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    • #435813
      Anonymous
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      Did Nintendo’s intellectual property actually benefited by sending a DMCA to the developer? I would have just hired the man.

    • #435814
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Microsoft hired that man for Ori which ended up coming to Switch so it’s like they did.

    • #435815
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Some rando making something after like 6 years means nothing as far as employment goes. It doesn’t tell how well he can work with a large team, in an office, how efficient he is, if he can work with tight deadlines, nothing and I’m tired of people thinking that it does. It just means he had enough knowledge and had a lot of time to himself.

      • #435816
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Then he could be hired as a contractor to mentor the people nintendo does employ, who have obviously demonstrated that they do not have the knowledge

        • #435817
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You don’t know if those men people want them to hire can even suit being a contractor since they’re taking all this time not even being in the industry at large, just in a basement toiling away.

          • #435818
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >just in a basement toiling away.
            He’s perfect.

      • #435820
        Anonymous
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        • #435825
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Ori is its own IP, for one, so even if they weren’t scooped up by someone else it could stand on its own two legs if it got enough people interested. I’m for people making their own shit, but actually have it be your own.

      • #435823
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Worked well for Valve with Counterstrike, Portal, Left for Dead and Dota
        >It doesn’t tell how well he can work with a large team, in an office
        So don’t force them into a cucked environment, just give them extra money and reasources and let them do their thing.

        • #435826
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Teams that are shown to actually do something new and do them competently vs one person are much easier to get started and help. One person can’t really do a lot in a timely manner.

          • #435828
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >One person can’t really do a lot in a timely manner
            There are plenty of 10x devs out there that prove otherwise

        • #435832
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >just give a guy money and he might make a good game in a year or so
          Surely you can’t be this retarded

          • #435835
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Worked for valve.

        • #435930
          Anonymous
          Guest

          but you see, only cucked environments are allowed anymore.

        • #436063
          Anonymous
          Guest

          aren’t all of those besides CS effectively ended/dead?

          • #436072
            Anonymous
            Guest

            People still play all of them and dota 2 is currently running the biggest prizepool tournament in gaming.

            • #436106
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >People still play all of them
              apparently not enough to warrant a new game. even after employing fans of the series that made shit for free before but not when being paid
              >and dota 2 is currently running the biggest prizepool tournament in gaming
              good for the pro players I guess. dota 2 doesn’t seem to be dying as I previously thought

              • #436108
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >apparently not enough to warrant a new game
                You know we’re talking about Valve right? Either way in the case of L4D they split off to go make Evolve after and ate shit.
                >dota 2 doesn’t seem to be dying as I previously thought
                Ganker claims everything that isn’t WotLK wow is dead numbers.

          • #436164
            Anonymous
            Guest

            how long so you want singleplayer games to be alive

      • #435847
        Anonymous
        Guest

        it tells me they know a ton about finishing a project and not overextending their reach

      • #435884
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yeah if only any of those things were important for making a good game….

        • #435885
          Anonymous
          Guest

          They very much are important anon.

      • #436071
        Anonymous
        Guest

        stfu corpo melanoid, it worked with valve. am2r is better than samus returns

        • #436156
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >am2r is better than samus returns

          • #436169
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >one runs at 30 FPS, the other runs at 60 FPS

            Also, AM2R is less cinematic. SR and Dread border on cinematic movieshit. See pic related.

      • #436139
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Somebody that can finish a quality project is already living in a different reality to abject consoomers who can only manage to wageslave inebriate and spend for 60 years before dying of a preventable lifestyle driven illness. Regardless of how well they work in a group speaks less of them than it does of people that couldn’t contribute meaningfully to their culture given the same amount of time

      • #436166
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This
        It’s better to just hire untanlented pajeets instead

    • #435819
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It benefit by hiding the fact that some guy made a better job than an AAA company

    • #435821
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Inspiration for Raven Beak and his robots?

      • #435860
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I mean, there’s no doubt in my mind that the devs played AM2R. It could very well have had an influence especially since their game was compared unfavorably to it. Dread feels like a redemption arc where they stepped up their game.

        • #435867
          Anonymous
          Guest

          This. Not a bad thing. It’s not like SR is bad, it’s just that AM2R is better

        • #435893
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >since their game was compared unfavorably to it
          Not really. Most preferred SR to AM2R as far as gameplay went.

          • #435899
            Anonymous
            Guest

            SR was shit. Dread is also shit, but less so.

          • #435900
            Anonymous
            Guest

            I have to agree. Am2r’s notoriety came from the fact that it was in development for a long time and the dmca. It was very rare to see people actually talk about the gameplay.

            • #435908
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Since SR, gameplay discussion about AM2R ultimately boiled down to comparing Diggernaut to the Tester

          • #435905
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Before Dread, i’ve heard people bitching about SA start-stop counter attack gimmick. Only thing SA has over AM2R is 360 aiming.

