
>make him a spellcaster with bad melee skills
Can't tell if he's supposed to be laughable or if Larian merged him with another character at some point like they did with others and the original blade and the sorcerer class were separate
>shows up to fight gobbos
>immediately uses eldritch blast
>somehow no one realizes he is a warlock
>supposed to be super elite
>2 random gobbo fags held him down and took his eye out like he is a moron
he didn't attack her he threw a potion at her
throwing potions at ppl do the effect on them
He's Pace of the Blade, he use Charisma.
Green Michael Jackson
ugly nose
>Chk
Indeed.
Why should I care about this?
you see, its a play on words chk and chink considering that chinks own 30% of larian
Yes, but why should I care about chinks owning 30% of Larian?
oh my heck!!!
I have 200 hours on bg3 and left a heckin 10/10 review on metacritic!
I need to change it heckin pronto! Thanks for the tip stranger
game is now no fun and unplayable for me
Startrash lost
Todd lost
>got btfo in the other thread then fled here right after
Lmao.
>he's still at it after getting blown the fuck out
>he got called out so hard that he even changed the hash this time instead of the filename.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/AWOJWn6buhtE%2BJuPAUZiGQ%3D%3D/page/1/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/x6vsFQsgjOs8zqcfWitLhA%3D%3D/
The dude is in these threads 24/7. He clearly has no life and decided to make it his life's mission to crusade against Larian. He's been at it for years now and isn't going to change his mind regardless of what anyone says.
Does that even mean anything when Swen personally owns 62% of the stock?
bro that game has so many skulls, blood and corpses the CCP would never allow a chinese release ever if they wouldnt make major adjustments
>Papa Sarevok wants you to kill Orin because she's a shit candidate
>Actively will help you do so
What a kind old man
It gets better.
He told Orin's mom to kill her.
>Be Orin
>Be Saarevok's daughter and granddaughter
>Have no Blackid traits (well, physically, at least)
huh?
why isn't there a option to mating press orin and impregnate her? I WANT TO FUCK ORIN AGAINST HER WILL! I WILL PARALYZE HER AND CRITICAL HIT HER WOMB WITH MY COCK
Because then I should have the right to fuck Gortash.
Yeah that's fine i dont care what gays do in their games man. i just want to fuck pussy!!!
She is very likely diseased.
All women are.
She does.
She steals your position and backstabs you. All the while stealing people's identities and committing crimes.
Blackid genes are strong in her with... alternative ways.
Anon... (physically, at least)
It was right there. READ.
My frogwife 🙂
Lae'zel is WEAK to being kissed mid sentence.
these bros are thirsting over vidya characters lmao
Thirsting over slutty video game characters that have been fucked by dozens if not hundreds of men.
Can't boot up street fighter, Jamal?
A black anon? Don't tell Lae'zel. She'll be on that dick in seconds.
He's gone 30 minutes without looking at Juri's feet, be gentle.
Rate my hag Seldarine Drussy I just made
Good luck on your adventure Grandma.
>Seldarine
She looks like a nice lady who fucks human shotas.
She only fucks half-elf shotas and teaches them that race mixing is bad
>Seldarine
Go all in, or go home dusk-friend.
>this kills the frog
Average lesbian relationship
>shart couldnt take the bantz
that chud edit really fits
>Shadowheart knew she would get her ass beat in a fight
>stabs Lae'zel while she's sleeping
Playthrough 1 is loving Shadowheart.
Playthrough 2 is seeing what she really is.
Her whole shtick in Act 1 is starting shit.
You can even call her out on it.
It's just crazy how different her personality can be.
If you romance her, she's all sweet and curious.
If you don't, she's bitchy and cold.
What leads Shadowheart to kill her like this?
Being a Sharran psychopath.
Love that sound.
Stop posting Wyll's hoe.
Should I be posting your girlfriend's bull Halsin?
Feel free. I don't give a fuck about Shadowheart.
>Doesn't go around camp trying to fuck all the men
>Won't cuck you with a bear druid
>Won't leave you behind to run off to hell with a black man.
