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>fan fixes loading times by 70%
What the fuck is this shit? How incredibly incompetent is Rockstar that this was never caught before release??? Even a basic napkin math calculation would have told them that to load X GB worth of assets into ram shouldn’t take this long.
There is absolutely no excuse for this bug to exist. Are diversity hires really this bad? No wonder AAA video games are such dog shit these days.
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Nintendo would have DMCA’d it
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10 grand isn’t nearly enough for making online (THE fucking cash cow) playable
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God, that would’ve been hilarious.
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Rent free
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Its 100% true nindicksucker.
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Fucking seethe ninten year old, he’s right
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you can’t even make a simple joke without tendies doing cartwheels and screeching autistically, amazing.
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Nintendo would have DMCA it and also appropriate it, like they did with the NES emulator
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Dread could really use a loading time patch.
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This. It’s one of my two complaints with the game.
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Take-Two SUED a group that reverse engineered GTA III and Vice City. They’re scum.
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They DMCA’d then sued them lmao
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That’s because they weren’t doing a "clean room" decomp.
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There’s a bunch of holes in their lawsuit, it’s like they just hired a bunch of lawfags and just threw everything at them without explaining what the modders were even doing.
https://youtu.be/Z9OZ2A-c62g?t=168
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.384429/gov.uscourts.cand.384429.1.0.pdf
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Wasn’t there a whole controversy surrounding modding somewhat early on in GTAV’s PC port life span? like, Take Two was banning a bunch of people who had single player mods and shit? I remember it took the reviews down to Mixed.
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Yes, after the backslash they just implemented a check that restrict you from going online if you have mods installed.
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Why should they care when retards kept buying the game every release and putting money into it. They had no incentive to until someone did what they didn’t.
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>10k
Literal pennies compared to what they’d pay to keep an actual programmer on the game instead of the interns churning out whatever garbage they’re feeding the whales lately-
Actualy no since they outsource stuff to various Rajeshes
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i can confirm that rajesh is better than chang who they outsourced to before
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Changs can at least somewhat copy correctly, Rajesh will copy someone else’s work but still fuck it up.
t. work with too many pajeets
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Not really true, H1B changs are fucking retards too. All the smart ones work for Baidu or whatever other companies they have over there. If you’re a competent programmer in China, you can make a lot of money and have European living standards. India still does not have this yet, so you can get relatively better coders than you would changs for lower pay.
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european living standards are dogshit. that’s laughable.
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That looks like San Francisco. That’s basically what Germany is to Europe.
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It’s paris
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paris is los angeles to europe
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Central Europe, is what I should’ve said.
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public services literally existing at all is better than where typical living conditions where H1Bs are from
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>its paris
even paris doesnt look like that, much less the rest of europe, you filthy american dog-
No that is literally paris
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its literally paris on literally 1 day. guess all of north america is a non-stop looting riot in michigan
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Paris (and the rest of France) looks like a 3rd world trash dump cuz all the garbage workers are on strike.
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>european style plates
lol the cope-
thanks we know its europe from more than just >car plates
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Looks like one of these san francisco streets full of homeless people. That’s what they get for letting diverse folk in.
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Gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Pajeets are absolutely worthless, just a body in a chair. Chinks are slow, apathetic fuck ups but they can at least do SOMETHING.
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That’s why I said "actual programmer"
Someone that would have been capable of fixing this.
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>Literal pennies
That’s 2 months of salary compared to what they pay their software team you absolute fucking retard. Let me guess, you think video game programmers make more money? No. Programmers who want to make money work in banking software or medical software. They do important stuff, where serious bugs lead to dozens of deaths. There is a reason video game devs get paid pennies.-
FAGMAN pays 250k a year
>california cost of living etc etc
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Meanwhile they hunt out and sue anyone making mods to improve 20 year old GTA games.
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That’s Take-garden gnome. Rockstar doesn’t give a shit.
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if you’ve ever been a developer you’d know that out of 1000 different features and behaviors you need to support, you need to pick the ones which are most critical to the bottom line, and sometimes things which matter from a user experience perspective but don’t impact functionality, fundamentally, need to be left alone. it may not have been obvious that the bottleneck was in parsing JSON, and proper investigation into the cause would not have been a resourceful use of developer time. yes it’s absurd but there are plausible explanations for this beside incompetence
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??? its ah, called integration testing you scrub. i bet you use jenkins you basic bitch.
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you mean profiling?
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They need to wipe their QA department and try again.
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Capitalists don’t care about making good things
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>Capitalists
Name one good commies have made good.-
tetris
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Dude’s superiors at the Moscow Institute of Wherever almost killed it because they thought it was a waste of time, and the guy came to America to actually profit off of his game
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>If you are not capitalist you are a communist
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The word capitalism is a meaningless buzzword invented by marx to simply mean "anything that isn’t marxism." So yes, if you aren’t a marxist you are indeed a capitalist. If you want to be against free markets or property ownership then be soecific and say those things, don’t use meaningless buzzwords like capitalist.
