Game is so easy, no raid group ever wipes. Why the fuck would you farm anything? Unless you are the main tank.
Bet you were in a guild doing loot council as well.
can already do that with mangodb's classic singleplayer private server. Can change bots however you want, have scripts where you can control them real time, can save edit for whatever items you want, you can scale your damage to do single character instances, etc. Pretty fun for a nostalgia trip, if lonely.
it's pretty easy, just follow the instructions here:
https://github.com/celguar/spp-classics-cmangos
use the client here:
https://zremax.com/blog/vanilla-wow-client-download
optional: change bot settings in the config files and use the bot commands here:
https://www.briankoponen.com/world-warcraft-single-player-server-bot-control/
Like the other anon said, no way I'm giving activision money for a brief nostalgia trip. Haven't played WoW otherwise since I was in high school and modern retail seems really dumb and gay
Why dont they just release something new in the spirit of classic, like, we had Wrath of the burger king, do a cool xpac now, pirates or something or maybe go into the future with guns and new york city
i'm torn between rogue, priest and paladin/shaman. i enjoy mutilate so being able to do that would be nice and i've always preferred daggers to swords. priest is getting penance and probably more tools for shadow. paladins are apparently high dps contenders now, though i prefer healing
>People say the best thing about classic is how different it is from retail and how every class has its own unique role and there's differences between factions >They release a new update that adds retail abilities, retail like raids and removes the differences between factions >Classic players cum and shit and piss themselves in excitement
> how every class has its own unique role
I don't think this is very true, and leans more towards >one class can tank the best >also it does the best melee DPS
Like Rogues do not bring a single thing to raid that a Fury Warrior does not to better. Classes besides Warrior generally have ONE spec that works for 60 content.
Classic stopped being "vanilla" the third day it came out and everyone just sat in SM or ZF with ravagers spinning in circles 24/7. The people who played normally eventually had to group up with these homosexuals. Nobody mentally well would have kept playing past their first level 60 for long.
The vast majority of classic "fans" are just retail homosexuals who were against it but are now into it because it's the popular thing. And retail playerbase means that classic cant stay classic.
Not like it ever even was lmao.
>retail without the ugly wod models, meme races or all the good characters being killed off >also maybe even with the propaganda scaled back a little since classic is clearly not blizzard's main focus
I'd play that.
>so emmm.. we tweaked some records in the database to bring you.... CLASSIC+++++++++ >fans cumming in their pants
If anyone honestly pays for this monthly he deserves the rope, private servers put more effort and you get it for free
Most people unsubscribe when they run out of things to do. They release content for Classic in between content releases for Retail, as a way of preventing "there's nothing to do for 3 more months" feelings. They ran out of pre-existing Classic content, so they started adding minigames like Hardcore and Seasons and Discovery as a way to fill those gaps without spending a lot of time or money. Really, it's just 2 versions, Retail and Classic, and they're on the same subscription.
They literally rushed this so hard the level cap is only 25 while they figure out the rest of the gamemode? Also, the warlock tank thing is so retarded. All of its abilities are exactly the same as bear/warrior. They couldn't have come up with something more interesting or different? Tanks must only have this exact playstyle?
the issue with classic is it takes so fucking long to level so you'll have dudes running around in full t2 whilst little jimmy just got to 60. There are a couple ways to combat this, you can increase the xp rate, or you can level gate people. SOD chose the lesser of two evils, they are not only level gating they are releasing new content at these gates, its genius really.
yeah they could have had a buffed up curse of weakness, a buffed up armor spell, and buffed up drain abilities. but that stuff is all affliction spec and demon form is cooler so there u go, idk
Until they add actual, new content that isn't reshuffling of assets a modder could throw together in a day or two, is it really Classic+?
Would they dare to implement a new class?
Any new thing especially a class will just be met with too much negativity. "Per my reasoning I won't explain why I think this is retail shit, but it is so its not my Classic+".
Blizzard is right. Half of the servers are already dead. There's no point in wasting money so a few hundred autists can play the game forever. It may be the most popular expansion but there's little content once you're past the quest and rep grind.
>wasting money
people pay monthly to pay, in addition to whatever other cosmetic bullshit they buy. There's no reason they can't leave up a few servers, especially when other games they own have kept servers up indefinitely (see, sc1/d2/wc3) which are way more dead.
The cost of a server and labour to maintain wouldn't be high but it would cost way more than a very small pool of players contribute with subs. What exactly about Wrath era servers would be enticing? Raiding ICC a hundred times to min/max parse numbers?
>what would be fun
you wouldn't get it, loser >would cost way more than a very small pool of players contribute with subs
based on what, your feelings? You don't even know how many people are currently playing wotlk. If they consolidate it to a server per region it'd absolutely stay populated. Especially if they rotated a reset into it every 18 months or so.
They are dead because no one wants to fucking pay $200 a year to raidlog 15 year old content. Especially considering Warmane is free and on the same shit and will actually last. The only people that play are rmt naggers that have to or their indonesian family will starve to death
>only people that play are rmt naggers that have to or their indonesian family will starve
Anon, this felt weirdly personal. Do you often obsess over finding ways to insult Inodensians in casual conversation?
>Do you often obsess over finding ways to insult Inodensians in casual conversation?
not him but I do, I hate indogs, pinoys, slopes, slants, chinks, asiatics, chang, chong, nips, dogeating naggers all of em, I just personally don't enjoy them as a whole, and I like to talk poorly of the on the internet
The Nips are the only tolerable race of East/South Asians. Honestly, I wish more of them immigrated because I'm tired of Pajeets making every grocery store stink.
After the MS buyout of ABK they're no longer under Activision. Maybe things will improve without Activision oversight of them, or nothing changes even with that, we'll see.
They arent changing the quests and the cinimatic hand holding story driven experience is the worst thing about retail wow imo. I much prefer classic questing.
There are going to be more runes for other slots later, we're talking like 40+ runes PER CLASS assuming they're not gonna skimp out and do some generic ones to pad things out.
>assuming they're not gonna skimp out and do some generic ones to pad things out
I'll laugh so hard if their "solution" to the reputation thing is to just give you a rune at exalted that increases reputation gain with that faction
There's still like 9 item slots that can be assigned a rune, assuming they don't double dip with rings and trinkets and only one "weapon" rune rather than wep/shield-offhand/ranged being separate. Assuming 3 runes per slot, that's over 40 runes in total.
paladin main with a rogue alt. ill main the rogue if they get good runes but so far what was shown is kinda meh. maybe ill go melee hunter instead of rogue.
do they intend to make any of the content actually difficult? and i don't mean shit like "this boss has 30% more HP and does 10% more damage with its single braindead mechanic"
>me
Forgot about that rune, fuck it, Shammy Tank
I play Warrior, Paladin and Shaman in main Classic so I thought I'd try Druid for literally the first time in 17/18 years
The way it works you can only rune toward cat or bear specialization, feral isnt one uniform talent tree. Windfury is cat specialization, so to get windfury means you would not get the damage reduction in bear.