The only good romance.
>recruit her
>can't believe I did all those awful things
Except, bitch, I did those awful things, and I enjoyed them.
What is this moralizing old hag doing in my camp? Have a change of heart now huh? Even though you were still simping the Absolute in act 1 when you weren't brainwashed?
Hypocritical cunt, not worth the time.
Anon, she isn't really judging you or moralizing. She will actually go along with with every single bad thing you want to do and even admire you if you're playing Dark Urge.
However, during the story she CONSISTENTLY hates any context of responses which relate to losing control.
Which is tied to her losing control over her own actions. She is still utterly ruthless but her simping for Absolute isn't her fault.
Not to speak of the fact that you got lucky with the Prism. Otherwise you'd be equally simping for Absolute.
What is more of a shame is that you potentially lose 4 companions to get Minthara. Yet she has missing lines for things that happen during story. THAT is not worth it.
>but her simping for Absolute isn't her fault
she literally does it when you have the sex scene, when she's not under the influence
She only does a 180 when she's about to be vegetalized.
Hence: hypocritical cunt.
well yeah, she is a w*man, of course she is both hypocritcal and cuntish
Makes sense though? Imagine believing in something to point of fanatical extremism. Suddenly you lose connection to it. You get confused, try to find your faith again. Proceed to get misguided again.
Then later find out what a piece of shit Absolute is when she's getting punished for incompetence despite her doing her best.
>What is more of a shame is that you potentially lose 4 companions to get Minthara
Definitely. Larian missed the mark on being evil period. History has shown players gravitate towards being good in games as it is. They needed to incentivize people to be evil with power or rewards, not hardcore punish them for it.
She is also extremely loyal to you.
I absolutely love that when you click on her, she says "In your name."
In different context, Absolutist cultists say "In her name" relating to Absolute.
Meaning she trusts you to point where she'll follow everything you'll put her through.
I like Minthara, just wish she would have more lines or reactions.
>I like Minthara, just wish she would have more lines or reactions.
They did say they would be willing to add more Minthara content depending on fan feedback. Hopefully they actually do it. I'm fine with all the other drawbacks to an "evil" play through as long as she gets fleshed out more.
They made Halsin from an NPC into a companion, due to player feedback. I suspect they'll do more for Minthara, in time.
Say what you will about Larian, but they do listen to the players (for better AND worse)
Divinity players remember how Larian straight up showered Divinity 2 with brand new questlines for cool gear, new feats, improved most aspects of the game and made it better over time according to feedback.
Larian's great in that regard.
>no one likes wyll because he is black and no one is going to put a warlock in their party because 4 of the top 5 most popular classes are all the cha face classes
>better rewrite his character to be super boring
>oh wait still no one fucking uses him and he is only slightly more popular as a starting character than the frog
Wyll's not bad, he's just boring. Like yeah, you're a tragic hero, so is fucking everyone else around here.
he and halsin are literally the 2 least interesting characters in the game
>Wyll is boring
Kind of, yeah? Honestly, still a massive improvement over someone like Jacob from Mass Effect 2. Who was complete waste of air.
He is quite charismatic good guy type character. Just wish he would shut the fuck up about being BlAde oF tHE FrOntIerS
>jacob
>write black character
>he cheats on you
>his dad abandoned him to start his own sex slave colony
bravo Bioware
hey, jacob did important shit like getting you free fire ammo early in the game and having pull to set up warp bombs before you got jack and then making a jackass of himself all the fucking time like when he calls thane a hired gun, even though he himself is literally a hired gun.
don't forget that he also fucked Miranda at least once, because there's some sadistic bastard at Bioware who wants to see everyone suffer
idk, I understood it like that the first time I played I think, but based on the IOS game its unlikely they actually fucked. Granted I thought Liara fucked that drell while I was dead the first time I played
I yet have to meet a single person who actually liked Jacob.
God, what a fucking piece of shit.
So compared to him, Wyll is a saint. It's just that Wyll suffers from the good guy syndrome which can make him a bit boring.