            • #435915
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Only thing SA has over AM2R is 360 aiming.
              And pretty much everything else other than the 2.5d aesthetic.

              • #435921
                Anonymous
                Guest

                People praise SM and ZM to the moon and back. Having as unchanged as possible is what some people wanted.

              • #435924
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I dont know man. I’m loving Dread but I still think AM2R feels better to replay than SR.

                • #435927
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  You can think that but objectively speaking it’s below the bar of what many expect from a metroid game.

              • #435928
                Anonymous
                Guest

                360 aiming isn’t a benefit.

                • #435929
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >360 aiming isn’t a benefit
                  Retard alert.

                  • #435932
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >Being forced to stay immobile to aim anywhere except horizontally
                    VS
                    >Clicking a single button and being able to aim diagonally upward or downward

                    • #435934
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      but you can aim up while running…

                      • #435935
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Shhhh!
                        Let him be retarded

                      • #436111
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Not in SR

                    • #435975
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >gets called a retard
                      >outs himself and dispels all doubt

                  • #435933
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    I can understand where he’s coming from. He may have poor hand eye coordination.

              • #436081
                Anonymous
                Guest

                AM2R is one of the most fun to just explore the world and have multiple pathways to choose from. It’s only detriment are the Metroid fights.

            • #435916
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >i’ve heard people bitching about SA start-stop counter attack gimmick
              Here’s the thing, it’s not nearly as prevalent as people think especially since for the most part it was optional.

            • #435936
              Anonymous
              Guest

              people actuallyused the counter attack in that game? I pretty much never did except when it was absolutely necessary for a boss mechanic.

              • #435940
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Most people didn’t.

          • #436120
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Most preferred SR to AM2R as far as gameplay went
            Hahahahah no

      • #435891
        Anonymous
        Guest

        You know, as opposed to the same enemy type you fight twice in Super Metroid.

        • #435894
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Did they have jet packs though?

          • #435897
            Anonymous
            Guest

            What do jetpacks have to do with anything.

            • #435901
              Anonymous
              Guest
              • #435902
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Do you know what a jetpack is?

                • #435906
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  They can be used by individuals to allow individuals to fly. Please why are you trying to purposely ignore that?

                  • #435909
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Anon, wings are not jetpacks.

                  • #435918
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    I honestly can’t tell if you are arguing that wings are jetpacks or that AM2R invented the idea of Chozo having wings.

                    • #435942
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      For crying out loud Raven Beak literally is wearing armor that makes him look like the countless other chozo robots in the game, and then he takes out his wings during the boss fight.

                      • #435952
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >For crying out loud Raven Beak literally is wearing armor that makes him look like the countless other chozo robots
                        Yes anon, wearing metal does make you look less like a creature of flesh and blood.
                        >and then he takes out his wings during the boss fight.
                        And?

                        Seems like you just want to attribute anything to AM2R when barely anyone played it.

                      • #435956
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >For crying out loud Raven Beak literally is wearing armor that makes him look like the countless other chozo robots
                        Yes? What did you expect chozo battle armor designed to fit a chozo to look like?

        • #435895
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You have to understand anon, the people who played AM2R have never played a metroid game.

          • #435896
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Seeing all those threads complaining about being stuck on the dumbest shit when AM2R was new got me every time

        • #435898
          Anonymous
          Guest

          he can’t fly tho

      • #436109
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Inspiration for Raven Beak and his robots?
        >robots
        Those are dead chozo infected by X, not robots.

    • #435822
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >why should I buy a 3DS + game for this remake if I could just download a free one on my computer
      considering the dozens that still cry over AM2R existing to this day I think this is a valid mindset that exists

      • #435824
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >why should I buy a 3DS + game for this remake if I could just download a free one on my computer
        And you can still do it today regardless. Nintendo for some reason had to wait until it already went public.

      • #435872
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >considering the dozens that still cry over AM2R existing to this day
        It’s more the other way around with people trying to suggest Am2r while pooping on SR whenever possible.

        • #435881
          Anonymous
          Guest

          oh no that’s what I meant, I meant the dozens existing, not AM2R existing

    • #435827
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Certain companies keep an absolute zero tolerance policy towards unofficial fan games because once you accept one it tends to be hard to stop.

      They went after AM2R because its not about if its good or not, its about making sure that people don’t go "Oh my god look at how popular this fan remake was I should make my OWN fan remake!" and then you have people thinking Nintendo is ok with their Mario and Ninja Turtles crossover fan game.

      Basically, let one slip through and you open an entire can of worms.

      • #435829
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Wow some people will make some shitty meme games! This will surely destroy your multi-billion dollar company!

        • #435830
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Can you blame a company for not wanting to risk an IP they own to become a fan fiction cesspool like Sonic the Hedgehog?

          • #435833
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Considering the only reason Sonic hasn’t been relegated to the graveyard of forgotten 90’s scotformer cereal mascots is continued fan engagement like that over the years, yeah I’d say it’s worth the cringe for them.

