Chris pratt says he stomped koopas in the original MARIO BROS for ARCADE but those aren't koopas yet. Those are just normal turtles.
Chris pratt says he stomped koopas in the original MARIO BROS for ARCADE but those aren't koopas yet.
Chris pratt says he stomped koopas in the original MARIO BROS for ARCADE but those aren't koopas yet. Those are just normal turtles.
pretty sure they're actually called shellcreepers
they do look like koopas though
In nip they're just "Kame-san". The English translators gave them really weird names for some reason.
They were always Shellcreepers in the arcade version. It even says so in one of the intermission scenes. It's Japdevs that drank the kool-aid and simplified the enemy names for the home ports, which is why Sidesteppers were also called "Crabs". It wasn't until Super Smash Bros. Brawl came out that the record was sorta corrected and they went back to using their arcade names in all regions (save for Slipice because Freezie was already established in the previous game sadly). The next game did the same thing by doing the Nintendo equivalent of setting Japautists aside, looking them dead in the eyes, and shaking them by the shoulders and screaming "LADY AND PAULINE ARE THE SAME CHARACTER YOU STUPID FRICKS."
God I miss trophies, shame Treehouse incompetence pretty much single-handedly caused the whole "Smash is full of errors" misconception in the west and may have contributed to killing them off.
Interesting, didn't know that.
>"LADY AND PAULINE ARE THE SAME CHARACTER YOU STUPID FRICKS."
Pauline is introduced in Donkey Kong.
When is a character called "Lady" introduced?
>God I miss trophies, shame Treehouse incompetence pretty much single-handedly caused the whole "Smash is full of errors" misconception in the west and may have contributed to killing them off.
What's Treehouse? A Youtube channel?
>Pauline is introduced in Donkey Kong.
>When is a character called "Lady" introduced?
I'll refer you to the wiki's write-up, but: the Donkey Kong damsel had no consistent name in the early arcade days, the closest was her Japanese name "Lady" which is basically the equivalent to Mario's "Jumpman" placeholder but translators often rendered it as "lady", "Pauline" caught on around the mid-80's especially with the NES port in the West and later the 1994 Game Boy game in Japan, at some point Nintendo started to sometimes refer to the old design as Lady again for legacy reasons so Japanese and wannabe weebs alike both thought they were two different characters and some third-party Japanese media started implying that, eventually in the 2010's Nintendo put their foot down and confirmed they were always the same character. It's almost like the Kirby fandom's Ado/Adeleine moronation except a little more understandable since Japanese in fairness always associated the name Pauline with a radical redesign.
>What's Treehouse? A Youtube channel?
Nintendo of America division mostly responsible for localization.
Wasn't she named Pauline for that old 80s Donkey Kong cartoon?
Yep, as I said, mid-80's. Pauline showed up in licensed media and misc merchandise earlier than game manuals and promotional materials. She was also named after the (now ex-)wife of a NoA employee who managed the arcade cabinet warehouse, after the success of the arcade game.
>She was also named after the (now ex-)wife of a NoA employee who managed the arcade cabinet warehouse, after the success of the arcade game.
An important man involved nerdstuff, and their bawd ex is immortalized in nerd history? What are other examples of this. Off the top of my head Debian is named about Ian Murdoch's gf who left him. Debra + Ian = Debian.
Wouldn't be shocked if he was told to call them koopas. Any normal person would have just called them turtles, but Miyamoto loves backporting his homogenized rewrites.
>Miyamoto loves backporting his homogenized rewrites.
since when?
Since at least Sunshine, when he started telling everyone Bowser Jr is Bowser's only child and the Koopa Kids were "never" related to Bowser.
Just curious, why does this matter to you?
Because the Koopa Kids are cool and Bowser Jr sucks ass. Changing them to "Koopalings" and saying they're just random nobodies is an incredibly lame retcon when all it does is make room for a stupid, annoying character like Bowser Jr.
Yeah ok nerd
But they've been called the Koopalings since the beginning, what are you on about?
Weren't they still called Bowser's kids as late as New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Bowser Jr. wasn't called Bowser's "only" child until later. I think.
>But they've been called the Koopalings since the beginning, what are you on about?
