How come JRPGs never have any role playing elements?
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January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm #51916
Anonymous
GuestHow come jrpgs never have any role playing elements? i don’t think i’ve ever played a jrpg that has anything more then the superficial elements like stats and leveling.
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January 7, 2021 at 4:24 pm #51917
Anonymous
Guestwhat is the point or roleplaying in a videogame
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January 7, 2021 at 4:27 pm #51919
Anonymous
Guestits called fun
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January 7, 2021 at 4:31 pm #51921
Anonymous
Guestwhat is fun about pretending to be a character from a game? until games are not extremely realistic simulations, roleplaying will always feel like playing with toys
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January 7, 2021 at 4:34 pm #51922
Anonymous
Guestsome people just like creating a character and give them an arc through the plot and side quests of the game. it’s not for everyone though.
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January 7, 2021 at 4:35 pm #51923
Anonymous
Guestgiving*
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January 7, 2021 at 4:38 pm #51924
Anonymous
Guestwhich is still very limiting in any rpg, your character will always be saying the pre-determined lines someone wrote, all these quests are layed out to you and only specific choices will have any effect, if you want to roleplay better play something like the sims or dwarf fortress in adventure mode
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January 7, 2021 at 5:29 pm #51930
Anonymous
GuestAre you some kind of sperg who gets off by making other people’s accountancy papers?
Truth is the Jgames are rarely based on freedom. They always have to follow a storyline, it’s probably a cultural issue since the last era was filled with many duties but not many rights. As opposed to the land of the free which created tabletop RPGs.
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January 7, 2021 at 5:45 pm #51937
Anonymous
GuestWestern games aren’t much better in that regard. They embrace the illusion of choice and freedom.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:26 pm #51947
Anonymous
Guest>Are you some kind of sperg who gets off by making other people’s accountancy papers?
making builds, optimizing characters and exploring is more fun than playing pretend with a computernot that it’s bad, it just doesn’t work well with videogames, if you want to roleplay just play a tabletop rpg with real people
yes, those are the fun ones
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January 7, 2021 at 5:36 pm #51932
Anonymous
GuestStop being a gently caressing contrarian for three god damn minutes and explain why roleplaying is bad
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January 7, 2021 at 5:37 pm #51933
Sage
GuestLol you utter retard
Personally I think most games classed as RPG are nothing more than classes XP and skills
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January 7, 2021 at 4:26 pm #51918
Anonymous
GuestSMT games have alignments that lead to different endings. Does that count?
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January 7, 2021 at 4:29 pm #51920
Anonymous
Guestnot really. there aren’t any opportunities to build a personality for your character aside from "do they prefer god or lucifer"
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January 7, 2021 at 4:38 pm #51925
Anonymous
GuestYou’re supposed to do what you think that character would do in this situation. But even then there’s not enough of an opportunity to make any particularly game changing choices.
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January 7, 2021 at 4:42 pm #51927
Anonymous
GuestYou’re playing the role of Rean Schwarzer, the ashen chevalier
Not the role of spongebob postin’ yee yee ass haircut manchild -
January 7, 2021 at 5:14 pm #51929
Anonymous
GuestBump
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January 7, 2021 at 5:30 pm #51931
Anonymous
GuestBecause Japs simply copied Wizardry and Ultima.
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January 7, 2021 at 5:39 pm #51934
Anonymous
GuestThe only roleplay you can do in Japanese games is in visual novels. Doing it in actual vidya is too much effort. And even WRPGs are realizing that, especially with Trannypunk. Games are getting more linear with limited roleplay and scope
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January 7, 2021 at 5:41 pm #51935
Anonymous
Guestfinna take a shit rn
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January 7, 2021 at 5:43 pm #51936
Anonymous
Guestgive an update when done
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January 7, 2021 at 5:51 pm #51938
Anonymous
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January 7, 2021 at 6:29 pm #51954
Anonymous
GuestThe combat is only bad when you start using magic and realize that the only worthwhile spells can all be pre-cast to make you invincible
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January 7, 2021 at 5:53 pm #51939
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January 7, 2021 at 5:59 pm #51940
Anonymous
GuestI actually like that about JRPGs though, as someone who doesn’t like JRPGs. My ideal RPG would be light on story and roleplaying, as funny an idea as that is.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:05 pm #51941
Anonymous
GuestJRPGs (and even most western RPGs) are just not RPGs in the original meaning of the term. Many early video games that called themselves RPGs and were inspired by fantasy tabletop like D&D only ported concepts like experience, leveling up, HP, etc, without having any real role playing elements. To some degree that’s just because it’s harder to have real role playing in a video game, especially the ones back in the 90s, but either way the term came to be more associated with stats/levelling than role play, which remains true to this day.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:10 pm #51942
Anonymous
Guestwhat’s a good game if i wanted to start playing JRPG’s?
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January 7, 2021 at 6:14 pm #51943
Anonymous
Guestdark souls
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January 7, 2021 at 6:18 pm #51944
Anonymous
GuestPersona 3, Final Fantasy X, Dragon Quest XI, Chrono Trigger.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:27 pm #51949
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January 7, 2021 at 6:53 pm #51971
Anonymous
Guestbefore i get hit with a smug anime girl, i gotta ask. what do you find good in a rpg?
