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Is gatekeeping bad for videogames Ganker?
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No, it’s in fact necessary to keep a community healthy
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look at the state of modern vidya, its fucking dogshit -
This. For any community.
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fpbp
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fpbp, just look what happened to IT industry, the barrier keeps being lowered, it barely has quality control and became saturated as fuck.
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>Get into IT Intern position with only knowledge of how to build a computer
>Graduate college, work full time as an IT basedboy
>Expand my repertoire, but don’t get any certs because I’m a lazy fuck
>Get a job as an IT Engineer elsewhere after they nuked their IT team and the last guy was about to leave
>Figure out the random systems they want me to use
>Gonna get promoted to manager soon
>Get my friend with 0 experience on as an IT basedboy
No, no, low quality control is good-
That’s just opportunistic.
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This
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Too bad some communities are doing a worse job of it as time goes on. Luckily some are more sacred and gatekeeps fags easily.
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I used to think tabletop RPGs and board games were well regulated hobbies.
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Allowing the lowest common denominator a voice is always a mistake
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This forever. If you really want to get into something even just to see if you like it, nobody can stop you. If you skip a hobby just because somebody was mean to you for being a tourist, you don’t deserve that hobby or community.
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You can’t be a gamer if you don’t recognize that ass
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thats luigi right?
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people who complain about gatekeeping are the ones the gate is meant to keep out
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We didn’t do it enough and now look where we are
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no, video games are in a terrible state because we didn’t gatekeep hard enough
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The last panel should be "I would pay a lot of money to be part of that"
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If more people did it when it counted, maybe there’d still be something worth giving a fuck about this awful pastime.
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Those fucks who would plant a fist in your shoulder blades because you were a "geek with computer games"?
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Bullshit.
No amount of elitism can stop greedy garden gnomes from exploiting a community for all that it’s worth by selling its appeal to the normalfag masses.
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Fuck the No True Scotsman fallacy and fuck anyone who commits it.
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I keep hearing the word "gatekeeping" thrown around. But how would one go about doing such a thing?
Just stop certain people from buying a game?-
You tell diverse folk that your favourite game is trash and they shouldn’t play it and then you tell Ganker it’s the best game
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But Ganker is nothing but diverse folk
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Retard, can you read?
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You screech autistically at anyone playing a video game who isn’t a straight white cisgender male until they stop doing it.
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>cisgender
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>straight white cisgender male
imagine being such a sheltered little first world suburban brat that you invent an entire pseudoscience complete with made up words just so you can feel oppressed. Imagine actually believing that being called names on the internet was a real problem.I thought I should be specific.
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You just don’t know when to switch off your cult ingroup speak. You creepy fucks remind me of Scientologists. You’re obsessed with "the message", you see the world as simplistic A vs B, and you’ve convinced yourselves that being a good person is about loudly holding the right opinions, instead of actually doing altruistic things with no expectation of reward or recognition.
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>you’ve convinced yourselves that being a good person is about loudly holding the right opinions, instead of actually doing altruistic things with no expectation of reward or recognition.
Those are wise words, puts things in some sort of context. Thank you, anon.
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>straight white cisgender male
imagine being such a sheltered little first world suburban brat that you invent an entire pseudoscience complete with made up words just so you can feel oppressed. Imagine actually believing that being called names on the internet was a real problem.-
All of those words (even cis, if you’ve done high school chemistry) are real
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And those who use ‘straight white cisgender male’ as a whole probably flunk all classes except PE without cheating.
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Because those keyboard warrior types are known for their athletic prowess…
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You need to actively try to get a failing grade in PE though.
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Cis doesnt exist as a word.
It’s a prefix.
As long as you use it to define something you can prove, then it’s ok.
When you start using it to define something you cant prove (as in cisgender), it becomes a made up word part of a pseudoscience (because the gender theory is a sociological theory that is based on exceptions, not a biological one, nor psychological).
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Sounds pretty nice, because the exact opposite of that is the world we live in.
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Act cold and unwelcoming toward newcomers then wonder why your game is dead.
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This doesn’t work with a new game or very popular game like Counter-strike, but it will work in a game who’s community was never big.
When I bought Natural Selection 2 way back in 2012, I was looking forward to playing the game based upon what I had heard from reviews. I was appalled by the terrible load times and, when I asked other people in the game how I can fix them, they got prissy with me and told me I need to buy a SSD or "suffer the consequences". At the time SSDs were not cheap and I said it is unreasonable to expect a player to buy a specific hard drive just to play a game, and these guys started to mock me and said I was too poor to play their game and I should leave. Well, I did leave and I never played it again. When gatekeepers get what they want, they become no different than the people that bullied them in school.