            • #435843
              Anonymous
              Guest

              what do you mean Sonic has been deader than a doornail for years
              the only reason they let fans make games is because they can’t do it themselves

              • #436174
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >Sonic has been deader than a doornail for years
                he got a movie in the last few years (which is getting a sequel) and there are still constant releases of games, either new ones or remakes/remasters, I think there’s even some new animated series in the works too

                that’s not dead, shit like Aero the acrobat is dead, Sonic has been kept alive by it’s autistic fanbase keeping it alive and a part of that is due to Sega letting them make fangames like Sonic robo blast 2, Sonic Utopia, Sonic Mania (which was purchased and made official early in development) etc
                you can ask a modern child what sonic the hedgehog is and they will at least have heard of it because it still exists in the public conscious, ergo, it’s not dead

          • #435834
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You say that like that hasn’t already happened

          • #435846
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Sonic is a property that’s benefited immensely from fan projects, though. Mania wouldn’t exist without that background. Capcom have historically been somewhat lax, too.

          • #435993
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Metroid is literally nowhere near the level of fanshit trash of even the mid-2000s Sonic scene.

        • #435877
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You have the potential loss of the traders and copyright if you don’t defend your creations.

        • #435888
          Anonymous
          Guest
          • #435890
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >floette wasn’t lv 69
            Amateur

      • #435889
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >its about making sure that people don’t go "Oh my god look at how popular this fan remake was I should make my OWN fan remake!" and then you have people thinking Nintendo is ok with their Mario and Ninja Turtles crossover fan game.
        Yet they still fucking do it.

      • #435892
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >LOYALTY TO THE BRAND

      • #436003
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Meanwhile Capcom adopts and officially releases fangames.

      • #436148
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >what is SEGA and Sonic Mania: A game made by romhackers and Sonic autists
        >what is SEGA and the Taxman remasters
        >what is CAPCOM and Mega Man x Street Fighter
        >what is Konami literally hiring indie devs and fans to make titles for their legacy IPs
        >what is SEGA allowing indie-tier studios to handle their IPs like Streets of Rage, Monster World and Alex Kidd
        >what is Valve and CS, Portal, L4D, and DOTA
        Fucking retard.

    • #435831
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Nah. AM2R is indeed impressive for a fan game, but it’s just a whole bunch of copy pasted assets nowhere near the level of professional work.

      • #435836
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Dreadfully low quality bait, but nice try guy

        • #435931
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >cant disprove it
          Aint bait when its true.

      • #435837
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >near the level of professional work
        Have you seen the state of the industry?

    • #435838
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Fan games that get finished are the worst thing for the people who made them since it means they can’t get hired to make the game official with a big company.

      • #435839
        Anonymous
        Guest

        You could always hire them and give them some extra resources to make an "enhanced" edition to sell like Cave Story or something.

        • #435844
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Cave Story is actually a really bad example, the creator really got the short end of the stick in the end of that arrangement

      • #435840
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Tell that to the dude that made Hunt Down the Freeman.

      • #435841
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Black Mesa is now a full priced game on steam.

    • #435842
      Anonymous
      Guest

      He ended up working on Ori, which was inferior to MercuryStream’s Metroid games, so I’d say they won.

      • #435845
        Anonymous
        Guest

        They’re very different games, and both excellent at what they set out to do

    • #435848
      Anonymous
      Guest

      You know I always thought Nintendo let the game get made. It was in dev for half a decade, and was very well known about. It wasn’t like it shadowdropped one day. I’m sure I even recall a Nintendo rep just handwaving it away as a question a few years before release. The fact they waited for it to get finished before the DMCA is really odd because they could have canned it at any stage, like they do for everything else.

      • #435851
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I’ve thought about that, too. There’s little chance they didn’t know or forgot about it. The early demos were around years before the finished game came out.

    • #435849
      Anonymous
      Guest

      NINTENDO
      HIRE
      THIS

      yeah, they should have come onto the dev, talked to him, maybe made the game a Switch exclusive or something like that, the game is fucking great, miles better than Samus Returns

      • #435850
        Anonymous
        Guest

        What is this

        • #435853
          Anonymous
          Guest

          4 references to Fusion that show up in AM2R

          • #435854
            Anonymous
            Guest

            But that’s really stupid, is it not? It’s assuming SR388 had these monsters made? Nightmare was a GF creation

            • #435855
              Anonymous
              Guest

              they’re just references, little nods
              I mean, nobody takes Metroid lore seriously, it’s just "oh, cool" and move on at best

              • #435857
                Anonymous
                Guest

                REEEEEEEE

          • #435875
            Anonymous
            Guest

            But that’s really stupid, is it not? It’s assuming SR388 had these monsters made? Nightmare was a GF creation

            they’re just references, little nods
            I mean, nobody takes Metroid lore seriously, it’s just "oh, cool" and move on at best

            >"reference"
            More like using sprites he didn’t own.