>tell submarine dwarf to take me to the Iron Throne
>Gortash pops up on the little monitor wagging his finger at me with a self destruct button
>okay
>go back and kill him
>his death causes several quest triggers to erroneously happen
>the steel watcher factory just blows itself up and the gnomes pat me on the back as if I did it despite never being in there
>the Iron Throne also blows itself up and I am given dialogue saying I saw Wyll's dad dead in the Iron Throne despite never entering there
>dwarf and the submarine also gone saying the Iron Throne blew up despite me never going in there
>okay whatever guess these quests are fucked now i'll go finish other shit
>karlach gets thrown through a wall by a cursed skull and triggers an arrest dialogue with a NPC
Holy fucking shit this game is so blatantly unfinished. Act 3 has been miserable with the bugs.
>anon skips content directly tied to Gortash
>is surprised when flags gets triggered
I didn't though? The game made it clear I can't go to the Iron Throne while Gortash is alive, so I killed him. Even if I missed something along the way, it doesn't change how obvious the Iron Throne and factory blowing up wasn't intended to happen given that my player character magically saw a corpse in a place they never visited
The Iron Throne is literally a race against the clock rescue mission.
If you went to the Fireworks Factory (quest starts in Rivington) you would've found notes about the self destruct devices.
If you actually talked to the Gondian leader you would know they had family being held captive. The Gondian quest literally goes all the way to to Act 1 when you free Barcus from the Windmill.
It's also weird that you wouldn't just save and go there anyway just to see...like how do you get to Act 3 and not know the game is all about exploration?
>It's also weird that you wouldn't just save and go there anyway just to see
I did and Gortash blows up the place. Again the game is telling me to kill him to get to the Iron Throne, but that makes the place also explode for some reason even though a dead guy can't pull the trigger.
I don't care too much about Wyll's father or the shitty aristocracy but it's still annoying.
He blows up the place after 4-8 turns depending on difficulty level. That's more than enough time to rescue the prisoners.
For me it was exploded as soon as I made the decision to go to the Iron Throne instead of turning the submarine around. Didn't even set foot, it blew up in a cutscene.
I've not seen that specific bug mentioned once.
So admittedly I looked it up and it turns out I noped out of the cutscene too fast because when the explosions began and Gortash mentioned corpses I figured that meant the whole place was done the moment I ignored his warnings. Though like that
said there's no reason not to assume the Iron Throne is doable after killing Gortash
There's no reason to assume that you wouldn't be able to got to Iron Throne after killing Gortash, considering he can't blow it up after he's dead. Same with factory.
Up to this point game has warned you every time (sometimes erroneously) that you're about to cuck yourself out of content, it doesn't here.
It's obviously a matter of game being unfinished and not taking the possibility of tackling Gort before IT and factory into account.
Imagine my surprise when I killed him during his inauguration. Image related.
(Darkness is a very, very powerful spell lmao)
It straight up on spot locks you out of Iron throne, it locks you out of Steel watcher foundry and Stop the presses quests.
Fortunately, I am playing Dark Urge. The satisfaction of killing Gortash during his greatest moment was absolutely fucking worth it.
I really want to recruit and romance Minthara on my next playthrough but I also want to make a fem Tav BUT I dont want a lesbo relationship with Mint so what the fuck should I do
>I dont want a lesbo relationship with Mint
why not?
the obvious solution is to make a futa
>make a futa
Based and more straight than male on female.
no, it's actually 125% gayer.
Make a male Tav with a female identity
it's 2023 brother, straight men can be lesbians
make custom companion tav and romance her.
Female body type, female pronouns, but with a dick.
If it helps, Minthara has barely any romance content and helping the gobbos locks you out of a bunch of shit.
My heart bleeds for Dammon. The fact that you lose Dammon is just so painful. Considering in act 3 he sells hands down best armor and gloves.
They should add an option to fuck female gobbos to make it even more worth it
>Chk
I'm something of a sck and fck guy myself.
