Close Combat and Focus Blast are shit overdistributed moves that shouldn't exist.

Close Combat and Focus Blast are shit overdistributed moves that shouldn't exist.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Focus Blast is such a shit move it hardly matters, but you’re right about Close Combat, at the very least everything is going to get it, it shouldn’t have 120 base power

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Focus Blast is the actually shitty one here due to its 70% accuracy.

    Speaking of BP there'd be an outcry if powerful moves like Earthquake and Close Combat were nerfed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nerfed in a popular terrain, Halfs damage in doubles, High Horsepower 5bp less 5acc less not effected by either no one is gonna care about Earthquake since no one already does.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Close Combat and Focus Blast
      Ghost types are immune so it's balanced

      >Earthquake
      Flying types and Levitate are immune so it's balanced

      >Protect and Toxic enter the room

      >Toxic
      Steel and Posion types are immune so it's balanced, also there's Natural Cure and Heal Bell
      >Protect
      that move is only good in certain scenarios. it's not like you can just slap it on any mon and it will be good. there are also moves that are tailor made to bypass Protect. this move is balanced

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >starts with pic of T-tar, which is 4x weak against fighting
    >Close Combat and Focus Blast are shit overdistributed moves that shouldn't exist
    >Both of them are Fighting-type
    Tell me, did you get curbstomped by a fighting type during your gameplay?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >/vp/ autist tries to understand humor challenge (DIFFICULTY: IMPOSSIBLE)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Tell me, did you get curbstomped by a fighting type during your gameplay?
      Finally a situation where "c*mpaignshitter" may have legitimate usage. Actually no frick that saying so gives the Black spamming it the power and validation he seeks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It gets irritating when every psychic type that TTar is supposed to counter carries fighting coverage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also Body Press. That move either shouldn’t exist or it needed to be learned by only maybe 10 pokemon. One of the problems with pokemon today is that due to gimmicks, power creep, and new moves a large portion of pokemon can now win against other pokemon that would counter themselves ruining any balance.

        Is little baby upset that his favorite Pokemon has been powercrept? Get over it. Also, imagine b***hing about Psychic types having Fighting coverage when TTar has such an obscenely bloated movepool.

        Honestly, I'm glad that ugly piece of shit is finally out of OU.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally
          >fighting
          >ghost
          >rock
          >ground
          >steel
          >flying
          >electric
          >ice
          >fire
          >dark
          >water
          >dragon
          In its movepool. All 7 of its weaknesses can be hit super effectively. But no, god forbid a psychic type have fighting coverage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But no, god forbid a psychic type have fighting coverage.
            You're right, having Focus Blast makes Grumpig a good Psychic type Pokemon to use.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Honestly, I'm glad that ugly piece of shit is finally out of [UNOFFICIAL META]
          Cool? Might as well talk about ROM hacks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If dark types can't answer psychic spam then wtf are you supposed to use? Ghosts? Shadow Ball distribution is cracked too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >supposed to counter
        Maybe 15 years ago. It’s silly to assume the same movelists and meta structure should be fundamentally identical and favoring the exact same mons.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hated Hidden Power, but at least now it's gone. Now I don't have to worry about getting hit by a random HP Fire.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should nerf Knock Off and U - Turn down to 60BP

      Get outta here Scizor.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should nerf Knock Off and U - Turn down to 60BP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scisor?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, they should also buff Bullet Punxh to 60bp.
        Steel isn't as good of an offensive type as Fighting or Ice.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly who cares?
        Technician is honestly overrated. It encourages you to use moves that will always be weaker than 91 BP, and more often the moves are still weaker than 60 BP too.
        Scizor might be OU again, but all the other technician users are still going to be low tier.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing Scizor needs to go back to OU is his Mega to come back and get access to Roost again

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You could also just play the actual game where Scizor is already good instead of staring at fanfic tier lists.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >bss
              >not vgc
              come on, at least try

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >w-wait no the actual game doesn't count

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              These screen shots are utterly meaningless without a sample size.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The sample size is every person who plays BSS which is in the hundreds of thousands.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're pulling numbers out of your ass. I want data.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You did get data. You just don't like it because it makes you asshurt about being too lazy to play the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't provide a sample size. How many scizors appear in how many battles?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So it's the same as sub 1200 ELO shitters. That metric is useless.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't provide a sample size. How many scizors appear in how many battles?

                https://www.smogon.com/stats/2024-04/gen9bssregf-1760.txt
                you lost

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >6.13998% usage
                It'll move the goalpost and pull out a "SEE, PEOPLE ARE USING IT YOU CAMPAIGNSHITTER".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're pulling numbers out of your ass. I want data.