You don't really need it outside raid content though, windfurry would just be better for threat and melee damage, unless you're running a full caster party.
The way it works you can only rune toward cat or bear specialization, feral isnt one uniform talent tree. Windfury is cat specialization, so to get windfury means you would not get the damage reduction in bear.
Anon you can't aimed shot from shadowmeld in classic, that's vanilla only. You'll get dumped on before you get your aimed shot off. Send your massive ass pet that they can't get rid off at them instead
Chimera isn't going to oneshot anything, ranged weapons have like 40 damage on the high end at that level. 125% of 40 plus whatever bonuses you might scrounge up is barely going to tickle considering all the extra gear people have.
45 yards is how far track humanoid goes. and iirc track hidden stacks so you'll see stealthers at a minimum of 10 unless they use vanish's more powerful stealth and even then you'll still hear them
It will have new content but slowly. They are already doing it with this 25 cap and new raid. They teased other raids like Kara Crypts (which is endgame) so they are easing people into Classic+ and not just releasing everything at once. They said they want to test stuff out and see what people like.
I never thought those rune abilities could be so disappointing. >Check the mage ones just because sure maybe there could be cool stuff >One for fire mage >One for frost mage >One for arcane mage >One for retail disc priests
I always said Classic+ would be a terrible idea (because it's made by modern Blizzard) and they proved me right
I wish they rebalanced racials or just removed them. Would be cool to have actual population balanced factions. It's just going to be 90% horde again since they are by a huge margin just the better PvP faction
Nah let them ruin the game by making paladins overpowered because it's the pet class of all the streamers. They deserve to suffer for their obvious attempt at marketing
They can.
The question is still whether or not it will ever be worth taking one over a warrior or even a lock/druid.
Rogue tank is even more meme-tier.
How do these content creators and regular players play classic for 15 years straight?
I have gotten rank 1 on retail and raided every expansion, and classics content; its not bad, but its so limited it gets samey SO fast.
Leveling is literally a one button rotation for 300 hours on grinding trash mobs since quests give no xp.
raids are try not to fall asleep tier, with no challenge whatsoever.
Whats the appeal?
Classes have a unique role, but its shit like oh, balance druids bring their crit buff to other spellcasters, shamans for their totem buffs aoe healing, ect its not an encompassing playstyle, that will live you wanting more, but rather an attendance call, since you play X class you already forfill your role.
I would literally argue a basic ass bitch roguelike made by 1 dev in a sea of 1000s of these games has more depth, and replayability than alll of solved classic wow
>I've had friends try other games and they were dogshit at them so they stuck with wow
if you have 3 choices of food, and all of them are shit from various mammals, would you eat the least vile shit or would you fast? yeah that's right, that's why i'm not playing any MMO's currently. Last one i played was New World, but i got bored after a while, still the gameplay was interesting and actually fun.
did they forget how to make new games? wow is so formulaic now, so predictable, all expansions are basically the same shit, it's boring as fuck, the GAME IS FUCKING BORING! make it about skill and gameplay, not everyone should be able to finish all the content and that's ok, the game is too fucking easy, that's the reason why it's boring, we should have more randomized gear, we should have more tiers of gear, we should have more optional bosses, we should have more rare world bosses that take a raid to kill and actually drop good gear to make it pvp worthy... game is fucking boring because the designers are shit
and just following the same formula
The game from a reductionist perspective is clicking a one button rotation for 300 hours to hit 60, and than spamming a 3 button rotation in MC.
Its literally cookie clicker in a fantasy world.
But hey wait it benefits from the druid talents! Now let's see here at level 25 you will have 15 points to spend. Ok so 5/5 improved wrath = .5 sec cd off wrath...does nothing for starsurge since it has no cast time already okay good.
And you only get 15 talent points so uh you don't even get a single talent that actually buffs this pile of shit rofl.
druid with 1000 spellpower casting starsurge deals 10x more damage than a prot pala with the same tier of tanking gear casting avenger's shield
my main grip with spell descriptions is that it doesn't show scalability
Were gonna be capped at level 25 for over a month, good luck racking up 1000 spellpower. Take a look at this comparison, why would you EVER play a druid over a shaman? It's ridiculous.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>why would you EVER play a druid over a shaman
because alliance has no shamans
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's true, a hunter/lock/mage/SP/pala will do though, they're all way more powerful.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
damn with damage like that it's basically a fucking pyroblast around that level, probably even stronger and with a 2 second cast time AND it's probably always gonna crit since they are always gonna be flame shocked before you use it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
god its so weak, literally does less dmg than wrath, probably one of the weakest spells ever. they need to at least set this shit at like 90-120 minimum.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
even with 5/5 Vengeance druid talent, this will still do less damage than 1 hit from the shield even if it rolls the lowest and starsurge rolls the highest it can rofl
turtle is comfy and what I wished blizz had announced at blizzcon
the custom content is so high quality you won't even notice it's custom
subtle class changes instead of wacky "mages can heal" shit
turtle wow does classic+ mostly right aside from a few things and the dumb paladin changes, their custom dungeons are horrible but the idea is correct. oh ya and its run by lunatic trannies. what blizzard is doing is just fucking awful
I was fucking fuming when that cunt said they were listening to feedback and then announced cataclysm. Season of Discovery is the only thing I gave a fuck about the entire blizzcon. Sounds like a cool concept.
Even so it will be figured out within days or a week after release. With wikis, discord and sites like wowhead there is no secrets anymore. You can always just not look it up yourself but eventually people will demand your class has XYZ runes for doing dungeons and raids like how world buffs is expected when in reality world buffs are not needed for raiding. I'm just keeping my expectations super low. I've played enough wow to know the player base. It's just meta min maxing now. We'll never go back to the 2004-2005 days of wow when everything was truly a mystery with a sense of discovery.
You're chasing a dragon that you'll never ever catch, I doubt you'd feel a sense of discovery even if you and everyone playing WoW were hermetically sealed in a giant box. You'll never be a kid again.
Nigga even as a kid I went to thottbot and alakazam to look at shit.
Stop bitching and enjoy it. >b-but muh min/maxer
Ignore them and don't join their guilds. That's all you have to do. Literally that easy.
this womans voice was like nails on a chaulk board, jfc why do they have to hire these stupid fucking diversity BIPOCs for every single front facing role
Priest looks like it’s gonna be the king of healers. Probably gonna be super useful in PvP with all the massive damage players are gonna be eating constantly from all the new OP abilities.
Literally shut up you spastic. Its not good enough that you have retail and wotlk filled with your dirty retail trash, you have to have seasonal classic as well. Degenerate disgusting loser.
Shaman tank sounds interesting, but Shamans are still the less popular class whereas Paladins are getting a lot of fun tools to use, especially mana regen options.
Also Alliance has the better leveling experience and zones which is what people are going to be stuck in so, probably massive Alliance bias.