>blow up the steel watcher factory so I'm not outgunned when I attend Gortash's ceremony
>can't actually attend it
>every guard attacks me
>enter the throne room
>no dialogue, just combat
>Wyll gets mad when I throw a grenade at his dad
WTF
They literally put the Gortash ceremony there so players wouldn't skip it and yet people still do.
It's like walking past the Grove man.
Not really, because I got the heads up on Gortash and the Steel Walkers, and figures that the invite to the ceremony was probably a trap, so I weakened him and then went to meet and talk. Didn't happen though, I just had to kill him.
For Gortash, I intended to use it as a bargaining chip, like hey, you're not so strong anymore, what can do you for me? as for Wyll's dad, I didn't realize that was his dad because I never talked to Wyll
>I didn't realize that was his dad because I never talked to Wyll
Lmao. Alright, that's understandable then.
>proceeds to sneak past restricted area
>blows up only thing that Gortash worked on for years
>blows up entire army that is the core of Gortash's power over the city
>is surprised that killing Wyll's dad angers Wyll
wtf
I give you that the no dialogue part does suck. Because you technically should be invited by Gortash himself speaking through the Steel watcher.
Is a kill everyone play through viable? Does the game react to it? It should technically be possible, right? Outside of NPCs like Withers.
It's possible AFAIK
To a point.
Just play Dark Urge. It's literally rewarding you for being a psychopathic murderhobo. However. Big however.
Play it on second run. That way you know which NPCs are and aren't essential and won't miss out on potential rewards.
Then go around and kill everything and everyone that moves.
Is it possible to flee from a non-boss encounter? Just like a regular one in a hub area.
Can you just kill Shadowheart on the beach, or not recruit her, and what happens later, since you need her box to not get mind controlled by the Absolute?
Yeah, you can just kill her while she's unconscious. There will be a cut scene where the artifact flies off of her and into your hands.
Thanks.
>Shadowheart approves.
I don't like Wyll because he looks incredibly fucking stupid with the horns and I'm not killing Karlach in any playthrough.
>I don't like Wyll because he looks incredibly fucking stupid with the horns
He is a cuck. like those are literally the horns of the cuckold. They literally look the same as historical representations of cucks
Speaking of cucking Wyll. Has anyone seen his dialogue for what happens when you romance him and then fuck Mizora? I want to see that.
she looks like she exclusively dates human males
Will Gale explode if I leave him in the teleporter
I played the beta, and I recall it saying that you can progress either in the Underdark or in the mountain pass, but one will lock you out of the other. Is that still true, and if so, which should I progress in?
You can do both, or at least you can go through the underdark then loop back around to the mountain pass.
I recommend doing it that way because you'll have levels and the shadowlands side of the mountain pass is closer to the relevant stuff
nah people are retarded. moving on to the mountain pass only progresses the druid/goblin issue and is still part of act 1
act 2 doesn't start until you get to the shadowlands. So all of the underdark, grymforge, mountain pass, monastary, gith creche all count as act 1. act 2 is the smallest act imo. act 3 is fucking massive. I don't know if it has so much content because i progressed a ton of quests from act 1 and 2 and their conclusions are in act 3 or if act 3 is always packed with content.
Act 2 has Moonrise Towers, Gauntlet of Sharr, Thorm's 3 Children, Gith'yanki gank fight, the Inn, the weird little nature kid, fishmen gank fight, hidden Sharr test in the middle of the city, Shadow-Cursed Vine miniboss, and maybe one or two other minibosses that I haven't seen.
It's basically the size of the Underdark+Grymforge at most.
out of those only the shar gauntlet and the mindflayer colony are on diff maps. act 1 just seems way more massive than act 2. act 3 also has a shit ton of extra maps. i just discovered a underwater prison and went to hell. Went to prison and broke into gartash's room before the corronation.
Funny enough. When you are done with the starting area, just go to one or the other. Then backtrack. You are actively encouraged to actually go to both. Since if you don't, you miss out loot and story progress.
Monastery especially has some absolutely sick gear + one of the best passive conditions in the game.
>You are actively encouraged to actually go to both
bullshit. I would never have even realized that was an option if I didn't see it here.