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Publix subs, fag.
What do I win?
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Post the full pic, dickshit
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I worked in a Publix deli for about six months, the best part was you could go behind a wall and eat the trial size slice you use to ask someone if it’s the right thickness. Publix is pretty based in every way, they certainly could’ve paid a bit more to the lower tier employees though.
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>at publix the first slice is free
is there a password for this? i get a pub sub once a week
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My old washing machine, shit lasted ages.
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>Name one good commies have made good
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communist china makes good aluminum foil elevators and man-eating escalators.
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Nuclear bombs.
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>Name one good commies have made good.
A few million dead commies.
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Capitalists fear losing their customers, while socialists fear losing their subsidies.
Guess which one is customer-centric.
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>Capitalists fear losing their customers
This is the wrong framing. It’s capitalist fear competition. They do anything to avoid it. We don’t have laws that say a company has to be nice to their customers but we do have laws saying companies HAVE to operate in competition. -
Capitalists fear losing their money, not customers.
Often the two go hand in hand, except where it doesn’t.
Capitalists will quite happily kill their customers(preferably very slowly, while extracting the most wealth) if it increases profit. -
>arguing over the definition of a made up buzzword
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>only 10k for a game that makes hundreds of millions every year
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how the fuck did they think those loadtimes were acceptable in the first place? is there any other online game that takes this fucking long to load into? shits unacceptable
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Meanwhile there’s a functioning netcode implementation for Smash and Nintendo refuses to acknowledge it or fix their own online. The creator is making $20k a month off of patreon kek
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And how much would daddy Nintendo make? The few retards who haven’t bought the game because of netcode is a very small minority anon.
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>bringing up muh diversity hires out of nowhere
Why are poltards so unhinged? Can they not comprehend how insane they sound?-
nobody asked for your opinion
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let them keep hitting themselves until life has flown them by.
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And they never actually bring up 1:1 examples. At best you get cherrypicked Twitter screencaps of people who work in the art department or something.
I guarantee you OP has not actually gone and checked the credits or anything, he just spouted bullshit.-
Yeah yeah, now go back to
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Diversity hires are actually a big thing in the programming industry.
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If you don’t realize GTA:O has been handed off to Pajeets then you genuinely dont know how the industry works.
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You ever consider maybe its you who is insane? Or are you just being disingenuous like most of the boys who cry /poo/ on this site.
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>hire people based on skin color and gender instead of skill
>gets shocked because all your hires doesn’t know shit about the things they are working with
Sure its all /poo/’s fault that people who only knows how to complain on twitter doesn’t know how to make games
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>There is absolutely no excuse for this bug to exist.
its wasnt really a bug, just the way the game works -
If I remember right, it was a small code error that was hard to spot. That’s why it took so long and took someone outside of the company to find and fix. Rockstar wouldn’t spend time finding code fixes when they could just make a new car to sell for gorillions.
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This is Bethesda levels of incompetence.
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Game came out in 2013 and the "fix" essentially just makes it so the game can make use of newer hardware that a standard around the time of release. On top of that majority of R* is working on other projects and their main team for V is has been busy with the "remaster" version. Not defending R*, but I’m sure they already had this fix in the remaster and was going to use it as part of the selling point "wow look how fast the load times are now!" and this guy spoiled it for them.
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see
The diversity hire used an Array instead of a Hash Map. The code performs 1.9 BILLION comparisons when it should have only needed to do 63k.
Using an Array in this case is 30,000 times slower than using a Hash Map. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for this, other than sheer utter incompetence. They teach this shit in 2nd year comp sci.
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STEMites. Coders. Management. Business degrees. College educated. Marketing department. HR department. "Intelligent."
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It wasn’t a bug, the game is just so old that it doesn’t make use of newer hardware properly.
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It is a bug in how their json parser functions or something.
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As if you needed further proof that modern Rockstar are utterly worthless.
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Incompetent programmers parsed a huge list of GTA:O microtransaction items in the most inefficient ways possible. It’s yanderedev-tier.
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iterating the entire list vs hash table. They need more leetcode.
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Translation for retards:
The diversity hire used an Array instead of a Hash Map. The code performs 1.9 BILLION comparisons when it should have only needed to do 63k.
Using an Array in this case is 30,000 times slower than using a Hash Map. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for this, other than sheer utter incompetence. They teach this shit in 2nd year comp sci.
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They should actually use this teaching in comp sci to drive it home the way they teach the McMartin Preschool case in psychology.