            • #435944
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Oh no! he reused some sprites in a background and edited them anyway, in his free fangame the horror!

            • #436077
              Anonymous
              Guest

              you will never be a woman

    • #435852
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought it was interesting the dmca came after the release when the project was very visible in demo phases. Sort of like the DMCA was meant to officially condemn fan games, while sidestepping the massive backlash of shutting down years and years of work.

    • #435856
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Did Nintendo’s intellectual property actually benefited by sending a DMCA to the developer?
      Are you fucking stupid? Of course it did.
      >I would have just hired the man.
      And that’s why you’re not in a position that can hire anyone.

    • #435858
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They could have hired that man, tell him to continue to work on AM2R, then sell it for 30 (if not 60) dollars.

    • #435859
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Maybe. Their strat as a general rule is to keep every one of their IPs under their control and on their platforms – you want Nintendo, you buy Nintendo. Setting the precedent that it’s alright to do whatever the fuck with certain IPs as long as they think it’s good is sort of the opposite of that strat.

      • #435910
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This. Their strategy is the same as Apple, and you know why? Because it fucking works. You know retarded you’d look if you were a teenager in high school with a fucking Android phone? Green text bubbles are the laughingstock of the Internet right now. Airpods are insanely popular. That’s how much pull Apple has on society. Nintendo knows that they can do the same for games, and looking at recent sales, it’s worked, as much as it makes everyone seethe.

        • #435913
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Their strategy is the same as Apple,
          That isn’t remotely close to apple.

          • #435920
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >keep everything in your own walled garden, jack your prices up, and sue the hell out of anyone who crosses you
            How is it not like Apple?

            • #435922
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >keep everything in your own walled garden
              You don’t even know what this means do you. If it were a walled garden the switch wouldn’t have nearly as many games. As it does now.
              >jack your prices up,
              Except they always have the cheapest system and their games are always standard price. I’d give you a company who has recently jacked up prices but you can’t mention them without someone going ballistic these days.
              >and sue the hell out of anyone who crosses you
              Anon, everyone does that. Not just apple, not just Nintendo, everyone.

              • #435958
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >and their games are always standard price.
                Yeah, always, as in, their prices never go down, and you can’t get games at a discount, you know, like every other (sensible) console manufacturer.

                • #435960
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Yeah, always, as in, their prices never go down, and you can’t get games at a discount, you know, like every other (sensible) console manufacturer.
                  So now you’re saying that Sony and Microsoft are more like apple? After all their products start of at a high price and then steadily get lower over time to make way for the next just like apple.

                • #435962
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Yeah, always, as in, their prices never go down
                  Not him but how does that make them overpriced exactly?

                  • #435966
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Because $60 for Xenoblade 2 when you can pay half that for Persona 5 Royal is ridiculous and nobody would buy that unless they’re crazy (i.e. most Nintendo fans).

                    • #435969
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Okay, but you still haven’t answered the question. How does that make them overpriced? It isn’t being sold over the standard price which is the definition of over priced.

                      • #435972
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        The standard price for an old game should be $30 yet Nintendo’s games from 2017 are still being sold for $60 as if it isn’t 2021 and we haven’t moved onto bigger and better things such as Cyberpunk.

                      • #435980
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >The standard price for an old game should be $30
                        Then the standard price for games in general would have to be 30.
                        >Cyberpunk
                        Trash taste aside what makes you think games should suddenly depreciate in value? They don’t age.

                      • #435984
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >games don’t age
                        Try playing any PS1 or N64 game in 2021 and then come back and tell me it didn’t age lol. All the old 3D Zeldas have literally aged like milk and you can watch the Game Grumps series on them to see why.

                      • #435995
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Try playing any PS1 or N64 game in 2021 and then come back and tell me it didn’t age lol.
                        Funny you would mention that since I did my yearly run off BoF 3 not too long ago. Holds up just fine.
                        Here’s a secret anon, if a game "ages" then it was never good in the first place.

                      • #436004
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Here’s a secret anon, if a game "ages" then it was never good in the first place.
                        Not the case, but advancements in game designs can render older games obsolete.

                      • #436012
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Not the case
                        It’s very much the case.
                        >but advancements in game designs can render older games obsolete.
                        HA no. Especially not with AAA games regressing and making games clunky for the sake of "realism".

                      • #436027
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        AAA trash going full tilt retard doesn’t make it not true anon.

                      • #436033
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        When a modern AAA game is worse than one made 20 years ago I would say the idea of aging games doesn’t exist.

                      • #436016
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Not the case
                        Not him but name one game that was good back then and is now considered bad.

