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October 14, 2021 at 4:08 am #401491
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October 14, 2021 at 4:10 am #401492
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GuestNo fuck you snake garden gnome
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October 14, 2021 at 4:11 am #401493
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October 14, 2021 at 4:36 am #401508
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Guest>Gwyn was great, go kill his friends
>Gwyn was bad, go kill his friends
For fuck’s sake, I just want to grill-
October 14, 2021 at 4:49 am #401514
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October 14, 2021 at 4:38 am #401510
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October 14, 2021 at 4:39 am #401511
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GuestReasonable counterargument
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October 14, 2021 at 4:57 am #401518
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October 14, 2021 at 5:04 am #401520
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October 14, 2021 at 4:18 am #401494
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GuestI’m just gonna chill with Seath and try to discover the secret to immortality
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October 14, 2021 at 4:20 am #401495
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GuestDid Logan go hollow because Seath’s arcane knowledge drove him mad or because he was Big Dumb and couldn’t understand it at all?
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October 14, 2021 at 4:22 am #401497
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GuestI always thought of it as logan going hollow because once he learned seath’s knowledge, he had nothing else to live for
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October 14, 2021 at 4:26 am #401499
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GuestIt’s not really clear that he does "go insane". He’s perfectly sane up until you buy all his shit AND kill Seath. He also clearly isn’t hollowed, just hostile.
I like the interpretation that he didn’t go insane, he just was pissed that you killed Seath who was his best chance at figuring out / fixing the Undead Curse. So he attacks you in Seath’s room when he realizes Seath is dead.
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October 14, 2021 at 4:27 am #401500
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October 14, 2021 at 4:29 am #401502
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Guestis it confirmed that he’s not undead?
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October 14, 2021 at 4:31 am #401503
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Guestis it confirmed that he’s not undead?
does he look hollow when he goes crazy?Logan is undead, he doesn’t go Hollow, he just seems to not know who you are after you purchase all hit shit and kill Seath, and then attacks you in Seath’s room. Like I said, it makes more sense that he’s sane and just hates you for effectively shutting down his research by killing Seath.
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October 14, 2021 at 4:57 am #401517
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GuestI like the interpretation that he didn’t go insane, he just was pissed that you killed Seath who was his best chance at figuring out / fixing the Undead Curse. So he attacks you in Seath’s room when he realizes Seath is dead.
Logan went insane either due to Seath’s research or because the crystals are some sort of radioactive and drive people crazy.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:53 am #401567
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GuestHe didn’t turn Hollow, so he just went mad.
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October 14, 2021 at 4:22 am #401496
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Guestif you invade you should link the fire
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October 14, 2021 at 4:26 am #401498
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Guestwhat does that mean retard
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October 14, 2021 at 4:27 am #401501
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GuestNo
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October 14, 2021 at 4:32 am #401504
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October 14, 2021 at 4:34 am #401506
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October 14, 2021 at 4:37 am #401509
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GuestIt really is. The very idea that Yorshka actually is Gwyn’s secret dragon lovechild or that Priscilla is somehow Gwyndolin’s daughter is fucking retarded.
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October 14, 2021 at 4:41 am #401512
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Guest>Gwyn’s secret dragon lovechild
That’s really fucking stupid. I mean I could see maybe Nameless King’s daughter since he’s a dragon fag, but not Gwyn’s.
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October 14, 2021 at 4:36 am #401507
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October 14, 2021 at 4:32 am #401505
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Guest>DS4 happens
>Age of Dark/Man is ending and something new will be born
How would it go?-
October 14, 2021 at 4:56 am #401516
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GuestWasn’t there DS3 DLC that showed the end of the world? Where the fire is finally dead and time and space gets so fucked that all of the civilizations that had ever existed throughout the cycles are crushed together into a decaying mass?