Are you European?
No. Better.
Well, that explains the lack of the explorer gene
you are almost certainly encouraged to do both of them because if Lae'zel realizes where the creche is she will demand to go there, but Halsin, gale and shadowheart all tell you to go though the underdark. I think if Lae'zel is in your party when you find the dead gith by the toll house she will want to search for more gith
It's just good to do both. There is zero downside. You get some nice exp. You don't miss out on anything in act 2. You get some really good items. And you also get to kill more arrogant piece of shit Giths along the way.
I got to give it to Gith though. Their encounters can be pretty challenging.
First time against the Inquisitor
>Misty Steps behind Gale
>heh nothing personal kid
>wombo combos him from 100 to 0
The Bridge encounter can be brutal too. Baretha runs to the team. Slaps one teammate twice. Action surge, kills another.
B r u h
Even when I did Command: Drop cheese on Kith'rak and stealthed up to them the iniative win she was still a problem.
Fucking parry and then their raiders do way more damage than 90% of enemies you end up encountering.
Funniest part is that you can actually sneak up to him and get a legendary weapon in act 1 that isn't the Blood of Lathander.
I love this game so much.
Yeah, that's what I was doing, but even then the fight was gnarly the first time.
Completely breaks Lae'zel's dialogue next time you speak to her too.
Oh, I think we did it in different way. I sneaked past behind him with invisibility. Then proceeded to use battlemaster disarm for him to drop the weapon. You have to almost perfectly switch to turn based mode and pick up the sword. Otherwise cutscene triggers with him flying off.
The sword just laid there for me and I picked it up after the fight.
at one point, Laezel threatened to leave my party if we didnt find the creche, unless I passed like a 20 persuasion check. kinda crazy to just randomly potentially lose your frontline fighter.... lmfao. can you imagine NOT savescumming?
Can just always reclass anyone you want. Zero issue whatsoever. It's awesome that she WILL leave your ass if you don't do what's personal to her.
I like it. Gives characters motivations instead of being certified Bethesda followers who do everything you wanna do without questioning you or having a point in them existing.
Larian makes their games knowing that you will savescum. I don't know if it's true of Baldur's Gate but in Divinity there were numerous failsafes that you cannot actually brick your save. You could murder literally every single character you meet and you'll still make it to the end. These failsafes gives them the freedom to let the player do whatever the fuck they want within the mechanics. It lets them make realistic and extreme outcomes for the player's choices, which results in more fun and if you don't like it, they know you can rewind.
you can do both, or at least you can do the underdark and then the mountain pass. Idk if you can do the pass then the underdark
If I get on the boat in the underdark, can I still go back and do the mountain pass?
Sure. You can actively teleport through zones too. Zero problem at all.
Perfect, thanks.
If you're in the Underdark and don't want to progress to the next Act, just don't use the elevator in Shadowforge. That's the moment the next one begins. It should give you a heads up when you try to click it that it progresses the story.
How do I make Lae stop drinking Lich Queen water?
She should stop after the Creche and get fully off it at the end of Act 2 after getting ganked multiple times and seeing that Orpheus is alive.
Just kill the whore and be done with it.
If you care about that, you can actually later "fix" both Shadowheart and Lae'zel''s fanatical devotion. Just progress the game, you'll see.
Y'know, if Githyanki are just humans evolved from the pressures of millenia of Illithid breeding and control...then why are their ears so long? What was the Illithid pressured design upon humans to make them green with long ears and tiny noses?
I WILL (slowly, once I fully figure out this modding shit lol) FIX HER.
Congrats, you made it 10x worse
Cope. I'm not dating your ugly wombat.
Looks like catgirl with shitty face paintings.
Those face spots are quite easy to remove if I wanted to. I'd love to just change intensity of them but it's actually quite complicated (harder than just removing)
Done. I haven't enabled my custom tattoo & skin color (i reinstalled the game on my nvme yesterday) but I've just finished painting her weird gith snake spots.