                You didn't provide a sample size. How many scizors appear in how many battles?

                It's best to refrain from replying to any posts with usage statistic screenshots since there usually done with disingenuous intent, especially when combined with a wojak.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this
                definitely not like us campaignshitters who disingenuously post smogon fanfic pages and pretend it’s relevant to the game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>>>>>>>>BSS

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>>>

                [...]

                garbage decided by an arbitrary discord council

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>>>[...] garbage decided by an arbitrary discord council

                >caring about competitive Pokemon period when your options are either a sweaty neckbeard fanfic meta or a literal scam devised by the Pokemon Company to make you spend money so they can directly advertise Pokemon merchandise to you while you pray you reach #1 in order to make back 25% of your investment in travel fees and entry to compete in the venue itself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry I enjoy playing the part of the game that actually matters instead of jerking off over how hard cynthia is in my 68th platinum replay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >actually matters instead of jerking off over how hard cynthia
                lmao you're so wrong.

                Cynthia actually does matter unlike VGC because people still care about Cynthia 15 years after the release of DP whereas no one cares about gen 4's VGC anymore.

                People also still play Smogon's gen 4 OU. The metagame isn't the same as it was back then, but the point is that it's replicable with the gen 4 games, which still exist, and people still care about it.

                Whereas no one is ever going to care about SV's BSS or VGC or whatever you call it now, the minute the switch's online goes down and everyone moves on to the next generation.

                Even WHILE it's the current gen, barely anyone plays BSS.

                20k games? More games than that on the fricking gen 4 OU ladder than that in spite of it not being advertised anywhere and 6v6 games taking longer apiece.

                You're eternally butthurt about Smogon and Cynthia, because they DO actually matter, unlike VGC/BSS.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Somewhat related regarding BSS, I wish it went back to how it was on the 3ds games. It was basically no "ubers" and you can use all the "regular" Pokemon. BSS on the Switch has been a nightmare with all the letter regulations and fricking restricted Pokemon which completely ruins the singles side. You can't play a "standard" game on cartridge once they start allowing restricteds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wait they let you use restricteds now in online 3v3?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yea the current G regulation you're allowed to bring 1. During swsh I believe at the end they allowed 2 restricted which basically meant both were always brought in for 3v3 singles. There's no other ladder to play when the ruleset takes effect cause both singles and doubles use the same ruleset and there's only the 2 ladders. Restricted formats were common in VGC but it basically ruins singles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one cares about gen 4’s cynthia anymore either.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the reason scizor doesn't see use in OU is because all the offensive threats you'd want to use it to snipe got banned.
            bax, pao, flutter, hell even espathra, all of those are things scizor does well against.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              one of many reasons why it’s fricking moronic to use fanfic tier lists as an indicator of how good a pokemon is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scisor?

      Honestly, they should also buff Bullet Punxh to 60bp.
      Steel isn't as good of an offensive type as Fighting or Ice.

      LOL

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i know you're memeing but i really wish close combat wasn't a thing, fighting moves were cooler when they based on martial arts rather than some ill-defined action slapped on random animal mons

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also Body Press. That move either shouldn’t exist or it needed to be learned by only maybe 10 pokemon. One of the problems with pokemon today is that due to gimmicks, power creep, and new moves a large portion of pokemon can now win against other pokemon that would counter themselves ruining any balance.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Protect and Toxic enter the room

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gallade uses Sacred Sword

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This but unironically.
    Gen 8 giving everyone and their mom was fricking ridiculous. And then there was Body Press too.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ttar is an ugly fat shitmon, like pretty much all of the pseudo legendaries.

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