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October 14, 2021 at 5:02 am #401519
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Guestthe DaS opening cinematic, the hollows would find the souls of lords and the gods would be reborn once again
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October 14, 2021 at 4:43 am #401513
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Guestthe end of fire ending to DaS3 is just too kino to not do every time
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October 14, 2021 at 4:56 am #401515
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October 14, 2021 at 5:05 am #401521
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GuestStill pisses me off that the series ended with a namedrop
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October 14, 2021 at 5:07 am #401522
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October 14, 2021 at 5:08 am #401523
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GuestIf humans were always of the dark soul then what was the flame that made them gods
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October 14, 2021 at 5:20 am #401536
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GuestLight
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October 14, 2021 at 5:08 am #401525
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GuestNot him, but I just thought it was fucking lame. All that build up for that piece of shit nonending?
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October 14, 2021 at 5:10 am #401526
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October 14, 2021 at 5:17 am #401534
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GuestYou think it’s lame because you’re raised on shitty cape films where everything is bombastic and overly explained without a hint of subtlety.
You’re fighting just another traveler like yourself at the ass end of time and space, this guy’s so obsessed with one singular goal that probably wasn’t even a big deal at first but consumed his entire being. He’s literally seeking "humanity" and turned into a tunnel-visioned beast. During his fight with you, he realizes he had the dark soul/humanity within him.>BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE TRULY WERE THE DARK SOULS III: THE RINGED CITY
I do not recall a Ganker meme for that, but I dunno dude, you tell me why it doesn’t sound silly, because hearing a title drop generally doesn’t fit too well for a conclusion of a series>I do not recall a Ganker meme for that,
you literally just wrote it:
>WE TRULY WERE THE DARK SOULS III: THE RINGED CITY
Are you high?
>because hearing a title drop generally doesn’t fit too well for a conclusion of a series
The name of the series is dark souls. It’s a tangible thing that turned hollows into human beings. Linking the fire is burning humanity to prolong the age of fire.
If you’re upset at a "title drop" you may as well be upset that the dark soul exists in universe.-
October 14, 2021 at 5:24 am #401539
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GuestSo title drops are a Ganker meme? Or is it just your definition?
>The name of the series is dark souls. It’s a tangible thing that turned hollows into human beings. Linking the fire is burning humanity to prolong the age of fire.
Most knows that, and a lot of games don’t title drop because it makes the game less serious. Go anywhere else and you’ll hear someone saying that the series should’ve ended without a title drop. It makes it less climatic because some old man with a Santa hat spilled the title.-
October 14, 2021 at 5:27 am #401540
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Guest>So title drops are a Ganker meme? Or is it just your definition?
Are you being retarded on purpose?
> and a lot of games don’t title drop because it makes the game less serious.
It doesn’t unless you’re a childish retard who thinks in memes and anything that reminds them of a stupid meme turns their brain off. Those people aren’t worth thinking about.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:28 am #401594
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Guest>You think it’s lame because you’re raised on shitty cape films where everything is bombastic and overly explained without a hint of subtlety.
You’re a pretentious twat-
October 14, 2021 at 6:31 am #401598
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GuestYeah yeah, everything not entirely shallow is pretentious.
Maybe Miyazaki knows how the garden gnomes work and is expressing his frustration at not being able to kill them by making the serpents be the same way, skulking in the dark and manipulating from the shadows, unable to be found?
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October 14, 2021 at 6:34 am #401599
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Guestsoon
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October 14, 2021 at 5:10 am #401529
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October 14, 2021 at 6:16 am #401585
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Guest>Title drops
>Ganker meme
Is this what being a zoomer is like?-
October 14, 2021 at 6:17 am #401587
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GuestNever been to those threads of people making up ridiculous Title drops like "I GUESS THIS REALLY WAS THE TALES OF THE ARISE"? Or are you just pretending to be new?
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October 14, 2021 at 5:08 am #401524
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October 14, 2021 at 5:10 am #401527
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Guest>Hand it over. That thing, your DARK SOULS III™ Deluxe Edition
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October 14, 2021 at 5:10 am #401528
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October 14, 2021 at 5:44 am #401558
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October 14, 2021 at 5:14 am #401530
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Guest>You did it, you finally became the Dark Soul
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October 14, 2021 at 5:14 am #401531
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GuestThat the true Dark Soul was the friends we made along the way
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October 14, 2021 at 5:15 am #401532
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Guest>Maybe the real Dark Souls™ were the friends we made along the way…
Really Fromsoft?
