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Elden bros….
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>we want the Skyrim audience
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It’s over
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It’s unironically soulfful you fucking idiotw
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Yes! I can’t wait to start a game and see a marker whick shows where to go in order to complete a quest.
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Except it doesn’t you have to climb a tower first and observe yourself
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So Ubisoft towers in Elden Ring is a good thing?
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Don’t bother, cultists have an amazing ability to rationalize literally everything and truly, fully believe in it, even if it’s something they hated before.
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It’s not Ubisoft towers retard. This actually takes effort and is like a minidungeon with you reward being a way to look at areas.
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>it’s Ubisoft towers, but different
>therefore it’s not Ubisoft towers-
Prove it is? You can’t do stfu
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this is genuinely just cope
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yeah wow very cool how about not having the fucking towers at all
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>Less optional features = good
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I don’t know. DS2 haters always say the game is bad because it’s the longest, with most content and build variety.
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Jesus just trust the fucking japs to make a good game. They know who the target market is and that you fucking neckbears.
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Don’t worry. You will gave Ubisoft towers so you won’t get lost, if you play solo with jo phantoms you can’t be invaded. Hell, they may even add easy mode or boosters to help you. I am not judging, you csn play however you want.
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>not getting invaded is easy mode
kek, I got invaded against my will maybe once in DS1
Imagine being such a casual melanoid that you constantly go into human form so you can summon if you have trouble
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It could literally look any way imaginable and Ganker would still cry a river of tears
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>Critisism isn’t allowed
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>"OH NO NO NO NO"
>"Elden Bros…"
>"Shazam, I kneel"
Nice criticism-
cope
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Only trannies and leftists say "cope".
Which are you?
I mean, they’re practically the same thing, I’m just curious.
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This
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Yeah, because it shouldn’t exist, skyrim compass in a souls game is casualized trash, specially when you have a giant tree as a reference point
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Souls games by From Software have had compases before Skyrim even came out. Fuck off retard.
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It’s not a problem of graphics. It’s the stupid UI.
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please understand i just want ot post tyhe funny superhero man sipping his drink
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If that compass wasn’t there, there would be a fraction of the hate.
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>dark souls 3
>but you can jump
wow very impress-
>dark souls 3
>but you can jump
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Compass at the top is useful and makes sense
compass at the top that automatically points you to every new task so you’re on an effectively linear railroad of a game is terrible and will ruin everything
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Maybe it’s not how it seems. Maybe it’s a player created marker or isn’t simply a "go here" thing.
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>Maybe it’s a player created marker
It is.
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Would be cooler to just use that fuck off massive tree as a reference point since I assume you can see it from most of the map
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>Would be cooler to just use that fuck off massive tree
schizo moment
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If the compass wasn’t going to be littered with icons it wouldn’t be a horizontal compass and would just be a small radial dial. This is going to be a mess.
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A small radial dial takes up several times more space on the screen are you retarded
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You’re an absolute retard. If it was only directions it’s tiny. It clearly is going to be full of icons.
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It’s fucking perfect.
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>looks worse than dark souls 3
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could be real
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This better be without postprocessing. Nearby objects just look bad.
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It’s typical Japanese studio going open world and not knowing how to maintain the quality they had before across the board.
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It’s recorded from a base Xbox One
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That is one ugly clipping
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So it’s a Tolkien ripoff? That fat fuck should drop dead already.
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That jump animation looks goofy as fuck. Is there a fart sound to explain how you get that much vertical movement without using your legs?
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Don’t care about the graphics quality or the compass what bothers me the most about this is how soulless and boring the world looks. What the fuck happened to From Softwares art department?
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This tbh.
Biggest problem for me as well.
It might be less of a problem with the art-department and more of underestimating creating high-quality environments and areas for an entire open-world.
They just aren’t capable of this level of quality across the entire game world, so my guess is all the good areas will be purely in the legacy dungeons and the rest will be this bland and boring landscape, creating a big disparity between the content the game provides.-
that is correct
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It’s not just the map design though. I am sure "dead world illuminated by a golden shine from a giant magic tree" sounded like a good idea on paper but the way it’s implemented is awful because thanks to its glow and the yellow-grey colour palette the entire area looks really fucking ugly. It’s almost amateurish.
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It’s very hard to create vast open world that has constantly something interesting to look at.