I remember them being called the Koopa Kids and I never heard the term Koopaling until NSMB. I went back and checked the manuals and in SMB3 they're just called "Bowser's kids" but in SMW they do use the term "Koopa Kids" so that must be where I got that from. I didn't have Nintendo Power back then so I didn't see the article in your pic.
>Weren't they still called Bowser's kids as late as New Super Mario Bros. Wii?
Nope. NSMB Wii in 2009 was their first appearance since SMW. That manual only refers to them as Koopalings, then Miyamoto made a statement in a 2012 interview saying they're not Bowser's kids and Bowser Jr is his only child.
They must've flip-flopped sometime within the next 3 years.
The strategy guides were written by people outside the development team, usually Nintendo Power contributors. Whoever wrote that guide was calling them that because of their own past memory, the actual NSMB Wii manual never calls them Koopa Kids or Bowser's kids while the SMB3 and SMW manuals explicitly do. I'm quite sure in Miyamoto's mind Bowser Jr's introduction in Sunshine already retconned the Koopa Kids as not being Bowser's children, he just didn't say it on the public record until much later.
isn't it just as possible that the name "koopa kids" never expressly implied that they were actual children of bowser? Just because the english manual for the game says so doesn't mean that it wasn't a simple misinterpretation. It's not as if english translation in releases was a gold standard by any means in the 80s.
They were pretty clear that the Koopalings were Bowser's offspring, although they apparently stopped calling them that a lot sooner than the English side (supposedly SMB3's JP manual was the only one that directly said that, and by Yoshi's Safari they stopped those references altogether outside of a mention in a Bowser trophy in SSB Melee). The Koopalings were renamed in Japanese - they were originally some variant of "Kokuppa" (Little Koopas/Bowsers), but in NSMB Wii it was more like "Bowser's Minions" (which is why Nintendo of Europe went with that name for a while) and eventually "Kuppa 7 Ninshuu" (Bowser 7 Team). Kuppa/Koopa more specifically refers to Bowser in Japan, not really the race, hence the renames. English also seems to be a bit more lax since they Koopalings are still referred to as siblings on occasion but Japanese for some reason no longer mentions that either.
I wonder how true that story is when the first episode aired about a year after the initial NA release (July 15, 1989 via PlayChoice-10 vs. September 8, 1990).
They've been called the koopa kids ever since the cartoon, wtf are you on? watch the intro
The cartoon that gave them all the wrong name.
They were unnamed in the Japanese SMB3 (were just called the Koopalings), and the cartoon was made before the English localization was done. Technically it was Nintendo of America that gave them the wrong names.
>Big Mouth
>Changing them to "Koopalings"
They were always called "Koopalings" in official Nintendo media. The "Koopa Kids" was just a name used in the DiC cartoons.
>The "Koopa Kids" was just a name used in the DiC cartoons.
And in the Super Mario World manual. It says "koopa Kids" right there. Obviously the lower case K on "Koopa" is a typo, but they do capitalize the K in "Kids."
Should note that "Koopalings" was also used by the SMB3 cartoon as well.
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>Master Shiggs living rent-free in anon's head
More like the popular standard term became "Koopas" because of games like Mario Party using it. Do you really expect the average normalgay to remember and keep up with "80s Mario playground" canon, including the original word for these enemies: ducks?
So you were that kid who called the NES controller a "remote", cartridges were "tapes", and called the koopas (which are clearly tortoise-like creatures) "ducks" ? Did you also say Merry-oh?
Uh SIR I called cartridges GAME PAKS.
Okay?
I sure showed you, huh?
Do you also refer to the console itself as the CONTROL DECK since the NES actually refers to the entire set-up?
Um, YES?
>the NES actually refers to the entire set-up
Don't you DARE give the Sega System autist this idea.
They're called cassettes in Japan.
Trying too hard, shitposting troon.
This isn't for you.
Find another way to kill your time.
You doing okay anon?
>Did you also say Merry-oh?
Slowbeef and my grandmother do this.
I used to chastise my grandmother for this.
I thought the Retsupurae guys pronounced "Mario" like that because they were Canadian.
>I thought the Retsupurae guys pronounced "Mario" like that because they were Canadian.
No. Slowbeef is from Brooklyn and Diabetus is from the American South.
Reading comprehension
And levels were called "boards"
and bosses were called "mayors"
lmao my grandpa said “Merry-Oh” and he was 100% full-blooded “Eye-Talian”
Are you autistic, anon?