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October 14, 2021 at 5:16 am #401533
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October 14, 2021 at 5:19 am #401535
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Guest>Getting mad that dark souls 3 is a direct sequel and uses locations and characters from a past game.
>Getting mad that the game addresses the title of the game at all instead of the title being completely unrelated nonsense.
I’m glad this series is successful but on the flip side it attracts the most tryhard retards desperately looking for flimsy shit to bitch about so they can feel like a critic. -
October 14, 2021 at 5:21 am #401537
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October 14, 2021 at 5:22 am #401538
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GuestProbably lab experiments to create copies of Sinh. The experiments were not providing the intended results.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:31 am #401544
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GuestYeah that’s the general consensus for the imperfect but they share a lot of similarities to them that I have been wondering if "Primordial Serpent/Soulfeeder" are the result of a similar experiment.
What are they? Baby primordial serpents?
There is way more DS2 in DS3 than you realize
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October 14, 2021 at 5:36 am #401549
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Guest>There is way more DS2 in DS3 than you realize
On that note I think all three games have "humanity" in them in some fashion.
Dark souls 1 obviously. Hollows become human with humanity.
Dark souls 2 I think want = humanity. To be human is to desire. To be without desire is to be empty, or hollow.
Dark souls 3 just comes out and calls it the dark soul.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:38 am #401552
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GuestSub-80 iq brainlets are too retarded to realize that DS2 is as direct a sequel as direct sequels can be. The whole POINT of the game is that you’re in some random cycle, stuck in the cycle, and nothing can change it. You can see how, since the last time the fire was linked, the lord souls were found, kingdoms were raised, wars were fought, powerful people experimented with immortality/breaking the cycle, and now you’re here, at the end of the age, to start a new age. Whether you actually link the flame or not is irrelevant, another undead inevitably will when you fail to, and the cycle will repeat again. You are stuck in Samsara. There is no escape.
FROM listened to the whining sub80iq retards who couldn’t understand DS2s story so they made some completely incoherent "uhhh…the endless cycles are permanently ending, uhhh, but also you can light the flame again…uhh but you can also let it die…but uh then the flames will come back later anyway…or uh…yea or you can take control of the flame ??????? i dunno man buy my dumb shit"
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October 14, 2021 at 5:40 am #401554
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Guest>The whole POINT of the game is that you’re in some random cycle, stuck in the cycle, and nothing can change it.
There was that one anon who likened all of dark souls 2 to an underworld/mirror world. Basically after the opening cinematic you arrive in a REFLECTION of the dark souls universe. It’s a dreamy mishmash of locations that reflect places that once were.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:43 am #401556
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GuestThat was a pretty stupid post you made toward the end there, anon. Dark Souls 3 has a very solid and coherent theme and narrative. Think of it like insomnia. The world needs rest, and like a person who refuses to turn off the lights and recover in the dark, the world gets weaker and it starts hallucinating, time is harder to keep track of and there are lapses in memory. The world has been without balance for far too long.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:48 am #401561
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GuestThe "theme" is fine, the actual story makes no damn sense in Dark Souls lore.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:52 am #401565
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Guest>the actual story makes no damn sense in Dark Souls lore.
It’s really fucking vague as shit but I’d argue dark souls 2 is way worse on that front.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:28 am #401541
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Guest>Ds2
Non Canon and zero lore-
October 14, 2021 at 6:35 am #401600
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Guest>Non Canon
False. Earthen Peak returns in last DS3 DLC.>zero lore
Visit Sinner’s Rise
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October 14, 2021 at 5:31 am #401543
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Guest>Core chunk of the game involves experiments at recreating dragons
>Find imperfect dragon forms in some quarantined cave areaWhAt ArE tHeY
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October 14, 2021 at 5:35 am #401548
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GuestI know how they were made. I am trying to learn more about the Primordial Serpents origin. You are pointing the obvious, the whole thing with darks souls or From games is that things always have an obvious meaning and multiple layers under it.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:37 am #401551
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October 14, 2021 at 5:30 am #401542
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October 14, 2021 at 5:32 am #401545
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GuestLocusts are Abyss beings pretending to be neutral Dark beings, and as such can’t help but botch hiding their Aldritch-like nature.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:35 am #401547
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GuestThere’s a difference between the dark and the abyss?