Previous FROM games compress all the interesting stuff to a much smaller space.-
That’s the problem every game has now with open world. You can’t put enough interesting things going on for it to be worth a damn. In addition, the foliage density and etc. is pretty shit, it looks more like an open wasteland than the forests and plains that was described.
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This tbh.
Biggest problem for me as well.
It might be less of a problem with the art-department and more of underestimating creating high-quality environments and areas for an entire open-world.
They just aren’t capable of this level of quality across the entire game world, so my guess is all the good areas will be purely in the legacy dungeons and the rest will be this bland and boring landscape, creating a big disparity between the content the game provides.Are you fucking retarded? This is the same company famous for N64 Woods.
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Literally DS2 which is better than DS3.
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>Scabbard clips through the cape
MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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12 YEARS AND STILL THIS IS THE SHIT YOU GIVE ME?
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>From tries their hand at ‘open world’
>creates a bland-looking map full of empty, wide open spaces
>has Skyrim compass and Ubisoft watch towers
I am so sick of the modern blueprint for open world games.-
Wha are "Ubisoft towers"? I don’t play Ubisoft games so i don’t know what people mean by it
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Towers sprinkled around the game world that you interact in some way with to reveal points of interest on your map.
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When were those confirmed
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In an interview from a month ago.
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>You can zoom in from this structure, finding dungeons that will be automatically marked on your map.
So more like BotW towers except they don’t actually give you the map for that area, you have to find it as an item.>Skyrim compass
There’s a compass but what exactly makes it a Skyrim compass? King’s Field had a compass. It’s confirmed that the only marker(s) you get is/are placed manually and it’s possible that you only get one at a time. Skyrim’s compass gives you all POIs in a certain range even if you haven’t discovered them yet.-
>So more like BotW towers except they don’t actually give you the map for that area, you have to find it as an item.
I’m not a betting man, but if I was I’d put good money on said item being found at the Watchtower. -
>There’s a compass but what exactly makes it a Skyrim compass?
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>King’s Field had a compass.
Yes, but I don’t think it guided players to any points of interest, it was there for aesthetic purposes more than anything else if I remember correctly.-
>I don’t think it guided players to any points of interest
Neither does the Elden Ring compass unless you count a manually placed marker as a POI.-
>Neither does … unless
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>compass with no markers
>compass with one player placed marker that is only useful if you’ve already at least seen the POI at a distance
>compass that shows all POIs even if you have no other way of knowing they’re there
Which two are the most similar? Also, you’ll be shocked to learn that marking a point on a map, noting down various measurements and using a compass to navigate there is how you do it in real life.
>there are not quest markers, it’s already confirmed that the only markers in the game are markers you can set on the map yourself
Seems conflicting.How is that a quest marker? It’s just like the sword beam in SotC.
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So which is it? Automatically marking dungeons on your map, or manually placing light beams?>you can zoom in on a dungeon to automatically mark it on your map
>you can manually place a marker on the map that will be visible in game and on the compass
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>Also, you’ll be shocked to learn that marking a point on a map, noting down various measurements and using a compass to navigate there is how you do it in real life.
That’s right, you mark things down on your map, you don’t have icons magically appear on your compass pointing in their direction.
>These are two very different things and it seems like you only get one manual marker at a time.
Oh, does it seem that way to you? How come? How do you know it doesn’t mark them automatically on your map and add their icons to your compass? -
it doesn’t put a bunch of markers on your compass. when you find one of the ubisoft towers icons of nearby dungeons get added to your map and if you want to you can add a marker to the map and an icon will appear on your compass
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So it’s still brainless, you just have to go through busy work of swapping what POI you want to track, got it.
We’ll see.
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Frankly I don’t see much of a problem with the tower POIs being added to the compass even if there’s no indication that that’s how the game will work. Like you say, it’s more or less the same outcome either way. The real problem with the Skyrim compass is that it tells you where POIs are even if you’ve never seen them before or have no way of knowing that there’s something there in the first place, and it’s quite clear that in Elden Ring nothing will be marked if you haven’t already taken a good look at it.
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>How do you know it doesn’t mark them automatically on your map and add their icons to your compass?
Because the interviews never relate these two systems and supposedly the press footage shows that this doesn’t happen.
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it was there because maps didnt have player location so you had to do actual orienteering. at least in kings field 1 and 2. 3 had an automap thing so its kinda pointless in that game.
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>has Skyrim compass and Ubisoft watch towers
Where do all you retards come from?-
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From Software has been using the "Skyrim compass" (whatever the fuck that means) way before Skyrim ever came out. We already discussed this in the thread.