But a rebalance of base game WAS mentioned, chucklenuts.
They're making mobs hit harder rather than giving them more health. They seem to want combat to run faster rather than having similar pacing with more abilities.
According to Ganker Classic+ is >Every single retail skill put into vanilla with 0 other changes
Its amazing how dogshit Ganker has become that it can't even read 3 slides that summed up the changes.
ya but thats not what anyone with a brain wants in vanilla otherwise they'd be playing retail.
Hey, retards.
But a rebalance of base game WAS mentioned, chucklenuts.
They're making mobs hit harder rather than giving them more health. They seem to want combat to run faster rather than having similar pacing with more abilities.
was replying to
>pulling 10 mobs and dabbing on mobs with retail spells >no rebalance of base game mentioned
We are coming home boys
Given its still Vanilla, Mage Healer. All the OP benefits of Mage + Fast dungeon queues is going to be nice. I also suspect its going to be a lot stronger than Disc. Priest as long as you have a Paladin force feeding you mana.
>Reusing dungeons and calling them raids, while porting retail abilities into classic is what classic+ should be!
The absolute state of classickeks. I can't imagine a more cucked fanbase
you just know they are launching SoD early so they can convince the israelites in marketing/accounting that its worth spending money on real devs for it
it already looks like they are going with the copy pserver strat so at least we are off to a nice start.
The level cap is such a terrible idea.
You'll get to 25 in two days of casual play. Then you'll fuck around with your limited ability set and 12 runes, run BFD once, and be bored.
It should have been 1-60, with BFD scaling up to a 10 man raid tuned for 60 in addition to molten core and Onyxia. Then release BWL in a few months with a 10 man Scarlet Monestary. Then AQ qith a 10 man Maraudon. Then Naxx with a 10 man modified Stratholme.
All toggleable so you can still do the original 5 man version.
This 5-10 level jump spaced 2 months apart is going to backfire like crazy after the first week and people realize it's not a new game.
You know it wont.
They'll release 4 servers for SoD. Two PvE servers for east and west coast, and two PvP servers for the same.
Within 2 weeks each factions will have a dominate server for PvE and PvP, rendering the Ashenvale shit a formaility. You just fly there every X timeframe and get your reward or buff, then leave.
They said the outdoor mobs will "hit harder".
But like you say, it'll do little good. They're giving players sledgehammers and reinforcing a glass house with cardboard.
Resto druid... Lifebloom, wild growth, and living seed. I'd say free wraith casts with Fury of Stormrage, but with lifebloom: I won't have the GCDs. So yeah, living seed over free wraiths.
"attention everyone, we have nerfed Shamans for the 1000th time because we don't like them. We made it so every class can now do what they do, but better."
-Crendor 13 years ago
Still fucking true.
my friend group is still deciding on which faction and it appears to be all aesthetic so far
we aren't going to commit to a server till 3 days after SoD comes out so the servers sort themselves into factions
How do these content creators and regular players play classic for 15 years straight?
I have gotten rank 1 on retail and raided every expansion, and classics content; its not bad, but its so limited it gets samey SO fast.
Leveling is literally a one button rotation for 300 hours on grinding trash mobs since quests give no xp.
raids are try not to fall asleep tier, with no challenge whatsoever.
Whats the appeal?
Classes have a unique role, but its shit like oh, balance druids bring their crit buff to other spellcasters, shamans for their totem buffs aoe healing, ect its not an encompassing playstyle, that will live you wanting more, but rather an attendance call, since you play X class you already forfill your role.
I would literally argue a basic ass bitch roguelike made by 1 dev in a sea of 1000s of these games has more depth, and replayability than all of solved classic wow
There's some variant in item drops, while the game is still predictable and cozy. It's the same reason people rewatch Lord of the Rings and the Office, they know what's going to happen so it's 'safe viewing' but there's some flair for watching Classic since there's the excitement of valuable drops (world epics or dungeon blues). HC has a ton of appeal in the same vein as speedrunning since it's a huge time investment with the potential for high risks.
I've played it a lot because I understand the game. I don't have to learn new things, but there's enough content it doesn't feel utterly repetitive like doing Dark Souls or Mario 64 over and over. I also can still get excited about getting good drops for my character.
Wonder how popular warlock tanking is going to be in the long run when the novelty factor wears off.
Remember you have to choose between that or having motherfucking chaos bolt.
why are they putting a bunch of retail convenience shit into classic? the whole point of vanilla was that things took work, quests were inconvenient and choices permanent, now season of discovery has every class able to do everything, casually switch specs and boosted leveling speeds. If I wanted meaningless retail shit I'd just play retail?
classic will still exist this is just a seasonal thing where they're experimenting with potential changes for classic+ (which will also be separate from regular classic)
yeah but what's the point? why not add some stuff that actually feels like classic instead of retail? surely there's one boomer left at blizzard that remembers how they used to make MMOs
Because that takes actual dev time and a design philosophy that hasn't been present at blizzard for over 15 years.
It's much easier for them to just backport retailslop for all the homosexuals that pretend they enjoy classic but really just want to play retail with easier mechanics.
addicted paypigs will play this shitty custom-fun server for a week max and then in a few months they will play another stupid doa nu blizz idea because they never learn. blizzdrones are too indoctrinated to finally move from wow they need it from time to time even if it's dogshit these days
i agree. i'm intending to play it mostly because of the quests to find the runes. feels like an opportunity to have more class quests, and i loved those
>class quests
nu-blizzard is way too scared to make quests that only 1/9th of the player base can do. Everyone has to have access to everything trivially or else
my only concern is not being able to just chill and lvl on my own. i only play classic to enjoy lvling, i hate the idea of only being able to level to 25, that takes about 15 hrs of gameplay, after that i have to wait week(s) for the new level bracket ot be released. if i wait until they have all been released i am playing with funserver exp rates.
i guess the play is to just make 10 accounts n level them all to the max level bracket every time, but it'll probably get boring if they don't add new quests and stuff which i haven't seen
Guess my main will be, like all the time a human warrior and my first twink will be a rogue. Love melee, simple as.
youre doing it backwards, retard
Ill pass this time
Theres only so many times I can farm bis
Once was one too many if you ask me
progression was a mistake
Game is so easy, no raid group ever wipes. Why the fuck would you farm anything? Unless you are the main tank.
Bet you were in a guild doing loot council as well.
how long before Blizzard releases a different version of the game for every player, tailored to their liking?
can already do that with mangodb's classic singleplayer private server. Can change bots however you want, have scripts where you can control them real time, can save edit for whatever items you want, you can scale your damage to do single character instances, etc. Pretty fun for a nostalgia trip, if lonely.
How hard is this to setup if I'm borderline retarded? Like gave up on modding Skyrim çause it hurt my brain retarded?
Honestly sounds right up my alley.
>çause
>ç
What the fuck.