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>other than sheer utter incompetence
>63k entries
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This, Rockstar never thought GTA Online would be such a big hit, there were rumors that the heist update was going to be the last content they would add, and that was in 2015.
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how did he get a copy of games code? decompile? sorry not a programmer
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He just used a decompiler.
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Everyone who has GTA installed on their PC has the game code. It’s just written in machine language rather than a human readable programming language like C.
A decompiler takes an executable file like GTA.exe and reads its machine instructions and converts them into C language so humans can read it.
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The diversity hire used an Array instead of a Hash Map. The code performs 1.9 BILLION comparisons when it should have only needed to do 63k.
Using an Array in this case is 30,000 times slower than using a Hash Map. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for this, other than sheer utter incompetence. They teach this shit in 2nd year comp sci.
It’s so sad that they got away with hiring shitty devs and only spent $10k to fix it
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who the hell is steve jobs?
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….ligma balls
>explosion
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>expecting ranjesh to know what a hash map is
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Reminds me of the col.accel fix for GTA4 since by default it unpacks, checks and compares the collision data of every single game asset.
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It was because they were parsing like multiple gigs of json files for no reason or something. They are just brain damaged.
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Nearly the whole of R*’s workforce for the past decade has been unpaid/underpaid interns.
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i keep telling you retards R* are hacks, but you get tricked by pretty graphics and fail to see how shallow and shit their games actually are
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>Are diversity hires really this bad?
Yep.And non diversity hires are just Indians from some diploma mills who only know how to copy paste code from stackoverflow.
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I am glad people are finally knowing about indian diploma mills, when I went to college I dealt with it first hand but when telling people, everyone thought I was just racist or failing my classes.
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>majored in compsci
>took Scala class
>half of class was ethnic/indian
>exam
>half of class copied each others answers
>prof very disappoint
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If Rockstar really paid 10k for that then they must be planning on dragging GTAO on for another decade.
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They are literally releasing GTAO as a standalone game on PS5/SeX. If people won’t let it go, then why stop?
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it wasnt caught before release because it didnt happen before release
it only happened after years of DLC and new items that just kept piling up-
The horribly inefficient check didn’t even need to happen in the first place. This is garbage code.
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Functionality over form and performance when coding first passes, they probably had a reason to brute force it then never ended up removing the sloppy code.
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The way they did was "safer", according to the guy that found the bug. But that’s like having an airbag on a tank or something like that.
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Is being a codemonkey even lower than working at macdonalds today?
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I believe third world code monkeys are paid less than burger flippers in the US
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I never got into GTAO because the loading times were so insanely long and frequent
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>10k
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IIRC the bug is related to their internal content catalog thing, it wasn’t bad in the beginning, but it got worse and worse the more content they added, as in a logarithmic function.
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>would have told them that to load X GB worth of assets into ram shouldn’t take this long.
"Loading" data isn’t literally just copying it from storage into memory, there’s processing/decompression involved and the actual data loading often isn’t sequential either, but yes, the loading time is clearly fucked and they should’ve profiled their crap to figure out what exactly is taking such an ungodly amount of time. Who knows, maybe they knew exactly what was going on but didn’t fix it because consoles would’ve been I/O bottlenecked anyway, thus optimization of the loading procedure wouldn’t have lowered loading time. -
he did this by hacking the game. he should have been arrested and his accounts hardware banned.
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hackers rarely get banned, they spoof accounts, and HWID is spoofable too.
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I only ever played online a few times, I booted it up way after the update and didn’t notice a difference
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First load to online was about a minute and a half, now it’s like 30s.
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Humanity is fucked in every way anon. It only makes sense that it starts with video games.
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>only 10k
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So why didn’t you fix it? Why didn’t you get the money?
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99/100 times the load times would’ve been caused by more unfixable forms of incompetence and you’d have wasted time on finding out
the reason the dude in the op did this was out of a personal pet peeve probably
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I can’t imagine the turbo autism required to decompile GTA5 and then sift through hundreds of thousands of lines of machine generated code (as in it has only symbolic names like uint64__long)
Plus since it’s C++ it’s all virtual function calls so I imagine that in itself is a headache to read when it’s parsed out into C-
it’s called a profiler retard, it tells you which lines are using the most resources
but yes, still turbo autism
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Shut the fuck up you fucking melanoid, don’t you EVER presume to tell me ANYTHING ever again.
You don’t know fucking SHIT about decompilation, I was using SoftICE before you were fucking born you absolute pile of melanoid shit.-
No YOU’RE a melanoid! I wrote a compiler FROM SCRATCH! AND AN OPERATING SYSTEM!!!
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The absolute state of Rockstar.
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This kind of thing would happen on a weekly basis, and for free, if developers open sourced their code. They got lucky enough that someone was able to reverse-engineer a solution here. Usually proprietary code just stays broken.
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