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October 14, 2021 at 5:36 am #401550
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GuestDark is the neutral form, Abyss is what happens when you basically abuse it and piss it off, like what happened to Manus. It’s like how the Witch of Izalith messed with her Lord Soul and unintentionally created the Chaos Flame.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:35 am #401546
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October 14, 2021 at 5:42 am #401555
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October 14, 2021 at 5:39 am #401553
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October 14, 2021 at 5:45 am #401559
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GuestAre…are you serious? The Lost Sinner is the reincarnation of the Witch of Izalith, and is canonically female. Her sin was trying to relight the First Flame, just like the Witch of Izalith.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:48 am #401563
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Guestyea i know but whats with the beard and the male proportions
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October 14, 2021 at 5:50 am #401564
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Guestyea i know but whats with the beard and the male proportions
the little bug is the witch, the giant person is a dude
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October 14, 2021 at 5:54 am #401568
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October 14, 2021 at 5:59 am #401574
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GuestThe bug ain’t the witch
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October 14, 2021 at 6:06 am #401578
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Guesti dunno man its hard to know
"Soul of the Lost Sinner,
prisoner of Sinner’s Rise.
The Lost Sinner eternally punishes herself
for the sins of her past." is the soul description
"The true nature of this sword is unknown, even to the Lost Sinner herself." and the sword one
fucking wish someone got the jap version translated because the motherfucker we fight looks like a nigga
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October 14, 2021 at 5:43 am #401557
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GuestWhy were there statues of the Snake garden gnomes in Ds3?
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October 14, 2021 at 5:48 am #401562
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October 14, 2021 at 5:53 am #401566
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GuestThat’s what I feel like too
I remember when I heard the Ringed city was coming out I thought the eternal Snake garden gnome was finally gonna be a boss fight -
October 14, 2021 at 5:54 am #401569
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GuestI’ll take Gael over "muahahaha it is I, the true evil mastermind behind it all, now I will monologue to you about it!" any fucking day. Having the serpents be the final bosses would make no fucking sense. They’re manipulators trying to accomplish something. All I’m bitter about is not knowing what exactly they were trying to accomplish, given the nature of the world.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:57 am #401572
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GuestWhy the fuck would he monologue some random ash that fell into his hole. They’ve never met you. It should have just been Kaathe and Frampt poking out, nonhostile, and you can choose to buy into their shit and walk away or fuck them up for a final glorious optional battle
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October 14, 2021 at 5:58 am #401573
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GuestWhy would they fight you when they could just do the same thing as before and run away to manipulate people from the shadows into doing it for them? That’s literally what they’ve been doing the whole time. Hell, we even call them "snake garden gnomes". They don’t fight their own battles.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:06 am #401577
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GuestExcept you’d be finding them at the end of the world, where everything is collapsing around them. How when you get to Filianore’s church, Kaathe’s head is poking out blocking you from going up to the egg, and talking to him just prompts him to keep spitting shit to convince you to go away.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:10 am #401580
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GuestOkay so what would their purpose be in that? If it’s the end of the world they’ve gotten what they want, no?
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October 14, 2021 at 6:13 am #401581
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GuestBecause the rest of the world is in shambles, and the ringed city is still the last bastion for any sort of reasonable existence, so he doesnt want you to destroy it? It would have been one hell of an "Oh shit" moment when you touch the egg after willingly choosing to kill them and the world just crumbles to ash.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:16 am #401586
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GuestThe serpents represent Nidhogg gnawing at the roots of Yggdrasil. The entire world is supported in the "world tree" so these serpents likely mean to end it.
As of dark souls 3 it’s apparent both of their methods eventually lead to the "end". There’s nothing left for them to do but see it out.-
October 14, 2021 at 6:19 am #401588
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Guest>There’s nothing left for them to do but see it out.