Sorry for being European, but doesn't really answer my question.
it's pretty easy, just follow the instructions here:
https://github.com/celguar/spp-classics-cmangos
use the client here:
https://zremax.com/blog/vanilla-wow-client-download
optional: change bot settings in the config files and use the bot commands here:
https://www.briankoponen.com/world-warcraft-single-player-server-bot-control/
Like the other anon said, no way I'm giving activision money for a brief nostalgia trip. Haven't played WoW otherwise since I was in high school and modern retail seems really dumb and gay
has anyone made a survival game mode for wow? like imagine dayz but set in azeroth
Thank you very much anon!
enjoy. Also, if you want to plat TBC or WotLK, you'll need their clients from the same website instead of vanilla
Will do 🙂 and noted - thanks again.
>Wants single player WoW
>Doesn't play retail
>giving Activision your shekels
Nah, the other guy had it right. You are the retard here.
Yeah didn't think too hard, just wanted to take a jab at what the game has become
Why dont they just release something new in the spirit of classic, like, we had Wrath of the burger king, do a cool xpac now, pirates or something or maybe go into the future with guns and new york city
it will have new raids
like 4 new raids? one of them being one of the usual classic+ requests?
this is literally the best case scenario for classic+ other than the meme runes.
>bro why didnt they just make a new expansion and increase the level cap!
they did, its called TBC
What official servers allow you to play TBC? Oh that’s right, none.
i'm torn between rogue, priest and paladin/shaman. i enjoy mutilate so being able to do that would be nice and i've always preferred daggers to swords. priest is getting penance and probably more tools for shadow. paladins are apparently high dps contenders now, though i prefer healing
Resto Sham has me interested.
Mage healer sounds fun in a gimmicky way.
The Uninstall Wizard.
this has been my main in every expansion after WotLK. its just so OP
>People say the best thing about classic is how different it is from retail and how every class has its own unique role and there's differences between factions
>They release a new update that adds retail abilities, retail like raids and removes the differences between factions
>Classic players cum and shit and piss themselves in excitement
The majority of Classic players are retail tourists at this point. Actual vanilla fans fucked off back to private servers.
this. classic is a shitty version of vanilla. kind of fun leveling 1-40 but everything else is shit.
Too bad all wow private servers are pay 2 win or filled with chinks.
As a shaman I am furious
>cats get windfury as a passive
>paladins get tremor totem as a passive
>shamans still need to put down their totems
shaman status? cuckshed'd
Based on the wording I'm hoping shaman windfury enchantment stacks with cat windfury even though I know it won't, it sounds so funny
>and how every class has its own unique role and there's differences between factions
I never said this, especially because it's barely true.
Silence brownoid
>WAHHH MY FAVORITE CLASS THAT WAS OBJECTIVELY THE BEST AT DPS AND TANKING IN VANILLA ISN'T GETTING ANYTHING TO KEEP IT AT THE TOP
> how every class has its own unique role
I don't think this is very true, and leans more towards
>one class can tank the best
>also it does the best melee DPS
Like Rogues do not bring a single thing to raid that a Fury Warrior does not to better. Classes besides Warrior generally have ONE spec that works for 60 content.
people could clear MC with hunter tanks back in 2005, but you're a retarded poop socker
>ya bro back in 2005 Hunter Pets were just built differently and could tank MC, not with this soiboy GMO shit they feed modern classic pets
Classic stopped being "vanilla" the third day it came out and everyone just sat in SM or ZF with ravagers spinning in circles 24/7. The people who played normally eventually had to group up with these homosexuals. Nobody mentally well would have kept playing past their first level 60 for long.
The vast majority of classic "fans" are just retail homosexuals who were against it but are now into it because it's the popular thing. And retail playerbase means that classic cant stay classic.
Not like it ever even was lmao.
>Classic players who shut down their free servers, believed in Blizzards good will and keep crawling back after every backstab are retards
Yeah
Vanillafags got bored, crazy huh?
Now Blizz is running against time to cather to them
They're giving everyone what they want.
Vanilla with retail changes without any of the pozz.
>without any of the pozz
We thinking of the same WoW Classic team?
>added sexy ass half-naked twunk demon
That’s the opposite of pozzed
if it only goes one way, males objectified, females in burkas, then it's pozzed
But they didn’t change the female succubus?
uuuhhhh that doesnt fit the narrative so it was omitted
True, they kept the ugly old model. Only the naked male demon may be high definition.
>retail without the ugly wod models, meme races or all the good characters being killed off
>also maybe even with the propaganda scaled back a little since classic is clearly not blizzard's main focus
I'd play that.
>every class has its own unique role
>good dps
>good healer
>good tank
>and shitty other classes
>so emmm.. we tweaked some records in the database to bring you.... CLASSIC+++++++++
>fans cumming in their pants
If anyone honestly pays for this monthly he deserves the rope, private servers put more effort and you get it for free
Paladin looks so op I don't want to play it just because people will resent me for not playing paladin. I don't like paladin.
Leaning tank lock, but priest also looks fun. I have wanted a tank cloth wearer since BC.
What is the most meme gimmicky class/rune combo?
tank rogue
suicide by parry haste
i don’t think parry haste was ever actually confirmed and i’m sure they didn’t care enough to make classic that accurate if it did exist
parry haste is 100% a thing anon. you can see it in any parse
Slop franchise.
The Day Before is the better game.
I don't understand wow these days
There's like 10 different retail versions?
An expansion and extra content for each extra version?
Why?
There's two versions. Classic and Retail.
Retain is the normie version that everyone's been playing for 20 years.
Classic has:
>Classic Era
Literally just vanilla WoW
>Classic Wrath
Wrath of the Lich King, the third expansion
>Seasons
Seasonal events
Era
>Literally just vanilla WoW
tell me you never actually played vanilla without telling me
>pedant
Most people unsubscribe when they run out of things to do. They release content for Classic in between content releases for Retail, as a way of preventing "there's nothing to do for 3 more months" feelings. They ran out of pre-existing Classic content, so they started adding minigames like Hardcore and Seasons and Discovery as a way to fill those gaps without spending a lot of time or money. Really, it's just 2 versions, Retail and Classic, and they're on the same subscription.
because the homosexuals that still play this shit will bend over backwards coping for blizzard
Grt fast coking levels in rs at low. Pick up the barbvil powerfishers drops and fire it. You require twenty but yes.
Druid looks absolutely pathetic so either Lock or Shaman I guess.
You're truly lost if after all this time you're still excited for WoW shit
This is the first time WoW has been exciting in years, they're finally doing something different.
They literally rushed this so hard the level cap is only 25 while they figure out the rest of the gamemode? Also, the warlock tank thing is so retarded. All of its abilities are exactly the same as bear/warrior. They couldn't have come up with something more interesting or different? Tanks must only have this exact playstyle?
>Tanks must only have this exact playstyle?