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Treat anyone who acts like an outsider like shit. Adapt to the community and culture or deal with bullshit the rest of the time you’re playing. Also don’t have greedy garden gnome developers that say things like "we want to appeal to a broader audience," or "the way our community acts is really problematic."
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Don’t be accepting of anyone who doesn’t put in some effort to learn.
Seriously, this is all there is to it, faggots bitching and moaning because people are mean to them when they don’t even want to put in the minimum effort to either learn or adapt to their community instead of everything going their way.
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I never liked FPS games
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No. Classes have "required reading" for a reason.
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Queen of Saints?
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It’s blatantly fucking demonstrated otherwise.
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>"The only people complaining about gatekeeping are the ones that exact gate is suppossed to keep out."
You = ???
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Only bugmen use terms like "gatekeeping". there is nothing wrong with preserving something that is sacred to you. The entire meaning of "gatekeeping" from ancient times was that of defending yourself from invaders.
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>le heckin gatekeeperino big chungus
Exclusivity is not bad for any hobby or interest. Only women give a shit about "gatekeeping" because they are herd animals and can’t bear being on the outside of something mainstream. Things become cool because they have a bar for entry, with games that was basic motor skill and basic computer literacy. As they become more mainstream the bar for entry lowers, then people who don’t understand or respect the medium start creating content for it. This results in a 2021 situation in which every AAA game is mass produced, bland, politically correct rubbish.If women had been "gatekept" out of gaming we’d still have games with Far Cry 2 quality narratives and tone. Instead they are all colorful and wacky, they all have more than 50% female enemies and NPC’s and nearly all the main characters are women. Even in settings where it makes no fucking sense, like medieval Britain or violent criminal street gangs. It will pass just like every other shitty entertainment fashion but god damn it is so fucking annoying and stupid.
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>AAA game is mass produced, bland, politically correct rubbish.
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I dunno man, everyone’s gatekept from VR and it’s fucking cancer (VRChat) or dead (Any other game requiring VR to play that’s not infested with zoom zooms)
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AAA as a child ncept us part of the problem, if games had stayed a niche interest, and the "let’s all pretend to like geeky things" craze in general had never happened both parties would be much happier.
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Every cool awesome thing eventually becomes mainstream, because it’s cool and awesome and as a result lots of people enjoy it. The problem is when the newcomers start creating content for that cool awesome thing, which quickly dilutes it into being mediocre and bland. In the case of games, the newcomers have even pushed out the old giants like Avellone and Hennig by firing them or destroying their reputations, ensuring that everything is mediocre and bland and there can be no going back.
Really all this can be traced back to when the industry started pandering to women. Women aren’t satisfied with having a proportionate share, they make up less than 10% of the numbers for most AAA action games but they expect to be treated like the primary demographic. It drives them crazy when men have fun with each other without women, so they take over using social shaming and victimhood.
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People mistake Gatekeeping as preventing people to play or enjoy a game/series, when in reality is to prevent people who know nothing about the game/series to talk and discuss about the game/series without the barest minimum of knowledge about it
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>no need to keep posting at this point
heh, the irony
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I’ve literally never played counter-strike and even I know what dust is
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Sad part is CS made its way to Xbox years ago.
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I’m black. We need less "diversity" and more cool shit.
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You’re not a melanoid, you’re a nigga.
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Diversity is fine. There’s nothing wrong with it. Games set in non-euro locations with non-euro casts are cool. What’s not fine is when every single non-white character acts like snarky Californian college kids with the exact same sheltered left-wing views. Or when non-white characters or women are shoehorned into settings with no explanation. By all means, have a black person in your Viking game. But in order for it not to be shit, he has to have a plausible backstory as to how he ended up in Europe. Better yet, stop making derivative tired eurocentric games and use a setting we haven’t seen yet, like India during the Mughal invasion, or 1000AD Africa.
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Is Ganker the most reddit board?
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>butthurt that more people of colour are being included in vidya
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Bad bait and attempt at politicizing this.
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Just help people that are willing to learn and ask for help without complaining, that’s the only thing I don’t get, when people genuinely do not want to help newbies who are eager to learn
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This rarely happens, what usually occurs is faggots without an ounce of humility demand to be spoon fed and then don’t listen anyway.
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Anyone who bitches about gatekeeping is the kind of person that needs to be filtered out.
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It was vital, but nobody realized it until it was too late.
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something from CSGO who cares
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Your analysis on this situation is so wrong I’m even questioning your sanity
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#notmyde_dust2
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Imagine if you had an xbox and you were talking to that redditor about xbox games but then you didn’t know what Halo was. That’s why we need gatekeeping.
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>Let not fool ourselves here. You’re just bitter incels butthurt that more people of colour are being included in vidya and you take that as a loss of contol and dominance. You need to go outside and touch grass and realize it’s not all about you.