Looks fucking awful
ok
damn she way cuter tbh.
ignore crab morons like
Just eliminate the some space between her lips and her nose.
That's a lot better.
her eyes really are that small without makeup? painted frog looks far better
please have a nice day at earliest possible convenience
>Slutty
>Only agrees to sleep with you for sex with no strings attached at first
>Shuts you down when you try to talk about a relationship or love
>Grows to love you over the course of the game
Lae'zel is basically picrel
I found the Selunite Outpost in the Underdark, but have no idea where to find the Nightsong.
just keep going
Nightsong is part of the main story, you wont miss it
Thanks.
You won't find it until the very end of act 2
Oh, silly, you thought it was a cool sidequest? No, no, it's a part of main storyline, it solves itself 🙂
>70% of spells are concentration based.
>there is no feat for having 2 concentration spells at the same time
>here dear player, have Weapon Master/Armor feats feat which allows you to wield any weapons or armor you want! Haha, just don't lvl 1 dip into a class that gives you all that for free haha
Why. Why isn't there a feat for it.
i feel like multiclassing adds a level of complexity and cheeseability to the game that isnt needed. but itt seems like a lot of players have fun with it. i like the concept of going deeper into a class so i have to rely on my teammates insttead of being a wizard that automatically gets 2 turns, etc
ugly frog
You can make her laugh in the game by giving her the monk amulet.
a lot of the female gith can look pretty good but the men always goofy.
The professor doctor lady in the Creche is very pretty.
>asks you to literally kick a kid whose parents just died
What is wrong with you motherfuckers? How can you actually like this character?
You mean Lae'zel or Minthara?
Because Minthara does the same but if you take in Yenna, she doesn't disapprove.
I liked idea of recruiting Yenna in my head canon as Dark Urge. I get to train her later into being a murderhobo cultist.
Iblith
Truly a gamer. Whenever she gets a chance, she calls people by slurs. 10/10 wife.
As bonus, in order to get get you gotta kill refugees.
In the code, one of the flags for her romance is labelled
Refugee_Infestation
I mean, considering how the tieflings are described by the druids, makes sense.
Also
>Tieflings actively bringing threats to the camp
>Tieflings are literal hellspawn that go against the nature
>Tiefling refugee kid tries to steal a sacred idol
>Another tiefling refugee kid runs a wannabe thief's guild
>tiefling leader straight up offers you Kagha's assassination as an option
not true if you ignore the grove you can recruit her in act 2
bonus : you have everybody wyll and karlach included because otherwise if you kill the refugess they refuse to follow you
Too bad (or not) most of the thieflings die as a result so a2 is even more barren of content than it usually is. And I don't think you can do halsin's quest now.
Pretty sure that there's no point in doing that though> The tieflings still die. You lose romance with Minthara and just gain Wyll and Karlach.
Might as well just kill them to gain Minthara's favor too.
>her smirk when she repeats that she will cut YOU
>oh no laezel has been kidnapped by orin
>don't give a single shit and continue questing all around the city
anybody else? not sure if she's going to die but whatever loosing a companion is probably the most dumb shit they could have done so i cant bother
Meh, she'll manage. I have more important shit to do.
she's latina
don't ask why
I think I should've picked Karlach. Killing devilgarden gnomes in Avernus forever with her sounds fun
Already looking forward to my second playthrough.
I'm about 60 hours in and fighting ketheric at moonrise.
Why does withers have to brutally insult every single companion in the game when you go to talk to him?
hes a god, he doesnt give a fuck
Considering who he is... he shouldn't give a flying fuck about anything. The fact that Withers is even helping their sorry asses is a blessing.
Withers doesn't even seem like he wants to be there, quite the opposite.
He does probably what he think is necessary for the world.
He does have actually one soft moment though. But for that, you do a very specific thing and play in very specific way.
How did she defeat the Sharty? How did people suddenly realize Laezel is a better girl than the coomerbait?
Are we seeing a new Liara vs Tali (Laezel being Tali) unfold in front of us?
