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>darksouls but japan
Shit’s fun as fuck -
From soft wishes they made dark souls combat remotely this enjoyable.
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What’s so fun about Nioh combat? You just spam attacks, flux, spam attacks, Dodge hyper armor attacks, spam skills, flux, repeat.
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IMO that loop is sayisfying it’s the same feeling I get when I’m playing JRPGs and everything I’m working on comes together
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It’s far more involved than Dark souls combat ever was. That’s pretty much it.
Each stance excels and and fails at something. High stance: Ok blocking, high damage, and high ki damage but slow as shit, can only attack a few amount of times, and can’t dodge for shit. Low stance: fast as hell, Attacks out the ass, and All dodges in the world but deals next to low damage, Low ki damage, and terrible blocking. Middle Stance: Wide swings to catch multiple enemies, The defensive stance which normally comes with counters, ok damage, ok attack speed, and a few dodges.Dark souls in comparison is boring trash always the same 5 attacks the same per weapon type, always rolling, and always blocking.
The closest thing dark souls has to stance switching is switching weapons, and Nioh can also do that with a secondary melee weapon and two dedicated Ranged weapon slots.
While Nioh might be "spam attacks, flux, spam attacks, Dodge hyper armor attacks, spam skills, flux, repeat."
Dark Souls is Spam R1, Dodge/Block, Repeat.
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>only two games exist, dark souls and Nioh
You don’t like action games, stop pretending you do.It’s not. The most complicated input in Nioh is flux 2, which isn’t even complicated. Once you have that down, the game is a joke, especially against humans. In most games, the broken shit is hidden behind some really good execution. In Nioh, you only need to know one input.
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>>only two games exist, dark souls and Nioh
Atleast read the thread before whining -
>You don’t like action games, stop pretending you do.
The thread started with comparing the two games.
So I continued comparing the two games. Is that somehow a problem? You want me to compare it to other games combat?
Because Nioh is a toned down Ninja Gaiden with a stamina bar and no jump button. That should just outright shit all over most other games combat to you. -
There are many, many more complex inputs available in Nioh 2 if you start actually learning and pushing the combat as far as it can go, in terms of both number of inputs and timing.
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>There are many, many more complex inputs
Like what?-
uhhhhhhhhhh fist mc spam move? i have to press like 3 times??? its very hard bro. only hardcore players like myself can do it.
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You can follow Flux 2 with any skill from your second weapon, which requires you to first do Flux 2, then swap weapon, cancel the unsheathe animation with guard, then do the skill. Dodges can be cancelled by sheathing which you can spam to rapid dodge. Beyond Infinity is a series of 2-3 frame window inputs for max damage. Item cancelling consists of a precisely timed Ki Pulse after doing an attack then using an item/jutsu to cancel the recovery of said item/jutsu, and depending on the attack it gets very exact. That’s just a few that come to mind.
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>wow a sequence of just 4 actions
>compex
Do you have 4 IQ?-
You would have to if you figure that wall of text as only 4 actions.
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That wall of text is 4 actions.
Then it randomly brings up a move that’s literally just pressing the same button a few times in a row with decently generous timing in a single player game with predictable enemies making it even easier.
If you think that’s hard, you are bad at games.
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that loop is a bit too complicated to be called spam lmao
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It’s nothing like Dark Souls.
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>dogshit physics
>dogshit level design
>dogshit enemy variety
cope-
There’s nothing to cope about shit’s goood
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the second game is even better.
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This is the Dark Souls of action games
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its not but more power for you if you like shit
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Mmm okay I give up what should I be looking at?
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you dont have eyes, like that npc who is blind too
anyway i didn’t make many webms when i played this shit , just 2-3 bugs and 2-3 situations like that
no those aren’t the reasons the games are shit-
>be dressed like guard
>guard doesn’t realize your an enemy
>this is bad game design-
Oh wait that’s a thing in Nioh??
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What’s actually going on is that enemies in Nioh have 2 different kinds of awareness: sight and sound. If you walk slowly and stay out of the enemy’s sight lines, you can sneak up on them.
There are also abilities you can get later on that reduce your noise and visibility without hindering your movement speed.