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>We already discussed this in the thread.
Funny then how you missed the point where a "Skyrim compass" is specifically that which features points of interest located on it.-
Cool. Good thing Elden Ring’s compass doesn’t do that, just like in earlier From Software games
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>Good thing Elden Ring’s compass doesn’t do that
You can literally see a POI in this webmIt’s fucking perfect.
Even if it’s placed by the player, it’s still functionally the same thing. Honestly, considering how the compass is designed I’d be surprised if it didn’t end up displaying more information during casual play, otherwise why even have it constantly on screen in that position in the first place. Even the King’s Field games had the compass tucked away in the corner.
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Wait WTF where are these clips coming from
SHUT IT DOWN
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Looks nice but jump kinda feels janky like skyrim. Similar to sekiro’s stealth shit.
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I wonder if this game will be smaller or larger than Skyrims map, I’m hoping for larger
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it’s botw big
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Is botw bigger than skyrim?
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Marginally
Mostly because things are on a bigger scale
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I’m hoping it’s smaller. Something like Morrowind with a good concentration of content instead of vast empty fields of jack shit would be better.
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background a bit wishy washy
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I don’t like handholding as any other fromfag, but this isn’t enough to make the game bad.
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Is a compass considered handholding?
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It’s just for icons that you marked yourself you retard
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source?
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That’s not what I asked and I was expressing confusion that a compass was apparently being considered hand holding.
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From King’s Field to Demon’s in 10 years. From Demon’s to Skyrim in another 10.
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>NOOOO A COMPASS IN MY OPEN WORLD GAME
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Looks great
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Wtf is this poo poo voice
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>ugly letters
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I fucking KNOW you people aren’t crying about a compas in a From Software King’s Soulsborn style game. There is no fucking way.
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That kind of compass without any icons is not the same as Skyrim shit that doesn’t even show you all 4 cardinal directions at once.
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>that doesn’t even show you all 4 cardinal directions at once
You mean like the one from King’s Field II that’s pictured in that very image?-
Also, they’re functionally identical. It’s a fucking compas.
Yeah, it was shit back then too. The one on the left is good though, it’s how a compass actually looks and works.
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you’ve never played king’s field, coping secondary
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>you’ve never played king’s field, coping secondary
Pic related, eat my dick.
Not that my playing it has any relation to whether it’s good design or not, now stop the ad hominems and bad faith arguing.It tells you the direction you’re facing. It’s not complicated.
That’s not how a compass works in real life. And even though I agree that it showing the way you’re facing is a good idea, I think not showing all 4 directions at once is a terrible way to do it.
>it’s how a compass actually looks and works
*blocks you’r bath*Okay, you got me there.
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It tells you the direction you’re facing. It’s not complicated.
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>it’s how a compass actually looks and works
*blocks you’r bath*-
got one of these in my car
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You mean like the compas in King’s Field 2 and 3, one of which is shown in the post you responded to? Look at the whole picture, not just the left side.
Also, they’re functionally identical. It’s a fucking compas.
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The fuck you need all four at once for? If you know one you know the other three if your IQ isn’t room temp.
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Lol this
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That works if it’s a real compass where you can instantly see where the north is. Rather than just a small FoV of a section of the compass, so you have to spin around to find north first
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Hence a radial
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Ya know, I should have read the quote chain
Anyway, this game will clearly have a map so even a radial compass is pointless since you can just check your facing on the map
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>section of the compass, so you have to spin around to find north first
No you don’t, you fucking retard. If the compass says "E" then north is 90 degrees to your left. If it says "S" then it’s 180 degrees left OR right. You know this, because the game is telling you what fucking direction you’re facing.-
Except we were talking about a compass that doesn’t show all 4 cardinal directions
Learn to read before you get mad next time 🙂-
Yes. So am I. Because you don’t need to be shown all 4. It’s pointless. Read my post again.
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>Yes. So am I
>If the compass says "E"
We’re talking about a compass that only has N on it
Won’t even bother reading your next post since you’ll either try to cope with being wrong or still seethe about not being able to read-
What the fuck is this argument about
What’s the bad thing about this compass
The King’s Field compass pictured hereI fucking KNOW you people aren’t crying about a compas in a From Software King’s Soulsborn style game. There is no fucking way.
was a ball with big letters because it had to be visible on a 360p TV across the room, not a 1440p monitor two feet from the face. This compass is just an evolution of that and works the same. It has all directions written down on it, it spins the direction you’re facing, and it doesn’t show the full cardinal directions because they can be insinuated from what you are seeing.