>cartridges were "tapes"
Yes, that's correct.
based.
obsess elsewhere mindbroken Black folk
>australia-kun trying to use Trevor
Any normal person would've confused them for Koopas.
You also don’t stomp them in this game. Guy’s a moron
more importantly you don't stomp koopas in Mario Bros, you flip them over and attack their weak point for massive damage
Why do the Japanese hate giant shelled animals so much?
It's not hate, but there's a popular turtle-lile folklore monster tribe called Kappa in japanese tradicional legends.
Grudge for Kappas stealing their anus balls.
Why is Japan so fascinated by anuses?
You would be too if you had dragonballs up your anus.
Right because people were claiming that guy was smart. For all we known he was playing coin op SMB3. Horrible fricking way to play that game by the way but it was a thing.
>For all we known he was playing coin op SMB3. Horrible fricking way to play that game by the way but it was a thing.
there was coin-op smb1. never a coin-op smb3
It never got a playchoice 10 release?
It did.
Sometimes I glue my thumbs to my chest and pretend I'm a t-rex.
No you don't. You're full of shit.
I wanna lick her cloaca
> Chris pratt says he stomped koopas
And Kevin Smith is a He-Man fan since childhood, yeah
dude was born in '79, if he really was playing the arcade version of mario bros or super mario bros he would've probably been too young at that point to remember it properly now anyway.
CHRIS PRATT IS NOT A GAMER
MARIO BELONGS TO THE GAMERS. WE CAN'T LET HIM DO THIS TO US, BROS!!!
Being pedantic doesn't make you look clever.
For 1986 and early 1987 people thought of SMB as an arcade game. The NES didnt take off until christmas 87.
I am a few years older than pratt and Laundromats were indeed amazing back then.
That's where I first played Mario was a cabinet at a laundromat.
I don't know why but it always feels weird to think of SMB as an arcade game.
>I don't know why but it always feels weird to think of SMB as an arcade game.
It's also difficult to imagine playing the game on those stiff arcade sticks. I assume they're stiff, since most arcade sticks are up/down/left/right NO DIAGONALS.
Every Nintendo cabinet I've ever played on has had loose, sloppy joysticks with very low precision.
Nintendo VS. cabinets are 8-way joysticks so they have diagonals.
By coincidence I managed to 1cc VS. Super Mario Bros without using warps a few days ago, but I still consider my run to be a little bit of a cheat because I used an LS-32 + seimitsu buttons instead of a real Nintendo lever. The LS-32 is a lot easier to use.
>By coincidence I managed to 1cc VS. Super Mario Bros
What does "1cc" mean? I know "cc" is a term in racing but I don't know it's applicability here.
1cc = one credit/coin for a playthrough. I forget why old arcade game playthroughs are called cc, but they are.
>I forget why old arcade game playthroughs are called cc
Because you insert a coin to gain a credit, you literally just said it in the previous sentence. Do you have alzheimer's so bad that you forgot what you wrote in the prior sentence?
Good job being wrong, homosexual. See
then go frick yourself with a rusty pineapple, c**t.
>I forget why old arcade game playthroughs are called cc
xcc = x credit clear
For much of 1986 super mario was on the top 5 list for top earning arcade games.
Isn't "Koopa" some kind of American-Italian mafia slang, same as "goomba"? They should've called princess "Goomar" as well.
No, Koopa is from the Japanese version. It's "goomba" that was an American localizer invention.
What are goombas called in Japan?
Kuribohs. Called such because of their resemblance to chestnuts (kuri).
>the brown mushroom enemies with both a brown cap and beige stalk are named after chestnuts
Weird.
Yeah, it's weird. They're explicitly called mushrooms in the manual too.
Goomba = Kuribo (chestnut guy)
Galoomba = Kuribon (chestnut boy)
Goombrat = Kakibo (persimmon guy)
Goombud = Kakibon (persimmon boy)
>Galoomba = Kuribon (chestnut boy)
>Goombrat = Kakibo (persimmon guy)
>Goombud = Kakibon (persimmon boy)
When were those incorporated? I don't remember ever hearing those terms.
In the US they were all just called goombas until Mario Maker put them all in one place and they were forced to identify them with separate names. Galoomba, for instance, is the Super Mario World goomba but it was just called goomba until Mario Maker, but I guess in Japan they always had a different name?