Some of us are, and you use that as an excuse to become even more extreme in your own views. Most of us are just moderates who are annoyed that every piece of entertainment has to be ran through the political correctness checklist and purged of anything that might offend anyone on Twitter. You people are a cult and you poison every piece of entertainment you touch, just like right-wing Christians did back in the 50’s and 60’s. You signal to each other with these American politically correct buzzwords that no normal person uses like "X of color", "chuds" and all your gender pronoun bullshit. You don’t realize just how similar you are to the conservative white christians you hate so much. -
Fuck, forgot the picture.
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No it’s necessary, but as others have said here, we didn’t do it enough and allowed corporations, "game journalists", and social media/normie ideology to shape the industry. Also remember when handhelds, consoles, and PC all three were distinct platforms with their own great amount of games that took advantage of their platform and experiences? Now that’s a bad thing and the word "exclusive" is also a bad word regardless of platform.
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>that took advantage of their platform and experiences
I don’t remember this happening and console gaming is what led to an influx of morons into the hobby as we see with xbotx, snoys and tendies. -
Cute that you think you could’ve prevented it.
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The only way it could have been prevented is if the industry just died after gen 6 or gen 7. Which, now that I think about it, wouldn’t have been that bad of an outcome.
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>allowed corporations to shape the industry.
It was always going to happen you dumb melanoid.
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Here’s the correct pic
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>post meme
>“why do you hurt me”
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Video games being criticized for being "too video gamey" would have never existed if we succeeded in gatekeeping.
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If you haven’t been playing on PC long enough to remember when Counter-Strike was known as the dogshit game about escorting a VIP through the jungle, made for people too trash to play UT, Quake 3, or Tribes 2, you should still be on the outside of the gate.
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"Gatekeeping." Accurate choice of word, since it was a basic way of repelling malevolent invaders.
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>for videogames
Yes, for fanbase? No -
It is too late to gatekeep. Normies took over vidya a long time ago.
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how many eyelids does that frog have?
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Those are innie nipple transplants.
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I’m so sick of Valve dicksuckers pretending they’re oldfags. Quack is superior.
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>Is gatekeeping bad for videogames Ganker?
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if someone is enough of a pussy to not play a game due to the gatekeeping then they are retarded and i am glad they got filtered
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Gatekeeping isn’t real and if it was, the only people that would need to be gatekept are the people crying about gatekeeping.
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We need to take back the industry! Instead of reminiscing about what we lost and could have had, let’s make it happen! What can we do to turn this industry around and bring it back?
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I’d love to, but there’s no strategy and no collective desire among the masses. Even if you got all of Ganker to join, it would need planning, time, and execution. Imaging if we were playing some war game and each member of Ganker would be their own player who had to take on the rival country. That would be how it would play out in reality. Good idea, hilarious to watch, but ultimately fruitless. Either accept where the industry is now or hope the industry ceases to exist via crash.
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Wait for it to destroy itself while we play retro games.
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>you are not a true X unless you Y
>pre-2007
>"okay, retard">post-2007
>"omg why are you gatekeeping to exclude me? EDIT: thanks for the reddit gold kind stranger" -
So all you need for a Ganker thread now is a reddit screen cap? We should gatekeep this thread. Imagine all the mobile faggots in this thread.
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Gatekeeping has no effect on video games because you can’t gatekeep a developer. Gatekeeping has a mixed effect on communities because although you might be able to keep undesirables out, the gatekeepers start to sound like paranoid schizophrenia patients after a while (see: Ganker).
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You can’t call yourself a PC gamer if you don’t recognize this map
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Thats detroit!
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It’s necessary for every hobby.
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>nooo my mom told me i am anything i say i am! delusion good you bad!
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gatekeeping is only bad for the people the gate is supposed to keep out
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the problem is that gatekeeping is a myth unless youre a game developer or a mod or something. if gatekeeping was real, we wouldn’t have to deal with consolewarfags and politicsfags who don’t even play video games. The gate you’re referring to isn’t physical; it’s purely an emotional state of mind. Literally anyone who wants to can get past it.
The only real gatekeepers are actual video games. Even Dark Souls itself has gatekept faaaar more people than it’s community, without even trying too. And don’t even get me started on arcade games.
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>the problem is that gatekeeping is a myth
It’s just more idiots finding another way to scream for acceptance
"Social media" has so fucking much to answer for. It’s really brought the worst out and made them loud
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>make a statement
>say "everyone who disagrees is a faggot"
>congratulate myself eternally-
spotted the faggot
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Stop disagreeing with me, faggot
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Yes, it is.
First of all, pic rel: csgo is a shit game.