Okay but is your "purpose" not to stop that? I find it hard to believe if the Ash came swinging at them they wouldn’t put up a fight, even just for the shits and giggles. -
October 14, 2021 at 6:23 am #401590
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Guest>Okay but is your "purpose" not to stop that?
Is it? No matter what you do at the first flame, an end will come. Maybe not immediately (linking) but it will eventually, their plans are in motion and will arrive at the same place. The end is inevitable and the message is to not fear the coming end. -
October 14, 2021 at 6:29 am #401596
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GuestMan you’re thinking way too hard about this. I just want to kill the yiddserpents. The entire fanbase knows this shit is all their fault, it’s not some big secret. Does Miyazaki just think we’re too retarded to get it or was his last movie just a desperate attempt to make it more ambiguous
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October 14, 2021 at 6:30 am #401597
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Guestmove*
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October 14, 2021 at 5:59 am #401575
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GuestGael was a kino end to the series. Two broken people just duking it out during the end of the world.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:04 am #401576
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GuestAgreed. Also it’s thematically appropriate.
Dark souls 1 ended with a hollowed Gwyn fight, a broken shell of the man he once was where you realize Gods were once hollows too, there’s no difference between Gods and Humans.
Dark souls 2 ended with Aldia, much the same he’s an abomination of a former human who has seemingly given up or sees no solution.
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October 14, 2021 at 5:47 am #401560
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October 14, 2021 at 5:55 am #401570
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Guest>Need to constantly kill people to keep the world, particularly fire, going
>Occasionally even a king has to burn
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October 14, 2021 at 5:56 am #401571
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GuestDark Souls is basically "what if the world works based on metaphors and all those legends and folklore about how the world works is ACTUALLY how it works?"
All it’s missing is a guy in a chariot literally pulling the sun into the sky.
There’s probably no such thing as space in the Souls universe.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:06 am #401579
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October 14, 2021 at 6:13 am #401582
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GuestI hope every single person who thinks about the series this way suffers a horrible painful death.
This is edgy 14 year old "MUH NIHILISM IS SO KEWL". No you fucking retards, nihilism isn’t cool, stories having no meaning or purpose isn’t cool or interesting. The problem with DS3 is the writers couldn’t figure out what the fuck they wanted to do with the story, so they did everything, made it incoherent as fuck, and hoped that’d work well enough for the fans. They literally made a huge deal about this being the very last cycle, except you can just link the flame again and start a new cycle. You can let the flame die, but the firekeeper tells you eventually the flames will come back anyway. You can take the flame inside yourself, which conveniently is left completely unexplained. And finally, you can give the dark soul to some painter who’ll make another pocket world.
What the fuck is this shit
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October 14, 2021 at 6:15 am #401583
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Guest>TLDR
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October 14, 2021 at 6:15 am #401584
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GuestDark Souls 3 is about how everyone prior messed up so hard that the final generation is screwed, and if you don’t think the Dark in a neutral state could ever be healthy, then the universe is fucked. Heck, what the Firekeeper sees as embers might just be the Painter’s painting getting burned up.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:20 am #401589
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Guest>. They literally made a huge deal about this being the very last cycle, except you can just link the flame again and start a new cycle.
Yeah because that worked so well for the guy in the last cycle right?
Did you completely miss the fact every single cycle is weaker and shorter than the last, and the world is literally curling up in itself desperate for more kindling?
>You can let the flame die, but the firekeeper tells you eventually the flames will come back anyway
Exactly. The age of dark isn’t the end, the dark is nothing to fear. When you go to sleep, you will wake up again. The light will return.
>What the fuck is this shit
Way over your head, apparently.-
October 14, 2021 at 6:23 am #401591
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GuestHoly shit it’s like talking to a literal special ed kid, fuck off you retard.
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October 14, 2021 at 6:24 am #401592
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GuestThis coming from the guy who totally missed each cycle of fire getting weaker.
Just like how fire was discovered in the opening cinematic to dark souls 1, flame won’t be snuffed out forever. This much is really, really fucking obvious. -
October 14, 2021 at 6:25 am #401593
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October 14, 2021 at 6:29 am #401595
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