                      • #436162
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >games age bro
                        >trust these two fucking retards as proof
                        Um.
                        No anon, I’m not a drooling retard like you.
                        Plus why should a game gt its pice slashed in half after a month?
                        You do realize that is the publisher admitting the game should never have been sold at its initial price of 60…or now even 70 bucks..and they willingly scammed your ass.
                        You’re an idiot.

                    • #435971
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      You’re not wrong, you’d have to be crazy to buy persona.

                    • #436064
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Is this how other people buy games? If I want to play Xenoblade then I’m going to buy Xenoblade. It doesn’t matter that Persona is cheaper if what I want to play is Xenoblade. For that matter, I may have already bought Persona.

            • #435926
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >keep everything in your own walled garden
              The fuck?
              Anon, a walled garden in reference to apple is about their heavily curated store. The same can’t be said about Nintendo’s eshop.

    • #435861
      Anonymous
      Guest

      American copyright law requires you to shut down/DMCA projects like AM2R, if it goes uncontested they risk losing the rights to the entire IP.

      • #435864
        Anonymous
        Guest

        No, you fucking retard.

    • #435862
      Anonymous
      Guest

      never played this. just downloaded this from a site that was the first hit on google. hope its not a virus

    • #435863
      Anonymous
      Guest

      why would you waste your time making an awesome game if you don’t own the ip?

      he deserved it for wasting his time

    • #435865
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >I would have just hired the man.
      Are you 12?

      • #435866
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It tends to work, though? Sonic Mania? The results of HIRING THAT MAN.

        • #435873
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Don’t forget a THAT MAN was HIRED to save Sonic’s atrocious movie design too

          • #435880
            Anonymous
            Guest

            The same guy that made this, no less.

      • #435868
        Anonymous
        Guest

        That used to be a common practice back in the day to hire good modders to work on your games or expansions.

        But now its all run by suits and legal depts. And it sucks dick now.

      • #435870
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >not hiring a man with a working portfolio that has tons of experience with solo projects
        Are you?

    • #435869
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I Belive 100% that if this guy had made a pitch to nintendo they would hired him, nintendo loves indie devs but they like professionalism

      • #435871
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I mean he’s got credits on the new Ori, which is on the Switch, so it all rounds out.

      • #435874
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Definitely, I mean just look at Cadence of Hyrule. Devs just wanted to use some zelda music for the switch version of Necrodancer and were approved for an entire game.

    • #435876
      Anonymous
      Guest

      lol no

      >leave AM2R alone for a bit
      >Samus Returns releases
      >make your money
      >well dries up and Samus Returns sells what it’s going to sell
      >years later, DMCA AM2R
      >Reporting on the story talks about how both parties are "working out a deal"
      >AM2R resurfaces as a paid game with Nintendo’s stamp of approval
      >Nintendo get’s to sell yet another Metroid game that they spent $0 in development time along with Samus Returns

      Win/Win

    • #435904
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Still waiting on Pokefags to make that perfect 8k, 60 fps Pokemon game with every single Pokemon available in the perfect mix, with perfect leveling for all trainers, a level curve that makes the game difficult for veteran players, perfectly balanced metagame, and the ability to use every single Pokemon they’ve ever caught.

      They keep claiming that it would only take two people a month to do it, but none of them ever do. Hell, where’s the mod for SwSh that adds all Pokemon, all moves, and better, fully articulated models? I was told that would be ready within a month after release.

      • #435925
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >They keep claiming that it would only take two people a month to do it
        no they don’t
        >I was told that would be ready within a month after release.
        no you weren’t

        • #435939
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You’re deeply underestimating the stupidity of Pokefags and their even more idiotic fangame creators.

      • #435937
        Anonymous
        Guest

        nice blog fag

      • #435976
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Every single aspect as a combo has never been desired, as far as I know. Pokemon Sage did a lot right for the balancing, leveling curve, difficulty, and all pokemon able to be used at endgame, due to having different roles.

      • #436018
        Anonymous
        Guest

        it takes a special kind of autist to care about pokemon this much
        the moment I knew that there was an entire turbo autist community dedicated to competitive pokemon with stupid amounts of min maxing and dick measuring, I knew I outgrew the whole franchise

        • #436044
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >tfw you remember friends getting legitimately angry that the official Strategy Guide for HGSS mentioned IVs and EVs because "now the causals will know!"

          I’m glad we got to experience pic related, but I’m more glad I stopped playing after Gen 4.

    • #435907
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Unironiclly yes. Dread would not have been a big of a hit if Metroid fans weren’t starved

      • #435911
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Dread is easily outselling every other Metroid game
        >Its only being bought because Metroid fans are desperate

        • #435912
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yes. You’ve been given instructions on how to emulate and everything with Nintendo’s reputation online being dirt low and you still choose to eat shit

          • #435914
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Nice bait attempt, but it is coming on too strongly.

            Next time make sure you disguise the hook a bit better.

    • #435917
      Anonymous
      Guest

      blocked people from seeing the superior remake

      • #435919
        Anonymous
        Guest

        What game?