Yes. It's still Classic. You'll have dozens of abilities, but you'll min/max 2-4 of them.
the issue with classic is it takes so fucking long to level so you'll have dudes running around in full t2 whilst little jimmy just got to 60. There are a couple ways to combat this, you can increase the xp rate, or you can level gate people. SOD chose the lesser of two evils, they are not only level gating they are releasing new content at these gates, its genius really.
level gating doesn't solve anything
>x phases later everyone running around in full t2
>little jimmy just installed the game and started leveling
They're going to give large exp boosts up to the previous gate.
yeah they could have had a buffed up curse of weakness, a buffed up armor spell, and buffed up drain abilities. but that stuff is all affliction spec and demon form is cooler so there u go, idk
Yeah people don't want interesting shit, they want vanilla adjacent mechanics. Its going to never be more complicated
>Yeah people don't want autistic shit, they want vanilla adjacent mechanics. Its going to never be more complicated
FTFY
There's some interesting promise with Lake of Fire, Firestones, and Fiery Weapon enchant
Until they add actual, new content that isn't reshuffling of assets a modder could throw together in a day or two, is it really Classic+?
Would they dare to implement a new class?
Kara Crypts will be new
Any new thing especially a class will just be met with too much negativity. "Per my reasoning I won't explain why I think this is retail shit, but it is so its not my Classic+".
Gonna make a holy paladin and I'm gonna have fun.
>play the best class
>have fun
yeah that's usually the case
it's everyone else that's suffering
holy is amazing in vanilla
paladin is superior
and it's even better with the new runes
You're a walking tremor totem with access to beacon of light. Incredibly busted
Never used beacon of light, it just lets you put it on the tank, then heal somebody else and the tank gets healed too?
I don't trust nu-blizzard to do anything right
Blizzard is right. Half of the servers are already dead. There's no point in wasting money so a few hundred autists can play the game forever. It may be the most popular expansion but there's little content once you're past the quest and rep grind.
>wasting money
people pay monthly to pay, in addition to whatever other cosmetic bullshit they buy. There's no reason they can't leave up a few servers, especially when other games they own have kept servers up indefinitely (see, sc1/d2/wc3) which are way more dead.
The cost of a server and labour to maintain wouldn't be high but it would cost way more than a very small pool of players contribute with subs. What exactly about Wrath era servers would be enticing? Raiding ICC a hundred times to min/max parse numbers?
>what would be fun
you wouldn't get it, loser
>would cost way more than a very small pool of players contribute with subs
based on what, your feelings? You don't even know how many people are currently playing wotlk. If they consolidate it to a server per region it'd absolutely stay populated. Especially if they rotated a reset into it every 18 months or so.
you are aware that wow is hosted on aws since god knows when? if these instances are scaled correctly then the cost isnt actually that big
They are dead because no one wants to fucking pay $200 a year to raidlog 15 year old content. Especially considering Warmane is free and on the same shit and will actually last. The only people that play are rmt naggers that have to or their indonesian family will starve to death
>only people that play are rmt naggers that have to or their indonesian family will starve
Anon, this felt weirdly personal. Do you often obsess over finding ways to insult Inodensians in casual conversation?
>no argument and resorts to ad homs
I rest my case.
>Do you often obsess over finding ways to insult Inodensians in casual conversation?
not him but I do, I hate indogs, pinoys, slopes, slants, chinks, asiatics, chang, chong, nips, dogeating naggers all of em, I just personally don't enjoy them as a whole, and I like to talk poorly of the on the internet
The Nips are the only tolerable race of East/South Asians. Honestly, I wish more of them immigrated because I'm tired of Pajeets making every grocery store stink.
Yeah I wonder fucking why. The chat is literally 100% gdkp and nothing else. No community, barely any normal content runs. Just full of bots and fags.
They're right not to, era and wrath are both dead.
The game should only be this
Classic WoW
Classic+ WoW (experimental shit like they are doing with SoD)
Hardcore Classic WoW
Retail
That's it
Good, fuck wrath. There's a fucking million pservers for it anyway so who even cares.
>pservers
god damn anon how much of an absolute homosexual do you have to be
After the MS buyout of ABK they're no longer under Activision. Maybe things will improve without Activision oversight of them, or nothing changes even with that, we'll see.
>Classicbros
this is for retail players to play on patch downtime
>copies ascension wow
>makes you pay for it
blizzdrones lmao
Shammy or pally, depending on where I can find myself an old man guild in EU
male
human
warrior
>classic but with everything that made retail garbage
Can't wait.
They arent changing the quests and the cinimatic hand holding story driven experience is the worst thing about retail wow imo. I much prefer classic questing.
>wow look at all these weird runes it's like ascension only lazier and they're just recycling abilities I wonder if-
>No Gladiator Stance
Only good thing to come out of WoD and they forget it and refuse to go back to it.
There are going to be more runes for other slots later, we're talking like 40+ runes PER CLASS assuming they're not gonna skimp out and do some generic ones to pad things out.
>assuming they're not gonna skimp out and do some generic ones to pad things out
I'll laugh so hard if their "solution" to the reputation thing is to just give you a rune at exalted that increases reputation gain with that faction
>40+ runes PER CLASS
source?
There's still like 9 item slots that can be assigned a rune, assuming they don't double dip with rings and trinkets and only one "weapon" rune rather than wep/shield-offhand/ranged being separate. Assuming 3 runes per slot, that's over 40 runes in total.
?
>assuming
>Assuming
Of course there's no fucking source retard, the server isn't out and there's no PTR. Literally everything here is pure speculation.
I'm playing mage and I'll not read a single piece of information about SoD so I go in blind.
Have you played retail mage? That's what you're getting.
I've never played mage.
Hope you like kiting
Dwarf Paladin, as always.
You people are actually excited for this? the fuck
None of the replies itt are real.
Blizz sics their ChatGPT bots on any thread that mentions their games.
none of the post here reads like an average v/ post.
I have nothing else to look forward to.
I'm running a Deinstall Sorcerer.
paladin main with a rogue alt. ill main the rogue if they get good runes but so far what was shown is kinda meh. maybe ill go melee hunter instead of rogue.
They are going to "test" the waters by adding a WoW token into SoD.
Some people will bitch and cry but will continue playing because they have been buck broken many years ago.
Some people will say "what's the big deal? RMT is already happening this is just Blizzard regulating it!". They will defend this btw.
Some people will say whatever their favorite e-celebs tells them to say (Asmongold) which he will defend the WoW Token in Classic+.