>I guess in Japan they always had a different name?
Yup
Galoomba is what the round Super Mario Bros ones are called now, they invented Goombrats (Goombas that don't walk over edges) in NSMBU, and they had to invent Goombuds to be the SMW version of a Galoomba in Mario Maker 2
There's also Goombo = Chibibo, from Super Mario Land.
I always thought the goombas were bad mushrooms because https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=gomba but then I found out about the nipnong name "kuribo" which means something like "chestnut-y" (think of "-bo" as an ending in Nip similar to "-y" in English; whereas "Mikey" would be an affectionate diminutive of "Michael," "Aki-bo" or "A-bo" could be one for "Akihito"). To me, callin'em "chestnuts" is just fricking wrong. Dem homies does not look like no chestnuts. Dems is mushrooms.
lol
That's what I was thinking, but maybe he meant the SMB arcade cabinet, not OG Mario Bros.
They're not chestnuts, the manual very specifically calls them mushrooms
>Kuriboh: An evil mushroom that betrayed the Mushroom Kingdom. Can be defeated simply by stomping. 100PTS.
Chestnut mushrooms are a common type of mushroom.
They're not called chestnut mushrooms in nip, though.
They are. Kuritake is literally “chestnut mushroom”
Not kuritake, but TSUkuritake. Literally "usable mushroom".
that doesn't mean "usable", it's referring to 作り which more than likely refers to how you can make food with it. "usable" could be interpreted one way as this, but given that's not exactly the use of the kanji, it would be more accurate to translate its literal meaning as "cooking mushroom".
I'm struggling to verify whether or not there is a くりたけ that also matches the nomenclature origins of "chestnut mushroom"
>that doesn't mean "usable", it's referring to 作り which more than likely refers to how you can make food with it. "usable" could be interpreted one way as this, but given that's not exactly the use of the kanji, it would be more accurate to translate its literal meaning as "cooking mushroom".
Fair, English isn't my first language and I wasn't entirely sure how to word the translation.
Neat.
>Chris Pratt isn't an autistic zoomie who identifies as a quite the retro gamer
Sounds like a pretty cool guy
you can't stomp on them, he didn't play the fricking game
If Mario ever had cannon... they were called 'turtles' before he entered the mushroom kingdom. Mario learned that they were called Koopa Troopas and minions to King Koopa.
Jesus man, give it a rest
This is some next level autism
Shellcreepers were never established as the same kind of turtle as the Koopas despite their similarities.
One could forgive Pratt for calling them koopas.
However, if he really played the game a lot he'd know you don't stomp on them.
You do after you flip them
No, you kick them.
You can do both once they are flipped
That's nice, dear.
I mean, TECHNICALLY, he's not totally wrong. Shellcreepers are considered the root member of the Turtle Tribe, or in other words, Koopas. The tentative names of several turtles in early SMB documents even all ended in "-Creeper" so Koopa Troopas may have been Shellcreepers at one point. He is 100% wrong about the "stomping...in Mario Bros. Arcade" part though, you kick them off the platforms after they're stunned. Wasn't there a similar controversy when the movie cast was revealed, where one of the voice actors clearly didn't know what the hell they were talking about? Was it Chris Pratt again?
Chris was talking super mario arcade not regular mario.
everybody called them koopas after SMB came out. not everyone bought vidya when it released, lots of us bought our NES games for 99 cents at Gamestop.
Wow, man calls thing the name everyone knows them by.
Comic book ads in the early 80s is where we learned enemy names and other limited lore for arcade games. Game magazines didnt exist yet.
And matching commercial on Saturday morning.
My childhood dentist had a Mario Bros. cabinet in the waiting room, set to free play. Played it a bunch because I had a messed up mouth (had to get almost all my baby teeth pulled out).
>foreign subs knew that "stomping...KOOPAS" was so cringey in the Mario Bros. context that they tried to fix it in a vain attempt at damage control hoping not enough watchers were ESL to point it out
You can't make this up.
What do those moon scribbles say?
It literally replaces the phrase "stomping Koopas" with "kicking kame-tachi (turtles)"
Like it's SUPPOSED to be.
Based European version with the ability to change where you land mid jump.
that's part of every release after the first nes/fc version.
chris pratt used to stomp on goombas and then ride the goomba shells in mario 3