    • #435923
      Anonymous
      Guest

      AM2R had this little thing where you would get scans of the enemies and places you visited. I would have loved that in Dread.

    • #435947
      Anonymous
      Guest

      if fucking half life could survive hunt down the freeman with alyx moving hundreds of thousands of expensive as fuck peripherals I highly doubt any fan game would do anything to any brand

      nintendo are just fucking retarded poopyholes like always

    • #435954
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes, because it buzzed up coverage about both games, have you seen how many SR/AM2R comparison/analysis/retrospective/review videos there are?

    • #435964
      Anonymous
      Guest

      If youre making a cool thing that has a nintendo title in it
      Shut the fuck up about it, retard
      literally just don’t, just release it and slip away

      Best part is we got 2 fucking 2D metroid games of Samus Returns
      exactly the "sweet 2 cakes" image

      literally everyone won

      • #435967
        Anonymous
        Guest

        But what made it unique, is that while they were very public about it for years, Nintendo did not say a single word until after it was already released publicly.

    • #435973
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >it was a shame that he got DMCA?
      yes
      >it would have been better if nintnedo just hired him?
      Fuck no, they would have downgraded the product if anything

      the argentinian dev, wrote a love letter to metroid enjoyers for fucking free, in a time when there was ZERO interest on metroid coming from nintendo
      the only people pooping on AM2R are zealous nintendo drones
      they just don’t understand their own audience, apparently only spics can make decent metroid games (dread, AM2R) now

      • #435982
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >the only people pooping on AM2R
        Anon, no one shits on it.

      • #435985
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >dread, AM2R
        Only one of these games was made by a spic.

        • #435988
          Anonymous
          Guest

          don’t even start that gay discussion you know what I meant

          • #435998
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Use the right slur then, melanoid.

    • #435978
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Not the first or the last thing that nintendo DMCA’d.
      Nintendo is well know for not allowing anything that could potentially equal or best than their products maded.
      Things like uranium, fanfics, histories, plots, etc, nintendo does not like this.
      They just like that you buy anything from theirs and not potentially consume from a third pary (Ignoring that is not gaining profits at all).

      From the most companies out there, nintendo is probably in the industry of game the most jealous of their own contents.
      >Including to the point of DMCA some streamers from wii, switch and similar few years ago.
      Dont know how agresive still nintendo is about their content but anything that you do and have a little spin of fame is going to be chased down by the big red N

    • #435986
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I just found out today someone made a fully functional Switch port. Pretty based tbqh.

    • #435992
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Man, it would be so cool if Zero Mission, AM2R, Super, and Fusion were all on one Switch cartridge.

    • #435997
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why do people love to perform fellatio on the video game equivalent to fan faction? I guess it feels more like other Metroid games compared to the garbage Mercury Stream has shat out but at least it’s official shit.

      • #435999
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Other than the enemy scans, there is nothing what I would call fanfiction. It’s just a unofficial remake.

        • #436002
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >there is nothing what I would call fanfiction.
          So you haven’t played AM2R then.

          • #436024
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Are you saying that the two optional secret areas, are enough to make the entire thing fanfiction?

      • #436000
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Because they assume that fangames "fix" what was wrong with regular releases, when 90% of fangames are still just sprite hacks and level editors.

        • #436006
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Pretty much, Am2r was basically just ZM but far more boring.

      • #436083
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Because no one cares about the story, gameplay is why people play Metroid games.

    • #436008
      Anonymous
      Guest

      whatever happened to Prime 2D anyway?
      did it got cancelled?

      • #436009
        Anonymous
        Guest

        DMCA’d a couple weeks after they put out a demo

        • #436026
          Anonymous
          Guest

          wow gay, demo was cool
          I would have re-skinned the character and called it NOT-METROID or something, and actually sell it. I hope the devs could work something out in those lines

          • #436046
            Anonymous
            Guest

            If they reskinned it, then instantly no one will care about it anymore, and it’ll be thrown into the pile of the other ten thousand indie games that didn’t get the recognition they deserved.

            The only reason anyone cares, is because it features Samus and the Metroid universe.

    • #436015
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why the hell is ever big fan game DMCA’d now? Is it because they basically hold press releases instead of just talking about it on a forum and spreading hype through word-of-mouth?

      • #436022
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Is it because they basically hold press releases instead of just talking about it on a forum and spreading hype through word-of-mouth?
        Pretty much. Once they become too popular they have to act on it and expect more DMCA’s to come since a bunch of fangame makers had the brilliant idea of making a fan game direct

        • #436029
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >fan game direct
          That’s genuinely the cringiest shit I think I’ve heard all year.

          • #436031
            Anonymous
            Guest

            That’s just what fans do

          • #436034
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You want to know the best part? They released it TWO DAYS AFTER THE REAL DIRECT

      • #436036
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yeah, Pokemon Prism got shut down after they released a fancy ass trailer on Youtube with like a million views in a day. Stuff like that and idiots at Kotaku making articles are usually what gets these projects canned.