Screencap this. It's only a matter of time. But we're going home bros #somechanges
>he will defend the WoW Token
he has been against the wow token since it came out in 2015 what are you talking about
It's already in WotLK
you still getting baited by this? classic+ will NEVER EVER come
do they intend to make any of the content actually difficult? and i don't mean shit like "this boss has 30% more HP and does 10% more damage with its single braindead mechanic"
10 man is the comfy mode
Gonna enjoy a REAL funserver like duskhaven (once it's out) instead of blizzard's shitty ascension knockoff
>Combo Points are now on-self
>hit chance and expertise removed
good
I hate missing my attacks and spells
Dwarf Ret/Prot Paladin, I love Paladins in TBC/Wrath, so I'm excited to use both Ret and Prot abilities
First alt will be a Bear Druid for the WF
Bears wouldn't use the WF, that's for cats. Bears have the 6% crit reduction rune for that slot
>me
Forgot about that rune, fuck it, Shammy Tank
I play Warrior, Paladin and Shaman in main Classic so I thought I'd try Druid for literally the first time in 17/18 years
You don't really need it outside raid content though, windfurry would just be better for threat and melee damage, unless you're running a full caster party.
it's a 20% damage reduction anon, even for magic. It's completely beyond busted, if you're going to tank you're never taking it off.
yes
The way it works you can only rune toward cat or bear specialization, feral isnt one uniform talent tree. Windfury is cat specialization, so to get windfury means you would not get the damage reduction in bear.
Night Elf Hunter.
I will sit in Shadowmeld in WSG flagroom.
I will one shot you.
Anon you can't aimed shot from shadowmeld in classic, that's vanilla only. You'll get dumped on before you get your aimed shot off. Send your massive ass pet that they can't get rid off at them instead
He's not going to Aim Shot, he's going to Chimera Shot.
Chimera isn't going to oneshot anything, ranged weapons have like 40 damage on the high end at that level. 125% of 40 plus whatever bonuses you might scrounge up is barely going to tickle considering all the extra gear people have.
>You'll get dumped on before you get your aimed shot off.
you won't close 45 yards in that time
>WSG flagroom
>45 yards
45 yards is how far track humanoid goes. and iirc track hidden stacks so you'll see stealthers at a minimum of 10 unless they use vanish's more powerful stealth and even then you'll still hear them
>you when you see 2 dots on the minimap
>casts aimed shot
>notice im being targeted
>take a step back and los the hunter
So difficult, wowie
So is this going to have actual new content or is it just going to be the same exact shit but some numbers changed around?
It will have new content but slowly. They are already doing it with this 25 cap and new raid. They teased other raids like Kara Crypts (which is endgame) so they are easing people into Classic+ and not just releasing everything at once. They said they want to test stuff out and see what people like.
>censored garbage
>new pozzed content for classic
jesus christ guys, just get over wow, it's now made by people who hate you
>classic wow,but flanderized
no thanks
I never thought those rune abilities could be so disappointing.
>Check the mage ones just because sure maybe there could be cool stuff
>One for fire mage
>One for frost mage
>One for arcane mage
>One for retail disc priests
I always said Classic+ would be a terrible idea (because it's made by modern Blizzard) and they proved me right
I wish they rebalanced racials or just removed them. Would be cool to have actual population balanced factions. It's just going to be 90% horde again since they are by a huge margin just the better PvP faction
Anon at this point it's not going to be 90% horde, it's going to be 90% paladins. Not alliance, paladins.
Then they should put Paladins on Horde side also. Give them to Tauren
Nah let them ruin the game by making paladins overpowered because it's the pet class of all the streamers. They deserve to suffer for their obvious attempt at marketing
Shaman, if they can tank. Or I won't play.
iirc shaman do get a tanking spec
They can.
The question is still whether or not it will ever be worth taking one over a warrior or even a lock/druid.
Rogue tank is even more meme-tier.
I'm rolling your mother onto her front side and fucking her doggy style while you play World of Cucklife in the basement.
give me a good private server to play on
How do these content creators and regular players play classic for 15 years straight?
I have gotten rank 1 on retail and raided every expansion, and classics content; its not bad, but its so limited it gets samey SO fast.
Leveling is literally a one button rotation for 300 hours on grinding trash mobs since quests give no xp.
raids are try not to fall asleep tier, with no challenge whatsoever.
Whats the appeal?
Classes have a unique role, but its shit like oh, balance druids bring their crit buff to other spellcasters, shamans for their totem buffs aoe healing, ect its not an encompassing playstyle, that will live you wanting more, but rather an attendance call, since you play X class you already forfill your role.
I would literally argue a basic ass bitch roguelike made by 1 dev in a sea of 1000s of these games has more depth, and replayability than alll of solved classic wow
money for content creators and friends for regular people
understandable for content creators but not for regular joes.
I've had friends try other games and they were dogshit at them so they stuck with wow
>I've had friends try other games and they were dogshit at them so they stuck with wow
if you have 3 choices of food, and all of them are shit from various mammals, would you eat the least vile shit or would you fast? yeah that's right, that's why i'm not playing any MMO's currently. Last one i played was New World, but i got bored after a while, still the gameplay was interesting and actually fun.
did they forget how to make new games? wow is so formulaic now, so predictable, all expansions are basically the same shit, it's boring as fuck, the GAME IS FUCKING BORING! make it about skill and gameplay, not everyone should be able to finish all the content and that's ok, the game is too fucking easy, that's the reason why it's boring, we should have more randomized gear, we should have more tiers of gear, we should have more optional bosses, we should have more rare world bosses that take a raid to kill and actually drop good gear to make it pvp worthy... game is fucking boring because the designers are shit
and just following the same formula
The game from a reductionist perspective is clicking a one button rotation for 300 hours to hit 60, and than spamming a 3 button rotation in MC.
Its literally cookie clicker in a fantasy world.
Classic (Classic) when
why would i play classic when i already played vanilla in 2004
At least post a nonshit link that actually has the punchline, Jesus.
Gonna manipulate the auction house and sell gold to shitters.
will it be pvp servers only?
post good private servers
Epoch is going to be classic+ with sovl
whoops didn't mean to reply but i did mean to say wow druids are looking dogshit
Blizzard balancing KEK
>one has a cooldown
>the other doesn't
They both have cooldowns, 10 and 20 sec
starsurge DOES have a cooldown, but I guess it only costs 12 mana so its basically free. Avenger's shield is fucking severely overtuned though
>even if starsurge crits it will still do fucking less than one hit from the avenger's shield which can also crit on three separate enemies
But hey wait it benefits from the druid talents! Now let's see here at level 25 you will have 15 points to spend. Ok so 5/5 improved wrath = .5 sec cd off wrath...does nothing for starsurge since it has no cast time already okay good.
And you only get 15 talent points so uh you don't even get a single talent that actually buffs this pile of shit rofl.
druid with 1000 spellpower casting starsurge deals 10x more damage than a prot pala with the same tier of tanking gear casting avenger's shield
my main grip with spell descriptions is that it doesn't show scalability
Were gonna be capped at level 25 for over a month, good luck racking up 1000 spellpower. Take a look at this comparison, why would you EVER play a druid over a shaman? It's ridiculous.