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January 7, 2021 at 6:59 pm #51974
Anonymous
Guesti don’t find rpgs good at all, nearly all of them have either terrible gameplay or barely any roleplaying
they are a a joke of a genre that might be good if any developer actually invests a lot of time to make the player have an extremely large amount of freedom to do things in a fictional world along with having good gameplay systems
the only thing that came close to that concept was daggerfall (not that it is an amazing game, but at least it tried to do something no other game has since)
that being said, about the only rpg i’ve liked is fallout and that’s more to do with the setting being interesting than the gameplay or roleplaying being good because i recognize the genre as it is right now is laughably limited-
January 7, 2021 at 7:00 pm #51975
Anonymous
Guestplay dwarf fortress in adventure mode if you want freedom
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January 7, 2021 at 7:07 pm #51976
Anonymous
Guestgraphics that simplistic make it hard to be immersed unless one is an autist
i’d rather play stalker than cdda for instance
either you have a more detailed world with less freedom, or one that look better and has less freedom
i’ll just wait until there’s one that can look decent or good and have a large amount of freedom
simply isn’t possible yet
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January 7, 2021 at 6:28 pm #51951
Anonymous
Guestif you want a modern jrpg check out dragon quest xi
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January 7, 2021 at 6:30 pm #51956
Anonymous
Guestshin megami tensei 4
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January 7, 2021 at 6:37 pm #51964
Anonymous
GuestIf you don’t mind emulating, then Golden Sun on GBA is a good entry-level JRPG
Alternatively, Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door is also nice
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January 7, 2021 at 6:25 pm #51946
Anonymous
GuestBecause you don’t know what roleplaying elements are.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:30 pm #51955
Anonymous
GuestBecause the Japanese don’t actually understand what RPG means. They just started copying stuff like wizardry without realizing that those games were just an early approximation of the P&P experience.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:31 pm #51957
Anonymous
Guestand wizardry was never good because it’s just rng everything
makes sense why jrpgs are shit tbh-
January 7, 2021 at 6:33 pm #51959
Anonymous
Guesttabletop rpg is also rng everything
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January 7, 2021 at 6:34 pm #51960
Anonymous
GuestOnly if your GM is shit
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January 7, 2021 at 6:35 pm #51962
Anonymous
GuestTabletop RPGs are shit, just admit it and move on, video games do anything they used to do better, and what they do nowadays is little more than a soap opera for misinformed, uncomfortable nerds and hip trendy faggots.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:40 pm #51966
Anonymous
GuestThat’s clearly bait. Tabletop RPGs are a dynamic, social experience, where you have complete freedom of expression. Videogames will never be able to compare, except if you are socially inept and have no friends.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:44 pm #51968
Anonymous
Guest>Tabletop RPGs are a dynamic, social experience, where you have complete freedom of expression.
And yet that "complete freedom of expression" always makes little more than a soap opera for losers at best, and a shitty sitcom for the mentally deranged at worst. Tabletop RPGs don’t have good gameplay.-
January 7, 2021 at 6:46 pm #51969
Anonymous
Guest>Tabletop RPGs don’t have good gameplay
The are called role playing games because they are primarily about role playing. The "gameplay" in the form of grids, dice, etc. is just e vehicle for that. Of course video games have better-developed gameplay/mechanics, but they still have much worse role playing.-
January 7, 2021 at 6:50 pm #51970
Anonymous
Guesti agree, games will never be as good for roleplaying as tabletop rpgs, but they have a lot more potential for game mechanics, that’s why op complaining that jrpgs don’t let you roleplay is kinda dumb
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January 7, 2021 at 6:56 pm #51972
Anonymous
GuestGameplay is the only thing that matters for any kind of game, video or otherwise. Roleplaying as a concept isn’t fun, it’s gently caressing boring, that’s why only gently caressing weirdos and pseuds enjoy tabletop rpgs. Normal, well adjusted people don’t need to pretend to be other people to socialize, so the argument for tabletop rpgs as a "social experience" flies out the window, people with social lives would much rather play a board game than a tabletop rpg. When the face of your hobby is a bunch of C-List celebrity voice actors sitting around playing out Young and the Restless but with stupid neon-coloured gay goat people and wizards, you know the hobby is dead.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:38 pm #51965
Anonymous
Guestyes but those have a game master to actually make it interesting
these games don’t have onethat’s why i think computer rpgs are more fun, they don’t have a game master to guide you so everything will be fine, they give you a challenge and you need to find out how to overcome it, but maybe that has something to do with me being an autist
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January 7, 2021 at 6:34 pm #51961
Anonymous
Guestyes but those have a game master to actually make it interesting
these games don’t have one
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January 7, 2021 at 6:32 pm #51958
Anonymous
GuestJRPGs are based more on the combat aspects of DnD than the character role playing aspects. WRPGs are the opposite.
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January 7, 2021 at 6:37 pm #51963
Anonymous
Guestis that why they have worst combat than wrpgs?
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January 7, 2021 at 6:58 pm #51973
Anonymous
GuestWhat games have you played? Do not mindlessly complain about something that already exists if you look harder. Why not play an mmo or something if you want to roleplay, dont play jrpgs which are known for having non fluid stories.
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