    • #436038
      Anonymous
      Guest

      nintendo is a retarded company, remember when they went on a war against youtubers disney style and killing free advertisement?

      • #436042
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I wish they did. Youtubers are the fucking worst.

      • #436050
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Too bad it didn’t work. I’d love to have seen some Poketubers lose their livelihoods.

    • #436040
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes, because now everyone thinks that Metroid isn’t worth full price. Thanks to some dude releasing a Metroid game for free. It devalued the IP in people’s eyes. It would have been way worse if AM2R wasn’t suppressed. And it could have been way better for Nintendo if they managed to stop him before release.

      • #436048
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It’s a fucking side-scroller game in 2021, that shit is indie/arcade tier. Full 3d platforming/fps/open world is the meta.

        • #436055
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Tell that to Metroid fans. If any non-Prime Metroid game WASN’T a sidescroller, they’d sent death threats to Nintendo for "not respecting the hardcore audience".

      • #436061
        Anonymous
        Guest

        What "devalued" metroidvanias is the fact that most of them are 20-30 bucks and three times as long as Dread nowadays.
        Aside from some nerds that lurk video game forums nobody even knows about AM2R let alone played it.
        If anything AM2R was a free advertisement for zoomers who didn’t play 2D Metroid 20 years ago.

        • #436066
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >and three times slower than Dread nowadays.
          Ftfy
          The longest metroidvanias are Hollow Knight and Ender Lillies but they’re also the slowest in the genre with fair amount of grinding and backtracking which other games don’t really have.

        • #436074
          Anonymous
          Guest

          That’s part of it. But only part.

          >Aside from some nerds that lurk video game forums nobody even knows about AM2R let alone played it.
          But a lot of people like knowing about popular indie games, even if they don’t play them. And their takeway will be "one man released a Metroid game for free". That for free part will really stick in their mind. And so when Samus Returns came out they think, I’ll just emulate this. And now that Dread has come out, you have mainstream media promoting emulating it.

          Keep in mind that Samus Returns was only 40 bucks. Same as a similar game: Bloodstained. Somehow Bloodstained sold over a million copies. While Samus Returns sold only over half a million. https://www.thegamer.com/metroid-dread-sales-series-records-history-switch/

          How does that happen? How does a game featuring Samus, a character featured in Super Smash Bros sell less than the indie rip off of Castlevania? And Bloodstained suffered bad press due to its initially bad graphics before it was upgraded.

          • #436168
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >how does a 3ds game coming out at the ass end of the 3ds hen the switch was out sell jack nothing
            Gee anon, idfk. How could it happen.
            Maybe MS and AlphaDream shouldn’t have been stalling stubborn idiots?

      • #436088
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >It devalued the IP in people’s eyes.
        Holy cope.

        Nintendo twiddling their thumbs with Metroid and Konami twiddling their thumbs with Igavania Castlevanias while the indie scene flooded the market with a dime and dozen Metroid/Castlevania clones is what permanently devalued the IP sine it was the final nail in the coffin of selling those games at full price on a console.

        Could have been prevented if Nintendo just kept consistently making 2D Metroids and Konami kept consistently making Igavanias, but nope. They have no one else but themselves to blame.

        Dread is selling great now, but man it would explode if it’s price was lowered a bit

    • #436057
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >nintendo takes metroid into 3D
      >cancels it
      >some american studio makes a FPS game
      >nintendo slaps metroid on it
      >metroid prime is born
      >japan attempts metroid again
      >other M happens
      >metroid is abandoned for all time like f-zero
      >fan game shows up
      >nintendo just happened to be remaking the same fucking game lol
      >C&D the fuck out of him
      >take out rom-shitters.com or something while they’re at it to make a point
      >metroid sales shoot up far beyond their expectations
      >make some shit in the same engine and slap on the "dread" subtitle for fanfare
      >40 year old men lose their fucking minds over it
      >make a kotaku article about it
      >pretend to be mad and take it down
      >now everyone is talking about it
      nintendo is not the same company you grew up with

      • #436059
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Very appropriate image anon because what you said was fucking retarded.

      • #436068
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >muh best friend Nintendo
        Nintendo was ALWAYS a sinister. You just don’t care because you didn’t have a developed Bullshit Detector as a kid.

        >Nintendo would literally boycott stores that cared the SEGA Genesis when it first came out
        >Nintendo is the reason why renting games in Japan is illegal and why American rental stores never had box art or manuals
        >Had a stranglhold on who or what published on their consoles and would punish you for making games for the competition
        >The base engine for SM64 was stolen from Argonauts; Miyamoto even laughed in the lead dev’s face the year after it came out, saying "thanks for the code".
        >Square will still never release a mainline Final Fantasy on a Nintendo console when it first comes out because of their bullshit around the N64
        >There’s a REASON all of Nintendo’s big third party partners left for the Playstation in 94.
        >Iwata was made president by Yamauchi out of spite for his son-in-law never gaining market dominance in the US.