>why would you EVER play a druid over a shaman
because alliance has no shamans
That's true, a hunter/lock/mage/SP/pala will do though, they're all way more powerful.
damn with damage like that it's basically a fucking pyroblast around that level, probably even stronger and with a 2 second cast time AND it's probably always gonna crit since they are always gonna be flame shocked before you use it.
god its so weak, literally does less dmg than wrath, probably one of the weakest spells ever. they need to at least set this shit at like 90-120 minimum.
even with 5/5 Vengeance druid talent, this will still do less damage than 1 hit from the shield even if it rolls the lowest and starsurge rolls the highest it can rofl
Is Paladin gonna be good? Or should i go with Warrior?
Paladin is looking like its gonna be fucking BUSTED
Should I play SoD or Turtle WoW?
Neither. Troondle wow is Russians with coin miner in their client and blizzard is China.
Turdle, play on the pvp realm if you dont want chink overload
turtle is comfy and what I wished blizz had announced at blizzcon
the custom content is so high quality you won't even notice it's custom
subtle class changes instead of wacky "mages can heal" shit
arr yes towtol wow vely vely comfy gweilo
turtle wow does classic+ mostly right aside from a few things and the dumb paladin changes, their custom dungeons are horrible but the idea is correct. oh ya and its run by lunatic trannies. what blizzard is doing is just fucking awful
Playing Warmane. Don't @ me homosexuals.
I've already played through pretty much all of that on twow without giving the israelite a cent and have gone on a break again.
I was fucking fuming when that cunt said they were listening to feedback and then announced cataclysm. Season of Discovery is the only thing I gave a fuck about the entire blizzcon. Sounds like a cool concept.
should i bother with this when i can play on stormforge?
No sense of discovery when all the runes and their locations will be datamined ahead of release. F for effort is the least I can give them.
There's no ptr though?
Even so it will be figured out within days or a week after release. With wikis, discord and sites like wowhead there is no secrets anymore. You can always just not look it up yourself but eventually people will demand your class has XYZ runes for doing dungeons and raids like how world buffs is expected when in reality world buffs are not needed for raiding. I'm just keeping my expectations super low. I've played enough wow to know the player base. It's just meta min maxing now. We'll never go back to the 2004-2005 days of wow when everything was truly a mystery with a sense of discovery.
You're chasing a dragon that you'll never ever catch, I doubt you'd feel a sense of discovery even if you and everyone playing WoW were hermetically sealed in a giant box. You'll never be a kid again.
Nigga even as a kid I went to thottbot and alakazam to look at shit.
Stop bitching and enjoy it.
>b-but muh min/maxer
Ignore them and don't join their guilds. That's all you have to do. Literally that easy.
Just don't look up the meta then retard.
Been playing turtle wow, is there any issue with turtle wow? My buddy kept asking me to join him.
Run by russian scammers.
just dont buy anything you dumb fag, lkmao
Don't have to buy anything. The bitcoin miner in the client generates revenue for them.
do zoomers seriously believe that everything they dont pay for is a miner? kek
Jyou wanna play Cata and bejyond? You wan graphicals improvements?
HOLY FUCK I want to plow the plain latina programmer.
this womans voice was like nails on a chaulk board, jfc why do they have to hire these stupid fucking diversity BIPOCs for every single front facing role
Female orc warlock
Green tusked human
>Cucksicbros we are SO back
>*proceeds to watch his wife get fucked*
Why are blizzcucks likes this
>ask for classic with custom content
>get locked level 25 with retail abilities
And classicucks consider this a win? Pathetic
they will increase it to 60 over time
Where are you seeing all these skills? Do priests get anything fun?
Priest looks like it’s gonna be the king of healers. Probably gonna be super useful in PvP with all the massive damage players are gonna be eating constantly from all the new OP abilities.
>AoE Shadow Word Pain
>Shadow Word Death
you knwo what good enough. Ill still heal btw :^)
>mostly just shit from future expansions
Snore.
yes I will be rolling a chadow priesf
You mean oom priest?
chadadin has got you covered
>season of discovery
>discovers the unsub button
So do I go paladin for tanking then? Are they the new meta?
>Are they the new meta?
The paladin class will probably be the new meta. They will be probably better tanks than warriors
Hunter and Paladin
Hunter because it will be bis in P1 at world PVP, Druid because I'm praying to christ they add in something actually COOL at later levels.
You'll get some runes for shapeshifting cosmetic forms, and other classes will get dps/hps runes for the same slots.
Orc hunter is sounding pretty fucking kino to ravage Ashenvale with
orc warlock tank
Fuck retailers for asking for this shit to be added to classic. Why can't you just stay in your own game ffs?
You have a classic. Enjoy cata 😉
Why is it so hard for you retarded homosexuals to understand that SoD is separate from Classic?
Die retail garbage. Literally ruining seasonal classic with your filthy retail mindset.
Classic still exists and this doesn't affect that in any way.
Literally shut up you spastic. Its not good enough that you have retail and wotlk filled with your dirty retail trash, you have to have seasonal classic as well. Degenerate disgusting loser.
lmao man i really hope you're this asshurt and not just trolling.
Give it to me straight guys. What's the meta going to be?
90% alliance server with the majority of them being paladins and some druids getting brought only for their windfury.
Shaman tank sounds interesting, but Shamans are still the less popular class whereas Paladins are getting a lot of fun tools to use, especially mana regen options.
Also Alliance has the better leveling experience and zones which is what people are going to be stuck in so, probably massive Alliance bias.
is 60% block value good? cuz the new tank pally rune gives that
>pulling 10 mobs and dabbing on mobs with retail spells
>no rebalance of base game mentioned
We are coming home boys
But a rebalance of base game WAS mentioned, chucklenuts.
They're making mobs hit harder rather than giving them more health. They seem to want combat to run faster rather than having similar pacing with more abilities.
According to Ganker Classic+ is
>Every single retail skill put into vanilla with 0 other changes
Its amazing how dogshit Ganker has become that it can't even read 3 slides that summed up the changes.
You literally just explained
>they are adding retail skills into vanilla
Hey, retards.
was replying to
ya but thats not what anyone with a brain wants in vanilla otherwise they'd be playing retail.
they literally said they are going to scale up the DPS of mobs so you can just gigapull the entire zone
no we aren't
Never played classic but I imagine there's just as much pozzed shit in that as in retail correct?
Given its still Vanilla, Mage Healer. All the OP benefits of Mage + Fast dungeon queues is going to be nice. I also suspect its going to be a lot stronger than Disc. Priest as long as you have a Paladin force feeding you mana.
>my friends who quit during Wrath classic interested in this
Classic+ bros we eating good
>Reusing dungeons and calling them raids, while porting retail abilities into classic is what classic+ should be!
The absolute state of classickeks. I can't imagine a more cucked fanbase
>*pays the equivalent of two triple AAA to play a glorified patch 3 days early*
Since when were AAA games $10?
Shaman, druid or the ole warrior. Tauren.
you just know they are launching SoD early so they can convince the israelites in marketing/accounting that its worth spending money on real devs for it
it already looks like they are going with the copy pserver strat so at least we are off to a nice start.
The level cap is such a terrible idea.
You'll get to 25 in two days of casual play. Then you'll fuck around with your limited ability set and 12 runes, run BFD once, and be bored.