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Good job posting the compass we weren’t talking about. Stellar reading comprehension
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someone needs to mod in the KF compass when elden comes out
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Because visual calculation is faster than mental, and having a compass wrapping around you 360º is incredibly gamey, the opposite of diagetic, and completely takes you out of the experience. You’ll spend more time staring at the top of your screen to see where you’re going than actually taking in the sights and appreciating the world.
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>You’ll spend more time staring at the top of your screen to see where you’re going than actually taking in the sights and appreciating the world.
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Don’t use this as an excuse, there’s none for using compass as default in modern day adventure games, and using a game that aged like milk is certainly a terrible excuse
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>aged
Opinion thrown in the trashVideo games don’t age. They are either good or bad at release, and they stay that way forever. The only thing that changes is how casualized you became.
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So they got rid of using visual cues to guide exploration and instead have quest markers? Lame.
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They’re both in this just makes it more Accessible you gatekeeping fuck
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>Accessible
Damn. I had hopes for this one.
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more like Dark Souls V Skyrim
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WHENS THE FUCKING NETWORK TEST
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it’s over before it even releases LMAO
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compas fucks immersion and the feeling of being lost. You don’t have to pay attention to the world anymore since the gps tells you where to go.
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A compass isn’t a GPS, retard.
I swear, have you zoomers even seen a fucking compass before?
It literally only shows you North, South, and West, that’s it. That’s all a compass does. It can’t actually tell you where to go or any shit like that.
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Wow some retard here seems to have a problem with the simple concept of "skyrim compas", which entails quest markers, you faggot.
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Just remove the unnecessary visuals and just have the compass. That’s all you need to traverse the map since it tells you where to go.
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>options
>ui
>compass on/off
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let’s add difficulty lvls then
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> find directions without any cues since the game is structured around quest markers.
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This. The quest objectives will just be: "follow quest marker to next location"
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>basing all his knowledge of the game based off of prelease marketing and a 27 second clip and coming to his own conclusions before the game is even out
also there are not quest markers, it’s already confirmed that the only markers in the game are markers you can set on the map yourself-
>a beam of light you can go to
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No it’s good because Breath of the Wild did it.
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Breath of the Wild is shit though
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the greatest open world game of all time*
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I’m being facetious.
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>there are not quest markers, it’s already confirmed that the only markers in the game are markers you can set on the map yourself
Seems conflicting.-
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So which is it? Automatically marking dungeons on your map, or manually placing light beams?The "Lost Grace" thingies are these beams of light coming from the big tree. I don’t think they show up on the map from what I understand.
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>beam of light will appear in the overworld
>also a marker will appear on your compass
Seems redundant.-
It’s actually a good thing because it means you can turn off the compass and use the beams of light to guide you instead.
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>it means you can turn off the compass
That would make sense, but I’ve been burnt too many times expecting modern videogames to follow common sense when it comes to player experience/UI customization.
I’ll believe it when I see it. It still makes me wonder why they bothered in the first place, as if a giant beam of light existing in the game world would be too hard to follow for some reason.
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im baffled how bad that leak looked in every aspect
someone could leak an entire playthrough and just call it "dark souls 3 mod campaign" and no one would notice
there is probably webms on Ganker of elden ring in Dark souls threads and people just didn’t notice that its different game
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looks like fucking onions of war, i will disable in an instant
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disable it*
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The network test will BTFO all Shazamfags
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how does it look worse than botw, a 2017 wii u game
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>Why does a game that’s 5 DS3s bolted together look worse than a shit game?
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>tfw I have 0 sense of direction
T-thats so Skyrim, haha. R-right guys? -
skyrim bros… we won.
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This game just has too many red flags with each update. My hype is dead. I am gonna pirate it before considering to buy it.
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Name a open world game that doesn’t have a compass or minimap
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I don’t think Gothic 2 has one but it’s been fucking ages
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Far Cry 2
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Dark Souls
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not open world
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Imagine if this ruins the reception of the game like those batman remasters did
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>compass isn’t an animated compass item on your equipment dpad
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lol that webm
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>press M
>your character take out a cloth map from his sack while the camera zooms into it
>it’s a real ass hand-drawn map, the accuracy of which determined by your Int stat
>there’s a compass at the side that always points north so you have to orientate yourself-
I’ve always wanted a game that changes the quality of information the player receives by the character’s own stats.