No. Miranda/Lae'zel supremacy
>How did she defeat the Sharty?
well, shart sharts the bed by being a whore so
Shadowheart is a boring slut. Ditched her for Karlach
>Shadowheart is sluttier than a fucking drow
>I can't wait to romance Minthar-ACK
Mortal wombat, what's the problem?
So is there any downside to getting the mark of the absolute from the gobbo priestess? I'm in act 3 and nothing bad happened because of it.
Like many other options of its kind, there is absolutely no downside beyond a tiny disapproval bump when you accept it
I'm glad my choices matter.
Unfortunately BG3 choices and consuquences are Telltale tier. The tadpole usage is of course the most glaring example
Even fucking nu-DX had a consequence for getting the win 10 update.
Not true at all. Game has actually instances where you constantly get encouraged to consume tadpoles. Yet if you resist and never consume one, you get lines of dialogue out of it. Which is neat.
Usage of the tadpole has very minor consequences but actual ones come with the astral tadpole.
A LOT of the choices in the game have actual consequences the more you play through the game.
>you get lines of dialogue out of it.
And? That's not consequence, that's just flavout.
flavor is part of the game
Flavour isn't consequences.
Yes it is. What are you talking about? When you bite something, the flavor is the immediate consequence, good or bad.
Same applies to a game. You bit, you taste. Doesn't matter if you like it, you made the choice to bite so you deserve the consequences.
If there's no mechanical consequences there's no consequences. Seems like you bit more than you could chew.
Isn't that embarrassing for you, vincke?
i did my playthrough never consuming a single tadpole. the emperor gets increasingly mad and frustrated about it.
pretty sure you can recruit the one time ogre backup squad if you have the absolute's brand
it does
Yeah, the downside is that you're a gay for letting some goblins brand you with some shit you already know is nonsense.
>you already know is nonsense.
Makes the absolute items actually work.
Bane on attacking is p cool.
Mark of the Absolute has no downsides whatsoever beyond roleplay. It's just that Absolute worshippers will recognize one of their own.
Only downside is that you let from roleplay perspective some goblin trash burn you.
This is my WIFE you're talking about
Froggy has such a way with words
Shes so sweet.
based frog enjoyers
>best WOTR romance is Daeran
>best BG3 romance is Astarion
what's up with the bi/gay assholes that makes them good
Male characters are always more interesting that female characters, so an interesting male character>an interesting female character.
I like how people see 4 people who look like this and still think it's a good idea to not do what's asked of them. Hmmm yeeeeesss, I think you'll need that intimidation check to convince me. Yes-yes.
DND logic
Honestly I am a bit disappointed by the Half-Illithid thing. So far there have been nearly zero dialogues relating to it? And I'm about 70% through act 3. :/
Iskwa
On sidenote.
Displacer beast form is one of the funniest things in this game. Haste the person with a beast/drink the potion.
Proceed to create 10 clones of yourself that create a an unpassable minefield.
If you're playing Thief, the extra bonus action carries over to the Displacer Beast form, for more clones.
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup. If you have split of 6 melee class + thief rogue, you can have 2 bonus actions and 2 bonus actions. Thus creating even more clones. It's absolutely hilarious.
Wat, the thief bonus action carries over when you shapeshift??? I guess i see Druid builds in my future.
Why? Displacer Form is a mind flayer ability, not dr*id
ewwww, total mindflayer death!!!!
Druid builds are pretty straightforward at points. They aren't really as flexible due to how Wild shapes and generally changing shapes works.
But it's pretty fun regardless. Displacer beast with some haste cocaine + some way of confusing enemy is one of the most hilarious interactions in the game.
Druids are hilarious if you can make party of 4 druids. The game already gives you Halsin and Jaheira as default. Reclass some companions into druids early, run around as 4 owlbears smacking shit.
Alternatively, play Durge druid. Get those sweet, sweet benefits since Durge has his own shape spell.
My Queen.
SHE'S NOT REAL ANON
ANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN
SAY MY NAME
WAIFUBERG...
YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT!
For me it's
>random NPC in BG3 would be a 10/10 in most other Western games
What happened to our vidya?