It should have been 1-60, with BFD scaling up to a 10 man raid tuned for 60 in addition to molten core and Onyxia. Then release BWL in a few months with a 10 man Scarlet Monestary. Then AQ qith a 10 man Maraudon. Then Naxx with a 10 man modified Stratholme.
All toggleable so you can still do the original 5 man version.
This 5-10 level jump spaced 2 months apart is going to backfire like crazy after the first week and people realize it's not a new game.
>t. soulless grindbrain
Can't wait for some kino Ashenvale wpvp and me & the squad trying to take down the Scarlet Monastery with nothing but our fishing poles.
Free Wrath spam is like just using your wand, but you need to keep pushing the button nonstop, wrath is such a fucking weak spell
I don't even know what this is and don't care.
Will it do anything to address the power (and subsequent population) disparity between Horde and Alliance?
it gave alliance windfury through a druid rune so it'll be 100% alliance and no horde this time
You know it wont.
They'll release 4 servers for SoD. Two PvE servers for east and west coast, and two PvP servers for the same.
Within 2 weeks each factions will have a dominate server for PvE and PvP, rendering the Ashenvale shit a formaility. You just fly there every X timeframe and get your reward or buff, then leave.
does the piss-easy content of classic really warrant all these new abilities? so players are all stronger now, but what about enemies?
They said the outdoor mobs will "hit harder".
But like you say, it'll do little good. They're giving players sledgehammers and reinforcing a glass house with cardboard.
Resto druid... Lifebloom, wild growth, and living seed. I'd say free wraith casts with Fury of Stormrage, but with lifebloom: I won't have the GCDs. So yeah, living seed over free wraiths.
Two tbc era heals and a wotlk healing passive.
... exciting... innovative... hypeworthy
>homogenize classes
>give druids windfury
>make paladins ridiculous
What's the fucking point in even having the horde now god dammit
More runes are coming and they are probably going to just give shamans the missing paladin buffs to shut everyone up.
>homogenize classes
If they don't every realm is going to be 95% alliance now
Shamans got shafted while paladins made off like bandits
>WoW
>giving a shit about shamans
Pick one
They'll be the laughing stock for 20 more years, at least
the bus shock curse lives on
"attention everyone, we have nerfed Shamans for the 1000th time because we don't like them. We made it so every class can now do what they do, but better."
-Crendor 13 years ago
Still fucking true.
my friend group is still deciding on which faction and it appears to be all aesthetic so far
we aren't going to commit to a server till 3 days after SoD comes out so the servers sort themselves into factions
Im not mentally ill, thank you
How do these content creators and regular players play classic for 15 years straight?
I have gotten rank 1 on retail and raided every expansion, and classics content; its not bad, but its so limited it gets samey SO fast.
Leveling is literally a one button rotation for 300 hours on grinding trash mobs since quests give no xp.
raids are try not to fall asleep tier, with no challenge whatsoever.
Whats the appeal?
Classes have a unique role, but its shit like oh, balance druids bring their crit buff to other spellcasters, shamans for their totem buffs aoe healing, ect its not an encompassing playstyle, that will live you wanting more, but rather an attendance call, since you play X class you already forfill your role.
I would literally argue a basic ass bitch roguelike made by 1 dev in a sea of 1000s of these games has more depth, and replayability than all of solved classic wow
There's some variant in item drops, while the game is still predictable and cozy. It's the same reason people rewatch Lord of the Rings and the Office, they know what's going to happen so it's 'safe viewing' but there's some flair for watching Classic since there's the excitement of valuable drops (world epics or dungeon blues). HC has a ton of appeal in the same vein as speedrunning since it's a huge time investment with the potential for high risks.
I've played it a lot because I understand the game. I don't have to learn new things, but there's enough content it doesn't feel utterly repetitive like doing Dark Souls or Mario 64 over and over. I also can still get excited about getting good drops for my character.
>give wariors Titan's Grip rune during Naxx update
>we see a new GDKP record purchase for Might of Menethil
Can't wait to out dps brownies with my melee hunter and his exotic pet devilsaur
Org and Stormwind are about to be infested with Warlocks standing around in permanent demonagger form.
Wonder how popular warlock tanking is going to be in the long run when the novelty factor wears off.
Remember you have to choose between that or having motherfucking chaos bolt.
entirely different archetypes, like comparing mage vs warrior popularity. One is melee instant "caster" and one is traditional plant and cast.
why are they putting a bunch of retail convenience shit into classic? the whole point of vanilla was that things took work, quests were inconvenient and choices permanent, now season of discovery has every class able to do everything, casually switch specs and boosted leveling speeds. If I wanted meaningless retail shit I'd just play retail?
classic will still exist this is just a seasonal thing where they're experimenting with potential changes for classic+ (which will also be separate from regular classic)
yeah but what's the point? why not add some stuff that actually feels like classic instead of retail? surely there's one boomer left at blizzard that remembers how they used to make MMOs
well there's metzen but he's busy trying to canonize thrall x jaina again
Because that takes actual dev time and a design philosophy that hasn't been present at blizzard for over 15 years.
It's much easier for them to just backport retailslop for all the homosexuals that pretend they enjoy classic but really just want to play retail with easier mechanics.
I thought they said exp gains were reduced
>level 60 cap
>This account requires World of Warcraft The War Within to log in.
They WILL make you pay for an xpac to play classic eventually
addicted paypigs will play this shitty custom-fun server for a week max and then in a few months they will play another stupid doa nu blizz idea because they never learn. blizzdrones are too indoctrinated to finally move from wow they need it from time to time even if it's dogshit these days
Why do brownies seethe when Blizzard actually does things people want (classes actually being viable in a raid environment beyond healing)
Season of Discovery would be based if they banned DBM or any other type of addon like it.
i agree. i'm intending to play it mostly because of the quests to find the runes. feels like an opportunity to have more class quests, and i loved those
>class quests
nu-blizzard is way too scared to make quests that only 1/9th of the player base can do. Everyone has to have access to everything trivially or else
>what we really want a fresh server to play vanilla
>WTS SM AOE BOOST 20G RUN
So is every class going to basically be broken, with Warlock and Pally being the most broken?
How will Cata Classic work?
Will the current Wrath server simply upgrade into Cata ?
yep and there's no wotlk classic era server. so time to play on warmane if you prefer that version of the game. i swear this indie company has no clue
Can't wait for classic Shadowlands.
apparently you're rolling joints of heroine, because you have delusions, homosexual.
my only concern is not being able to just chill and lvl on my own. i only play classic to enjoy lvling, i hate the idea of only being able to level to 25, that takes about 15 hrs of gameplay, after that i have to wait week(s) for the new level bracket ot be released. if i wait until they have all been released i am playing with funserver exp rates.
i guess the play is to just make 10 accounts n level them all to the max level bracket every time, but it'll probably get boring if they don't add new quests and stuff which i haven't seen