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Some RPGs do it, but mostly relating to speech and interacting with NPCs. I think there’s a dungeon crawler that abstracts it by making it an XP multiplier.
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disco elysium
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Why would it be determined by int? No one but actual explorers whose job is mapmaking would draw their own map. Not even in ye olde faux-Medieval times
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Because people are retarded and don’t know how to read maps. If you can read a map, normies think you’re weird.
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Because spatial intelligence is a type of int. And unless you’re going to break it down into different IQ/EQ measurements then general int is the best stat.
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Spatial awareness, the thing that so many people lack that adding a fucking realtime compass is so fucking frequent, completely ruining adventure games
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Adventuring without a compass is retarded. Why would you do that?
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>fleeing into a chinese construction site with a liveleak watermark floating in the air
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this is the real crime.
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ds2 tier hitbox
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>schizophrenia enjoyment intensifies
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it’s over soulsfags, give it up
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im gonna play it and there is nothing you can do to stop me
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>Compass is bad because… IT JUST IS OKAY!
Compass is great for an open-world game and completely and utterly shits all over mini-maps as a mechanic.
Go fuck yourself senseless.-
Ganker is tsundere for BotW and wants that but in a way that lets them deny it.
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am I the only one here who genuinely hates BotW because of the """"""music""""""""""?
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>it’s BIG Dark Souls
based.
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Don’t ruin the sense of adventure for others because you lack spatial awareness in ADVENTURE games you fucking apologist, you are a pest
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It’s pretty fucking normal for adventurers, hikers, and mountain climbers to carry compasses, on them, anon.
Where did this retarded statement of "TRUE ADVENTURERS DON’T USE A COMPASS!!!" come from? They absolutely fucking do.-
Are you one of those autists who take everything people say literally? That anon is clearly talking about the type of compass that features in-game information on it, not a standard compass you briefly pull out to gain a sense of direction.
Elden Ring having a compass item your character pulls out at times would honestly be better than the floating UI graphic that will be sitting on-screen all the time with whatever marker you’ve placed down. Would also encourage the player to use distant landmarks in the game’s world to help tell general directions instead.
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>sekiro will never get a sequel because the average soulsfag literally can’t beat the ogre or the granny so they all refund and hate the game
>instead we get an even more dumbed down (lol) souls game
it’s sad but it’s what it is-
I think it’s good because Souls games are too hard so I want to be able to grind through any of the challenge.
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>Demon’s Souls
>people love it because it came out in a time where games started to treat you like a baby with handholding
>no quest marks, no ubisoft towers
>Elden ring
>exact oppositeWe’ve reach full circle
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Ganker is scared of navigation tools now
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Damn soulsniggas coping so hard right now that they’re going to unironically pretend people haven’t been pooping on waypoints and shit for years now.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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Just cancelled my pre-order. Fuck this shit.
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Enjoy your skyrim.
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Why wouldn’t the character have a compass?
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The character should have a compass, but it should framed as an object the character pulls out and uses, not a consistent, abstract UI element. Kinda like how in Farcry 2 the in-game map was a physical object your character pulled out in real time.
Feels weird to be complimenting an open world Ubisoft game for something.
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So did it leak or what?
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These games have been huge among normalfags for ages now, this is just a consequence of that
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it’s over
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>whistles for deer horse
>autoruns on road to quest marker
>"Mhmm….giant slash marks all over the victim….a Draugrs™, gotta be"
>"Come on, Voach"
>follows nose
>guy in Draugr™ costumes appear
>"Hand it over…..that thing….your Elden Ring™ piece"
>*epic choir starts playing* *spams roll dodge till you find an opening, attack, roll some more*
>-YGGDRASIL GUARDIAN VANQUISHED-
>*light up check point, teleport back to HUB*
>"TOUCH THE LIGHT INSIDE ME TO POWER UP CHOSEN ONE"
>VOOOOOOOSHHHHHH LEVEL UP -
rip From. zoomies fault.
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you will still buy it
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you faggots get what you fucking deserve!!!
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people will defend this
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>low LOD models in the distance exist in almost every single 3d video game ever made
>it exists in Elden Ring
>OHHHHH MYYYY NOOOO WAY THAT IS JUST TOO MUCH, PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY DEFEND THIS OH MY GOD
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