        • #436070
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I honestly don’t understand why anti-tendies see Nintendo as a friend rather than a company that just makes good games.

        • #436075
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Fucking hell anon, next to none of this is true.
          Seeing Nintendo as a friend is bad but seeing them as a complete and utter devil to the point where you’ll make up bullshit like this.
          >>The base engine for SM64 was stolen from Argonauts; Miyamoto even laughed in the lead dev’s face the year after it came out, saying "thanks for the code".
          Is even worse.

          • #436085
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Nintendo limiting releases on the Famicom/NES and Sony sweet-talking Namco, Capcom, and Square away from Nintendo due to them losing the favored position they had back in the 80s are true, at least. Nintendo isn’t the squeaky-clean company people like to think they are.

            The Argonauts thing is specifically a dumb rumour Brits spread around because they’ve always hated Nintendo. IIRC, they claim that the beta for fucking CROC was stolen because it was suppose to be a Yoshi game.

            • #436090
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Nintendo isn’t the squeaky-clean company people like to think they are.
              That’s why I’m saying both are equally as bad. Separate the company from the game and you’ll be much better off for it.
              that said limiting releases was a necessary evil

              • #436095
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >dat spoiler
                True, but A.) People don’t want to hear that and B.) Nintendo was never consistent with it.

                • #436098
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Nintendo was never consistent with it.
                  Eh, giving leeway to things that sell gang busters is pretty consistent to me. After all the reason they did it in the first place was to avoid shovelware that would eventually end up in a landfill like all of the third party games that caused the crash.

        • #436079
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >>The base engine for SM64 was stolen from Argonauts;
          Sm64 was in development long before Argonaut was making their Yoshi game.

    • #436087
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Hire him for what? They already have more than enough devs.

    • #436116
      Anonymous
      Guest

      NINTENDO, ARREST THIS MAN!
      ARREST HIM!

    • #436118
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I decided to try out samus returns after dread and holy fuck this game is complete shit. I can’t believe these devs went from making the worst metroid to one of the best metroids.

      • #436122
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >worst metroid

        • #436124
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yeah samus returns fucking sucks ass.

          • #436126
            Anonymous
            Guest

            To call it the worst metroid is hyperbolic though.
            Unless you are honestly going to tell me with a straight face that Other M is better

            • #436128
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Other m doesn’t exist.

              • #436130
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Yeah sure just like how there isn’t a Tsukihime anime

                • #436131
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Exactly.

    • #436137
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Nintendo did good, AM2R was a fucking broken, unplayable fucking mess that was an embarrassment to the original game. I don’t support DMCA takedowns usually but I was 100% behind this one. Fuck AM2R.

    • #436141
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I don’t get why these aspies are smart enough to make an entire game that almost looks official, but instead of making it "inspired by [famous IP]" they just use trademarked names and risk having years of their work erased. With AM2R in particular this solution would’ve been very easy, since the game was made from scratch, it’s not a ROM hack. Change the layout of the rooms a little bit and the design of the characters and voila, an instant success indie metroidvania heavily inspired by Metroid II

    • #436146
      Anonymous
      Guest

      What form of mental retardation does it take to suck the dick of billion dollar corporations?

      If it was up to these people they would literally get all art banned that isnt made under a corporate license that the (unqualified) 0.1% got access to through garden gnome connections. I’m starting to think that literature and MAYBE music are the only artforms in the whole world since everything else is purely dominated by corporations and their resources

      • #436150
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Vidya also has an indie scene with games made by small teams, some of them are trash and unoriginal, some of them are beyond what AAA studios achieve.
        The corporation cocksucking mentality on Ganker somehow memed the attitude that indie = bad into existence though.

        • #436154
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I guess you arent wrong, the reason why I dont equate indie games with music bands is probably just because its much harder to end up in a team like that versus a band

          • #436158
            Anonymous
            Guest

            That’s true. I guess it’s due to the different nature of developing games and making music, the latter seemingly being a lot more of a natural process requiring less organization biased opinion because I play instruments but can’t code.
            Being in a band that makes their own stuff and has a nameable audience is very hard and dependend on luck too though.

    • #436152
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why the fuck don’t they give you more save points?
      Yaaaay I beat 3 metroids and ended up accidentally running into a boss with no health and have to do all of it again. Poorly designed piece of shit.

      • #436160
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Now capitalism has lead us to empty store shelves
        Thats why every metroid game since super marks boss rooms with an eye monster door

    • #436171
      Anonymous
      Guest

      574698362
      go to bed ACfag.

      • #436172
        Anonymous
        Guest

        t. druckmann

        Don’t you have a pro golf tournament to shoehorn into your lesbian zombie game?

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