Pic related is taken from the tutorial level, which is also a tribute to dark souls and therefore doesn’t have most of the mechanics you’ll use after you get into the proper game. In other words, the enemy AI in the tutorial is stupid on purpose.-
Oh yeah when I started I can’t stop giggling that the game’s intro is literally darksouls buehuehue
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And you see that as a reason to dispise it? It’s the same shit with that botw clip it doesn’t speak for the rest of the experience but heh yeah let’s complain just for the sake of it
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>if you like shit
>no those aren’t the reasons the games are shit
Anon you cam do one or the other but not both -
looks like i’ll have to delete the game now because of your webm
fuck and i thought it was pretty good, but thank you kind stranger-
where is my gold faggot
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right here
*unzips dick*
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>Daksouls but X
Well, Dartksouls sucks, so that explains why this does, too.
1, 2, 3. 3. Three. (3) enemies used regularly; zombie man, big zombie man with axe, big dude with rock.
It takes 1 (1) fight to figure out how to consistently beat all of these except the guy with rock.
And you simply shoot the last guy for a free win.
You are less than 5% into the game, and have effectively seen and conquered 99% of the game.
>Muh boss fights
If they’re human, tonfa rapes stamina so hard they don’t even count as a fight.
Every yokai fight is piss easy.
Even if you don’t use confusion, which destroys the game.>But If I play the game for 900 hours in new game +++++ in post game dlc 15 I get a 2 v 1 fight that may be slightly challenging
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i like it when you’re an irish guy killing brittish people (being based) but i feel bad for killing all my dope japanese bros and haven’t made it far past the tower of london bit at the start. do you have to kill many more japanese bros in the rest of the game? do you still have to kill japanese bros in nioh 2?
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All that time and that was the best you could come up with.
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You know, I could say a whole lot about the goalpost moving and flagrant ignorance on display, but the fact you think three lines and five sentences is a wall of text is too much as it is.
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>Calls it a wall of text
>Gets replied with by someone calling the same shit you called a wall of text, a wall of text, because you already called it that
>What the fuck how can you call what I call, what I called it
Sorry 4 IQ is too high for you-
Kek
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Nioh 1 would have been better if william was a cute girl
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hear me out on this
short hair tomboy william-
Fuck
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darksouls but shit
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Nioh 2 would have been better if you could make cute smol femboy
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why are dark souls diverse folk so obsessed with nioh
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Because they can’t accept that games can have spiritual successors and be damn better at it
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but you guys said nioh was it’s own thing?
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Who did?
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you guys
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Not me I’m not delusional
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It is.
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Splitstaff kinda sucks tbh
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Nah it’s really powerful, though it can take some time to get used to due to the extending mechanic. In general they take longer and cost more Ki but do more damage/Ki damage and have more range/hits so the more you learn about enemies and get used to the flow of fighting the better timing you’ll have with doing it.
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Retard, they do LESS ki damage when you extend, it’s unbelievable how much ki damage you lose by extending
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What weapon you would recommend to people that are horrible with this game
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odachi
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I suck at it and use 1kat. Or maybe that’s why I suck.
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odachi will carry you can eventually when you get bored of spamming twin moons, it will teach you to be less horrible at the game wince its stance-switching attacks will force you to ki flux motherfucker
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Depends, are you horrible but have a desire to practice and improve and want a balanced weapon to help bring that out of you so you can find tons of fun tricks to do? Then katana or dual swords. Are you horrible and just want whatever can be the most forgiving if you mash buttons so you can get to the end, despite still having plenty of depth as well if you wish to pursue it? Then odachi.
Mid stance is good but you’re missing a massive amount of your moveset by sticking in it, every stance is good and changing is utterly free and without commitment. It also has the worst dodge options overall.
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fuck
i dont feel like learning even more moves
5x attack is enough for my unga brain-
Just start by putting different actives on different stances. That will teach you to flux. They are going to be the same inputs on each stance for the most part. It isn’t much muscle memory to learn. You just really need to get the flux muscle memory down and the rest will fall into place.
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wish fluxing was automatic
even thought about making an ahk script to auto flux but seems kinda difficult to pull off-
Just force yourself to do it over and over. It is the same with anything else. You learn it over time until you don’t even realize you are doing it. Also if you didn’t know you can see the white particles swirl around your character to know when to do it if you are having trouble with the timing. After a while you will even learn the internal timing of when to do it without having to look.
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thanks
you are real bros
Ill just practice then. Just hope i can get past that tainted area in the village with the spear yokai. He teared me a new one yesterday
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You say that now, but take your time and keep focusing on working them into your approach and you’ll find yourself getting better before you know it. Knowing the base moveset on one stance is already a big step since they all function similarly, just give them a swing. The dojo’s always there too.