Second: If I despise shooters, and play anything else, there is no way i know this game. So the plebbitor is actually right in this one: OPfaggot is gatekeeping smartfags from discovering how shitty is csgo.
Second: many people rely on a community to play games: asking questions related to bugs, minmaxing, and game mechanics overall makes the most difficult games very community reliant. So having a schizo that spams his sl1 all bosses speedrun as a legit answer to a question like "what’s better between a zweihander and a claymore" is fucking melanoidbehaviour. -
No. Every hobby needs light gatekeeping.
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personally, I say there are multiple different kinds of Gatekeeping, some good, some bad, but a vast majority of ‘Gatekeeping’ these days is more of the bad/annoying kind
like for example I consider the thing in OP’s image to be the ‘bad’ gatekeeping because its just essentially "your irrelevant" and it doesn’t actually accomplish anything other than giving you a false sense of superiority,
good Gatekeeping would be for example, telling someone to play a different game because they keep complaining about getting killed and demanding that the Devs of a game change things to suit their playstyle, because they refuse to learn the meta, or are just jumping on a flavour of the month bandwagon -
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I want you to explain, very clearly, why screenshotting posts from other communities is a bad thing, regardless of actual content.
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how about you explain why you visit the most putrid shithole of internet that is reddit in the first place?
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I asked my question first, nor am I OP. It should be pretty to answer, or are you just angry about other sites to fit in?
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someone explain what gatekeeping is and why do i see it everywhere for the past year
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It’s just a fashionable social media buzzword like "toxic" and "gaslighting". It just means any statement that is designed to filter out newfags from a hobby or community. If you’re not a faggot and you’re actually interested in said hobby/community, you won’t whine about "gatekeeping", you’d just go and try to find out what that thing was, to get a better understanding of your new interest.
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pretty much this. Why bother joining in a community if you barely has interest on it.
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>gatekeeping
It’s when diverse folk tells you you cant play basket because you are a cracker.
You clearly wont listen to them (i mean, who listens to diverse folk), but these diverse folk keep following you and keep telling you that you are a cracker and you shouldnt play basket. Some of them might even start a fight with you. As a matter of fact, because of those diverse folk, you will never enjoy basket as much as the people that are not gatekeeped by diverse folk.
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You sound like a whining faggot who uses the word diverse folk to sound tough and edgy. It isn’t fooling anyone
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>projecting
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You are trying WAY too hard, holy shit. You’re right though. Gatekeeping does jackshit and gatekeepers are basically just shitposters.
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It’s another Twitter nonsense word, perpetuated by exclusionary hypocrites who are desperate to be seen as victims in any way possible.
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It’s just a fashionable social media buzzword like "toxic" and "gaslighting". It just means any statement that is designed to filter out newfags from a hobby or community. If you’re not a faggot and you’re actually interested in said hobby/community, you won’t whine about "gatekeeping", you’d just go and try to find out what that thing was, to get a better understanding of your new interest.
>Gatekeeping as a news process was identified in the literature as early as 1922, though not yet given a formal theoretical name. In his book ‘The Immigrant Press’, Park explains the process, "out of all of the events that happen and are recorded every day by correspondents, reporters, and the news agencies, the editor chooses certain items for publication which he regards as more important or more interesting than others. The remainder he condemns to oblivion and the wastebasket. There is an enormous amount of news ‘killed’ every day
>every new word i learn is invented by twitter users
KysPost a tranny who has been hired by a game company who has the power to impose his/her ideas on others.
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anon you dont have to look at individual people to see how globohomo ideology has infested modern games. If you can’t see that much then it’s already too late for you.
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A buzzword you shouldn’t worry about, just enjoy playing video games instead of listening to what faggots online have to say.
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Lack of gatekeeping is what let globohomo troons into the video game insdustry and is what is directly responsible for the current state of the industry
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The fact that people like you, who unironically see politics in literally everything, are welcome in this video game board is proof that gatekeeping simply doesn’t do anything. Go back.
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Nice try Troon.
we all know who you are. why don’t you go back to your discord channel where you belong?
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>N-no! you g-go back
I was right on the money. Do you even play video games or do you just spend all your time getting mad at Ganker thumbnails?-
dialate
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if Ganker had gatekept gaming back in 2012-2014 we wouldn’t be in this mess we’re in now
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I think Gankerincels made a good effort but the death threats and review bombing just backfired. Kind of like a microcosm of their entire existence.
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Gates can be opened, but the problem is these limp wristed losers don’t want to put in the "effort".
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THE CAKE IS A LIE XDDD
You will only get this epic reference, if you really are a TRUE GAMER! ^^
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"Gatekeeping" is a problem that only exists because of faggots that need to play the victim in every aspect of their life.
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