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is there any reason to use any stance beside the middle stance with one kat
good block, good damage, good rolls
I just think its neat-
You put different active skills on each stance. It is fine if you use one stance more than the other 2 but you should still make use of the other 2. Low stance is also good for getting in quick hits between boss animations and applying statuses. High stance for breaking horns and long pauses between attacks.
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Dark Souls IS japanese, dumbfuck
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I never said it wasn’t, are your eyes not working does kings, soldiers, victorian houses and building looks like japan to you
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>>darksouls but japan
Japs copied western games again-
>from software. western?
Are you fucking retarded?>implying Dark Souls has combat anywhere near even half as in-depth and tight as Nioh
They still play the same
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>implying Dark Souls has combat anywhere near even half as in-depth and tight as Nioh
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Until you realize that its full of the same repetitive levels and enemies. And all the game really revolves around is getting an odachi, going into high stance and bam you can beat the whole thing
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Keep thinking that dumb and I’ll eat your boi pussy
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>ignores the 11 weapons with extensive movesets split across 3 stances to mash the same thing over and over until it eventually works on the easiest mode
>complains about repetition
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But don’t forget about
>godawful level design
>no enemy variety
>very few builds
This is why Nioh will forever be inferior to the DSouls games.-
>inferior
Ew your opinions do not matter -
>>very few builds
The fact that armor does anything at all automatically makes it better than Dark Souls-
>The fact that armor does anything at all
It doesn’t, in fact, armor is much less relevant than in DaS3-
>It doesn’t, in fact, armor is much less relevant than in DaS3
Have fun in the Depths then
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I consider myself to be pretty good with the 1kat and just beat wotStrong and I never use flux, just mid-parries for humanoids and high-combos for yokai lol
Nioh is easy as shit once you get tempest backwave and haze iai down -
Nioh gets boring when you get endgame gear and can just melt everything in your way. Souls feels more replayable.
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if anything Nioh becomes more fun once you have all the skills unlocked and decent gear along with it.
Enemies are scaled up ridiculously, so for some reason even skeletons don’t melt on higher difficulties.No it isn’t. Nioh is easily one of the worst games of the decade.
American detected
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>Souls feels more replayable.
This is bait right?
When you compare the differences in the NG+ cycles between both games it is clear which one had more thought put into it.
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No it isn’t. Nioh is easily one of the worst games of the decade.
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Great b8 babe
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finally someone who understands us
you can now be part of the gang *nuzzles you* :3
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can i play as a big fuckin shogun looking dude with a huge polearm in nioh?
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kinda but enemies will still tower over you
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It’s like dark souls. Character height reflects how important a character is rather than how tall they actually are.
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Tokichiro the most important character in the game is a manlet
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Because he’s supposed to be your close friend right so he’s not a larger-than-life figure like a legendary warrior you only know through rumors, such as Honda, would be to you. It’s all about perspective, man.
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speaking of legendary figures, Yoshitsune and Yorimitsu are also smol
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Well yeah they’re legendary but they didn’t actually exist in real life the way they do in the game so they have to be small to be more personal.
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they did exist
Raiko was a man but whatever
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In Dark Souls character height is related to race
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is this 1 or 2
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2
I’m max height as well
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They are different games, dark souls is a good game nioh is diablo with shit balancing
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I jobbed to dotd all oncomers otakemaru for 2 hours, then beat him once with max cheese, then died to william due to 0 elixirs
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE BEING A SCRUB
I just want to have fun again in missions for noobs where you don’t get combo’d to death in each attack. -
I just started playing yesterday with an Odachi+Spear and I am having a ton of fun, the spear in particular just feels so nice to use. I am actually quite baffled how DSP was able to play with just mid-stance spear when the game rewards you so much for situationally changing stances, even multiple times in the same fight. Its like he has the amazing ability to refuse to engage with a game and its mechanics and make it look as bad as possible.
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Dark Souls but without
>Good art design
>Good level design
>Good graphics
>Enemy variety
>Interesting lore
>Not broken hitboxes
Bamco made a better Souls-like without even trying -
>back to dark souls 3 after days of nioh
>instinctively press the ki burst button after attacking
what the fuck is this game -
>tried Nioh 1 when it came out
>got bored almost instantly
>play Nioh 2 when it came out on PC
>play it for a month straight-
so skip nioh 1
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But that’s exactly what I did
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nice me too after i finish downloading nioh 2
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>weebshit dark souls
literally r/eddit:the game -
Nioh is one of the worst games of all time.
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